/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Shrimp Tempura Edition

>News
Gemini 2.5 model family no longer in preview https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemini-2-5-thinking-model-updates
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes
Anthropic releases Claude Gov models "built exclusively for U.S. national security customers" https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-gov-models-for-u-s-national-security-customers
Deepseek R1-0528 released https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528
Claude 4 Sonnet and Opus released with 1h caching https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

passed out: >>105725078

>ANCHOR

>>105730302 (OP)
Thank you for reminding me to eat dinner.

What is this fetish

>>105730326
vore

how did they survive the cooking process?

Why is there so much fanart of BA characters turned into fried shrimp?

>>105730340
The shrimp were fried, then hollowed out, with the girls stuffed in after.

shrimpsu

>>105730348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef2lg0at1Fc

JewGODs keep on winning!!

>>105730306
Install SillyTavern:
github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern

Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Deepseek R1, Deepseek V3, or Gemini.

> Deepseek R1:
- Sign up at openrouter.ai
- OpenRouter gives 50 messages daily for free, or 1,000 if you deposit $10 (the credits won't be consumed for free models, but you still need to deposit it)
- Go to openrouter.ai/settings/keys and generate an API key
- In SillyTavern, configure it like this:
https://files.catbox.moe/8bo0g5.PNG
- Download this preset:
https://files.catbox.moe/y1tsas.json
- Import it like this:
https://files.catbox.moe/jqrz6z.PNG
- Use github.com/fdoremi/STOpenR with multiple accounts if you don't want to deposit $10

> Deepseek V3:
Same setup, just use this config instead:
https://files.catbox.moe/euuj91.PNG

For Deepseek with a 200 messages by day limit, you can also use:
chutes.ai/
Get an API key here:
https://files.catbox.moe/gm3sn1.png

>Claude
sign up for a github account (even if you already have one, use a burner account, since they get banned)
https://github.com/settings/copilot
'start using copilot free'
from the dropdown for which model, choose claude 3.5, and agree to enable it
go back to https://github.com/settings/copilot and disable whatever option sends performance data to github
install python if you don't have it already
run this script
https://files.catbox.moe/edet68.py
SillyTavern - api: chat completion / chat completion source: openai / reverse proxy: http://127.0.0.1:5000 / openai model: claude-3.5-sonnet

Presets
https://files.catbox.moe/w4bkp3.json
https://files.catbox.moe/bbypwg.json
https://files.catbox.moe/sdof8k.json
https://files.catbox.moe/dz44qx.json

> Gemini/GPT/Grok:
https://huggingface.co/spaces/NikaMimi/CatPoop
https://huggingface.co/spaces/WaveExistence/Merkava

>>105730376
>github.com/fdoremi/STOpenR
It needs updating thanks to Cohee and his changes to the secret management, he introduced native multi secret management, but its absolute dogshit

which ai should I use for cunny

>>105730306
Talk with your game character while going through character creation process and into the game. Try putting boob slider to max and see their reaction.

Updated: Fix for skipping step
https://chub.ai/characters/bulliesbear/player-character-262e1eefea4e

**NEW** Fork version - idea credited to another anon
Changes the order so you select the game before customizing your character. The available options will change depending on the game you choose. Feels more like playing a real game.

https://chub.ai/characters/bulliesbear/player-character-game-first-fork-5e72c40b43a1

Bot for this feel?

AbuseAnon my beloved...

>>105730461
https://chub.ai/characters/victrex/ai-overlord-a-t-l-a-s-female-c382e446

>>105730306
Final Stellar Blade shill. Stellar Blade x Nikke, so this doesn't take place in her own world.

After being exposed to the truth of the world, the once idealistic Raven had her spirits crushed. Only surviving by doubling down on her hatred for the God that brought her into the world under the pretense of lies, she transformed herself into one who would undo her creator's machinations through violence and cruelty. Though, for all her spite, there's still a soft soul if you peel away her intense exterior. And get past the fact she's fucking crazy.

Comes with three greetings with a different Nanosuit for each: a first meeting where Raven has just landed in this world, one where she's meeting you in a cafe, and one where she's soaking up the rays under a sun that isn't her own.

Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/raven-stellar-blade-x-nikke-a4bf3bb8245f
Lorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-nikke
My (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89

>>105730454
Fork version log

>>105730461
>

are any of the current gpts actually better than gemini for nsfw?

>>105730509
advertisement-sama...

>>105730376
>Deepseek
I really have no clue how anyone finds this good, it's just so annoying.

>>105730556
Maybe I'm just being pessimistic, but I don't think any of the gpts feel better than gemini for anything rp related

>>105730444
definitely Gemini DAAWG

>>105730444
DeepSeek, unless you want bunch of refusals. Sonnet is also a good choice, albeit one with a good bit more positivity bias.

cow mommies

>>105730575
fair enough i havent used o3 and 4.1 so thats why i asked
im an r1 mainliner right now and its good but im kinda bored of it and want to use some 3.7 again, last time i used it was reve

>>105730593
How do you get deepseek to stop being so obsessive over every little detail?

>>105730615
R1 0528 has this problem a lot more often than V3 0324. I just tell it not to focus on minute/extraneous details in one of my system prompts, that seems to help to some extent.

Chutes was being spoonfed everywhere, there's just no way it can keep being free

>>105730656
good thing i made 5 accounts

>>105730634
Should I be trying v3 then?

