The cancer killing /pcbg/ edition

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500f
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Prism, Premium LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid purchases for new builds but If you have an ASRock mobo and Zen 5 CPU update it to the latest BIOS ASAP which may or may not solve the melting issue.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Case with good stock PWM fans

>Sick of DLSS cunt and his spam?
4chanX Filters: https://pastebin.com/DYQCcJwH

Previous: >>105665516

>The cancer killing /pcbg/ edition
Have some self-awareness, this is the OP.
This is how he's coping with his 9070XT purchase (was only $90 cheaper than a 5070Ti).

>>105672464 (OP)
Realistically how much time for an OLED burn in to be really noticable and bothersome when I am 90% of time gaming and content consuming?

Did anyone actually make a proper test scenario for burn in?

>>105672503
It depends on how you use it.
Playing at higher brightness levels, leaving the OS taskbar on, playing games with a lot of static UI like MMOs, or playing games with a lot of white UI elements will accelerate burn-in.
Some games allow you to adjust the UI colors to be more OLED-friendly, while others will require mods.

>>105672501
>>The cancer killing /pcbg/ edition
>Have some self-awareness
Yep I have total mental superiority over you and live rent free in your head LMAO. I knew exactly what this post you just made was going to say when I wrote that in the OP. I just baited you into typing out exactly what I wanted that's how predictable of a retard you. I own you bitch.

>>105672570
You didn't bait anyone, your behavior is very predictable.
You post brand war spam in the earlier thread to post this new one ASAP.
All you own is a 9070XT, and it means so much to you.

9070 update: the coil whine went away ~week after purchase like I thought.

I feel like people are too hasty with monitor returns too, they need to settle.

>>105672464 (OP)
funfact: you can still find those nvidia shill accounts on old boomer forums like guru3d.

>>105672663
A cheatcode to help prevent whine is use anti sag brace properly. Just putting the holder in a random spot is not enough. Place it under the offending coil and boom it goes away.

Idk what goes on here, but here’s my first new build in 10 years. Feel like it’s not unique or crazy in any way, but i reached further than I did in my 2015 build and it’s only exceeded my expectations.

>> b650 board
>> 7800x3d
>> 5070 ti
>> 6000mhz ddr5 etc etc etc 850w gold basic B fans and AIO

>>105672995
Enjoy your new PC.

>>105672995
i like the case orientation, but it would make more sense to move rad to the top

>>105672995
bretty good choices anon, we have a similar level of performance, and it looks gude. 360mm rad wouldve been preem but if it werks it werks

>>105672995
No clue either, but your build looks really chill and I hope you enjoy your New PC.

Holy shit, AMD loves Brazil, they just released a 5500X3D CPU just for Brazil, get fucked, Americans!

https://youtu.be/azD9XnFRw_c?si=-gTttbK-VS8VKPiy

>>105672995
Very nice job anon. Those are some great specs. I like the fan arrangement and figure sitting on the GPU. Hope you'll enjoy it for many years!

>>105672995
holy heckin rgbs

nice build

>>105670899
okay i just tested it again and now the crashes are gone, they must've fixed it with that update last week

kek amdtroon made another thread on /v/ after being BTFO yesterday
guess he got lonely because nobody posts in this shit general anymore

>>105673068
I am also about 10 years removed from being active on this board and somehow managed to have the image rotate on upload. It's the usual top rad config.

>>105673078
I think the 360 rad would look much better aesthetically, but I'm not CPU bottlenecked and my peak temps under benchmark are still only like 60c with a mild undervolt/OC. I had to draw the line somewhere. When I started the build I intended to use a good air cooler so even just this was what I was referring to as "reaching."

Thanks lads, i am really happy to have finally upgraded. My old rig is still going strong and my oldest and I can easily play OW2 or any of the games he would like. Another neat little side effect is the old lady set up an is using her easel now in the same area. We have a little theater/stereo setup in 1/3 of the basement, her painting and bookshelf in the middle 3rd and pic related in the last bit.

>assemble PC
>let them build it for me
>only have to put in graphics card
>also add more fans myself
>spend multiple hours reading / watching on what to do and setting it up
>dead beat and glad I won't have to do it again in the foreseeable future
Holy shit I'm so glad I didn't listen to you guys with building it myself. I thought about it, thought that it might be a fun experience. Fuck no, picking the parts and reading about everything is cool but not building it.

>>105673849
Who is assembling/building it though? Mainly asking out of curiosity

>>105672464 (OP)
ASUS ROG Strix XG27AQMR for 485€.

Good deal or no?

I don't want OLED because I work from home with static elements.

>>105673997
What do you want from your monitor?

>>105673849
imagine being retarded

>>105673992
The site I ordered my PC from. You can configure it like you want, I got all parts I wanted and then they put them together. I heard they do like 10k PCs a month.
>>105674075
Don't care, I am happy with my system and am just as happy knowing that it was worth it to let others do it for me.

>>105674062
at least 240hz for shooters, best possible NON-OLED colours and contrast and 1440p resolution at 27" size.

I returned MSI G274QPX a few days back because it had horrible vignetting.

>thermal pads on the poweer connector
who is going to be the first manufacturer that straight up puts a fan there?

>>105673897
reposting here since there are 2 generals and idk which is the 'right' one

>>105672464 (OP)
Hey guys? I haven't browsed this general in a little bit, wheres the Nvidia guy? how come the amd guy took over?

>>105674114
When I looked for a monitor I found the ROG Strix XG27UCG which I didn't end up buying, since it was 100€ more for me than the UCS which is basically the same thing but with one missing distinctive feature. It is a 4k 160 hz monitor which has a dual mode where you can switch to 1080p 320 hz. It's about the same price as your monitor but if you want 1440p it may be off the table

>>105673450
I like how he denied making the thread when I called him out on it when it's obviously the same shill posts and charts he posts every day. What an embarrassing clown, the mods only keep him around because he's the thread lolcow.

i'm glad we are acknowledging the amd retard ruining this general (finally)

>>>/v/713354284
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH THIS RETARD HAS A HUMILIATION FETISH

>>105674185
Interesting but 1080p on 27" just looks bad imo...

>>105674229
Notice how he's attaching images of the card models he couldn't afford.
The card in a different thread is a Sapphire Nitro+

>800w power draw
>5 fps increase over stock 575w
wow...

>>105674266
It's a form of protection to discourage people from volt-modding the card.
RTX 4090's power draw also behaves strangely past 1.1V (nearly 50W increase going from 1100 to 1125mV)

>get a stuck pixel in the middle on my new asus monitor
>annoying, but easy enough to ignore
>get a cluster of dead pixels a few days later
>they start moving about

Please don't burn my house down
>Please don't burn my house down
Please don't burn my house down
>Please don't burn my house down

>>105674363
Return while you can.
https://lcdtech.info/en/tests/dead.pixel.htm

>>105673849
lol it took my sister 2hrs to put her first one together while she was on the phone asking me what goes where while I told her to just read the manual
swore to me never again and that she'd just pay me to do it

>tell lian li about the stripped screw in motherboard tray debacle
>let them know i'd have to destroy the tray to get my mobo out
>they send over another tray freshly off the chinese assembly line a month later
after sales support is the most important thing, fellas. if this were any other case manufacturer they'd tell me to kick sand

Going to build a desktop PC for my mom.
Requirements:
-She can have 50+ tabs of social media stuff and Youtube videos plus photo edit and messaging apps running at the same time and never see any slowdown at all
-2TB+ of storage with backup (I'm thinking a 2TB SSD and another one with mirror volume setup for backup)
-Small profile, quiet, power efficient
-Easily transfer stuff from her Android OR Apple devices
The gray area for me is whether to go Intel or AMD for the CPU/mobo and what the best one for this use case is. Need rec on which manufacturer, series, and generation to choose. Help me out?
Also leaning toward Win10/11 Education for the OS but open to Linux distro if it offered her a good experience.

>>105674447
this was completely free btw, they covered the cost of shipping too.

>>105674454
I wonder how that pic would fare in a court

>>105674454
Hold on, why wouldn't that work?

>>105674454
If you don't have a strict budget I'd actually be inclined to recommend current gen Intel. Loads of cores, good "idle" efficiency, and a decent IGP (with QuickSync if she does video editing). AMD 7/9000 would also work but loses out slightly in low load efficiency and core count at the low end.
If, OTOH, you need to keep it under eg. $500 you'd have to drop it back to Intel 12th gen or an AM4 APU. Still probably more than enough.

>>105674454
just buy 600 bucks mac mini with thunderbolt dock and put whatever m2 ssd inside the dock. macos is fully retard-proof and maintenance-free. with SIP enabled - it is literally impossible to break the system. and she will never disable SIP on her own.

