Thread 105700564

Fairphone (gen)6 was launched today in Europe.

Every part is (easily) user replaceable.
Every part can be bought from the official store.

You can buy one with stock Android

OR

/e/OS: A European privacy-first de-googled Android OS

>>105700564 (OP)
>Pic
Oh well

Launch video
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GpUkYw4i6Kk

Guided tour
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ky-ShKFrqyk

Where is the headphone jack?

>>105700810
No headphone jack since even Fair phone fell for the "I'm removing a feature to sell you my own version of airpods" meme

>>105700564 (OP)

I’m sure the feeling one gets from it being open source is better than the actual experience itself will ever be.

>>105700564 (OP)
>gayropean
>privacy-first

>>105700564 (OP)
Out of all custom ROMs they choose the worst

>>105700564 (OP)
I'm boycotting Europe so I'm not buying one.

>>105700810
those actually create a lot of waste, so it's better to omit it

Can it charge wirelessly? Like every phone worth having since '12 or so?

>>105700564 (OP)
>moto e5 play
>not advertised as repairable
>Has easily replaceable battery (just remove back cover)
>has headphone jack
>"reparable" fairphone
>needs tools to change the battery
>no headphone jack
guys I think the fairphone might be a scam, also that op needs to buy an ad

>>105700936
>those actually create a lot of waste, so it's better to omit it

>>105701096
That's very inefficient, no.

>>105701846
it's convenient as fuck though

>>105701901
Wasting valuable electricity is not a convenience we should support.

>>105701921
wireless charging saves your usb port though

>>105701096
wireless charging is a fucking meme

>>105701960
>battery becomes spicy pillow instead
awesome

>>105700564 (OP)
Would/e/pass play integrity as its preinstalled?

>>105702250
I've been charging wirelessly more than a decade and it's the best thing ever

>>105702301
ive lost several pixels to that shit with various usage habit changes
never using it again

>>105700881
You really are against Europe privacy laws while supporting US spyware, NSA, CIA, FBI etc. rootkit tier spying? How about give a actual argument with proof instead of just greentexting your emotions about you living in a third world shithole US.

>>105700564 (OP)
I don't think I've ever had a phone where having a replaceable battery matters, by the time I need to replace it, the hardware is already ancient it's already near unusable so you might as well get a new phone.

Only thing that I could see being somewhat useful is a fairly easily replaceable glass/screen. But even then I replacement screen is usually so expensive it's not worth it.

>>105700564 (OP)
What is the point of repairing? Phones are so cheap, there is no point in repairing them.

>>105701503
>Released 2018

>>105703052
crazy that phones peaked so long ago

>>105700564 (OP)
Why would I want poodroid on my smartphone? Im white and not some poorfag romanian thief.

>>105700810
They're going to sell it to muricans later, they prefer headphone jacks because people will assume you're an unemployable loser if your phone does have one.

>>105700607
>That fucking vocal fry
Disgustin

>>105703052
You say that as a form of mockery but I don't even need to look up the spec sheet to know that the shitphone6 uses some retarded dogshit mediatek chip from 5 aeons ago

>>105703220
>but I don't even need to look up the spec sheet to know that the shitphone6 uses some retarded dogshit mediatek chip from 5 aeons ago

>>105703582
*sexes your bumhole*
not so wrong now huh?

>>105703582
no snapdragon no buy, simple as

>>105703152
they prefer no headphone jack*
Though in hindsight they probably shouldn't bother selling it in the US anyway, it's not like it will run iOS.

>>105703672
ios sucks anyway

>>105700564 (OP)
I tried e/OS a few years back. It's basically Android with an iOS skin so as not to scare the normies. It wasn't very good and so I moved on and flashed another custom ROM.

>>105703659
>no snapdragon no buy, simple as
Then you are in for a pleasant surprise.

>>105703743
the fairphone has a headphone jack?

>>105700564 (OP)
No 3.5mm jack, no swappable battery, no hardware switches. Pass. Looks like fairphone is tanking their company on purpose.

>>105700564 (OP)
>no 3.5mm headphone jack port
Doesn't this clash with their mission statement?

>>105704158
>>105700936

>>105700564 (OP)
That's all nice and good, but the world needs less smartphones, not more of them.

>>105700564 (OP)
>smaller than the gigantic Fairphone 5
They're Learning!

>>105704341
well you see, them releasing phones is good actually!

