Thread 105726271

How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archieve, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18=
• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35
• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) - $8
• Samsung dongle - $12
• JCally JM20 Pro (8-Band PEQ) - $24
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>105707362

Pure is pure shit. Get sexa before is gone.

a part of me wants to hoard the eq guide, a part of me wants to share it

Truthear Gate is all you NEED.

>>105726499
*nozzle falls off*

>>105726499
Gato is finished.

>>105724098
Yeah, it is, pure cancer I would say. That's why I call it modern shuffle, because that's the best way to use it: put it on the shuffle and let chance decide what you are listening to today. That's how I do it, but I still would appreciate a feature where the longer you hold the scroll button, the faster it scrolls.

>>105726544
How many laptops do you have?

>>105726562
2

>>105726568
Nice! What are the specs of both of them?

>>105726588
The first is i5-10400/gtx1650, the second is 7735u. I bought the second one for less fan noise and potentially for linux, I heard AMD has better drivers.

>>105726344
This! So much this! Guys don't buy the Pure! When I was listening to that extra midbass I could feel my Testerone levels rising at the second! If it wasn't for my emergency supply of onions being arm's reach as I subjected to the Pure, I wouldn't be alive here typing this today!

Hello sóyim, I need a cable rec to replace the non matching cable that came with the illustrious. 4.4 or modular termination and relatively thin, 2 or 4 strands, preferably no branding. Anything under $300 is fine.

>>105726659
the two most important factors you should take into account is the hardware, which needs to be reflective, and the gold accents of the illustrious, which should be either supported or complemented by the cable.
i would recommend looking at the usual xinhs/ivipq and related stores. with them, the only thing you need to worry about is the cable itself, as the hardware and terminations are customizable. branding you will have to discuss with them, but most will have their brand name on the termination (not sure for modular).
zisin-30, zisin 80, ivipq-84, ivipq-178 are all yellow/gold cables, but you should be looking at others yourself

>>105726636
it's somehow warmer than the explorers

>>105726659
OEaudio kekbles

how to cure tinnitus?
shit's annoying

MRS' Pure Rating Prediction?
Darker and Warmer = Worse Techs = -1 star so 4

>>105726949
lol

>>105726949
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>105726954
going all in on this

>>105726949
stop using simgot for some weeks

edc pro + eqzo diary, life's good!

>>105726954
3 stars at best. Also fiio'd and balance'd two in one meme, tragic.

>>105726841
Thanks king, I'll check them out. A lot of good looking options.
>>105726901
These would be perfect but no earhook is a dealbreaker for me.

>>105726975
I haven't been, been using epz mostly

>>105727027
do you use eq?

Why are adjectives like warm and bright used for audio?

>>105727109
We use words to describe things. Sometimes one word can mean different things in different contexts. Hope that helps.

>>105727109
why do we give colors names to describe noise (white, gray, pink, etc.)??

>>105727109
Some people can't hear, pleasu understand.

>>105726271 (OP)
Why does QDCpos exist? Who likes QDC cables?

>>105726949
Stop paying attention to it. Also, fuck you for making me think about mine.
>t.High pitched tones mixed with low hums and sometimes hissing

BREAKING NEWS
KZ Gale leaked photo

>>105726949
extended fasting (72 hours minimum, at least 1 week preferred) and carnivore diet

20$ techs monsters?

>>105726949
Bathe in Cow Dung, Saar

>>105727645
Gato

>>105727645
CCA CRA

>>105727645
KBEAR KB01
Beryllium coating so very good driver quality

My wishlist for the Echo Mini 2
>Being able to work as a plug in amp+dac to a pc >Support more codecs like ldac
>Incase sd card size support to 512 gb
>Ability to act as a BT receiver
I would pay 200$ for it. I know that this is a pipedream because it would cannibalize sales of a few other products. But I just want a do it all with this kind of aesthetic + physical buttons. I dont need touch screens.

>>105727668
>wishlist
be made by a better company than f**o

how does one even measure techs

>>105727668
>Being able to work as a plug in amp+dac to a pc
This is a feature of a beta firmware of Echo Mini already.

>>105727784
you measure the faceplates. the better the faceplates the better the tech.

>>105727784
Techs are measured in USD. Everything else is poorfag cope. You'll become like simzo digging for second-hand "tech monsters".

>>105727784
how do you even tell the difference between a 1 and 3 star michelin restaurant? by eating the food, not staring at the menu. same goes for techs. you gotta hear them. FFT graphs won’t tell you the techs, only a rough idea of the flavor. it’s like trying to judge a dish by reading the nutrition label. good luck tasting "0.8g of salt.

