/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread - /g/ (#105677909) [Archived: 752 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:35:50 AM No.105677909
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:58:14 AM No.105677992
New to Linux, installed cachyOS yesterday. I wanna use a program called Hayase (essentially a torrent client and media player combined) and I'm having trouble trying to get it to work with the ufw firewall. Is there no way to just allow an application full access in ufw? Seems like the only thing I can do is allow specific ports. Hayase being a torrent client (I assume) uses as many ports as it can. I did try setting Default Incoming Policy to Allow (from Ignore) and the app did work properly so I know it's a firewall problem.
Replies: >>105678046 >>105678059 >>105678380 >>105689802
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:09:01 AM No.105678046
>>105677992
>wants a firewall
>doesn't want a firewall
make up your mind what you want. To get networking for a specific programm, run it in its own namespace, where you can have its own firewall rules
Replies: >>105689040
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:11:38 AM No.105678059
>>105677992
Find out what port ufw is blocking using journalctl. Open that port in ufw to incoming traffic. Set that port to static in your gay piece of software.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:33:48 AM No.105678147
has anyone used elementary os? is it any good?
Replies: >>105678195
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:41:35 AM No.105678195
>>105678147
Not too many people here use ubuntu or ubuntu derivatives.
Replies: >>105679310
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:57:29 AM No.105678280
Why gortillion disteos exists. Mint, ubuntu, nix, endevour

Why don't people just tweek the debian amd install what they want including DE. Qt for lightweight etc
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:12:39 AM No.105678353
>>105678280
because newfags fall for the distrohopping meme

they dont understand that every distro outside of debian, arch, or fedora are just derived from one of those three with a random DE slapped on top and a bunch of random configuration edits that's supposed to be "better" than everyone else's

spend enough time with linux and most people realize that and just put together a config that works for their use case with debian, arch, or fedora like normal people
Replies: >>105678786 >>105693343
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:17:26 AM No.105678380
>>105677992
So I found a better solution similar to how it works on windows. I just set Default Incoming Policy to Allow and use OpenSnitch for prompts whenever an app tries to use the internet.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:28:52 AM No.105678448
>>105678380
>Default Incoming Policy
>prompts whenever an app tries to use the internet.
Those 2 have nothing in common, anon.
Replies: >>105678578
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:50:28 AM No.105678578
>>105678448
I basically wanted to whitelist apps for internet access whenever that app tries to use the internet for the first time through a firewall prompt.
Replies: >>105681591
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:59:15 AM No.105678614
I do not understand why Bazzite ships with rpm installed Steam and Lutris?
It is a hassle for the normie to setup any flatpak to work with anything outside of Flatpak.

Why no just go Flatpak all the way? It all just werks.
I really do not understand.

As it is it is much easier to install normal Fedora and just go flatpak on everything. I though Bazzite was supposed to be the Windows 10 of Linux
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:59:16 AM No.105678616
>>105677816
It's funny how Linux users posture as hackers in full control of their computerโ€“as stewards who take on the personal responsibility of keeping up to date with informationโ€“when it's plainly obvious they don't do any fucking research. The contradictory and irrelevant advice people gave in the last thread about using an existing drive with games on it is a prime example, as is retards claiming KDE Plasma is "bloated". I can't imagine anybody in good faith posting half the retarded advice you see posted on Linux forumsโ€”I am not kidding when I say that Windows users who are currently doing cursory reading about Linux probably understand Linux better than most fucking Linux users.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:14:14 AM No.105678692
>>105678614
>Why no just go Flatpak all the way? It all just werks.
Because it doesn't "just work". The flatpak version of Steam historically had a fuckton of issues. It's better to use something that actually just works instead of taking a risk of users experiencing random flatpak-related bugs in Steam.

>I though Bazzite was supposed to be the Windows 10 of Linux
It's not. Bazzite is supposed to actually work and provide a good user experience.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:20:20 AM No.105678720
need a devuan fork under LMDE for non-systemed users
Replies: >>105682389
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:27:53 AM No.105678757
I give up.
I give up trying to rice sway and probably any other wm in the future
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:35:17 AM No.105678786
>>105678353
>because newfags fall for the distrohopping meme
It's my favorite meme. Their ultimate quest for the "it just werks" experience is pretty amusing to observe from the sidelines.
Even the major distros you mention are more or less the same outside of their package update policy and how likely they are to do something "funny" (I'll never forgive canonical for putting ads on my newfag ass start menu)
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:59:10 AM No.105678895
not a fan of this bazeet spam. have some variety.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:19:55 AM No.105678979
>>105678280
The only "real" distros are Debian, Arch, Fedora, openSUSE. Everything else is either proprietary, niche, source-based, or irrelevant.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:20:24 AM No.105678982
>hear wayland is more performant than x11
>log out and switch to wayland
>libreoffice is now laggy
What did /g/ mean by this?
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:28:57 AM No.105679028
>>105678982
>Source: My Ass
Replies: >>105679043
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:31:31 AM No.105679043
>>105679028
Is it that hard to believe?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:32:38 AM No.105679052
>>105677909 (OP)
What's a distro that has relatively up-to-date packages, is stable and well maintained?
Replies: >>105679067 >>105679226 >>105688164
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:34:52 AM No.105679067
>>105679052
Manjaro KDE and Endeavour KDE.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:34:57 AM No.105679068
>>105678614
>>105678692
The Steam flatpak on flathub is not official so I wouldn't use it personally. Also I think Valve only officially offers a deb download of Steam for Linux. Maybe Bazzite has just repackaged this as an rpm.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:43:35 AM No.105679112
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Can anyone tell me what the fuck happened? I installed Linux Mint a few days ago and I tried booting into it today and I just get this screen. I installed it on a separate NVME SSD, it worked perfectly for a few days and now this?
Replies: >>105679222 >>105679284
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:53:25 AM No.105679175
>absolutely nothing happened but it has changed
in practically every case, something happened, the problem is that people asking this don't know what things might be relevant to the issue
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:57:32 AM No.105679194
>>105678614
Perhaps it's because of the performance impact flatpak's security features have.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:03:45 PM No.105679214
>>105678982
If it's fixed by QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb (uses xwayland instead) then it's yet another half finished wayland software.
Replies: >>105681727
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:05:43 PM No.105679222
>>105678280
The whole point of a distribution is to be an OS which is ready to use out of the box, for a specific use-case.
As most users have their own preferences, it just leads to there being a bunch of distros out of necessity. Many people wouldn't really want to have 1 single 16GB .iso file where they have to pick and choose everything during the install process.
>Why don't people just tweek the debian amd install what they want including DE
Because the average end user doesn't want to fuck around with that.

>>105679112
Your bootloader got fucked by something. Either you did something in your BIOS, or if you're dual booting your other OS fucked something up.
I believe the live USB of Linux Mint has an option to repair unbootable Mint systems. You can try that.
Replies: >>105679245
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:06:45 PM No.105679226
>>105679052
https://bazzite.gg/
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:11:04 PM No.105679245
>>105679222
Yeah I'll just go back to windows.

Year of the Linux desktop.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:16:37 PM No.105679274
>>105678692
I have been using Steam flatpak for a while now and my only issue is that I am too retarded to have it load my mangohud.conf file.
Doesn't matter what I do, always loads the default config from somewhere, cant even find it on my system lol.

I know the "official" version for Steam is only over apt and only supports ubuntu, but it works in every distro and otherwise there are no issues with flatpak Steam atm. Just hate to have the entire system be a mish mash of rpm/flatpak/snap. So I just stick with one and Flatpak just has everything
Replies: >>105684731
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:16:52 PM No.105679278
>>105679245
Nobody cares.
Replies: >>105679283
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:17:43 PM No.105679283
>>105679278
no one asked if you cared faggot
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:17:49 PM No.105679284
>>105679112
>he fell for the dual boot meme and bricked is bootloader
tale as old as time.

Also would't happen with a real distro like Fedora
Replies: >>105679415
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:17:54 PM No.105679285
>>105679245
>>105679245
The person you are talking to is a retard. Linux is 90+% the same no matter the distro: same kernel, same drivers, and mostly the same software. You can really just install whatever.
Replies: >>105679309
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:21:27 PM No.105679309
>>105679285
>The person you are talking to is a retard
Tell me where I'm wrong, retard.
>Linux is 90+% the same no matter the distro: same kernel, same drivers, and mostly the same software. You can really just install whatever.
And? That last 10% matters a lot to the end user.
Replies: >>105681331
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:21:30 PM No.105679310
>>105678195
>Mint isn't an Ubuntu dervative
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:22:38 PM No.105679317
>>105678280
Debian is typically a few years out of date.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:25:57 PM No.105679327
>>105678614
>Why no just go Flatpak all the way? It all just werks.
Because it doesn't.
Flatpak is notorious for access issues and often laughable in size.
Replies: >>105679350 >>105679431
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:29:52 PM No.105679350
>>105679327
>size
It's not 2010 anymore. Even my shitty 6 year old laptop has enough storage to handle every app being installed as a flatpak or appimage and every game being in it's own wine prefix.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:31:55 PM No.105679359
What's the large non meme distros that are actually relevant and won't lose support when the troon dev commits 41%?
Replies: >>105679384
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:32:49 PM No.105679364
>>105678280
>Why don't people just tweek the debian amd install what they want including DE. Qt for lightweight etc
True although Debian isn't the only option of course. But yeah you can just install Debian or Ubuntu or Fedora etc then change the DE or whatever else you want.

>>105679245
Linux is very easy to use if your IQ is above 50.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:38:01 PM No.105679384
>>105679359
You can just use Bazzite. Most of it's devs are white men who are just pandering to troons because they think that's what gaymers want.
Even if the whole distro commits 41% you can rebase it back onto Fedora Kinoite because of how atomic distros work.
Replies: >>105679391
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:39:10 PM No.105679391
>>105679384
>blablahblah
sounds extremely gay, guess I'll stay on mint forever
Replies: >>105679418
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:40:16 PM No.105679398
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Have any of you used Box64 or Box86? They allow you to run x86/x64 Linux programs on different architectures, e.g. ARM (such as a Raspberry Pi) or RISC-V

I'm on a Raspberry Pi. Apparently this thing can run proper x86 games if you configure it properly. So far I managed to get Node for x86_64 running on my Pi although it sometimes crashes. I'm now trying to get something else running.

