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Anonymous No.105713472 >>105715770 >>105716550 >>105722459 >>105722459 >>105730066 >>105737048 >>105738315 >>105751337
/utwg/ - Unemployable Tech Workers General
>Interviewing
Neetcode 150: https://neetcode.io/practice
Tips and interview practice: https://blog.interviewing.io/

>How to write a resume
https://stackoverflow.blog/2020/11/25/how-to-write-an-effective-developer-resume-advice-from-a-hiring-manager/

>Salary Stuff
"What's your expected salary?": https://www.fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/salary-expectations-interview-question/
Negotiation advice: https://github.com/petermekhaeil/salary-negotiating
Salary data: https://levels.fyi/

>Software Development & Programming
GitHub Trending - https://github.com/trending
DevDocs - https://devdocs.io/
JavaScript, CSS, HTML sandbox - https://jsfiddle.net/
MDN Web Docs - https://developer.mozilla.org/
Stack Overflow Blog - https://stackoverflow.blog/

>IT Operations & Infrastructure
AWS Service Health Dashboard - https://status.aws.amazon.com/
Cloudflare System Status - https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
DownDetector - https://downdetector.com/
Microsoft Azure Status - https://status.azure.com/
Microsoft Office 365 Status - https://portal.office.com/servicestatus

>Unemployment Advice
Interview Prep - https://www.wikihow.com/Ask-Your-Parents-for-Money
Building a Resume - https://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-Manifesto
Salary Stuff - https://www.usa.gov/benefit-finder/disability
Emotional Support - https://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods
People who will be joining us shortly - https://layoffs.fyi

>International Job Boards
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/
Indeed - https://www.indeed.com/
Hiring Cafe - https://hiring.cafe/
YCombinator - https://www.workatastartup.com/companies
Wellfound - https://wellfound.com/jobs

>Anti-Pajeet Job Boards
USAJobs - https://www.usajobs.gov/
Clearancejobs - https://www.clearancejobs.com/

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>>105684449
Anonymous No.105714433 >>105714614 >>105745157
it's over
Anonymous No.105714614
>>105714433
Checked and overpilled
Anonymous No.105714872
>interviewer said they'd send me the date/time in ten minutes
>its been three days

They really are just pretending to work, aren't they
Anonymous No.105715159 >>105744600 >>105751883
my product design interview today went pretty well, supposedly i'll have a few more interviews before they come to a decision. one with the product director, another one with the team, and a final assessment which they're not sure if they will need
it's a small company so on their end they're kind of blind when it comes to this process, they're interviewing candidates at multiple levels and i'm kind of honestly surprised they moved me forward when they had well over 350 applicants, but the role seems like a good match i can only see myself getting cucked by someone who's more senior or has had more experience as a founding designer
Anonymous No.105715770 >>105716118 >>105716558
>>105713472 (OP)
damn this general dead asf everyone found jobs nice
Anonymous No.105716118
>>105715770
Nah I have just given up kvetching
Anonymous No.105716533 >>105717462
I have a few months before something bad happens if I can't find a job :)
Anonymous No.105716550 >>105732005
>>105713472 (OP)
>first thing on this general is some neetcode faggotry
get some skills and make projects you fucks, if you're doing this shit just for a job go do work at mcdonalds
Anonymous No.105716558
I'm unironically considering trying to get on disability and just living off of NEETbux for the rest of my life.
Either that or I'll try to start my own business which will probably fail but I do think there's a market for it, the issue is I don't currently have the technical skill, starting capital, and connections to get it really taken off.

>>105715770
There's no point in posting the same thing over and over again, the job market sucks, everyone knows this.
Anonymous No.105716755
You guys have any experience with Peace Corps? Is it a good way to neet until the market recovers?
Anonymous No.105717108
honestly think I just threw away a dream job opportunity because I made some bad assumptions about the interview process and didn't revise the right things. I aced the take home challenge, I aced the system design, and the leetcodes but fucked up on the basic stuff I originally learned in high-school, and now I'm going to have to wait another 30 weeks before I finally get an chance hahhahahahahaa oh my god

and now I have to wait a full week before I find out whether i actually failed or not

I'm so fucking worthless, I'm so fucking stupid, I'm so fucking embarrassing, I'm so fucking useless, I'm so fucking retarded, I'm so fucking incompetent I'm so fucking shameful. Kill me now kill me w kill me now aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anonymous No.105717462
>>105716533
at least do something good for society on your way out
Anonymous No.105717996 >>105719467
Will it be a waste of time and money if I went for a CompTIA Security+ cert?
Gave up on the idea of getting a development job and want to try getting into IT or cybersec even if it's just like help-desk level shit. Allegedly the cybersecurity job market is supposed to stay growing.
Anonymous No.105718117
Has anyone here completed the Cloud Resume Challenge using Azure?
Anonymous No.105718302
I blew it after connecting with someone in the company and being overly formal in my messages. Now the person hasn't responded. I'm so fucking rusty with corporate behavior. Even a slight chance at a cushy gig gone just like that.
Anonymous No.105718365 >>105718410 >>105722329 >>105722476 >>105728666
How the FUCK are computer nerds not able to get jobs now, even with certifications and degrees? I graduated high school in the late 00s and was jelly of the dudes who were smart enough to get compsci degrees and shit.
Anonymous No.105718410
>>105718365
Because of a very successful decade long campaign to flood the market with workers.
Anonymous No.105718448 >>105724358
how do you cope as a degreecel?
Anonymous No.105718902 >>105721419
I'm seriously considering just dropping out and working some menial job
Anonymous No.105719467 >>105719562
>>105717996
Sec+ is great for goverment jobs. You should read A+/Net+ content to get the basics of IT down before taking Sec+. Actual helpdesk questions are mostly spread between all 3 tests but Sec+ will get you the job.
Anonymous No.105719562 >>105720032
>>105719467
>You should read A+/Net+ content to get the basics of IT down before taking Sec+
I already took classes that covered the basics of A+, Net+ and Sec+ content at a community college but didn't bother getting the certs because I fell for the programming degree meme. I took a free online practice exam earlier without studying first just to see how much I knew and I got around a 70% on it, so it shouldn't take much studying and review for me to get an acceptable grade.

I initially wanted to avoid government contracting work because of muh edgy 4channer anti-establishment pride but I realized recently that whether you work for the govt or for big tech, you're still working for the same system that wants you replaced, the difference is just that visajeets and border-hoppers can't steal your government contractor job as quickly.

Thanks for the response anon
Anonymous No.105720032 >>105732549
>>105719562
Also I recommend Boson for testing material. Best formatting and easy to follow. Udemy is real hit and miss with its formatting and often times your paying for video content that already exists for free on youtube.

Your not winning in this job market. Get your Masters degree, certs, and learn as much as you can at the job because we are now living in east asian competition territory. If you one day have kids then you need to cram as many books in there brains as possible. Get them good at math if you want them to have jobs that pay really well and if need be pay for there degrees. Its only getting worse as the years drag on.
Anonymous No.105720595 >>105720705
After 2.5 months of having applied to register my company, the government finally came back with an update that they are finally processing my request. There is less than a 50% chance they approve it despite having client prospects, VC's asking to invest, a working prototype, and good market research. On average it can take 6 months to get accepted and the only thing to do if they refuse is to apply again.

