/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread - /g/ (#105735633) [Archived: 622 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/28/2025, 7:38:25 PM No.105735633
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 7:40:21 PM No.105735651
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Is Linuces the plural of Linux?
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 7:43:11 PM No.105735676
so just installed arch using hyprland and already have my monitors setup thanks to nwg-displays spitting out the right config into the term
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 7:43:40 PM No.105735678
yo sci linux is the rising sun linux of urp
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:05:52 PM No.105735882
Yes I know NTFS used to suck on Linux, but does it STILL suck in 2025? Is there actual hard evidence beyond "it didn't work for me in 2012"?
Replies: >>105735926 >>105735992 >>105736095
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:10:22 PM No.105735926
>>105735882
the new ntfs3 driver is much better yes
but samba will always be the sanest way to handle files on a windows box
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:16:57 PM No.105735992
>>105735882
As if anyone other than Linux newcomers would know. I haven't used NTFS in a decade.
Replies: >>105736095
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:18:36 PM No.105736018
is editing fstab still the best way to add additional disks to linux?
Replies: >>105736133 >>105737440 >>105740846
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:27:30 PM No.105736095
>>105735882
Yes, the ntfs3 driver just works.
>>105735992
Linux newcomers are the only ones who know ANYTHING about Linux because they are researching the latest information, whereas longtime Linux users can only parrot what was true in year I installed Linux AD. A few threads ago somebody asked about using his existing SSD with games on Linux, and not a single person told him to just fucking use it; Linux discussions are perpetually infected with stupid, irrelevant, and outdated information because despite posturing as leet hackerman power users who are in full control of their systems, these faggots haven't actually done any Linux research in over 10 years. We are living in a golden era where Linux seriously just fucking works, yet the Linux community acts like it doesn't and gives advice that actively prevents it from just working.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:31:13 PM No.105736131
>tfw steam only downloads at 196 MB/s on linux but it downloads at maybe 56 MB/s on windows
both are SHIT but one is significantly less SHIT
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:31:17 PM No.105736133
>>105736018
is there a different one?
Replies: >>105736158
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:32:59 PM No.105736158
>>105736133
thats what im asking if not ill edit fstab i am just wondering if there might be a better way
Replies: >>105736181 >>105749607
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:33:24 PM No.105736164
>>105736131
Meanwhile me, who only has a ~10MB/s line:
interesting
Replies: >>105736174
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:34:39 PM No.105736174
>>105736164
i mean honestly im just incredibly impatient
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:35:03 PM No.105736181
>>105736158
well, technically, you could write a script that you run at startup that does the mounting for you, but just edit fstab.
Replies: >>105736200 >>105749607
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:35:20 PM No.105736188
>>105736131
>196 MB/s is considered slow
Fuck me dead cunt you'd be in tears if you lived in Australia. I shat myself when I saw 30 MB/s for the first time last year.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:36:54 PM No.105736199
>>105736131
>196 MB/s
what kind of connection is that?
Replies: >>105736212
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:36:54 PM No.105736200
>>105736181
well i think fstab is the best cause i want to use them with steam and steam hates starting with drives missing
Replies: >>105736211
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:37:54 PM No.105736211
>>105736200
there is nothing wrong with fstab
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:37:55 PM No.105736212
>>105736199
2 gig i pay 160 month for
Replies: >>105736234
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:40:34 PM No.105736234
>>105736212
Well, I wanted to say that thing doesn't even exist in my counrty but apparently, it does.
Not like I could use it though.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:41:43 PM No.105736244
>>105736095
Didn't some guy lose almost his entire game library on an NTFS drive a few days ago?
>not a single person told him to just fucking use it
I remember that one. A few anons definitely said "just try it, if it doesn't work reformat it".
Replies: >>105736269
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:44:21 PM No.105736269
>>105736244
Nope, that guy didn't use steam to begin with.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:58:15 PM No.105736391
>>105736095
>We are living in a golden era where Linux seriously just fucking works
this, so much this, preach
Replies: >>105736460
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:05:30 PM No.105736460
>>105736391
Having daily run both windows and linux for 5 years now, whatever buggy shit you encounter on Linux, has it's equivalents on windows.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:07:00 PM No.105736470
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Have a usb keypad that is acting up: the numbers and . are not repeating while the rest of keys (=/*-+ enter) work. not a hardware issue since when numlock is off the functions (pgup, pgdn, etc) repeat correctly, anyone knows what's up?
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:27:52 PM No.105736655
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>>105728378
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:29:57 PM No.105736668
Is it actually worth watching YouTubers for linux or should you just use internet forums

I feel some ppl like someordinarygamers just stretch out videos far longer than they need to be when i could just look that shit up online yknw
Replies: >>105737212 >>105741015
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:39:15 PM No.105736754
I installed the new LTS Kubuntu on my laptop as a test run for doing the new install on my desktop. I did the minimal install and when I try to install chrome deb file, it says it cannot satisfy the dependencies. Is this just a minimal install problem that I'l run into with other things? I like the less bloat but if it's going to be a bother for everything I might just use the regular.
Replies: >>105736787 >>105749634
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:42:16 PM No.105736787
>>105736754
Lubuntu's bootloader was completely broken on my laptop so I assume Canonical just can't code.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:47:04 PM No.105736822
If I've had no issues with Manjaro yet, why should I dislike systemd?
Replies: >>105740846
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:59:02 PM No.105736941
Is CachyOS good? Are the devs faggots?
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:59:58 PM No.105736951
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Who is this guy and why is him inquiring about a use case a meme on /g/? Is he a Wayland dev or something?
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:07:23 PM No.105737027
Any good guides on setting a file transfer between virtual machines? RN i was able to get an easy paste in but I can't get files out
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:25:47 PM No.105737212
>>105736668
No. It's a slow changing field, especially at the entry level, and they end up talking about really inadvisable shit just to have something to talk about.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:28:43 PM No.105737236
So my game performance seems fine, but should I install Gamemode?
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:41:44 PM No.105737380
>>105736951
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Emmanuele_Bassi
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:43:14 PM No.105737391
i've successfully and finally upgraded from a potato to a new, modern laptop... and now all i want to do is go back to the potato. i installed a KDE for the first time and i fucking hate it. all i want and need is a tiling WM connected to some kind of scripting language. what do? it feels like a waste to have 48GB of RAM and to be running a configuration which takes up 2GB max (although i guess firefag bloat is now back in season). what can i do to make e.g. GNOME keyboard-first? how can i make it friendly to simple scripting? is there anything i can layer on top of this turd to make it less shitty or do i just need to go back to awesomeWM?
Replies: >>105737423
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:44:21 PM No.105737404
so bcachefs will be gone? just when i felt like trying it
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:46:25 PM No.105737423
>>105737391
>what can i do to make e.g. GNOME keyboard-first?
>GNOME
Probably nothing. They have some addons but they tend to break after each major update of GNOME.
GNOME is very opinionated on how the UI should look and behave and they don't want much customization.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:47:37 PM No.105737440
>>105736018
Editing fstab is the only method that I've ever used.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:48:54 PM No.105737452
>>105737404
What's the drama with Bcachefs this time?
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:50:34 PM No.105737467
>>105737452
dev was again pushing some untested feature updates despite a feature freeze
Replies: >>105739484
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 10:50:50 PM No.105737470
>>105737452
the one and only dev being a clueless retard and getting kicked out of the kernel for it (many such cases)
Replies: >>105739484
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:09:25 PM No.105737574
If it's gone how do I add it back in now? Is Kent going to make his own project with it and then everyone needs to compile a module for it?
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:32:46 PM No.105737655
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Working with virtual python environments in Arch Linux.
Getting older pythons from AUR (e.g. aur.archlinux.org/packages/python310), installing them and then:
python3.10 -m venv venv
source venv/bin/activate
pip install -r requirements.txt
works fine as expected. But when I try to do same shit with uv:
uv venv --python 3.12.11
source .venv/bin/activate
pip install -r requirements.txt
I get "error: externally-managed-environment" as if the venv isn't working. What am I missing here?
Replies: >>105737711 >>105746809
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 11:48:40 PM No.105737711
>>105737655
Apparently you need to add uv before pip?
Whatever it seems to be working now, I hope I am not celebrating early.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:06:46 AM No.105737781
Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 Specs TechPowerUp CPU Database
Noob here, can someone why newer Ubuntu isn't working on some older hardware for me any more? Obviously something changed in new versions, but what?