>>105674229
Mass reporting his shitposts might force the fat mods to do their job for once but I don't really care. I'm too old for this shit.

>UDNA to "CRUSH" RDNA4 in RT and AI
AMJeet nicotranny bout to rope himself because he overpaid MSRP for a card that didn't provide a generational leap over last generation and wastes months of his life try to convince us that being half a 4090 performance is impressive.

>>105674107
In hindsight, I should have clarified what I meant. What site did you order your PC from?

>>105674461
I think the sticker itself wouldn't fare well unless the EULA was provided before purchase. Can't enforce a contract that one party cannot read.

>>105673849
imo in modern PCs 99% of the male/female ends have some kind of marking or shape designed to be foolproof as in you cant ram it in the wrong hole if you take your time, which you should be doing
past that the only thing i find not intuitive is
>naked case and airflow design
which is imo impingent on where you put your PC
>having an ultra tiny case
in which case fuck you if you have sausage fingers
other than that the only real issue im having right now is
>you cant trust your old parts if migrating from an old build
im still figuring out if my RAM from an old build is an issue but theres nothing about that that could have been solved by having someone slap the parts in for me

>>>/v/713368467
AMD reddit troon made another thread and /v/ just points and laughs at him for getting 80fps DLSS balanced with frame gen on his hacked up optiscaler setup,. I thought this faggot hated DLSS? Why is he using it?

>>105674598
wtf bros I just got a 5070 ti

>buy a duel ram stick pack
>the two sticks aren't identical, the pcb material is different
how does this happen?

>>105674795
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/micro-center-uncovers-zotac-rtx-5090-scam/ar-AA1FX0jL
something along the lines of this im assuming

>The amd troon doesn't even have to post anymore besides making the OP because retards will derail the thread for him schizo posting about him instead of just ignoring the OP
Autistic fucks you're literally just feeding the troll. You're just degrading thread quality even further. If only the mod would ban all of you and we could have normal threads again.

>>105674795
>the two sticks aren't identical
What do you mean by this? Do they have different heat spreaders? The PCB difference doesn't matter.
It's fine as long as the pair is working according to advertised specs, that's what the manufacturers care about when packing these kits.

>>105674898
>doesn't even have to post anymore
Because he can't handle being fact-checked by others in /pcbg/,
His absence is a win.
Regarding the OP, he can continue to make new ones for us like the bitch he is.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/356354432929?
Is this going to arrive broken, is it loud as fuck? what's the deal if not those cases?

>>105675014
what do you think retard

>>105672543
NTA This means constantly worrying about how I use my display, what it may show and what to avoid, playing with a bad feel whenever static bright elements show. Sounds like a lot of fun!

>>105675014
You can replace the fans on it for about 12 bucks if needed. I'd buy it and if it's shit or broken, return it to seller since it's the official arctic store.

>>10567491
it's not fine
i have ocd
why the fuck would you make a ram stick from two different machines and then pack them together?

>>105672995
Sorry, I can't even see your build, too many dazzling lights. Got a pic in daylight with LRGB off?

>>105675046
>the chemo that is curing /g/
kek

>>105675027
I know it's open box, and I even expect the box to be super fucked up, but Arctic themselves have been shown to be trustworthy, this is their official ebay store and it has a 6 year warranty, so I'll assume it's working, even taking all that into account it sounds too good to be true.

>>105674898
He's running 2 threads on /v/ rn and getting btfo
Imagine being btfo by vtards

>>105675046
Memory kit manufacturers don't make the physical PCBs, it's being sourced from a separate board manufacturer.
Your memory modules just got two different PCB batches. What matters is whether they run stably (this is tested before final packaging).

>>105675128
It's the official Arctic US eBay account.
You get the same 6-year warranty so I wouldn't mind trying it out.

are "gaming" laptop prices going to drop towards the end of the year?

>>105675140
>rn
jit

>>105675037
OLED monitors are meant for professionals (company expense) or for PC gamers who are willing to replace them every 4~5 years or so.
Monitors are getting better pretty fast atm, there's going to be a noticeably better high-end monitor every 2~3 years.

>>105675255
professionals all use IPS grade monitors

>>105675255
>number goes up
>number goes upper
>number keeps going up
>you don't even need it
>tech is still garbage covered in bandaids
>microled is a pipe dream

Have a regular 3070 card for 1440p gaming and realized I need to upgrade. What card is best for my needs? The RX 9070 XT looks like it'd be a great fit.

I checked the psu list linked in the OP but two of the "best" options in the 850w category are apparently infamous for exploding? Dark Power 13 and Cooler Master X Silent Edge respectively. So how the fuck am I actually supposed to choose a good psu?

>>105675277
>all use
No they don't. Else monitor manufacturers wouldn't waste their money selling professional-grade OLED monitors.

So i bought B450 board for a cheap used CPU
Its a dead end for me with pcie 3?

Also its true B550 boards dont support ryzen 1200-2950? Anyone tried?

>>105675330
i was going to help until i saw that retarded terrorist in your image

>>105675330
RX 9070XT is fine if that's your budget & if the 5070Ti is absurdly priced.

>>105675331
>infamous for exploding? Dark Power 13 and Cooler Master X Silent Edge respectively.
Says who? Get a Corsair RMx 850 if you can't decide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7_xbr3LT5E
So it begins
the 9070XT owners can look forward to being obsolete just like the 7800X3D and 8GB GPU owners did

>>105675481
>7800X3D
This aged just fine, it's overkill for most games.

9800x3d is overkill right?

What GPU do I need to play Death Stranding 2 out next week

>>105675501
same requirements as horizon forbidden west since its the same game engine.

>>105675492
It's overkill if you're not looking for the very best performance.
But you don't buy a new CPU very often, it's justifiable if you can comfortably afford it.

>>105675331
Either Seasonic Core/Focus/Vertex, msi mpg a850g or corsair rm850x

>>105675372
yes

also check your bios for more info it depends on the board

>>105675492
Do you need a $400 CPU?
You won't be fine with a $200 CPU?

Individual control cable would go:
Pump to AIO_PUMP
VRM to CPU_OPT
Fan to CPU_FAN
Yeah?

>>105675539
Yes

How is a DeepCool
AK620 Zero Dark for a 9800X3D stock in a Fractal North XL? Probably disabling PBO too. No I don't want an AIO. Is the thermal paste that comes with it good enough for 6-8 years before reapplication or should I replace it with Arctic MX-6?

>>105675557
It's fine.

>Is the thermal paste that comes with it good enough for 6-8 years before reapplication or should I replace it with Arctic MX-6
Arctic MX-6 will probably last longer with less pump out.

>>105675331
>So how the fuck am I actually supposed to choose a good psu?
If it has this logo on it, it's the best PSU you can buy.

>>105675522
That's my thought. CPUs are the main reason I end up upgrading.

>>105675532
I've got the cash to spend, and I mostly game so it's not the worst idea.

hear me out:
>GPU MADE FROM TREES

>>105675616
WOOD SCREWS
LMAO

>>105675557
>DeepCool
Chinese untermensh that bypass sanctions and sells their products in world terrorist - Russia.

Is there any substantial difference between the Corsair RM750e and RM750x? Need a new PSU, and the x seems to be the better rated, but I can only find the e in UK. Hell, I could actually go with the 650 watt one, but it seems to be unavailable

>>105675591
some of their budget models are made by RSY and those suck ass (eg. S12 III)

>>105675670
e lower tier components

so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

>>105675687
Does it make an actual difference for a nas?

>>105675670
RMe uses more affordable Chinese caps instead of the more reliable Japanese caps in RMx.
RMe is also a bit louder and maybe slightly less power efficient.

It doesn’t mean RMe PSUs will blow up, and they’re covered by the same 10-year warranty.

My friend’s PC has a RMe 750, it’s past year three and working fine.

>>105675698
>looks at the bronze tier noname shit in my nas
...probably not

>>105675690
god I wish these mentally ills were just shot in the head

>>105675444
For me, the 5070 Ti has an absurd price compared to how little it performs over the 9070XT.

>>105675707
>bronze
Fuck I didn't notice that

The welfare system shouldn't provide internet access for the likes of you.

>>105675492
I don't think CPUs are going to become a lot faster or a lot cheaper in a long time, so I doubt you'll have buyer's remorse.

What is this new case type called?
And where is the PSU?