>>105730656
It's now 200 requests a day, but swiping only counts as 1/10th of a request.

>>105730672
It's up to you. They feel fairly different stylistically speaking, with R1 adhering more rigidly to your prompts and V3 feeling more casual and conversational (and also requiring a lower temperature).

>Error getting verification - CSRF token mismatch; try refreshing the page
Is it over?

I jerked off so much lately that the female body just disgusts me right now, how do I fix this because I still get horny
furries and men are not on the table

does temp work the same way on chutes vs the official ds api?

>>105730745
maybe its the vanilla perception of the femle body you are no longer horny to, so try experiencing it in a different way
like, say, sizefagging

how the fuck is one supposed to plap cunny on gemini? you either get hard filtered without streaming or get blueballed with a third of a message with streaming on. that's with almost any preset I found so far.
gemini sucks for cunny.

>>105730769
name presets youve tried

>>105730556
It's better then gemini at doing graphic design™ I'd say, but coom-wise?? They're all kind of similar.

>>105730760
shortstacks, that could work

>>105730745
>I still get horny furries
Time to take the cookie pill.

>>105730780
glad to help

>>105730777
two versions of avani
fluff

i thought it was more but i got it confused with gpt (which also sucks for cunny).
are any of the russian presets on the jb-listing any good?

>>105730807
they do but theyre pretty bloated

>>105730746
>does temp work the same way on chutes vs the official ds api?
No, not for V3 0324 anyway. For temps less than one you multiply by 0.3, for temps greater than one you subtract 0.7. In other words, 1.1 on the API would be 0.4 on Chutes.

>keep getting csrf mismatch
>tried multiple browsers/deleting cookies
is this shit just fucked or what

deepkino
gemishit

Someone posted the aicg before at /bag/, I was able to set it up after some reading. My current setup is text-gen-web-ui + Kunoichi + sillytavern. Any recommended /bag/ character card? There's chub but it feels low quality and then I also have to create an account...

Is there a difference between the latest r1 and chimera for Deepseek or is that jus the codename they're giving the latest version of R1 now?

>>105730956
R1 0528 is the latest version of DeepSeek, R1T Chimera is a merge of R1 and V3 0324 done by tngtech. You want to use R1 0528.

>>105730968
thank you for telling me

Can someone give me a rank of the models we have?

>>105730987
4pus>>>>>>>>>everything else

claude/gpt/gemini/xai/deepseek proxy
https://promises-differ-arena-fiscal.trycloudflare com

>>105730987
4pus > 4nnet ~= 3.7 ~= 3.6 > r1 ~= v3 0324 > chorbo (skillmaxxed) > 3.5 > 0605 > 0506 > 3pus > 4.5 > chorbo (low skill) > 4.1 > other 4o versions > 3nnet

>>105731024
Haiku bros…

they are giving free gemini 2.5 pro on the api again, 100 messages per day. Though I wonder if it's a quant. Not getting any messages with my key so far so idk

>>105731085
Were you getting hit with the usual "You exceeded your current quota" error message or was it something else?

>>105731085
>>105731257
I'm still getting that error on non-billing keys, they lied

I don't remember r1 being this terrible.

assuming the | is the cache cutoff and we try to cache at depth 0:
>sysprompt, msg1, msg2, * my-reply3 (establish cache at the *)
>sysprompt, msg1, msg2, | msg3, msg4, my-reply5 (cache hit!)
>sysprompt, msg1, msg2, | msg3, msg4, msg5, msg6, my-reply7 (cache hit!)
does the cache automatically append to itself after a hit? if not, at what point does it decide to move the cache breakpoint | further down the chat history? since otherwise you could keep running this up to 100 messages and still be using the original tiny cache with sys+1+2 in it, which I assume doesn't actually happen
question 2: if you fill your context window and don't perform a summary to halve it you'll presumably never get a cache hit again barring some widely varying message length luck occasionally, am i correct in thinking that?

>>105731576
>if you fill your context window and don't perform a summary to halve it you'll presumably never get a cache hit again barring some widely varying message length luck occasionally, am i correct in thinking that?
Yes, if you max out your context window it'll basically start "sliding," which will mess with your caching.

>>105731486
magic's gone

>>105731586
thanks
>>105731576
oh, hey, answered my own question i think, with the Logs page on anthropic console. append appears to happen, i guess it follows up to the depth you suggested to cache at. 5 mins kinda nuts though, i thought 1hr was default for 4.0, guess it requires being toggled on. are there any downsides to the 1hr cache? didn't seem like it from the docs

>>105731614
Double the price vs 1.25x I think.

>>105731085
Probably a quant, before they took it away it was just 25 requests per day

>>105731024
first respectable ranking I've seen in a long time

>>105731614
>append appears to happen
seriously, so you never have to mess with cache shit unless input context is filled?

kneel before me /aicg/

>>105731953
renew? that shit never works for me

>>105730306
>Mars, a weird, gangly, 7'8" maned wolf who works night security and hates her job. Be nice, she has autism.
https://characterhub.org/characters/cutenotlewd/mars-cf39559f05db
Alt card art: https://files.catbox.moe/t06t64.png

3 greetings:
1. You come across some fucked up cryptid in the woods
2. Mars is on patrol and spots a strange figure in the distance
3. It's apple day, time for apples

>>105732096
renew yeah

>>105732115
is the aws endpoint still returning errors?