I love this country but god damn some parts are really annoying.
Anonymous No.105720705 >>105721121
>>105720595
What shit hole country would reject an application if you have potential investors and a prototype?
Anonymous No.105721121 >>105753515
>>105720705
A certain european country that has a weird fetish for fucking with people under the guise of money laundering laws when it couldn't apply less.
Anonymous No.105721419 >>105721429 >>105722221
>>105718902
Don't.
>t. Menial-laborcel
Anonymous No.105721429 >>105722012
>>105721419
explain
Anonymous No.105721585 >>105721676
What's the point of fake job listings?
Someone told me that companies post a job listing even if they already have someone lined up, usually internally, for the job because they "have to". Why would they have to?
Anonymous No.105721606 >>105721693 >>105721824 >>105743027
>BSc in AI
>currently MSc in AI
>employed as a salesman at a tech store
>16eur waging
:)
Anonymous No.105721676
>>105721585
it's the law. Either the internal must compete with everyone else or they must prove nobody in the country is suitable to be allowed to hire externally
Anonymous No.105721693 >>105741949
>>105721606
I wish I were you. I get rejeccted from all sales positions despite having been very successful as a sales engineer and having a thorough tech background which is always a plus.
You think your position sucks but it's a quick ramp to a commission position in a software sales job which can easily net mid 6 figs if you're good
Anonymous No.105721756
US spending data for may is in.
Verdict: it's horrible
Anonymous No.105721824
>>105721606
>you will code nothing and be happy
Anonymous No.105722012 >>105722060 >>105722095 >>105722101 >>105722221 >>105751935
>>105721429
It's sucks. You're education and abilities go to waste. You get paid shit for doing shit work and getting treated like shit. You have no upward mobility.
Every day you get a little older and your resume gets a little worse. If you can avoid it you should.
Anonymous No.105722060 >>105722221 >>105751935
>>105722012
>20 years later
>Anon is a floor manager at some Costco barely making 30hr wondering where his life went
>Costco hot dogs now cost 14$ with relish and onions there 18$
Anonymous No.105722095 >>105722202
>>105722012
If nothing else it should motivate you to push harder (assuming you have the energy). But I've got the muscles of the worlds strongest indian so it'd literally kill me.
Anonymous No.105722101 >>105722202
>>105722012
wow, just like in tech!
Anonymous No.105722202 >>105722217
>>105722095
>>105722101
Except you are bored out of your mind and you cannot save any money/afford anything
Anonymous No.105722217
>>105722202
wow, just like in tech!
Anonymous No.105722221 >>105722229 >>105722260 >>105722290
>>105721419
>>105722012
skill issue, try actually just finding jobs w/ upward mobility instead of just getting the first thing you see. lots of just normal companies you can get jobs at and move up
>>105722060
>People think the only jobs people can get are at grocery stores and places they go
so fucking low agency you guys are pathetic as hell, you'd be pathetic in ANY industry it doesn't matter if you get a degree. You are such losers you'd fail with that, the issue is you are a FAG not what route you are taking.
Anonymous No.105722229 >>105722238 >>105722533
>>105722221
t. dropped out of high school and got a bunch of random weird jobs that "required education" (they don't) and make 140k now
Anonymous No.105722238 >>105722246
>>105722229
such as?
Anonymous No.105722246 >>105722271
>>105722238
you are a fucking faggot jesus christ THINK, LOOK AROUND YOU, TAKE SOME INITIATIVE
Anonymous No.105722260
>>105722221
Sorry anon most people have low agency and never dream of bigger or better. They only consume and do drugs. I also make 150k working in a networking NOC position dropped out of high school middle of 10th grade. Now I have 2 bachelors and 1 masters degree working a do nothing job. If you have to keep working hard towards your goals. Luck is only there if you work towards providing the opportunities. Also this is poor fag money compared to programmers who worked hard in school to get CS degrees at real universities.
Anonymous No.105722271 >>105722280
>>105722246
I accept your surrender
Anonymous No.105722280 >>105722294
>>105722271
your entire life is accepting surrender
Anonymous No.105722282 >>105722313 >>105731787
any eu people itt?

>almost 8 years of job experience in it
>a myriad of 1st and 2nd level stuff as the sole hospital it guy
>shit pay
>get home at like half past 3pm

gotten a bunch of offers but its either "we want it to be in the office now" or "our work hours are until 7 pm" bullshit

sometimes i really think i should not have gone with IT
Anonymous No.105722290
>>105722221
>Lots of normal companies you can get jobs and move up
Care to elaborate? The only thing there is demand for in the US that isn't hyper specialized is menial labor
Anonymous No.105722294 >>105722306
>>105722280
Correct. I am a chronic winner and conqueror.
Anonymous No.105722306
>>105722294
kek
Anonymous No.105722313 >>105722328
>>105722282
>hospital it
lol
lmao

Anyway, remote is largely going away if you're not located in hyderabad. Acxept relocation or enjoy your dead end position.
Anonymous No.105722328
>>105722313
already looking for positions away from my home town with the condition 80-100% home office
but it seems impossible at the moment, every company wants it in the office 24/7

>lol lmao
yeah... while i can just go and wfh, illegaly, some days i'm behind 20-30% salary for my positon on the market
Anonymous No.105722329
>>105718365
Because of the learn to code meme, also the entire population of India decided to get into tech
Anonymous No.105722356 >>105722395
Starting my own menial labor company. Turns out filing the paperwork is easier than doing job applications and resume.
Anonymous No.105722395
>>105722356
Labor is easy. If they can read, do basic arithmetic and fill out a sheet of paper then there hired.
Anonymous No.105722459 >>105722503
>>105713472 (OP)
month 10 of post-graduation unemployment, my grades weren't good enough to do a PhD so here I am rotting because I'm just out of steam for writing endless cover letters and can't bring myself to stack sh>>105713472 (OP)
elves either
Anonymous No.105722476 >>105722524 >>105731722
>>105718365
unironically everything is outsourced to india now, the situation is even worse in europe than it is in america
Anonymous No.105722503 >>105722571
>>105722459
You are lucky that your grades were too bad for a PhD. A PhD is the worst trap you can ever get into. Toral career killer and 90% chance you will never find a postdoc (required for any faculty position). University 'helper' jobs (e.g. programmers in a lab) have been basically non-existent since 2020 and they're laying off the few that still exist there (so people with fucking 20 years on-staff) for "economic reasons".
Anonymous No.105722524 >>105722561 >>105742503
>>105722476
it's actually very very good in europe compared to the us. Still bad but nobody in europe is allowed to complaim given how good we have it.
Anonymous No.105722533 >>105722553 >>105722707
>>105722229
You're either lying or a gen X relic of a bygone time. it doesn't work like that anymore. Companies can hire internationally. Online boards let them find exactly what they are looking for, every time, out of 1000s of applicants all over the world. The days of high school dropoutd gradually building successful lives are long gone. Even specialists with all the proper qualifications and proven experience are getting squeezed into shit roles because there are not enough jobs, especially when you are competing with chang and remotesh
Anonymous No.105722553
>>105722533
don't respond to b8, it emboldens them.
Anonymous No.105722561 >>105722592
>>105722524
I should have specified im bongistani, help me
Anonymous No.105722571 >>105722599
>>105722503
EE, Comp E and ECE can program the same shit. Only reason to do a PhD is if its semiconductors. That is even harder to get into and you better be hot shit from an Ivy league with endless knowledge on everything IT/Programming/EE/Engineering or be a Physicist/Chemist which actually run the research departments at that level.