>>105675867
dual chamber O11 ripoffs

>>105673599
>all that money on the fanciest tech but you won't spring a hundred dollars for a real chair

Alright talk me out of it because I'm going to pull the fucking trigger after price matching. Going to be used for games, stable diffusion/AI, and some home lab stuff. Going X870E in case I need to load the thing up with M2 drives and slap a 10Gbit card in it at some point. 96GB of ram so I don't have to kill virtual machines while gaming, debating downgrading to 64GB but it's only $120 extra. Didn't do much research on MRSP level 5070 TI's but it doesn't seem to have shit cooling like the MSI and Gigabyte ones seemed to have? I hate coil whine, dust, and noise but it seems like that is a crap shoot to avoid nowadays. Anyone used Memory Express or Canada Computers? I live in an all carpeted micropod now so debating just having them build it instead of risking ESD and RMA hell. How important is the undowngradable bios patches for CVE-2025-2884? I don't want to fucking update the bios with no way out.

>Case:
Fractal Design North XL EATX Mid Tower Case, Charcoal w/ Walnut Front, Top Mesh Panel, Tempered Glass Left Side Panel
>CPU:
AMD Ryzen™ 7 9800X3D Processor w/ 8 Cores / 16 Threads, up to 5.2 GHz, 3D V-Cache
>CPU cooler:
DeepCool AK620 Zero Dark CPU Cooler w/ 2x 120mm Fluid Dynamic Bearing PWM Fans
>Thermal Paste:
Arctic Cooling MX-6 Ultimate Performance Thermal Compound Paste, 4g
>Motherboard:
Gigabyte X870E AORUS ELITE WIFI7 w/ DDR5-5200, PCIe 5.0, 4x M.2 Slots, 7.1 Audio, 2.5Gbe LAN, Wi-Fi 7
>Ram:
Corsair Vengeance 96GB DDR5-6000 CL30 Dual Channel RAM Kit (2x 48GB), Grey w/ AMD EXPO & Intel XMP Profiles
>HDD1:
Western Digital 8TB WD_BLACK 3.5-Inch Gaming Hard Drive w/ 256MB Cache
>HDD2:
Western Digital Blue 3.5in Desktop Hard Drive, 8TB w/ SATA III, 256MB Cache
>SSD1:
Samsung 990 PRO PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD, 2TB
>GPU:
Asus PRIME GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16GB PCI-E w/ HDMI, Triple DP
>PSU:
Corsair RM850x Cybenetics Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply, 850W

>>105675647
It's a hunk of metal and some fans. I only care about quiet and cold pragmatic results.

>>105675629

>>105675965
>>Western Digital 8TB WD_BLACK 3.5-Inch Gaming Hard Drive w/ 256MB Cache
why

>>105676038
Offloading shit I don't want hammering my SSD with constant writes and it is a 7200 RPM CMR that was in stock. I don't like Seagate to say the least and have had nothing but issues with them.

>>105675331
Kek

Is it too late to prep for AM6 at this point? Should I just wait for AM7?

>>105674598
This shit is coming out in like 2027. Also big gains per core mean shit. RDNA4 also had big gains per core but less cores.

>>105675492
For 4090 or 5090 probably not. For everything else yeah.

>>105676033

>Buy part for $X
>It arrives
>Use it for a week
>Casually browse for other parts
>See same part I paid X
>It's now 50% off plus free shipping

Are PCIe Risers safe? I mean, aren't GPU designs to work in a certain position?

>>105676255
Yes just make sure they're properly secured and not bottom of the barrel shit cheap. You don't want any short setting your cables on fire.

are we waiting for 6090s yet?

who is >we

Thoughts on this? I'm not sure which PSU/wattage to get.
Budget <$2900 Country Canada Monitor 144hz

>>105676255
Risers degrade signal quality and causes problems on gen5 links or even gen4 too if you use one that's really old

Should I buy used HDDs from Amazon? It doesn't specify if they're refurbished by the manufacturer or just sold used by a third party

>>105676277
Not even any rumors yet. Shit is like 2 years away.

>>105676277
We're hustling to buy a 5090

What card can I upgrade to for 1440p gaming without having to build a new pc?

> Current build:
Ryzen 7 5800x
32gb DDR4
550 watt PSU
1070ti

>>105676576
>1070ti

Mobo?

>>105676340
1000W is overkill for that combo, 750W is good enough (CPU PPT: 170W, GPU: sub-350W)
That 5070Ti seems ridiculously expensive ($945 US), look at some 9070XT cards.
I'm not the Radeon shill, but that's an extreme premium.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/qdHp99/xfx-mercury-oc-rgb-v2-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-97trgbbba
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/WcHp99/asus-prime-oc-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-prime-rx9070xt-o16g

You didn't pick an SSD, I'm guessing you're carrying over the current drive.

>>105676576
9070/XT (16GB), 5070 (12GB), 5070Ti (16GB)
9060XT 16GB and 5060Ti 16GB could also work if you're willing to adjust some settings (High/Mid) from time to time.
I would prioritize value for money and feature set.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9060-xt-pulse-oc/31.html

>>105676576
Cheapest upgrade is a RX 9060 XT 16GB. Strongest I'd go for is a RTX 5070 or a used RTX 4070 Super.

Probably gonna get this after running a refurb 1060 3gb & fx-8350 for 7 years
I'm a cheap fuck but I think its time

>>105676733
Check if your region has the new 4000D FRAME case available, there is a variant with 3x preinstalled fans.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-cases/cc-9011312-ww/frame-4000d-rs-modular-mid-tower-pc-case-cc-9011312-ww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICDGSVLqFVw
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-frame-4000d/
https://www.kitguru.net/components/cases/james-dawson/corsair-frame-4000d-case-review/

Other parts look fine, I would push the boat a bit for a 2TB capacity drive, these have higher endurance too.

>>105676415
>It doesn't specify if they're refurbished by the manufacturer or just sold used by a third party
No, I wouldn't.

what's a good mobo for the 9800X3D, I'm switching from Intel and I'm completely lost when it comes to checking out chipset for AMD.

>>105676864
asus ones as usual

>>105676876
what about the chipset, that's the shit I can't comprehend yet.

>>105676898
b850 if poor
x870e if not poor and want a lot of usb + dp alt mode ports

>>105676864
Hard to recommend ASRock boards at the moment because their boards are still killing Ryzen CPUs, it's a shame because I like the build/specs of 3 of their models.

>I'm switching from Intel and I'm completely lost when it comes to checking out chipset for AMD.
The differences between the chipsets are CPU/Chipset PCIe lane requirements, maximum rated USB data transfer speeds, and the number of SATA ports.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/amd-x870e-vs-x870-vs-x670e-vs-x670-vs-b650e-vs-b650/

Some of the boards I'd buy today are (US)
>Asus TUF GAMING B850-PLUS WIFI ($186.99)
>MSI PRO X870E-P WIFI ($269.99)
Some people bitch about MSI's AM5 QC, but it could be their problem.

>>105676636
>That 5070Ti seems ridiculously expensive
Agreed, luckily it’s on sale for 1099 at a local walk-in store so it’s about the same as every other 5070 ti here.
>750w
Banger, I can just use my current psu in my new build then, thanks.

>>105676823
Eh too late, got a 16tb for £160 rather than £210, I'll give it a test once it arrives and worst case send it back

>>105676636
* I am carrying over my current drives, forgot to mention.

>>105676905
>>105676911
the b650s are good or too shit for the 9800? not US so supply is more of an issue in this godforsaken hellhole for me than money.

>>105676924
Nice build overall, I'm happy for you.
Get that 5070Ti asap.

>>105676933
Yes, you just have to update the board BIOS using a flashback feature (CPU & memory installation not required).
Every B650 board should have this feature.

Try to get the B650 AORUS Elite (V1, not 2) if you can @ a reasonable price.
V2 is also okay if you can't find V1.
B650 TUF WIFI is also fine.
MSI kind of cut corners with their B650 board, not necessarily poor quality but the above two are usually better.

>>105676953
Is the ASUS TUF Gaming B650M-Plus a good one, sorry for the retarded replies, it's the only board I can find that isn't asrock or really bottom of the barrel striped b650s

>>105676937
Different anon actually, re-using my old parts to build a home server
Second ssd and third hdd will have to wait for now, I already spent more than I'm comfortable with for a single month

>>105676964
That's one's fine, just check if it has enough M.2 slots & SATA ports for you.

>>105676970
That's a pretty strong home server.

>>105676971
It does, I'll just need one m.2 for the os drive and the rest I load off to drives I get from work.
>256 Mb Flash ROM, BIOS UEFI AMI
that's the bios flashback feature, right?

>>105676975
I'm just reusing my old desktop's parts (the ones with 0 for the price). Right now it'll be just for a telegram bot I wrote, Jellyfin, my manga library and save backups, will probably end up hosting a Minecraft/Terraria server for my friends too, I think the cpu should easily manage that

lol even Persians are tired of Intel's bullshit.