>a Macbook from 2010, picrel CPU
>22.04 worked perfectly on it
>but 24.04 has problems
>firstly, installation problems
>even fully updated, some drop down menus are glitchy, don't display properly
>both on Wayland and Xorg
>also trouble initially logging in after first install when set user to auto login, screen blank with a cursor, had ot bring up a terminal and edit a config file to disable Wayland by default, then restart, only then could I actually start to use my freshly installed OS
>wanted to check if it's a quirk specifically with 24.04 or it's something permanent going forward
>try 24.10
>installer doesn't even work properly, looks like it's loading, but then gets stuck on a screen with an unmoveable mouse cursor and never completes loading
>try 25.04
>doesn't even look like it start to successfully load, just get stuck straight away on a screen with an unresponsive keyboard cursor in top left
>USB flash drive indicator light keeps flashing as if it's working, but nothing ever happens
>after 30 mins, after 1 hour
>tried 3 different USB installer creations
>1x default rufus, 1x rufus after changing a setting regarding older BIOSes, and 1x default etcher
>same problem on all
>like I said the 22.04 installer and end product still works perfectly fine on it
>and the 25.04 installer works perfectly well on a different, modern computer

So I guess it's lights out for this old Macbook, just wanted to keep it on the side to have a Linux system in case I ever needed one at quick notice. I'll put 22.04 LTS back on it, maybe even activate Ubuntu Pro so it lasts until 2032, will probably get rid of it by then so that's long enough. Tbh I might even chuck it away now.
But still, Im just curious intellectually as to what happened to why it gradually stopped working on this hardware. Buffed it up to 8GB RAM so thats not it.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:15:40 AM No.105737830
i ended up going with hyprland for my new build. i have a brand new laptop with 48GiB RAM. i'm going to abuse all the bits and bobs and whizzbangs and flashing lights i can because KDEs are cancer and i need to find a way to avoid feeling buyer's remorse 2bqh
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:16:41 AM No.105737836
>>105737781
Try using different distros to see if if they'll install?
If newer Ubuntu versions don't work my first instinct would see if the current stable Debian release works since Ubuntu is built on top of Debian.
A part of me thinks GNOME could be the problem but it should still be able to install if that's the case.
Replies: >>105738055
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:32:38 AM No.105737940
>>105737781
Does it have nvidia graphics by any chance?
Replies: >>105738055
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:48:36 AM No.105738055
>>105737836
I just tried 25.04 one last time.
Where the installer went blank with static keyboard cursor but USB still flashing, I hit Ctrl+Alt+F4.
The installer finally loaded!
It definitely seems more laggy then 24.04 and certainly 22.04, so maybe father time has caught up with the hardware. But I'm still installing it just to test. I'll report back when it's finished. If it stays laggy even with all updates, then yeah I'll go back to 22.04.

>>105737940
From Apple's spec page
>2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor with 3MB on-chip shared L2 cache (which I have discovered is the P8600)
>NVIDIA GeForce 320M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:05:45 AM No.105738195
>>105738055
>NVIDIA GeForce 320M
Yeah, that's not officially supported anymore. There's a ppa for legacy drivers but I'm not sure if they'll work for 25.04
https://launchpad.net/~kelebek333/+archive/ubuntu/nvidia-legacy
Replies: >>105739437
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:06:16 AM No.105739086
what is a really good panel for hyprland? perfebly something with a working configuration guide somewhere
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:32:18 AM No.105739305
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Is there a way to search stuff in dolphin including content in hidden folders/pathways or should I just get something else for searching?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:49:47 AM No.105739437
>>105738195
I'm back.
So I installed 25.04 and ran all updates, even rebooted for good measure.
Yeah it's having the same graphical glitches I had in 24.04 LTS (which is what drove me to test these later point releases)
E.g. the drop down menu in System Monitor, hell even the wallpaper selection in Settings, I can't see all the wallpaper thumbnails, they keep glitching and flashing in and out of view
Additional Drivers isn't displaying anything
Also by default the OS wouldn't even be usable on boot, I had to open that cheeky terminal and edit a conf file to disable Wayland
So apparently Wayland just doesn't even work at all on this machine any more, as a blanket policy
I'm a n00b, winbabby, but isn't Xorg being completely phased out of GNOME and/or Ubuntu? I guess this machine won't work at all on Ubuntu/GNOME in the future then.
How does this apply to related distros? Mint, Debian? Or DEs? Is anyone keeping Xorg around long term?
For now, if I want to stick with Ubuntu (it is comfy desu) I guess it's back to 22.04 LTS, and I will enable Ubuntu Pro to at least be able to stick it out to 2032 (in theory, most likely I'll end up dumping this thing well before)

>>NVIDIA GeForce 320M
>Yeah, that's not officially supported anymore. There's a ppa for legacy drivers but I'm not sure if they'll work for 25.04
>https://launchpad.net/~kelebek333/+archive/ubuntu/nvidia-legacy
So what does this mean? Like, who dropped support for this ancient GPU? Was it Ubuntu? GNOME? Debian? The entire Linux kernel? Are there any distros where it will continue to work on with their latest versions?

As for adding this PPA, how safe is that? Like, when doing something like this, how do you judge whether adding it to your system is safe or not?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:54:50 AM No.105739484
>>105737470
>>105737452
>>105737467
too bad he is maximum autism, it seemed like btrfs without trash
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:13:29 AM No.105739608
>>105739437
>Like, who dropped support for this ancient GPU?
>The entire Linux kernel?
Depends, sometimes newer kernels don't bother with compatibility with older hardware/drivers, other times the distros themselves will drop support.

>Are there any distros where it will continue to work on with their latest versions?
I would bet that Arch, either in the official repositories, or the AUR has, drivers for old nVidia hardware that still getting updated. But it might not be worth the effort installing Arch on an old MacOS system and looking for the drivers.
I found this page that links to a couple tutorials that have the same problems as you're having https://daanberg.net/en/kennisbank/using-nvidia-geforce-320m-outside-macos/
It's just installing the old NVIDIA drivers onto an Ubuntu system

But staying on 22.04 pro should do just fine.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:51:46 AM No.105739882
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What fucking black magic do I need to do to get GPU accel working in any chromium-based browser on AMD? This shit just worked on Nvidia.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:52:49 AM No.105739892
>>105739882
Gayland BTW
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:56:46 AM No.105739924
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>>105735633 (OP)
How do you get Dualsense Haptic Feedback to work on Ubuntu 24.04.2 over Bluetooth? It works perfectly over USB-C when I'm playing Stellar Blade, but for some reason, the controller is able to connect but Steam isn't able to detect it
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:23:58 AM No.105740459
What's the best distribution to use Nvidia? Debian? Arch? AlmaLinux? I'd like to avoid niche "friendly" downstreams like MX Linux or Pop Os! whatever whenever possible cause from my experience those cause more issues than they solves for me.
Replies: >>105740473 >>105740522 >>105740846
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:26:38 AM No.105740473
>>105740459
Arch makes it very easy to install/setup Nvidia drivers. There's even a guide someone on github wrote that really sets it out properly.
https://github.com/korvahannu/arch-nvidia-drivers-installation-guide
Replies: >>105740498 >>105741541
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:26:40 AM No.105740474
>>105739437
That's life if you use too ancient hardware with propietary drivers on Linux. You better slowly learn to use BTRFS snapshots or Timeshift and make amends with needing some of these 3rd party patches and then undo the damage if something goes wrong.
Replies: >>105740587
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:31:32 AM No.105740498
>>105740473
It's using the LTS kernel with Nvidia drivers a meme? I don't mind having Arch on my old fuck-around laptop, but i need a tad more of reliability at 8AM with this one.
Replies: >>105740507 >>105740792
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:33:23 AM No.105740507
>>105740498
Works fine
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:37:14 AM No.105740522
>>105740459
Debian is retard-proof for Nvidia, but only if you stick to Stable. That means older mesa.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:52:20 AM No.105740587
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>>105739608
>>105740474
Thanks lads, I've gone back to 22.04 LTS. Feels so snappy and responsive. What a relief. To get 7 more years of internet use out of this thing is fine. I got it for free anyway. Maybe even some years after that as an offline machine. Can use it to emulate very un-intensive Windows games? Like eroge? Heh...