>>105700564 (OP)
Buy an ad you niggerlicious fuckshit

>>105700564 (OP)
no headphone jack

Can it run Graphene OS or Calyx?

Poojeets are going through the phone craze we went through in the west 20 years ago.

>>105702359
you need to present an ID to even buy a phone in Europe, fuckwad. it's illegal to not have your simcard tied to your legal identity.

>>105701096
>finished charging wirelessly
>pick up the phone
>the melted backside glued it to the charger

>european
stick it up your ass you fucking walking abomination

>>105700564 (OP)
>600 Monies
>Basic features missing
>Outdone by chinkphones at half price
DOA, FagPhone delivers again

>>105701503
This.
Also any company advertising based on 'muh environment' , repairability and privacy is always a scam.

>>105701503
This.
Also any company advertising based on 'muh environment' , repairability and privacy is always a scam. Any actually good product has these boxes ticked as a matter of course.

No wireless charging means you cannot use it as a server with a HDD as easily once you're done with it.
>>105701921
kill yourself, you are taking away the rights of the people while claiming
>it's for the climate!
The lowest tier of lies and thievery, claiming it's for nature. Empower users, not politicians spreadsheets in Brussels. The internet is international, why should anyone ever care where an internet device comes from you fascist fuck?

>>105706633
>it's illegal to not have your simcard tied to your legal identity.
no it's not. capitalism is not illegal, i can buy cards with money, everybody loves money.

>>105708824
cont. further explanation: store owners need to ask for id when selling sim cards. that is the law, it says nothing about users needing to be tied to anything.

another thing for your life: there is no "legal" nor "illegal". no "legal stuff" list exists. no "illegal stuff" exists. there are only actions and they can be judged. the judge literally decides whatever he feels like. one day you get away with it, the other you don't. depends on which lawyer you hire.

good luck

>>105708848
>the judge literally decides whatever he feels like
LITERALLY, by the way. they can do whatever they want, it doesn't have to abide by law books what they decide. you can sue and go into the next instance if that happens and expect a fairer trial. but you have to do it. if the judge wants, he ends your life in this european super nanny state

>>105706615
Yes, calyx. They also support /e/os.

>>105700564 (OP)
how is that "default android" though, good enough, does it get in the way of, calendar, gmail, clock alarm, whatsapp, dickpicks, etc?

>>105706633
>>105708848
>store owners need to ask for id when selling sim cards
like half the european countries doesn't require any id. same goes for the rest of the world.

>>105700564 (OP)
>A European privacy-first de-googled Android OS
>Still has AI spyware on a hardware level
lol

>>105706633
I live in Europe that this is not true.

>>105704341
It's better for normies to buy repairable phones they will use over a longer period of time than for them to buy a new phone every two years that is trashed once it needs the most minimal repair.

>>105706633
>you need to present an ID to even buy a phone in Europe,
Wrong, in some nations you need to give an ID to register a SIM.

>>105709213
Which ones? Name them.

>>105709218
At the very least Germany. I had an international list once but sadly I can't find it anymore. You can easily get a SIM in another country in which this doesn't apply and then simply use roaming or get virtual numbers but if you want that +49 you will have to give out an ID.

>>105709226
Got any proof that this is true in Germany? Thanks.

>>105700564 (OP)
how do you use banking apps and apps that need google play

>>105709236
I don't have anything like that anyway.

>>105709245
well thanks that's very helpful for me knowing if i can run those on this phone

>>105709252
You didn't ask if you "could run those apps" tho.

>>105700564 (OP)
Why the Fuck works anyone choose stock android?

>>105709232
§172 Abs. 1 TKG, vor allem Punkt 3 und 4.

>>105709236
/e/OS has microg.

>>105709292
You need ID in every country but the USA, they are trolling you, little slave man. Wave into the camera!

>>105700936
More waste than forcing people to use shitty disposable earbuds?

>>105709449
No, some countries allow you to register SIM cards without having to provide your ID. Also a lot of US carriers demand an ID anyway.

>>105709236
You use the android version if you care about that.

>>105706633
Where did you see that? Here in France you can just go to the store and buy a phone with cash, no questions asked

>>105709292
And you think that proves...what exactly?
Prove your claims to be true anon. Go ahead.
Quote the exact law that proves you to be true. Link it too.