I assume nearly all of you are on an x64 system though so you would have no need for this.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:42:26 PM No.105679415
>>105679284
>tale as old as time.
So you're telling me trannix breaks even when it's installed on a completely separate SSD?

Why would anyone ever use this piece of shit OS? I literally spent $40 on this shit because people said it was a bad idea to run two OS on the same SSD, so I bought a separate one, now it's "oh you need a completely separate machine if you want it to work"
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:42:48 PM No.105679418
>>105679391
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:45:00 PM No.105679431
>>105679327
That is an issue I agree with, even as a flatpak-enjoyer.
If you install Steam games not in its default folder, but in "/home/Games/Steam" you need to grant the Steam flatpak access to that folder.
It is easy to do, but only if you know what the issue even is.
There is no error message, no popup to ask if you want to allow it. Pretty user unfriendly.
Replies: >>105680085
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:45:04 PM No.105679432
>>105679415
>breaks even when it's installed on a completely separate SSD?
No.
>Why would anyone ever use this piece of shit OS?
Because it works.
>you need a completely separate machine if you want it to work
Not really. But if you're using Windows you should just unplug the Linux SSD before booting into Windows.

Windows often randomly deletes the Linux bootloader after updating or trying to open a drive.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:46:01 PM No.105679436
>>105679415
I mean works for me, but I am also only semi retarded
Replies: >>105679448
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:46:44 PM No.105679439
About to install Arch, how do I install KDE from this thing? plasma-meta or plasma?
Replies: >>105679601 >>105681477
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:49:02 PM No.105679448
>>105679432
>No.
Then why did it break when it was installed on a completely different SSD?
>Because it works.
Evidently not.
>>105679432
>But if you're using Windows you should just unplug the Linux SSD before booting into Windows.
Sounds like it doesn't just work, also lol "Open your PC and remove the shit hobby OS so it doesn't brick itself before you boot into the OS you need to use for basic functionality"
>>105679436
kys
Replies: >>105679462
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:52:37 PM No.105679462
>>105679448
>Windows does something malicious
>"It's Linux Mint that's wrong here and doesn't work!!!"
You're retarded. Kys.
Replies: >>105679502
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 12:58:30 PM No.105679502
>>105679462
Windows didn't do anything, your hobby OS just shits itself because its built by people who do it for free
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:01:57 PM No.105679519
>>105679502
>implying microsoft pajeets and AI generated code is higher quality just because they charge you for the OS
ok, kid
Replies: >>105679524
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:03:13 PM No.105679524
>>105679519
>muh pajeet
>windows DOESN'T shit itself like linux
whats the real pajeet OS?
Replies: >>105679531 >>105684237
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:06:30 PM No.105679531
>>105679524
>windows DOESN'T shit itself like linux
false
Replies: >>105679556
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:11:31 PM No.105679556
>>105679531
looks like linux just shit itself for that dude
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:20:29 PM No.105679601
>>105679439
>plasma, kde-utilities, kde-system, kde-graphics, ffmpegthumbs
This is my usual KDE installing set.
Replies: >>105679728
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:29:24 PM No.105679642
>>105679502
If you're calling Linux a hobby OS, it obviously isn't, given that many enterprises use it

I think you're just too stupid to use it
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:45:07 PM No.105679728
>>105679601
thanks anon
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:47:37 PM No.105679746
>>105679642
>be me
>have a few sub-90 IQ friends
>literal idiots who flunk high school math and other science subjects
>people who dropped out of college year 1 because they couldn't even pass 30% of exams, if they even got to college
>they literally work in call centers, warehouses or as garbage men
>if you try to have intelligent conversations with some of them you'd think to yourself "holy shit, this thing is what I imagine a caveman to be"
>none of them ever assembled their own PC or even installed Windows
>yet they managed to install and use Bazzite and Nobara and have no issues on those distros
>some of them even used Linux Mint (the alleged "broken distro") for years before switching away from it due to it being too outdated to play video games
>one of them even had the same "grub" issue anon is describing, but managed to fix it with the Linux Mint live USB which just auto-repairs the system for you
You don't have to be smart to use Linux.
Replies: >>105679766 >>105680239
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:51:20 PM No.105679766
>>105679746
>You don't have to be smart to use Linux.
True. But perhaps the seething anon is just a lot, lot dumber than the average person.
Replies: >>105679781 >>105680239
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:53:28 PM No.105679781
>>105679766
I refuse to believe that because he'd be filtered by installing an SSD and flashing an iso and booting from it
Replies: >>105680239
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 1:53:36 PM No.105679783
>>105679642
>faggot autist compares sever and desktop Linux

it's so tiring bros
Replies: >>105679827
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:01:32 PM No.105679827
>>105679783
You're a faggot autist? Okay
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:18:27 PM No.105679952
This whole firmware split fuckup makes me think arch is done for. What's a good distro for up to date packaging?
Replies: >>105679986 >>105688094
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:20:14 PM No.105679963
>use lutris
>recreates drives in wine that link to my host system no matter how many times i delete them
>use bottles
>launch options straight up don't work
is there a game launcher program that just fucking works because I am pulling my hair out trying to use these absolute dogshit programs
Replies: >>105680025 >>105680221 >>105681451
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:24:54 PM No.105679986
>>105679952
fuck up?
arch has never has a policy against manual interventions, the fact your post suggests you used it for some time without needing one is testament to how stable it is despite not really guaranteeing that either
that's really the beauty of arch, it's somehow the right balance of updating things really fast and being stable enough to not feel like a beta tester
Replies: >>105680004
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:26:25 PM No.105679995
is there a way in kde plasma to force an application to ignore the system font? seems that theres no way to use a dumb hipster font without it bleeding into applications and making them unusable
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:27:47 PM No.105680004
>>105679986
I don't care about the manual part. But they broke shit with the split. Amd drm broke, nvidia shit the bed, bluetooth and wifi issues everywhere. All to save a few megs and make the system less plug-n-play. Just retarded change for the sake of change. Never a good sign.
Replies: >>105680343 >>105688141
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:33:14 PM No.105680025
>>105679963
>recreates drives in wine that link to my host system no matter how many times i delete them
If you're using the flatpak version you can just block it's access to your user directory
>launch options straight up don't work
Whut? Which game and which options?
Replies: >>105680194
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:44:05 PM No.105680085
>>105679431
I use flatseal to manage application rights.
Replies: >>105680361
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:51:44 PM No.105680151
Is the color accuracy setting in KDE works now? I wish I was kidding but when I used it in early 6.3 it bricked my entire system
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:59:37 PM No.105680194
>>105680025
was running a setup EXE for a cracked windows game with disabled network access. launch options were firejail --net=none --noprofile %command%, but for some inexplicable reason it ignores the first argument and executes as firejail --noprofile %command%.
I switched to using bubblewrap instead of firejail and it's now working so I'll stick with bottles, but it's still baffling that it behaved like that in the first place.
Replies: >>105681181 >>105681451
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:03:09 PM No.105680221
>>105679963
>lutris
not related to your issue but I was trying to make GTA IV work a few days ago and somehow in runner options Proton got set to experimental
What followed is that around 100 explorer.exe processes were created PER SECOND with "failed to create window" errors in the background
and I was wondering why my RAM was running out
so many in fact that system monitor crashed when trying to count them all

anyway the game works perfectly with GE proton of course (this was around 2.5 hours of troubleshooting)
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:06:44 PM No.105680239
>>105679781
>>105679766
>>105679746
>>105679642

Do you faggots always talk like gossiping trannies?
Replies: >>105681728 >>105688279
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:21:07 PM No.105680338
I've been tinkering a bit with different distros but no matter which one I run, there's one basic element that I just dont understand...If you launch an application through the GUI it just launches and runs in the background, but if you launch an application from the terminal then that terminal windows is tied to the specific process. I'm trying out Arch with Hyprland which looks amazing but it's a pretty steep learning curve (albeit with good documentation and guides, it's not hard per se but mostly just very time consuming).

