Thread 105673313

It's the best DE, no contest.
>uses sane desktop model with a taskbar with applications icons like Win 10
>looks good
>performs well
>does everything you need and is very kustomizable if wanted
>has native applications that are really good (Kmail, Kate, Elisa, Okular, Dolphin, Konsole etc. etc.), so you barely have to install any other software for generic stuff, Plasma covers most bases
>is often first to get features implemented, such as VRR and HDR

I had my reservations in the past, but I will say they have done very well with newer versions in getting it more stable, and to make it look better, which were the two issues I had with it.

They all have their own strengths and weaknesses.

>>105673362
except gnome

>>105673313 (OP)

kek

>>105673313 (OP)
>mogged by Cinnamon

didn't we have this same exact thread yesterday?

>>105673313 (OP)
>looks good
The main reason I don't use KDE is because it's so offensively ugly. That and for me it shits itself whenever you launch a program.

>>105673473
lmao what the fuck

>>105673432
Agreed! It only has strengths.

>>105673313 (OP)
>It's the best DE, no contest.
>>uses sane desktop model with a taskbar with applications icons like Win 10
>>looks good
>>performs well
>>does everything you need and is very kustomizable if wanted
>>has native applications that are really good (Kmail, Kate, Elisa, Okular, Dolphin, Konsole etc. etc.), so you barely have to install any other software for generic stuff, Plasma covers most bases
>>is often first to get features implemented, such as VRR and HDR
>
>I had my reservations in the past, but I will say they have done very w--
*krashses*

>>105673529
shout out to muh boi bruce3434
where ya at nigga

>>105673587
>where ya at nigga
he just disappeared, would like to know too where he is.

>>105673610
He goes by the name u/LvS on Reddit these days. Real name, Benjamin Otte. He is a GTK developer.

idk i enjoy i3 it does everything I need

>>105673473
how the fuck does that even happen

>>105673473
lol that's really happening
The reason is KDE is made by white mean and only shitskins are reading from left to right.

>>105673313 (OP)
don't forget
>devs are listening to user feedback
>they do regular dev jam to fix as many bugs as possible in a short time
>kde foundation is all about making kde good, no money laundering unlike with the gnome foundation
>no anti-white racism
>you don't get mogged by redhat employees when you ask a question
>your merge requests aren't automatically closed for no reason just for your work to be stolen by a redhat employee a few weeks/months later to justify his salary
>valve uses it for steamdeck, the only company that actually want desktop linux to succeed
it's the best community DE we have hands down, it's not perfect but it's the best we have by far in the linux world

>>105673574
your ESL meme is out of date, it no longer crashes. but keep trying

>>105674068
Also they're constantly fighting Wayland bullshit to make it somewhat usable. Only when KDE start involving in Wayland developement we got tearing support, VRR, HDR, global shortucts, PiP support, session management, icons that aren't desktop file specified, drm-lease (for VR), proper fractional scale, drag support for widgets. They're literally fighting for user features constantly facing opposition from GNOME faggots.

>>105673771
>The reason is KDE is made by white

>>devs are listening to user feedback
so just like gnome?
>>they do regular dev jam to fix as many bugs as possible in a short time
gnome doesn't need to do this because it is not a bugfest like kde
>>kde foundation is all about making kde good, no money laundering unlike with the gnome foundation
kde has no money to lauder
gnome earns money ethically via user donations
>>no anti-white racism
there is no racism in gnome
only support for minorities
>>you don't get mogged by redhat employees when you ask a question
redhat employees working on gnome gives me confidence that gnome is more polished than krashde
>>your merge requests aren't automatically closed for no reason just for your work to be stolen by a redhat employee a few weeks/months later to justify his salary
your shitty merge requests should be closed by every project
>>valve uses it for steamdeck, the only company that actually want desktop linux to succeed
no one uses steam deck in desktop mode for kde
valve only went with kde because they had steam vr support before gnome did
plus gayming is cringe anyways
>it's the best community DE we have hands down, it's not perfect but it's the best we have by far in the linux world
then why does no distro want to support kde as their flagship? ubuntu, fedora and suse default to gnome. rhel defauls to gnome. no one wants to use kde. you know why? because kde fucking sucks. and it uses the qt toolkit which is controlled by the evil qt company. kde will never win. it will always be the lil bro. the second class citizen. the #2. the krashde. the bloat. that is kde's destiny.
>>105674346
thank god gnome has no pajeets working on it

>>105674413
>gnome doesn't need to do this because it is not a bugfest like kde
Lmao
https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-Trash-Years-Old-Bug

>>105674413
>thank god gnome has no pajeets working on it
my point was that a open source project has the whole world working on it, should have said it too.
>>105674425
every software project has bugs, some more some less and let's be real here, KDE has more than less.