One interesting thing is actually I looked it up and 22.04 LTS also doesn't have the official Nvidia drivers. It too is using Nouveau, just like 24.04 LTS and 25.04. And yet it's not laggy at all vs them, and also no graphical glitches in menus etc. Also no problem at all with Wayland. So maybe something else was at play?
Replies: >>105740670 >>105740744
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:11:29 AM No.105740670
>>105740587
Maybe there was a regression for those old cards in 23.04 and up. However not many people have old hardware to test these drivers to begin with. A company with money on the line wouldn't bother, a hobbyist may but only if it's mostly not overcomplicated maintaince work, which is thankfully what Ubuntu's stable release model provides. Maybe consider practice in a VM and install a newer Ubuntu version from scratch with this someday:
https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mini-iso/noble/daily-live/current/
This should be a fairly minimal CLI only environemnt to get hands on how to set it up from scratch.
Replies: >>105740707
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:18:55 AM No.105740707
>>105740670
Wait, wasn't Ubuntu Mini ISO discontinued with 18.04? Is this legit?
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:24:58 AM No.105740744
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>>105740587
>Can use it to emulate very un-intensive Windows games
I managed to run a bunch of stuff with nouveau on older hardware (6150 SE) so it should work
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:38:05 AM No.105740792
Trying to figure out how to generally automate ZRAM using systemd. Looks like every distro has their own way of accomplishing it, right?

>>105740498
What's a "LTS kernel"? 6.12 branch?
Replies: >>105740954
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:50:41 AM No.105740846
>>105740459
Poopos isn't downstream though, it uses Ubuntu's repositories directly.
>>105736822
Are you asking why should you move from one Arch fork (Manjaro) to a non-systemd Arch fork?
>why should I dislike systemd?
The only reason to hate systemd are personal preferences.
>>105736018
With systemd it involves a generator so in theory systemd mount units are better. I achtually had to write one for a device that contains a key file, got to have it mounted before cryptsetup starts.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:15:36 AM No.105740954
>>105740792
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/linux-lts/
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:27:35 AM No.105741015
>>105736668
Some are ok, โ€˜bread on Linuxโ€™ is straight to the point.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:30:20 AM No.105741034
Hey Wayland users! Just checking in to see how you guys are enjoying global hotkeys!
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:43:05 AM No.105741092
Is there a Linux equivalent to Windows 7+ mspaint? KolourPaint is fine and dandy but it's based on classic paint.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:46:12 AM No.105741103
latest fontconfig defaults to 70-no-bitmaps-except-emoji.conf for some retarded reason breaking all bitmap fonts in the process
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:05:44 AM No.105741205
>dolphin starts freezing immediately upon opening
>fast forward reinstall nvidia drivers and rm -rf a bunch of dolphin related shit and cache
haven't opened dolphin since then, I don't want to find out if i have to reinstall to fix this shit.
Replies: >>105741641
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:15:33 AM No.105741272
>>105736095
one major reason why you shouldn't keep ntfs permanently in linux is that linux doesn't have an fsck for ntfs. if for any reason the filesystem is uncleanly unmounted (freeze/reboot, crash, power cut, accidental removal, etc), the filesystem can't be mounted read-write again until you run chkdsk in windows
and no, "ntfsfix -d" is not an fsck or a replacement to chkdsk
ntfs access is also slower than native filesystems, unless you use ntfs3, but that's still fairly new and i've heard it's not something you should fully trust
ntfs support in linux has always been just enough for recovery tasks and to make it easier to move to a native filesystem
Replies: >>105741467
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:16:48 AM No.105741286
>>105736095
only new users have ntfs volumes they want to use, old users who've learned got rid of theirs
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:25:57 AM No.105741332
>>105739437
>who dropped support for this ancient GPU?
nvidia did, it's a proprietary driver

i'm posting from a thinkpad with a Core2Duo P8400 with integrated/onboard graphics and it works just fine. i'm using Arch however. i don't use wayland myself but i've played with it on this machine and it does work
i have heard of issues with wayland + nvidia, but i would imagine that'd only apply to the proprietary drivers, not nouveau. are you sure there isn't something physically wrong with the machine?
Replies: >>105741596
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:34:34 AM No.105741376
Halfway through Lubuntu installed it failed and now Usb stick isn't being recognized. At least windows does it but says volume is empty. MBR particion etc
Replies: >>105741451 >>105746754
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:45:44 AM No.105741451
>>105741376
Same thing happened to me. Lubuntu is complete dog shit, from its bootloader to its installer and finally to using it. What are your specs, by the way? I initially installed Lubuntu on my laptop under the impression I needed a lightweight distro, only to find I had comical amounts of headroom.
Replies: >>105741619 >>105746754
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:48:14 AM No.105741467
>>105741272
>the filesystem can't be mounted read-write again until you run chkdsk in windows
Doesn't ntfs3g alleviate this?
Replies: >>105741489
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:52:38 AM No.105741489
>>105741467
no
Replies: >>105741604
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:00:20 AM No.105741541
>>105740473
>using random outdated tutorials you found on the internet
That's how you break Arch
Replies: >>105741785 >>105744440
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:08:06 AM No.105741596
>>105741332
i'm back on 22.04 and everything is hunky dory
something changed between 22.04 and 24.04 that gives this machine problems
Replies: >>105741635 >>105741679
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:09:18 AM No.105741604
>>105741489
So NTFS has been around for over 30 years but FOSSfags still can't get it to work?
Replies: >>105741638 >>105741723
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:11:50 AM No.105741619
>>105741451
I3 1000g1 8 3.40g. It at least shows up on windows
Replies: >>105741698
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:14:23 AM No.105741635
>>105741596
22.04 has the driver for your nvidia card. 24.04 doesn't
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:15:39 AM No.105741638
>>105741604
it works as well as it needs to (to move everything off of it)
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:15:48 AM No.105741641
>>105741205
it's fixed. crisis is over.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:22:57 AM No.105741679
>>105741596
have you considered/tried nouveau? it's a foss nvidia driver built into linux.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:26:58 AM No.105741698
>>105741619
Yeah forget about Lubuntu dude, because your machine is OVERKILL for any lightweight distro. When the Linux community says "lightweight", they don't mean lightweight by sluggish Windows standards; they mean it will run on a single-core processor and 256MB of RAM.

Your computer (or any computer made in the last 15 years) will run any distro with KDE Plasma perfectly and get at least 2x the battery life compared to Windows. Is there anything specific you want out of Linux, cause we can help you pick a distribution (even if they're mostly the same). Just don't force yourself to install a crappy lightweight distro lol.
Replies: >>105741758 >>105741828 >>105751455
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:30:59 AM No.105741723
>>105741604
>can't
bro, we don't want that shit
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:38:22 AM No.105741758
>>105741698
yea, people have funny ideas of when they feel they need a lightweight distro. plasma (kde) wayland runs quite nicely on my 17 year old core2duo laptop with intel graphics
his i3-1000G1 is way faster than this
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:43:56 AM No.105741785
>>105741541
Because the Arch wiki is so up-to-date huh? That may be true a decade ago. But these days, try using it for anything outside of the basic installation. Literal nonsense that has nothing to do with the current state of the softwares discussed. They are leaking volunteers. Thatโ€™s why the repo and wiki arenโ€™t as great as it used to be.
Replies: >>105741823
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:50:38 AM No.105741823
>>105741785
More up to date than what you linked. For example it tells you that kernel mode setting is now enabled by default in the driver
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:51:01 AM No.105741828
>>105741698
I've been using mint xfce. I only need a browser and spreadsheet out of my laptop. So I decided to keep it lightweight. Audio sounded better on linux so I installed it on my cpu that's plugged into telly for music, torrent and streaming.