PhD and Doctorates are a meme at the end of the day you could just contract out to a research lab with a Masters degree and work experience and do the same shit.
Anonymous No.105722592 >>105722717
>>105722561
Can't speak for UK, but come into the EU then.
Anonymous No.105722599 >>105722636
>>105722571
You are retarded
Anonymous No.105722636
>>105722599
Anonymous No.105722707
>>105722533
nigga most buisnesses are still small buisnesses yes you won't get a job a google who gives a shit. I worked in a warehouse but then got a graphic design job at some tiny company with 16 employees then pivoted that into a webdev job at another tiny company with 3 employees, now im actually at a good sized tech company.
Anonymous No.105722717 >>105722837
>>105722592
unironically isn't open, I speak passable german and know several (indians) from my masters that have gotten jobs on the continent who I KNOW don't speak german, but all I get is endless rejection emails. I've got half a mind to think I'm getting rejected specifically due to my nationality since the germans have got a real grudge about brexit
Anonymous No.105722837 >>105722856 >>105742503
>>105722717
germany is like the worst country in the eu to want to go to lmao.
Yes the pay is better on paper, but people are really shitty, shitskins are everywhere, and col is high. You don't even get good food or booze like you do in spain, france or italy to compensate.
Anonymous No.105722856 >>105722939
>>105722837
where would you say to go then? I considered Northern Italy but I don't speak Italian and the pay isn't great, presuming they'd be willing to visa sponsor a new grad in the first place
Anonymous No.105722939
>>105722856
Just apply to everything that looks interesting, dumbass. You'll find out who is open or closed to sponsor, where your favored jobs cluster and where they're rare, and where language matters or not.
Anonymous No.105723196 >>105723559
Skibbidi rizzlers that were in high school when I got laid off are getting jobs mow
Anonymous No.105723257 >>105723385
Is there any website that breaks down how sought after certain languages/frameworks/etc are by region?
Anonymous No.105723385
>>105723257
Here's the only in-demand setup
>etc.
Willing to work for $5/hour
>framework
Caste
>language
Hindi
>Region
Hyderabad
Anonymous No.105723559 >>105723587
>>105723196
ALso marrying
Anonymous No.105723587 >>105723610
>>105723559
Idaf about that I just want a job
Anonymous No.105723610 >>105723794
>>105723587
Well you're in luck GenZs only know ipads and phones
Anonymous No.105723794 >>105723805 >>105723807
>>105723610
cope, all the trannies that keep ruining FOSS projects are zoomers
Anonymous No.105723805
>>105723794
this is why foss died 10 years ago
Anonymous No.105723807
>>105723794
Gen z spotted
Anonymous No.105724358 >>105728529 >>105738109
>>105718448
I hope the whore and the roid freak both die horribly.
Anonymous No.105724509 >>105724568 >>105724707 >>105724840
>stop applying for 3 weeks as I work on other stuff
>go through every application I missed
>3 (three) junior roles in those 3 weeks
>1 "must have 1-2 years experience"
>1 was AI and wanted relevant knowledge
>the other has "high application volume"
It's never been more over.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XEELKEZboBI
Anonymous No.105724568 >>105724633 >>105724707 >>105724840
>>105724509
Ridiculous how many junior roles expect you to have worked for 2-5 years already lmao
Anonymous No.105724633
>>105724568
that's just a way for corps to say "see, we're hiring for new graduates but they just don't meet our expectations!!!" so then they can go and hire indians who have 'experience' working in a call center for 3 years and pay them a pittance
Anonymous No.105724707 >>105724709 >>105724840 >>105724956
>>105724509
>>105724568
>"entry level" helpdesk 1 position for $18/hr
>Bachelor's degree required
>3-5yrs experience minimum
The sheer amount of listings I see for <$20/hr and/or with "entry level" in the name that also require multiple years of experience is absolutely fucking insane, even moreso if they require a degree as well
Requiring a combined decade of school and experience for an entry level job that pays less than Walmart is downright insulting
Anonymous No.105724709 >>105725009
>>105724707
Cheap labour
Anonymous No.105724755 >>105724787 >>105728114 >>105728535 >>105745031
Gentlemen how are we today?
Anonymous No.105724787
>>105724755
Hanging from the bathroom.
Anonymous No.105724840
>>105724509
>>105724568
>>105724707
>remember laughing at MBAs for having this same issue
>now it's happening to me
The MBA's are laughing now.
Anonymous No.105724956
>>105724707
this bullshit is all kayfabe. companies do it without the intention of actually hiring anyone so they can cry to the government about how nobody wants to work so give us H-1Bs and tax cuts pwetty pwease
Anonymous No.105725009 >>105725370
>>105724709
Wild that computer Ranjeshes are now cheaper than day labor Juans
Anonymous No.105725219 >>105731200 >>105744652
i just want a 100% home office job ffs
i just want to do server admin
let juniors handle the hardware and 1st level

holy fucking SHITTTTTTT
Anonymous No.105725370
>>105725009
you've got to provide the raw material for Juans, Ranjesh you're truly just paying for a body
Anonymous No.105725462 >>105725495 >>105725526
lol these linkedin easy apply listings get 1000-2000 applicants where normal postings get about 200-400
Anonymous No.105725495
>>105725462
all the fags who use bots to apply are making their own lives harder by flooding the applicant pool beyond what humans can even parse through
Anonymous No.105725526 >>105725696
>>105725462
Funnily, posts that require us citizenship (clearance eligibility) get <100 in a 24 hour period.
What's that all about
Anonymous No.105725696
>>105725526
mostly those jobs pay nothing at all
Anonymous No.105726116 >>105726202 >>105727547 >>105734971
frontend developer roles are slowly going away. its just fullstack/backend now. remember, frontend used to have the highest number of job listings till last year
Anonymous No.105726202
>>105726116
Fullstack became the only thing in existance around 2015. You're 10 yeara behind.
Anonymous No.105726656
>Its another ESL pajeeta staffing agency associate writes strict job requirements that aren't even coherent English phrases episode

These people have jobs and I don't.
Anonymous No.105727547
>>105726116
a lot of them are just ui or ux engineer now
Anonymous No.105728013
>made more my 1st month selling carts to teenagers on snapchat than I ever did from webdev
Anonymous No.105728114 >>105728683
>>105724755
Still dooming. I don't even look at job boards. I kind of don't want a tech job anymore, but I don't have anything to put on a resume for anything else. Tried Best Buy, they rejected me fast.
Anonymous No.105728529 >>105737971
>>105724358
Do you really think that guy is a roid freak?
Anonymous No.105728535
>>105724755
Good, thanks for asking
Anonymous No.105728573 >>105728869
Hello anons, I hope I'm posting this in the right place (if not, please tell me where it would be more appropriate):
So following situation, I dropped out of university after 4 years (CS - German University), mainly because I hated what I was studying and also because the covid lockdowns absolutely ruined me mentally (doing much better now).

I'm now thinking of applying for entry level software sales jobs in Ireland, since I heard there's good demand for people who speak German and English fluently. But how do I make my CV? Should I just mention where I studied but not leave out the fact that I didn't get a degree? Should I "shorten" the time I spent studying so it doesn't look that bad? And to make things worse, I basically have zero work experience beside working in my parents' small business, but I was more of a helping hand and mainly taking care of bureaucratic things, so it's not like I was officially employed.

Is there even a point in applying for such jobs in Ireland, or would I be wasting my time? Any alternatives beside putting the fries in the bag at McDonald's? To be honest, it might seem contradictory to what I've already mentioned about myself, but (lack of) intelligence wasn't really my issue, but rather the fact that I was naive and lacked the will and motivation to study something I hated, which is how I ended up in this situation.

Anyways, thanks for reading my semi-gay reply and I would appreciate and tips and advice.
Anonymous No.105728593 >>105728615
Should I start drinking before interviews? I'm really autistic and have social anxiety
Anonymous No.105728615
>>105728593
Phenibut. Don't use it on the regular, because it is addictive.
Anonymous No.105728666
>>105718365
Juniors (so basically all the people who got CS degrees because of the lern2code meme) got automated out of the industry by LLM's.
Anonymous No.105728683
>>105728114
last time i went to best buy everyone but the manager was either a jeet or a shaniqua so i wouldn't feel too shameful about that
Anonymous No.105728869 >>105754629
>>105728573
>entry level software sales jobs in Ireland
Can't help you much here since I'm a burger but you usually shouldn't need lots of in-depth technical knowledge for sales, it's more about being charismatic and able to negotiate but having a small background in tech would help. Certifications help a lot with entry-level IT stuff as well.

>Should I just mention where I studied but not leave out the fact that I didn't get a degree?
Put where you studied but don't explicitly state that you didn't get a degree. If they ask just tell them you didn't complete your degree. If they ask why, just say you were helping with your family business or taking care of relatives, or make up some bullshit like considering different majors or careers at the time and you didn't want to fully devote yourself to a degree, or any other "good" excuse for dropping out of college.
Listing some college education is better than listing no college education.

>I basically have zero work experience beside working in my parents' small business, but I was more of a helping hand and mainly taking care of bureaucratic things, so it's not like I was officially employed
You should still list this as work experience and give background on what exactly you helped with.

>lacked the will and motivation to study something I hated
If you hate CS and tech stuff you should find a different career path now since it's only going to get harder to get a job and salaries will keep going down due to outsourcing, immigration, and AI, so if you don't enjoy working in this field and just want money, you're not going to enjoy your future.
Anonymous No.105729011 >>105729276
It's insane how long some of these companies take to process applications... how can it take weeks for a stupid HR lady to just make a phone call...
Anonymous No.105729276 >>105729751 >>105730775 >>105731227 >>105731611
>>105729011
I am from the other end of getting you guys hired.