Anyway, if I boot into my Hyprland session and run rofi to open applications there will still be that initial terminal window that is tied to rofi. I understand that you can automate rofi to run automatically at startup but is it possible to launch an application from the terminal and then "kill" the terminal windows leaving the app running in the background without an active terminal window tied to it..?
Replies: >>105680366 >>105680583 >>105681883
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:22:00 PM No.105680343
>>105680004
I'm doing the update now. Let's see how it goes
Replies: >>105680380
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:24:18 PM No.105680361
>>105680085
The last time I tried that was with vscode.
It didn't fix the issue, and I ended up using the appimage which probably loads faster, anyway.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:25:31 PM No.105680366
>>105680338
>if you launch an application from the terminal then that terminal windows is tied to the specific process.
End the command with &
I.e.
>firefox &
Replies: >>105680415 >>105680639
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:29:12 PM No.105680380
>>105680343
It just werks
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:32:54 PM No.105680414
>>105677909 (OP)
test
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:33:04 PM No.105680415
>>105680366
Thanks, I've read about that but I haven't really understood how it works. When I do that the process will run in the background but if I close a GUI window that's opened this way (let's say Firefox), will that actually kill the process or will it still be running in the background until I manually kill it? Also, maybe I've misunderstood but I figured that running the ampersand suffix would also close the terminal window automatically but perhaps that's not the intended way. Is it possible to also close the terminal windows automatically after running an application with the & suffix? It's a bit annoying when using a WM like Hyprland where much of the workflow is based on just using hotkeys to open a new terminal and then it leaves a bunch of open terminal windows that you manually have to close.
Replies: >>105680456 >>105680536 >>105680641
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:37:54 PM No.105680456
>>105680415
> Is it possible to also close the terminal windows automatically after running an application with the & suffix?
firefox & exit
Replies: >>105680483 >>105680536
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:41:21 PM No.105680483
>>105680456
Is this basically shorthand for
>nohup firefox > /dev/null
?
Replies: >>105680492
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:42:22 PM No.105680492
>>105680483
Followed by exiting the terminal I mean.
Replies: >>105680543
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:47:16 PM No.105680536
>>105680415
Yeah I told you wrong, my bad.
I usually do it in scripts, so I don't think about it being tied to terminal window.
>>105680456
Can't believe I forgot about this.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:47:59 PM No.105680543
>>105680492
<application> & disown; exit
idk if this is the nicest way to do it
Replies: >>105680583
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:54:14 PM No.105680583
>>105680338
>>105680543
also you can do this not in one line by;
<application>
<ctrl+z> # pauses job and returns to shell
bg # resumes job in the background, returns to shell
disown
exit
this lets you exit the shell (and by extension, the terminal) without closing the application you ran as a job (gui or otherwise)
i don't know the specifics well enough to explain what's happening technically, but looking up shell (bash) job control should get you where you need to go
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:54:49 PM No.105680587
So it isn't possible to add custom refresh rates on Wayland?
That's shocking
Replies: >>105680601
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 3:56:45 PM No.105680601
>>105680587
still? here i was considering playing with it now that compositors like labwc were apparently getting more mature, but no custom modes is an instant deal-breaker for me if true
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:00:28 PM No.105680636
It's not directly handled by wayland. Your compositor must expose this functionality I think .
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:00:39 PM No.105680639
>>105680366
that won't work, while "firefox &" will automatically make firefox a background job, it's still owned by the shell, so killing the terminal (which kills the shell) will in turn kill its' jobs, i.e. firefox
Replies: >>105680655
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:00:42 PM No.105680641
>>105680415
>It's a bit annoying when using a WM like Hyprland where much of the workflow is based on just using hotkeys to open a new terminal and then it leaves a bunch of open terminal windows that you manually have to close.
Never used hyprland, but that doesn't sound like the best way of doing things.
Most people bind a key to showing or hiding one terminal, or launching it if it isn't running.

Quake style:
https://github.com/hyprwm/contrib/blob/main/hdrop/hdrop
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:03:16 PM No.105680655
>>105680639
huh, how come "firefox & exit" works?
Replies: >>105680664
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:04:44 PM No.105680664
>>105680655
it shouldn't, though keep in mind if you already have firefox open, it may just tell the running instance to create a new window, rather that creating a new permanent process. are you sure this isn't what's happening?
Replies: >>105680671 >>105680685
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:05:37 PM No.105680671
>>105680664
NTA but I tried it with a different app and it worked.
Replies: >>105680678
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:07:13 PM No.105680678
>>105680671
interesting, that does work in bash but not fish which i use. i stand corrected. it seems there's a difference between bash and fish in this regard.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:08:32 PM No.105680685
>>105680664
>are you sure this isn't what's happening?
Yes. I tried with both "kwrite & exit" and "flatpak run... & exit". In both cases the app stays active despite not being open beforehand.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 4:13:18 PM No.105680707
>>105677909 (OP)
>trying for force shitty tranny meme
gross
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:00:08 PM No.105681053
So something causes Dolphin to crash when I copy/cut/drag a file and then it will do it every time until I restart my computer. Third time in a week this has happened.

Any way to somehow restart Dolphin rather have to reset my computer? Kill/terminate doesn't do anything and I tried systemctl restart plasmashell and it didn't work either. Running Fedora KDE
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:03:36 PM No.105681075
>>105679642
enterprises use professionally maintained commercial distros no tinkertranny distros
Replies: >>105688279
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:15:40 PM No.105681156
What do you use virtual desktops in KDE for? I've never touched them/
Replies: >>105681205
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:16:38 PM No.105681160
please explain why the hatred towards Wayland. It's backwards compatible with X11 and just runs great
Replies: >>105681186 >>105681203 >>105681205 >>105685849
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:18:51 PM No.105681181
>>105680194
Bottles being a flatpak runs in its own namespace, and nested namespaces (firejail and bubblewrap create namespaces) are not allowed due to security concerns. I have my doubts about your setup.
Replies: >>105681417
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:19:44 PM No.105681186
>>105681160
Wayland has always been a bit of a punching bag because it's been an "is it wayland yet" stigma because of it being around for like over a decade and only -now- has Red Hat finally decided to have it pushed everywhere.
Replies: >>105681205
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:22:28 PM No.105681203
>>105681160
see >>105678676
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:22:47 PM No.105681205
00240-1416152345
00240-1416152345
md5: 7b83a4b75795069d1cafb12b096b8228๐Ÿ”
>>105681156
I'm starting to understand it, I have a overkill system so i'm making different zones, gooning, gaming, normie. It would be nice if the kde intergration could force browser profiles based on the zone.
>>105681160
Until vale stepped in a threatened them they used to be overly opinionated and ignored 80% of community feedback because the faggots that wanted to be in charge of everything couldn't do something as simple as make v-sync a toggle. Now whenever they act up valve gets one of it's devs to threaten them with forks. What we have now would have never existed if bigger entities didn't bend these faggots over.
>>105681186
When you aim to replace the old guard but refuse to add feature that are standard you deserve hate. If valve decides to just fuck off we might actually be fucked
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:36:52 PM No.105681331
>>105679309
You said each distro is for a specific use case, even though everything apart from Gentoo and manually-installed Arch is a general-purpose desktop operating system like Windows.
Replies: >>105681345
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:38:57 PM No.105681345
>>105681331
>each distro is for a specific use case
read that sentence again
Replies: >>105681446
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:47:52 PM No.105681417
>>105681181
I'm not using the flatpak
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:51:32 PM No.105681446
>>105681345
I did, and doing so did not change the fact that desktop Linux is still general purpose.
Replies: >>105681632
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:52:33 PM No.105681451
>>105679963
>>105680194
I use lutris + firejail, precisely with the - -net=none argument just fine and have done so for over a year without issues so I believe you're fucking up somewhere.
Replies: >>105681513
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:53:02 PM No.105681455
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1750198552896208_thumb.jpg
md5: b62be92cfb0346f0e9f44dc683d9ddc9๐Ÿ”
I'm got thinkcenter M910q.
I want to update the BIOS to upgrade from skylake to kabylake CPU.
However fwupdmgr isn't showing anything related to BIOS.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 5:56:05 PM No.105681477
>>105679439
plasma group has everything for a minimal install, you can remove discover afterwards if you don't use it.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:00:12 PM No.105681513
>>105681451
I said firejail doesn't work with bottles. lutris was a separate issue.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:10:07 PM No.105681586
So what's the point of Debian-based distros or Fedora when they only update twice a year? Isn't that a long time to go without the latest improvements?
Replies: >>105681644 >>105681788 >>105681792
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:10:28 PM No.105681591
>>105678578
That would be outgoing traffic, anon, not incoming.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:17:03 PM No.105681632
>>105681446
>I did
You clearly didn't, because you're saying
>desktop Linux is still general purpose.
as if that's something anyone is arguing about.
Replies: >>105681712
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:17:53 PM No.105681644
>>105681586
For Debian is stability
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:20:59 PM No.105681667
>>105678614
Because Steam flatpak is broken and not Volvo supported.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:25:42 PM No.105681712
>>105681632
>as if that's something anyone is arguing about
Then don't say pointless stuff like distributions being made for specific use cases
Replies: >>105681866
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:27:30 PM No.105681727
>>105679214
>half finished wayland software
Is that Wayland's fault or LibreOffice's fault?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:27:34 PM No.105681728
>>105680239
>Immediately goes to trannies
MIND. BROKEN.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:33:33 PM No.105681788
>>105681586
Stability. Theres a difference between major versions and minor ones, and major version releases are infrequent. You don't need to instantly updoot 99% of the time and if you really need the latest updates asap(commom with very experimental software) you'll be grabbing from git anyway but you know it might break something.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:34:13 PM No.105681792
>>105681586
The LTS release model is created for:
>servers - to make sure software library APIs don't change and developers don't have to refactor code all the time.
>IoT devices, public computers, etc - to make sure technicians don't have to fuck around with them every now and then.
>work machines - to make sure sysadmins don't have to troubleshoot shit on a monthly basis.
The whole point of Debian, Ubuntu and other LTS distros is to never change. So, "no new features" is the whole point of them.
Most people don't want to be stuck on software that's years out of date. So, on your personal computer you probably don't want this and you probably wouldn't use an LTS distro.