I've been meaning to install Debian with lxqt on lappy. Is there any benifit of using normally weighted distro? Shall I not bother with lightweight.
Replies: >>105742057
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:04:33 AM No.105741924
1732365169471093
1732365169471093
md5: 72efa1cd13d32c71a1b82a09a276a3f4๐Ÿ”
Is there any kiosk distro /application?
Got some SBCs for free and I want to put them to good use.
Replies: >>105742614 >>105742852
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:17:56 AM No.105741997
Install gentoo
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:26:31 AM No.105742057
>>105741828
>Is there any benifit of using normally weighted distro?
Your workflow will massively benefit from a better GUI. I really don't know how I'd get anything done on Xfce since things like the taskbar are ironically really cumbersome. KDE in 2025 uses barely any more RAM than Xfce anyway, so I don't see the use case of Xfce on your machine given it was built after 2019.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:28:29 AM No.105742069
1725180693928029
1725180693928029
md5: 641ab3033560c76a3aeb6fef6a8c1b2d๐Ÿ”
I don't know if this is a bug or normal behavior or fucked something on my part.
>Mini Pc running endeavor+KDE connected to my 4K TV
>everything running normally, then all of a sudden
>no video but the TV show there's HDMI signal
>switch to another HDMI port I get working video
>switch back to the old port, I get video but there's no mouse pointer and all inputs aren't working
>cycle on and off multiple times, same issue
>wait few minutes
>resolved on it's own
Any idea?
I tested the DP to HDMI adapter, changed the HDMI cable, connected to different monitor and it's all working fine.
I don't know what causing it to start troubleshooting it.
Any idea?
Replies: >>105742081 >>105743798 >>105743827
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:30:46 AM No.105742081
>>105742069
Did you try turning it off and on again? Second, which video drivers are you using?
Replies: >>105742187
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:40:44 AM No.105742126
>>105735633 (OP)
Hi! i have a Thinkpad T14 and was trying to play some games that ran great on windows, emulating on cemu for example, and not great on kubuntu or mint. It seems its an issue with the current driver i915 which is defaulted on any distro instead of the newer Xe, how do i change between them? How do i tell the OS that i want to use Xe instead of i915? Thanks in advance
Replies: >>105742148
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:45:01 AM No.105742148
>>105742126
Do you even have Xe yet?
Replies: >>105742158
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:46:00 AM No.105742152
Is KDE Neon User Edition ready to use as a daily driver?
Replies: >>105743514
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:47:26 AM No.105742158
>>105742148
yeah, i installed it trough a intel guide. how can i check?
Replies: >>105742170
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:48:37 AM No.105742170
>>105742158
>i installed it trough a intel guide.
it needs to be in the kernel, bro. What guide was that?
Replies: >>105742218 >>105742218
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:51:13 AM No.105742187
>>105742081
>Did you try turning it off and on again
Yeah I mentioned that.
Didn't help.
What did solve it, is switching the HDMI ports back and forth few times.
>which video drivers are you using?
Mesa? or i915 , the minipc have intel igpu HD 530
Could it be related to the separation of the linux firmware?
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:55:05 AM No.105742218
>>105742170
>>105742170
i used this one https://dgpu-docs.intel.com/driver/client/overview.html , now i need to know how to activate it instead of the i915
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:56:37 AM No.105742226
1000007651
1000007651
md5: c05f4db6f66c637e0282970b1b1741e6๐Ÿ”
Alri lads?
I'm trying to update my bios using freedos again. It worked before on my old HDD but I have replaced that with a SSD now and I noticed the bios version has reverted to older than it was before I updated it. I've tried doing what I did before and it doesn't seem to work now. It says it's flashed the bios but the bios itself doesn't say its version has changed.
Any ideas?
Replies: >>105742359 >>105742614
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:22:07 PM No.105742359
>>105742226
>but I have replaced that with a SSD now and I noticed the bios version has reverted to older than it was before I updated it.
that doesn't make sense
>It says it's flashed the bios but the bios itself doesn't say its version has changed.
are you certain the bios update you have is actually newer than what's installed?
Replies: >>105742381 >>105742402
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:28:41 PM No.105742381
1000007609
1000007609
md5: 009176bbe6f504e1626ea5fcf151db0f๐Ÿ”
>>105742359
Thanks for the reply, yeah I have no idea what's going on as I thought the bios update was stored on the mobo, not the hard drive.
Here is it on the HDD after update with freedos.
Replies: >>105742428
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:33:00 PM No.105742402
>>105742359
Here it is after installing the SSD and trying the same freedos method to updateso as you can see it's gone from 1.03.07 to 1.03.02.
Any ideas?
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:37:05 PM No.105742428
>>105742381
i see, the bios is the same version, but the KBC/EC controller firmware has changed. this is a different issue
there may be a different procedure/step you need to do to update the embedded controller in question. what laptop is this?
Replies: >>105742518 >>105742554
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:52:23 PM No.105742518
1000007402
1000007402
md5: d1b998442549c974804d59249ccc0dbc๐Ÿ”
>>105742428
It's an old clevo from pc specialist. The most up to date is 1.03.07 I'm guessing it's just for the ec firmware but I can't get that to work. Here's the readme.txt in the package
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:58:05 PM No.105742554
1000007653
1000007653
md5: 00cce29376c33c212d2d9d4f5044e1a3๐Ÿ”
>>105742428
Actually never mind chap, and thank you for your time. I managed to get it working using the .bat file which I never ran before, I just used the .exe and binary file. That's it flashed over fully!
Replies: >>105742571
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:00:43 PM No.105742571
>>105742554
i see, it's possible the batch file runs the exe with different flags, such as to also update the EC firmware. if you run the exe directly, it will be run with no flags
if i had the files you used i could see what the batch script does, but something like that is likely
Replies: >>105742607
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:08:08 PM No.105742607
1000007398
1000007398
md5: 3f4ebed90d7868b6dde1f772e9f490df๐Ÿ”
>>105742571
These are the files in the download. I have no idea why it worked on the HDD without the .bat
Replies: >>105742639
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:09:37 PM No.105742614
>>105741924
You set up a kiosk DE, I don't think "kiosk distros" exist.
>>105742226
How is this a Linux question?
>updating BIOS using DOS
What a throwback.
Replies: >>105742639 >>105742781
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:14:33 PM No.105742639
>>105742614
>How is this a Linux question?
i believe i've seen him before, i suggested someone use freedos for this some days ago. the reason it's here is because he's using linux so didn't know how to go about updating the bios.
now we both know that being a dos flasher, it doesn't matter what os is installed on the machine, but with no prior knowledge it's understandable he'd ask here first, being that the machine is running linux
>>105742607
the exe likely expects to be told what file to flash, which is what the batch file is likely doing, like for example it might contain;
ELASH14C.EXE ECW5xSU1.07
that is, the exe, with the image to be flashed as an argument
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:41:17 PM No.105742781
>>105742614
It's using freedos which I have to use to update the bios as this is a Ubuntu system, without using windows was my thinking. Either way it's resolved now and a helpful anon here helped me in the first place.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:52:14 PM No.105742852
>>105741924
a kiosk is a class of software, not a specific program. there are distros that run a single program in a kiosk fashion, such as ones that run steam big picture or kodi directly, etc.
at a lower level, there are things like "cage", a kiosk-style wayland compositor, if you want to build a kiosk with your own application
Replies: >>105742868
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:54:56 PM No.105742868
>>105742852
>such as ones that run steam big picture or kodi directly, etc.
(though, i should add, usually without the security elements of a kiosk, i.e. they don't lock out the rest of the system to a user to prevent them breaking out of the kiosk application, so they aren't really full kiosks)
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:15:22 PM No.105743256
>Italian Linux users have to declare that they sweat every time they want to insert a super user command
grim
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:51:20 PM No.105743514
>>105742152
No. It's literally made for KDE devs, not for an average user. Even their "User Edition".
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:12:23 PM No.105743684
All this drama from the past few weeks makes me want to stop using Linux. I came here to get away from this shit from Microsoft, not encounter more of it but on steroids from fucking IBM.
>nherrrr what's the use case for being able to drag and drop
Why are these people even software developers?
Replies: >>105743692 >>105743700
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:13:37 PM No.105743692
>>105743684
the fuck are you talking about retard
Replies: >>105743694 >>105743724
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:13:58 PM No.105743694
>>105743692
kill yourself.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:14:53 PM No.105743700
>>105743684
Name 10 "drama" things that happened and how they would affect you
Replies: >>105743724 >>105743858 >>105746525
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:18:18 PM No.105743724
>>105743692
Raging about GNOME which used to be my favorite DE but basically rejected basic shit yet again when they were asked to implement dragging + dropping from archives. Then they banned the person who asked for it.

>>105743700
The last few weeks with Red Hat is an entire laundry list if drama. The last few weeks with GNOME has been its own laundry list. Especially if you have older hardware and you can't just use the newest thing. But why would I run it on newer hardware if this is how they're going to act about older hardware?
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:20:54 PM No.105743746
What's so bad about systems. What's do chuds mean by control over system. As a normal users who just don't with windows care to switch to devuan from debian.