>>105727804
>posted it again award

Why are people suddenly bringing up the KB01 again?

>>105727792
Oh I completely missed that, thanks bro.

>>105727916
kz checks bounced so the 'zo is switching brands

>>105727916
cuz it's the same thing as cadenza but $10 cheaper

the only iem that stands close to tanchjim oxygen is qkz x hbb

>>105727759
>>105727792
Also somehow found this
> Snowsky ECHO NANO is a more compact and affordable version of ECHO MINI, a pocket Hi-Fi player. Expected by the end of the year.

> Snowsky ECHO is a model of a class above ECHO MINI, created taking into account the wishes of users. Launch is scheduled for autumn.

> Snowsky DISCUE is a flagship pure audio player based on the Ingenic X2000 chipset with improved appearance and retro design.

Looks like I might find something more suitable for my needs if I wait till end this year.

>>105727938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=m6ngrvzjrDA&pp=ygUPQ2FkZW56YSB2cyBrYjAx
why does the kb01 sound boomier?

>>105727994
>sound demo
different tips and i dont rely on this japnigga getting a good seal

>>105727598
KZ headquarters sneak peek.

>>105727784
that's the thing, you don't
the whole point of techs is to not measure them, because if you do you end up leaving the hobby
>>105727994
notice how the pink average is lower on the kb01 above 3 khz, and how there is more energy on the kb01 at around 80-100 hz

Some shady store is selling knockoff spring tips for half the price. Our girl has grown enough to have her own chink knockoffs.

feel bad for purezo, the final product looks so much worse than the frosted prototype
and that tuning, yikes!

>>105728106
what's the point, spring tips suck

>>105727983
I'm interested in all of those for some reason. Maybe less so in Discue, but the rest seems to be made just for me -- cycling in the swimming shorts with echo mini in the pocket is less than perfect experience.

ok so can we remove the eq guide now that we agree it fucking sucks?
just a retard yapping about random made up shit, overly convoluted and long, and nobody uses it

>>105728329
nigga...be more kind! eqzo took 2 years to read the entire AES papers and another year to write that guide for us!

but the guide could be more straightforward to a novice, instead of adding a bunch o () (*) (**) (***) that hurts my eyes just make a beginner, intermediate, and advanced section, and make it easier to find the most used EQ software for every OS

>>105728329
but the guide is so good, see picrel

>>105728016
Juicy onahole

>>105728106
I like em

>>105726659
So.. how do they sound?
The illustrious

>>105728329
trvke

ZVX Pro mogs every budget iem in this thread.

>>105728874
Most open pos in existence behind the Audeze planar memes. Huge soundstage (subjectively). FR and everything else is okay.

>>105728016
Don't try to be funny or cute, you silly boy! :3

>>105729006
as a keychain, yes

>>105728329
>>105728461
>>105728483
>>105728971
CONSENSUS OBTAINED
NEXT THREAD: REMOVE EQ GUIDE

stfu bored faggot go do better shit with your time

uh oh stinky melty

>>105729651
your guide is shit and you wasted 2 years, kys

>>105729683
you're tacky and I hate you

>>105729699
you are brown

>>105729699
>getting this mad that no one likes his rambling schizo guide
watch out guys he's about to add another section!!

not him retard. he's not bothering to respond to the shit quality bait you keep posting every thread every day.

>>105729732
>not him retard
avoiding confrontation because no one likes you is sad, just stop please

note how of course you try to falseflag by inserting another comment pretending it was me. you're so fucking bored with nothing better to do you shitpost troll on a malaysian ear pos thread.

>>105729777
>falseflag
>shows nothing
i'd ask if you were ok but clearly you aren't after writing that shit

>>105729699
>>105729705
>>105729717
>>105729732
yeah, I'm not part of this whole ordeal.

>20% better than Hexa
First review by our fav SEA nigga https://youtu.be/p4NQwI5iT24

>>105729885
mandatory warning that this is a sourcefag who ranks chink dongles and shill the tanch zero

>>105729914
B-based?

asano soles

TOTL vidgame music, toppest of floors
https://youtu.be/YSdfIF7y8x8?si=lSFPQtgV1XPBXip3

TOTL vidgame music, toppest of floors
https://youtu.be/CfR11b5TNjk?si=Ur5CkkBM0msDnh-3

truthear is just moondrop but with good tuning

>>105730293
>mid bass in my pos
Eww!