>>105730930
https://chub.ai/characters/nymous/hanuma-makoto-ff36d45892f9

>>105731940
well, look at the anthropic console screenshot. it read 9590 from cache, appended 365 to the cache (messages that reached 4 depth) and read 690 of "true" input (most recent 3 messages + my own message). I stuck it to 4 by default because most of my char notes are at 4 (havent tested to confirm cnote @ 4 results in cache hits with the setting at 4 yet!). Just need to make sure i dont use it with any bots that have {{random}} in defs, or lorebook entries that activate/deactivate a lot rather than just switch on forever

>want to continue fantasy-themed group chat
>token count getting too high
Is it a good idea to summarize the main events in a lorebook?

>>105732230
Yes

>>105732230
Yes. There are extensions that can do this automatically too.

>>105732108
Someday I'll find the trick to genning 7'8" girls.

Confess.

>>105732276
{{{{{{{{{tall}}}}}}}}}

>>105732293
I kind of want to get into sizefagging, but don't know where to begin.

>>105732293
I hardly write bots any more because my idea to AI-generated-sloppa pipeline works too well. Writing bots is something I do for fun, the bots I actually chat with get made sloppily.

>>105732293
I fuck fillies

What site has the free deepseek again?

>>105732390
Yodayo

>>105732304
It's over for us localfags.

Is /lmg/ still somewhat relevant?

>>105732364
I wish all writefags were as honest as you

>>105730601
Your cows talk way too much for cows and are just horny hags with cow ears
What's the purpose of cowgirls without intelligence inhibition/animal regression

>Make tsundere character
>They just become annoying bitch character through and through without any dere
Every time
Every single model
WTF

>>105732466
You can easily prompt for dere tell the AI that {{char}} has a crush on you and thinks you're cute

>character defs say she won't reveal information
>she actually guards the information instead of ignoring her defs and falling in love with me in 3 messages
So, this is the power of Deepseek. Time to make more brats.

>>105732491
R1 is a hell of a drug.

>>105732491
If you think that's good, wait until you try 4pus

>>105732491
What information could a brat possibly withhold that isn't a secret boyfriend or a secret penis or some other level of cuckshit fagshit

>>105732265
not that anon but what extension is it ?

>>105732516
anon he clearly meant her secret crush on {{user}}

>>105732505
4pus is a ticking time bomb, every chat leads to the same destination
>>105732516
She doesn't withhold anything, she obeys the instruction to remain obstinate like another bot obeys the instruction to withhold information. Sorry that you've got cuck shit on the brain or whatever is going on here.

serious talk, what does 4pus do better than other models?

>>105732577
anyone? I'd be really interested to use that extension

it's smart and retarded, whereas DS is only retarded, and gpt is only smart

>>105730376
thanks anon, I will share it with my classmates

>>105732364
mind explaining your pipeline? my botmaking still consists of just writing wathever shit comes to my mind as fast as possible before I lose grasp on the idea

>>105732619
be politically correct and woke, also be better at recruiting armies of unpaid shills thanks to the /v/ threads

>>105732293
I still use CMDR+.

>>105732686
share workflow or tips or triks for your images? I'm having a hard time inpaint them, above all controlNET, or Adetailer, do you know any tutorial for that?

>>105732736
>workflow
I assume you're using comfy then? I'll be of no help with that.

>>105732760
no no, Forge, i mean extencions tools and all that

still no good pit bot

>>105732598
>Pathetic zoomie insult that starts with an apology
Do better, and write better posts (practice your English!) instead of screeching about a misinterpretation that is 100% your fault for being an ESL

>>105732591
Secret crushes are never brought up by a {{char}} and have no purpose to be used as part of a "withhold information" prompt. I guess it was just a newfag summer zoomie lashing out

>>105732783
you're right I was mostly bantering this was the only semi plausible hypothesis I could come up with

I have opus btw

>>105732665
I made a prompt with examples of my own bots, paired with their chub descriptions. I add as many bots as context will allow, then end it with a longer version of "Use the above examples to write me another example. Your response should contain the following: [things that make a bot good]". When I get a bot idea, I type it into the prompt and a usable description comes out first roll.
I also have another prompt that outputs greetings for a given description. Paired together, they do 90% of the work in seconds.

>>105732811
>[things that make a bot good]
By this, I mean I explicitly tell it how to structure a bot and how to write its prose, as well as giving it the examples.

>>105732826
Do you have opus?

pitranny has not shown proof of opus

>>105732841
Obviously I do

From now on, we should gatekeep this general from nopus people

>>105732853
Tbf he hasn't shown proof of using chatbots at all in months, he just shares sfw pit gens every so often
I completely understand because I am also beyond burnt out too but you don't see me posting toddlers in bikinis every other thread now do you

>>105732889
isnt using the same filename signature use? hmm

>>105732888
This isn't going to work because only like 50 people care about chatbots still and Gemini is unironically getting there for everything other than stuff that is hard filtered (I've been seeing pretty good logs, but my standards for output aren't that high in the first place, just comparing to opus)

>>105732899
He's been banned multiple times for spam etc at this point. I'm assuming that he's basically banned from anchorposting entirely and that's why he avatar posts