Explain why xlibre over hyperland while you're at it
Replies: >>105743799
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:22:15 PM No.105743760
>chuds
opinion discarded. using a different DE isn't a political statement, retard. This is fucking software and your continued meltdown over Nazis from the 30s who never got to see a modern PC ain't it.
Replies: >>105750770
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:26:02 PM No.105743798
1724116128337048
1724116128337048
md5: ea0c15212302936b23ae6a2d84c6a3c0๐Ÿ”
>>105742069
welp it happened again.
It's annoying since there's no error messages,
I can sunshine to it just fine.
Just physically interacting with it is no go.
Replies: >>105743827
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:26:08 PM No.105743799
>>105743746
Well Hyprland fucking sucks. For one they're doing the paid donation thing that has been the downfall of dozens of projects because eventually, they will get to the point where donations don't keep up with development costs. For two, it's still lacking a multitude of features over X11 that nobody seems to care about. Just a few weeks ago there was drama over the fact they don't seem to give a shit about portals. At the same time they were gettin delisted from Debian because they caught a ton of bug reports they also didn't fix.

I haven't used xlibre and dont' know anything about it.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:28:38 PM No.105743827
>>105743798
>>105742069
This mini-pc isn't a raspberry pi, is it? There's a certain firmware setting you have to set in raspi-config to correctly choose the right HDMI port on ones that have multiple.
Replies: >>105743887
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:31:28 PM No.105743858
>>105743700
>How does this affect you PERSONALLY?
Wayland and GNOME choking Linux by refusing to modernize does in fact affect me personally and I hate freedesktoporg with a passion even if I don't think X11 is the future.
Sure there are other options but they are the forefront of linux and they decide where the ecosystem goes. I can hide on mate until the last stable kernel finally deprecates but that doesn't change the fact that I could do the same on Windows or Mac.
Replies: >>105744258
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:34:39 PM No.105743887
>>105743827
>This mini-pc isn't a raspberry pi
No, it's X86 processor, Think Center M 920q.
It has two Display Ports, but I think I wasn't clear.
When I said I switched to different HDMI port I meant on the TV, trying different DP didn't solve it.
If I have to describe it, It's as if the mini pc doesn't realize there is a monitor connected to it, since even the power button doesn't work.
I'm pretty sure it's DE thing or something in the settings because of that.
Replies: >>105743962
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:41:54 PM No.105743962
>>105743887
>Displayports
So fun fact with those: because these are also serial, there's a highly likely chance that it's not detecting it at all. Most monitors don't default to displayport nor can they detect when one is plugged in. Does the TV have a way to select it spefiically?
Most of my displayport devices have the same problem: You have to elect to use them to get anything. Otherwise it defaulted to whatever standard output it had. If, for whatever reason, the settings on which displayport you were using were undone - you had to reconnect HDMI and opt back in for displayport.
Replies: >>105744176
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:03:32 PM No.105744176
1727100418384270
1727100418384270
md5: b29cec16d9545113b81567efdea14c4f๐Ÿ”
>>105743962
>Most monitors don't default to displayport nor can they detect when one is plugged in. Does the TV have a way to select it spefiically?
The mini pc have ONLY DP no HDMI.
I use DP to HDMI adapter, and for the TV this is the same as being plugged to HDMI, since the port is DP++.
The thing didn't work even when disconnecting and reconnecting as well.
Or am I misunderstanding something here?
Replies: >>105745792
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:11:16 PM No.105744258
>>105743858
>GNOME
>forefront of linux
This hasn't been true in years.
Replies: >>105744725
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:26:56 PM No.105744382
1750048663502567
1750048663502567
md5: 09f3ace839ac748cc037b0fc6f201262๐Ÿ”
The best distro for music listening
Replies: >>105745356
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:32:43 PM No.105744440
>>105741541
Why do you figure that it's "out of date?"
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:07:41 PM No.105744725
>>105744258
being the forefront is not the same thing as you liking it, anomalous.
Replies: >>105745392 >>105745997
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:21:39 PM No.105745356
>>105744382
For listening any of them with pipewire should be enough, for recording/mixing I use arch + linux-rt + pro audio profile, if you want autism tier latency look into jack2
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:25:19 PM No.105745392
>>105744725
It's probably less the forefront now than it has been since the late 90s. Cinnamon and KDE are the largest growth fronts. KDE even has equal status to GNOME in Fedora, the official upstream distro of GNOME.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:39:12 PM No.105745552
>>105735633 (OP)
Wtf bros, am I fucked?
>have encrypted arch install with UKI+ secure boot
>works fine for months
>go away from home for a few days
>return
>start pc
>"SECURE BOOT POLICY VIOLATION, INVALID SIGNATURE DETECTED"
Replies: >>105745802 >>105745813 >>105745816 >>105745919
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:49:59 PM No.105745668
>>105735633 (OP)
sci linux is unnecessary.
i realize that everyone is free to fork and make their own distro, but this one doesn't solve any problem.... except name and logo?
Replies: >>105749684
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:02:09 PM No.105745792
>>105744176
>I use DP to HDMI adapter, and for the TV this is the same as being plugged to HDMI, since the port is DP++.
So DP sends packets, HDMI sends signals and states. I don't know if that's your problem, but in the past my TV wouldn't just recognize that the current HDMI connection was active because the converter I was using wasn't sending the clock signal correctly. It may not be recognizing it as a valid HDMI connection at all this way.

It may have nothing to do with that, but Displayport has given me this problem in the past because the monitor has to first be awake and know it's looking for displayport packets. In this case, your converter has to be awake and know it's receiving displayport packets to convert it to HDMI.

Check the specs on your HDMI converter and make sure it supports that version of DP++ and see what kind of quirks it could have with plugging it straight to HDMI
Replies: >>105746623
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:03:09 PM No.105745802
>>105745552
Kernel updated, disable secure boot in bios and try again
Replies: >>105745815
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:04:05 PM No.105745813
>>105745552
>fell for the secure boot meme
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:04:30 PM No.105745815
>>105745802
Or use some command-line flag in grub to disable signature checking I forgot what it was. Either ways this is normal if you haven't updated in a while and a certificate expired or if you just updated and the kernel image doesn't match what it's expecting to see in gpt
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:04:31 PM No.105745816
>>105745552
The glowies fucked with your PC. Change all locks
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:13:50 PM No.105745919
Undine Almani
Undine Almani
md5: 65e3b1e0a2a5092016f53daa2e340730๐Ÿ”
>>105745552
you're computer is now secure
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:21:11 PM No.105745997
>>105744725
KDE is currently by far the most relevant DE and it's not even close. And GNOME has been losing market share to Cinnamon in the past 4 years because Ubuntu has become far less popular on desktop compared to Mint.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:09:30 PM No.105746504
Bros, what's the best distro for gaming and regular use? I wanna switch already since people keep telling me that Linux gaming is great nowadays and a game I play even gives me more fps in Linux.
Replies: >>105746541 >>105746562 >>105746569 >>105746572 >>105750290
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:11:50 PM No.105746525
>>105743700
>Name 10 "drama" things that happened and how they would affect you
NTA but
>Fedora wanting to discontinue 32 bit applications
Obv how it would affect anyone.
>Everything with systemD
This is like 30 reasons alone but we'll count it as one
>Canonical wanting to add opt-out telemetry
>Everything with X11 support and GNOME dropping it
>Everything with Nvidia drivers and nouveau telling old gfx cards to kill themselves
>The entire stupid fucking debacle over Canonical And Amazon Affiliates
because that's why we use linux, right? to give our data to amazon?
>The recent uutils stupidity
>the recent booting of bcachefs and Kent being a wanker
We need something like it, too
>Fuck Snaps
and finally
>The further stupid fucking divide happening in the Linux kernel over Rust or monolithic C.
Can't wait for naval-gazing imbeciles to start stalling the creation of drivers on cutting edge hardware because they can't decide what kind of hammer they want to use.

These are just the ones off the top of my head. If I went searching I would find more. All of this, and I just realized that I didn't actually cover the wayland / xlibre debacle that's been going on in the background, which I guess doesn't affect me because I'm using Wayland anyway.

At the end of the day, for all of the people who think of themselves as being very serious programmers keeping Linux alive, so many of them are just such spoiled little twats who have never been told 'No' in their lives. Some of them with the power to completely crash out and destroy the project they're attached to for no other reason than spite, and continue to threaten to do so.
Replies: >>105746850
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:13:51 PM No.105746541
>>105746504
Just use Arch if you can do it, Mint if you can't. I only say Arch if you can do it because it's bleeding edge and idk what hardware you may want to run. You may want the most up-to-date drivers or you may want the most stable drivers. Mint just seems to Just Werk for everyone regardless but I've encountered times when I want to use the latest and greatest packages that debian just doesn't have.
Replies: >>105746737
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:16:10 PM No.105746562
>>105746504
Linux is 99% the same between distros, but Arch-based ones have the latest drivers and optimisations and shit since they're so-called "rolling releases". Fedora-based and ESPECIALLY Debian-based distros have outdated firmware and whatnot, often by 6 months or 2 years, which can make a big difference in gaming.