>5 job openings in the company
>5000 job applications of various qualities
>some are auto apply, head hunters or what we really care about is direct applications from our website
>fuck it to many people lets cut anyone without a degree (old fags get fucked)
>still to many but i can sort these for entry if they do not have a masters degree (entry gets fucked too many masters degrees)
>3 page resumes or longer get trashed
>not enough job experience gets trashed
left with 500 job applications fuck i wish i could just source these from only US and only my neighboring states. Would make the non committed(unwilling to move) applications get dropped from my list entirely.
Anonymous No.105729751 >>105730025
>>105729276
So you ended up with roughly 100 pretty decent applications for each opening. Although I know you wanted to get more local candidates. Do you usually get that many applications? I'm trying to figure out how saturated the market is right now. I know it's bad, I just don't know how bad.

Personally, I was able to find a job as a code monkey in 2 weeks in 2021. Now I'm unemployed again looking for a new job and its taken 2 months so far with very few bites.
Anonymous No.105730025
>>105729751
Expect 6 months from now. When we got 100 apps per position you would have to wait 1 month to get a job with roughly 1/10 still being qualified. Companies used to do +1 if there were good candidates but that time of endless growth in the market has passed.
Anonymous No.105730066 >>105730523
>>105713472 (OP)
Is that wojak supposed to be Michel Houellebecq? What would he have to do with tech workers?
Anonymous No.105730187
>graduate with IT degree
>6 certifications
>sysadmin internship
>previous job doing hell desk
>got a r630 running proxmox
>spend my free either shitposting or reading about shit to do on said server
>still cannot get a job doing anything

i'm still getting interviews even though I've been unemployed for seven months but holy shit it's bad. the interviews aren't even interviews anymore they're just HR astrology.

at this point i hope this country collapses, at least then you can't import indians to help you grow food
Anonymous No.105730523
>>105730066
He wrote books about tech workers
Anonymous No.105730775 >>105733161
>>105729276
Man this is depressing.
Do you guys go through every qualified candidate first and see who's the best fit, or if you find someone that fits the bill before going through all of them do you just hire said candidate and tell everyone else to get fucked?
Anonymous No.105731200
>>105725219
>let juniors handle the hardware and 1st level
What juniors?
Anonymous No.105731227 >>105731677 >>105733161
>>105729276
Have you ever sat down and gone through the full list for research purposes to find how many qualify? I'm wondering how inflated they are by jeets and desperate juniors spamming without meeting minimum qualifications (before you're forced to filter everyone for not having a phd of course).
Anonymous No.105731611
>>105729276
please kill yourself. Happy to help :)
Anonymous No.105731677 >>105731747 >>105731796 >>105733161
>>105731227
I'm ot him and I did that a few times. Unlike that cretin I never 'cut off' people, I just derank them. I then go through the list top to bottom for interview scheduling.
I have hired for companies with anywhwre from 5 to 120 employees.
In the 120 employee company, we would get about 500 applicarions for a role. I takes about an hour to properly read and rank all 500 including a quick glance at github and the cover letter. I am sure I could be even faster in the first pass with a 2 stage approach. About half (every time) were immediately ineligible (e.g. fake pajeets and such). After that, I can usually eliminate 20% based on a more thorough check e.g. github only containing copy-pasted projects but the resume claiming those projects as new and personal inventions (i.e. frauds).
Finally about 90% fail a quick tech screen (e.g. don't know what the modulo operator is, has too much of a surface unserstanding of programming concepts, or thought he was not going to get caught using chatgpt to talk about basic stuff that even freshmen should know).
In one company they immediately sent an offer to the first match. Another wqited to have 3 in the pipeline so they can immediately turn around if the 1st choice refuses.
In the end we tick everyone in the ats and send the rejection email.
Anonymous No.105731722
>>105722476
To be fair we Europeans barely get paid more than Indians to begin with.
Anonymous No.105731747 >>105731778
>>105731677
not reading that
Anonymous No.105731778
>>105731747
didn't ask
Anonymous No.105731787
>>105722282
Hybrid is the future while remote is reserved for those with really good qualifications.
Anonymous No.105731796 >>105731875
>>105731677
>e.g. github only containing copy-pasted projects
rip me then, I only use github as display for my projects, when I'm finished with it locally I make a repo for it.
Having to be top out of 250 is rough in this climate, I'm sure you get seniors applying to junior roles just to stay employed.
Anonymous No.105731851
I didn't even know there were slack admin certifications, who even has that?
>"be an early applicant" after 17 days
No one, that's who.
Anonymous No.105731875
>>105731796
Yes. But that doesn't mean they pass interviews. We got a guy with 10 yoe fullstack who didn't know how to do modular arithmetic at all, even hacking it with if's. And he was white.
Anonymous No.105731886 >>105731968 >>105732061
Salesforce pledged to never again hire software people. It's over.
Anonymous No.105731935
I am starting in a week. I will miss these threads. may I come visit once in a while?
Anonymous No.105731968 >>105731989
>>105731886
>“30% Productivity Boost” from AI
I call bullshit. probably just cost cutting, and selling pipe dreams to appease shareholders.
Anonymous No.105731989
>>105731968
pwc also said they're reducing the cost of their offering because they can now perform tasks faster due to ai. Much more transparent lie there of course (they're not getting business anymore so forced to reduce prices)
Anonymous No.105732005 >>105743342
>>105716550
This lmao jumping through so many hoops just to land a job in a oversaturated dying industry which is also getting decimated by offshoring and AI automation.
Anonymous No.105732061 >>105732072
>>105731886
I can see this news has been regurgitated over and over since at least December. they are really pushing this cope hard.
Anonymous No.105732072 >>105732095
>>105732061
Klarna already did a 180 on this but other companies keep doubling down
Anonymous No.105732095
>>105732072
probably the worse the numbers, the bigger the cope. I wouldn't be surprised if all those AI-inflated valuations are heading for a cliff.
Anonymous No.105732232
I seems to be working pretty well for them.
Anonymous No.105732549
>Five years of IT experience
>Haven't specialized in anything (oops)
I may as well be straight out of college in this job market, holy fuck.
Not necessarily unrelated to that, what do we think of CCNA in 2025? I haven't done networking since 2019 but I thought it was pretty fun as far as work goes.

>>105720032
>Boson
holy based
Anonymous No.105732600 >>105732624 >>105732991
Huh, I want to change jobs but can't. I am getting zero fucking interview invites.

I have shitton of qualifications and 15y of experience, not even old.

I don't know what the fuck is going on
Anonymous No.105732624 >>105743356
>>105732600
it's been like that for the last 2 years (at least). nothing suggests any changes any time soon.
Anonymous No.105732991
>>105732600
Welcome to the fray. It's getting even worse from there.
Anonymous No.105733161 >>105733222 >>105733324
>>105730775
>>105731227
Generally yes once I go through a dozen or so people, send them back for interviews for my boss he picks and chooses based upon the requirement does an interview and gets sent back for technical. If he fails my boss then its because he is retarded and lied on his resume his actual baseline skills. I do mean basic bitch shit that most people in that role should know.