However,
>Fedora
It gets updates constantly. It only gets a "major release" every 6 months or so. But, for example, KDE Plasma 6.4 was available pretty much on day 1. It's basically a rolling release distro which just creates a versioned release every 6 months. So it's perfectly fine on desktop.
Replies: >>105681959
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:42:30 PM No.105681866
>>105681712
>distributions being made for specific use cases
You're conveniently ignoring the words "out of the box" which make this statement factually correct.
Replies: >>105681934
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:44:37 PM No.105681883
>>105680338
>there will still be that initial terminal window that is tied to rofi. I
You just add a keybind to start your rofi.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:52:07 PM No.105681934
>>105681866
What is the specific use case of Endeavour?
Replies: >>105681979 >>105682460 >>105682535 >>105686420
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:53:58 PM No.105681959
>>105681792
>So, on your personal computer you probably don't want this and you probably wouldn't use an LTS distro.
Huh, nobody uses Linux Mint, I guess.
Replies: >>105682530
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:56:37 PM No.105681979
>>105681934
jerking off to anime titties, same as any distro.
Replies: >>105682007
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:01:16 PM No.105682007
>>105681979
s/titties/feet/
Replies: >>105682039
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:04:59 PM No.105682039
>>105682007
that's what gnome devs want you to think.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:24:26 PM No.105682176
I just installed Bazzite and I'm very pleased with it. I didn't expect it to be so straightfoward, I already have every driver I need. It just works.
Replies: >>105682257
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:36:07 PM No.105682257
>>105682176
It's overall a very good SteamOS-esque desktop mode focused alternative. I like that it comes with Homebrew set up.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:54:42 PM No.105682389
uWhat's the absolute best Shell+ language for when you need something that's too annoying to do with a plain shell? I've pondered many alternatives
>Python: fuck ton of libraries, comes by default, atrocious to deploy without a container (specially on Windows) and have to triple check forward compatibility every once in a while
>Babashka: base language is nice, easy to deploy, good middle of the road ecosystem, binary is massive for the features it includes thanks to Graal cancer
>Janet: minimalist, easy to deploy, very tiny, doesn't come with many features nor has that wide documentation
>Golang: easy to deploy, decent amount of libraries, needs cross compilation, language itself is crap
>>105678720
MX Linux XFCE edition is 95% of the way there
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:04:00 PM No.105682460
>>105681934
Being a desktop OS that serves a target audience of desktop users, mostly those who want a rolling release distro base like Arch but don't want to set things up themselves.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:11:52 PM No.105682525
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1735474902582049_thumb.jpg
md5: 628da1385494a0e354aa321f9f57f225๐Ÿ”
Any CLI tool to search & play music off youtube?
Replies: >>105682607
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:12:24 PM No.105682530
>>105681959
Mint is mainly a popular choice because it's advertised as "easy and stable" and as "distro of choice when moving away from Windows". Also, it's pushed by many popular e-celebs.
It being popular doesn't mean that using it makes sense for most desktop users. Just like it doesn't make sense for 95% of desktop users to use Windows 10/11.
End users are not guaranteed to make ideal choices. Most people don't make life choices based on any though process and just do whatever is popular.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:12:54 PM No.105682535
>>105681934
jabba the hyt level of themes
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:13:48 PM No.105682545
How do I make Plasma not move (unmaximize) a maximized window when dragging its title bar? It's too easy to do accidentally.
Replies: >>105682558
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:14:53 PM No.105682558
>>105682545
remove titlebars
Replies: >>105682606
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:21:29 PM No.105682606
65 wat
65 wat
md5: d4ea9b7704454acaf455479e96906c12๐Ÿ”
>>105682558
The entire titlebar? Then how do I move a window at all, or close/minimize/maximize etc?
Replies: >>105682722
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:21:32 PM No.105682607
>>105682525
ytfzf+mpv
Replies: >>105682644
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:24:59 PM No.105682644
1749692917854716
1749692917854716
md5: 8478c8f8fe02825de73ae80a6f420d19๐Ÿ”
>>105682607
Can this be run with mplayer?
To run it completely in CLI?
My laptop is my home server and is connected to my speaker with bluetooth, so I want something to control via SSH
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:34:13 PM No.105682722
>>105682606
>how do I move a window at all
Hold your meta key ("windows"/"super" key), then just drag the window with your mouse (left button) like a normal person.
>resize
Hold your meta key ("windows"/"super" key), then just drag the window with your mouse (right button) like a normal person.
>maximize
Drag it all the way to the top of your screen.
Alternatively: Meta+PageUp
>minimize
Click on the window icon in your task bar/panel (left mouse button).
Alternatively: Meta+PageDown
>close
Alt+F4 or Ctrl+Q.
Alternatively: assign your middle mouse button to be a "close window" action in your task bar/panel.
Alternatively 2: use your application's native "Quit" button.

There's literally no point in having a title bar on windows.
Replies: >>105683504 >>105683592
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:05:26 PM No.105683504
>>105682722
>meta key ("windows"/"super" key)
>like a normal person
I hope you see the irony here.
Replies: >>105683548
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:09:07 PM No.105683548
>>105683504
I really doubt anyone using Linux for over a week is clicking on a titlebar like a retard just to move a window. The only exception are people who have no idea this is a thing.
Replies: >>105683568 >>105684781
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:10:55 PM No.105683564
Ok I'm confused. How do you guys move a window with the mouse?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:11:12 PM No.105683568
>>105683548
Have you considered not everyone uses the keyboard as the primary input device?
Replies: >>105683589
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:13:41 PM No.105683589
>>105683568
>on a PC/laptop
>not using the keyboard as the primary input device
Replies: >>105683631
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:13:51 PM No.105683592
>>105682722
maybe i changed it and forgot, but i've got to hold ALT to do this.
Replies: >>105683606
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:15:11 PM No.105683606
>>105683592
it differs between DEs and it can be switched between the two
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:18:15 PM No.105683631
>>105683589
Sorry I use a mouse, like a normal person, and the keyboard when it's convenient or I'm actually typing shit out, also like a normal person.
Replies: >>105683661
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:22:41 PM No.105683661
>>105683631
>I don't hit Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V, I right click with a mouse and select "copy"/"paste"
>I don't hit Ctrl+W to close a tab, I move my mouse to the tiny X button and click it
>I don't hit the meta key to open the app menu, I fling my mouse to the menu icon and click it
Are you for real? This is some grandma shit.
Replies: >>105683733
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:33:50 PM No.105683732
1454737977934
1454737977934
md5: 7dbd7e8f736b9ef96728da9ff9bc2640๐Ÿ”
I implore you
do not attempt to answer unless you actually have experience with this

>Linux
>two accounts
>main - Me
>porn - X
>boot drive and data drive

I want simple setup
if I download something as any of the users on to the data drive
it should be usable by both, deletable by both
seamless without asking me to elevate when I want to delete file downloaded by the other account
I thought maybe I just add them both to a group
but they are both in wheel group already
the issue is the ownership of a file I think

Whats the go-to way to go about this?
Replies: >>105684020
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:33:57 PM No.105683733
>>105683661
>I don't hit Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V, I right click with a mouse and select "copy"/"paste"
Usually Ctrl+C/X and Ctrl+V, but depends on how lazy I am and if I want to reach for the keyboard
>I don't hit Ctrl+W to close a tab, I move my mouse to the tiny X button and click it
I have never had a need to press Ctrl+W. If I am closing a tab, I'm probably closing many of them at a time, thus it's easier to use the mouse.
>I don't hit the meta key to open the app menu, I fling my mouse to the menu icon and click it
depends on the situation, I do both
Replies: >>105683780
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:39:58 PM No.105683780
>>105683733
So, you're using the keyboard after all.
Why do you think moving a window with a mouse+keyboard is less convenient than having to precisely grab a window title with just the mouse? Your left hand would naturally rest on the keyboard anyway and you only have to hold 1 key. And you can grab the window anywhere to move it. Same with resizing except it's even worse if you're just using a mouse since window borders are 10x smaller than the window title.
Replies: >>105683846
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:49:14 PM No.105683846
>>105683780
maybe moving it is ok
but maximizing with page up is awkward
Replies: >>105683858
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:50:37 PM No.105683858
>>105683846
I mean I agree, which is why I just move windows to the upper edge of the screen and they get automatically maximized. That's how it works on most DEs.
Replies: >>105683867
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:52:22 PM No.105683867
>>105683858
or double click the titlebar. But why would I drag the titlebar if I want to un-maximize it? Makes no sense, and I keep doing it accidentally.
Replies: >>105683923
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:58:53 PM No.105683923
>>105683867
Because you would drag it to the top of the screen to maximize it. When you drag a maximized window's title bar you're doing the opposite of that, so it un-maximizes. It makes perfect sense.
Again, if you don't want that to happen either have your DE remove title bars from maximized windows or just remove them entirely.
Replies: >>105684029
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:03:38 PM No.105683963
tinfrogs
tinfrogs
md5: d2da44f0d5a647454d351fd7e62d2c43๐Ÿ”
Can we talk about state of multiboot creation tools on linux for a moment? Why is everything chinkshit or sketch af? I look on google for what people are using, it's all "Ventoy". (Ventoy -> goy > vent-goy!) Coincidence? I think not.
I look up this ventoy shit and find out its main dev is from one of the sus countries, doesn't ever reply, and there are weird claims on the AUR about " pre-compiled binary blobs"...?

YUMI is much the same story. They try to throw you off with the name since it's sounds like its from a [good asian country] but it's also Zhang Wei-tier that even uses stuff from Ventgoy.

What the hell is going on?
Guess manually making GRUB2 multiboot tools via cli like a cavemen boomer is the only way to go.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:08:04 PM No.105684005
Sometimes when I'm playing this browser game my one, or both of my screens will freeze, my system isn't unresponsive or anything, just my screens are frozen. The only way I can get them to work again is by dropping into tty and coming back to the GUI with the ALT+F* hotkeys
May also happen when I don't have my game open, it just only ever happened while I did so far
Any idea what could be causing this? Running Fedora 42 KDE.
Replies: >>105684046
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:09:34 PM No.105684016
So how many times a month will a Dual Boot setup with windows break?
I want to make the switch to LMDE7 when it comes out in September but there are some programms like DAWs I need a native Windows install for. I thought about LTSC Iot 2021.