>>105730293
shame that it's thicker, has a different nozzle angle, and looks god awful

>>105730293
aria 2 mogs pure like it mogs hexa and it's cheaper

I still love my salnotes zero, it has less bass than the gate but a perfect reference tuning imo. Great comfort and mic.

I hate the Zero 2 though, way too much bass. Even the Vivace is a bit bass heavy for me, but much better imo.

Now that the dust has settled and there's no longer shilling to be done...

Are budget IEMs really a bang for the buck compared to something 5x~20x+ more expensive?

Is it really all based on frequency response and all the extra drivers and tech doesn't mean shit?

>>105730605
Bunny is your answer.
And yes, read the EQ guide.

The website for the HiBy Digital M300 is confusing.

There's options for XOE 3.55mm and XOE USB-c. Like is this machine using 3.5 mm or usb-c audio???????

And why is it only 32gigs when the people who would buy this thing would prob be using .flac which will take up so much space

more than ever i just buy shit that looks dope. plus a thoughtfully matched premium stock cable, unlike >>105726659

>>105730649
it has a usb-c slot that can output to usb-c dacs too. so if you plug in a usb-c xoe (iem), it would would be functioning on it's shitty integrated dac.
>only 32gigs
you expand the memory with microsd card.

>>105730666
okay thats strange tho. audioniggas would buy this again, because it has 3.5mm audio. seems silly they would bother selling usb-c headphones as a combo

>>105730614
That shit is too much for me...

>>105730787
I'll buy one for you.

>>105730690
they're adding perceived value and offloading some really bad earphones they made.

>>105730170
Only real video game music
https://youtu.be/iJYvCHm3Ov4

>>105730870
know what
i kinda hear the vision

>>105726949
https://youtube.com/shorts/YyT9ZwWy5Jc?feature=shared
You're welcome

It might take a few tries before you find the right technique, hitting the exact right spot with enough suction is important

>>105728016
This is who they are testing their IEMs on.

Bunny.
Just buy it,

>>105731015
sibilant shouty pos

>>105728329
I don't know if it should be removed considering all the work put in but I wish the guy who runs it didn't have the answer of "Well I can't please everyone's knowledge levels!" in response to criticism.
Like bro you're appealing to no one's knowledge levels right now with how the guide is currently written. It's way too complex and terribly written for beginners, and doesn't contain info that any experts would get out of it either. So I just don't know who this guide is written for.

>>105731072
Beginners should git gud.

>>105731115
Yeah if only they had a guide to properly teach them or something

>>105731072
i mean i agree, but at what point do we cut off?
are we talking about complete newbies, or ones that at least know what eq is about?
the guide is best suited for the latter, i find the progression logical but a bit too much in the beginning

>>105731121
A guide can't make someone gud. First you git gud then you read the guide. If you think "step 1: here's how to press a button in autoeq" is too hard for the beginners then there's genuinely nothing that could help them.

>>105731151
The problem is step 1 is immediately followed by "draw the rest of the fucking owl". It goes straight from AutoEQ to a vomit overload of information.

>>105731151
>>105731159
he has a point, the first few parts are pretty simple
the ordering of certain parts could be improved (like take some parts from the intro and put them later since they're only relevant then) but if you're complaining about having to read a bit of text then i'm not sure if that's the way to go about it

>>105731159
Guides be like: just put the AKG into the NGEEOE and FAG the DAP

Just got my pair of EDC Pros in the mail. Wondering what EQ settings you guys use? Tried importing autoEQ settings from squig but I wasn't a fan of how it sounded.

>>105731072
>>105731159
It's information. Foundational knowledge and 101 (the whys and hows) should be covered, and that takes words. If you think another resource is useful, free of fallacies, and has high-quality information, share it.
Most retard normies are happy with the retard normie solution: autoEQ.
Now imo this deluded generations of listeners (along with openback headpos like HD6xx), but that's a tangent. Dumb normies use EQ in the dumb way and are satisfied.
If you want to get deeper, it's deep. No two ways about it. If people want to get deeper, they need to learn how discerning they need to be about the validity of measurements, understand the interaction their personal ear anatomy has, etc. which are factors directly influencing how a person should be EQ'ing.
Again, to lay all that out like I am takes lots of words.

>>105731234
sorry you were tricked by some guy who advertises here. that iem sucks ass and sound bad no matter what because it's so low quality

which eq should I use for my g10?

>>105726271 (OP)
>>USB-C DACs:
>• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) - $8
>• Samsung dongle - $12
>• JCally JM20 Pro (8-Band PEQ) - $24
>• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
>• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

is this outdated ? the rentry guide list is different.

