Thread 105711036

will you buy a 3D printer?

In 2003, a 3D printer of plastics would cost 50 000 USD and nobody buys that

In 2013, it was possible to buy 1000 USD models

And today its even less: 200 to 500 USD for home printers

Are there legitimate uses for these at home?

>>105711036 (OP)
My evil contraptions

nah, you let your prints be printed by companies that have printers that cost 300k+.

however, prototyping stuff before you send it off is desirable. too bad resin is a shitshow and pla looks so fucking ugly. maybe things have changed..

>>105711036 (OP)
yes
need a new outlet faceplate? print it
need a pot lid holder? print it
need a new brake pedal switch pad in your car cause your 20 year old one disintegrated? print one
the elegoo centari carbon is only $300
after you print your first 20 household things it will pay for itself

>>105711036 (OP)
I want a cnc routing table more

They have uses for builders. They do not have uses for anyone else.

When can I 3d print a graphics card

>>105711036 (OP)
I already have three and make a few hundred bucks on the side by printing basic shit or replacement parts and also a bunch of money in coupons by uploading models.
I have no idea why /g/ has such a hateboner for 3D printers.
You can tell they are always stuck 10-15 years in the past and haven't bothered to keep up with 3d printers at all.

printing dildos

>>105711180
>you don't need an ssd bra

>>105711180
Whenever people shit on 3D printers or call them useless it always turns out that they never even owned one and haven't seen one since the early Ender 3 days.
Resin printing is still a bit more niche, but FDM printing has basicly been solved. PLA and PETG is enough for 99% of people out there, you can get it on basicly any color you could ever want, it's dirt cheap, you can get mixed ones with glas fiber or carbon etc. for really strong parts and slicer software is just one click idiot proof now including supports.But people still think all you print is benchys or fidget toys.
The moment you actually own a 3D printer you don't stop and notice how much stuff you can print and fix and sell. People will pay so much money for keychains from any popular anime/game/brand etc. or basic low poly/crochet figures.

I'm a tech working maintenance at a decently sized factory. We have a Bambu Lab X1C in the workshop that we use almost every day, from anything such as custom locking clips to complex replacement furniture for old machines. It's invaluable and saves us thousands.

I also have one at home that has become a standard part of my workflow when building or fixing shit.

/diy/ has a 3D printer general that's very active, FYI, but if you're a code monkey who can't even use a screwdriver then you have no use for a 3D printer.

>>105711036 (OP)
I have a prusa i3 mk3 bedslinger, it's not the latest greatest but it has been reliable for years and of occasional use. I have an amateur racecar that I sometimes need to fabricate parts for, a 3D printer is useful for
1) actually making parts if it's small and plastic is fine
2) seeing if a part I designed will fit before making it from more expensive materials
3) making jigs to hold materials so I can weld/drill holes accurately

I also used to make guns from cold war era demilled parts kits and it was useful on many occasions there as well. I don't really care for the printed printed guns thing, but again, using the printer to make jigs and such. The CETME receiver bending hydraulic press jigs cost more than the whole damn parts kit if you have to buy them.

I need a big plug in play printer
Funds: 1000$

>>105711180
The biggest problem is definitely people not keeping up with 3d printers. They stil still you have to pay thousands for really slow printers you have to built yourself, even though you can get really good fast printers now for 200-300 that just work out of the box like the Elegoo Centauri or Bambulab A1/A1 Mini.
And most printers aside from Bambu just run klipper which all the linux fanboys here would love.

>>105711284
Bambu Lab P1S.

It's the Mac of 3D printers.

>>105711307
>mac
Overpriced shit?

It's benefits are: prototyping mechanics and tooling in a machining or frabricating environment, jigging, clips / pins / plastic rivets / connectors / things of this nature, NLA parts for restorations of equipment / cars / etc, creating molds for casting and composites lay up.

It's benefits are not: creating tranime figurines

>>105711315
You could build one with the same functionalities yourself for half the price, and the software is locked down hard, but it's plug-and-play.

Ah yes, just consoom and buy things that you are not going to use.

>>105711333
Ok, something i can fix myself in case shit hits the nozzle?