What will I sign up for?
Replies: >>105684083 >>105684202
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:09:52 PM No.105684020
>>105683732
Create a group, add your both users to said group and execute this on the folder where you store data

sudo setfacl -dRm g:your_group:rwx /your/folder
Replies: >>105684080
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:11:02 PM No.105684029
seething
seething
md5: f7348cdf41d671770cf788014176271f๐Ÿ”
>>105683923
But why can't I just remove the ability to move the window when it's maximized altogether? REEEEEEE
there is no reason to move the window if it's maximized, it's like it's fixed in place and locked and safe
Replies: >>105684065
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:13:29 PM No.105684046
>>105684005
Try with an x11 session.
Replies: >>105684964
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:16:02 PM No.105684065
>>105684029
>there is no reason to move the window if it's maximized
There is. If you want to un-maximize it or move it to a different screen or workspace.
>it's like it's fixed in place and locked and safe
That's not what "maximized" means. Even full screen windows can be moved between screens and workspaces.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:18:20 PM No.105684080
>>105684020
ditch that, I'm dumb, use this instead:
sudo chgrp your_group your_folder && chmod g+s your_folder
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:18:55 PM No.105684083
>>105684016
>So how many times a month will a Dual Boot setup with windows break?
Apparently Microsoft fixed this issue a few months back. But I'm pretty sure the fix isn't backported to LTSC 2021.
>there are some programms like DAWs I need a native Windows install for.
Does using a VM/WinApps work for you? Or Bottles? I've seen people run stuff like FLStudio in Bottles.
Replies: >>105693433
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:32:05 PM No.105684202
>>105684016
>So how many times a month will a Dual Boot setup with windows break?
Dont copy paste shit from the internet without making sure you understand the implications and what you have to do to undo such change and you'll be fine. Following some "dude just paste this into [SYSTEM PATH]" post can break something, doubly so if it's outdated or is meant for a different distro with a different config
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:38:09 PM No.105684233
>>105679415
>windows goes out of its way to break linux boot akin to malware
>this is linux's fault.
spend the 10 minutes it takes to learn how to fix a grub install or select the proper boot disk, or just uninstall it and shut up. Your seething is painful to watch. I dont even like or use linux, youre just being so painfully retarded while failing to accomplish what a retard could do with google. Fucking zoomers are usesless and obsessed with trannies, why dont you ask AI to solve this for you instead of posting on a form like the rest of your godforsaken generation.

>Rent free
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:38:43 PM No.105684237
>>105679524
Windows literally broke millions of comouter with a bad update that broke the bootloader like a year ago. You're just too dumb or stubborn to Google how to fix grub loader, a thing I managed while 13, 20 years ago with a fraction of the tutorials and documentation there is now. Alternatively your motherboard's clock battery died and the PC forgot which drive to boot from first, either can be fixed in about 1-5 minutes. Windows is known for going out of its way to break Linux because linux's mere existence rustles Gate's jimmys. Linux isn't easy to get into but if you're willing to read and Google it's manageable by a literal monkey. I meanl it's clearly too stressful for you so you should just turn that drive into a game drive.

I don't even like Linux that much but your seething is painful to watch. L2cope.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:39:28 AM No.105684696
they finally added real text outlining to gimp holy shit
Replies: >>105684943
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:44:54 AM No.105684731
>>105679274
Why do you need three? Just use RPM (non-Flatpak for Steam) and Flatpak (for anything that doesn't have issues like Steam does Flatpak).

Done. There is no need to use Snaps since Snap lost the Flatpack vs SnapApp war.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:51:02 AM No.105684781
>>105683548
>The only exception are people who have no idea this is a thing.
I literally did not know that was a thing, and even then why would I remove the title bar and that UI options just because I can use the keyboard?
>Real estate
Minor benefit, that doesn't factor in like browser "toolbars" taking up 20% of screen real-estate.
Replies: >>105687554
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:51:29 AM No.105684785
KDE's notifications crashed today and would not restart.
However, I somehow had notifications, and they looked super cool
I investigated the source, and found out I have dunst from when I tried i3 still
I now use dunst
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:14:14 AM No.105684943
>>105684696
Really? Text outlining was one of the reasons for me to pick photoshop because im lazy. Thank fucking god.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:16:58 AM No.105684964
>>105684046
Will do, thanks.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:27:14 AM No.105685427
1719976883478624
1719976883478624
md5: 6e8d88e525ad1977279a903796b99ed0๐Ÿ”
Trying to set up Arch on a VM. Probably a stupid question but,
After running reflector to get a better list of mirrors, I've been unable to use pacman to get anything, -Syy gives me the following errors. On the Arch wiki it says I should check if the sync files are corrupted, which they seem to be, but it says nothing more than that my router could be corrupting my sync files. They get corrupted again even after rm -r'ing them.
How do I get around this? Is there a way I can get back to the default mirrorlist (which seemed to work mostly fine before)?
Replies: >>105685506 >>105685510 >>105686420
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:42:00 AM No.105685506
>>105685427
Nuke it and update
sudo rm -r /var/lib/pacman/sync/
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:42:09 AM No.105685510
>>105685427
Nvm fixed it, I just looked up one of the official mirrors and put that in my mirrorlist instead of what reflector put in it
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:43:08 AM No.105685849
>>105681160
i can run wayland programs under X as well. wayland may "run great", but not as well as X
Replies: >>105686263
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:52:00 AM No.105685901
why is bash so comfy
it can't do much and it doesn't need to
it's perfect the way it is
:)
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:07:00 AM No.105686263
>>105685849
A well implemented compositor runs better on Wayland, period, there's no point in comparing both
Replies: >>105687594
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:34:49 AM No.105686420
>>105685427
>running reflector to get a better list of mirrors
Can't you just like uh pick one from your country? Have no idea what "reflector" is.
Also Arch mirrors are run by literal randos so the results vary.
>>105681934
>"what is the use case for Arch"
Replies: >>105686472 >>105687255
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:43:28 AM No.105686472
>>105686420
>Can't you just like uh pick one from your country?
That's what I ended up doing.
>Have no idea what "reflector" is.
It's supposed to be a utility that can update pacman with a bunch of mirrors sorted by speed, update time, country, etc. Ended up being more trouble than it's worth, but I'm an Arch newbie so maybe I was just doing it wrong
>Also Arch mirrors are run by literal randos so the results vary.
learned that the hard way
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 7:40:31 AM No.105687106
>>105677909 (OP)
Update: I failed installing arch linux. Unsure how to proceed.
Replies: >>105687131 >>105687230 >>105687609 >>105687613 >>105688103 >>105688159 >>105691054
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 7:44:54 AM No.105687131
>>105687106
Get back on the horse and try again
Read the installation guide more thoroughly
Replies: >>105687910
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:01:45 AM No.105687230
>>105687106
Try reading one of those github write ups of peoples own install instructions, I think they'd be a little more straight forward for you. I remember finding one helpful when I first tried installing it myself years ago
Replies: >>105687237 >>105687239 >>105687910
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:03:27 AM No.105687237
>>105687230
Haven't thought about reading github guides on the install process, though I know of that one Nvidia driver install guide on github for Arch.
Links to any if you remember them? Might be fun to read.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:03:29 AM No.105687239
>>105687230
I'm 99% sure I just forgot to install a bootloader, is that possible? kek
Replies: >>105687247 >>105689802
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:05:11 AM No.105687247
>>105687239
Well that just means you didn't install a bootloader package and set it up.
Replies: >>105687910
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:07:35 AM No.105687255
>>105686420
>what is the use case for Arch"
I didn't ask about vanilla Arch, though.
Replies: >>105689802
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:20:08 AM No.105687334
I need a email web client for my personal server. I used roundcube years ago and it was okay. Is there something that exceeded it?
Replies: >>105687364
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:25:31 AM No.105687364
>>105687334
Roundcube is still fine, but maybe look into Snappymail.
Replies: >>105687379
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:28:14 AM No.105687379
>>105687364
The login size sold me.

Thanks.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:56:15 AM No.105687554
>>105684781
>why would I remove the title bar and that UI options just because I can use the keyboard?
because all the UI options exist elsewhere, like your panel
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:02:54 AM No.105687594
>>105686263
>the perfect wayland compositor hasn't been implemented
Also, they can and should be compared since they ought to accomplish the same objective. How they do it should be just a detail.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:05:22 AM No.105687609
>>105687106
when I had some problems installing Arch back then, I got told here that I shouldn't use it. Times sure have changed.
Replies: >>105687910
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:06:46 AM No.105687613
>>105687106
Install EndeavourOS
Replies: >>105687910
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:00:41 AM No.105687910
>>105687131
>>105687230
>>105687247
>>105687609
I got back on my horse and did it again and this time I did it correctly.

>>105687613
no


this was a very rewarding experience I can't believe I haven't done this sooner.

Arch chads, I kneel.
Replies: >>105687931
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:05:59 AM No.105687931
>>105687910
Congrats anon-chan
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:34:52 AM No.105688078
>>105679502

I guarantee your windows updated and overwrote the bootloader which broke grub, because microsoft doesn't give a fuck and knows retards like you will blame linux for it anyway
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:37:55 AM No.105688094
>>105679952

>didn't read the news before updating
Replies: >>105689101
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:40:16 AM No.105688103
>>105687106
What tripped you up this time?
It helps if you plan your partitions and basic packages in advance like which boot manager and network manager you're going to use.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:47:01 AM No.105688141
>>105680004
I have had zero issues on two machines, AMD+Nvidia and Intel+Nvidia/Intel. I just did the manual step as instructed while doing system update and everything just works.
Planning to do the same on my virtual machines at work once I get back from vacation. I expect no trouble from them either.
Replies: >>105689101
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:50:15 AM No.105688159
>>105687106

if you can't follow wiki instructions, you're not ready
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:50:17 AM No.105688160
What the fuck is maliit keyboard and why does it keep crashing and why can it not just be uninstalled in KDE
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:51:31 AM No.105688164
>>105679052
Any distro based off the testing branch of Debian (for example the short-term Ubuntu releases or Linux Mint, or just Debian Testing) with flatpak packages.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:54:58 AM No.105688185
>fell for the Bazzite meme
>its actually goated
This might be the year of the linux desktop
Replies: >>105688222
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:02:04 AM No.105688222
>>105688185
it will never be yotld until some company actually starts selling good value hardware. Currently the only thing Linux has is the Steam Deck and this is very unlikely to change.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:14:02 AM No.105688279
>>105680239
>>105681075
You obviously have a gay/transsexualism fetish so you should go to the board that is most suitable for you:

