Just bought the OpenWrt One. What am I in for?

a neckbeard and a 54" waist

>>105727816 (OP)
>port speeds not equal
What is the point of including the faster one then?

>>105727838
fpbp

>>105728043
I wish LAN was 2.5G as well but it is what it is. WAN is shared with WiFi as well, ans you can connect a network card to the M.2 slot.

>>105727816 (OP)
A below average router.

>>105728072
You can reverse them, so 1GbE WAN and 2.5GbE LAN.

Whats the best rooter?

>>105728118
How much money you got?

>>105728126
$26,000

>>105728126
>>105728132
Not me

300$

>>105728146
Depends if you want something more consumer oriented or something custom built running software you'll need to spend some time to configure for your hardware and network needs.


If you want something off the shelf then I'd probably get a Dream Router 7 from Ubiqiti for an all-in-one box. Mix of consumer ease of setup and use with extensive customization options that will be sufficient for all but the most autistic homelab nerds.

If you want something more custom then there are plenty of router boxes on Aliexpress like the OP box but more powerful (2.5GbE ports, 5 or 10GbE ports, SFP+ ports, etc) that are going to be in the sub $300 price range and can run Pfsense or similar router OSes.

>>105728177
Fuck. NTA. I just bought an Asus RT-BE88U, I didn't realize Ubiquiti shit was that cheap. Pretty sure my ISP owes me an eero 7, is there any reason not to return the Asus for a Cloud Gateway Fiber? Seems like it will handle my stupid dual-WAN setup better too. Shitty DOCSIS connection included with rent + my own 2.5G FttH connection.

>>105728177
>If you want something more custom then there are plenty of router boxes on Aliexpress like the OP box but more powerful
That seems like a dumb risk of money unless you just want the cheapest available option. Chinaman use rindaos, rinux is for dumb waito piggus.

>>105727816 (OP)
i have one and i found the signal bad and the documentation lacking. went back to my fritzbox and left it in a cupboard

Can it handle SQM at 1Gbps? When I turn SQM on my router refuses to go above ~480Mb/s

>>105728043
>What is the point of including the faster one then?
exact same question here. seems retarded without another 2.5G port

>>105728468
UCG-Fiber is a fantastic value, sets you up for immediate 2.5Gbps networking and gives you the ability to expand with a 10Gbps (SFP+ or 10GbE) switch down the line for multiple 10gbps clients on your LAN if/when you need those speeds.

>>105728596
You don't really NEED SQM on faster connections

SQM is only gonna be useful when you're hitting your bandwidth limit, but with a 1gbps WAN connection, most downloads you find will be 300-700mbps, leaving plenty of headroom for other applications.

Most companies don't even recommend using SQM/QoS on connections over 300mbps as it doesn't generally help outside of specific instances.

Unless you're CONSTANTLY downloading heavily WHILE doing latency sensitive tasks at the same time, you should probably just go without SQM.

>>105727816 (OP)
Didn't they just release a much better version a few weeks ago

>>105728177
Only retarded pseuds use or recommend ubiquiti

>>105728146
Mikrotik RB5009UPr+S+IN

>>105728132
that should cover street price on an Nvidia Spectrum SN3700 with 32 ports of 200Gbe (which you would then install openwrt on, ref https://openwrt.org/toh/mellanox/spectrum )

What should I get if I have 5Gbit internet?

>>105729339
One with 10G ports and the routing capacity

>>105728468
>I just bought an Asus RT-BE88U
damn anon you're me
im sticking with the be88u for now since I have it going to a 10gig switch via sfp+ now that also goes to my network closet with another 10gig switch inside
I was going to consider buying an entire Ubiquiti setup if this switch didn't work with the new SFP+ cable I had to try instead of the first one I used

>>105729355
Do they have that? Or should I just use a small PC or something?

>>105729384
They exist, UCG-Fiber mentioned above has 2x SFP+ 10gbps ports and 1x 10GbE port, any of which can be configured for either LAN or WAN.

>>105729401
Don't want proprietary shit though.

>>105729405
Well then building your own is the simplest option

>>105728596
>>105729226
>>105729409
>>105728043
>mfw freetards fell for it (again)

only 2 ports and wifi? you got got

>>105727816 (OP)
I don't really understand this one. I guess it was to make it easier to support the project financially? Well, hopefully the next generations of this thing are a bit better.
OpenWRT as a project is incredible though. Seriously, it's so fucking good.

>>105729689
It's fine for most people, especially if you have 1gbps WAN or less since you can just change the 2.5GbE port to LAN facing and use the 1GbE port for your WAN.

