So since the same topic did come up:
>>105717123
>Printer simps truly don't understand that they're printing garbage not meant to last.

I think we need a general and I will be making a wiki to compile all the debunkings of the nonsense printer fags say.

Why 99% of people do not need a 3D printer?
1) FDM shit all of it emits micro plastics like crazy. This is the result of the FDM process that CAN NOT BE FIXED plastic that is injection molded is one solid where the microplastics problem is smaller.

If another SÖY fag who 3D prints says something about his SÖYjak cup holders that he 3D printed ask yourself
>Do I want that shit to emit more microplastics in this part of my home?
>Do I need this crap?

2) Resin 3D printing needs you to work with toxic chemicals in the washing process.

With all these downsides you ask yourself
>Do I need this plastic crap?
>Can I buy it faster and cheaper from a real store?

And 95% of the time the answer is YES. So you are poisoning yourself and your home with microplastics or dangerous chemicals to make a item longer and more expensively then simply buying it from a store.

Lets see
>>105713669
WOW a cable holder...
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=cable+holder&crid=10TXH8P9U7N0H&sprefix=cable+%2Caps%2C378&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
$10 max on amazon.

Did you really need a 3D printer for this crap?

>Muh other uses
Name them. Most 3D printing idiot can not 3D model and need others to make the models for them. It is as """"maker community""" as you searching pictures on the internet and downloading them.

I like to see the uses for these 3D printers you fagots buy at home.

>Much mechanical parts
More expensive then buying replacements and everything 3D printed especially FDM disintegrates if force is used on it

1/2

>>105720701 (OP)
2/2

>OH YEA I DO NOT NEED THE PART TO LAST TO MY GRAND GRAND KIDS
How about the part lasting until next year?

>Herp derp my coat hanger lasted
Not mechanical, cheaper and better in stores, also did you really need to spread microplastics all over your clothing?

And my favorite part:
>>105711267
>Whenever people shit on 3D printers or call them useless it always turns out that they never even owned one and haven't seen one since the early Ender 3 days.

Lets see
>Bro why are you calling NFTs useless if you did never buy a NFT?
>You need to buy NFTs before criticizing them!
See why people hate printer fags?

ok, so how do we make injection molding affordable

>microplastics
don't suck off the extruder and its gears. Clean them now and then with a wet cloth.

CnC -> aluminum plate -> injection mold

>affordable
What it is not?
>Reeee
>You must give me a cheep solution
What is there no cheep solution?

>>105720774
The extruder motor i mean. Everything that comes out the nozzle is already molten and any potential particles within the actual extruder are contained within.

>>105720765
There is UV resin made for that stuff. Not perfect as then you are dealing with UV resin which is an underrated killing machine. The actual injection molding rig is also not very expensive, well DIY ones for not so big parts.

>>105720774
COPE.

All the videos of the 3D printing fanatics and even they get spooked where all the microplastics are all over their house.

>extruder
IF you THINK you realize FDM made products emit microplastics everywhere! This is because FDM fuses small parts of a past together there are small gaps this is why FDM shit is always more fragile then injection molded plastics (who have no gaps, holes etc) and why it breaks up into microplastics over time.

There is no fixing this. FDM shit is literally only useful if you want to make bombs out of them or parts of bombs since you do not care if there are microplastics in this scenario.

>>105720837
>There is no fixing this.
you can coat them. i always found funny people pretend 3d printing stuff are finished products

>>105720830
>is already molten and any potential particles within the actual extruder are contained within.
See this is why people hate you and fags like you. You cope.

>is already
See picture: >>105720837
You literally have no fucken idea how FDM even works printer fag.

This is why people hate you printer fags so hard. Because you behave like this.
People hated NFT fags more however they died a silent death.

>Ha Ha HA hey guys it is safe keep printing you SÖYjak cup holders and SÖYjak key chains, and keep on buying 3D printers even if you do not need them (totally not a shill).
>Why care if you live for another 5 years if you can print more SÖYjak key chains?

>>105720849
>you can coat them
Interesting viewpoint, idea accepted however literally every 3D printer fagot on YT never says this.

>you can coat them
This will interfere with the precision of the part.

>>105720873
>This will interfere with the precision of the part.
>3d printers
>precise

why don't you share your wisdom in >>>/diy/ where there are 3d printing generals regularly?
Ah, right. This is just bait and only /g/ is retarded enough to engage.

First a dog. You know what's next.

>>105720873
>This will interfere with the precision of the part.
you can take that into account. but i dont consider 3d printer parts precision parts honestly
metal inserts for the win
but then i am a manufacturing engineer, that calls "3d printing" additive manufacturing and a 2.5 axis cnc process, so i am used to finish my prieces, even if only bc i find unfinished parts cringe
see this fag for a combination of metal parts, 3d printed parts and more stuff
https://youtu.be/L8t82OQXefM
not that i support every decision, i just would like to see more of this way of thinking

>>105720701 (OP)
Oh no! Not OP and his serious hate boner for 3D printing again.

I've printed a holder for a Kryptonite bicycle lock out of PETG for my friend. She is very happy with it.

Your a faggot!

>>105721211
Did she let you have sex with her after that?

>>105720701 (OP)
TL;DR 80lbs consooming vir/g/in tranny got buck broken by 3D printing /diy/ chad.

>>105721086
Why did they pose it like this?

>>105720701 (OP)
love my Voron
you may reply with seething

>>105720701 (OP)
>>105720727
>>105720837
>>105720865
We get it, you're brown and transexual

>>105720701 (OP)
Useless shit.
/thread

>>105721664
Why did you reply to your own posts?

Anyone looked at the Creality HI CFS combo? I'm considering it as a cheap plug and play upgrade from my old ender 3 printer of Theseus.
I don't have the time to baby a printer or hang around for filament changes and long print times are a drag.
Corexy would be nice but I don't really need it.

>>105721694
bed swingers suck
however literally anything is better then an ender 3 at this point

>>105721394
BASED
>>105720701 (OP)
you're mentally ill

>>105721211
If you are the one who made the model conciser exporting it as .step instead of .stl. Its like vector art vs rasterized images. .stl has shit curves.

>>105720701 (OP)
I'm not opposed to the technology but there's genuinely no problem I can think of that a 3d printer could solve. For small shit I use thermoplastic, for big shit plastic will not suffice at all.

>>105721703
So you think it's worth the extra for the K1 or k2 or whatever even if I don't really need the extra speed?

>>105720774
>lead paint
don't lick walls or eat paint chips
>asbestos
don't crumble and breathe it

based, life really is simple as

op is actually based and redpilled for once
like wtf

>>105721734
it's worth it to get a printer with a kinematic bed and enclosure just to increase consistency and ease of use when printing and also high temp filaments are unlocked at the same time

>>105721764
I will probably never print filaments other than PLA, petg, tpu due to the fume management (kids around) but fair point about the enclosure. Printer is in the garage and I wonder about the dust and diesel particulate building up on the working parts

Want to do some experiment, drop dozen of airtag style trackers into sea so I need some screw ball similar to pic.
What material should I use, I don't care about water tightness of the screw part since I'll use gasket maker there but resistance of material to moisture/salt and it needs to survive impact from waves hitting the rocks.