yes alot of it is spam

>>105731677
Sorry I work for a much larger company and deal with a much larger influx. The numbers have 10x over the years and its gotten worse. Actual qualified candidates are always 1/10 the amount of applications and job experience pays at the end of the day. My company chooses to filter out with big ticket items like certs, degrees, homelabs and other informal training before even getting to job experience.
Anonymous No.105733169 >>105733177 >>105733181 >>105733231 >>105733298 >>105735666
people on xitter are getting hired by DM'ing founders. even the cloudflare CTO said he has hired off of DMs. what's stopping you?
Anonymous No.105733177
>>105733169
I have to shave my asshole and bleach it before doing so.
Anonymous No.105733181
>>105733169
Don't want a twitter account.
Anonymous No.105733222 >>105733241
>>105733161
nice self-own and backpedal, incompetent subhuman.
Anonymous No.105733231
>>105733169
it'a fake
go ahead and try, you'll learn just like everyone else did.
Anonymous No.105733241 >>105733253
>>105733222
Stay brown and flush it down jeet
Anonymous No.105733253 >>105733269
>>105733241
If I were a pajeet you would interview me since that is the only criterion you sais you cared about. Only if I am the same shade of brown as you though of course. Can't have off-caste hires.
Anonymous No.105733269 >>105733694
>>105733253
>Not US
>No US degree
>No relevant job experience
Dropped by me if not the first interview.
Anonymous No.105733298
>>105733169
I'm a junior without a god tier project to show so he's more likely to speak to his contacts in the industry to blacklist me for annoying him than he is to hire me.
Anonymous No.105733324 >>105733357
>>105733161
How much are you told to care about salary? Like if you're offering X-Y and you've got some desperate dude who's low on requirements or barely makes them but is willing to work for less than X do you even consider him?
Anonymous No.105733357 >>105733700
>>105733324
Does not matter for larger companies. Shoot to the moon and see what they give you if you have no range. If you have a range shoot 10-20k above it and the most they can do is talk you down to the max. If you have hot shit skills they might actually pay you above the range but that is not common.
Anonymous No.105733613 >>105733664
What a miserable shithole this is.
Anonymous No.105733664 >>105734336
>>105733613
Hire more juniors and they'll leave here and take their misery to /twg/ where they will then dream of being plumbers.
Anonymous No.105733694
>>105733269
All poos are "us with us degrees and work experience".
White people routinely have non-us degrees and no exp or unlisted exp.
Sumb pajeet. You even said you reject people with too much exp and master's
Anonymous No.105733700 >>105733793
>>105733357
lol
lmao
go be 12 elsewhere
Anonymous No.105733793
>>105733700
>Staying poor by choice
No wonder you faggots don't have a job.
Anonymous No.105734336 >>105734367
>>105733664
Why not combine the two?
I want to switch to a trade. Which one?
Anonymous No.105734367 >>105734442
>>105734336
Why not combine the threads? /twg/fags started bitching that non-workers were in their tech worker thread.
Anonymous No.105734388 >>105734452
At what point do you suicide?
After looking for an X amount of time? After X amount of rejections?
I don't want to go back to stocking shelves.
Anonymous No.105734442
>>105734367
No, fool, combine the wanting to become a plumber and complaining about nojobs obviously
Anonymous No.105734452 >>105734601
>>105734388
Stocking shelves is a better career path with better upward mobility than tech
Anonymous No.105734601 >>105734641
>>105734452
You are the biggest retard ITT
Anonymous No.105734641
>>105734601
You are deluded
Anonymous No.105734971
>>105726116
I've noticed this too. Luckily I transitioned from frontend dev to fullstack a while ago as companies want to squeeze out more and more from their human devs and specialized roles are no longer desired.
Anonymous No.105735545 >>105735601 >>105735648
I was never good in school at math, i was never good at physics, i was ahead of the curve with computers
because i was playing video games. Because i was so inapt at math i was always behind the cool kids..
I always wanted to participate in these math events and later on programming events...
Around middleschool i started developing a big god complex... why? Because we learned basic programming
and i was able to create stuff i found cool and most importantly i was BETTER than all my peers..
Then in highschool i got separated from everyone cause of my math grades, but we kept in touch online.
MY God complex got even worse, because i started self teaching and was still much ahead of everyone,
even kids that were going to the olympiads and solving algorithm problems (looking back, all my algo solutions
were more or less "ugly" and bruteforce but i didnt know any better), and i was also learing about linux.
Then... right about end of highschool when everyone got money and opportunities for universities, i didnt get
anything... i got demoralized and had to work construction jobs, being so tired from working 12 hour days
i stopped programming, i stoped studying, i stoped being ahead... All THE FUCKING RETARDS started being above me
Now half a decade later, some of them work in FAANGS, some of them at banks, some of them at good cushy jobs

I lost, i picked it up 2 years ago and been in tutorial hell ever since, being constantly demoralized

Never taking action, Never to take action, Never to become better

I Failed, I wasnt the God i thought i were, I was the stupid one.

I Failed.
Anonymous No.105735601
>>105735545
Your own fault for believing that education was a meme. Self taught is worthless.
I lucked out because education was all I had to prove my worth. There was no other way.
Anonymous No.105735648
>>105735545
Just get some certs and go sideways into it through devops
Anonymous No.105735666
>>105733169
People don't understand the things I say on twitter
Anonymous No.105735709 >>105735753 >>105735758 >>105735806 >>105744714
honestly if all these product led companies are saying more and more of their work is being done by AI, doesn't that mean anyone could just build their product with AI?
then what's the point of paying thousands of dollars a year for enterprise software when users could just use AI to build it themselves and save on the bill, plus get it even more tailored to their own use cases?
it seems to me like every company is jumping on the train for short term gains and FOMO, with the whole industry is just digging their own grave
Anonymous No.105735753
>>105735709
The end goal is to replace all devs (and white collar jobs) with AI completely. CEOs know though that AI currently is just a productivity-increasing tool and even with 1000 different agents running simulatenously you will still produce shitloads of code that either doesn't run or doesn't solve the task at hand. Here is where developers come in and are supposed to direct AI and only approve solutions that actually work.
Anonymous No.105735758
>>105735709
AI doesn't work
anyone with a shred of "AI" experience knows it's just being versed in tensor libraries and has always been
the application of which is entirely for data and nothing outside of data
AI replacing jobs is a meme so that the PPP business owners who are knee deep in debt (consider how the fed runs the US nowadays using business retards as money laundering to the consoomer goys) can cut their staff to continue paying their interest before they realize that they need their staff to make a profit, since LLMs are utterly useless at doing anything except typesetting
Anonymous No.105735806 >>105735860
>>105735709
It's a meme. AI can't even improve effixiency. This is why all attempts at metrics comparing essentially "using sticks and stones" to "using AI" as if there is nothing in-between.
Companies larp otherwise brcause of fiduciary duties (if they don't claim they're forcing everyone to use AI they can be fired or even sued and go to jail) and due to ceo retardation. It's also the perfect cover to fire 50% of the workforce to paper over losses related to unprofitable AI investments.
Anonymous No.105735860 >>105735904 >>105735933
>>105735806
I like how after firing people to go to ai they then have to hire more people to clean up after the ai
Anonymous No.105735904 >>105735966 >>105736716 >>105737058
>>105735860
The thing is, companies are downsizing their staff until they reach a point where employees all start voting for far left politicians who will put a stop to this practice.
Anonymous No.105735933
>>105735860
just like hiring indian contractors
Anonymous No.105735966
>>105735904
Lol. Lmao
Anonymous No.105736503
Between rent student loan payments and vehicle costs to get to work Im barely making minimum wage
Anonymous No.105736716 >>105737028 >>105737162
>>105735904
don't most techfags already vote left? I never understood it tbqh.
Anonymous No.105737028
>>105736716
most techfags poo in dedicated shitting streets. Hope that clears that up.
Anonymous No.105737048
>>105713472 (OP)

Raise your hand if you are a White boy from /pol/.
Anonymous No.105737058
>>105735904
>far left politicians who will put a stop to this practice.
There is no far left in the the country that dominates the tech industry. No, trannies and nogs are not far left.
Anonymous No.105737162 >>105737419
>>105736716
They vote for more funding of free money and cheap loan aprs and more immigration for cheap labor. So yes they vote democrat.
Anonymous No.105737419 >>105737432 >>105737434
>>105737162
cheap labor, low interest rates and outsourcing is typically a right wing mainstay (though immigrarion is usually left)
Anonymous No.105737422 >>105737725
TS/SCI
Sec+
CISSP

I've got another year roughly before I'm out. Assuming I don't get 100% neetbucks for the rest of my life, what should I get before separating, CCSP or something in AWS?

I don't want to work in a scif or be "in the ecosystem". I want to work in actual air conditioning with working elevators and normal people, even if they're pajeets. Or OE WFH but we can't have everything.
Anonymous No.105737432 >>105737454 >>105737459
>>105737419
So both sides are just serving capitalism?
Anonymous No.105737434 >>105737459
>>105737419
Huh it's weird how they both do the same thing
Anonymous No.105737454
>>105737432
Anon we have a centrally planned economy like china does. But we only have all the bad parts and none of the good ones.
Anonymous No.105737459
>>105737432
>>105737434
Now you get it
Anonymous No.105737725 >>105738002 >>105740192
>TS/SCI
>CISSP
>Three years of cyber security experience
>Lockheed Martin keeps rejecting me from their cyber security engineer positions that support the military unit I used to be in
>even with a referral from a manager I used to work with
man what the fuck. I even had an interview with AWS two weeks ago. I failed it unfortunately, but how the fuck did I get a FAANG interview but somehow the defense contractor is too good for me?