>>105709498
Don't just believe the lists from the content farms, research every country and if you can buy a SIM card there at the airport and you'll find: nope. The US went totally crazy after 9/11. They insist on knowing everything. Check out this Jeffrey Sachs talk, they are tightening the noose under Trump even further: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4c-YRPXDoM (long video but really interesting)

Kind of a big deal, this starlink internet, huh? We also can use international eSIMs nowadays to get international ISP competition.

Carriers are trying to trap users even further: They claim there is such a thing like a "SIM swap" attack. They call it attack and started taking ML enabled techniques to circumvent them, but you can disable them if you ask your carrier sometimes.
Now what is SIM swapping: You pay a bum 100 bucks to walk into the store and buy the card for you.

Watch that Palantir guy. Clinically insane. But in charge of that. https://youtu.be/WIhlC3L99x8?t=850 (short video but full of info, felt odd for a US TV show)

>>105706633
lived in france, poland and the netherlands and I've never had to present my id to buy a phone, I don't know where that's a thing

>>105710546
Not even the UK does this, and you need a licence for everything here.

>>105710546
>>105710700
nta, you need the id to buy a sim card, at least we do here in south eu

>>105710736
You don't here.
Pay as you go sim cards can be purchased by literally anyone.
What country? Name it so I can look up your laws and make sure you're not lying. Thanks.

>>105710750
fuck you, spain

>>105709133
Everything just works

>>105710785
sounds good 2bh

>>105710772
Seems to be true there. Can't see a single other example in Europe tho.

I legitimately thought I might buy until I realized it doesnt have the headphonejack

>>105710802
that's good, I thought everyone in the eu was under this magic spell

>>105710798
>>105710785
600€? I really don't like the idea

>>105700564 (OP)
>Fairphone
>600 Euros
>Every part can be bought from the official store.
>25 euros for a back plastic cover replacement
>10 euros for screws

>>105702446
I don't think I've ever had a phone where I didn't replaced battery.

>>105710802
Military stops you at the border in spain, they're fascist since the whole catalonia inception. They've been fascist in the past already. Fascists lie, they make false claims to trap you in, they lure you in to catch you with SIM cards.

>>105710814
kill yourself, defector

>>105710977
what kind of rat poison are you smoking?

>>105711004
It's no spanish weed. Truth hurts, doesn't it? Hits you right where it hurts, in the face of your stupid coked up lies.

>>105711028
You have to be 18+ to post here.

>>105711028
no, it feels like the most retarded schizo is making shit up as he goes

>>105709770
>And you think that proves...what exactly?
That the provider needs to be able to provide your full name, address and your DOB.
>Quote the exact law that proves you to be true.
§172 TKG

>>105710158
>research every country
How about you prove your claims then?
>Now what is SIM swapping: You pay a bum 100 bucks to walk into the store and buy the card for you.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize your were baiting.

>>105711089
>§172 TKG
Quote the exact line from the legal document that proves you correct.
Or you can lose right now.

Go ahead.

>>105711116
>§172 TKG
>(1) Wer nummerngebundene interpersonelle Telekommunikationsdienste, Internetzugangsdienste oder Dienste, die ganz oder überwiegend in der Übertragung von Signalen bestehen, erbringt und dabei Rufnummern oder andere Anschlusskennungen vergibt oder Telekommunikationsanschlüsse für von anderen vergebene Rufnummern oder andere Anschlusskennungen bereitstellt, hat für die Auskunftsverfahren nach den §§ 173 und 174 vor der Freischaltung folgende Daten zu erheben und unverzüglich zu speichern, auch, soweit diese Daten für betriebliche Zwecke nicht erforderlich sind:
>2. andere von ihm vergebene Anschlusskennungen,
>3. den Namen und die Anschrift des Anschlussinhabers,

>>105711140
It doesn't say anything about ID here.
Sorry. Did your translation app fail?

>>105701503
well its just as repairable as any modern phone all phones are modular, ive never really understood the point in the fair phone

>>105711159
I forgot
>4.bei natürlichen Personen deren Geburtsdatum,
What are the only reliable sources for DOB, full name and address in the eyes of the law? Sprich Deutsch du Hurensohn

>>105711172
Want to translate that for the rest of the class to read? Thanks.

>>105711183
§172 TKG states that if you have a service that provides internet access by possessing a phone number you need to provide full name, address and DOB as soon as the contract is signed in case there are made any inquiries through the law.
Nun nochmals, Sprechen sie Deutsch, Sie Hurensohn?