I say go for Manjaro KDE. It's Arch-based so you get new stuff before most people, yet the updates are also vetted, unlike other Arch distros, which means you're not just going to get broken buggy shit for the sake of living on the bleeding edge.
Replies: >>105746737
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:16:55 PM No.105746569
>>105746504
Bazzite is probably the best Linux distro right now and it's gaming oriented.
Replies: >>105746581 >>105746737
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:17:14 PM No.105746572
>>105746504
If you're playing multiplayer games, it's worth seeing if the anticheat systems are compatible with Liunx: https://areweanticheatyet.com/
Replies: >>105746737
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:18:33 PM No.105746581
>>105746569
There's no point to a gaming-specific distro. Bazzite is just an immutable Fedora, ie even more locked down than Windows. If you're smart enough to not delete System 32 then you don't need an immutable distro.
Replies: >>105746653
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:21:58 PM No.105746606
Threadly reminder that Bazzite shilling is for entertainment purposes only.
Replies: >>105746693
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:22:17 PM No.105746608
Is there an application where I can write hand written notes over a monthly calendar template? It being not over the web would be preferred.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:23:24 PM No.105746623
1728614558248072
1728614558248072
md5: 0fe702aa1454210d8ce5d7e54e565f87๐Ÿ”
>>105745792
>Check the specs on your HDMI converter and make sure it supports that version of DP++ and see what kind of quirks it could have with plugging it straight to HDMI
I checked all that.
The adapter work fine since it's a passive adapter.
If the source supports dual-mode DisplayPort (also known as DP++ which is what I have), then all you need is a passive adapter because the source can perform the conversion from DP to HDMI.
Which is what I see on both devices, the TV see HDMI being bulged in, and the mini PC see HDMI sink.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:25:21 PM No.105746638
GrJYE6EXwAAgFJP
GrJYE6EXwAAgFJP
md5: b62eaf7d432e4cd2a35b96a1665de21c๐Ÿ”
Trying to sync up my shit between waterfox on ubuntu and waterrfox on windows fully (same machine different drives)
Was able to transfer things like cookies and bookmarks but couldn't get extensions to sync up along with stuff like general settings not appearing to be synced up.

If I figure it out where should i write a guide/tutorial so that I can help other people out with syncing their browsers.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:26:48 PM No.105746653
>>105746581
>more locked down than Windows.
Stop spouting nonsense.

>Bazzite is just immutable Fedora
No, it's a vastly improved out-of-the-box experience for Fedora Kinoite/Silverblue. Just like Mint is to Ubuntu and Ubuntu was to Debian. Only an absolute moron would, to an absolute beginner, recommend a distribution that's not polished enough for desktop use.
This argument doesn't even make sense since you could call any distro "just a version of Linux From Scratch".

>you don't need an immutable distro.
It's not fully immutable. You can install stuff system wide.
Immutability isn't even it's main selling point, atomic updates are. It's literally the only Linux distro which doesn't get randomly absolutely fucked after applying a system update.
Replies: >>105746667 >>105746689 >>105746725
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:28:04 PM No.105746667
>>105746653
>It's literally the only Linux distro which doesn't get randomly absolutely fucked after applying a system update.
Manjaro works on my machine.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:30:24 PM No.105746689
>>105746653
>the only Linux distro which doesn't get randomly absolutely fucked after applying a system update
Linux user don't post outdated info from 2012 challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Replies: >>105746823
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:31:06 PM No.105746693
>>105746606
Even the founder is jumping ship
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:35:35 PM No.105746725
1720261098528866
1720261098528866
md5: 749c8dd404a8c0d9b96778c233088ba4๐Ÿ”
>>105746653
>It's literally the only Linux distro which doesn't get randomly absolutely fucked after applying a system update
sure bud
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:37:22 PM No.105746737
>>105746541
>>105746562
Yeah I'm using arch right now. It was kinda annoying at first due to how "raw" everything feels but I guess being DIY-like it's one of its perks.

Once I figured out how to use pacman and a few other commands, it's actually kinda fun and the road blocks are manageable.
Like saying to myself "hm mouse feels weird, like it's being accelerated or some shit" and fixing the problem while learning something in the process.

>>105746569
That one looks quite cool, I'll give it a try

>>105746572
Yep I'm aware, all good
Replies: >>105746799
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:39:38 PM No.105746754
>>105741376
>>105741451
Xubuntu Minimal and Mint are the only of these spins that have ever worked for me.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:45:36 PM No.105746799
>>105746737
I recommend installing pamac
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:47:04 PM No.105746809
>>105737655
Maybe your shell is trying to use system Python's pip for whatever reason, uv comes with an 'uv pip' command that forcefully tries to use the one from the configured environment
https://docs.astral.sh/uv/pip/compatibility/#compatibility-with-pip-and-pip-tools
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:48:57 PM No.105746823
>>105746689
Kid, you clearly haven't been using Linux for over 2-3 years. Call me when your Arch update breaks your system or when your Ubuntu major version upgrade breaks it.
Having an OS where you never have to worry when you click an update icon is a good thing.
Replies: >>105746844
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:50:46 PM No.105746844
>>105746823
Anything that isn't a bleeding edge distro will install updates just fine. This isn't 2012.
Replies: >>105746864
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:51:41 PM No.105746850
>>105746525
>Fedora wanting to discontinue 32 bit
I see why they'd want that, but honestly any serious OS should keep 32bit support until 2038.
What actually needs to happen is for Linux to have something like WoW64. Or a VM-based or container-based compatibility layer which doesn't rely on native multilib.
>Everything with systemD
Eh, it's a de-facto standard now. I'm not sure what drama there is other than it becoming a standard in an OS that's supposed to be modular. Still, I fail to see what the actual problem with it is from a user perspective.
>Canonical wanting to add opt-out telemetry
>Snaps
>Amazon
It's not really recent drama. Also, their relevancy on desktops rapidly dropped in the past 5 years. So, this doesn't matter much.
>The recent uutils stupidity
Is this the Ubuntu rust rewrite thing? Literally who cares?
>Everything with X11 support and GNOME dropping it
I see no issue here. X11 will be a "frozen" build of X, while XLibre will become a modern version of it. Wayland replacing X is fine. People are complaining just for the sake of complaining. For example, they scream about being forced to use Wayland only, meanwhile they were literally forced to use X11 only for decades. So, it's something I can't take seriously at all.
>Everything with Nvidia drivers and nouveau telling old gfx cards to kill themselves
nVidia drivers is old drama, but I get your point considering it's the biggest GPU vendor.
>the recent booting of bcachefs and Kent being a wanker
This affects literally nobody.
>The further stupid fucking divide happening in the Linux kernel over Rust or monolithic C.
Rust is clearly a significantly better choice for any serious project. Kernel devs will be allowed to use Rust without any issues as long as the C boomers die.
Replies: >>105746894 >>105746897 >>105747792 >>105747801
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:53:36 PM No.105746864
>>105746844
Sure, buddy. Keep telling yourself that.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:57:55 PM No.105746894
red hat leaked code of conduct
red hat leaked code of conduct
md5: 139a158c4b5b2c61214fb67576576c87๐Ÿ”
>>105746850
The newest drama that actually affects Linux end users is Wayland fags admitting their anti-X FUD is disingenuous bullshit. We could've gotten a modern X already with all the features that Wayland's shitty isolation makes impossible, if not for RHEL intentionally killing it and thereby making "Xorg is unmaintained" a self-fulfilling prophecy. The moment somebody tries to improve X, he gets called an alt-right nazi fascist and is unpersoned. Freedesktop is not free as in libre and are trying to make Linux undemocratic.
Replies: >>105746959 >>105746995
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:58:11 PM No.105746897
>>105746850
>as long as the C boomers die.
as soon as* the C boomers die
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:06:42 PM No.105746959
>>105746894
>We could've gotten a modern X already
But isn't that what XLibre is supposed to be? It's also avoiding freedesktop completely. You'll still have DEs and WMs which support the "modern" X11.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:11:12 PM No.105746995
>>105746894
>We could've gotten a modern X already
No, because no one wants to work on that.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:23:30 PM No.105747109
mpv-shot0180
mpv-shot0180
md5: 542f937938402ac0cc49965b775bcb3f๐Ÿ”
To those of you using the Cinnamon desktop environment, how often do you use CTRL+ALT+DownArrow? I actually just stumbled upon this keyboard shortcut fairly recently. It's really neat, feels Mac-like, but I've got ALT+TAB ingrained into my soul.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:29:22 PM No.105747162
Okay, WHY is kwin wayland pegging my CPU usage? The x11 session hovers at around 10%. I don't really care too much because this is a server anyway, but does it like expect way better graphics than a Supermicro motherboard's onboard stuff? Does it normally depend on hardware encoders or something and does this when they're not around?
This is a fresh install of debian.
Replies: >>105747382
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:38:26 PM No.105747234
I am at my distro's DE selection step in the install wizard. Which of these should I select if I am fair skinned, employed, and not transsexual?
Replies: >>105747382 >>105747453 >>105749349
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:44:49 PM No.105747289
Suddenly my mouse is fucking up and the pointer moves jerky and freezes.