Then if you get a 2.5GbE switch ($30-100) you can run you entire LAN on 2.5GbE.

That's not bad for $90.

>>105729875
Yeah but how good is the wifi compared to established options like the Flint 2 or R7800?

>>105727816 (OP)

Wait what?

Why get that when you could get a cheap N100/N150 and put PFSense on it? Then use any APs you want in a mesh?

I don't understand why this product exists.

>>105730177
Fuck-a-you

>>105730177
That would still be more expensive.

>>105729210
Aye but feature wise?
>>105729363
I can still return mine, haven't even opened it. No wonder I didn't know about the UCG-Fiber, that shit just came out.

>>105732770
>Aye but feature wise
Generally equivalent with a slight edge to ubiquiti for sheer breadth of their ecosystem (routers, switches, access points, security cameras, NVRs, door locks, intercoms, license plate reader, point to point long distance wireless bridges, etc).

>>105733447
>Generally equivalent
Huh. I was hoping it'd offer a lot more over literal consumer grade stuff. Still, it's cheaper lol.

>>105729563

>>105727816 (OP)
You can get chinkshit with similar hardware for as little as $15
No 2.5gbe or poe though

>>105733500
I mean, it's one of the more robust and featured consumer platforms, but Asus isn't THAT far behind either hence they're generally equivalent when discussing pure router features. Ubiquiti just has a much larger ecosystem so if you plan to do your own security cameras, your own door access control, etc ubiquiti is the clear choice.

>>105733578
Hmm. Thanks for being honest with me anon. I've helped clients out with setting them up but never extensively played with them. I'll dick around more with one of their UI control panels and see what they can actually do. I was very annoyed with the most recent update bricking two of them though. Update went fine, then they'd get stuck "requiring a reboot". Factory reset, works fine. Restore backup, requires reboot. Luckily neither client had very complicated setups. And I got to fix "the last guy's" fuckup w/r/t how their APs were extremely stupidly setup. Fucker made them get U7 ProMaxSuperwhatevers and didn't set up MLO, no dedicated 2.4G IoT network for their WPA2 only garbage like the alarm system, Sonos shit, etc.
Can't hate on him or Ubiquiti too much, free unexpected 2 hrs billed!
>ecosystem
The really interesting stuff (cameras, door, etc) would be far enough into the future that I'd probably have replaced the router by then. I live in an apartment. Their switches look way too expensive for what I need.
I wasn't super sold on the RT-BE88U because of the lack of a 6 GHz radio. Not entirely sold on the UCG-Fiber but now I actually have another option IG.
Asus still getting returned for now lole, Frontier did in fact send me an eero 7. I'll plug it into the same chink shit 2.5G/10G switch I already have for now, and once I actually need to set something up beyond a Static IP at home...I'll probably buy both.
>hate having Ubiquiti's cloud shit all up in my home network
>buy 2-3 AP's
>hey ma, I'm going to upgrade your old AiMesh shit
Or
>get frustrated with the ASUS doing what one of my older RT-AC68U's liked to do (oops the Nvram is full teehee. Gotta delete some static IP assignments anon-kun)
>buy another 2 cheaper ones with Wi-Fi 7
>hey ma, I'm going to upgrade your old AiMesh shit
Everybody wins. Including my ma.

>>105728146
For OpenWRT either a Flint 2 or Banana Pi R3. The former being a faster, cheaper, less stupidly configured version of OP and the latter being a full fat WiFi 7 router based on MT / Filogic's newer SoC.

Imo prosumer shit like Mikrotik and Ubnt has no place in consumer routers any more. OpenWRT on Filogic is just as good and supported forever.

>>105736476
> OpenWRT on Filogic is just as good and supported forever.
Completly delusional, or retarded if you're talking about consumer routers.

For the home network dweeb, sure. But for general use consumers you'd have to be a moron to suggest OpenWRT unless you have someone who knows what they're doing set it up for them.

>>105737558
If you're buying Mikrotik or Ubqiti it's assumed you're going to read the docs and do something a basic TP-Link won't. Otherwise why are you wasting money?
>set it up for them
The only setup it needs is click the hardware NAT enable button. It's faster and easier than 90% of consumer firmwares.

>>105737611
>Otherwise why are you wasting money?
Ubiquiti is literally cheaper than TP-Link/Asus with similar hardware.

>>105737715
Quick look on Amazon says the cheapest TP-Link WiFi 7 router is $100 and the cheapest Iniquiti is $190.
>but that's not
lol normgroid don't care. WiFi 7 is WiFi 7.