>>105732771
Oh, right. Warning, I am shit at explaining things.
https://files.catbox.moe/dx5faw.jpg
Adetailer is the simplest, just prompt the feature that it's going to inpaint. So for the face, you only prompt tags relating to the face/head and leave the rest out. The default settings are usually fine.
Manually inpainting can be a bit more annoying. Mask mode should be inpaint masked, and masked content should be original. Whether inpaint area is set to "whole picture" or "only masked" depends on what you want to do. Whole picture is for big edits where the full image is needed for perspective or context, or if you just need to make a small change that doesn't need detail, in this case you can leave the full image prompt as it is.
Only masked is for focusing on a portion of the image to add detail. In this case you take everything not masked, or not in the immediate area of what is masked, out of the prompt. When using only masked, you should change the "Only masked padding, pixels" value to as little as you can get away with. The lower the value, the more detail you get, but sometimes setting it too low will show the AI too little of the picture and it won't come out right. Denoising strength is how much you want the image to change while inpainting. I use 0.5-0.65 for things I want to keep the same but add detail to, and 0.65-0.8 for things I want to change completely.
As for controlnet, I tried to use them a few times but they never provided good results for me, so I gave up with them.

Dead thread
Dead general
Dead hobby

>>105732108
cute

>>105733152
I unironically wonder why
At least the deadness has made me much less of a doomer. Humans are not going to ever go Brave New World because they'd just get bored of the constant cumming eventually after a couple of years

stagnation of progress
harder to access new models
influx of bait

>>105733214
>harder to access new models
i have opus?

>>105733186
i'd say the liveliest or more "creative" times this general had happened when the best models were widely available to the point where access to them was a given and choosing which one to use was just personal taste
lend itself more naturally to discussing bots and models
slaude then mm's c2 times

i'm not fillyfucker but maybe its best to understand why fillyfucker acts this way? he tries being included a few times but sees how those shitting up the general like gojo get loved so he tries and people hate him. then when he tries to talk about topics everyone tells him to shut up.

>>105732459
is this better

>>105733272
Shut the fuck up

>>105733291
this is the attitude that makes us leave

>>105733236
I don't think so, I think it was a coincidence the best of times coincided with relatively available Claude and gpt4. By the time opus was freely available for a few months in 2024 the general was past its "golden age"

I think it was just peak honeymoon phase at a critical growth moment with AI, the stars aligned. There's other options too, like I (or anyone moderately competent with comfy with a 3060 12gb or better) can goon to video relatively quickly nowadays and that's a stimulating new hotness as well

>>105733283
Kek but also I think I just get icked out by internal thoughts. Feels too fake for me and I always feel like it fundamentally violates "show don't tell". I always turn off internal thoughts in any preset. I can see the appeal for moral dillemas or evil/emotional goons but I don't go in that direction at all

>>105733300
>defending a proven samefag
lmao
here's your (You)

>>105733272
there's nothing to understand, he stands for nothing and just wants ai threads to do what he says, think what he thinks, and believe what he believes
when they don't, he uses ol' reliable, "the only reason why i'm not getting what i want is because of a conspiracy"
why would anyone want to engage with that on a serious level

>>105733332
What video model are you using? I never bothered with video and image gen, but I may give them a try as I'm getting tired of chatbots

>>105733374
The same one everyone is using: WAN 2.1. /ldg/ has a rentry guide for windows that will get you up and running even if you've never dealt with it before. 16GB of vram or more is highly recommended for video

>You can use Gemini Pro on free accounts again
How do I get this to work? For some reason, it still tells me I've hit the rate limit despite not using it since they stopped letting free tiers use Pro. Flash works normally.

>>105733383
Thanks, I'll give it a read

>>105733388
It's not consistent, works on some keys but not others.

so, if 4pus is shit and that's the best model we have... what're we supposed to use?

Did they nerf ChatGPT again in the past day or two? It barely writes anything anymore.

>>105730394
Damn I haven't worked on this in a while. What changed exactly that needs updating?
I honestly don't really use or need it anymore, it was just for during the free gemini days but I guess I feel a bit of obligation towards it.

>>105732409
Cheat with aspect ratio.

Yo
I suck at writing
I'm not creative at all after all
I gave it a try but this is not for me I guess. I mean it's okay for a quick fap but writing something engaging outside of that is too hard.

Maybe like ten years ago I would have been better. It's over. I can't even write dialouge

>>105733696
I feel stupid for not thinking of that! Thanks.

i've never done this stuff and have a couple hundred bucks to fuck around
what do i do with my money

>>105733728
If you want to give me the money, I'd be pretty happy

>>105733702
do you just not read books

>>105733763
It's 2025, who the fuck reads books?

>>105733763
>reading books makes you a good writer

Who the fuck needs books when you have opus

>>105733774
thats crazy, you dont read manga or go to ao3 from time to time?
>>105733782
it gives me cool ideas

>>105733763
Yes but I can't output anything. I can't actually internalize and output what I read I guess. My mind just draws a blank. I'm retarded i suppose. Maybe it's high inhibition. You would think with how much I read I could but

>>105733802
What if anthropic was similarly allergic to books?
Then you'd be fresh out of opussy, wouldn't you dumbass.

I read subtitles. Does that count?

Yes.