>>105674425
single bug does not equal bugfest like kde
nice try
>>105674425
shut up
pajeets not welcome
no pajeet code allowed
ban pajeet code just like ai-generated code
ai-generated code is better than pajeet code

>>105674413
>so just like gnome?
lmao no, the "what's the usecase" meme is there for a reason
>gnome doesn't need to do this because it is not a bugfest like kde
multiple time over the years I had to chroot to fix an ubuntu/arch/fedora install at work because gdm made the system crash at startup, no ctrl + alt + Fx support to fix it.
it never happened on the kde spin of these distro
>gnome earns money ethically via user donations
and they spend all of this on salary and outreach, the gnome foundation currently has no money btw, they had to fire the shaman to hire an actual human this time.
>there is no racism in gnome
yes there are, read the CoC, as clear as possible, if you're a caucasian and not a rh employee, you're not welcomed to contribute to the project, I don't make the rule my man.
>your shitty merge requests should be closed by every project
fixing segfault is usually a good thing
>no one uses steam deck in desktop mode for kde
does not matter, it's there and valve wants it to work, they're investing a lot into making kde works fine with money and engineer time.
>plus gayming is cringe anyways
multiple billions dollar business, your opinion does not matter.
>then why does no distro want to support kde as their flagship?
for historical reasons mostly and because rhel/ubuntu are among the most used distros and they default to gnome
>and it uses the qt toolkit which is controlled by the evil qt company.
lmao retard, gnome is made by ibm/rh
>the #2. the krashde. the bloat. that is kde's destiny.
kde growth is steady, gtk/gnome days are numbered because it's absolute Cnile dogshit

can we agree they're both bad

>>105673313 (OP)
*krashes*

>>105674505
>lmao no, the "what's the usecase" meme is there for a reason
every time ebassi asked this, he was in the right
>multiple time over the years I had to chroot to fix an ubuntu/arch/fedora install at work because gdm made the system crash at startup, no ctrl + alt + Fx support to fix it.
no one cares about what you had to do
you are retarded
i never had problems with gdm
gnome just werks
>and they spend all of this on salary and outreach
good
and that is why i happily donate to gnome
>yes there are, read the CoC, as clear as possible, if you're a caucasian and not a rh employee, you're not welcomed to contribute to the project, I don't make the rule my man.
there is no such rule
they protect minorities from white supremacists like you
this is a good thing
>fixing segfault is usually a good thing
retards like you cannot code
don't pretend like you ever got a pull request merged in any software project
>does not matter
it does matter
>multiple billions dollar business, your opinion does not matter
gayming is still cringe
>for historical reasons mostly and because rhel/ubuntu are among the most used distros and they default to gnome
so kde has been historically trash
lol
>lmao retard, gnome is made by ibm/rh
qt toolkit is proprietary trash
gtk is fully open source
kill yourself because you clearly don't know what you are talking about
>kde growth is steady, gtk/gnome days are numbered because it's absolute Cnile dogshit
what kde growth?
no real distro uses it as their flagship just like 20 years ago
lol
lmao, even

>>105674572
lmao weak bait

>>105674587
i accept your concession

>>105673486
>mogged by ugly, laggy gtk3 x11 slop with 1/10th as much customization, no HDR, godawful program suite, and most themes and extensions outdated

>>105673461
>>105674541
outdated kde5 meme award

>>105673313 (OP)
If KDE is so good, why is it #3?

I made a reddit account to use some linux subreddits. Then I clicked on the home feed button, and Reddit recommended me r/Malaysia, because people who share my interests apparently post there.

>>105674730
sexpats...

>>105674679
>bloatware
Okay sweetie :)

>>105673473
gnome would never have this issue because we decided that cluttering your desktop is for niggers.

>>105674751
>my outdated and crappy bloatware is better than your modern bloatware with more features

>>105673473
So this is the power of KDE Plasma? They were hyping up Plasma 6.4 for...this?!

I should have fucking known. Thanks for letting me know, anon. I was about to fall for the KDE bait. Now I know to never believe their hype.

Nice Dracula theme btw.

>>105673473
Now open the gnome bug tracker, nigger

>>105674825
I opened it and I saw your issue where you where crying about custom theming in libadwaita apps. Then they banned your ass. I lol'd at that part.

>>>105674825(You)
>I opened it and I saw your issue where you where crying about custom theming in libadwaita apps. Then they banned your ass. I lol'd at that part.