>>105737422
I came here to post about how shitty the job market is even for cleared work (unless you have a poly) and I started reading your post and was like wait, did I already post here? lol
I would recommend AWS (probably SAA to start) certs over CCSP. CCSP isn't very well-known, and typically when I mention it people think I'm talking about CISSP. It does have a good amount of 8140 qualifications, but with DoD work it's only a matter of time before you're back in a SCIF, as you probably know.
Definitely start a degree if you don't have one already.
If you're trying to max out your VA gibs, don't forget to tell them you have erectile dysfunction. It falls under SMC-K rather than the usual percentage rating system, so it's a flat $136 (lol) a month addon even if you're already at 100%.
Anonymous No.105737971 >>105741154
>>105728529
/fit/izen here, the body dysmorphia is real and normies really think this is roid body
Anonymous No.105737996 >>105749029
>have a good resume
>pull the connections
>swoon the HR lady
>impress the tech lead
>pass all stages
>do a 6 stage data analysis on pubmed data in jupyter notebook
>wait for 2 weeks
>"sorry anon, we lost the project to some other company, we are sooo soorry we will call you soon :)"

at least I bought some drugs to cope I guess
Anonymous No.105738002
>>105737725
>>Lockheed Martin keeps rejecting me from their cyber security engineer positions that support the military unit I used to be in
you shouldn't have shitposted about the jews anon, now they know you're high risk
they do have info on every citizen you do know that?
Anonymous No.105738109
>>105724358
>roid freak
lol, lmao even
Anonymous No.105738315 >>105738951 >>105741145
>>105713472 (OP)
I just finished my degree in Software Engineering. Would I be retarded to train for Analyst jobs?
>"Data Analyst" in job board: 800 results
>"Analyst" 2,000 jobs
>"Kotlin" 4 jobs
>".NET" 400 jobs
Anonymous No.105738951 >>105739049 >>105739252
>>105738315
Why did you get a degree then if now after 4 years of training you want to train more, and for something else? You retarded fuck

Way to prove your degree was just a giant larp and a convenient excuse for you to delay your adulthood
Anonymous No.105739049 >>105739060
>>105738951
NTA but I'd imagine it has something to do with no jobs
Anonymous No.105739060 >>105739099 >>105744675
>>105739049
You're talking about what? You're talking about... bitching about that phone screen you shot, some HR Stacy doesn't read your resume, the job market is bad, so forth. Let's talk about something important. They all here?

Put that anime down! Anime's for /twg/ only. You think I'm fucking with you? I am not fucking with you. I'm here from Silicon Valley. I'm here from FAGMAN. And I'm here on a mission of mercy. Your name's Anon? You call yourself a software engineer, you son of a bitch?

You don't have to listen to me, pal, 'cause the good news is... you're unemployed. The bad news is, you've got, all of you've got just 3 months to get a job starting with tonight. Starting with tonight's sit. Oh? Have I got your attention now? Good. 'Cause we're adding a little something to this month's /utwg/ circlejerk. As you all know, first prize is a job at FAGMAN. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a 6 month contract at WITCH. Third prize is put the fries in the bag. Get the picture? You laughing now? You got job postings. Companies paid good money to recruit on Indeed. You can't land an interview in this job market, then you can't land shit! You ARE shit! Hit the bricks, pal, and beat it 'cause you are going OUT!
Anonymous No.105739095
I don't know how to code but I'm in community college, how do I get a remote job lol
Anonymous No.105739099 >>105741139 >>105744675
>>105739060
It has something to do with no jobs? It has something to do with no fucking jobs? I have a job. I've been in this business 15 years...

Wanna know my name? Fuck you! That's my name! You know why, mister? You're posting from a $200 Thinkpad. I'm posting from a $3000 Macbook Pro. THAT'S my name! And your name is you're wanting. You can't play in the man's game, you can't close them... then go home and tell your boyfriend your troubles. Because only one thing counts in this life: Get them to sign on the line which is dotted. You hear me, you fucking faggots? S-T-A-R. S... Situation, T... Task, A... Action, R... Result. Situation task action result. SITUATION TASK ACTION RESULT. Situation: Are you in a shitty situation? Task: What's the task you need to do to get out of your shitty situation? I know there is one, 'cause it's fuck or walk. You close or you hit the bricks. Action: Are you willing and able to take action? And Result. S-T-A-R. Get out there! You've got the job postings. You think they posted them to collect job market research? A company doesn't post a job lest it wants to hire. They're sitting out there waiting to give you their money. Are you gonna take it? Are you man enough to take it? What's the problem, pal?
Anonymous No.105739252 >>105739396 >>105741198
>>105738951
Because anything related to my degree is hyper-competitive
Anonymous No.105739396
>>105739252
Maybe you’d be a competitive candidate too if you weren’t such a crybaby bitch
Anonymous No.105740192
>>105737725
Yeah, If I can get 100% (inb4 lol, lmao even) I'm just gonna FIRE somewhere in the turd world. I don't mind being underemployed if it means living in a LCoL equatorial area with beach. I'll just OE or shill digital products online for money, when I need it.

AWS it is, then. Thanks.
Anonymous No.105741139
>>105739099
Why are boomers unironically this retarded though
Anonymous No.105741145
>>105738315
Those are pajeet-only roles and the obly "training" they need besise being locat3d in hyderabad is excel.
Anonymous No.105741154
>>105737971
It's funny because /fit/ vietually only posts roid freaks and deludes themselves into thinking they're powting natys. Women also think everything they see is nqtty.
So I guess it only leaves normie men to think everything is roids.
Anonymous No.105741198
>>105739252
Everything related to tech is hyper competitive. Every job opening has hundreds of people applying, many of them with substantially more experience than you have, because none of them can find work.
Anonymous No.105741949 >>105742002
>>105721693
>commission
I work at a huge tech store in a mall I get no commission. I do get a small discount on overpriced items :|
Anonymous No.105742002 >>105742343
>>105741949
You're getting totally scammed, but at least it gives you sales experience so you can jump to a real sales job in a year.
Anonymous No.105742343 >>105742369 >>105742793
>>105742002
at least it is tech related. Many a friend of mine work at fastfood, call centers, or... as stockers.
once i get my thesis at a good company i will start making the big bucks
Anonymous No.105742369 >>105742385
>>105742343
you wish. Tech is dead. Sales is unironically more promising.
Anonymous No.105742385 >>105742562
>>105742369
holy cope
Anonymous No.105742503
>>105722524
I don’t know why I have it so good, I’m afraid to question it
>>105722837
>healthcare
>benefits
>work life balance
>travel to France, Spain, Italy anytime you want over the weekend
>unlimited speed roads
nah I wouldn’t know why it works for some people. Just be distant but polite with germans and they will leave you alone as long as you do your job
Anonymous No.105742562 >>105743027
>>105742385
tech sales is where its at
>typical salesmen too fucking stupid to understand what software is
>typical software engineer is too fucking autistic to sell to anybody
>tech sales must both possess the social acumen to move product and the technical knowledge to explain what the fuck it is
a rare combination demands a premium
Anonymous No.105742793 >>105743027
>>105742343
Tech is dead and buried retard, everyone and their mother are applying to every single opening. Wages have dropped across the board. AI is automating a role of programming roles. Offshoring is doubling for the remaining positions. You have to be a retard or masochist to stay in this dying field.
Anonymous No.105743027
>>105742793
>>105742562
I am European studying AI: >>105721606
a MSc in AI is where the good stuff starts
Anonymous No.105743211 >>105744352
>dooming and looking at the job board
>junior programming role I haven't seen before
>16 days old
>for some reason it didn't show up when I searched "software developer" or "software engineer"
How many of these have slipped through the cracks?
Anonymous No.105743342 >>105749652
>>105732005
AI = Affordable Indians
Anonymous No.105743356
>>105732624
the Tech job market is trash
Anonymous No.105743464
i suck at coding
Anonymous No.105743651
there's a whole parallel tech economy for crypto and im assuming they just hire each other and use each other's products because i have never used any blockchain apps. i do see a lot of job postings though and they're mostly remote
Anonymous No.105744352
>>105743211
>apply
>can now see number of applicants
>1400
>I'm not American
It's so fucking over.
Anonymous No.105744600
>>105715159
SHUT UP FURFAGGOT
Anonymous No.105744652
>>105725219
once you have someone handling the more complex hardware side, why not have them also do the software configs?
Anonymous No.105744675
>>105739060
>>105739099
i could see someone actually posting this on linkedin seriously thinking theyre clever
Anonymous No.105744714
>>105735709
>it seems to me like every company is jumping on the train for short term gains and FOMO, with the whole industry is just digging their own grave
this goes on every few years in finance and tech

it's pyramid skeems all the way down
Anonymous No.105745031 >>105745197 >>105747010
>>105724755
Anonymous No.105745157
>>105714433
Anonymous No.105745197
>>105745031
i like to imagine he is not babyrage crying but letting out the anguished wail of a grown-ass man
Anonymous No.105745336 >>105745599
Has anyone here ever had a job or knows someone that got hired in the last year?
Anonymous No.105745599
>>105745336
I still work for the navy and had a signed employment contract a while ago (it was rescinded before I began work thoughbeit)