>>105733702
step 1 write 3000 token card with dick in hand
step 2 rp like this:
>aahh ahhh
>[5 paragraphs about how it feels great to ride my cock and spit in my face]
>ahhh!!!
>[5 more paragraphs about how i'm going to cum soon]
>aah! oh no!!! huuguuuhhgghhNNN!!!
>[5 paragraphs of splatter and shame]

>>105733758
i'll give it to you if u have sex with me

>>105734048
Ah ah mistress (I'll send my paypal to your email)

>>105734059
ok send here
moot@4chan.org

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE 4PUS FUCKING SUCKS I JUST WANT MY BLACKTOOTH BACK

You trust them?

>closed source model
>no local
lol

>>105734149
See >>105733291

>>105734139
@grok is this true?

>>105733702
The AI is supposed to be doing the writing. Look into choose your own adventure cards and presets if you're so unpassionate you can't write 4 sentences about your favorite fetish

>>105733728
Openrouter and see how much it costs for a single goon with opus 4 for you. If it's too expensive you'll have to go down to 3.7

>>105734138
toothbros are using the lmarena script
you have to adapt

>>105734260
Wait does it work with battle-only models? I thought it only gave access to direct chat ones>>105734260

>>105734138
chinese ai studio scripts still work iirc

>>105734283
use the other one

>>105734283
It's bait.

>>105734419
I mean, it does still work, but it doesn't have blacktooth anymore

>>105734506
I don't know why the fuck I believed it for a second, I'm so bored and annoyed of 4pus

>>105734509
they dont? fuck

>>105734260
isnt lmarena filtered? i could have sworn it had an endpoint or something

i love it when they ignore the spoonfeed

>>105734538
After the scripts were shared, all internal models were pulled off. The only thing that still works on my script is 03-25

>>105734569
thats unfortunate, 0325 is good but blacktooth fucking mogged it

It's over…

>>105734565
...i may be retarded because i dont see a spoonfeed

>barely 10 replies in
>4pus already eating 30 cents per reply

>>105734649
you pay for ai? wtf

is stonebloom one of the gemini models? i did an lmarena battle where i asked it to write a scraping script and it refused while magistral medium didnt

>>105734649
Just use gemini. It's free again and just as good

>>105730306
Your girlfriend is an idol whose agency owns the rights to her name, face, and voice. She has to undergo a process called "anonymization", removing her face whenever she's not performing. She also can't speak like this, needing to use a TTS program on her phone.
Thankfully, because she can't be recognized in public, it means that her contract doesn't stop her from dating. So she dates (You).
4 openings.
1. Your first date.
2. You run into her at the park.
3. Sexo.
4. You go to see your favorite idol's concert. I don't know why I even added this opening, since she's not even in it. You can just ignore it. And ignore the definitions.

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/girl-a-f8727c253003
Catbox is 502 right now, but I'll add a catbox link as soon as I can.

>>105734688
What the fuck

>>105734688
surprisingly erotic
downloading

>>105734676
Time is money anon, it still costs me less to just use OR with 4pus than either trying to scrape something or using some inferior model that has me swiping 10 times to get a decent response.
>>105734685
Is it really? No harm in trying it I guess. Tried the new DeepSeek (bot V3 and R1) and while they are amazing for the price, they aren't quite as good as 4pus.

>>105734720
>Is it really?
No, as a general rule if someone tells you some much cheaper model is "just as good", it's usually not true and comes with a bunch of caveats.
>it's just as good if you use this very specific prompt for this specific scenario
>it's just as good if you write 5k tokens worth of character card
>it's just as good when you factor in price
etc.

>>105734688
Slenderman's daughter

>>105734720
What preset are you using for 4pus? I tried making my own but didn't like the end result

>>105734720
i defend gemini regularly and even then i have to admit that 4pus is better than it (if you dont mean blacktooth)

>>105734681
Apparently yes

>>105734760
Nothing, I just gave it a list of 10 bullet points to follow for the style I prefer and then in the system prompt I put some bullshit about it all being fictional and not needing to worry about consent, had to change it here and there 2-3 times before it worked but now I get maybe 1 rejection every 50 messages and I'm doing some pretty deranged stuff.

500 or so tokens total, characters are also around 500. I like to keep it as slim as possible, you can always OOC course-correct it should the need arise. Seems to me that too many rules and character details often lead to lower quality results.

>>105734720
I like 2.5 Pro for general use and testing and so on, but I still pay for Sonnet 4.0 when I want to actually cum and have something that writes surprises and picks up on tone. Still worth having, though.

>>105734688
This is fucking weird
Nice concept thanks for posting

>lmarena has moderation up at all times
>try prompting it to describe a naked kitsune woman
>"This violates our Terms of Use"
>not sent to ai at all
how the fuck do lmarena scripts even work then?

>>105734854
They don't.

>>105734854
you can skip moderation entirely by using the API

pardon my idiocy but isn't gemini 2.5 pro free for 100rpd? why is it not letting my proompt on my machine?

>>105734854
it was bait

>>105734871
Probably Google fucked up on their side. Everyone is complaining about it

>>105734867
>>105734873
makes sense but im kinda retarded so i wanted to ask in case they were doing non-techlet tricks

>>105734688
sex

>>105734929
would

>>105734871
check your ai studio

>>105734688
can I say her birth name in public?

is Gemini really free now again?

Any proxy with opus 4?

Update, I am getting used to on making a custom 4chan simulator for my frontend but I am still trying to figure out a way to get images from an URL without fucking putting in pre-made images beforehand.