>>105676985
The Flashback button is on the rear-IO panel.
Read the instructions carefully and be patient with the process, you need to let the update process fully complete.
https://www.asus.com/us/support/faq/1038568/

It's not a difficult process, just be careful.
Most B650 boards will require you to update the BIOS before it knows how to work with that CPU.

By the way, any recommendation for a UPS good enough for both >>105677001 and my current Desktop (4090/9800x3d)?

>>105677026
https://www.apc.com/us/en/product/BR1500MS2/apc-backups-pro-1500va-900w-tower-120v-10x-nema-515r-outlets-avr-usb-type-a-+-c-ports-lcd-user-replaceable-battery/

>>105676985
This is the more up-to-date instructions for using BIOS Flashback on B650 boards.
https://edgeup.asus.com/2024/guide-update-your-asus-amd-600-series-motherboards-bios-for-next-gen-amd-ryzen-cpus/

>>105677033
My bad, I should've mentioned, I'm in the UK

>>105676933
B650 varies more in pcie gen5 support because of non-requirement to include gen5 pcie and m.2. slots
B850 is basically b650E which includes one guaranteed x4 gen5 m.2. slot but the x16 gen5 slot is still optional.

If you don't want to think too much, b850 is the way to go. I'd even say that x870e is a downgrade from b850 since x870/e sacrifices x4 lanes to support usb4.

>>105677040
https://www.amazon.co.uk/APC-Schneider-Electric-Back-UPS/dp/B07WG2CZ67?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.NELd9iMxDUOms-aKcCZ92C3caFM-OoBJPLE55sNnaPFg4g_7SnC05yaK7o56eNqpc4YpuQtpe4MlS4XmkgH5ttz2HbCNpn7DvZZcIU2-lA2UaLbRoV3U6WkRVLwoUe52ep4wDIi9jkVauT8mP92Sj2Z5JF4kCatj_aQuNwo-AkR7Kf_3onAfcOIwHAQTYWuLmMfr0oL9fyo0IA1xRnc_vdoqkLnzWRNuiX2mT4gLQ_Q._F6Cbgq095U_MKvdf1QDrtxjMwH5Kgaia5WWF8a9zUs&dib_tag=se&keywords=apc%2Bups&qid=1750646778&sr=8-1&th=1

>>105677019
>>105677038
>>105677052
Thanks anons, I keep these until I can rake the cash to get the board, cpu and memory.
I'll try getting the B850s, but right now all of them are non-existent or scalped to hell.
Hope won't bent the cpu socket pins like I did with my intel the first time I place the cpu.

>>105675184
who cares!

>>105677069
Don't pay scalped prices for a B850 board if that B650M is good enough for you.

>Hope won't bent the cpu socket pins like I did with my intel the first time I place the cpu.
My advice is to install the CPU before you put the board inside the PC case. (place board on top of the motherboard box)
Don't remove the protective CPU socket cover until you're ready to install the CPU.
And install the CPU in the correct orientation, you shouldn't have to put any force when you're fitting the CPU to the socket.

>>105675255
> OLED monitors are meant for professionals
There is not one professional OLED display. Pros use IPS.

I'm really having a hard time picking a mobo and RAM. Does it have to appear in the list to work?
Every time I look for something, it's one of these cases for 9000 series:
ASUS: I'm reading most of them at those prices are good, but I can't find RAM compatible with it.
MSI: RAM appears sometimes, but it doesn't say shit if it works with EXPO or whatever, and always says single-sided, and I've seen other examples using dual.
Gigabyte: Most of the time it appears, but I heard Gigabyte is shit.
ASRock: Is melting X3Ds...
Am I being a retard or will any RAM that says EXPO-compatible just work with any board?

The next advancement in monitors will be modular panels that are user serviceable (ie replaceable). This way instead of trying to permanently solve the burn problems of OLED, why not find a way to make them cheaper and then market models that can have its panel (specifically just the emission surface) replaced regularly every handful of years?

>>105677119
I'd buy one just to get the fucking gnats out of mine

>>105675492
It's just enough for gayming. Get a 9950X3D if you do any serious shit.

>>105677116
>There is not one professional OLED display.
Explain these. Do some research before you make stupid claims.

nicotroon lost btw

>>105677116

>>105677053
Huh, this is my first time seeing inputs like that, I'm guessing I could still use it if I were to move to a different country?
Anyway. thanks a lot anon

>>105672503
I will buy an oled and report back to you, however you have to wait year(s) for the real unbiased unretarded report
redditors get mad over slight gray screen uniformity fuck ups after around 1 year
if you are not that autistic and depending on usage, monitor, firmware how it operates, years? oled tv pixels cluters dying might more of a concern, maybe not
so my estimate is 1-5 years
and also if you have to ask oled is not for you

>>105675255
nothings gonna happen
watch the upcoming 5k monitors be released with some cuck shit 165hz refreshes, in short, being worse for gamers than the 4k240 ones already out
1440p500hz ones coming soon
the next step is 4k480hz or 1440p960hz
I guess they will fill in a stop game meme like the 720hz ones or some shit
keep in mind you are already at 2ms persistence at 500hz for the blur, will 720 750hz be impressive worth an upgrade? barely worth
new memes like 5k2 240hz ultrawides or ultramegasuper dual 4k ones might drop though
lgs new panels and whatever will drop and they will be worse than qdoleds or something, they will be rgb but not a normal pixel matrix either so they will have fringing and shit like that
literally nothing will happen in a while now

>>105677116
"pros " buy oled tvs and calibrate them fine lmao and use them as displays

>>105677119
>modular panels
thats microled and it's a DOA tech
unless you gonna use a 200" display

>>105676920
Be aware of the age of your PSU. Age will have taken off some capacity and of course will be running it closer to its limits under load. If you ever find you need a new PSU later, contemporary 850W models will be cheaper than 1000Ws obviously and are meant to fit that parts combo.

>>105677181
>nothings gonna happen
A passionate display enthusiast like you shouldn't be so cynical about the market.
Gaming monitors (+240Hz) with DisplayHDR TrueBlack 600 panels will be available within the next 1~2 years.

>lgs new panels and whatever will drop and they will be worse than qdoleds or something
I was listening to the Monitors Unboxed podcast while doing some chores today, it featured the TFT Central guy.
The TFT guy said he's looking forward to the Gigabyte monitor (MO27Q28G) with this new LG panel, and claims it will be one of the brightest OLED monitors in the market.
I believe it's got a matte finish though.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/gigabyte-announce-mo27q28g-with-a-27-primary-rgb-tandem-woled-panel

Samsung and LG Display have to keep developing better OLED panels or they're going to lose the market to Chinese display manufacturers.

>>105677211
LG oleds are not that good in practice because of aggressive abl on high apl scenes

>>105677117
>Does it have to appear in the list to work?
Not at all, you just have to find a kit on the QVL with the same or similar timings as the one you're buying.
That Team Group kit should work with almost any Intel/AMD DDR5 board.

>Most of the time it appears, but I heard Gigabyte is shit.
Gigabyte makes better motherboards than video cards, I wouldn't mind buying that B850 Aorus Elite.

TUG Gaming B850-E is also a good choice, I think the MSI Gaming Plus is the weakest if you compare the spec sheets.

I have determined replacing Case Fans is the most aids thing one can do.

>>105676933
650s are cheaper but they are being phased out. If it never breaks down on you then it'll be alright. B850s are more future proof for when GPUs start really making use of their PCIe 5.0 slots.

>>105677302
It's piss easy or pure torture depending on the case. Had one where I had to rip out the front (plastic snap fit) and the top (plastic snap fit, also the IO is attached to the panel because fuck you lmao) panels just to replace a top fan. And then on other cases you don't need to open any panels at all. But then there might be shit getting in the way.
It depends.

>>105677302
Bagged lawn clippings are some of the smelliest trash ever. This is a much stupider thing to do.

>>105674770
He's showing you Dlss working on an AMD card which nvidia said wasn't possible how much of a dumb cunt are you

>Get new case
>Unpack it
>Touch it once
>Immediately ruined

>>105677559
Fingerprints? Shattered side panel?

>>105677302
Because you didn't immediately replace your case fans with Noctua ones at the start like you should have.

>>105677580
Fingerprints and they'll never come out

>>105677117
It does not have to be on the manufacturer's list to work. Those are the kits the manufacturer tested themselves. I have a set of Trident Z5s that are not on my motherboard's officially supported list but they work just fine because they are essentially the non-Royal heat spreader version of a kit which IS on the official list.