>>105731478
no eq

>>105731573
it sounds bad without eq tho

>>105731392
It's not bad. Some songs just sounded off with the EQ settings I had. Got it for $1 on aliexpress.

FUCK
https://youtu.be/t7eKSJntrNY?t=102

I'm using Dunu SA6 Mk2 and ifi Go Pods as my gym headphones but I cannot get rid of the pressure feeling in my ears when using IEMs. It's subtle now, using Boroque tips, but still there and enough to annoy me. What are 'the ultimate ear tips' - or do I just have to buy a bunch of different shit to try?

I am not an music/headphone guy whatsoever, just dont care about the hobby. Anyway I am interested in bt inears, they MUST be wireless otherwise they are useless to me, thats a must and they should be preferably from a good brand like shure or westone(sorry I am not really familiar with actual good brands). Is this even a thing or is bt still considered junk and is getting avoided by proper brands? Last time I looked was 8 years ago and at the time there was no such a thing as premium bt inears. Money is concern, so no budget restriction here. Thanks

Moondrop Aria 2 any good?

>>105732538
for tws avoid audiophile brands like sennheiser and shure and look at samsung or apple

>>105732732
but I want an audiophile brand just with bt.

>>105732538
Just get Sony XM series, that's it. Proper hi-end brand (see Z1R), decent iems, good wireless experience.

>>105732786
>sony xm
but these are overears. I use inears 8 hours per day at work. Overears even if they are open (I tried SEVERAL 1000+€ ones, from literally every literally every reputable brand there is) and they are get heavy over several hours and most importantly hot. I literally cannot wear them for 8 hours a day, thats physically impossible.
>z1r
but these are wired, arent they? I also didnt knew sony was in the premium segment in terms of inears. Like I said price is of no concern. I am literally willing to pay several grand for proper bluetooth wireless inears I dont want to make any compromises here.

I'm looking for something I can wear for 8+ hours and that blocks out my annoying coworkers reliably. Are IEMs better than headphones for this?

>>105732844
>but these are overears
No they're not.
WF1000XM5
>but these are wired
Yes. This was an example to sell you Sony as a premium audiophile brand.

>>105732914
do you have anything else thats more expensive. I would rather not get something from brands like apple, skullcandy, sony, beats etc.

>>105732870
Yes, especially triple flanged ones. But your ears would be akin to a swamp.
Your best bet -- and I mean it sincerely -- are headphones with active noise cancellation. Or just earplugs, those work too. But IEMs in my experience are better than regular headphones at isolation.

>>105732930
Sorry, man, I think you're severely misguided here. Can't help you much more than what I already said.
Sony was at the source of high-end audio, and still pretty high up on the totem pole, right before real boutique shit. Absolute no comparison to skullcandy and beats.

>>105732951
What about something like:
B&O Beoplay EX

>>105732966
No idea. I recommend just sorting by the highest price and getting the first set. You have vastly different priorities.

A KZ employee sabotaging a rival IEM brand caught on camera:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBd10A88naQ

has anyone tried the TANGZU x HBB XuanNv? is it better or should I just stick with my Wan'er 2's?

>>105731571
neither are "outdated," just combine the two and shop among the options

>>105732458
eh just foams to relieve pressure, plain and simple

>>105732696
not really. paint still chips and flakes off, still prone to moisture condensation, sound is fine.

>>105733346
it's just fine. idk if you have a boner for a red iem i guess. i'd wager it's near end of production cycle as it never really sold well. amazon prime day is coming up (idk if relevant to you or not) maybe it'll be discounted

>>105733346
oh actually after seeing an amazon review mention channel imbalance, it reminds me that this was indeed a problem with their production and quality assurance. so i'd avoid on that basis alone, several people complained about that back when it released

>>105730170
>>105730870
Only real videogame music
https://youtu.be/jV4WrCW-5Lw?si=lNwUMFL-aNXIagFN

>>105732754
>but I want an audiophile brand just with bt.
why though?

>>105730170
>>105730870
>>105733651
If it's not a physical copy, it's not REAL video game music.

Your response?

>>105734050
All dacs sound the same, only audioniggers think otherwise

>>105734050
>$2000 device is on par with $1000 device

>>105734050
We know, apple dongle is good as well. You're still better off with a chink dongle on macbooks because system-wide EQ on macos is a joke.

>>105726271 (OP)
Those headphones look so fucking gay and I own OG starfields

>>105734120
>cirrus hump
kek, thats why some schizo ITT was defending that pos saying sabre's are too cold and analytical

>>105734050
Macbook audio out it the quietest DAC I own. Even with some dongles, there's some noise floor with high sensitivity IEMs. MBP? Dead silent. You can give apple shit all you want, but they know their audio stuff.