>>105737894
>i'm retarded

I could tell

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BZFK3BF8

$450

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DGQVB7GH

$299

https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/udr7

$279


At least compare somewhat similar products before making a post that makes you look retarded. The $100 router you're talking about doesn't have 10Gbps ports, doesn't support 6ghz wifi, and barely supports Wifi 7 (it doesn't support any of the higher channel width that Wifi 7 offers in the spec compared to Wifi 6)

It's basically a glorified Wifi 6 router that has just enough updates to technically meet the minimum to be labeled Wifi 7.

>>105737948
That's what I just said dipshit. Read the post you're replying to.

>>105737984
Yes, I know you said you're retarded, and I read that. But you're still retarded and deserve to have your nose rubbed in your retardation.

ub's chatbot is having a melty

>>105728095
the fuck is that going to do when there's only two ports

>>105729875
if more lan ports are needed, a cheap switch can be connected.

>>105738303
...yes that's what I said
> Then if you get a 2.5GbE switch ($30-100) you can run you entire LAN on 2.5GbE.

>>105738303
Like someone else noted it has a M.2 slot which could be used for another 2.5Gb adapter. It's what the Flint 2 does except without the added expense of M.2. Just dumbass propeller beanie hardware.

>>105727816 (OP)
Absolute dogshit WiFi
Overall it's great but the WiFi is weak

>>105739179
Who uses wifi?

>>105739320
Heck off

>>105739449
>11ms

>>105739534
I notice you didn't post yours

>>105739584
I'm not on wifi.

>>105727816 (OP)

>>105739689
Feel free to post a wired result

>>105739449
>doesn't realize that this "flex" shows that wifi has horrible bufferbloat
there really is no fixing stupid

>>105739449
Am I supposed to be impressed?

>>105740359
>bufferbloat
>on a phone
Lol

Lmao even

>>105740534
I'm noticing a distinct lack of a speedtest to back up your superior smugness.

>>105727816 (OP)
Why is the WiFi so crap?
Should I get different antenna?

>>105742515
>why is the wifi so crap?
Because it's $90 open source slop.

>>105727838
Correct. OpenWart is for unemployed hobbyist incels and tinkertrannies who cant afford a proper firewall

>>105742652
>Filtered
LMFAO

>>105742751
>"F-f-filtered! Ha h-ha!"
>t.

>>105742515
Slow CPU and only 3 streams. It's a $60 router with a bunch of dumb shit added on.

>>105742992
How does that explain a consumer router with less powerful specs but better wifi

>>105727838
i have a 26" waist :3

>>105743047
noise reduction features in wifi chips paywalled behind proprietary DRM blobs.
A router manufacturer buys a wifi chip and embeds it into their routers. Then they pay a licensing fee to get access to the secret datasheet behind NDA and keys to enable noise reduction or signal boost features of the chip. Commercial router now has higher datarate and range.
Open source router manufacturer only uses public datasheet to embed wifi chip into their routers. Open source router now has worse wifi than the 30€ mass produced router from chinksoft INC.

>>105739841
NTA but wired latency is like 5x to 20x less

>>105743183
The MediaTek chips used are completely open source with software designed around it's use.
Your answer is incorrect.
Why do you keep changing your story?

>>105743047
You're going to have to show me your benchmarks.

>>105743635
Google is free kid

>>105743653
yeah that's what i thought

>>105743659
Nobody is going to spoon-feed you kid

>>105743635
>>105743659

>>105739179
>>105742515
>>105742520
From what I've read you need to set the country and transmit power in the wireless settings to get better range.

>>105743886
Already done that

usecase?

>>105744013
Freedom

>>105743217
Sure, but I'm not going to plug my phone into an ethernet adapter

>>105744666
Why not?

>>105743620
because I saw exactly that with atheros chips

>>105747085
>atheros

>>105742652
>who cant afford a proper firewall
As opposed to chinky $50 routers that only run proprietary firmware?

>>105747085
> Closed source
Fuck off kid

>>105747085
>>105744638

>>105727816 (OP)
It's a great access point. Probably fine as a router for a home or a small business. I set one of these up for my next door neighbor.

>>105738248
Enable 2.5GbE LAN switching, which is more important than having 2.5GbE WAN.

>>105728118
Depends on what you're doing with it. You can get a decent router with de-kiked firmware from protectli.