>3D printing bad
ok. tell me how I'm supposed to make replacement plastic parts otherwise? you expect me to make a mold for each use?

>>105721913
What plastic parts are you replacing.

>>105722198
I had to replace some broken plastic bits for a car door's mechanical linkage.

>muh microplastics
It's in your clothes and your food and countless other areas of your life already.
A 3D printer is the least of your worries.
Relax, buddy.

>>105722198
nta but I've replaced some small parts on nice toys I passed down to my son. I made larger cup holders for my kids' car seats because they weren't big enough for their water bottles. I printed a "lock" for my office French doors because my youngest is a raccoon that pulls my shit out of the drawers. The thing that probably saved me the most money overall was printing some custom standoffs for the plumbing setup in my cabin. I also made a bunch of custom tool mounts for the garage. Overall it's worth it for the price of an ender 3 imo. But it's not worth it if you don't know how to cad/blender because all the shit I actually keep is stuff I designed. The only exception I guess is the flexi/pokemon stuff I print because my kids really like those.

>>105720701 (OP)
lmao how triggered can you be
>3d printing misinformation general

>>105720701 (OP)
People who still spam the microplastics meme are braindead idots and examples of people who haven't kept up with 3d printing in over a decade.
As long as you don't have mutiple printers right next to you running 24/7 and sniffing the fumes you will be fine.
Most people just put them in their basement or any random room with an open window.
You idiots act like you stand near a 3d printer for a few seconds and you die. This is some bluetooth/wifi wave cancer nonsense.

>>105721607
>tfw finally finally running the plates for my Pandora's Box build
Feels gud brah

>>105721086
>>105721568
YJK

>>105721862
water will diffuse through the printed material

>>105721862
PETG, it's literally just recycled plastic bottles

>>105713812
>reddit spacing
>CAPS LOCK
Bambu is also chink you idiot. It's not about specs, even in terms of built quality, fans, bigger and quieter motors etc. the Centauri is better. and print quality is basicly the same or even better in terms of overhangs, you idiots need to stop acting like Bambu are the only printers that work.
I might as well call you bambu shill, but that would probably trigger you. If you are going to shill Bambu at least shill the A1 or A1 mini. They are better than the P1P/P1S unless you 100% need a corexy for some reason.
They are way quieter, cheaper, have built in flow calibration.
At this point you are better off waiting for the next corexy from Bambu which will use the A1 motors and print head. I have no idea how people can stand the jet engine from the P1S/P1P.

3D printing has a real usecase and it is prototyping. You can quite easily model a 3D object then encase it in sand/clay or whatever you use, and then prepare your favorite alloy to turn the plastic into metal.
Of course, there even are companies that will 3D print you things out of metal.

>>105721720
I used to work at an escape room.
My 3d printer was keeping that thing alive with daily prints.

>>105720701 (OP)
I use it for my work and uni. I have never printed anything I've downloaded and I agree you are deranged if you view a 3D printer as a local and decentralized means of manufature.
But:
If anything approaches slightly complex geometry and I can not continue my chosen roure of development without the part I choose to 3dp it, at least to test things.
Consider picrel. If I was to make it with the means available to me I'd set up a generating mechanism on a shaper. Cut and turn the blank, set it up and cut the part. Setup alone would be alot of effort and time.
Alternatively I could order it from a CNC shop that is better equipped than me. In my country at least that's not a fast process from order to delivery. And expensive.
With 3DP I whip it up in CAD and my shitty old 2nd hand printer goes brrrrt and turns a meter of the cheapest filament on ebay into something I can at least evaluate in a few hours. Meanwhile I can do some housekeeping on the project.
I must say I am critical of and don't want to be associated with the stereotypical 3d printer guy, constantly tinkering with their printer, printing as a means to its own end, printing 'improvements' for their printer, acquiring a tool only to then manufacture a purpose for it, believing they can download and 3DP quality consumer grade products. Thats retardation and misses the point:/High level of customization and rapid prototyping.

>>105720701 (OP)
>$10 max on amazon
>$0.35 of filament
If your IQ is above room temperature, then you're capable of designing things you need and printing them for a fraction of the price of buying. It might take a while to pay off, but it will happen eventually and in the meantime you can have exactly the parts you need instead of something that's probably good enough to make work.

>>105720765
buster beagle has a kit that's like 180 bucks

>>105721708

>>105727096
>believe this infographic I found on a khmer stilt house carpentry forum bro you've been lied to your entire life by a Jewish cabal they Jews want to take your low resolution meshes brooo

>>105720837
>doesn't use brick layers
AHAHAHAHAHA
Faggot.

bump for interest

>>105721394
>>105721568
>>105721607
Look the retarded 3D Printing shills showed up.

>>105721607
>Yes sir very good 3D printer from Voron pleas buy this 3D printer.

>>105721720
BASED
>>105726433
>My 3d printer was keeping that thing alive with daily prints.
Yea sure. Tell us more.

>I used to work at an escape room.
However the real joke is that all these peopel never escaped the real printed microplastics escape room and shortened their life spans by inhaling your retarded printed plastic shit in a closed room.

Great JOB! Explain why 3D printers and their filaments should not be banned everywhere like smoking is?

>>105721913
>ok. tell me how I'm supposed to make replacement plastic parts otherwise?
It is always these magical never specified plastic parts.

>>105722198
A anon asks a question

>>105722218
>HERP DERP it is plastic part of car
1) This is a made up lie
2) Car companies are OBLIGATED(Europe) to provide replacement parts who are easy to find.
>plastic bits for a car door's mechanical linkage.
>mechanical linkage.
!!!! CLOWN EMOJI CLOWN EMOJI CLOWN EMOJI!!!!
3) How long until it broke? You realize that FDM prints are ALWAYS inferior to injection molded parts and can not be used in anything mechanical? Right?

4)
I will pretend like this is not obviously a made up lie by a retard who needed to have a excuse to have a 3D printer and never actualy worked on a car in a profesional capacity.
>for a car door's mechanical linkage.
OK MR. Magic unspecified plastic part.
How about you PROVIDE the link to the STL file that you used?
I mean surely you can do that?

Or give the magic website that has all thee car parts ready to print? I mean surely this is great information to know for your 3D printing cultists? No?

It is always this
1)
> Unspecified plastic part
Print cultist gets asked what that is
2)
>Unspecified car part from a magic website that he will never name
You are here print cultist!

>>105722323
>small parts on nice toys I passed down to my son
YIKES.
>y kids' car seats
YIKES
Imagine poisoning your children with microplastics from an early age.

I hope they curse your name when they grow up.
PS: This hypothetical scenario assumes that the 3D printing NEET who posted it does in fact have children or will ever reproduce.

>>105722412
The absolute cope.

>>105725356
>>reddit spacing
I accept your unconditional surrender.