>>105711284
If you can find one in stock, get the Elegoo Centauri Carbon, it easily outperforms anything even close to it.
Bambu P1P and P1S are one sale too if you are fine with the walled garden apple approach, but they are somewhat outdated at this point and overpriced.
The Centaurai is basicly just a better version of the P1S. Completely plug and play, just uses orcaslicer software (better open source version of bambus slicer) with premade settings for all different filaments etc.
People who still act like Bambu are the only plug and paly printers are stuck in 2020. Basicly any printer these days are just plug and play.

>>105711036 (OP)
What people usually don't get is that if you have CAD skills (even ultra basic skills in tinkercad, or better, watched a couple hours of fusion tutorials) and a $5 caliper, a 3d printer becomes 100x more useful.
Need a cap for something? 30 seconds in fusion
Need a custom fit tray for your car? 2 minutes in fusion
A small case for your aliexpress sensors and arduino nano? 10 minutes in fusion

>>105711295
I have a heavily modded ender3 from 2018 which at this point is basically fire and forget, but I am ogling those new fancy ultra fast coreXY machines
The elegoo is too good to be true at that price point
Should I pull the trigger?

>>105711360
Hope you like buying official parts.

>>105711383
Ok reccomend me something thats not apple like

>>105711369
Ok, fair enough. What filaments do you reccomend?

>>105711380
I've had mine for a month now with 100+ print hours and no issues. Even Bambu printers like the A1 mini are dirt cheap now.
The only printers that cost a lot these days are Prusa or huge 500x500cm printers.
The Centauri is pretty much the best you can get right now, it also comes with a hardened nozzle right away so you could even print stuff like carbon fiber or glass fiber filament.

>>105711057
Hope you don't use bambulab stuff, their software phones home with the geometry of whatever you were printing so there's no way you're printing a gun without someone knowing about it. They specifically started doing this only after Luigi Mangione shot that CEO.

>>105711135
in the forest

>>105711416
5 METER PRINTERS? Tell me more

>>105711405
PLA will be fine for almost anything, the brand barely matters. Just basic PLA or PLA matte etc. depending on what you print. I often buy 10kg PLA from Aliexpress and it just works.
If you want to print something that will be outside in the rain or sun for a long time get PETG instead, which is even cheaper.
I also recommend drying new filament spools for 4-5 hours. Either in a filament dryer or buy a used food dehydrator, they can fit a few spools at once.

>>105711431
Noted, ill reccomend you in my dept just send your email

I feel like 90% of small home diy stuff can be made with a plastic/wood, drill and other minimal tools. If there's no specific usecase for 3d printer in your case than it's gonna just sit and collect dust.

>>105711436
Whoops i meant mm. But there is the Elegoo Orange Giga, which can do 800x800x1000mm, but that one costs 2500 bucks. And can also hold up to 4 print heads to print a bunch of the same models at the same time.

>>105711436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzjJFon4c8E

>>105711463
I thought so too at first, but you suddenly notice how easy it is to just design fixes for everything.
Or printables/makerworld/thingiverse already have models for pretty much anything you could think of.

>>105711333
No you couldn't lmao
Bambu got popular because they where kicking the shit out of DIY builds for half the money.
P1s is $500, you can probably get a core xy for cheaper but not nearly as capable.

>>105711463
You are correct. They are for shop environments doing actual work. Mainly for prototyping mechanical systems and tooling, but also for re-creating NLA parts, jigs, custom brackets / clips / pins / etal. They are especially useful and time saving for creating molds for casting and composite layup.

Although, they are so cheap now that there's no real loss just getting one to fuck with. Like a laptop that 90% of people don't need, but have anyway.

You need to vent every 3d printer. Put them in a tent and vent the air outside. Maybe also put a diy air purifier in the tent. Even 'safe' filaments like PLA will produce nanoparticles (1-100nm) that are undetectable with any commercial particle tester. You'll be lucky if you get somewhat accurate 0.3 or 0.5 micron (300 or 500nm) measurments with them. All filaments also have a bunch of additives to make them print better and for color. VOCs are also a problem.
Particles that tiny get absorbed directly into the bloodstream from where they have access to every organ in your body. Even the brain.
Anyway, I have a P1S and it is pretty good. PLA is brittle garbage tbqh and useless for functional parts most of the time. TPU is awesome!!!

