>All those people that learned to code now have to learn to plumb
It's over

On a scale of
>Centering a div
To
>Senior quantum computing researcher how do you define "intellectual labor"

>>105703140 (OP)
Why did they use a shitty AI generated photo of him that barely looks like him?

>>105703193
Hintons are very wealthy old money family he's never held a wrench in his life

>>105703140 (OP)
just stop doing mundane intellectual labor then, as simple as.
90% of engineers (not just swe) do not deserve to be engineers anyways, we could weed out most of the workforce and see no negative effect on productivity.
as usual less than 10% are responsible of doing the actual job, ever seen all these weird ass buildings, impractical roads, shitty electronic appliances, etc?
that's retards doing a job they aren't qualifed to do and the actual engineers trying their best at the last second to make things do with whatever they can.
I can't fucking wait for software to replace most of the people at my job

>>105703140 (OP)
>rich, successful, well-educated man tells everyone else to shovel shit for a living

Do poor people really fall for this?

jews are so fractured from material reality that they can't even figure out how a wrench works.

>>105703140 (OP)
Geoffrey could be one of the pioneers of modern AI. But if you really work on serious Machine Learning and understand the limits of current SOTA AI, you will find he is senile, ignorant, and outdated. The only reason to keep this man is for historical purposes, but he is not smart enough if he thinks current LLMs reason, and he is ignorant on many levels for not seeing that there are many areas where these models cannot even contribute incrementally to the knowledge of engineering and science.
Some people think it is the end of the world because a token predictor can complete the code to write their mediocre web platform, while there are many other problems that not even Claude can solve correctly.
Programming was never hard or an intellectual task. That is why people with middle to low IQs are so afraid or amazed by LLMs, because their brains cannot even comprehend the gigantic pile of complex problems out there waiting to be solved.
I will tell you a "Simple" yet hard problem to solve, character level tasks. B level parameters models struggle even with trivial tasks like those.

>>105703140 (OP)
they are already developing models that can but put into robots. no job is really safe. the manual labor jobs will just take more time.

>>105703334
"2 weeks until image models replace radiologists"
>2 weeks later
"Ah yes, right on schedule, just two more weeks!"

>>105703374
>>105703368
exactly , this is why AI-doomers are even more retarded.
There are still a lot of potential new areas for AI that nobody is watching.
This mongoloids think is just matter of
"hey LLM design me a new IA model that replaces a radiologist and make my plumbing"
#MCP #AGENTS #AGENTIC

>>105703368
the robot took over the manufacturing job 40 years ago, except in china where the average peasant dog eater is cheaper, where have you been living under a le heckin rock?

>>105703140 (OP)
>>105703334
>>105703374
If you didn't secure a plumber job at the start of the year - you are fucked. The manual labor market is completely overflowed by former Senior Fullstack devs and System Architects, mexicans and indians fighting for a chance to earn a bit of scraps.
And then >>105703368 is correct, next year you'll see mass layoffs of existing manual laborers in favor of Tesla and Nvidia robots.

>>105703460
>where have you been living under a le heckin rock?
this is how I know you have 0 clue about the topic. He is talking about robots doing house level tasks, if you think a factory robot problems are at the same level you are really illiterate. Finding, grabbing and cracking an egg in a pan is many orders of magnitude harder that pick and placing parts in a factory assembly line where the environment is ALWAYS THE SAME.
You would be amazed by the easy to create chaos in those lines if you add just a simple entropy into in the environment.

>>105703532
>Senior Fullstack devs and System Architects,
ayylmao, this is why I tell you AI-doomers have 0 clue, engineering is not just software, LLMs are not the only kind of AI.
LLMs are not even allowed on many firmware companies

>>105703532
>Tesla and Nvidia robots
if you think VLA based robots are useful you are a mongoloid, I literally work at robotics and humanoids are not even practical.

>>105703187
uh the term they used was "mundane intellectual labor" you fucking stupid faggot

>>105703534
Holy midwit. Cracking an egg in a pan is not difficult at all LMAO.
What would be difficult is designing a robot with software that can figure out how to do it on it's own, starting from where you are now, which is a glorified chat bot.
Good luck with that btw.

>>105703532
"Hey, uhh... I heard you got some of that 'AI mid-level engineers by the end of the year'

>>105703619
>is not difficult at all LMAO
https://www.construction-physics.com/p/robot-dexterity-still-seems-hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGNNW6smDPQ
You just made evident how ignorant you are, and is ok, I mean, not everybody had the curiosity to make a robotic arm to pick an egg.
>which is a glorified chat bot.
see, you have 0 clue. this is not even related to language.

>>105703619
>Cracking an egg in a pan is not difficult at all LMAO.
Show me a video with timestamp of your robotic arm cracking an egg in a pan.

>>105703460
Process engineers and maintenance bros are eating good. Will likely be a long while til they get replaced, maybe not in our life time, or towards the end of it.

>>105703619
That assumes the egg size, oven location, oven knobs, pan location, pan placement, burner spots, fridge, carton placement in fridge, kitchen layout, etc is exactly the same in all situations. The problem is a household bot isn't dealing with some streamlined process mulled over by dozens of engineers and techies, everything lined up for maximum feng shui, but rather stupid fucking retard humans that do all sorts of random, inconsistent things.

>>105703722
>That assumes the egg size, oven location, oven knobs
exactly, he can't even dimension the complexity of the problem, that's the huge issue with these AI-doomers. Is not even a 100% software problem.