>>105720701 (OP)
>microplastics
>bad
LOL
There is no evidence that microplastics cause any harm. They're sure being found everywhere, but actual harm has not been found.

>>105726322
>prototyping
You have no idea WTF this word even means.

>then encase it in sand/clay
1) This is not prototyping retard
2)
>Ah yes lets reproduce the defects and retardation of the limited and flawed FDM printing process!
>GENIUS!
See why you are retarded?

>and then prepare your favorite alloy to turn the plastic into metal.
??? Why? What parts do you need you dumb fuck?
Also
>Ah yes lets work with the limitations of sand casting negating the benefits of 3D printing! The worst of all possible worlds!
>The limitations of sand casting and the defects generated by 3D printing! TOGETHER!
>What a time to be alive!
You retards are unreal!

And the finally this:
>Of course, there even are companies that will 3D print you things
Why 3D print you retarded fuck? All 3D printed metals are made using sintering and this like FDM created a metal that will forever lose parts of itself.
>Yes forget micro plastics!
>Now we are poisoning ourselves with micro metals now!
What the fuck!

>Of course, there even are companies that will 3D print you things
Why not CnC you retard? Why at all use 3D printing? CnC exists and produces incredible results however costs a lot.
If you retards where not fucked in the head you obsess over CnC at home. That is SUBTRACTIVE manufacturing! While 3D printing is ADDITIVE manufacturing.

>>105727096
that is the program fault... anon is right step is the correct exchange format for cad

>>105731599
good morning saar!

>>105726523
>I agree you are deranged if you view a 3D printer as a local and decentralized means of manufature.
Thanks and this is the reason why peopel HATE 3D printing fags.
The hype in the early days was unreal and the retardation was imediet menatl institutions of level of delusional.

In uppercase because I can not do H1 and bold red while flashing:
>A 3D PRINTER CAN 3D PRINT ITSELF WE ARE SEEING THE REAL LIFE REPLICATOR!
real statement made by real people!

>IT IS DECENTRALIZED MANUFACTURING!
>THE NEXT INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION!
real statement made by real people!

What you get in fact is a retarded plastic toy farting machine where the toys are in fact emitting microplastics.

With this out of the way:
>Consider picrel
Is the FDM? I can see the FDM imperfections in this!
>cheapest filament
So it is FDM!

How the fuck can this shit work and how many minutes before this shit disintegrated itself?
I did see 3D printing evangelists try functional gears and they always disintegrate themselves because 3D printed plastics are shit!

>If I was to make it with the means available to me I'd set up a generating mechanism on a shaper
Yes and?
>Alternatively I could order it from a CNC shop that is better equipped than me.
This be the logical way.

> goes brrrrt and
ZOOMER MEME. Opinion discarded.

>>105726598
>>$0.35 of filament
Yea bullshit

The cheapest filament is ~$10
>Oh no my filament was exposed to the air for to long....
>Looks like I need to buy another filament!
LOL.

Also comedy gold:

>$0.35 of filament
>save $9.65
>Poisoning yourself and everyone with microplastics in your home PRICELESS!

>>105726598
>you can have exactly the parts you need
Imagine posting this in a world of standardized sizes for equipment and tools and everything.

This is not the middle ages old timer!

>instead of something that's probably good enough to make work.
Imagine posting this in a world of standardized sizes for equipment and tools and everything.

You realize even shit like cup holders is of a standard size? WORLD WIDE!

>>105731575
>>microplastics
>>bad
>LOL
>There is no evidence that microplastics cause any harm. They're sure being found everywhere, but actual harm has not been found.
Daily reminder print cultists will literally kill themselves with toxins and microplastics to print plastic crap. Because they are to retarded to search a store.

>>105731619
go fuck youself, anon is right, a mesh is not the way to export a cad, is niggerlicious

>>105731705
Not that anon
>MUH CAD
Why? CAD is retarded. I have seen CAD fags get their dicks hard while telling CAD hacks that are basic transformations trivial to do in blender.

I can add whatever I want and combine whatever I want also the entire
>2D picture to be extruded in 3D
Is peak retarded, human brains are not made to function in 2D! Manipulating 3D objects directly (not blender VS CAD only the retarded and outdated way CAD works) is a far superior option!

>Muh vector Vs raster
For most 3D prints not a problem since the imperfections of the printing process negate any benefits you get from vectors. This is not a CnC machine sir!

>>105731705
I am that anon and you are a esl samefag, why would anyone listen to your opinion?

>>105731741
>vector vs raster
there is no raster in 3d modeling we are talking about vectors you fucking retards kys yourselves

>>105731773
>there is no raster
>You did not say vector VS polygon so my autism was triggered.

>you fucking retards kys yourselves
You have crippling autism.

>>105731575
Same thing was said about mercury, lead and asbestos

>>105731741
>I have seen CAD fags get their dicks hard while telling CAD hacks that are basic transformations trivial to do in blender.
cad and blender and two very different things
i've done cad for work for over 10 years. i haven't touched blender, it's a whole different field. blender is what i call 'organic modelling', that is, from what i've seen, you shape objects as if from clay to the approximate shape you want, this would naturally involve very different tools to cad, which is more procedural. with cad, you rarely touch the shape directly, rather it's the result of multiple steps, each step being recorded separately and can be edited at a later point and may be driven by mathematical functions or via external parameters
not being a blenderfag, i really couldn't point out specific differences, and maybe there's move overlap than i know, but from what i've seen it's very different. just because both /can/ export triangle models doesn't mean the process is in any way similar. i've done a few 3d prints from my cad software, and i would consider such exported models 'baked', like i would never import them again. they've lost a huge amount of information, leaving only the outer surface

>>105731785
explain to us the difference between vector and poly, and how exactly that relates to anything being discussed even remotely? throwing in unrelated terms like raster when they are not applicable to 3d doesn't make you sound intelligent.

>>105731843
not him, but 3d models come in different varieties. the most common is the kind made up of many triangles. models made up of a list of triangles positioned in 3d-space and nothing more.
then there's something like what cad uses, called b-rep, or boundary representation, where volumes are created by mathematically describing various basic shapes to define their boundaries
a basic example may be a cylinder. you could describe a cylinder using a height and radius, and a 3d-representation can be created on demand at any resolution. this is what b-rep does. a triangulated model on the other takes that and turns the surface of the cylinder into a fixed set of triangles. so it is analogous to raster vs. vector. only in 3d

>>105731843
nta but raster uses pixels, the 3d equivalent and what stl uses is triangles defined by 3 points
and step is just the 3d equivalent of svg, equations that defines the shapes, just in 3d

>>105731868
you are poorly describing parametric design and no, that is not what raster is at all. they are both vector and simply map points in space. btw, blender can do that also but it will never be like grasshopper.
>>105731876
the distance between points can be changed without data loss so it is not like raster at all actually. STL is a vector format you illiterate fucks

>>105731887
neither of us are claiming they're identical
of course triangle models can be rendered at any resolution much like an svg can, but in 3D you can't use the same metric.
for example, consider a circle. a triangle-based model cannot record a circle with indefinite resolution. if you zoom in enough you will see flat edges. with b-rep, a circle is a circle. which is /analogous/, not /identical/ to raster vs. vector. where you can zoom into a raster of a circle, but at some point you will run into a jagged edge as it is only a fixed set of points approximately following the edge of a circle, while a vector format can describe a circle itself directly

>>105731887
stl uses 3 points and a vector to define the triangles in the file, so what? that doesnt make it a vector file, its still a mesh of triangles that you need a gorillon more to get precision in a complex shape, same exact shit you have in raster, while step should define it mathematically like in svg

>>105731948
now you are shifting the goalposts to talk about "curves" or "splines". fuck off you larping retard
>>105731957
it is simply mapping vectors in space, not the magic head canon for how you think it works. it is vector data which your slicer interpolates. nothing like a raster grid at all. fuck off retard.