>>105711499
Yes you can, the P1P and P1S are outdated now. The Centauri Carbon for 300 is just a better version of the P1S and they will also release a non Carbon version without the housing for 200 which will basicly replace the P1P. They also use the "same" slicer and same filament profiles etc.
The only advantage that Bambu Lab always had ways multi color printing, but even that is useless now because Elegoo, Anycubic, Flashforge etc. all have their own mutlicolor systems that work the same way.

>>105711554
For PLA and PETG it only really matter if you would have mutliple printers in the same room you are in running all day.
I doubt most people will put them into their bedroom or living room and have them running all day.
Mine just sit in the basement and i barely open the windows down there.
But yes for nylon or asa you need an enclosed printer and they also have filters built in most of the time now. For PETG/PLA even having a window open in the same room or an enclosed printer will be enough.
Just don't sniff the nozzle all day while it's printing and you will be fine.

I want to buy my first 3D printer. Seems like the Creality K1 Max is a good choice or do you have any other recommendations? It should be around that price point and needs to have around the same feature set and be enclosed.

>>105711628
You are talking out of your ass. There is no data on long term effects when it comes to this shit. You think PLA is safe because it doesn't release toxic fumes like ASA does? These are VOCs.
PLA still releases plenty of nanoparticles (again, no youtuber will be able to detect them with their cheap temtop particle counter because the best it can do is 0.5 or 0.3 microns) and that shit can't be safe when the body has no way to deal with particles that small. There are all kinds of nasty correlations when it comes to air pollution. It's one of the biggest health concerns in the first world.

And no, an enclosed printer doesn't do shit. It's only good for heat. It will still leak dirty air like crazy. Venting directly from an enclosed printer can help because of the negative pressure it creates in the printer, but It's not a sealed system and will leak.

>>105711762
>and that shit can't be safe when the body has no way to deal with particles that small
PLA breaks down in the body
It's actually the one plastic that can deal with the microplastic scourge and only isn't used for basically everything because it can't stand up in the heat of the warehousing and transportation that happens with most goods.

>>105711077
>print anything you want bro

>out of dogshit

>>105711644
for that build plate? nah not really. what are you trying to print? in most cases you can get by with a 256x256x256 build plate.
elegoo centauri carbon is $300
the bambu p1s is $500
but if you want that bigger build volume then go for the k1 max. the k2 plus is better but also more expensive.you can always get a ams conversion kit down the road for the k1 max

Why not get a UV printer?

>>105711186
Not sanitary because of micro holes

>>105712021
>buys shit material
>cries
Use nylon bro.

>>105713244
I reserve them for maps

>>105711762
>IS NOT A SEALED SYSTEM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
So make it one you fucking idiot. You can buy a fucking enclosure for peanuts. Personally I just use my big fucking greenhouse fan and that does the job according to my particle meter. If I had a resin printer I'd enclose that shit for sure.

>>105711180
>>105711267
Because to make what you actually want (rather than downloading someone else's models) you need to be able to do 3D modelling. There aren't that many people who can do it well among /g/ users or normalfags, so it's absolutely useless for nearly everyone.

>>105711094
they do. Picrel is a random example on my desk right now (I modified the design so it clips onto my table)

>>105713645
>picrel
>no pic
figuring out chance

>>105711036 (OP)
hamstrung by models being centralized on rentseeking platforms that enforce paywalls, DRM, copyright, terms of service etc. It means to get real use out of it you also have to master the 3D modelling toolchain. I don't have time for that so I'll probably never buy one. Though AI might simply solve that problem and make those platforms obsolete someday.

>>105713567
Is it that hard to
>sketch
>extrude
>sketch
>extrude
>fillet
>fillet
>fillet
>fillet
>fillet
It gets the job done

>>105711573
you are shilling rather hard for a chink clone of the P1S. The Bambu printers are tried and tested and there are people with thousands of hours of printing on them in a professional capacity and they never break. Are they slightly overpriced? Yes. Is that Elegoo chink clone as reliable as a Bambu printer long-term whilst costing half the price? I FUCKING DOUBT IT.