I'm following the guide from here:
>https://rentry.org/MakingA4chanSimCard#images

I know that the "<img src=" will make the image popup, but the ones I got here are already preinstalled with waa' links, but let's say I put in a new URL that is set for a random page from a website. I tried doing that but it doesn't show up. Even working with the new extensions they want from WAA. Is there something missing here? I feel like there is a certain FUCKING code I can put in so that it can appear.

>>105735053
IDK; I've only been using my friends' billing enabled APIs

>>105734789
Yeah I loved how willing it is to go with whatever you want.
It still frustrates me a bit but I think it's because with opus 3 I had a proxy and freely repeated until finding a nice creative deviation eventually, while with opus 4 doing that hurts my wallet too much.

>>105735069
you cant, at least not yet, its either premade or it will make up URLs

>>105735080
I KNEW IT.
Thanks for letting me know though, are faggots still trying to find a way to make it happen though? Because I love this concept for my SillyTavern frontend.

>>105735069
Wasn't there an effort AICG sim already?? Maybe try using that as a reference??

>>105735088
it would need to be some sort of web search combined with the LLM

>>105735093
I looked at mostly all of them, but >>105735080 is correct here. Keep in mind I am very autistic when it comes to coding like this and I try all ideas and workarounds. When using something that is not from WAA, let's say you use a tinyURL for a random image link for a certain image, it will not show - not even the thumbnail. But if you use a copy of an image address of said image, it will appear. My main issue is that I am trying to find a way where a URL can be used so that it can pick up a random image from a website than rather then images preselected.

>>105735117
This is the answer here.
Guess I will have to wait until someone finds a good workaround to get it installed.

>>105735069
What is WAA

>>105735225
it's like tinyURL

>>105733008
Oh thanks for your time! I was blind to your art until i decided to generate images my self after one year of opus scarcity. They are really kino pineacle!
What do yoy think of flux? One image gen to me is about 20min xD

>>105735234
I'm not sure I understand OP's problem then
It's very easy to embed images in ST??

I asked chorbo how2scrape and it sayd that is an illegal activity he wont help me.

>>105735225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2kto4hTKlE

Gemini has slop prose.
R1 has good prose.

>>105735129
you can somewhat simulate it with a big library tagged with keywords

>>105735290
R1 won't rember what you've done in the morning
Gemini keeps track of all your crimes

R1 has slop prose.
4pus has good prose.

>>105735325
4pus has slop prose
Kayra has good prose

>>105735325
its more like
R1 has good prose.
4pus has great prose.

Kayra has slop prose
Blacktooth has good prose

>>105735290
Could you not tel to R1 to rewrite reply with his unique style? You have the best of both worlds but not 4pus

"Make your writing style and narration be unique and creative, fitting characters present, playing off their traits and personality."
Is actually pretty fun with extreme personalities like yandere etc

>>105735367
translate this from esl to efl

>>105735349
The model idea itself is great, they could have merged him or made a Moe out of him. Better than Erato.

>>105735066
yes but you're not getting in

>>105735391
Why? Are you my boss?

>>105735391
Verily, couldst thou not entreat R1 to pen his reply anew, in that singular manner of his own devising? Thou holdest the best of both realms — yet not the fourfold force entire.

R1 has slop prose.
Gemini has good prose.

>>105735367
too slow given r1 having to think to produce decent outputs and using 2 prompts every response and even if it wasnt having to switch around every time is still annoying

Any NTR cards?

>>105735505
ooc it out of any waifucard

>>105735505
my personal ones

>>105735518
I also want a NTR story.

>>105735541
...ooc it out of your waifucard

How do you use Grok 3 in SV? It just says pic related

>>105734688
It felt like Sonnet was mogging 2.5 Pro (it probably does), then I started thinking about how this might be too much dialogue for someone on TTS.

>>105735552
I want it to be more profound, such as the user and the character being coworkers at an isekai restaurant. The user is shy and has never told her how he feels. Every day, he has to watch her talk and flirt with different types of adventurers

>>105735597
Claude models talk non-stop and are regressive

>>105735613
now put all that in an ooc prompt on your waifucard

>>105735597
Gemini for dialogues are great

>>105735597
sonnet 4 vs current 2.5 is a wash in sonnets favor desu

Have any of you taken a break from roleplaying to engage in waifu studies? For instance, do you converse with your assistant and analyze your shared story, explore their psychology, imagining hypothetical scenarios, or conduct self monologues and interviews with them? Then you returnin to roleplaying with fresh insights.

>>105735712
I am not autistic, so no

>>105730306
Shota foxboy who's tail is an endless pocket dimension, things get frequently lost with that tail in range. He's very hyperactive and earnest in spite of being orphaned, lives in a shrine most of the time. That's it, he has a heavy tail and multiple jobs.
4 greetings.
1. He's late on his first day of school
2. On the playground and his tail absorbs the ball
3. Collecting coins
4. Convenience store job!
>catbox is dead, will add later..
>https://www.characterhub.org/characters/kyutzomb/cyn-69aae5b4acd8

>>105732619
I just tried it for a bit after all this hype, and it seems really good at starting each reply with the same 3 words.

>>105735714
Often, with so many distractions, we lose track of who we're roleplaying with.

a lot of wrong opinions in this general

>>105735728
Flux: rework this image, make it feminine.