>>105731974
i guess all raster formats are vector now because scaling them up just means bigger squares :)

>>105731974
nigga, i used stl way before the 3d printing community even existed.
stl is not a fucking vector format, is a triangle mesh format, a shitty one at that and you are being retarded
the other anon has explained it perfectly, not a single goalpost moved, you dunning kruger larper
>>105731995
you have been to nice man

>>105731995
I know you might think this is an own but it shows how stupid you are. open a jpg or any raster, decrease the size (save) and then increase the size. notice any data loss? do this with a 3d mesh, you will not have any problem because it is just a bunch of vector data and you are stupid.
>>105732018
stop samefagging.
>stl is not a vector format
>i-i-it just uses vectors - just because ok!

>>105732041
>I know you might think this is an own but it shows how stupid you are. open a jpg or any raster, decrease the size (save) and then increase the size. notice any data loss? do this with a 3d mesh, you will not have any problem because it is just a bunch of vector data and you are stupid.
yea, this confirms what i imagined. you're still thinking of it in literal terms. compared to 2D both formats are 'vector', but we're talking about 3D. an stl or other triangle-based format is like making a raster in that you're taking a higher level representation and quantising it to a /fixed/ set of triangles. a b-rep format on the other hand can describe the original curves that an stl cannot, /that/ is what we're trying to convey to you.
to reiterate, in 2D you might take a circle and turn it into a set of points/squares that roughly follow the original shape, but zoomed in you can only see the points/squares. in 3D you might take a circle and turn it into a set of triangles which roughly follow the original shape, but when zoomed in you can only see the edges of the triangles. do you understand?

>>105732041
holy fucking retardation, nigga i would dumb it down to you what you are comparing is changing the zoom view of a mesh, to saving a changing the number of elements on an image.
the real equivalence would be changing the numbers of elements of a mesh, which is done often to save space as they get big fast, the same way as you are changing the amount of pixels

>>105732097
>>105732103
anyone can choose to read what I wrote or remain stupid by listening to you two

>>105732126
try learning 3D CAD sometime and maybe eventually you'll get it

>>105732142
try learning english before you post on the board pajeet

3d printer made me learn blender. Cope harder, i create my own toys now.

>>105732153
you'll think back to these posts in embarrassment at some point. i don't actually intend to make fun of you. either you're too fixated on the idea that stl's can be rendered into 2D at any resolution, which makes them vector, which is beside our point, or you're unfamiliar with other ways to represent 3D, like b-rep, which is also likely if you've never touched cad software.

>>105732163

>>105732126
stl is not a vector format, anon, is explicitly not
wanna still think like that? do it, be a complete retard, but please keep yourself away from any engineering field, not that you would pass any related course anyway

I use them to make costume props

>>105731840
this, good luck doing mechanical modeling with blender

>>105720701 (OP)
I know this is bait, but i have a 3d printer and it is a cool hobby. I like tuning the machine and configuring it. Also I have printed several parts to repair shit around the house, I also have printed parts to build a large CNC router.
The microplastics argument is solid, but i believe that as long as you print PLA in a very well ventilated environment and with a mask on you are not going to risk much. I belive MP and NP exposure from drinking from an old PET bottle or having polyester clothes around the house is far greater. Also if you live in a city you breathe tire rubber dust all the time.
Maybe it's just not for you I guess.

>>105732281
to be clear, i don't in any way look down on blenderfags, it's different but not worse/under me. i can't do what they do.
from a layman's perspective, i'm sure it's all just '3d', and before i got into cad i didn't know there' was such a big difference either.
in terms of 3d printing, the difference doesn't matter, a 3d printer is like a regular '2d' printer in that it doesn't care how to create the 'pixels', only that you have some to print. what tools/methods you use to make said 'pixels' depends on your skills and goals

OP, you would be better spending your time actually learning about the things you're criticising and then you would look less like a ignorant retard having a tantrum.

It's apparent you don't really understand 3D printing beyond some youtube videos, you don't understand manufacturing in general, and you obviously don't understand what microplastics are either.

Why do you keep talking about microplastics like it's some kind of unassailable argument against 3D printing when you don't know what you're talking about? Your autistic dislike for 3D printing comes from somewhere else.

>>105731637
Go fuck yourself spastic.
I've explained what I need such parts for and that this specifically entails they do not need to 'work' at all or for long. Or if you want to look at it from another perspective: Use available tools according to thwir limitations where applicable. As such I make my design process consider the availavility of this tool.
You have also demonstrated great ineptness. You're citing disintegrating geartrains. Such disintegration will always be the result of exposure or excessive force. It seems it has not occured to you that not all geartrains are meant to transmit useful force. Timing applications for example do exist.
I thibk you would be better of to think of '3D printing' as several only loosely related disciplines.
A purely scientifical one as Bowyer envisioned. Bowyer IS predominantly concerned with the feasibility of replicants. A most obvious key technology for issues such as space exploration. On a sidenote: A scientist who ignores his preconception, as he should, will view the question of feasibility in manufacturing as a simple set of equations. For example an equation describing economic feasibility would simply assume all else to be equal and then equate the sum of the cost of tooling and N times the unit cost on both sides which actually leaves several solutions for the injection molding question. Since N will never be infinite if the printing unit cost approaches injection moldinv and the printing tooling is sufficiently cheap: Voila. That's the scientific perspective.
Then there is the consoomer goods market perspective: Do you have a general problem with toys? I don't. I am only concerned if people playing with toys try to rationalize their behaviour as something that it is not. But otherwiese I have no problem with people making toys, people buying toys and playing with toys. Just call it what it is.
A third perspective: As I've said there is a valid use case. Complex geometry, highly individualized parts.

>>105731527
>never specified
OP is really turning out to only have ome valid point but otherwise be a complete borderline mongoloid.
Fridge freezer compartement handle. No replacements vailable. Took 5 minutes to whip up in CAD from memory, fit like a glove.