Thought it was my wireless mouse, but tried another and it worked for a few minutes, then same shit.

When trying to move the mouse pointer over a terminal window it kept inputting the following:
[27;5;9~[27;5;9~[27;5;9~[27;5;9~[27;5;9~[27;5;9~^C

Any ideas wtf is wrong with it?
Tried a system update and restart but same shit.
Arch linux/KDE/X
Replies: >>105748001
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:48:12 PM No.105747328
I can't wrap my head around MPD. I have it up and running on my server. I have MPD and MPC installed on my client machine but I can not get it to play music at all. I don't even know if I'm doing it right. Can I use MPD to play music on my local machine from a MPD server running remotely?
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:53:29 PM No.105747382
>>105747162
>this is a server
>x11 session, wayland
for what purpose?

>>105747234
KDE Plasma
Replies: >>105747398
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:56:49 PM No.105747398
>>105747382
Because being a supermicro board it has the BMC for remote graphical management and there's some VM stuff I only know how to do via the GUI that I want to do. Plus I don't know if I could restore from a kbackup via the command line.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:03:40 PM No.105747453
>>105747234
There are only two worth using and actively improved.
KDE or Gnome
Everything else is a meme. The so so called "lightweight" distros are heavier nowadays than KDE with less features lol, LMAO even
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:05:36 PM No.105747476
>>105739882
First you need to tell me what meme page you are viewing here
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:07:57 PM No.105747499
When using KDE, why isn't it possible to assign the <meta> key as a shortcut for overview? I want to use to open the overview and use it as a form of launcher but it will only accept a multi-key keybind. Am I missing something obvious here or is it just not possible to assign a single key command to access the overview...?
Replies: >>105747553 >>105747558
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:08:33 PM No.105747508
what OS are people with 9070XT using
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:13:04 PM No.105747553
>>105747499
I think they don't want it to conflict with people's usage of <meta> for moving windows around or opening the application menu.
But you CAN actually make it work with a double clicked <meta>. Just tap Meta twice, it'll be stored as "Meta, Meta" and you just double tap it to open the overview.
Replies: >>105747668
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:13:42 PM No.105747558
>>105747499
Dunno, I have it set to what KDE thinks is the 'meta' key (actually super) and it just werks.โ„ข
Not sure why KDE thinks the super key (windows key) is meta though, rather than alt (as in emacs).
Hell, I may have changed that myself sometime in the distant past due to conflicts, who can know such things.

In any case, you should be able to set just meta alone as the shortcut, as I have done.
Though I may be mistaken as to what you mean by overview now that I think of it. I have it set to open the fullscreen menu thing sorta like mac, and then meta+space for krunner (though the menu you can also just type into to run shit I think it has krunner built in sorta).
Replies: >>105747580
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:14:52 PM No.105747580
>>105747558
Hmm just realized krunner is alt+space not meta+space lol but anyway.
Replies: >>105747668
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:22:29 PM No.105747667
How do I fix this? Im on Fedora btw
https://files.catbox.moe/ba4gug.mkv
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:22:38 PM No.105747668
>>105747553
I don't know why but it doesn't work. I can assign any other single key command but it won't accept <meta> without binding it to an additional key. Just pressing the <meta> key doesn't do anything as it doesn't accept the input and I've made sure that it isn't bound to anything else so there shouldn't be any conflicts.
>>105747580
Yeah, it's supposed to open the overview which simultaneously opens the krunner input so it can be used as a launcher while giving you an overview of all active windows at the same time. As above, it works as inteded if I bind it to anything else but just the <meta> key itself is a no-go...
Replies: >>105747747 >>105747752
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:30:41 PM No.105747747
>>105747668
Are you using Wayland? It's a glitchy pile of shit and random stuff doesn't work.
Though I just logged out and logged into a wayland session to see if it made a difference with my own issue (it did not), and the meta key still worked fine to bring up the fullscreen application launcher, so I assume it should be possible to use it by itself as an arbitrary shortcut.
Replies: >>105747779 >>105747855
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:31:02 PM No.105747752
>>105747668
Nevermind, you can go into the shortcut settings to enable meta+meta but for some reason it isn't possible if you try to edit it from the desktop effects menu which essentially should be the same thing...? Meta itself still isn't possible though for some reason but meta+meta is a fine alternative. Thanks!
Replies: >>105747855
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:32:40 PM No.105747766
I use linux for servers and raspbery pi projects. I think Linux as it stands fuckin sucks as a OS for every day use. Why would I want to bother with the centralized package issues that plagues linux when I could just run an exe on a light windows install
Replies: >>105747841 >>105750290 >>105750375 >>105751514
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:33:59 PM No.105747779
>>105747747
Yeah, the KDE spin of Fedora so it's Wayland. For some reason it's possible to add the meta-meta binding from the shortcut menu but if you try doing it from the desktop effects menu nothing happens regardless how many times you press <meta>. Perhaps it's just a glitch because you can assign pretty much anything from the desktop effects menu to <meta> except the overview...
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:35:39 PM No.105747792
>>105746850
>I see why they'd want that
Anyone who wants that is a fool. Software doesn't stop being useful when an arbitrary date passes. I still use 16 bit applications at work
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:37:05 PM No.105747801
>>105746850
>Eh, it's a de-facto standard now.
Oh and this too, It became a de-facto "standard" because everyone got a gun pointed at their favorite distros and were told "Convert or break". And it's such a shitty implementation half of the components aren't even being used anymore by the people who were holding that gun in the first place like how Ubuntu dropped support for the time sync module.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:41:01 PM No.105747841
>>105747766
I'm guessing this is just bait but I'll bite anyway in hopes of it helping someone else out there but the whole point of flatpaks is to run a single application in a container.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:42:28 PM No.105747855
>>105747747
I'm on Wayland and I can set it to both a single-press Meta or a double-press Meta and it works just fine.
Let's stop pretending that Wayland doesn't work, it's not 2010 anymore.

>>105747752
> it isn't possible if you try to edit it from the desktop effects menu which essentially should be the same thing
Personally I never used the desktop effects section to modify keyboard shortcuts, but if it does allow editing keyboard shortcuts then it's probably a bug.
Replies: >>105747950 >>105748010
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:51:43 PM No.105747950
>>105747855
>Let's stop pretending that Wayland doesn't work, it's not 2010 anymore.
Maybe it works for you, but that is not remotely my experience with it. I'm not sticking with X out of any sort of principle or anything, I try it periodically, and every time shit's fucked to the point I have to go back to X.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:57:10 PM No.105748001
>>105747289
Nobody?
Any clue what [27;5;9~ is? The mouse is sending that sequence for some reason.
I'm using an MX Master 2S, but I've moved the wireless receiver from my monitor to the computer itself (though it never had problems before) and still the same issue. I tried an alternative mouse (Wacom Intuos 3 mouse) and it worked fine for several minutes then started having the same issue. It's not wireless the same way as the logitech so it can't be a wireless issue. Haven't dug out a wired mouse yet to test, but I don't have high hopes.
The stylus on the wacom works fine though, no issue, it's just the mouse that shares the issue with my main mouse which leads me to believe it's something with the actually mouse pointer code on my system or something. I've changed my stylus to relative mode (doesn't let me change the mouse on the wacom to absolute mode for some reason) so I'll se if it ends up having the same issue.
Replies: >>105748016
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:58:43 PM No.105748010
>>105747855
>Let's stop pretending that Wayland doesn't work, it's not 2010 anymore.

