What the hell is wrong with GNOME?

>>105675081 (OP)
If you go to #mpv on librea.chat there is a massive autistic faggot in the channel that will defend wayland for hours upon hours. He parrots all the usual FreeDesktop talking points about Xorg and won't shut the fuck up. It's really funny.

You don't even have to poke him or post bait. If you simply ask for help with mpv and say you're using it on X he flies into an incoherent rage no matter what time or day or night it is.

>>105675081 (OP)
Link?
>>105675118
Name?

imagine for a second you don't use linux and don't have to care about any of this autistic drivel

Reminder

>>105675081 (OP)
works on my machine

>>105675271
stop lying

>>105675178
>>105675198
>frognigger is retarded AGAIN

>>105675081 (OP)
>GNOME has no server side decoration
Why do X cucks lie like this?

Also server side decoration is utter garbage and it offers nothing but a waste of vertical space.

>>105675130
It's the mpv tranny crashing out on his github about muh ebul GNOME before xhe got kicked out of his own project and faded into irrelevancy.
MPV continues to work on GNOME just fine.

>>105675679
are you stupid?
op is a post from mpv help
the non decoration clearly is context specific to mpv, i.e.: [my issue is that running mpv inside] gnome wayland has no server side decorations.
if you read a little further you can see some extra flags for mpv to get around the issue, showing indeed the context is as an issue a user may experience with mpv in this situation.

you shouldn't just read something before you reply to it, you should also take a second to try and understand it too.

>>105675716
??
I did not use any extra flags to "get around" that issue. This issue simply does not exist.
mpv tranny purposefully disabled GNOME SSD only to cry for attention on his github.
The statement "GNOME wayland has not server side decorations" is factually untrue.
If it can work for Handbrake, it can work for mpv
If it can work for VLC it can work for mpv
Zero excuses, stop throwing temper tantrum.

>>105675118
Ah yes, another day in troonix wonderland.

>>105675081 (OP)
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>>105675741
Mpv has since retracted this statement and admitted they were wrong

>>105675820
>Mpv has since banned everyone that could code and been taken over by freedesktop fags
Fixed that for you

>>105675830
lmao oh yeah? So how come I never hear the banned programmers forking and creating their media player?
Stop playing the victim card.

>>105675081 (OP)
>What the hell is wrong with GNOME?
I dont know, but is Wayland LXQT good?

>>105675679
>it offers nothing but a waste of vertical space.
Vertical space that Gnome also wastes with their retarded 5head bars and nearly empty top bar

>>105675081 (OP)
The developer who wrote all that crap was kicked out of the mpv project. This is what happens when you talk shit about GNOME.

mpv developers and contributors are pedophiles and liberals in a private tracker cabal circlejerk

>>105675679
>>105675741
>does not know how window decorations work
>writes bullshit anyways and thinks he is smart
Jesus christ..."Factually untrue"...Ask a GNOME dev on a GNOME matrix channel. "Does GNOME support server side window decorations?". They will tell you "No" because that is factually true.
>B-But MUH APP HAS WINDOW DECO-
It is a GTK app you stupid fuck. You have no idea what you are talking about. Zero. Not every app in the world uses GTK. Holy shit you're retarded and you're doing this in multiple threads.

Here, just read this.
https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-408
It has a section specifically titled "Client side window decorations". Please learn something for god's sake instead of spouting complete nonsense.

>>105676204
>b-b-but its GTK, so GNOME suddenly has SSD now!
LMAO seethe more troon.

>>105676120
>Headerbars full of widgets are still smaller than krashde's SSD+ribbon+app menu+app bar which takes 1/4 of the whole program

>>105676204
Gnome supports ssd for x11 clients

>>105676228
What is this then?
>https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/217
and this
>https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1836
Huh faggot?
What about your screenshot shows server side decorations? Do you even know what server side decorations are? Holy shit you're fucking stupid. You got proven wrong and you still choose to remain dumb and ignorant. No wonder you are a GNOME user.
>>105676243
This is true. We are talking about Wayland. GNOME is about to drop X11.

>>105676254
>>https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/217
>and this
>>https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1836
Optional and useless wayland extensions.
>What about your screenshot shows server side decorations?
Notice the top part of the windows you blindfolded nigger.
> Do you even know what server side decorations are?
Do YOU know what SSD is? Kill yourself nigger.

>GNOME is about to drop X11.
??
Do you know the difference between X11 session and X11 client? Fucking dumbass nigger

This is hilarious. GNOME cuck makes a complete mockery of himself writing false dumb shit. Someone corrects him and he doubles down on his false dumb shit and starts using buzzwords like "troon". GNOME has most of the tranny devs on Linux.

>>105676283
We were talking about support for SSD on GNOME Wayland. You changed the goalpost to applications running on the XWayland session. Nicely done. Everyone still laughed at you.

POSIX is the new punk when will we have a large cool group with a conviction to it so we can finally get rid of the GNU menace once and for all.

>>105676283
>Optional and useless wayland extensions.
You are such a fucking retard. Holy shit. GNOME niggers are the most low IQ braindead neanderthals I have ever seen and you must be the lowest one among them.

>>105676298
>>105676310
kek, next he will say gnome on wayland supports the layer shell protocol and then show rofi running on xwayland
lmfao

>>105675198
Usecase for thumbnails in the file upload dialog?

>>105676330
For real. Normies don't even know about the gtk4-layer-shell protocol but even normies on Linux know that GNOME doesn't support SSD on Wayland. E-celeb Jewtubers must have made hundreds of videos on this. Either this guy is a special kind of retard or he was intentionally trolling.

>>105675081 (OP)
I use mplayer with the xv output on x11. I'm never switching to Wayland.