>>105734155
>they know their audio stuff
they do, and OP still refuses to include the apple dongle

>>105734184
One pajeet that can't read graphs shits up the entire thread when you include it.

>>105734201
well, then it's fair, I thought it's OP that's opposed to Apple or something

>>105734221
It's still in the consoomer guide.

G1 not slurping

I saw that.

>>105733931
hes a redditor. a normal person wants the best product, that guy only buy stuffs for the brand name

>>105734398
same, wtf was that

>>105734398
>>105734403
What are you schizos talking about?

>>105734426
Check the archive, newfagzo.

>>105734403
Bikes, so probably chuzo.

>>105734441
it can't be, please tell this is not true...

>>105732914
mogged by xm3s

>>105734429
>he's right

>>105734441
speaking of chuzo, I bought a pair of 2s for someone cause they needed something cheap and comfortable, and after playing with them for a little bit I've realized he was right and with a little eq they are unironically all you need

>>105734441
>probably chuzo
The pic was from German television, so probably not

>>105734429
how?

>>105734486
They're all you need until they clog and then you need something else.

>>105734480
Maybe, but you can't buy them new anymore.

>>105734497
Go to archive, find this thread and look through it. Or use ghostpostmixer.

Still no Xenns Top Pro or Monarch MK4 demo. Impressions are long this time so split into two parts:

>Moondrop Illustrious
Tested on Azla Crystals - Mid centric, there’s good body to the lower-mids but female vocals still sound mildly shouty. Also slight harshness in the “SH” and “S” of female vocals yet treble extension sounds cut off. Like the Twilight, mid-bass is tight and controlled without bleeding into the mids. But the lack of treble extension hurts resolution, and makes the Illustrious less "technical” than cheaper 1DD sets.

Tip-rolling to EBT EarrBond - using deeper insertion tips helped to remedy the harshness in female vocals. But the lack of treble air/sparkle still remained.

I’m a fan of this “flat” tuning style but Moondrop’s execution leaves more to be desired. I'd pick the Softears Twilight and Kinera ThorKing over this. 6/10.

>Moondrop Harmon
Tested on Azla Crystals - Very tizzly treble. Decent subbass unlike the illustrious but mids are really lean which paired with the boosted pinna, makes for an unpleasant contrast.

Despite being a harman set, female vocals don’t particularly sound good due to the edgy treble masking finer details in the vocals. Using narrow bore tips helped to add body back to the mids but now the treble sounds even more splashy.

I'd pick the Chopin, Supermix4 or Nova over this. Stock Harman sets are already "solved" and Moondrop is trying to reinvent the wheel here. 4/10.

>Hisenior Cano Cristales
Tested on Nicehck07s - Nice, smooth treble. Immediate improvement over the Moondrop Harmon. Super-bassy V-shape without being muddy. Boomy, thunderous bass like the Nightjar Duality, and nice, sparkly female vocals. Male vocals are acceptable.

Better midrange tonality than the Moondrop Harmon. Now bearing in mind the Cristales is a very colored set, the squig doesn’t show how intense the bass really is. It’s like the Hype 4/Tea Pro on steroids.

I would buy this. Default bass-head rec. 9.5/10.

>>105734531 (me)
Part 2:

>Kiwi Ears Etude
Feels kinda cheap, there’s a hollow ringing sound when I tap on the shell.

Tested on the gray stock tips – Mild V-shape, way less bassy than the Cano Cristales. I see it marketed as a basshead set, but the Etude’s sub/midbass are middling at best. The rest of the midrange is inoffensive and female vocals is appropriately positioned within the music without sounding shouty or veiled.

Vibration module: Doesn’t really seem that noticeable. I can feel it vibrating when resting the pos on my palm, but it doesn’t translate much into my auditory experience. Kinda gimmicky and track-dependent.
But sounds decent. No glaring flaws - treble is mildly splashy and cymbals could use more air and shimmer but I’m nitpicking. 7/10.

>Fatfreq Scarlet Mini
Tested on Nicehck07s - Good subbass. But very audible bass bleed into the mids. Bass decay lingers longer than the Cano Cristales. Male vocals sound overly husky. Female vocals are decent but treble is tizzy (like the Harmon).

I've heard cleaner bass. The Scarlet Mini has tons of bass quantity but at the expense of the rest of the FR. Also the Deuce is cheaper. And at its own price tier the HBB Punch & Cristales are better. The Scarlet Mini wins in sheer bass quantity but at what cost. 4/10.