>>105674688
>She thinks KDE 6 doesn't KRASH

>>105675068
kek
you got triggered so it is true
no themes for you bitch
no unixporn points for ya either
learn to code if you want "customization"

>>105674346
meanwhile pic related is what a typical gnome user looks like

>>>105675068(You)
>kek
>you got triggered so it is true
>no themes for you bitch
>no unixporn points for ya either
>learn to code if you want "customization"

>>105675082
I use it and it doesn't DOE

does the digital clock still look like shit if it's on a left/right side panel

>he opened his ebussy folder
kek

Okay, serious post here.

I installed Fedora KDE Plasma on a Virtual Machine yesterday. Ngl, I was excited to try it out. I really was. I have never daily drived KDE before.

Then I saw that Firefox still had the infamous "korners" bug! How?! Didn't KDE fix that long ago? Honestly I just closed the VM right after I saw that. Is this Fedora's fault? Because I didn't change anything, I wanted to try out the default settings.

I also don't like how KDE has the top corners rounded but the bottom corners are not. Either round all four corners or don't round them at all! This shit is ugly and distracting.

Any real KDEbros here? Advice? Don't tell me to install a custom theme from a random-who, I hate that. I want to fix this shit for Breeze. I want to give KDE a proper shot.

Serious post.

>>105675186
If it's a serious post, you should know KDE is not suitable for real world use. It's too buggy, too many moving parts and zero cohesion.

>>105675186
kekaroo
kde is just shit
no one will help you lil bro
not your personal tech support forum

>>105675246
It is a serious post. If KDE is not suitable for real world use then Desktop Linux isn't either. There are only two desktop environments worth running in 2025. GNOME and KDE. GNOME is objectively worse than KDE. If you say otherwise then I will just ignore your next post.
>>105675247
Not interested in your shitposting nonsense.

>>105675270
There is a reason why GNOME is the default desktop. It works. Doesn't matter what the NEETs in /g/ brainwashed you into believing.
SLES? GNOME
Ubuntu? GNOME
RedHat? GNOME
KDE is only used in steamdeck machines, but it's so buggy, steamOS does not use KDE's windows compositor, they use their in-house compositor.
Feel free to ignore the inconvenient truth.

>>105673473
KDE is a joke.

>>105673473

I replicated the bug, its true lmao

>>105675126
It worked fine on even on 6.3 (so long as you copy the same pixel width as Windows 10's side taskbar)

>>105675270
>then Desktop Linux isn't either
you're so close to understanding it bro

>>105673313 (OP)
Yep, it's the best by far. I have no idea how these "people" use gnome, unity, or those other macfag clones.

>>105675126
no idea, I'm not retarded enough to use a left/right side panel

>>105675459
still not using LTSCope
complaining about muh corners is pure autism anyway when plasma has actual bugs in it

>>105675976
>wanting more horizontal space is retarded
are you the one shilling GNOME ITT

>>105676002
Horizontal space is more precious than vertical space.

>>105675123
Mine krashes quite frequently.

>>105674346
The jeets just make screen recordings of new features, not Koding

>>105673313 (OP)
>It's the best DE, no contest.
not for my use case (a desktop environment that isnt fucking hideous and disgusting to look at)

>>105673313 (OP)
>best DE
>krashes every 5 minutes
>Themes can delete your home
If this is the best loonix can do I'll go back to windows, at least it doesn't krash and I get to use useful programs

>>105673313 (OP)
>Left click on the taskbar 5 times in quick successions
>Krash
It happened to me just yesterday

>>105676519
>newfag regurgitates memes to try to fit in
next you'll cry about systemd

>>105676581
kek
>>105676601
KDE cucks are the biggest in-denial cucks in 4chan

>>105673313 (OP)
I don't understand the shitposting obsession over KDE. I run plasma and don't have problems.

>>105676149
user error o algo

>>105676739
GNOME cucks will shamelessly lie about KDE because they know it is better. There is even an AI-jeet Vtuber dedicated to shitting on KDE while claiming GNOME supremacy. It is a special kind of mental illness.

>>105673473
How do they do it?

>>105673561
Have a (You) to know your bait was successful, I guarantee you're also using KDE.

>>105675082
It does krash, but when it does krash it has the ability to come back then keep going. Meaning it doesn't matter nearly as much if it krashes now.

>>105676906
I checked the patch and it was a surprisingly subtle bug caused by how Qt works. Still funny tho.

>>105673313 (OP)
kope, I'm sticking with GNOME.