>>105703362
Damn, the bloodshot eyes are great
*claps* developers
*claps* --

>>105703679
>>105703704
If I had someone paying the money for the proper sensors, absolutely I could, and so could you despite your mental handicaps. This is so fucking DK it's insane, you've obviously never been anywhere near a machine shop in your life, picking up an egg is beyond trivial for anyone other than state school sophomores doing their group project.

>>105703722
>Process engineers and maintenance bros are eating good.
And there is another area, legal and compliance for this machines, when one of this things grabs a knife and murders the owner, evaluators with technical knowledge will be it need there.

>>105703767
>If I had someone paying the money for the proper sensors,
I had done it , that's what I am telling you loser with duning kruger syndrome.
> picking up an egg is beyond trivial for anyone other than state school sophomores doing their group project.
if you think this is what I am talking about, it proves how ignorant you are and you don't even understand why this works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7rs-MAXXzM

>>105703615
Prompting an AI is mundane intellectual labor. This kind of circular logic never holds any water.

>>105703853
WITHOUT pneumatics you fucking dipshit.
Go back to applying to 100 jobs a month slopineer.

>>105703140 (OP)
> No jerbs in software dev
> the "be a plumber" meme starts
> everyone tries to get training in these sort of field
> it begins to get swarmed by a vast amount of people looking to get into the field
> the market gets saturated
> No jerbs in plumbing

the cycle continues

>>105703769
I reckon that level of involvement would be controlled by OSHA or some other regulatory business that oversees many companies, it's a lot simpler to handle compliance with machines when you have smaller workforces entirely composed of high level professionals that only barely interact directly with the machinery/robots.

And of course, regulatory bureaucrats will always be fine, as will the business reps and anything related to sales; humans still want to talk to humans as long as boomers/gen X is in command. I feel like HR could easily be replaced by an AI, but I also wouldn't be surprised if HR needs are reduced so much by the smaller workforces that company bosses keep around one or two HR ladies for giggles. Going to be really interesting to see what the hell happens over the next few decades, I know a lot of people meme about the future having few jobs and everyone else starving, but I optimistically believe the human overminds will find some at least slightly honorable use for us lesser beings.

>>105703867
>Go back to applying to 100 jobs a month slopineer.
says the guy who can't afford 2usd sensors kek

>>105703242
They’ve produced so much for society though. 6 fingered furry porn generators and email definitely means they deserve to enslave everyone else as their personal sex slave retard, how about YOU invent something if you don’t like it.

>>105703140 (OP)
i don't want to deal with people who think i am scamming them

>>105703140 (OP)
My backup plan is to become a custodial engineer actually, though becoming a drain technician is certainly an appealing option, as someone who learned to code

>>105703889
we're very close to figuring out that there are more people than jobs, and it ultimately doesn't matter where people go because it'll still be overcrowded due to simple mathematics (barring some shit jobs that are worse than being unemployed and benefitmaxxing)

>>105704003
>we're very close to figuring out that there are more people than jobs
Just isn't true. The thing about trades is that it's where all of the least trustworthy and felonious individuals end up working, not generalizing, but it's true, all you have to do is not be on drugs and show up and you can outcompete the bottom 50%, it's literally that easy, but people just don't want to do it, and for good reason, it sucks.

Historically manual labour has been replaced by machines or advanced methods to a much larger rate than anything intellectual. Unironically the safest jobs are also the most useless ones like middle managers/state workers in general and so on, given they dont depend on actually producing anything already and are completely made up anyway, so they are not under any risk of anything doing their job better.
Dont go into trades, get yourself a bullshit job.

ITT: Competitive Motorized Goalpost Racing

>>105703140 (OP)
>GenAI thumbnail
Into the trash it goes

>>105703140 (OP)
>learn a trade
is dumb, but it will actually be interesting if people with IQs over 100 get into trades. I think we'll see a return of 'craftsmanship'... excellent masonry, timber framing, cabinetmaking, etc.

>>105703140 (OP)
AI can't even render a P trap and it wants people to become plumbers lol.

>>105703140 (OP)
Maybe they shouldn't have pushed the le college meme and make it seem like working trades was peasant work.

>>105703185
Great catch

>>105703140 (OP)
BENZINGA!

>>105706366
AI will come for those jobs too. It will just take slightly longer. Honestly the best argument for a smart person to learn a trade is to be the guy to train that very AI.

>>105706366
>I think we'll see a return of 'craftsmanship'... excellent masonry, timber framing, cabinetmaking, etc.
Craftsmen are still a thing. Nobody cares because it's extremely hard to compete with chink slop that can be bought for 1/10th the price.

>>105703889
>industry replaces farming
>farmers just go work in all the new factories
>factories get sent overseas
>factory workers just go work in all the new service industry jobs
>service industry jobs get automated out with no new field replacing them
>umm you can go uhh be a plumber or something haha

>>105703185
anon knows his enemy so well that he knows the socket type he uses.

>We're looking for a junior plumber with agile PlumbOps experience and at least 5 years experience in both Kohler and Toto, Saniflo or American Standard certification would be a plus. Starting salary $35,000 plus bonuses.

>>105703866
They'll get AIs to prompt the AI.

>>105703185
heroic catch holy shit

All of you are retarded. There are multi millionaire nepo babies and cryptobros who did zero labor.

There is zero point in modern society money is fake and money is never earned or has any value.

>>105706963
Elon musk says grok will use ai to train the ai now.

>>105703185
imagine being this far ascended beyond early life and childhood

>>105707732
You still need to play by their game until it crumble. Most people don't even have the option of living inna wood.