>Tanchjim Origin
Tested on Nicehck07s – Nice vocal centric set. Kinda enjoyable mid-bass. But incredibly tizzy/splashy treble without proper decay. Cymbal snares sound glassy. The treble timbre is distracting and fucks with the overall tonality of the set. For example, in Bloody Mary by Lady Gaga, there’s a 4-beat drum loop at around the 1-minute mark: the tizzy treble on the Origin (and slow bass) causes the 4-beat to sound only like 2 hits. Swapping to EBT EarrBonds for deeper insertion doesn’t resolve this issue.

If I wanted a mid-centric vocal set I’d pick the Waner 2 – I think the $20 set unironically sounds more resolving. 3/10.

Epic bait

>7th Acoustics Supernova
Tested on SpinFit CP145 - Balanced sound with a slight treble emphasis. Bass is present but not overpowering, providing a solid foundation. Mids are clear and detailed, with natural vocal reproduction.

Treble is crisp and extended, adding sparkle but can be slightly sibilant. Foam tips help tame the treble a bit, but it retains its energetic character. Build quality is excellent, with a comfortable fit and high-quality cable.

Can be fatiguing over long sessions due to forward treble. Good for those seeking detail and clarity, but treble-sensitive listeners beware. 8/10.

>>105734507
makes no difference, you can easily install new batteries

>>105734543
NOOOO YOU CANT SAY BAD THINGS ABOUT TRANS JIM YOU CANT YOU CANT YOU CANT!

>>105734543
>>105734796
Ya win some ya lose some.

>>105734791
Used headphones, especially IEMs are gross.

I've got a set of (almost) Etymotics, but they came only with foam tips. Triple flange recs for them? Or anything else I should try? Really not feeling foams.

>>105734848
only the stock ety tips are good ime
frosted tips are out of stock, surprisingly their new tips fit me quite nicely

>>105734864
discontinued*, so don't wait in hopes of buying them

>>105734796
I tried to be more measured in my assessment but no amount of tip-rolling could fix the treble issue personally. But it looks like a common issue seeing as Munich anon also mentioned the "very gritty upper treble".

>>105734826
you can change the eartips ya know

>>105734885
as with everything treble, it depends on the user
I find the treble to be among the best I've ever heard. The only noticeable "issue" is vocal forwardness that can be a bit shouty, but that's about it.

"gritty treble"

oh no... xixtas are pissed

>>105735176
that 8k dip is vile

>>105735244
I'm not mad. Not mad at all.

are all the ones reviewed by anon mogged by edc pro?

>>105735298
edc pro is dogshit
with (((***good***))) eq, yes it mogs every non-eq'd pos

>>105735310
brown shill

>>105735400
you don't even own any pos, stop shitting up the thread you projecting street shitter

>>105735433
you are a brown shill and are scared to post hand because of that. no one believes your demoralization brownzo, kys

>>105735472
what are you willing to put on the line for this?

>>105734989
Can't get the wax and sweat from inside the shell tho.

>>105735517
sonys have some sort of foam dampeners inside to prevent it I believe

is the redditor right?

so they use the 2 core Gate cable now for Pure (not the 4 core cable they used for Hexa), but the plug is not angled anymore. Why did they do this, the angled plug is awesome. Good thing I bought a couple Gates, so that my Hexa will always have a good cable.

>>105736010
You can graph driver quality, that's why you avoid BA pos. Pure will be as bad as expensive pos.

these are great

>>105736171
It's over...

>>105736171
Fakejim Oranges

>>105735984
so each one of these has foam SOAKED in sweat and ear wax. fucking vile.

>>105736322
Just put the foams under your tongue for a while until they flush themself out

>>105736342
bro is suckin earwax like zyns

>>105736171
bro are you okay

Weekend, no shills, everyone just enjoying their music

>>105730905
shit's a meme, doesn't help at all

>>105734848
>(almost) Etymotics
>only with foam tips
Yu9 error 404?

Etymotic ER38-15SM tips

>>105734864
Not only that, first frosted tips were replaced with opaque tips(my favourite, pic related) then with clear tips that don't keep their shape and yellow with time but are softer than the previous two.

>>105736775
these remind me of some klipsch iems I had long time ago, they were also deep insertion

>>105736775
>404
Yessss.
>ER38-15SM
Got it. Any Ali alternatives to have in mind? Will be making an order soon.

>>105734543
>the $20 set unironically sounds more resolving
fuckin based!
transjim's supposed golden child BTFOd by wanker2.
kek

>>105736603
too bad it does help. with driver flex. and only briefly.