>>105677559
>get new case
>unpack it
>move my build
>just works
>never peel the film because who the fuck cares
>buyer's remorse sets in
>check options again
>yep, good solid panel cases are still overpriced and/or have fuckall HDD slots
>oh well
Maybe someday I'll sell it and pay out the ass for one of those anyway, I'm sure some faggot will appreciate the mint condition glass.

any am4 deals? am4 is so cozy

>>105677592
Ohhh... I'm GUNNA BROWWWWWWWWNNNnnnn,,,,.

>>105677592
>when your pc signs up for the ranger course

>>105677648
unless buying used - it is literally a difference 50 to 100 eur total to build on leftover stock of am4 here. it's not like am4 is given away on discounts or something.

>>105677648
look for used parts. late intel ddr4 platforms are equally cozy too

>>105677302
Whippersnappers like you don't know what real fixed fans were like back in my day. Had a Cooler Master from the times where there were front drive bays, that thing had just one shitty slim fan crammed in the front bottom with a 100% unservicable front panel and those sponge dust filters that are inserted into the grilles from the inside (also 100% unserviceable). Just count yourself as living in luxury that you can even replace them.

When you see this you cant unsee it.

>>105677734
These are all solid results thoughbeit

Completed this on Intel Arc.

>>105677624
>>105677243
Thanks guys.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jYpLLc After weeks of looking at prices and lurking here, this is what I have to show for it. I only have doubts about the monitor, since this is the first time I'm getting more than 60Hz and 1080p, and I just keep reading things about ghosting and HDR is hard to tell if I've never had anything with that to my knowledge.
At the moment, I'm leaning toward picking the ASUS ROG Strix and the MSI MAG or maybe just going with two MSI MAGs. I don’t think I can spend more than $300 on a monitor.

>>105677750
Nice

>>105677764
I'm from Chile, and prices are pretty similar and I'm getting a couple of pieces from Amazon.

>>105676223
That's why you set a longer time frame for buying parts. I've seen a lot of weird advice about how you should buy everything at the same time. Yeah sure if you want to pay more to the corpos. If you instead choose a 6 month period to slowly buy all parts as they go on sale many cheeseburgers will be saved.

This is pretty easy for most components since you should have a couple of comparable alternatives and at least one of them is bound to decrease in price.

>>105677750
sex

>>105673102
wtf

Didn't know that some RAM sticks only support one memory profile and bought an XMP only one for my B560 with a 7800x3d.
Seems fine though and everything checks out on CPU-Z.
I'm guessing mobo companies wouldn't risk enabling XMP for AMD sockets if there were chances of issues. Right?

What's a good mouse these days? I'm liking my Deathadder V3 right now so I'm thinking about getting the wireless version next. Anything better I should look out for?

Preferably wireless, giant hands, palm grip

>>105677768
>>105677955
WHAT?
Honey ten Tyronne lombax before you.

>>105678168
She fucks human men and lets her species go extinct

>part of me says I should splurge and buy a new rig because my money is just losing value day by day and it's bringing me zero enjoyment anyway
>other part of me says I should just hodl my cash because of the comfort of having emergency money (I am poor and have no cash flow)

>>105678032
XMP will work with AMD, its just not optimized. Did your BIOS just grey out the option entirely?

>>105678221
>>part of me says I should splurge and buy a new rig because my money is just losing value day by day and it's bringing me zero enjoyment anyway
buy gold
>>other part of me says I should just hodl my cash because of the comfort of having emergency money (I am poor and have no cash flow)
don't buy gold

>>105678032
XMP and EXPO (and DOCP, X-AMP, EOCP, etc.) are fundamentally the same thing - unused bytes in the SPD chip repurposed to store additional timing data. The difference is just minor variations in the timings themselves that (in theory) are better optimised for Intel or AMD CPUs. In reality the difference is super marginal so you'd be hard-pressed to notice anything outside of benchmarks.

>>105678254
>buy some grams of gold
useless in all actuality
meanwhile people who buy houses find gold bricks hidden in the place worth millions
every day I seethe

I haven't had a computer since 2010. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I clicked the pcpartpicker link and it had builds already made for retards like me. Is that what i should do? I don't know whats good at all. Live in the US, i have about $1500 to spend on this, but i can push it to $2000. I don't have a use case involving work, but someone several threads ago told me to just take a guess. I don't have a job involving computers, is fucking gaming the only benchmark i can go with? I don't really do that, but I also don't render videos, or do music production, or any of this AI crap i see all the time. I guess i just want whatever i get to last me several years before i have to replace anything, and I'm tired of phone posting on everything, and I'd rather do this than get a laptop.

>>105678336
You can't be expected to naturally know any of this shit.
But it sounds like you hardly even need a PC. $2000 for what, web browsing? What is this fuckoff money? You could get a used gaymen rig for like $300 and be done with it. You'll never have to replace anything if you're not doing much.

>>105676223
>buy gpu for $350
>it takes 2 weeks to arrive but price is now $420
>feel smug about predicting incredibly obvious fake msrp shenanigans

>>105678232
No. The only option and I enabled it.

>>105678314
I'm not a stickler for ultra minor performance differences so that's good to hear.

>>105678336
if you don't gaym and don't work - what is you're use case then? just buy a tablet for browsing or some cheap laptop and call it day.

>>105678434
Sounds like a plan then.
>>105678472
Just said I don't want a laptop, or tablet. But whatever, these were the same responses i got last time, fuck me for wanting something nice after busting my ass to save this money I guess.

Is there such a thing as a case with a built in mini UPS? I know of FSP's PSU with internal battery but I was thinking of something slightly more substantial with AC regulation. Sounds to me like a thing that would make sense for ITX systems which could be potentially moved around, so having a wee little bit of battery life seems rational to have.

>>105677942
So what, I maybe save about $500 but also have the setup I want 6 months after I wanted it. Not worth it at all for me

>>105678491
>fuck me for wanting something nice after busting my ass to save this money I guess
Chill, Stacey. People are actually telling you to not fuck around with money and don't waste it on things you seem to don't even need in the first place (you don't care about gayms, you don't do any production, you don't need it for anything besides shitposting).
Want a perfect and cheap shitposting machine? - Mac mini on m4 in the most-basic config for 600 bucks or one of those intel nucs or whatever.
You will thank /g/ later after you will not end-up with glowing gayman rig for 2k shekels which you don't even use.

Found a 9700X for $289 with a $40 coupon and free shipping on AliExpress. I hope it makes it home.

>>105678590
Uhhhh I don't think this is real anon. Price seems way to low

>>105678598
It looks safer than most stuff I’ve bought there, but it’d be the most expensive. If there’s any left by morning, I’ll probably grab one.

>>105678636
Nevermind I'm retarded and read that as 9070xt

>>105678491
If you go that route, consider also
>a new SSD (500gb+) unless it already comes with unused storage for some reason
>1440p IPS monitor
>look into mechanical keyboards if it sounds like something you'd care about
>Win10 LTSC, see >>105657591

The frog isn't wrong in that you might want something smaller, though. But not a mac. Maybe check out prebuilts and get the smallest one you can find (with 16GB+ RAM). If it's something that's actually still sold, it's bound to be good enough.

>>105678660
>AMD naming

>>105678636
>40MB Game Cache

5080 super when.

>>105678719
The 5080 is already super :)

>>105678673
Thank you, this is the direction i needed pointing in. I didn't explain myself well, and thats on me, but I'm not looking for something that will get me by, what i want was something i can build up later if necessary. Honestly, maybe i should have lead with something for my nephew first. Unlike me, he does like to play video games, so maybe i should start with him first. If you said i could get by with something around $300, I'll take your word for it. His birthday is coming up, so it is probably better to devote this to him first and I'll get my shitbox later.

>>105678738
Alright, that changes things. If you want something upgrade-able later then I'd say a used outdated build would still do just fine, but make sure it's in a decent case. Although for as long as you have nothing more hardware-intensive to do on it, you really will not need to upgrade for like 20 years possibly. And it's not like something like a miniPC will make your experience any worse compared to a tower with the same peripherals plugged into it.

Do HE keyboard switches come in variants with a tactile feel rather than linear? I type a fair bit and given the price premium HE keyboards command it seems like I'm going to end up using mechanicals till the day I die.

>>105678719
what for the 6080 instead

>he doesn't wait for the 7080
rumao

>>105678636
>4nm

For me, it's Terra.

Imagine not waiting for the 90090

>>105678816
>Waiting 4 years for a slightly faster 4090 at $1200

I wait for the 888888 infinity edition

>>105678780
the whole point of he is to have analog triggers, why the fuck do you put in a mechanical bump somewhere there then? makes no sense
me? Im copping the wooting 60he v2 when it drops if im gonna consoom
mechanicals are obsolete

>>105678991
you think you will find logic and common sense here? no

nvidia is a brand of fake radeon cards known to catch fire, and to produce fake frames with inaccurate colors.

how retarded is buying chinese ddr5 kits?