>>105732678
i never got why OP is crying about microplastics.
He is pretending like FFF printers are SLS death machines that spew death dust at you for looking at them. Microscopic fragments of filament are made when it rubs against something hard. The only part that abrates in this way are the extruder motor gears. The rest is as slippery and smooth as possible to ease the feeding of filament. I have my printer in an enclosure and regularly clean it, the only place where i can find plastic is on the gears, and even then its an incredibly tiny amount. Everything else might have a small layer of dust but its still freer of particles than outside of the enclosure.
This lack of understanding would mean OP is retarded but him putting words in peoples mouths just means he is trolling.

picrel, OP is confusing FFF with SLS on purpose. FFF uses long extrusions of material that is visible to the naked eye while "fusing small parts together" is something SLS does with dust too small to distinguish with the naked eye, quite literately micro plastic.


>>105732163
Is there a reason you didn't use variable layers?
And please be careful because UV resin can actually dangerous if handled incorrectly. Its effects get worse and worse the more contact you have. It sensitizes your skin until a drop of it will cause your whole arm to rash and require a trip to the ER.

>>105732946
>Is there a reason you didn't use variable layers?
oh wait that is uv resin? i didnt look the background
>>105732163
anon you need to finetune the antialiasing and the layer height, you are really close to superior results

>>105733156
>i didnt look the background
background is irrelevant. UV prints have such a nice surface that its immediately apparent that is was not FFF printed. It also has a also non grainy matte surface which is another indicator of resin printing. Yes there are shiny resins too but most people use the matte ones and even with the shiny resins its easy to distinguish between FFF and Resin. It just "looks right". If it looks perfect its resin.

>>105733200
Wanted to add that if you can make your FFF printer make such nice prints please prove me wrong and show me how :D

>>105733200
i should have said that i didnt take attention in general, i slept like shit this week

>>105720701 (OP)
>t. wife's boyfriend didn't let him get a 3d printer

>>105726854
nah that's like $1000 minimum

>>105731840
I know blender and very little of CAD.
Blender is not really shaping like clay it is this 3D fake shaping of polygons that can mess itself up AKA generate non manifold geometry AKA not water tights models.

Basically polygons are literally flat 2D triangles placed in 3D space.

If you want real clay try voxel based VR sculpting.

>procedural
Blender can do procedural.

Only it is not a flat 2D plane that extrudes into 3D you can simply take 3D objects and let them interact using boolean operations like this WebM shows.

>>105732163
>i create my own toys now.
Like the man child you are.

>3d printer made me learn blender.
LOL I doubt there are even 0.0001% of print fags who ever learned anything they literally think learning how to make their retarded printers print and temperatures for best prints is a real skill.

>>105732303
>cool hobby
>hobby
>hobby

Do Print fags even understand what these words even mean? In like do you understand them or do you parrot whatever shit print channels say?

Let me translate this for you
Hobby = Wast of time that has no practical benefits.

>>105732678
>Your autistic dislike for 3D printing comes from somewhere else.
It comes from printer fags being absolute turbo cancer for over 7 years.

Remember when:
In uppercase because I can not do H1 and bold red while flashing:
>A 3D PRINTER CAN 3D PRINT ITSELF WE ARE SEEING THE REAL LIFE REPLICATOR!
real statement made by real people!

Remember when:
>IT IS DECENTRALIZED MANUFACTURING!
>THE NEXT INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION!
real statement made by real people!

Now that we cleared this up.
>some youtube videos
YES.

What is your counter argument?
>Nooo you are not allowed to see how other 3D print! Get a printer and sit in a cave!
Like for real?

I did look into videos especially pro-printing ones on subjects I needed answer they all confirm his however will damage literally spin doctor these facts
FACT: 3D printed FDM plastic are INFERIOR to injection molded ones and break, this is a FACT that can not be debated because the FDM proces leaves holes inside the part

FACT: FDM and resin can NEVER generate functional gears or parts all of them disintegrate within minutes of use.
If you have a solution please show it since all the pro-printing channels tried this and failed.

>>105732895
>Go fuck yourself spastic.
Transitional:
>I am a retard and I literally lost the argument.
Classic print retard.


>I've explained what I need such parts
ESL statement can not understand.

For what do you use that? Like give examples and tell me how long before it did break. It is retarded FDM plastic and literally can NEVER make a functional gear!!!!!!

>Such disintegration will always be the result of exposure or excessive force
What retardation. You realize that because the surface of these geares in UNEVEN they will always disintegrate and FDM plastic is the weakest form of plastic you can get.

>Le timing le force
BLA BLA BLA
All pro-printing channels tried to make functional gears all of them disintegrate themselves in minutes of use. Go suicide bomb other pro-printing content creators if you disagree.

>A purely scientifical one as Bowyer envisioned
Did you get brain damage from sniffing your own parts?

>Bowyer
I know exactly how FDM works. Do you??? Literally the only thing FDM is good for is making toxic toys or toxic casings for electronics. This is all.


> most obvious key technology for issues such as space exploration.
And this is when everyone laughs and starts throwing rocks at you.
>Muh space!
>FDM to space!
LOL Gota make these toxic toys to somehow colonize space or something!

>For example an equation describing economic f
Did chatGPT write this?

>Since N will never be
FDM can never make functional parts the gear will disintegrate itself within minutes of use. Only toxic toys and toxic casings. Nothing more.

>That's the scientific perspective
OH MY REDDIT SCIENCE!

>Do you have a general problem with toys?
I am over 18 you manchild!

>. Just call it what it is
OK manchild however FDM printed toys are always TOXIC. Bonus points if you did not know about the lead that is in your FDM prints!

Proof:
https://youtu.be/lFtMIo00tfY
Concerning food however you have lead on your FDM printed plastics!

Gota get more lead on your skin!

>>105732926
Unreal!
Unreal!

Some print retard talks about a magic car part that is mechanical.....
Subject abandoned never talked about never named!

Another random print retard shows up.
>Muh fridge
Is a fridge a car part you dumb fuck?
No?
See why people hate print fags like you for your behavior?

>Took 5 minutes to whip up in CAD from memory, fit like a glove.
Cool fan fiction did you also get all the tolerances right from memory?

>freezer compartement handle.
Enjoy your microplastics and lead! Now in your food!
https://youtu.be/lFtMIo00tfY

>>105732303
>Also if you live in a city you breathe tire rubber dust all the time.
>Maybe it's just not for you I guess.
Imagine being so cartoonishly retarded your argument is a self parody of your own position!

3dprintard søyjaks BTFO

>>105735060
As I have noted before:
While (You), OP, had one (1) good idea, and that is the general sentiment of this thread (You) are still utterly deranged. You do not seem. to underatand how arguments work, you seem not to have a concept of nuance and you seem. unable to realise misappropiation when it is happening.

>>105736132
>You do not seem. to underatand how arguments work
Projection.

>Muh car parts
What car parts
>AAAAAA Fuck you I fixed a part of my fridge checkmate ULTRA atheists!
You switched the subject and ignore my quesiton
>AAAA you do not understand how arguments work

Priceless. Another victory in a debate. You zoomers/chatGPT are truly walking caricatures of yourself.