>>105736866
>shitting on all the reviewers
>believing a 4chan post
do motherfuckers really??

>>105737272
>he fell for the reviewer meme

>silicone tips that came with my pos irritate my ears
what are some comfortable tips
im assuming foam will be even more irritating considering how gunked up they get

>>105737658
Spinfit w1

>>105737658
comply t500 are perfect for me

>>105737658
try medical grade silicone
azla max, tanchjim t-apb, spinfit cp100+

~ hit play and enjoy the music ~

>>105738663
edcKING, I kneel.

>>105733989
>he actually buys music CDs of video games

>>105734543
interesting opinion, thanks

Are driver coatings a meme?

At it's highest settings, Spotify sound quality is unironically better than YouTube.music

>>105734543
You're just making up random words and sprinkling them around the text.

>>105739262
they probably have an effect on FR, so not really
>>105739283
sure
>>105739308
he thinks he needs a speaker amp to power his duality, he's retarded but harmless

no one asked for your opinion, deafzo

>>105739455
noone asked for your bullshit, either fucking dumbass

>>105738663
>rodent paws in reflection

what's the upper safe limit to eq bass for my zero 2?

>>105739531
you're brown

>>105739262
It's only one of a gazillion technical parameters that in their entirety determine the final result (sound), knowing about it is about as useful to you as knowing about the number of windings in the voice coil. You only need to really think about it if you're designing a driver, otherwise the result is all that matters.

Remember. Listen to your songs, not to your gear. Stop visiting audio equipment foruns and sites (including this general). Stop consuming audio equipment and go support the music artists you like.

>>105740166
I only listen to vtuber ASMR

>>105739582
Anecdotal evidence would suggest it's far higher than the upper safe limit of your ears...
>I had them running on the ADI-2/4 TRS output in High Power mode (my ear drums still flittering) with around 400 mW. Do not try that...
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/7hz-x-crinacle-zero-2-iem-review.50534/page-80#post-2293517

>>105739455
>>105739531
>>105740002
>no one asked for your opinion, deafzo
>noone asked for your bullshit, either fucking dumbass
>you're brown

>>105726271 (OP)
I bought Chu 2 and one of the earphones died even after replacing filter

I bought simgot Ew 200, right side is starting to die

What item can I buy that won't die after 2 months of use? I think both died because of sweat and heat

>>105740351
clean your shit
use tips that have filters if you know it's a problem because heat
don't be a gorilla nigger with your gear

simple as

>>105740377
Both have metal cases
İsn't it the cause

just got some hexas. they mostly sound good but boy howdy the naysayers aren't joking when they talk about the lack of bass. never considered myself to be a basshead but I really have to EQ up the lower frequencies for them to be enjoyable so far

>>105740406
no?

>>105726344
>>105726429
truthear peaked and their MO is just releasing shittier versions of their old iems
also hexa is $100 now? what the fuck?

>>105727672
>>105727109
>>105726271 (OP)
Does bnunny use cloth filters?

>>105740833
>also hexa is $100 now? what the fuck?
tariffs

>>105740443
those have boosted 8khz. remember to eq that region as well or else its sibilant

>>105740833
nah the new one has way better tuning

thoughts on these?

>>105741206
>kz
trash

>>105740990
>add mud
>better tuning

>>105741244
Check your T levels

>>105741444
You can easily eq in low end
You can't add treble
Also the full mud smear across the graph tells me that this is filter tuned, meaning its a piece of shit that will clog.

EPZ G20. You are an alchemist. A star. A master of your own gender. Reconnect with the cosmos and diddle the kids.

>>105741598
checked & kek'd

My phone's jack is dying so I got the JCally JM20 MAX and they suck the battery out of my phone. My phone uses 150mAh when listening to music through the internal jack, but it uses around 350mAh with the JCally JM20 MAX. Is it because it has a separate op-amp? Would the normal JM20 or the JM6 not make the battery die twice as fast?

>>105741645
Yes, the JM20 Max is only really suitable for use with a computer or something with a large battery (ie not a phone). It's also too powerful for IEMs (you're realistically not cranking it over 25% with anything you have).

The normal JM20 is the better choice when using IEMs or using it with a phone.

t. JM20 Max owner

>>105741645
Snowsky Retro Nano has a special Phone mode where it uses its own battery in wired mode to prevent just that. It's huge tho.

>>105742093
Qudelix also has that feature.

>>105732914
>>105734480
you're all wrong
XM4 >

>>105733651
the legend, check your techs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e48OijK2LiI
btw it's "Hydrocity" not "Hydro City", this zone is not even a city

>>105741244
the "mud" is there for additional impact, punch, texture and visceral tactility that Hexa lacks

>>105741598
fixed

Let me guess, you ""NEED"" more?