>>105727816 (OP)
I have no clue about this product. But it seems to be just any router that comes with openWRT preinstalled. Why would you do that? I bet you could get the same performance and perhaps a router better suited to your use case for less and then just use openWRT on it.
Why OP? Am I missing something?

>>105747538
just because a chip's firmware is open source doesn't mean that its SNR is superior to proprietary ones

>>105738248
I'm gonna tell you a secret: all consumer routers have 2 ports, the second port is just connected to an internal switch which exposes 4 ports

>>105747590
It's not noticeably worse. Evidence: None of the retards in this thread have yet demonstrated it's worse.

Trying to rangemax single APs is stupid anyway. If it reaches 30+ ft in every direction it's good. Buy more APs so you don't end up being range bound by shitty client antennae.

>>105747686
my use case was a wifi bridge across more than 30 ft

>>105747605
My router has an SFP+ WAN port, and a 2.5GbE WAN port, which aren't using the same internal switching backplane that the 4x 2.5GbE LAN ports use.

And you can re-assign the ports from WAN to LAN, so I can do 10Gbps SFP+ WAN, 2.5GbE LAN (dedicated) and 3x 2.5GbE LAN (sharing the same backplane).

So you could argue my router has 3 ports. An SFP+ port, and two 2.5GbE ports with one of those 2.5GbE ports sharing the backplane with 2 others.

>>105747709
I know it exists, there are 120$ x86 boards on ali that have 5x2.5g ports, but every consumer router that is sold as a "wifi router" to normies has 2 ports and an integrated switch

>>105747686
Your mum regrets not having an abortion

>>105747707
So use higher gain antennae. This is audiophile stupidity.

>>105747739
mine is a consumer "normie" router, though a bit more "prosumer" than pure consumer.

>>105747760
yeah for that price they could have added 2 more 2.5g ports, they arent that expensive chipwise

>>105747686
>not buying an OpenWRT One and setting the country code to MY
>Not rangemaxxing with multiple APs and wifi roaming
NGMI

>>105747795
There is little reason to, unmanaged 2.5GbE switches are like $30-70 if you really needed more 2.5GbE ports.

And as I said, you can re-assign the WAN ports to be LAN ports if you wanted, so either 4x 2.5GbE LAN (with 1 being dedicated the other 3 sharing the same backplane), and 10Gbps SFP+ WAN. Or you could do 1x 2.5GbE WAN with the 10Gbps SFP+ port used for LAN along with the 3x 2.5GbE ports that share a backplane.

>>105747824
no, I mean you cant do any routing tasks between port 1-3

>>105747864
Why not?

Any of the ports can be assigned to act as a WAN port, you'll just suffer some performance penalty if you used one of the 3 LAN ports that share a backplane.

>>105747880
are you sure they share a backplane? It looks like all 5 ports have an interface and are delivering packets to the OS individualy, so it's 4x2.5g + 1xSFP

>>105747811
Is MY really the best country?

>>105748033
I mean I can't ask anyone at Ubiquiti, but according to Gemini it's 3x 2.5GbE sharing a backplane, 1x 2.5GbE dedicated, and 1x SFP+ dedicated.

>>105748047
>>105748033
Gemini is pretty adamant that the LAN ports share a backplane that likely has 3-5Gbps of shared bandwidth to the SoC. With the 2.5GbE WAN and the SFP+ WAN both getting dedicated direct to the CPU connections.

Obviously it's an AI and it could be wrong, but we're getting into the weeds of the architecture that just isn't published information that I can easily verify with anyone.

>>105727816 (OP)
How do you guys handle upgrading your OpenWRT devices? I know you can use attended sysupgrade, but I'm a bit wary because configs may change even with minor version bumps. I know this is unlikely, but for something as crucial as the router itself I feel like more attention to detail should be paid.

>>105748112
Yeah just a sysupgrade. On rare occasions when something changes there's a small chance some feature breaks, but probably nothing critical.

>>105748076
iperf and find out.

>>105728118

>>105727816 (OP)
Which one?

>>105748112
The core router part isn't going to break outside rare driver regressions. They're not going to lose your SSID / password or whatever. I've used it over 10 years and never seen that.

Some luci module configs or /etc files may need to be manually merged if you're running a bunch of extra services.

>>105743217
sup neighbor! you work on base?