>>105676330
kek

>>105676330
gnome users unironically do this
i have seen hundreds of posts like
>halp im tryna run wofi and rofi on gnome but it doesn't work!!
https://reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/1l7i2n9/wofi_on_gnome/ is just 2 weeks old
i always get a good laugh out of such posts
rofi will unironically run fine on gnome on xwayland
you will need to install the wayland fork of rofi to make it not work on gnome
the problem with xwayland is that anytime some applies fractional scaling on their display xwayland apps get blurry as fuck
maybe gnome fixed it now like kde did but it is probably a secret hidden gsetting as usual

>>105676330
>Layer shell protocol
You faggots will make Wayland as a whole deprecate it by using it for shit like drop down terminals. It was made for compositors to get shell shit support not for random third parties to add bullshit to your desktop. It will only take 1 program to abuse it before Wayland kills it (discord overlay, zoom mouse tracking)

>>105676490
The thing is, I thought a popular application like VLC would surely have native Wayland support by now. Installed it from Flathub and it turns out, nope. It uses Xwayland by default. Jesus christ. How are people still using that shit instead of MPV? And he has the gall to make fun of "X cucks"? This might be the most retarded poster on /g/ I have encountered this year.

>>105676491
Why is it Wayland's business how I use my computer?
I don't use Wayland at all, or Quake style drop down shells, but if I wanted one to replace having so many rxvt windows that's something to embrace.

>>105676490
>maybe gnome fixed it now like kde did
yes they added the same feature to allows apps to scale themselves
competition from kde is pushing gnome to be better
without kde gnome would be even shittier

>>105676527
apparently native wayland support is already there on vlc 4.0
it is just not packaged yet for flathub or distro repositories
https://github.com/flathub/org.videolan.VLC/issues/267

>>105676561
Cool. Good to know. Although MPV is still way better.

>>105676491
>oh no we have to remove this extremely useful feature because someone used it in a way i don't like
i wouldn't piss on gayland tards if they were on fire

>>105676491
GNOME is not the trans-queen of Wayland. Every other Wayland compositor out there supports this. GNOME can be a special snowflake if it wants to be.

>>105675081 (OP)
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>>105676298
dhhuurrrreennnrnrrrrrrr is there a use case for Wayland not sucking dick? Is there a use case for nvidia? is there a use case for my penis? is there a use case for soap? is there a use case for a toilet? is there a use case for using soap after I get off the toilet?

>>105676330
lol'd at this but he wouldn't know what rofi is lmao

>>105675820
No. Mutter just fixed their shit for the most part so that stuff was removed. I don't know why OP pulled out a screenshot from over 5 years ago or something. I guess to make this bait thread but it's weird.

>>105676589
The protocol that was written by drew devault btw, was made specifically for adding shit like docks to sway. When programs abuse protocols they get stricter. Gnome has nothing to do with this they said they don't care from the start because extensions do that for them and abstained. You retards will make the protocol so gimped it will be ass for docks on WMs

>>105676618
Stop bumbling nonsense. You are the only gimp here.
>Gnome has nothing to do with this they said they don't care from the start because extensions do that for them and abstained.
There is a comment from Matthias Claisen specificially saying that he doesn't want the layer shell protocol on GNOME because he doesn't want users the ability to use 3rd party panels and docks on GNOME. You are not bullshitting anyone.

For any normies reading this...This means you cannot use, for example, rofi-wayland on GNOME because GNOME decided to "gimp" their compositor. Extensions cannot fix this. No more customization for you. No, you cannot use that sexy rofi config you saw on that one Unixporn post. Because GNOME devs specifically made sure that what you are trying to do could not be done. Yes this was done out of spite.

>>105676298
>We were talking about support for SSD on GNOME Wayland.
And I can see SSD on GNOME Wayland. Your mental gymnastics is hilarious.
>>105676330
I honestly do not know what rofi is or does.

>>105676667
normie here
is this why i cannot use waybar on gnome?
i hate the gnome top panel and i hid it using just perfection
in x11 i used to use polybar on gnome

>>105676618
>When programs abuse protocols they get stricter.
That's not abusive, it just means the protocol isn't useless. The irony that Drew made it is palpable.
>You retards will make the protocol so gimped it will be ass for docks on WMs
Nobody will do this except the Wayland faggots, because they will look for any contrived excuse they can get to be arrogant cunts.

>>105676692
Yes, that is another good example. Sorry, no Waybar for you. Don't like it? Don't use GNOME.

>>105676706
why do this? what do gnome devs get out of blocking features like this?

>>105676603
>he wouldn't know what rofi is
Turns out you were right
>>105676710
Out of spite. I don't know what else to tell you. I'm not even being a dick. They literally hate user customization. Hang around in their communities for a while. They mock users like you if you ever post on Unixporn. Pic related is a picture I took while randomly browsing their Matrix channel on phone one day. You may like GNOME because it looks like MacOS but GNOME doesn't like you. I think Unixporn is cringe myself but I don't have a gigantic hate boner for users who like customization.

>>105676748
>two of them have the trans flag
every fucking time

>>105676748
>when all you have is a computer and you don't have dev skills you become a "power user"
Holy fucking based. We call them "nocoders".

>>105676778
I shouldn't have to code to accomplish basic customizations in an open source OS and it's embarrassing that linuxoids don't realize this.

I remember some micro stutter with gnome wayland when playing video years ago. It really was ass.

>>105677210
Oh yeah? I remember KDE made barping and farting noises when playing music two months. It was literally ass. I can make stuff up too you fucking dumbass nigger.

>>105677231
Kek, what the fuck? Why are you so mad?

>>105677234
He got BTFO'd by these anons >>105676330 >>105676204 and got made fun of. Please understand.

>>105675118
Is these people real, or are we experiencing some form of AI social experience? Why they're a stan of a display protocol? or a programming language?