>>105744031
yes, i need a front vent

>>105744031
where's the removable cable?

Bros, what is this? I never wore those, I only opened the package a couple of months ago. I swear it wasn't yellow back then...

>>105744154
its too humid in there maybe

>>105744193
Oh shit, I put some wrapping paper around it and stored it in a shelf. So is this residue from this glue that is on the driver? I have another new Gate where I removed the plastic film, but kept the iem in the box, should I take it out?

Shiiiit bros, I stored the box standing, so all the cum went to the bottom of the shell.

Okay /g/ give it to me straight I wanna jump in and get a Chink MP3 Player IEM combo

>Budget
I have a Job
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
Wide range of musical taste but mostly from metal to EDM with some random weird stuff like Jethro Tull in it. Will be used on the go and because i'm a europoor in trains and busses.
>Frequency response preference and music examples
Yeah I have no clue. Pretty generic I suppose. I don't want some beats ass shit. I'd rather have it sound more audiophile.
>Past gear and your thoughts on them
Got me some DT770Pros. I like them overall but wouldn't mind a tad more base.
I don't buy hardware that i can't flash some custom rom onto. Most preferable if the battery is replaceable.

>>105744356
use your phone niggy

>>105744453
My phone has no audiojack and I want a dedicated offline device.

>>105744154
TURD...EARED!

>>105744556
buy a dongle

>>105744031
Yes.

>>105744582
And a splitter dongle and an USB Stick for Data? I'd rather have one of those dedicated chink devices.

>>105744607
get a second phone, mi 7 lite is decent

>>105741206
>kz
good

>>105744585
g10 are sooo goood

>>105744246
thats why i didnt buy a gate, negative faceplate techs

>>105744154
Its the glue. the 7 year old chink worker fucked it up and will now get 5000 lashings and no rations for 5 weeks.
pretty sure the foam would trap the humidity first before it somehow worked its way into the case. especially if you never used them.

>chu 2 clogs
>gate yellows
>edc pro sounds like shit
budget pos are looking grim

>>105744838
>edc pro sounds like shit
skill issue

>>105744356
>I don't buy hardware that i can't flash some custom rom onto.
based
>My phone has no audiojack
cucked
>generic response
tanch stargate 2 + any 1DD + EQ it for the generic response

>>105744709
obsoleted by g20

>>105744838
Bunny on top as usual.

>>105744854
Literally the same thing as g10. Now g30 will have a BA, that might be interesting.

>>105744884
BA? Avoid.

>>105744838
>there are only three options
Fucking retard.

>>105744884
g10=maidenless
g20=cute ai waifu with 3 fingers

>>105744838
all mogged by KBEAR KB01 since 2022

>>105744929
Everything with these cables is not an option.

>>105741645
JM6 (non pro) has way better power management and drains less battery

JM6 pro vs JM20 max for PC, which one?

>>105744946
>i can't do a roadie wrap and store my pos like a human
been using my e3k since 2022 and it's been fine

>>105745008
Who are you quoting?

>>105745001
no real audible advantage, jm6 pro is cheaper tho

I like bright neutral IEMs like Truthear Hexa and Etymotic ER2SE, what are some other options? Which IEMs have lots of air?

>>105744853
Thank you Anon! I think i'm gonna go with the Hifi Walker H2 and Rockbox Flash it. Any advice specifically for it? Or will any 1DD still do good?

>>105745064
tanch bunny

>>105745064
q1pro or g10

>>105745064
ignore tanch bunny, too much bass
gate, zero, ea500lm have air and decent bass

>>105745087
>ea500lm
shouty treblecannons

>>105745100
that's what anon wants

>>105745081
>>105745085
>>105745087
not looking for very cheap options. EA500LM looks interesting, how is it in comparison to Hexa, any experience?

>>105745085
g20

>>105745105
mega shouty and bright (guaranteed sibilance), a lot more bass
hexa isn't al that bright, it follow the new meta rather closely

>>105745124
>>105745124

>>105745064
how about the hexa and er2se that you said you like you fucking retarded nigger

>>105745152
Obviously I have those already, was looking for some new toy to buy

>>105745100
shouty in what configuration? I ask because it has 3 swappable nozzles that make actually noticeable changes. which you should know if you owned it

>>105745359
in all of them

>>105745359
In every configuration.

>>105740166
Song? I browse this thread so I can maximize the feeling of a Japanese woman licking my ears.