>>>/lgbt/
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:21:46 PM No.105688628
1739088921042755
1739088921042755
md5: 29a4cec29dc2ec277546d9ef428c77b0๐Ÿ”
What's the advantage of gamescope on wayland?
Replies: >>105689643
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:38:08 PM No.105688729
>>105667128
it turns out it was the colour accuracy option. what a world
Replies: >>105689613
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:25:15 PM No.105689009
How do I get Kodi to recognize HDR? KDE desktop recognizes my TV-AVR HDR setup and HDR is enabled there. Installed kodi-gles as recommended by Arch wiki, but Kodi still insists that no HDR capabilities are available. Same situation with my desktop, although there I used flatpak Kodi to test things out instead of the arch repo one.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:29:59 PM No.105689040
>>105678046
this is why Linux is a failure.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 1:43:17 PM No.105689101
>>105688094
>>105688141
They're up to 3 revisions in testing so far but I'm glad it's working for you. Fact remains that lots of people are having issues for something that was not even necessary.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:49:34 PM No.105689586
i dont know why and how but something fucks with my mouse
when i move it very fast left and right it gets drag to the left/right randoml
or when i move it in a circle it gets dragged to bottom left/right corner
tried many surfaces and tried 2 mice (same brand) (in theory tried 4 since it is a wireless mouse so tested it wireless and connected) and all of them have that problem
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:52:49 PM No.105689613
>>105688729
if you have a 9070 xt + kde dont use the accurate color option, or vulkan renderer with mpv, or hdmi 2.1
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:56:28 PM No.105689639
1725943382001071_thumb.jpg
1725943382001071_thumb.jpg
md5: 50d2dfa17fd872ff4840bd8b64536fef๐Ÿ”
I have a script that uses ueberzug to display images.
Now I moved to wayland and it doesn't work.
What are my options to get that functionality back?
Replies: >>105689670
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:57:04 PM No.105689643
>>105688628
it's nice for game with finicky window management (can't alt+tab away or back for instance) and old games with unsupported resolutions, so you can scale them up and add borders for different aspect ratios
Replies: >>105689656
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:58:38 PM No.105689656
>>105689643
would it improve frames compared to other WM?
Like Kwin on wayland?
Replies: >>105689701
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:00:49 PM No.105689670
>>105689639
Change to ueberzugpp, which is ueberzug for Wayland.
Replies: >>105689725
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:03:38 PM No.105689701
>>105689656
If you use it as-is, then usually no.
It allows you to spoof the window resolution and use FSR and XeSS. In this case you will have better performance.
It's also used for limiting the framerate on the fly to conserve battery on handhelds and laptops.
Replies: >>105689770
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:06:33 PM No.105689721
I'm currently using Nobara 38, and am about to do a clean install to update to 41
Aside from the M2 SSD where the OS is installed, I have two HDDs for media storage. Are there any precautions I need to take to avoid issues with them or the files stored there? Should I physically disconnect them before doing the install?
I don't have much experience with Linux, so I'm nervous about something going wrong and me losing the stuff I've accumulated
Replies: >>105689751 >>105689793
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:06:49 PM No.105689725
>>105689670
>ueberzugpp
I tried that, so I need to change my original script parameter?
Because I just got pixlated version in konsole.
Or do I need to switch terminals?
Replies: >>105689736
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:08:01 PM No.105689736
>>105689725
From what I've read it's basically a drop-in replacement
Replies: >>105690134
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:09:17 PM No.105689751
>>105689721
>Are there any precautions I need to take to avoid issues with them or the files stored there?
no. the only thing that can happen is you choosing the wrong drive to install Nobara on. If you don't trust yourself at all then just unplug everything other than your main drive.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:11:48 PM No.105689770
1726257342694028
1726257342694028
md5: b7caabbe791bd81093cf67315423ab0c๐Ÿ”
>>105689701
>It allows you to spoof the window resolution and use FSR and XeSS. In this case you will have better performance.
No, I'm using it with bottles both in flatpaks
I'm not sure how or way but I had these issues, with this game (PvZ)
>native Kwin ~30-40 fps 100% CPU
>enable HW accelration, now ~50 fps 50%GPU/50%CPU
>use gamescope ~20 fps 100% CPU
>allow /dev/dri ~40 fps 50%GPU/50%CPU
>gamescope with 60 fps frame cap and 1920x1080 ~60 fps constant 50% on bpth gpu and CPU
The game is in wonky 4:3 aspect ratio too.
I tried with other games and got worse performance.
All on Open GL rendering
So what am I doing wrong?
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:13:38 PM No.105689793
>>105689721
You could unplug your drives before installing to the NVMe or just make sure to unselect the drives while selecting the NVMe to install to. If you do the unplug method you'll just need to run chown on the mounted drives so your new user owns them.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:14:30 PM No.105689802
>>105687255
uses Arch' repos = is Arch
not sure what vanilla is in this context
>>105687239
Bootloader part is the hardest desu, regardless the distribution.
>>105677992
Forget the whole firewall thing, you are behind a household router anyway.
Replies: >>105689907
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:24:14 PM No.105689883
can someone explain me in human language what is Unix, Gnu, Linux and how they work with and what they handle to form a system. And what is added on top of these so it turn "Debian"
Replies: >>105689960 >>105689978 >>105689979 >>105689986 >>105690009 >>105690048 >>105690947
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:26:43 PM No.105689907
>>105689802
>not sure what vanilla is in this context
Linux faggot don't be an obtuse retard challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Replies: >>105689981
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:27:01 PM No.105689909
I've set up a tmpfs to hold compilation artifacts, but as a result I run the real risk of running out of RAM if I don't keep an eye on it. I've got earlyoom set up, and I think it's got an option to set up a script that it runs after it triggers so I can use that to unmount my tmpfs in these cases.

However, it has made me wonder: are there any tools that can give me a good overview of my memory usage including ramdisks? free doesn't show it. /proc/meminfo seems to have values that are probably relevant, so a tool might be able to parse them, but I don't know what half of them mean and it'd be highly annoying to read through the entire output every time.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:33:51 PM No.105689960
>>105689883
nvm i gemd
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:35:43 PM No.105689978
>>105689883
Linux is the kernel of the operating system. GNU is a set of core utility binaries that are always included in a Linux-based system like ls, cat or echo. UNIX is the proprietary ancestor of Linux, basically its original blueprint. Think of Linux like the open source UNIX, with another OS called BSD also being birthed from UNIX, and used to create macOS.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:36:02 PM No.105689979
>>105689883
>what
Unix is a very old term for a type of kernel; nobody cares what it means and nobody could explain to you how Windows is not Unix-like. GNU is a collection of free and open source software; if you've ever heard of GPL, it's the basically the GNU licence that makes software free to distribute and modify however you want. And Linux is any operating system using the Linux kernel, which is supposed to be Unix-like.
>how they work with and what they handle to form a system
Unix means some shit, don't ask me. Linux makes the fundamentals of how a computer organises itself (the stuff a user doesn't see) very simple. GNU (GPL) ties it altogether as a release format.
>And what is added on top of these so it turn "Debian"
Someone took the Linux kernel, which is provided under GPL, and added their own shit + a GUI, and boom, you've got a desktop OS.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:36:09 PM No.105689981
E8AH2EFVgAAkIcY
E8AH2EFVgAAkIcY
md5: 815860bb8645589693fee663e1dd51c5๐Ÿ”
>>105689907
Replies: >>105689996
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:36:58 PM No.105689986
>>105689883
>Unix
Unix is an OS created in the 1960s. Unix was designed to be a multitasking, multi-user system, which means many people can use it at the same time, and it can run multiple tasks simultaneously.

>GNU (GNUโ€™s Not Unix)
GNU is a free software project that was started in the 1980s by Richard Stallman. The GNU project developed software that could replace the proprietary Unix components, such as the kernel, utilities, and tools needed for an OS.
However, the GNU project didn't have a full kernel yet.

>Linux
Linux is a kernel, which is the core part of an OS that controls the hardware and allows software to interact with the hardware. It was created in 1991 by Linus Torvalds.
The Linux kernel alone isn't enough to form a full OS, but when combined with the GNU tools (and other software), you get a complete, working system.

>Debian
Debian is a distribution (or "distro") of Linux. A Linux distribution is a full OS that includes the Linux kernel, plus software like applications, utilities, and package management tools.
So, what it adds to GNU/Linux is:
1. Package Management: Debian uses "APT" to install/update software.
2. Preconfigured Settings: Debian comes with pre-set configs for the kernel, system settings, and UI to be usable out of the box.
3. Software Repositories: Debian provides a collection of software thatโ€™s stored in online repos.
4. Installer: Debian includes an installer that makes it easy to install it on your computer.

>in short
- Unix provides the original ideas and design for multi-tasking, multi-user systems.
- GNU provides many of the tools and utilities (like compilers, file utilities, shells, etc.) needed to make a system usable.
- Linux provides the kernel, the core part that connects everything together and interacts with the hardware.
- Debian is a complete, user-friendly distribution of Linux that includes everything (kernel, software, tools, package management) to make it a usable OS for people
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:37:13 PM No.105689989
file
file
md5: adf0561736f31a2106fa25db5d6cad4a๐Ÿ”
has anyone have experience with wacom AES digitizers? Its basically the thing that makes pressure enables styluses work and wacom being generally linux compatible makes me wonder if laptops using their tech also work on linux.
So does it actually work? Im looking at an Lenovo ThinkPad X380 Yoga right now. If the pen works with pressure im buying.
Replies: >>105690008 >>105690034
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:37:35 PM No.105689996
>>105689981
Everyone who is not a fucking idiot knows that vanilla Arch is Arch proper, as opposed to an Arch-based distribution like Manjaro.
Replies: >>105690092
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:39:17 PM No.105690008
>>105689989
I'm pretty wacom is the only company with these drawing tablets that actually supports Linux.
Replies: >>105690017 >>105690038
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:39:20 PM No.105690009
>>105689883
>Unix
Operating system built ages ago, which got really popular in commercial and server settings. Competed with MS-DOS and mainframes back in the day. Over time, lots of companies extended it and made their own versions, so Unix became more of a certification of adhering to a particular standard than any single OS. Today, *BSD operating systems and MacOS are the main Unix systems still in use - though MacOS comes with a huge amount of Apple software on top (e.g. the entire UI is completely unrelated to the Unix core, among many, many, many other Apple-specific things) - it just happens to use a kernel that's Unix-certified. Naturally, the different unixes are still not compatible with each other.