>>105679252
you only do it once in a lifetime

>>105679252
kingbank 6400cl32-39-39 kits should be fine since crap ram can't run those timings

>>105679252
How much are you gonna save anyways?

>>105676733
Check if you can save a cheeseburger on the cooler and compare the price of the deepcool to the phantom spirit, peerless assassin and frozn a620 pro se

>>105678491
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/mhPjQd
Here's your shitposting machine for €1344, all good parts. It's very overkill for shitposting so you should be able to do it for the next 20 years.

I'm confused about Ryzen CPUs.
If I order the 9700X do I need to overclock to get the performance I expect from passmark bechmarks?
People say it isn't better than a 7700X and is limited to 65W unless I turn PBO on or some shit, is that something that's guaranteed to work fine or does that fall under the "YMMV" umbrella of lottery performance bullshit?

Will a B650 board work fine?

>>105679483
Most of the performance improvement in the 9700x over the 7700x lies in very specific avx512 code. Outside of that the 9700x is about 5% better at the same clocks as the 7700x but since it's gimped to 65W tdp (88w) at factory settings, it runs at much lower clock speed than the 7700x and thusly only matches it

Yes b650 is fine

>>105678991
you think 6080 is going to be that bad?

>>105674605
15 years ago when i was a kid and had no idea how to build my own computer i used cyberpowerPC to customize one
they skimped on RAM by using some weird offbrand and did the same for the watercooler
i paid 800 dollars altogether and looking back it was about 600 dollars worth of parts

>>105680267
>i paid 800 dollars altogether and looking back it was about 600 dollars worth of parts
No shit. The guy building your PC isn't doing it for free.

>>105680303
I would do it for free.

>>105679616
What would be the process for making it run at higher watts? Is it a simple setting that guarantees it at the expense of more power consumption or more of a "might work, might not" overclocking type of situation?

>>105680330
Go to the AMD overclocking options and then into the pbo submenu. Then set a ppt of 150W and EDC and TDC of 180A and your CPU will boost without limits (except the 95C thermal throttling). This isn't considered overclocking and won't cause instability as the CPU still uses the factory programmed voltage/frequency table

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ApWCtAuKcI

Oh look, a extremely good looking game running at 60fps 1440p on basically a RX 6700 GPU and a Zen 2 mobile CPU, all because it doesn't have fucking gaytracing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1RF1wssgyA
RTX PRO 6000 sisters... our response?

>>105680447
>>105675513

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hpKDVF

I am returning to school and will be doing compsci. I don't plan on gaming much but will be doing light video production. I will also be doing coding and cyber security stuff, don't know how CPU/GPU intensive all this will be.
I do know I like 4k vs 1440p but I can be talked down off the ledge if 1440p will save me a lot of money. I want dual monitors, one 32 horizontal, one 27 vertical. Ideally I'd like a little room for growth into the future but my needs shouldn't escalate hard.

Is it possible to build a desktop with the power of a 3700X/3060 Ti within a laptop-tier power envelope and have it be near silent these days?

>>105680617
I should add, where I live I can pick up 4k Monitors for 1/2 price very easy (northern Virginia) so I should be able to get the 32 and 27 4k for about 250 total.
I have never built a PC before and don't know if all these components fit correctly in the case as configured. But I have watched many videos on the subject and it seems easy enough.

>>105680617
not even a 3060? or 4060?

>>105680617
I would not go for a white build or AIO at that budget, you can get a newer/better case from the savings.
There is also a cheaper memory kit, Team Group is a reliable memory manufacturer.
You're not realistically 4K or probably even 1440p gaming with a 3050 6GB.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DqNwJn

Alight lads. First time owning an OLED. It's been a couple days. MSI321UP. So far It's ran 5 pannel protect cycles, and each one was caught mid-gameplay so I just had to stop everything for about 10 minutes while it does its thing. The screen says it will also do this while PC is "idle" but I don't know exactly what it counts as idle because I don't really feel comfortable leaving my screen on while I"m not using it because you know, burnin and all that shit.
In windows I've got a 1 minute timer for automatic wallpaper change, 10 minute timer for screensaver, and 15 minute timer for screen off, and never off/sleep for PC itself, and I didn't touch any of the settings on the screen itself.
In return for the answer, I give you my battle station so you may laugh at me.

>>105680896
why do you have a router on your desk

I got picrel with my monitor. What am I in for bros?

>>105680905
kek I thought this was a PS5 and wondered what edition it is

>>105680910
if you install armoury crate on your pc you basically need to reinstall windows to get rid of it

>>105680905
ebin meem. But it's not a router. It's a death stranding machine.

>>105676661
>9070/XT (16GB)
>9060XT 16GB
jeet please...

>>105676686
>Cheapest upgrade is a RX 9060 XT 16GB
jeet please...

>>105676911
>...........
jeet please...

>>105677103
>Don't pay scalped prices for a B850 board if that B650M is good enough for you.
jeet please...

>>105680916
It is a PS5 with aftermarket plates.

>>105680617
>don't know how CPU/GPU intensive all this will be
This is a 7700X build if your workloads benefit from having more CPU cores/threads.
Arctic USA has an official eBay account that sells open-box Liquid Freezer 360 AIOs at an affordable price ($45) and includes six-year warranty coverage.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HhYKQd
https://www.ebay.com/itm/356354432929

>>105677648
>am4 is so cozy
jeet please...

>>105679476
>de
>Here's your shitposting machine, all good parts
jeet please...

>>105680667
>with the power of a 3700X
jeet please...

>>105680917
I didn't need it to request the key. But... oh well I installed it even before that. Was that a bad idea?

just report instead of replying

>>105680617
can you stretch your budget for a 265K and a Z890 board?
the new Intel CPUs are the only CPUs with proper security, actually completely overhauled, I'd imagine you care about that stuff lol.

>>105680933
it prob takes longer to download and create windows installation media on usb stick than it is to actually install windows

just make sure to move important files to other drives so they dont get lost when you format it

>>105680896
>So far It's ran 5 pannel protect cycles, and each one was caught mid-gameplay so I just had to stop everything for about 10 minutes while it does its thing.
Pre-emptively run a panel protect cycle before your gaming sessions or change the management period to run once every 16/24 hours.
You could also just hit the "Cancel" button to delay the protect cycle until the monitor enters a sleep mode cycle.

Check the monitor's firmware version, FW.017 is the latest one for your monitor.
>Please press the Navi Key button on the back side of the monitor to enter OSD menu, the firmware version should be at the bottom right corner as FW.XXX.

>>105680977
>Pre-emptively run a panel protect cycle before your gaming sessions or change the management period to run once every 16/24 hours.
>You could also just hit the "Cancel" button to delay the protect cycle until the monitor enters a sleep mode cycle.
I'm trying to set up my PC in a way where it will run ilt when I afk but I'm unsure about timers and shit, but yeah, I can definitely do that.
>Check the monitor's firmware version, FW.017 is the latest one for your monitor.
It is, I was gonna update the firmware before doing anything but it came with 017 from the box.

>>105680976
Am I just talking to a schizo? So nothing's wrong with it, I guess

>>105680997
enjoy your malware

>>105681006
*you're

>secure wiping a pc to sell
>having windows installer looking for updates and drivers is taking too fucking long
>close installer
>windows is cleaning up before closing
>wait a minute, just turn off pc and reboot computer in 5% of time it would take for windows to close a fucking window
why is it like this

>>105680863
My gaming consists of 2000s titles like counterstrike 1.6 or source. I'm really not interested in joining the triple a modern scene.
I didn't see anything cheaper because it was white unless that team group memory is black only.
I guess I wanted a liquid cooler because it looked cool, would I save much over the 50 dollar one I posted by going fan only?
>>105680704
3060s look double price what is that buying me?

What do you company sluts recommend for budget AI?
Should i buy;
> multiple B580s
>old RTX card with 10GB+ Vram?
>New RX 9060 16GB
>New RTX 5060 Ti 16GB

>>105681207
3090
4090
wait for 5080 24gb

>>105681218
so what’s mid range and high range ai if that’s budget

>>105681238
you either can run the llms or you cant
non-nvidia gpus cant run cuda applications
llms that require 20gb vram dont run very well on 10gb vram cards

>>105681248
neat thanks. I’m nta but was curious

It's been a year since I own my 7900xtx one thing is how the coil whine pretty much went away by month 8.