>me looking at my dwindling savings
Anonymous No.105746932
>sick and tired of applying to every single it job of any kind the moment it shows up
>small pc building company is looking for people
>fuck it, lets give it a try
>after applying i see the total amount of applicants
>3000+
i am just so tired of it all. wonder how had it is to become a heavy equipment operator
Anonymous No.105747010
>>105745031
Anonymous No.105747089
I've got to phone screenings tomorrow one thats pretty important that someone pulled strings for me to get and one that was more just to help with my interview autism. Problem is they got scheduled out of order and I'm doing the important one first. How do I not spill my spaghetti other than just practicing my responses?
Anonymous No.105747145 >>105747291
>Stuck in a toxic work environment
>can't quit since I don't get EI
>fucking suicidal every fucking day
oh my fucking god i want this to fucking end man, let me be one of you guys please i swear to god just fire me already fuckkkk
Anonymous No.105747291 >>105747488
>>105747145
>>can't quit since I don't get EI
military?
Anonymous No.105747488 >>105747635
>>105747291
just anywhere in canada man. god this country sucks.
Anonymous No.105747635 >>105747935
>>105747488
by having a job you pay into EI and you're entitled to collect it when you lose the job for any reason other than quitting yourself. Even if you're fired for massive incompetence, you can still take it as long as it wasn't "voluntary" in any way.
Anonymous No.105747935 >>105747945 >>105751371
>>105747635
well I WANT TO QUIT, having them "fire me" but intentionally sacking my job feels like shit.
Anonymous No.105747945
>>105747935
just beat up your boss, then you go to cushy jail for a year or two, get out and collect EI, but also get put on a jobs program that gives you preferential placement.
Anonymous No.105748536 >>105748639 >>105748661 >>105750484
https://old.reddit.com/r/careerguidance/comments/1ljncrr/what_should_i_do_now_that_my_career_died_before/

22 yo CS major in NYC becomes homeless
Anonymous No.105748639
>>105748536
i ain't reading all that shit but good, probably
Anonymous No.105748661 >>105748705 >>105748714 >>105753881
>>105748536
>they're telling him to build apps
He's homeless lol.
Honestly he might have better luck leaving NYC entirely if he can manage that.
Anonymous No.105748705
>>105748661
i've heard dumber things from /g/ tbqh
Anonymous No.105748714
>>105748661
Hey man, I get the frustration but your career didn't die. It just hasn't started yet. And honestly? Being a blank slate at 22 with a cs degree is actually not the worst position to be in.

The job market is tough right now, no sugarcoating that. But you've got options. Since you don't have the typical constraints (family, mortgage, etc), you can actually be more aggressive with your approach.

Few things to consider tho.

- Your portfolio is probably the issue, not your degree. Most CS grads have similar coursework but employers want to see what you can actually build

- Look into intensive bootcamps or specialized training. At Metana we see people pivot into web3 development and land jobs pretty quickly because there's still high demand and less competition

- And dont just apply online. That's where resumes go to die. Network, go to meetups, contribute to open source projects

The economy thing... yeah it's messy but tech is still one of the better sectors to be in long term. Your CS degree gives you a foundation that most people don't have.

Take a step back, build some real projects, and maybe look into emerging tech areas where the barriers are lower because everyone's still figuring it out. You're 22. You've got time to figure this out :)
Anonymous No.105748861 >>105748914
I'm so sick of showing up to work
I need a remote job so I can move to a place I can actually afford
But I'll never get one cause everyone's better than me
Anonymous No.105748914
>>105748861
There are things that necessitate being physically in the office, like lighting small fires in the break-room for example.
Anonymous No.105749015 >>105749206
i dont mind working in office as long as it's somewhere convenient. most offices have better furniture and tastier snacks than i do
Anonymous No.105749029 >>105750924
>>105737996
did some microdosing of LSD now and then I am going to study and write some code all night, I dunno
Anonymous No.105749081 >>105749310
>fucked up
>boss calls a meeting on monday
>I'm pretty sure I'm getting fired
>my superior tells me they'll just scold me for a bit
Deep inside, I was actually into the idea of getting fired.
Anonymous No.105749206
>>105749015
I hate the jeet coworker I have to be around every day
Humorless asshole
Anonymous No.105749288 >>105749304
Is it possible to even get an entry-level help desk job or sales job without a master's degree, several years of internships and half a dozen certs these days?
Anonymous No.105749304
>>105749288
Yeah I got one. Turnover is super high except for mentally ill lifers. It's just a call center wfh though
Anonymous No.105749310
>>105749081
Punish me daddy
Anonymous No.105749329 >>105749359 >>105749488
become a fucking plumber, you'll get more life satisfaction. What is the point of this thread? What percentage of posters are jeets?
Anonymous No.105749359
>>105749329
>become a plumber
Jeets get replaced with Spics
Getting an apprenticeship is just as hard as getting an entry level job
Anonymous No.105749403 >>105749767 >>105750161 >>105750543 >>105750743
As an autist who did get a tech job. This field really isn't the place you want to be. Reading through this thread, some people recommended networking etc and meetups, you really think a socially retarded person is going to do well at that?

Do not enter this profession unless you have soft skills, which you don't have if you use this website.

People think computer work is for autists but it's not, it's for normies and women, like all office jobs. I see people entering this field because they are pussies, and think doing a trade will put them around macho men that they are too scared to encounter, but the thing is that the creatures you encounter in an office are much worse.

But in truth I think a lot of you are jeets who are doing this just for status or somethng..
Anonymous No.105749488 >>105749515 >>105750968
>>105749329
>learn to code lead to the field becoming oversaturated cancer, surely this won't happen with learn a trade
Anonymous No.105749515 >>105749711 >>105750968
>>105749488
in my country plumbers and carpenters are paid as much as software engineers and they are in high demand.

You're too low iq for software as well. Because even if advising people to enter trades could lead to oversaturation, that would take over a decade, whereas software is already over saturated. Your iq is so low I think plumbing would be too hard for you.
Anonymous No.105749652
>>105743342
kek'd.