>Linux
Some guy's re-implementation of Unix in his basement, because he didn't like how all these companies were making competing versions, they were all commercial and paid for, you'd get vendor lock-in because they were all subtly incompatible, etc. Due to its free and open nature, eventually evolved to be significantly more popular than "normal" Unix over time (with the possible exception of MacOS).
Though similar to Unix in many ways, it's not Unix certified, and doesn't aim to be. Since it's not technically Unix, sometimes people use the term *nix to group together Linux and Unix since they're so similar.

>GNU
GNU is a project that made a few things, most notably the compiler that's used to build Linux itself as well as a large proportion of user software, the "coreutils" which are basically standard utilities for things like file manipulation that everyone expects to have, and on the non-software side the GPL which effectively kicked off the entire free software/open source movement. Without utilities such as GNU's, you wouldn't be able to do much at all to interface with a Linux system, but nowadays GNU is not the only option for this (there are GNU-less linux distributions for example).
Replies: >>105690037 >>105690078
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:40:19 PM No.105690017
>>105690008
>I'm pretty
I'm pretty sure*
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:41:37 PM No.105690034
>>105689989
Lenovo devices fully support Linux and Wacom has libwacom to work properly on Linux as well, so it should work exactly as it should.
Replies: >>105690044
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:41:53 PM No.105690037
>>105690009
>there are GNU-less linux distributions for example
Android and ChromeOS come to mind
Replies: >>105690130
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:41:55 PM No.105690038
>>105690008
This is actually just an Lenovo laptop with wacoms pen stuff built in. Its not necessarily a drawing tablet. If it were one finding out of it works would be as simple as going on their site but drawing on these things is already a niche and add linux into the mix and info is pretty much non existent.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:42:56 PM No.105690044
>>105690034
I know that it does with their actual drawing tablets but does it also support the digitizers in these laptops?
Replies: >>105690061
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:43:16 PM No.105690048
>>105689883
>UNIX
An old operating system. Linux works similarly to UNIX, but Linux is not itself UNIX.
>GNU
GNU stands for "GNU's Not Unix" if I remember right (a recursive acronym). It's meant to be a collection of free-and-open-source software that replaces proprietary UNIX software. There's the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC), there's GNU Emacs, there's GNU grep, etc.
>Linux
Linux is an operating system kernel. The kernel is perhaps like the spine of the operating system, but you need other software on top (such as GNU software) for a full operating system. These days though, when people say "Linux", they are often referring to the family of operating systems that use the Linux kernel. So "Linux" can refer to just the Linux kernel, or to all operating systems that use the Linux kernel.
>And what is added on top of these so it turn "Debian"
Debian is known as a Linux distribution, or "distro". A distro is just an operating system that uses the Linux kernel. Debian is one distro, Fedora is another, Ubuntu is another, Arch is another, etc. Different distros have slightly different software, and different release schedules, etc. For example, Debian-based distros use the apt package manager for managing software installed on the system. Whereas Fedora-based distros use a different package manager called dnf.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:44:15 PM No.105690061
>>105690044
Maybe just check if libwacom supports your model?
Replies: >>105690122
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:45:49 PM No.105690078
>>105690048
>>105690009
You should explain to him that Linux people think the word "software" is obsolete and call everything a package.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:47:04 PM No.105690092
>>105689996
I don't know much about Arch (I'm not the guy who was posting before)

I'm just saying, why are you getting angry about Linux users when you're in the Linux thread? Fuck off if you don't like Linux users
Replies: >>105690105
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:48:11 PM No.105690105
>>105690092
Because this is the Friendly GNU/Linux Thread, and you have taken to being most unfriendly and in fact gay.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:49:33 PM No.105690122
file
file
md5: a7e29b2e323f3b6e592e9caf3275536f๐Ÿ”
>>105690061
There is no info about it that i can find. All the laptops manufacturers list (if at all) is if it supports wacom AES and that's it. And wacom themselves are also not very descriptive just saying "a wide variety of Wacom tablets and component devices.". I guess that laptops fall in this category but who knows if there are no actual devices listed.
Replies: >>105690135
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:50:30 PM No.105690130
>>105690037
True, but also even less exotic ones like I think Alpine using musl and busybox. I'm pretty sure you might even be able to bootstrap it with llvm nowadays.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:50:54 PM No.105690134
1727414514298828
1727414514298828
md5: 4ece6242bcee33ba65e55971dbe4bfdf๐Ÿ”
>>105689736
Well I'm getting images like pic.
I'm on KDE wayland too.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:51:04 PM No.105690135
>>105690122
I would say it's probably a good bet that it'll just werk honestly.
Replies: >>105690158
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:53:57 PM No.105690158
>>105690135
I kinda think so too and i could just get the laptop and test it on a live-usb and send it back if it doesn't but I'd rather know beforehand if it works.
Replies: >>105690171
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:55:06 PM No.105690171
>>105690158
Yeah, just check with a live USB firstly. Most live USBs come with a paint program to test.
Replies: >>105690217
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:59:43 PM No.105690217
>>105690171
I don't just need it to detect the stylus but also to support pressure and buttons, more advanced stuff like that doesn't instill a lot of confidence in me without any sort of documentation.
Yeah, lucky we have live USBs to test these things in an non-intrusive warranty preserving manner.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 4:02:40 PM No.105690245
file
file
md5: 9f33c0be44c5e5a2dab33a8a24c78605๐Ÿ”
Actually just found this lol.
When i test the damn thing, add my experience to the OP because there is literately no documentation on this.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 4:18:18 PM No.105690382
file
file
md5: 25329473db38a77cf8c377f0bf336d2d๐Ÿ”
Kinda hidden but there is an actual list. Might just get some x1 yoga. But that's something for another general.

https://github.com/linuxwacom/input-wacom/wiki/Device-IDs
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:08:56 PM No.105690787
whats the best android emulator for linux mint?
Replies: >>105690824 >>105691074
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:14:28 PM No.105690824
>>105690787
The best emulator is Waydroid but it needs Wayland to run. There's not many other good ways.
Like you could try Android Studio or try Android-x86 within a Virtualbox VM.
Replies: >>105691049 >>105693229
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:27:05 PM No.105690947
>>105689883
unix = old (70's) operating system initially made for minicomputers, it hung around for some time and direct descendants for quite some time, they've all since either died or diverged enough to be their own thing now. "unix" can also be used to describe os's that significantly resemble unix as well even if they weren't ever directly related. like linux is often called a "unix-like" as it shares many basic properties and conventions from unix, but isn't derived from any actual unix code
gnu = a collection of software projects, including things like emacs, coreutils, gcc, etc. i think it was originally envisioned like an ecosystem, but the gnu kernel, hurd, was progressing slowly, which let linux take its' place
linux = an operating system kernel. the most important and defining program of an operating system and arguably IS the operating system, depending on who you ask
>what is added on top of these so it turn "Debian"
a distro like debian is just that, a distribution of software. it's just other software which has been collected, configured and delivered for a specific purpose. basically a distro exists so you don't need to go find, configure, build, and install each individually little piece of software yourself
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:37:52 PM No.105691049
>>105690824
there is some software that can make wayland stuff run under x11 doe
forgot its name sadly but last time i saw this question the answer was waydroid with that software.
Replies: >>105691060 >>105691065
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:38:22 PM No.105691054
>>105687106
Just use Arch install. You can still larp btw.
Tho, install debian instead. It's working mans distro. Arch is for teen cs enroll or alike mind
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:38:44 PM No.105691060
>>105691049
Weston? I guess that could work.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:39:34 PM No.105691065
>>105691049
several wayland compositors can be run under X11, including (last i checked) the reference compositor, weston
something like gamescope probably makes more sense for this use-case (gamescope is a wayland compositor... you've likely already used it under x11 without realising this)
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:40:45 PM No.105691074
>>105690787
>Mint
unfortunately it doesn't ship with any real DEs, so Waydroid won't work. Your best bet is installing Android x86 in a VM.
Replies: >>105693229
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:57:20 PM No.105691224
>>105677909 (OP)
I'm thinking about writing a bash script to keep last 5 copies of a file for my own basic backup utility. I would like to ask if what I'm planning makes sense.

So basically, I will create a file which keeps the names of the 5 backup files I created, I will name the backup files with dates so they won't get mixed up. Once I run the script, it will make a new copy and delete the oldest one.

Is there a more obvious option that I'm missing?
Replies: >>105691260 >>105691980
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 5:59:58 PM No.105691260
>>105691224
Some filesystems support making snapshots on their own and that might be better than having multiple copies of the same or similar data as same blocks wont be duplicated.
Replies: >>105691306
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:04:09 PM No.105691306
>>105691260
I'm using ext4 and I don't really want a full system snapshot. Just copies of some files on different hard drives.
Replies: >>105691335
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:07:20 PM No.105691335
>>105691306
sure, why not then. Though that in 2025 we had file systems that can snapshot single files or folders.
Anyways that do you mean by
>file which keeps the names of the 5 backup files I created
? Can't you just add the timestamp at the end of the files and call it a day? Do you really need a sorta index or am i misunderstanding?
Replies: >>105691347 >>105691456
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:08:31 PM No.105691347
>>105691335
at the end of the filename i mean
Replies: >>105691456
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:20:14 PM No.105691456
>>105691335
>>105691347
That's what I'm planning to do actually.
"file_1_date1" "file_1_date2" and I'll put the names into another file so that I can keep track of which backups I've generated and which ones I can delete.
Replies: >>105691486
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:23:16 PM No.105691486
>>105691456
>and I'll put the names into another file
Yeah but why? You don't need another file to what to keep and what to delete. Also might want to put the timmestamp at the beginning, makes finding the correct order retardedly simple.
Replies: >>105691501
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:25:28 PM No.105691501
>>105691486
Just as a log. I like keeping logs.
Replies: >>105691513
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:27:13 PM No.105691513
>>105691501
Ah that makes a lot more sense and is a smart thing to do.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 7:20:17 PM No.105691980
>>105691224
- make folder under backup folder using date(1)
- copy file into folder. keep the original name
- check if there's more than 5 folders in backup folder
- if there is, delete the oldest (if you want to handle cases where there's somehow more than 6 folders in there, do it in a loop)
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:29:51 PM No.105692513
Anons, I'm trying to passthrough my HP USB printer to a Windows VM and install the driver. The printer disconnects right after the part of the installation that requires the printer to be connected starts, virt-manager gives me an error regarding the printer device being not found or something along the lines, but then it reconnects somehow. Yet the installation appears to be stuck. I've restarted it several times. Is there anything I can do??
Replies: >>105692634 >>105693016
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:43:01 PM No.105692634
>>105692513
Go to "Edit -> Preferences -> Console -> Spice USB Redirection" and set it to automatic. It's possible that your driver installer tries to unplug it and re-plug it for some reason.
Replies: >>105692663
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:45:47 PM No.105692663
>>105692634
It is already set to that
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:59:02 PM No.105692763
2025-06-24_19-57-03
2025-06-24_19-57-03
md5: 45a97a64f561c9a18177685778fbd893๐Ÿ”
Why the fuck is my WM taking up 3.4G of RAM according to btop? In my config the only child processes should be gentoo-pipewire-launcher and polybar. Does this just mean my WM is shit?