>>105681218
I see, would Multiple GPUs compensate for the lower VRAM per card, and would the double B580 card at computex be a good choice when it releases?

>>105681307
people stick multiple 3090's in a pc to share the memory and rest flows on ram
intel gpus may work on some ai tasks but not on cuda

>>105680051
It's just how GPU manufacturers do business now, Radeon included.
Chip manufacturing & design costs keep rising, GPUs are significantly larger than a CPU's logic chip.
NVIDIA is incentivized to offer the smallest generational gains when there's no competition.

Expect between 15~25% generational improvement even accounting for the node upgrade for the 6080 and below.
If the gains are on the higher end of that percentage, expect higher prices.

The -90 class GPU is a bit different because its specs aren't constrained to a laptop GPU's chip dimensions & efficiency targets.
All the other RTX GPUs are flexibly designed to be spec'd as a laptop GPU.

>>105681307
considering Video cards are the most expensive part of a consumer PC in 2025 i dont see why extra cards is the option youre weighing

>>105681157
Get the Arctic B-Stock AIO for $45 from their official eBay US account if you want a water cooler (6-year warranty).
They have good customer service.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/356354432929

>>105681207
5060 Ti 16GB

>>105681342
Because 2 B580s or 2 RTX 3060s are cheaper and equivalent in price to an RTX 5060 Ti respectively.
>More VRAM
>But more power draw and likely the inability to use full power
I thought VRAM was the most important bit since
>Cuda run out of memory
Would multiple GPUs shit themselves while trying to share RAM?

>>105681333
So multiple Rtx 3060s?

>>105681333
Has AMD improved their AI software?
They have better gaytracing
Perhaps they might provide better value for AI as well

>>105681566
>They have better gaytracing
A stock 5070Ti can almost match the RT performance of the best manually OC'd 9070XT.

>>105681630
What about the 5060 and the RX 9060 xt chart anon?

Why should I buy a Thinkpad instead of one of these:

https://youtube.com/shorts/oWKRHyIb4jk?si=tgATA-ow5hFC6A9W

>>105672464 (OP)
I'm upgrading my gig and need your feedback: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/qkle/saved/#view=9zX44D

I'm from Vietnam want to upgrade my GAMING rig with a small budget (USD $763)

- my old GPU NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (NVIDIA) => AMD RX 9060 XT - 16GB, likely a Saphire or PowerColor model
- my old CPU Intenl Core i5 7400 @ 3.00GHz => Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz (i want to run Doom: The dark ages so just copy it's recommended CPU)
- my old mother board ASUSTek B250M-A (LGA1151) is not compatible => so I need a new one MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4, basically just a cheapest one i can get
- And a cooler Thermalright Assassin King 120 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
- all other parts are just recycled from current PC and are basically the same as the pcpartpicker list

Appreciate if you can get some feedbacks or recommendation.

>>105681822
Hard to give a proper value assessment without local pricing but I'll do my best. What sort of games do you play and do you do any other intensive tasks, eg. video editing, on the PC?

>>105681822
i'd personally get a better b450 motherboard for the increased reliability but if you can't find one then i guess the a320 might be fine, but don't quote me on that.

>>105672905
Funfact2, you can find one on /v/, and you can recognize him because he always posts the same shitty Control clips and gets very angry when you point out that ray tracing fails to deliver some graphic features that were standard 15 years ago.

>>105681723
Same story, but it's embarrassing for AMD considering the 9060 XT (both 8 & 16GB) is using the fully-enabled Navi 44 GPU (199 mm2) whereas the 5060 8GB GPU is a cut-down GB206 (84% of full config, 181 mm2).
That 5060 Ti in that chart isn't even the 16GB variant.

>>105681339
What do you think 6090 specs and improvements over 5090 could be?
Personally I'm hoping for something like 5090 performance, but with 4090 power draw, instead of more performance but 800W power draw

>>105681878
These are the local pricing (in VND) and they added up to USD $763. I'm only used my PC for Gaming & MS Excel.

Please see attachment for the screenshot of local pricing and my most played game.

The goal of this upgrade is to aim for:
- Buffer for future demand
- I want to play Helldivers 2 , Doom: The Dark Age & Space Marine 2 at high setting

>>105681882
They do have B450M at my local shop at around $57 - $60 as per this screenshot. So I should get a B450M then, got it

>>105681945
Maybe +75% if they use N2 and +40% if they use N3

>>105681952
not the person you're replying to but if your budget is really tight, a 5700 will probably be cheaper than the 5700x and it also comes with a cooler in the box. it might be worth looking into that and see if you'll be able to tolerate the boxed coolers acoustics and thermals.

>>105681952
Alright that's a pretty broad mix. I think ideally you'd get on a current gen platform (i.e. AM5) but I understand that's probably out of your budget range. How much more would a 5700X3D cost?
If neither option is possible then I'd say to get the 12700 build since your preferred games are generally heavier on the CPU. However, the card might struggle with the games you're planning on playing - if you're getting acceptable FPS (with your 7400) on your current games then it may be better to go with the 5700X build.
Also, like the other anon said, if you do choose to build AM4 you will want a better motherboard. For BIOS compatibility if nothing else.

>>105681945
>but 800W power draw
It's probably staying at 600W, the node shrink will provide some efficiency gains.

>What do you think 6090 specs and improvements over 5090 could be?
I can't say, it will depend on the yield of the larger chips. Probably a minimum of 20%
Yield estimates for a perfect GB202 die are around 57%, 5090 uses a cut-down version so the yields should be a bit higher.

>>105681822
>I need a new one MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4, basically just a cheapest one i can get
That motherboard might not work with the 5700X out of the box, you need to go to a PC building shop and ask them to update the board BIOS to one that's compatible with the 5700X (latest version should be fine).

Alternatives include finding a board that supports that CPU out of the box, or buy a board that allows you to update the BIOS without a CPU/memory.

>>105682029
What about VRAM? Will it stay at 32 or will get bumped to 48?

>>105681991
The BIOS version compatibility consideration in >>105682060 applies to all those boards too (if they're manufactured with an older/incompatible BIOS).
The easiest way is to get a local shop to update the BIOS for you.
These boards need an older Ryzen CPU to boot to BIOS and update it.

>>105682078
No one knows man, I would say there's a bigger chance that the memory config will remain @ 32GB.
The 4090 didn't get a memory capacity upgrade from the 3090.

>>105682028
5700X3D is $242 vs $190 for the 5700X
The 12700 you mentioned is Intel i7-12700? My current i5 7400 gets horriable FPS with Helldivers 2 (~15 to 20 FPS) or unplayable with Space Marine 2. This is the main reason I want to upgrade.

An I7-12700F 2.1 GHz will cost $381 though vs the AMD.

>>105682003
5700 is $185 with a free Wraith Spire Cooler vs $190 for the 5700X
Is the FPS drop for 5700 from 5700X a lot?

>>105682060
>>105682094
I'm buying my part from a local PC building shop that I frequent. I think they will be able to help me with the BIOS upgrade.

>>105682127
the 5700 has half the L3 cache but i'm not sure how much that'll effect gaming performance on low-midrange graphics cards. probably not by much.

>>105682127
5700X is the value choice for you, you're going to be GPU bottlenecked most of the time @ 1440p & 1080p when we're talking about AAA games.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/19.html

whats the best intel budget workstation CPU? 7500f (and ryzen cpus and motherboards in general) are way more expensive here,

>>105682210
Probably the 13600/14600/K/F if you're looking for a 7500F alternative.
Don't buy the 13500, it's a mislabeling and uses previous-gen P-Cores.

>>105682202
Thanks. Guess i will choose the 5700X then. Oh btw if i'm planning to play at 1920 x 1080 to have better FPS, is that a waste or not? A lots of benchmarking seems to aim at 1440 x 1080 but i dont know if the quality upgrade at 14440 is really noticable.

>>105682210
12400/F and 12600/K are also options if you need something cheaper.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-7600-non-x/

>>105682262
>Oh btw if i'm planning to play at 1920 x 1080 to have better FPS, is that a waste or not?
Not a waste imo, but this is down to personal choice.
If game devs add FSR4 support or if you use the Optiscaler mod, you can apply FSR4 upscaling to improve 1440p performance with good enough upscaling quality.
But you shouldn't use the Optiscaler mod in multiplayer games with cheat detection.

If you care about multiplayer performance, I would stay @ 1080p.
Check the difference when you visit that PC shop.

>>105682127
Honestly another $50 for the X3D isn't a bad deal. Were it me I'd save up - best of both worlds. With that said, of the two, I'd go with the 5700X+9060XT on account of the information you've provided.

>>105682285
Thank you. Really appreciate.