Seems automation will become the thing that everyone in tech needs to learn at some point. I've even automated my job search, pre written cover letters and all. I noticed, on indeed for example, over 50% of employers dont even open to view applications, not rejections but not even viewing the fucking application. Thats alot of wasted time. So, best to just automate, pray and spray whilst doing other things
Anonymous No.105749711
>>105749515
Bloody bastard fuck your sister
Anonymous No.105749715 >>105750135
Would you consider it significantly harder to break into the industry if you're from a rural area in the US?
Anonymous No.105749767
>>105749403
>you really think a socially retarded person is going to do well at that?
Most people under age 40 are socially retarded and cunty these days. I don't like spergs but I'll take a sperg over a jeet any day.
Anonymous No.105749972 >>105749982
Getting ready for tomorrow. I still need to get my CS degree for fun.
Anonymous No.105749982 >>105750146
>>105749972
I too need to get ready for tomorrow, but I already have one
Anonymous No.105750135
>>105749715
Yes and no. Fewer jobs but also fewer applicants. It would be easy to get a field technician job for a telco but hard to get a sysadmin or network tech job and basically impossible for a code money job outside of maybe website building at a small msp.
Anonymous No.105750146 >>105750266
>>105749982
Should I purchase one too? It should only be like 10 classes with transfer credits and I don't see why not
Anonymous No.105750161 >>105750204 >>105753120
>>105749403
I like computer.
Anonymous No.105750204
>>105750161
The computer itself isn't a hobby, it's a gateway to consuming slop
Anonymous No.105750266
>>105750146
Fuck it why not.
The key is that as soon as you graduate, probably even before that, apply for jobs full-time.
Idk whats gonna happen in the future but the way things are if you don't get in within 6months to 1 yrs of graduating you may get left behind
Anonymous No.105750297 >>105750323
Is a b2b saas internship worth it for a software dev?
Has anyone here landed a full-time role from one?
Anonymous No.105750323 >>105750358
>>105750297
You should get into stone masonry
Anonymous No.105750358
>>105750323
I'd rather join the porn industry
My friend even got an offer to vc lonely ((women))
Anonymous No.105750484 >>105750525
>>105748536
NYC is brutal as fuck. I would move to a different state, preferably midwest, but he's homeless. Yeah, atp, I'm joining the military for the ZOG machine. Idc.
Anonymous No.105750525
>>105750484
I applied to the fbi but they don't understand the things I say on twitter
Anonymous No.105750543
>>105749403
Sounds like a personal problem.
Anonymous No.105750743 >>105750870
>>105749403
>But in truth I think a lot of you are jeets who are doing this just for status or somethng..
If you are an autist, how did you mask it then? I was thinking about just getting meds/drinking alcohol on certain days kek
Anonymous No.105750870
>>105750743
I don't. I'm an outcast who barely speaks to anyone.
Anonymous No.105750924
>>105749029
>think you're making a todo list app
>wake up from your drug fueled haze and you wrote some pong website, it has 50 users
Anonymous No.105750968 >>105751205
>>105749488
>>105749515
Same.
My country keeps a list of under saturated fields that they update quarterly, for shits and giggles I wrote a program to filter through the last 3 years of pdfs (until the format changed) and count how often each trade is listed and a ton (including plumber, electrician, chef, fabricator, cabler) were in every document.
Anonymous No.105750982
I get paid 38 an hour to clean.
Jesus Christ you guys got it bad.
LOL
LMAO even
Anonymous No.105751177 >>105751205
In my country, everyone is screaming about a massive shortage in the industry I have a degree for but can't get a job in. I have applied for jobs that "just want warm bodies" without even getting a rejection email. If I bothered someone as much as I've bothered companies, they would have gotten a restraining order.
Sure, the shortage could be bullshit, but how do we know I won't just be an unemployed labourer, plumber or healthcare worker? How do we know I'm not just unemployable?
Anonymous No.105751205 >>105751229
>>105750968
>>105751177
I just looked up one of those lists and apparently "software engineering" is an under-saturated field, just fucking lol
Anonymous No.105751214 >>105751320
>see a junior dev role
>advertising $20 USD an hour (converted for you burgers)
>as a casual, 2-3 days a week, 15-22.5 hours per week ($300-$450)
>posted 1 hour ago, it has a "medium application volume"
What the fuck.
Anonymous No.105751229 >>105751240
>>105751205
What country? The only tech related shit on the lists here are related to installing cables.
Anonymous No.105751240 >>105751270
>>105751229
US. The list is around year old but all the techs layoffs and job markets shit happened nearly two years ago at this point so I'm surprised it was on there even then lmfao
Anonymous No.105751270
>>105751240
Yeah that's just some lobbying shit right there. The only questionable things I've seen so far on my list are
>Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Health Practitioner
And it's right at the top because the list's sorted alphabetically which is pretty funny.
>Locksmith
73 jobs in the country, it's clearly not in high demand even if they're all looking for apprentices.
Anonymous No.105751320 >>105751329
>>105751214
People need a job title to move up nd not pay at first
Anonymous No.105751329
>>105751320
That low end one doesn't even cover rent, you are paying.
Anonymous No.105751337
>>105713472 (OP)
im unemployed technician im no work right so i travel i have money
Anonymous No.105751363 >>105751457
>Updated on Feb. 20, 2025
lmfao are you shitting me
Cybersecurity specialists are also on this list. It's all either tech jobs that are blatantly oversaturated or shit I would have to get a different degree for with the exception of shit like electrician work.
Anonymous No.105751371
>>105747935
You can go to a doctor and request he sign you a paper saying you have a burnout and you will get EI
Anonymous No.105751374
So many lazy unemployed tech workers. Surely more H1bs will solve this, right?
Anonymous No.105751446 >>105751695
I want to the people who write these fucking articles
Anonymous No.105751457
>>105751363
That reads as a fucking wired article not a government made list of in-need positions.
OS MASTER !JORDAN./os No.105751463
im unemployable
i want to read this thread
i have bachelor degree in cybersecurity
i work as door greeter at target (called security specialist but i jut greet people)
Anonymous No.105751522
>IT help desk technician
>listed under "high-paying entry level job that requires no experience"
>2 years of work experience and a master's degree required for position
I think I might just go all in on my shitty "side hustle" idea of buying old/broken computers for cheap, installing Linux Mint on them, and reselling them on ebay or etsy as "privacy/security focused devices using a secure OS" or some shit. Not sure if it would make much profit though.
Anonymous No.105751695 >>105751716 >>105753505
>>105751446
Anon, you can't murder an AI. I mean, maybe if you had access to the data center you could wipe the hard drives, but that's it.
Anonymous No.105751716
>>105751695
destroy all datacenters
Anonymous No.105751802 >>105751885 >>105751942 >>105752350
Take the wagie pill, /utwg/
>In tech, you might have to work 60 hour weeks
>Instead, work as a Domino's driver for 60 hours (note that stores usually cap you at 40 hours to avoid OT)
>$20 California minimum wage + maybe $6/hour average in tips + 20 hours overtime per week = around $30.43 per hour
>$87,638 annually doing chill retard job
Anonymous No.105751883
>>105715159
furret ^^
Anonymous No.105751885
>>105751802
>implying people who get delivery actually pay tips
>implying gas cost and car maintenance won't eat into your earnings
And in tech there's significantly less risk of dying in a car accident or getting ganked by nonwhites
Anonymous No.105751935
>>105722012
>It's sucks. You're education and abilities go to waste.
This is why I made sure to not finish my CS degree. Now I have nothing to lose!

>>105722060
>Costco hot dogs now cost 14$ with relish and onions there 18$
>The US dollar ends up being like the Ruble or Rupee where 30,000 of them equals $300
I believe it.
Anonymous No.105751942 >>105753505
>>105751802
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=dominos+driver+shot
Anonymous No.105752350
>>105751802
i sent dominos an app for shits and giggles last week and didn't get a response
Anonymous No.105752361 >>105752376
i havent worked in over a year. how many applications will it take to get hired or should i give up. have put in 100 applications over like 5 days. i have 10 years exp, some at good companies but mostly my resume is a cluster fuck.
Anonymous No.105752376 >>105752498
>>105752361
At least you qualify for senior positions, that right there means you'll get one 10x faster than a mid dev let alone a junior who's fucked right out of the gate. Worst case scenario you can out-qualify a mid dev for their own jobs.
Anonymous No.105752498
>>105752376
we're all fucked lads. every job is fake, whoever is getting hired is just a normalfag with a network.
Anonymous No.105753017
>Working day-to-day with our local dev and DevOps teams, also collaborating with our global teams in India and US
At least they're up front about it.
Anonymous No.105753120
>>105750161
the computer don't like you back
Anonymous No.105753505 >>105754137
>>105751695
final fantasy and shin megami tensei taught me different

>>105751942
it's ok dominos has a big warning on their order page now saying DRIVERS CARRY LESS THAN 20$ IN CHANGE
Anonymous No.105753515
>>105721121
thats literally every country where someone in government doesn't like (You)
Anonymous No.105753881
>>105748661
well if he's posting on reddit clearly he has access to some kind of device. Why can't he use it to build an app and make millions of dollars just like elon musk did?
Anonymous No.105754137 >>105754186
>>105753505
They'll shoot you for the fuckin pizza nowadays.
Anonymous No.105754186
>>105754137
>implying I didn't eat it first
>implying they can even steal the car (dominos has GPS tracking and they would be caught basically instantly and even niggers are teched up enough to be aware of this)
niggas is hungry out here. don't hate the gamers hate the game
Anonymous No.105754629
>>105728869
Thanks for the advice, burgeranon :)