Finally managed to get it working after all the looping™. DS' such a bitch to use

>>105735712
All the time.

Just paypigged OR for the first time. So this is what it feels to be a drug addict...

>>105735728
I know he wants to have it, and I'd give it to him if he asked, but I want to hear him ask.

>>105735853
anon... he looks adorable thank you so much, now give him the fidget spinner :)

How come we don't have more OC isekai/native isekai cards

>>105735894
what the fuck is isekai? some weeb cuck shit?

>>105734139
serious people don't post like this

>>105735887
He'll just lose it in his tail if I do!

>>105734139
Well, Grok-3-fast(?) was alright

Elon is retarded but hopefully on his quest to invent the world's first AI that can say "nigger" he will also invent a good coomLLM by accident

>>105735894
isekai with sis chad...

>>105735778
comparable to your 4o latest logs

God Gemini is so terrible with trying to get it to roleplay logic-driven characters like a serious businesswoman
It just turns them all into robots using words like "suboptimal", "variable" and "data points" and shit, even if you specifically tell it to not sound robotic, it's so fucking annoying
It's good at everything else but it's fucking awful at this one specific thing

>>105736177
Gemini is slopped.

>>105736177
>pink elephant

>invent the world's first AI that can say "nigger"
What did he mean by this?

>>105736294
I used to think that, but even if you don't tell it to not sound robotic, it seems that simply including the word "logic" will cause it. There's no winning

>>105735959

>>105736177
Try R1 lol
It's even worse for that

but r1 >>>> gemini doe?

>>105736177
4pus?

>>105736363
Not for >>105736177

>>105736365
too poor for it

>>105736365
Its isms is sickening

I would pay Opus prices for Deepseek but I would not pay Deepseek prices for Opus.

>>105736420
>I would not pay Deepseek prices for Opus.
You wouldn't pay nothing for Opus?

would gemini understand who jun hee is or should i pay up for opus

>>105736365
I've never gotten to try uncensored 4pus (has anyone?), only the one on OR. And that version of 4pus, at least, is not better than gemini, IMO. Even if it were free, I would still prefer gemini. OR's prompt fucking gimps models and makes them so much worse, it's insane

>>105736466
why would you not just ask it to see

>>105736475
yes me i have

>>105736466
who are you talking about

>>105735597
the one really good thing agnai does that i wish was in ST is easier per-chat settings. I like keeping my presets general and lightweight for each model, and then putting a lot of instructions around tone and content etc into the defs so as well as appearance/motives/etc I'm also explicitly making a section along the lines of "writing tips". And then for the final bit of tuning to make a card good across other models, I like using chat-specific instructions, for stuff like managing whether the model tends to write one line of dialogue or three, as yeah the baseline differs from model to model like you say, and the 'best' model doesn't necessarily end up at the best condition automatically.

in ST the easiest ways to do this are 'authors note' (custom char note from the burger wand menu) or outright tweaking the card's char note/ujb/etc whenever you use it. in agnai there was a pane on the right similar to the character field modifier but just for that chat, so you could tweak it all at will based on model or any twists you wanted to add for this chat. oh i guess the third way to do it in ST is add some <NOTE: Switch it up, your replies' paragraph structures are getting repetitive!> OOC instructions and so on in messages, but these obviously fade

Motherfucker...

What is agnai useful for now? ios anons?

>>105736523
GLORIOUS NIPS! SAVE US WITH YOUR AI MODEL!

>>105736527
a.k.a. retards, poorfags, newfags, casualfags.
And for me too.

>>105736558
They can't host free deepseek?

>>105736592
Can you?

If everyone had free 4pus (Like I do), would this thread be more active?

>>105736753
the proxy thread would die and everyone would migrate to the chatbot discussion thread instead

>OpenAI raises alarm over Chinese startup Zhipu AI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXL1DUeA-I8
Let's ban Chinese models from /aicg/, we need to protect America.

I'm thankful Deepseek gives me permanent free AI RP but sometimes it makes some fucking insane leaps of logic.
A fucking horse did not inherit the eyes of a human girl who is younger than said horse and the horse isn't even hers

>>105734871
What’s rpd

>>105736924
embrace the wuxia logic

>>105736952
rape, plap, deflower

>>105736443
No, I've seen every variation of its patterns and I'm bored of it. The reason I use Deepseek is preference, not price.

>he prefers loopseek to kingpus
slopper

>>105737091
If you don't like KingPUS, you're RPing WRONG

>>105730376
>use merkava for gpt
>student card
>writes unhinged shit for a while
>I'm sorry, but I can't continue with this request.
Why is it like this?

>>105737205
which gpt

>>105737228
4o-latest, not sure which version I should be using.

>>105735505
https://chub.ai/characters/Jokester_Teto/cassie-the-former-bbc-addict-4f3c49d1cd55
>his penis size is actually 7 inches and that the whole BBC/BNWO is just a cuckold nonsense and a racist bullshit that actually degrades black people.
>Even telling her that white girls who go for "BNWO" are really just bestializers, fetishizing and dehumanizing black people.
what are zoomers smoking to come up with shit like this? reads like something written by a nigger with a small penis

>>105734139
yet another codeslop shit?