>>105747554
switching to what you stupid nigger? a downstream switch with multi-gig support does not need the upstream to have multi-gig support. the data does not pass back and forth through the router once it has been routed. the router will only be sending data back and forth through the WAN, which is only 1 gig in this case! the only way that 2.5gb ever comes into play in this router is if you have it on WAN (with multi-gig service, and if you have multi-gig service, i hope to god you don't use this piece of shit) and then saturate LAN + WIFI or you have it on LAN and saturate WAN while doing additional WIFI x LAN traffic. assuming you have gigabit WAN, even. this chipset was clearly not designed for a core consumer router, but it's cheap so everyone and their mother is using it.

>>105739449
>1Gbps
I had those 20 years ago.

>>105748936
That's 1gbps wireless anon

I have 2.5gbps wired.

>>105743151
What's your secret?

>>105749375
>>105748936
Also, while it's technically possible for you to have had 1gbps 20 years ago, it's frankly unlikely.

In 2005 you'd be hard-pressed to get 1gbps as a business in a major metro area, let alone as a residential consumer.

I hate how blue it is

>>105728118
WRT54G

>>105750627

>>105748845
data passes through the router if it's cross-VLAN traffic thoughbeit

>>105750657
i have one still nigger

>>105749397
estrogen

>>105747605
They actually only have 1 port, but that port is faster than 1gbps. The WAN/LAN separation thing is done inside the switch with VLANs.

>>105748033
just look up the soc it uses

>>105751868
IPQ5322 with an RTL8372

But without a block diagram it's impossible to say exactly how much bandwidth the backplane actually has available, it could be using a single 10gbps internal connection to the SoC, but more likely it has a 10gbps + 1 or 2 2.5Gbps connections, or even two 10gbps connections giving each port full bandwidth despite sharing a common physical backplane.

So the SoC doesn't really help narrow it down.

Page 11 bump

>>105751306
I didn't doubt that you dumb faggot, that doesn't make it the best router by any stretch.

Even for its era at best you could say it was the best value most people had ready access to.

>got asus rt-ax55 for wireless VR (quest 2) years ago
>works fine, remote in with openvpn server on the router
>building's internet provider switched, now we're under cgnat (along with going from 1gps sym to 100mbps)
>router can't even do wireguard
what should I get

>>105756408
It was a decent router for the time, but got memed wildly out of proportion to its capabilities because of people uncritically following home network nerd posts from 5 years previous.

New Mediatek routers are the best ever made in terms of open source support and ease of use. This would be a golden age if the supply chain wasn't so fucked.

>>105756523
A VPS unless they let you take incoming v6 connections. Wireguard isn't going to magically bypass cgnat.

>>105756490
A VPS unless they let you take incoming v6 connections. Wireguard isn't going to magically bypass cgnat.

>>105756568
nah no ipv6 they're too retarded for that
I know I need a VPS or something similar to have a bridge for wireguard, but not being able to connect to my home network is not great

>>105756523
>This would be a golden age if the supply chain wasn't so fucked.
I think most people wanting the best open source experience are just building their own boxes

Dedicated router hardware ends up just being for the people obsessing over every watt of power consumption.

>>105756654
>Dedicated router hardware ends up just being for the people obsessing over every watt of power consumption
Or you know...the average consumer who just want's an all-in-one turn-key solution that you turn on, plug in, and it justwerks.

>>105756676
Wasn't talking about normies
Just saying if you have an intention to replace router firmware then you're just in it for the hardware. You're otherwise unrestricted by default for x86

>>105756849
Good 4+ stream wifi adapters outside routers are ultra rare and often cost as much as the full router. If you have a big house you have legit use case for dedicated APs as well, and open source allows you to mix hardware brands in mesh deployments.

Networking noob here, what's the best place or resources to learn about installing and configuring openWrt on a router? I have a netgear that is supposedly compatible

>>105757197
the openwrt website

>>105748936
You were one of the first and likely had to pay an arm and a leg if you're not just blatantly lying.

>>105757878
of course it was a lie.

>>105758090
Hey, you never know

It's possible he lived in one of the 3 or 4 neighborhoods in Stockholm that had 1gbps in 2005.

>>105757197

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cxiYmn3OTU

>>105758138
This video is pretty dated.

>>105727816 (OP)
why do people pay more than $50 for fucking routers? I've never paid more than $20. chink routers have been good for me so far, the ones that can be rooted and support openwrt

>>105760499
Because not everyone is stuck in the sticks with 400Mb DSL.

>>105760274
Are you going to cry?

>>105760677
Fuck off

>>105727816 (OP)
What a dumb choice of SoC for that retarded port configuration.

>>105762316
R4 is righteous though. Legit achievement for a little chink SBC company. It's a shame Chromosome One gets the limelight because $10 kickbacks.