For some reason neither top nor htop show this, though.
Replies: >>105692803 >>105692852
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:03:28 PM No.105692803
>>105692763
ram on linux can be a mystery. I don't get if often too.
Replies: >>105692842
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:08:54 PM No.105692842
>>105692803
*I often don't get it either
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:10:03 PM No.105692852
>>105692763
Pretty sure they have different ways to measure ram usage. Read that htop uses the "old" way to measure it which is closer to window's but it apparently isn't an accurate representation.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:10:22 PM No.105692856
*I'm gay
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:11:31 PM No.105692868
1000007607
1000007607
md5: 8e8b13f4b9142978be03dc1ab2da53a5๐Ÿ”
Right I've got freedos running on a bootable usb on my Ubuntu 24 laptop. I've got the .exe flash file and the binary file on that usb too.
I booted into the usb, opened the .exe flash file and I've tried to specify the file but it hasn't worked.
What is wrong here lads?
Will post an image of the files in the folder too.
Replies: >>105692886 >>105692926 >>105692937 >>105692959 >>105693204
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:13:36 PM No.105692886
1000007398
1000007398
md5: a20c729df5a7bf8c7cb81017ba121247๐Ÿ”
>>105692868
I should say I'm trying to update my bios on this old laptop using freedos like a helpful anon suggested prior.
Replies: >>105693152
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:18:08 PM No.105692926
>>105692868
It says right there how you're supposed to use it
Replies: >>105693199
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:19:43 PM No.105692937
>>105692868
It looks like you're supposed to run
>ELASH14C.EXE ECW5xSU1.07
or
>ecflash.bat ECW5xSU1.07
in the command line.
What you're doing is probably running just
>ELASH14C.EXE
or
>ecflash.bat
which is why it doesn't work
Replies: >>105693199
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:21:20 PM No.105692959
>>105692868
What do you think the word in all caps mean anon
Replies: >>105693199
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:26:50 PM No.105693016
>>105692513
Well I don't know what changed, but I plugged out the printer, rebooted the PC, launched the VM, opened the driver installer, waited until it asked for a printer connection, plugged it in and it installed immediately
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:43:33 PM No.105693152
>>105692886
>I'm trying to update my bios on this old laptop using freedos like a helpful anon suggested prior.
That wasn't a helpful anon.
He was just posting AI answers.
You need to use proper windows or windows PE.
Try using Hirens and run that exe again.
Replies: >>105693215
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:49:26 PM No.105693199
1000007609
1000007609
md5: 009176bbe6f504e1626ea5fcf151db0f๐Ÿ”
>>105692926
>>105692937
>>105692959
I'm a noob sorry.
@937
Yeah that shit worked, thank you very much.
This is now the most up to date bios available for this old motherboard so I can now install the best CPU compatible for it (second hand). I'll post results.
Replies: >>105693215 >>105693221
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:49:52 PM No.105693204
>>105692868
Why do you need FreeDOS to flash the BIOS? Because the flasher is a Windows EXE I guess?
Replies: >>105693235
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:50:43 PM No.105693215
>>105693152
>>105693199
It seems to have worked or am I wrong sorry?
Replies: >>105693224
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:51:14 PM No.105693221
>>105693199
>I can now install the best CPU compatible for it (second hand). I'll post results.
You mean solder it on there? Ambitious if so
Replies: >>105693257
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:51:27 PM No.105693224
>>105693215
you went through extra hop, that's all.
SAAR
Replies: >>105693272
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:51:57 PM No.105693229
>>105690824
>>105691074
any virtualization that does arm64?
Replies: >>105693357
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:52:59 PM No.105693235
>>105693204
The manufacturer was clevo, the only update available was in .exe format so someone suggested running freedos to use it.
It seems to have worked or am I misreading this?
Replies: >>105693293
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:54:52 PM No.105693257
1000007370
1000007370
md5: 0695e8ad72407a8110e354dd1600eced๐Ÿ”
>>105693221
This was a custom built laptop that came with a mount, no solder required, woohoo!
Replies: >>105693293 >>105693454
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:56:10 PM No.105693272
>>105693224
Unfortunately I'm Scottish and half cut. I wish I could shit in the street
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:59:12 PM No.105693293
>>105693235
Fair enough, that's cool if it worked

>>105693257
Cool. What's the newest CPU you can put in there?
Replies: >>105693365
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:04:51 PM No.105693343
>>105678353
>because newfags fall for the distrohopping meme

not all distros are created equal. ubuntu is based on debian but ive seen ubuntu break stuff (repeatedly) that works fine in debian stable.

a distro is more than just a custom wallpaper
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:06:32 PM No.105693357
>>105693229
Android Studio has a built-in emulator which supports ARM images. It's probably your best bet.
Android x86 has an ARM-compatibility layer iirc, but it's hit-or-miss from what I remember.
I'm not sure if ARChon supports ARM apps. If it does you could try it. But it runs in chromium so I assume it'll just be x86.
Waydroid runs natively, so you'd be using x86. It doesn't have an ARM compatibility layer so you won't have access to arm64.
Replies: >>105693386
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:07:04 PM No.105693365
>>105693293
Well on the compatibility list there was an i7 3.0ghz from this i3 2.5ghz at the same watt usage (I'm not changing the fan and heating sync as that would be a nightmare and probably not cost effective).
I'll change it shortly and post a pic
Replies: >>105693416
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:10:52 PM No.105693386
>>105693357
>Waydroid runs natively, so you'd be using x86. It doesn't have an ARM compatibility layer so you won't have access to arm64.
Nope, it does have an arm compativility layer.
Replies: >>105693414 >>105693460
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:14:21 PM No.105693414
>>105693386
can confirm
that idiot is ai posting
Replies: >>105693460
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:14:23 PM No.105693416
>>105693365
I see, that sounds good
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:14:25 PM No.105693418
>>105677909 (OP)
So I wanted to install the DMM Games launcher, you know the japanese one, how do you make it work, and subsequently since it's a launcher, the games it installs? It's windows/macOS only
Replies: >>105693674
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:15:55 PM No.105693433
>>105684083
>Does using a VM/WinApps work for you? Or Bottles? I've seen people run stuff like FLStudio in Bottles.
Nah I'm using Ableton with Midi Controllers and ASIO and it just doesn't work with Wine or in a VM.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:18:52 PM No.105693454
>>105693257
>Swappable CPU, Wifi, SSD, RAM, Battery
This is what they took from you
Replies: >>105693503
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:19:57 PM No.105693460
>>105693386
>>105693414
Literally none of the arm apps work out of the box and there isn't an exposed setting to enable arm support. If you have to run some retarded cli command to get shit working then it's just not there.
So, please do explain how can you run arm apps on an x64 CPU on Waydroid, because I can see no option for that and every arm app fails to install by default.
Replies: >>105693532 >>105693844
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:25:22 PM No.105693503
>>105693454
Haha yeah I could potentially swap the hard drive but it's got a 7600rpm "fast" hard drive already. In the end I would be limited by the motherboard and hence CPU, so I probably won't. I will just build a minpc after this is unusable. My older laptop, a Sony vaio is on vista and just about unable to load web pages.
I did upgrade the ram in this new one from 4gb to 16gb so I may open the old one to see if the ram is swappable to the old 4gb
Replies: >>105693559
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:28:39 PM No.105693532
>>105693460
adb install newpipe
Replies: >>105693678
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:32:07 PM No.105693559
>>105693503
Bro Sata SSDs are cheap af and they will absolutely make a differenc even if you only have a 4th gen intel in there
Plus I think that slot close to the CPU could be a M.2 slot so you could have the SSD and HDD at the same time. But bro get a SSD srsly.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:44:30 PM No.105693666
New thread:
>>105693664
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:45:31 PM No.105693674
1727746633449136
1727746633449136
md5: e5ee807b43d18295dcef6edca76d6d9b๐Ÿ”
>>105693418
Okay, I need someone to help me out, so I installed DMM games using proton (added it as non-steam game) then once installed, I ran the DMM launcher (added it as non-steam game again) and it loads, however you see it tells you to login, it will open my browser which is outside of proton so I login.... (1/2)
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:45:45 PM No.105693678
>>105693532
newpipe is specifically built to support both x86 and arm
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:06:04 PM No.105693844
>>105693460
>If you have to run some retarded cli command
oh no no no no no, running a single command? That's just too much
Replies: >>105693878
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:09:44 PM No.105693878
>>105693844
Clearly it doesn't work anon, just give up.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 1:49:50 AM No.105695245
what should i do with my thinkpad t470? i main linux mint on my gaming pc and not sure what distro to put on the laptop or even what to do with it. id like to do a cool project or something too