If that Elegoo breaks only once and I have to buy it again, I would have been better off with a P1S from the start.

>but muh specs on paper
I have never used my P1S at max speed, except maybe once to test it. Most filaments do not like being printed at insane speeds. The P1S is already overkill in terms of speed, so anything above that is just a meme.

The only way I would buy that chink clone is if it was my first printer and I didn't know if I'll use it too much. For long-term reliability the Bambu printers are worth the extra cost.

>>105713812
thanks anon. i’ve been on the fence between the cc and the p1s. right now it’s a $200 difference between the two

>>105711036 (OP)
You can pay someone a few bucks to print a part for you on your local Craigslist equivalent. Also sometimes places like community centers have printers you can use for free. Only get a printer if you plan to print a lot. If you don't it's a waste of time and money.

>>105713847
As I said, if it's your first printer you could take a leap of fate on that chink clone and hope it doesn't break in 1 year, but that's entirely on what you intend to do. I have a friend with a 3D printer that has been sitting unused for years, but I also have another one who is printing like a madman. He has a Prusa Mk. 4 and is jelly of my P1S because he sold his Mk. 3 to buy the Mk. 4 even though I told him to buy a P1S instead. Turns out that the guy who sold him the Mk. 4 did that so that he could buy a P1S. Basically he shilled him his Mk. 4 and praised it as an amazing printer, only to dump it on him so he can buy a P1S instead lol. Now my friend feels like a retard left holding the bag.

As for me, I'm somewhere in between. I don't go full retard with printing non-stop, but if I can print something myself either by 3D modelling it in Tinkercad or if I can find it on Maker World, I'll do that instead of buying it. It helps that I have a variety of filament spools for any situation. Even have some expensive carbon-fiber nylon that I'm saving for really important shit.
Now don't get me wrong, I don't have a personal vendetta against that chink clone, but I'm very utilitarian and the prepper type, so I want my shit to be reliable, which the Bambu printers proved they are, whilst the Elegoo pretends to be better without being battle tested. If the economy collapse or we get into WW3 and the global supply chain turns to shit, I don't want to worry that my 3D printer will break 6-12 months from now.

>>105713994
i’m upgrading from an old ass ender 3. i print often but not crazy. i will find something i need around the house and try to print it first before buying something

they are so cheap they are a nice thing to buy even if you never use them except for stuff like cases for raspberry pi's, cable management shit, etc

but if you think youre gonna buy one and start a small business with one youre smoking crack. my local fb marketplace is full of people selling stuff that takes 5+ hours to print for like 5 dollars. theres infinite amount of people that have zero valuation for their time that will completely crash a market just to feel like they are making money by selling an item.

>>105713502
He can print a negative of the dildo and cast it with silicone resin.

>>105711554
Zoomers have microplastics basically imprinted in their DNA, breathing some of it won't make a difference.

>>105711036 (OP)
Been thinking of getting one for a while, but I'm stuck finishing university so i can't afford it for now. The elegoo centauri carbon looks interesting i might get it a couple of months.
I've been wanting to build an air duct to be able to fit 120mm fans on my gpu for a while because asus fans are ridiculously loud. I also need to replace plastic parts every now and then, so 3d printers can be very useful.

>>105711036 (OP)
>In 2003, a 3D printer of plastics would cost 50 000 USD and nobody buys that
>In 2013, it was possible to buy 1000 USD models
>And today its even less: 200 to 500 USD for home printers
WRONG

Are you a bot, or did you get this info from AI??
The first commercially available FMD 3d printer was for sale in 2009 and cost about $1000. I still have mine somewhere. It's a peice of shit made of laser cut plywood, but it was the only thing of it's kind at the time.
In 2013 you could buy a cheap chinese reprap build it yourself kit for $200-$300
Today you could get a fully assembled printer for that price range.

>>105711188
Why would my SSD need a bra? It's not sagging.

>>105711380
I've seen more than a couple of people say that their Centauri Carbon either came broken or broke with very little use and Elegoo refused to offer any sort of support. Get a Prusa if you want something that just works, or one of the Sovol Vorons if you want something easy to tinker with and upgrade.