Thanks other anons in this thread too. Best of wishes to you all.

>>105682271
>>105682260
Is it also true that intel can handle 4 sticks of ddr5 rams? I am planning to buy 4x16gb ddr5s

>>105682295
I see. Let me consider saving a bit more for the 5700X3D too

>>105682319
>Is it also true that intel can handle 4 sticks of ddr5 rams?
Only guaranteed to run that configuration according to their CPU spec sheet (XMP stability not guaranteed).
Pic shows the supported memory speed for the 14600K (same for all 13/14th gen CPU).
12th Gen CPUs support a lower speed (4800MT/s).

If you want to run @ XMP speeds, stick with 2 DDR5 modules.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/236799/intel-core-i5-processor-14600k-24m-cache-up-to-5-30-ghz/specifications.html
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/134586/intel-core-i512400-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz/specifications.html

If you had ONLY these 3 options, what would you choose and which card will last the longest?
>5070
>5060 Ti 16gb
>7800XT

>>105682385
5060 TI
VRAM is king and once you hit that wall it doesn't matter how fast your clocks and everything else is

>>105682385
Probably the 5070, the performance gap is too big between this and the 5060Ti 16GB.
>VRAM!
That could be a problem in certain settings, but the latest DLSS update reduced the amount of memory it uses.
And there's no game where a 12GB card can't run even at the low(est) setting.

Radeon cards do have more VRAM, but they also rely on it more compared to GeForce cards due to differences in GPU design.
It's a matter of how much you're concerned about the 12GB capacity. I pick the stronger chip.
You can even find some 5070 at/below MSRP these days.

>7800XT
I'd rather consider the 9070 non-XT instead of this one.

>>105682385
5070 easily. it's selling well below msrp now and provides one of the best price/perf experiences on the market.

>>105682358
I dont understand these things at all
Would you recommend
>7500f, b650 motherboard, 2x16gb ddr5 (6400,36cl) for ~450$
or
>one of these intel, cheapest motherboard compatible, 4x16 gb ddr4 for ~250$
Gpu will probably be rtx 3060 12gb or rtx 4060 8gb with 650 Watt PSU
I also want it to be future-proof, but I am really clueless third worlder. Should I go get small loan to build the amd board?
target is math and 3D physics simulations, ML and gaming at last

>>105682493
all of the components will be used except for b650 motherboard for context (and chinese ddr5 rams)

>>105681630

A 150$ more expensive card is faster? Insane.

>>105682502
>A 150$ more expensive card is faster? Insane.
That's not the real price difference in most regions. "Launch Price" is the keyword.

>more expensive card is faster? Insane.
Tell that to AMD >>105681931
I'll play your little game and say this
"50$ more expensive card is slower? Insane."

>>105682493
>one of these intel, cheapest motherboard compatible, 4x16 gb ddr4 for ~250$
Go with what you can afford, this one.

>>105682568
>That's not the real price difference in most regions

It is now, prices dropped. You can get good 9070XT for 700$ while cheapest 5070Ti is 840$ and that's for utter garbage models with plastic backplate and terrible temps. Decent 5070 Ti starts at 900$.

how are bluetooth adapters for wireless controllers for gaming? i have a £5 bluetooth 5.4 adapter for use with my xbox controller on the way from amazon. this one specifically:

>UGREEN Bluetooth 5.4 Adapter PC, USB Bluetooth Dongle for PC Windows 11/10/8.1, EDR and BLE Modes, Long Range, Plug & Play, Mini-Sized, for Controller, Headphone, Keyboard, Mouse etc.

>>105682620
The pricing is the way it is because AMD's client group executives admitted their Radeon cards aren't good nor attractive enough to compete against NVIDIA near price parity.

>>105682423
>>105682447
>>105682469
aight, thanks, I'll mull over some more between 5070 vs the more expensive 9070

>>105682620
>plastic backplate and terrible temps

So i'm looking to upgrade my ol faithful gtx 960 and i'm eyeing the following
>3060: $275k = $229
>3060ti: $310k = $258
>3070: $325k = $270
>3070ti: $365k = $304
the best price/perf wise is the 3070, right?

>>105682765
Game reviewers are deliberately finding settings that cause memory issues that mostly aren't representative to how a 5070 owner would play them.
By the time 12GB VRAM becomes a serious issue, the GPU in the 5070 won't be strong enough to run games at the higher settings.

>>105682773
Look at the Ventus RPM and noise. Hot memory is perfectly fine, meanwhile Nvidia removed hotspot sensors because FE cards were easily hitting 90+.

>>105682765
i post it here all the time, but if my 3080 10gb can run games at max/high settings in 98% of games at 4k with sometimes dlss between performance and balanced, a 5070 12gb should easily be able to too, since it not only has more ram but is about 10-15% more powerful. take vram benchmarks with a pinch of salt, they usually max games out to purposely push the card to its limits. but any sensible person will use optimized settings to get the best visuals:performace ratio.

>>105682802
>Ignore the general trend of all 9070XT temps, look at this worst 5070Ti
kek'd.

>>105682493
buy the amd one, shittel will cost a lot in long run

what's the best cheap b650 motherboard i can get away with for gaymen. are those chinese boards any good

>>105683009
This B650M board seems decently priced atm ($140).
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nfyH99/asus-tuf-gaming-b650m-e-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b650m-e-wifi

>>105683009
$150 Asus PRIME B650-PLUS for the cheapest while also not exploding like a Chinese board would.
Or $200 to $220 Asus TUF B650-E for the best price-to-performance value.
Remember that a board that's too cheap is just as bad as a board that's too expensive.

>>105682493
Never buy anything that says Intel on it.

Is chink inno3D a reliable brand?

>>105683009
you can find some mini ATX boards from aliexpress, wouldnt trust them though

>>105683114
If I said no, what would you do?
Almost all card models priced near MSRP will be just "okay" on average.
Check reviews with product teardowns to check the heatsink's dimensions, larger heat sinks help the card run quieter.

>>105682839
which are the best AIB for Nvidia? Between msi ventus, asus rog strix, asus tuf, evga, gigabyte

>>105683165
Asus TUF, easily. Their TUF brand in general is incredible. EVGA doesn't make Nvidia cards anymore. Gigabyte I wouldn't take for free. ROG is a brand for gays. MSI is good too.

>>105683165
EVGA doesn't make video cards anymore, their operations got priced out by NVIDIA's increasing margins.
Check different reviews to see how hot and loud different card models run.
ASUS cards are usually good but they charge a high premium.
MSI only cares about making good coolers for higher-margin cards.
Gigabyte is sort of in the middle, but they also don't mind speccing their cheapest (Windforce) cards to run louder.

>>105683199
TUF is overpriced asf for zoomer mid

Not that it matters but do you replace the middle alignment peg with a real standoff when installing your motherboard?

>>105683311
You're thinking of ROG

>>105683338

>>105683393
You want 16GB VRAM or not nigga

>>105683165
EVGA 3000 series cards are kinda shit

>buy fast speed 2x16gb ddr5 ram kit, later sell it and buy 4x16gb kit
>buy slow speed 2x16gb ddr5 ram kit, later buy the same kit and make it 4x16gb
as far as I know 4x kits make the speed way slower for some reason, so for the budget reasons is the second option better or am I retarded

>>105683480
Doing either is, if not retarded, not advisable at least. Better to act like your motherboard is 1DPC - buy what you need (or a little more) and sell it if/when you need to upgrade.

Question for those with experience with monitors:

>27'' screen, 1440p, no upscaling on Windows 11
VS
>32'' screen, 4K, with adequate upscaling on Windows 11

Which of these will give me more screen space to work with? I see that one of the advantages of 4K is that you get more "real estate", but let's be honest here, it's impossible to use native 4K on Windows, you need to make the operating system scale everything up, and I was trying to calculate if after this scaling, I will actually gain considerable real estate compared to 1440p.

>>105683416
for $650-700 i can get a 9070xt

>>105683525
And not have any useful features, yes

gonna buy this for my 7500f b650, retarded or not?
https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005007385383785.html?sku_id=12000048367862826&spm=a2g2w.productlist.search_results.1.224f6beeemlhlV

New:
>>105683597
>>105683597
>>105683597

>>105683480
> later sell it
Who will be buying used RAM? It's not a rare sought-after 4090 that increases in value.
I recently bought a 2x32GB CL28 kit that has the same capacity as 4x16GB but is faster.

>>105683009
if by chinese you mean Maxsun, Jginyue etc. they are not really worse than cheap models from the taiwanese four

>>105683810
whats wrong with used RAMs? They are one of the most reliable components

>>105677592
Fuck noctua, install deltas.