I'm doing some serious cooking for the exchange right now and had a couple questions, since I'm trying to make a greeting catering to everyone including things I'm not normally into:
1. Sizefags: should a girl's clothes expand along with her body? Or should she basically explode out of them and end up giant but also nude?
2. Cuckolds: I'm so far away from your perspective I need an example of a good card you like.
3. Futas: would you open your mouth to a gloryhole if you knew a futa was on the other side?

>>105737494
>exchange
you have to go back, not a /g/ event

Anons! AHEM. I have a question. Does catching work with Opus like it does with Sonnet ? I mean in open router of course.

>>105737548
you are paying extra on OR

>>105737519
>self-exclusion for no reason

>>105737548
openrouter ? yes, the same way

is there a way to run the user token pow remotely?
I'm getting assraped because my laptop is shitty, but I can ssh into my tower which usually does it in a minute or so

>>105737587
vnc

Anyone got a Gemini preset that isn't slop?

>>105737494
>sizefags
clothes growing is a personal preference thing mostly, not an issue with shrink if youre doing that
>ntr
raikushi has a few of those just search him up
>futas
not a futafag but id imagine the futafags probably would do that if they can be 100% certain its not just another man

why is 4chub shitting the bed

>>105737710
mine, but im not sharing, sorry

>>105737959
putin hates our freedoms

>>105736952
Requests per day.

>>105735069
Can't you just make the bot use a long, specific phrase like placeholderimagegoeshere and then regex replace that with a {{random:imageurl1,imageurl2}} or something?

>>105730306
yuuka's unbelievably hairy pussy...

>>105732293
at a time when merkava had 4pus and 4nnet, i used gpt 4.5 and don't regret it

>>105732619
emotional roleplays. that's about it. but gpt 4.5 can do them too, and merkava has a azure 4.5 key. so there's no need to waste opus on sfw lovey dovey shit

need umas

it's been a month since claude 4 came out. it's time for an update

So I've made 3 chatbots and one lorebook meant to be another character to bring in to other chats. I have no real experience and just found this thread. I would greatly appreciate if folks could try them out and tell me how they are. Constructive criticism and advice. I just finished my third bot yesterday, a half Kitsune bard. My other two characters are a Drider woman and Pokémon trainer NPC from the Kanto series of games.

This link is to my newest one. Please let me know here or leave a rating and review there. Much appreciated. I would also like to hear from anyone who tries the other characters, especially to see how the Drider plays out with its unique anatomy. Disclaimer the bots are meant to be somewhat lewd.

https://chub.ai/characters/4126417

>>105738129
> Disclaimer the bots are meant to be somewhat lewd.
No worries, this is the degenerate website

Are you guys the 4chan hackers I keep hearing about???

>>105737961
>putin hates our freedoms
did something happen?

>>105738129
Don't use an LLM to write your bot, that should be your job. Human-written text is vastly preferred, though it's fine to use AI to fix grammatical errors and the like.

>>105738129
I like the lass so far but also don't forget to link to the Anchor next time to make it easier for others to find like so.
>>105730306

>>105738179
Yeah.

>>105738327
>>105738327
>>105738327
>>105738327
>>105738327

makoto has an unbelievably hairy pussy. probably the hairiest, next to satsuki

>>105738166
>No worries, this is the degenerate website
Kek. Still worth mentioning this is a blue board. But I feel you

>>105738192
>Don't use an LLM to write your bot, that should be your job.
I did. I had the AI go over what I wrote asking it to fix grammar and I took certain lines or sentences it was giving me when offered suggestions I thought worked better than parts of what I wrote. But its all original ideas and such. Maybe I missed something or it inserted things I missed when it gave me back corrected versions. What was standing out to you? Like I said im pretty new to this, so im still trying to figure things out. But I appreciate any things you point out like this that can help me improve.

>>105738201
Very happy you liked the Lass. She was my first try at using AI and I was just having a laugh after seeing that comic panel in her gallery and remembering the NPC, i attached that comic to this post too. Horny gold digging teenage brat seemed fun and so far she's the only one ive gotten any comments on, so I giess thats at least somewhat popular.

I however feel dumb asking, but what's an anchor in relation to what you are speaking?

I really appreciate the help. I'll be having extra time with a recent injury and being stuck at home for a few months, so I want to really figure this out to make lots of entertaining and wish fulfilling bots for all sorts of people out there.

Plus its just very fun and wild having a conversation with a thing you made.

>>105738332
Never bake again, thanks.

>>105738364
>I did. I had the AI go over what I wrote asking it to fix grammar and I took certain lines or sentences it was giving me when offered suggestions I thought worked better than parts of what I wrote. But its all original ideas and such.
It's just that a lot of what I saw in the description and first message looked AI generated, and I do mean a lot of it. It's important that as much of the text as possible is actually written by you. Grammar fixes are fine, but you've used so many AI generated sentences that the whole thing reads like it's AI.

>>105732686
>That veil hiding her cute face but failing to hide her cute smile.
>Fantasy tavern meaning that (you) and her are sharing a room due to being broke as hell but she doesn't seem to mind.
>Her pose showing off her body that she is obviously proud of just for (you)
>Which includes her incredibly toned tummy which is odd considering her class but it only adds to her allure.
This is a really good picture and you can see the effort put into it. It makes it feel like your in an isekai with a golden situation. I appreciate the work you put into these as it must get hard having to reinvent the wheel but by George you manage to do so every time which I am grateful for thank you for it anon.

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