>>105720701 (OP)
OP knows 4chan is for contrarian retards and autists that get personally offended when someone attacks their activities or hobbies, that's why he started an anti-3D printers instead of pro-3D printers

>>105735060
>>105731527
Why are you so offended that someone might print a clip for a door latch? I've printed the exact same kind of shit. Yeah, it's probably not as good as the original injection molded part that lasted 30 years, but in 10 years when this one breaks I can just print a new one.
>GIVE ME YOUR IP FOR FREE!
No. If you want to buy a tensioner for the tailgate latch of a ZJ Grand Cherokee drop your email, we can work something out. I assume from your posts though that you'd rather buy the entire latch from Mopar if you happened to have one that broke.

>>105736865
>>GIVE ME YOUR IP FOR FREE!
>>105736865
>>GIVE ME YOUR IP FOR FREE!
WTF?

You mean that you modeled it yourself?
And now you are a cunt and will not give this model free to use for everyone?

BEHOLD THE ENDLESS GENEROSITY OF THE 3D PRINTING COMMUNITY!

>>105736865
Have fun POISONING yourself with your FDM shit clips, handles and latches!

>>105737038
>I'm a retard and I can't even figure out how to use software literally made for children and that's why I hate people who are more capable than me.
Yes, we know.

>>105737044
PLA is not even close to the most dangerous substance in my shop.

>>105737078
But dude the MICROPLASTICS! FDM shit will LITERALLY shed MICROPLASTICS because it's full of GAPS, unlike superior injection molding technology! A brand new injection molded clip, latch or handle is only like 10 bucks straight from the manufacturer!

>>105737078
>Thingiverse is heresy!
LOL
>I am a print fag
LOL

>YES
>YES

>PUMP THESE MICROPLASTICS INTO ME~

>>105737388
I never said anything of the sort. If I need a thing I'll check thingiverse/printables to see if it's there already, and if it's not then I'll make it myself. Others don't have an obligation to put their work there any more than I do.

And I'm not a printfag, or a ``maker'' or any other bullshit like that. I'm a machinist. I manufacture components out of plastics when it's expedient to do so.

>>105721862
If you don't care about breaking the bank I recommend PVDF. It is quite literally a forever chemical pollutant and it will NEVER degrade in the ocean.

Alternatively I recommend Prusa's new TPU that they sell. It is a different type of TPU than you see from your chinesium sellers and it'll last forever in the ocean too.

>>105738073
PVDF is actually pretty affordable in Europe. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a source other than 3DXTech in the Americas and they charge out the ass for everything.

>>105737530
My only response.

>>105738073
>>105724434
3d prints are porous and hollow irregardless of the material, they easily get water logged without a post processing step.

>>105738252
Nile Polymers is another US manufacturer of PVDF. Their prices are about the same as 3dxhtech's though.

https://www.nilepolymers.com/products/fluorinar-c-pvdf-filament?variant=50328894570790

>>105738520
It is not difficult to make FDM prints water-tight. Just overextrude the fuck out of your material, use scarf seams, and ironing.
If that doesn't work then either vapor polish it or coat it in epoxy.

I see people has engaged you with honesty and legitimately and you have not responded in kind
now is my time to try
I need a riser piece of x height for a pcie riser to fit with case
I pull out my caliper
I use the solvespace
I 3d print it 100% infill
If it fits: good, problem is now solved, I can now do things and live decently happy
Very specific piece only I need of specific dimensions
I need only use the resources needed for making that one piece + prototypes
I will agree on one thing:
Not everyone needs one, and if every library had at least one 3d printer of decent speed in an isolated setup I would have used that one

>>105720701 (OP)
>micro plastics
who fucking cares? Painting a house probably creates millions of times more.
>Muh other uses
>name them
Custom enclosures and robot parts, oh I'm sorry, we're you going to tool up an injection mold and ship me the part I need in under 12 hours? No? I guess I'll be printing it then.

the alternative is sculpting with your hands among other things. knock yourself out.

>>105731527
>It is always these magical never specified plastic parts.
Yes? That's literally the point, you need one off runs of at most half a dozen weird things that don't make sense to mass manufacture.

No one is mass producing things on a 3d printer, it costs 10x as much as injection molding.

>>105738638
Just get it CNC machined and have something that's actually strong unlike FDM shit that POISONS you with MICROPLASTICS?

Also would you prefer I use my mill? That literally shreds things to create the part and fills the shop with dust.

>>105738659
>omg could you imagine breathing in PLA dust? So toxic!!!!! You should use something that creates fine metal dust instead!!!!!!

You know your body naturally creates lactic acid just from moving around right?

>>105738677
But in your body it's not PLASTIC!

>>105738553
That's because they're both name brand Kynar™ resin. No one sells generic chink PVDF in the US.

How does one even choose 3D printers as the thing to sperg out on??

>>105738719
Too much constant exposure to MICROPLASTIC-POISONES 3d-printard SØYJAKS

>>105738719
>print fags spam their retarded propaganda for years
>Print fags get confused why everyone hates them.

>>105738677
>You should use something that creates fine metal dust instead!!!!!!
What?

>>105738667
What 3 world CnC are you using?

>>105738808
What do you think happens when you machine a part instead of printing it?

>>105738520
Regardless how often you try to explain this to these retards. Print fags can not understand how 3D printing even works.

op my master's is 3d printing lol

>>105737595
>Others don't have an obligation to put their work there
>NOOOOO not the retared part I modeled!
>Muh IP
>However I gladly steal from thingiverse without giving back!

>>105738573
He's talking about hygroscopy. There's no sense in arguing with someone who has no idea what he's talking about.

>>105738844
They can do whatever they want with their property, including giving it away for free. I can do whatever I want with my property, including not giving it to you. I'm glad it makes you seethe so much.

>>105738860
>My retarded clip is MY PROPERTY!
>MUH PROPERTY!

> I'm glad it makes you seethe so much.
More laugh what a retarded clown you are over trivial shit like this.

>>105738890
Maybe if you had any skills of your own you wouldn't feel so entitled to everyone else's.

>>105738846
All FDM shit has gaps and is hollow on the inside, it's inherent to the process
Injection molding does not have this problem

>>105738823
He's probably never done any of the stuff he's suggested. He thinks his brain is full of microplastic but it's really full of Twitter ad slop.

>>105720701 (OP)
Keyed OP dropping TRVKES on the microplastic-poisoned "maker movement" printroons

>>105738904
>feel so entitled to everyone else's.
Says the no skill retard who relies on others posting on thingiverse!

See the contradiction here?

>Muh work muh property
you are a joke.

>MUH IP
You realize retard that
A) That is a technical part therefore falling under patents not copyright.
B) Because it is a part that can not be made in any other way it can not be copyrighted and is subject to patents
C) Because it is probably under the patents of the manufacturer you admitted to the crime of violating someones patents!

I mean none of that would be important however you are the one screaming about
>MUH PROPERTY!
>MUH IP!
>MUH work!
So a reminder for you retardo.