>>105716961
>The first commercially available FMD 3d printer was for sale in 2009 and cost about $1000
Are you sure about that?

>>105711180
I've never touched a 3d printer, and probably never will because i can't be bothered with learning CAD (i already filled my brain with useless shit on how to use video/audio editing software) but there's literally no reason to hate 3d printers unless you're too retarded to learn CAD and are insecure about it.
The only legit complaint i can see about 3d printers is adding to the microplastics problem.

>>105714193
got an ender that I haven't used for few years. I just don't really care anymore, I adapt shit with anything else. seems like people are just looking for shit to "fix" just so they have an excuse to use a 3d printer.
>oh it improved my life so much
no it didn't, the amount of people who NEED a 3d printer is way lower than how many people already have one

>>105713567
blender is free.
plenty of tutorials on youtube.
you are choosing to not learn it, which is fine, because i also choose not to learn it, but i have no problems with those who have.
an intellectual insecurity.

>>105713502
more places for the cum lube to ooze through

>>105711431
based guider of glowie avoidance
fuck the government, these glowniggers can't even stop REAL niggers from turning communities into food deserts what makes them think I'll have any sort of loyalty for their data-spying asses?

>>105717075
Blender is a mesh modeler, you really want a parametric CAD modeler for 3d printing.

Good news is CAD is easier to pickup IMO

>>105711036 (OP)
I love the idea, but I hate the material and waste.

>>105712021
Basically this

>>105713517
My outlet covers are stainless steel and easy to clean. Your shit plastics are shit and you are only happy because you can print them yourself. If you could print stainless steel, you would be calling those who print nylon retarded poorfags even though you defend that material today.

You are a retard.

>>105711535
Prototyping is one of their valid use cases where the parts don't have to last. You can print, try, and then actually get the part made properly.
Printer simps truly don't understand that they're printing garbage not meant to last.

>>105717075
my time isn't free bitch

>>105717128
uh huh, that's why you're wasting it on here, for free.
learning to 3d print would take precious time away from gooning and playing LoL right?

>>105717116
which only proves that it's a choice not to learn 3d printing, rather than a legit complaint.
people really need to stop thinking they need an objective reason not to pick it up.
I openly choose not to learn the software, i probably could, but i just have 0 motivation to, and that's fine.

>>105717123
>My outlet covers are stainless steel and easy to clean. Your shit plastics are shit and you are only happy because you can print them yourself. If you could print stainless steel, you would be calling those who print nylon retarded poorfags even though you defend that material today.
>You are a retard.
what kind of cope is this?
there are some things that shouldnt be printed in metal, and some things that should.
this is the most brain dead take ive ever heard.

>>105711463
Technically yes but I 3d print shit all the time I could make out of wood just because it can print while I'm doing something else.
Example: I needed adapters for the wrong tweeter size I bought for my car. I could measure and cut plywood parts or I could just download the stl, hit print, and have them ready by the time my door speakers are in.
I'm waiting for laser cutter/cnc/3dprint combo machines. Then I could prototype in plastic and finalize parts using just one machine. Needs to be under $2k though.
>>105717123
>Printer simps truly don't understand that they're printing garbage not meant to last
Yeah I should've made my speaker adapters out of titanium so my great great great grandkids could pass them on to THEIR kids. Dumbass.

>>105711036 (OP)
I bought one and it's great especially as a collectibles creator. $2 in plastic to make something that costs $50 in the store.

>>105711036 (OP)
I can make about $200-400 a month extra income (after all expenses in it) printing custom fightan game boards
not a lot but its fire and forget and I enjoy the assembly and the machine only cost me like $340

>>105718022
okay but how many hours of priting for a piece you sell at $50

>>105711036 (OP)

my modded e3v2 still works somehow, way above default speeds also.
Weird how durable things are when they are not victims of planned obsolescence.

>>105711077
What pajeet wrote this?
>new outlet faceplate
The what?
> pot lid holder
The what?
>new brake pedal switch pad in your car
WTF!?
>in your car
I see you are 3D printing your way into a early grave have fun!

>>105711036 (OP)
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>>105711180
/g/ in general loves to just shit on things they don't know anything about, have never used or haven't kept up with the technology in years.
OLED is another prime example.