>>105711203
>didn't translate the literal text
Why not? I didn't ask you to summerise. Be exact nigga, or it's not worth doing at all.
Go ahead.

>>105711217
I have already BTFOd you. There's no reason for me to continue this. You don't even speak German. You are nothing.

>>105700564 (OP)
Europe won.

>>105710977
Get the rope right the fuck now commie.

>>105711245
>Doesn't translate the text
>Runs away crying
Concession accepted.
:3

>>105711089
>How about you prove your claims then?
What for? For you? Bwaha, I'm not your little monkey. Wave into the camera like everybody else. Faggot.
>>105711038
You don't have to be, but it's the rules. Faggot.
>>105711042
I don't care about your feelings. Faggot.

>>105711303
nta, that guy's post if full of rage, but I don't approve, some of us commies want to end jewish world dominance as well

>>105711309
>You don't have to be, but it's the rules
That measn you have to be 18+ to post here kid.
MODS!!!!! A CHILD IS HERE!
MOOOOOOOOODS!

>>105711316
>>105711303
He's right, I'm full of rage today.

>meanwhile Americans celebrate this shitty 'US made' chinkphone
The EU unironically won.

>>105712216
For all its faults, it does have a headphone jack.

>>105700848
Doesn't sound very fair

>>105702359
>eurotranny crying

>>105712216
Hahahahahaha

>>105700936
I know your trolling but I've lost my shitty usb to aux adapter so many times. In addition to regularly replacing my headbuds, I also have to but one of these fairly often know. these parts are also digital and have microchips so I can imagine that their footprints is multiple times higher than that of the purely analog earbuds

>>105711140
i hate politicians so goddamn much

>>105700564 (OP)
>Every part is (easily) user replaceable.

you dont need to replace anything, maybe the battery after 4years. And you can replace it yourself easily even in glued phone, i replaced it easily in my xiaomi phone, also bought new back cover(because it had new glue tape on it), simple

>>105700564 (OP)
>Removable battery
Jamal and Muahmad will enjoying stealing phones from timmies.

>>105700564 (OP)
>modern enough chipset
>6.3 inch screen
>SD card slot
>removable battery
>has green color
I might actually buy it just to compare it to my S23. I'n getting sick of Samshit locked bootloader.

>>105715545
I thought Samsung didn't look their bootloaders

>>105715628
They do in the US.

>>105715662
land of the free

>>105712216
>>105712233
>from made in the US to made with American values
>specs quietly changed
>ram info no longer available
>launch delayed
kek. They prolly gonna yeet that jack as well.

>>105715688
I know right

>>105715381
Me too, previously this at least wasn't the case with prepaid cards

>>105701503
>>needs tools to change the battery
back in my day batteries used to fall out of mobiles everytime you dropped them, screwing them in is the right approach if you ask me

>>105700564 (OP)
ADD BACK THE HEADPHONE JACK


AND LINUX SUPPORT

>>105715992
https://shop.fairphone.com/nl/fairbuds

>>105715992
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Fairphone-6-Linux

>>105715992
But then they won't be able to sell you fairbuds!!! Think about the profits sweaty

This looks like I'd break it instantly

>>105700564 (OP)
damn i remember when google was working on their modular phone but gave up for some reason

>IP55
pass

>>105700564 (OP)
Seems like the perfect phone to go along with a Framework laptop.

>>105716962
It's annoying the Framework has a 3.5 jack though, I'd rather it didn't, I prefer wireless.

>>105717104
Framework 16 has no built-in jack.

>>105700564 (OP)
>no headphone jack
they had one single fucking job

>+50 Euros for e/OS
Uh, why?

>>105716907
For them it was more about being able to expand it's functionality. The question is: What functionality do you need that can be supplied by the small, easily changed modules? A compass? A mediocre camera? Some sensors maybe? All that would be slow as hell and likely low quality. Unless google was willing to take a massive hit, it would also cost a lot since they couldn't guarantee x amount of sales, therefore keeping the prices of all modules high.

>>105717516
I could see this working if there was a super cheap base model sold with minimal sensors and a crappy camera, and the upgrade process was easy. There's no way it'd be more profitable for Google though, the only appeal for them would be the untapped market that specifically wants a modular phone.

>>105717516
they fell in love with the product not the problem