>>105739007
>Says the no skill retard who relies on others posting on thingiverse!
NTA but I rarely use thingiverse. Downloading an STL without the .scad triggers my FOSS autism and so I always make something worse from scratch in vim.

>>105738934
>All FDM shit has gaps and is hollow on the inside, it's inherent to the process
This is the truth, regardless how often you say this print fags will be unable to process this fact. Print fags can not understand how their technology works.

>Injection molding does not have this problem
This is true however print fags will rather burn themselves alive then admit to this.

All FDM and sintering creates gaps that you can see. Denying this is denying reality. These are structural weak points and will result in the part breaking. Injection molded parts are stronger then FDM or sintering shit.

Regardless how often you explain this fact the print cultists can not process it they will quote like in 2018 the retarded talking point of
>b-b-b-bb- injection molding can not do all geometries!
>Muh other shapes

From people who make fucken wall hangers and cable holders and boxes!
These magic other shapes where never needed or used by anyone and even if they exist they are a cleaning nightmare and a dust trap.

Pictured one of these abominations! IMAGINE THE DUST BUILD UP!

>>105739023
>I rarely use thingiverse
Yet you use it....
Without contributing back.


BEHOLD THE ENDLESS GENEROSITY OF THE 3D PRINTING COMMUNITY!
What a community!

>>105739050
>This is the truth, regardless how often you say this print fags will be unable to process this fact. Print fags can not understand how their technology works.
lol what? Everyone already knows this.

>>105739062
Well yeah all my stuff is on github or my personal site.

>>105739063
See >>105738573
Print fags LITERALLY deny the shortcomings of their technology!

>>105739063
>lol what?
1) Admit that FDM prints are weaker then injeciton molded ones
2) Admit that the FDM process leaves places who are never joined to the previous tooth past extruded plastic.

I wait. Oh look another idiot not understanding how FDM works! How about you look under a magnifying glass how your sausage construct looks like once in your life!

>>105739077
>>105739080
You're trolling aren't you. I fell for the bait dammit.

>>105739068
>I am even more retarded!
AHAHAHAHA

>I use thingiverse
>However I will not contribute to it!

>All my shit is on my personal website like it is 1994!
>Also I will never give away my models
>MUH IP
>MUH WORK!
>MUH PROPERTY!
AHAHAHA

>>105739007
>Says the no skill retard who relies on others posting on thingiverse!
We've already established that I'm the one of us that can and does design and model his own components.

>muh patents
I don't own a patent on the part we're talking about. I do, however, have copyright on related documentation, including the CAD projects I will not be providing to you.

>however you are the one screaming about
You're the onely one in this threadscreaming about anything.

>>105739091
>I will not admit how FDM prints work
And here we go again!
>OR admit demonstrable FACTS!
And here we go again!

>You are trolling!
Literally no one in the history of 4chan was le trolling. You calling people debunking your entire arguments le trolling only makes you retarded.

Print fags are the trannies of manufacturing, FDM shit will never be real mechanical parts

>>105739117
>Xe doesn't 3d print molds for making xer parts out of carbon fiber
ngmi

>>105739096
>I don't own a patent
Yet you infringed the patents of the manufacturer!
>I don't own a patent
NO SHIT! XD

>patent
Patents are part of IP! You started screaming about IP!

>have copyright on .... CAD projects
Yes only they violate the manufacturers patents!

>We've already established that I'm the one of us that can and does design and model his own components.
Translationn
>I am retarded and autistic so I can not understand your arguments!

>We've already established that I'm the one of us that can and does design and model his own components.
Yea no shit retard, not the argument!

>>105739117
>FDM shit will never be real mechanical parts
It literally can not!
In like it has to many imperfections to be used and not disintegrate itself (~1h) because it is FDM plastic!


>trannies
Look at this thread and how deranged the print troons are over this subject.

>>105739133
>breaks when demolding
>can't be autoclaved
>soaks full of resin
Nice molds you got there retard, just get them CNC machined or injection molded and have something that actually lasts! FDM shit LITERALLY CANNOT BE USED in real mechanical scenarios!

>>105739133
>>105739186
Oh, and forgot you need tons of surface prep because of the shit surface finish, and the dimensional accuracy is shit too!

>>105739186
>just get them CNC machined
I was saying if these retards wanted to be le manufacturing at home they shill for CnC at home.
Also you can go surprisingly far with a CnC who can only work with aluminum and aluminum only parts can go very far.

>injection molded
You can CnC a aluminum mold and injection mold into that.

Yes it is not some industrial beast however if you need like 1 or 10 copies or 100 it is not a problem.

>>105739148
>Yet you infringed the patents of the manufacturer!
You should look up the term of patents in the US. Assuming this part was a patented part (it wasn't), the fact that it's on a ZJ Grand Cherokee (introduced 1992) like I told you should have been a clue that any relevant patents would be long expired.

>Patents are part of IP! You started screaming about IP!
Copyright is also part of IP, and it's the part I've been talking about. You're the one that brought up patents in a desparate grasp.

>Yea no shit retard, not the argument!
Just don't let yourself forget again that I design my own parts and construct them from plastic, metal, wood, or composites as I see fit, while you screech about how useless 3D printing is because even if you could afford one you wouldn't be able to make anything that isn't junk you can just download off thingiverse.

>>105739186
>FDM shit LITERALLY CANNOT BE USED in real mechanical scenarios!
Regardless how often we say this. The print fags will never acknowledge this.
This is why everyone hates them.

It is so comical, it is like them not accepting that 3D printed plastic melts at melting temperatures of plastic.

>>105739186
>PPA
>PPA
>release wax
>>105739199
>release wax

>>105738846
He is not talking about hygroscopy. There are only a couple polymers that are so hygroscopic water can penetrate through them like a seive. In fact I this only is a problem for PA6 and polycarbonate. If you injection mold with those materials water will seep through just the same as an FDM printed part.

>>105739186
But it already is. FDM printed parts last the same amount of time as injection molded parts. the ONLY disadvantage is a weakness in the Z direction which isn't difficult to design around.

>>105738252
Can you link to some European brands that are cheaper?

>>105739656
I recall seeing Smart Materials as low as 100 eur for 750g. There were a few other brands around there as well but several were 2.85mm.

>>105739243
>real mechanical scenarios!
wtf does this even mean? Everything is a real mechanical scenario.

>>105720701 (OP)
>Printer simps truly don't understand that they're printing garbage not meant to last.
We know, if anything happens we just print another then lmfaoooo

I use a mill

>>105720701 (OP)
>micro plastics
Plastic has less microplastic in it than other materials.

>>105738479
Its a simple revolve operation. I wanted it to be unremovable :^)

>>105738620
100% is kinda stupid ngl. I'd go with a big amount of walls and top/bottom layers.
If you need to have a solid part like in you pic you are better off making it out of wood.

>>105741788
>I wanted it to be unremovable :^)
The tip is to sharp you needed to make is more smooth

>>105739746
Not that anone
>Everything is a real mechanical scenario.
He means mechanically moving parts like 2 gears.