>>105677042
either join the riced openbox master race or get rekt

>>105677129
I hope GNOME kills all you tinkertrannies

>>105677137
based

>>105677042
based vanilla GNOME gigachad

>>105677042
Your adblock? Your 4chanx?

>>105677137
gnome is literally THE tranny app launcher, if I wanted a fucking shitphone I'd be using a shitphone and not an actual computer

>>105677177
gnome is proud to be tranny
tranny power ya bitch
pride month
gnome is NOT tinkertranny though
big fucking difference
don't get uppity

>>105677042
What does this icon mean? Accessibility? What disability do you have, friend?

>>105677198
trvke

>>105677198
>>105677220
nice puppet show

>>105677213
Will he reply? I'm actually interested in this myself.

>>105677213
>>105677253
he is probably just using text scaling because gnome cucks still don't have good fractional scaling support
if his display needs something like 125% scaling then fractional scaling on gnome makes text and symbolic icons more blurry than text scaling because gnome lol

>>105677213
Is the accesobility menu, I use it to activate the magnifier.

>>105677198
openbox+tint2+spacefm+jgmenu or even Joe's WM does everything a desktop needs, portable to all *nix systems, doesn't enforce redditland usage, has no plans to enforce redditland usage, and runs well on anything with a video port, and doesn't tie you to Tinyhat

>>105677277
all tinkertranny software
it will fucking DIE just like x11 and just like yer precious lil xlibre
and just like yer mum
lol
lmao, even

I use to flip between gnome and kde and I find myself going to kde less and less. gnome seems to consistently improve in all the things KDE excelled at and I can't even tell that much of a difference anymore other than KDE's VRR seems bugged on newer kernels.

>>105677290
you're literally tinyhat shill, your opinion means nothing, thanks for wrecking your own argument blatantly and in front of all the real people on this board, have fun going back to preddit and showing all your predditor buddies this convo.

>>105677327
you use xlibre lmao

>>105677227
coperald

>>105677290
Luddite tinkertranny destroying TRVTH TSARBOMBA

>>>105677290
>you're literally tinyhat shill, your opinion means nothing, thanks for wrecking your own argument blatantly and in front of all the real people on this board, have fun going back to preddit and showing all your predditor buddies this c- ACK!

>>105675336
The fact that Valve uses KDE is all I need to know about how bad it is. Valve code is so fucking bad. Their CEF browser still causes x86 split locks, their steam input library literally causes mouse performance to tank FPS because they're fucking stupid and lazy. Steam overlay causes the main window to steal focus from your game for some stupid reason randomly.

>>105677338
reason's to use xlibre:
every program just works
copy-paste works every time
drag n drop works every time
multi-monitor VRR just works
screenshare works every time
no linux system-call dependencies
dev actually reponds and posts fix if there's an issue
10-20% better performance
no raging hormonal troons


reasons to use wayland:
half-assed HDR support
the billionaire says you HAVE to use it
"xorg is dead you have to deal wi- ACK"

>>105673473
Works on my machine but I don't even use desktop icons like a retarded nigger so this isn't even my problem to begin with

>>105677042
Damn, touchpad scrolling kinda sucks on Epiphany. Shame.

>>105674346
At the KDE India conf are mostly/only Indians? I'm shocked, shocked! to see Indians in that picture.

>>105673716
Nobody tested it, probably. I doubt there are many people who use desktop icons.

>>105673313 (OP)

Why do Linux people talk about Wayland like it is come modern software. It was designed in 2008. It is already very old and no-longer fits in with the modern world.

>>105673473
Is this a gayland issue because it works on my X11 system?

>>105673313 (OP)
>>105673473
I think it's safe to say what's still the best DE

>>105674531
Then we would have to find a worthy alternative to recommend to people.

is kde and wayland STATE OF THE ART? should i install that slop because it's simply the best?

>>105677277
>and doesn't tie you to Tinyhat
So it has it's own display manager, desktop standards, IPC protocol, compositor, audio system and bootscreen? lol
Until someone makes something entirely separate from scratch we're still chained to Redhat.

>>105681334
I think it's time to deprecate Wayland. We need something more modern

>>105681631

Wayland never took over the market and is now out of date. They binned the network side of X11 because "networks dont matter" and its taken Wayland so long to get anywhere that now networks are again important (these things always go in cycles). There are a dozen problems with wayland in the modern environment of hardware and use cases.

>>105673313 (OP)
I used KDE full time for a while. It is good. But you will run into some glitches and maybe a crash 1x per month. I am now using MATE. This is a work laptop and I need shit to work. XFCE is good too but Im doing MATE ATM.

>>105681542
Cinnamon.