>>105739641
>. FDM printed parts last the same amount of time as injection molded parts
This is a absurd lie.

Literally all your 3D printing guru channels tried to make 3D printed gears and while you get a gear funko pop toy after you try to use them they disintegrate themselves will not last more then 24h.

I print both resin and fdm, currently have 2 p1s' working side by side printing rn. Who the fuck prints basedjaks and cup holders lmao. At best I can imagine printing upgraded car interior parts in some kind of abs or asa etc that might benefit from cup holders if you didn't have much before

>>105740835
That's because those tested bottles contained plastic on the caps. It's brittle crap that scratched off and got in the water.
3d printed parts have surface defects and easily release microplastics through abrasion. A 3d printed PETG water bottle would be way worse than an mold injected one.

>>105742555
Plastic bottles are plastic with plastic caps. Glass bottles have aluminium caps.
>The microplastics primarily originate from the paint on glass bottle caps, which deteriorates and contaminates the drinks during storage
>Simple cleaning methods, such as rinsing caps with water and alcohol, can reduce microplastic contamination by up to 60%
Even if they did that, you don't know they did and it's still way more microplastics than a plastic bottle with plastic cap. The only solution to it is to not use paint, except you can't just do that as at minimum you need a coating on aluminium. The next best solution is to use plastic lids on glass bottles. Or
Uncoated titanium. And your comments are 3d printed bottles are dumb af. Petg is also a different material to bottles which are pet not petg and caps are hdpe or pp

Ah yes the good old microplastics argument
I hope you're wearing 100% certified cotton clothes because your shirt is literally shedding microplastics by friction with your body
Also I hope you never walk by roads because you will be breathing microplastics from cars tires

>>105743145
See >>105735153

just got a two hundred dollar discount on my new bambu printer. hate these fags so much.

>>105743145
>>105743162
>>105743162
Save it and repost it to these retards.
These people are clowns.

I've never used a 3D printer or done CAD and this spergout is hilarious

>>105741981
A gear printed in ABS will last just as long as a gear injection molded in ABS.

Most injection molded gears are made from Delrin which cannot be printed.

>>105744821
>A gear printed in ABS will last just as long as a gear injection molded in ABS.
Wrong, you retard! All FDM shit is full of structural imperfections that cause them to crumble into dust in less than 24h!

>>105720765
what you do is that you make a lot of items at once and then send them out to everyone who needs one

now, this has a fair bit of overhead expenses, so some kind of money pooling will be neccessary

>>105721720
bro don't spooge on your computer

>>105744821
>A gear printed in ABS will last just as long as a gear injection molded in ABS.
This is literally impossible. Like literally denying observable reality.

Are you blind or did you never look how the shit you print looks like?
Even your gurus did the tests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbSQvJJjw2Q

You can not argue this!
>Most injection molded gears are made from Delrin which cannot be printed.
Looks like another thing your retarded 3D printing can not do.
> are made from Delrin which cannot be printed.
Looks like a (YOU) problem.
I am happy to pay ~$10 for factory made gears.

>>105744839
>Wrong, you retard! All FDM shit is full of structural imperfections that cause them to crumble into dust in less than 24h!
This is the truth and arguing with literally print cultists is why over 99% of people hate print retards.

They literally have less then 1% of use cases and if they admitted that they are only printing retarded toxic toys for retarded man children everyone can agree and laugh at them. The use cases for 3D printing are so small that is is unreal.

Talking to print fags and their absurd cult fueled lies makes you hate them more, they are literally denying what you can confirm with your own eyes!

i print cuz its fun
/thread

>>105746874
>I eat shit cuz its fun
>/thread

>technology
>food analogy

>>105747199
>SCAT is food!

>>105744821
>Most injection molded gears are made from Delrin which cannot be printed.
>>105746285
>Looks like another thing your retarded 3D printing can not do.

What did they mean by this?
https://www.amazon.com/Gizmo-Dorks-Acetal-Filament-Printers/dp/B074VZF3KP

we need commonplace home cnc mills

these spergout shill hate threads are always funded by a corporation spreading fud about a competing technology, like the apple linux hate threads. question is, which company funded this one?

>>105747982
Games Workshop

>>105748021
I doubt GW would sperg out about FDM, it's resin printers destroying their business model.

>>105748037
FDM is still commonly used for things like tanks and titans, and is great for bits for things like ork conversions. Anything above infantry scale really. And it only gets more precise as time goes on.
>picrel: deff dread I did last week

>>105747199
>>technology
>>food analogy
Food is technology.
3D printing!

PS: please delete yourself from the server if you do not like this!

>>105747982
>hese spergout shill hate threads are always funded by a corporation
As opposed to the print fags who never shill 3D printers and who do not make profits for D printer manufacturing corporations!

>>105748225
Can you please post links to the last three 3D printer shilling threads?

finishing up this solder fan from chinkworld

>>105748479
Why didn't you just buy one that won't POISON you with microplastics?

>>105748603
sir, you are talking to a microplastic!

>>105739133
I'm actually planning to do this for a part but I'm unsure of how to redesign this feature to be molded. It's a snapfit retainer for a shaft that holds a bearing. I don't suppose you have any ideas?

I use 3D printing to mock up parts before I waterjet/CNC. Also printing guns is fun.

>eating has nothing to do with food analogies

>>105747854
Delrin is the bitchiest plastic to work with in FDM by a long margin. This thread is full of retards so explaining why is a lost cause.
You can get filament made out of other stuff that's not printable too, like HDPE.

>>105749371
>Waah it's too hard to glue a piece of paper to my build plate! It just can't be done!

damn this dude gets all his factoids from ai generated videos on youtube
imagine his feed

>>105720701 (OP)
I 3d printed a bracket to fix an old rotary phone. Plastic on the jack was cracked.
And I 3d printed some replacement joysticks for some old 360 controllers that were broken

>>105749371
>My retarded meme tech can not work with X
>X is bad and we do not need it
Literally fox and grapes LMFAO

>>105749379
It's not just the bed adhesion that's a problem. I refuse to work with it because it outgases formaldehyde vapor when heated and none of my printers have the adequate filtration to deal with that.
You *can* print with it, but it is awful to work with in every way that a 3d printing material can be awful. With other materials you have one or two things to deal with but Delrin has all that shit at once.

>>105751475
There are simply better options if you need to FDM print a part that has the properties delrin has. There aren't 100% perfect replacements but other filaments would sometimes exceed Delrin in other ways.
Delrin just works extremely well in injection molding and CNC so it's relatively popular in those fields.

>>105751786
>if you need to FDM
>Fox and grapes even harder like a delusional troon
AHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

> if you need to FDM print
How about buying gears from a store?

I will keep printing my own warhammer models, fuck GW

>>105748037
I'm gonna start printing Warhammer models and start selling them at cost price just to help contribute them going out of business

>>105720701 (OP)
A giant waste of money unless you're a youtuber or something.

>>105736267
That's a good picture of yourself.