Depends on your use case/implementation. Mine uses lots of shortcut keys and half of them will just randomly not work.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:59:51 PM No.105748016
>>105748001
Are you using tmux or screen? Also which terminal emulator?
Replies: >>105748080
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:07:56 AM No.105748080
>>105748016
I guess I should have been more specific, I'm using konsole. The mouse pointer is fucked everywhere though, it's just when it's over the konsole window I get that input. Also noticed the KDE system settings window would glitch out weirdly when I tried to mouse over it, it's using QML which I've had bizarre issues with in the past (like the wacom tablet not being able to activate some controls but that's a Qt bug, apparently).
Mouse was working fine up until mid-day or so today. Just recently updated to the latest KDE yesterday though, so that may have impacted things.
Replies: >>105748121 >>105748137
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:13:05 AM No.105748121
>>105748080
I don't use Konsole, try clicking the menu at the top right and going to configure konsole at the bottom. Check and see if it's taking the mouse as an input device because that shit shouldn't be happening. Also check the shortcuts menu as well to see if it sneakily put a mouse shortcut in

The input you're seeing, [27;5;9~ that's just junk. I can get something similar if I mousewheel in some terminal emulators.
Replies: >>105748399
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:14:43 AM No.105748137
>>105748080
Oh right and check journal to see if that's not the starting tag to something that was dropped in that's with journalctl -f | grep --line-buffered kde
Replies: >>105748399
pags
6/30/2025, 12:17:50 AM No.105748168
>>105735651
Linuxรฆ
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:38:43 AM No.105748342
is there a non-shitty notepad editor like notepad++ that has dark mode, find and replace, autosave and restore session with multiple tabs that doesn't constantly crash and delete my fucking files like notepadqq?
Replies: >>105749763 >>105749813 >>105750444 >>105751088
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:46:33 AM No.105748399
>>105748121
>>105748137
When I ran journalctl I kept getting (not constantly but intermittently) ^[^[[27;5;9~ as I move the mouse around, even outside the konsole window. Not pushing any buttons or scrolling or anything, simply moving the mouse about.
Got no shortcuts or mouse input settings.

So I guess that gibberish isn't a clue as to why my mouse is glitching and the pointer is randomly sticking or not moving? Was kinda hoping that might help figure out the issue.
Replies: >>105749320
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:49:04 AM No.105748413
>>105735651
troonixi
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:20:00 AM No.105748700
>>105739305

maybe go konsole
locate item
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:12:57 AM No.105749136
the wintrannies are making fun of us again
Replies: >>105749186
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:20:08 AM No.105749186
>>105749136
it's kind of weird that people takes sides in that shit honestly
idk who's more obnoxious
Replies: >>105749269
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:27:47 AM No.105749235
>install cachyos
>now middle mouse button doesn't work properly
>windows key also doesn't work
But why? Everything works just fine when I boot up W11
Replies: >>105749243
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:29:25 AM No.105749243
>>105749235
you don't need any of that.
usecase for windows button on linux?????????
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:32:18 AM No.105749269
1735458630055358
1735458630055358
md5: 986e7a0cab6e8a9d0aa08609a613cdd9๐Ÿ”
>>105749186
>idk who's more obnoxious
we all know the answer to that
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:39:36 AM No.105749320
>>105748399
>So I guess that gibberish isn't a clue as to why my mouse is glitching and the pointer is randomly sticking or not moving? Was kinda hoping that might help figure out the issue.
It could be, does the sticking and not moving happen when one of these artifacts appear? You should see an entry in one of the logs if so.

Another thing to consider is maybe trying another terminal emulator like XTerm and seeing if it happens there too
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:42:13 AM No.105749349
>>105747234
xfce
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:45:27 AM No.105749372
If I just want to game and shitpost online what linux should I use?
Replies: >>105749420 >>105749762 >>105750290 >>105751088
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:45:34 AM No.105749374
What was the best 90s distro to, at least, pair with Windows 95/98/2000/ME at the time?
Replies: >>105749420 >>105749527 >>105753940
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:52:28 AM No.105749420
>>105749372
Mint just works and is the best distro for anyone switching from Windows to Linux,
but if you can set up Arch it's probably better for gaming because you can get more modern drivers/firmware

>>105749374
What do you mean by 90s distro? Do you want a distro that's actually from the 90s, a distro that works on 90s hardware, or a distro that just looks like its from the 90s? You can rice any Linux install to look like a 90s computer using something like https://www.windowmaker.org/
Replies: >>105749504 >>105750388
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:03:54 AM No.105749504
>>105749420
Ideally the first option, something actually from the time. Of course, I'm also a bit open to the second option as well, if things are too shitty to consider.
Replies: >>105749544
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:05:50 AM No.105749518
Is there a way to move over to linux from windows without losing all of my data and programs?
Replies: >>105749637
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:06:29 AM No.105749527
>>105749374
idk about best but I remember trying mandrake when that came out
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:09:06 AM No.105749544
>>105749504
slackware
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:18:00 AM No.105749607
>>105736158
>>105736181
automount works well and has some improvements over fstab, either is fine though
There's also autofs(I think?) but never used it
>reee systemd
I don't care, it works
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:21:40 AM No.105749634
>>105736754
Add --fix-missing to apt install?
I just installed kubuntu 25.04 minimal and it's definitely a lot nicer without snap and other junk but getting an initial browser is the most annoying part.
Can't remember if I did chrome or Firefox first with wget but both installed fine
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:22:16 AM No.105749637
>>105749518
>losing all of my data
If you do a dual boot then you should be able to access your Windows file system from your Linux install, otherwise just transfer it to a different drive
>and programs?
Windows programs don't usually work on Linux and vice-versa out of the box, but you could try using WINE
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:26:10 AM No.105749662
>>105735633 (OP)
is it possible to use fedora silverblue for desktop?
Replies: >>105749677
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:28:48 AM No.105749677
>>105749662
Yeah. Personally I dont get why people like the immutable editions, I havent had issues with regular fedora but do you do.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:29:44 AM No.105749684
>>105745668
Sci Linux doesn't even exist anymore, does it? Last time I checked they recommended moving to alma or rocky
Replies: >>105749746
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:40:49 AM No.105749746
>>105749684

Correct, it went end of life June 30th 2024. CERN standardised on Alma.

https://listserv.fnal.gov/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind2212&L=SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS&P=78
Replies: >>105749849
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:43:11 AM No.105749762
>>105749372

bazzite, just works out the box.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:43:17 AM No.105749763
>>105748342
vscode
:3
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:51:38 AM No.105749813
>>105748342

This will probably go down like a lead ballon but i really like typora, but its paid (15bux) and closed source.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:59:02 AM No.105749849
>>105749746
>listserv.fnal.gov
the fuck even is this.

>there's a black fermialab group Fermilab African American Black Association (FABA)
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:01:06 AM No.105750195
...and my microphone stopped working out of the blue. again.
Replies: >>105750216 >>105750624 >>105750636
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:04:28 AM No.105750216
>>105750195
well stop sticking your dick in the microphone and splooging all over it.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:18:57 AM No.105750290
>>105749372
>>105746504
Arch.
>>105747766
>bother with the centralized package
>centralized package
>bother
Thought that made life easier.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:33:04 AM No.105750375
>>105747766
>when I could just run an exe on a light windows install
Linux has appimages
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:34:34 AM No.105750388
>>105749420
>Mint just works and is the best distro for anyone switching from Windows to Linux,
People need to stop recommending Mint when its default file manager doesn't have thumbnails.
Replies: >>105750397 >>105750564
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:36:16 AM No.105750397
>>105750388
Oh noooooooooes I can't preview my tranny porn images it's the end of the world I need to cooooooooooom to trannys
Replies: >>105750478 >>105752324 >>105752324
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:45:18 AM No.105750444
>>105748342
Kate
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:50:30 AM No.105750466
1744874897312428
1744874897312428
md5: 47f6af19dac346265ad103fe985b1b39๐Ÿ”
Nobara, bazzite or cachyos?
Replies: >>105750494 >>105750497 >>105750568 >>105751088 >>105751525
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:51:24 AM No.105750478
>>105750397
>Basic QoL feature that lets you see what the hell you're looking at
Where else would this be reviled than a Linux thread? You may as well tell him to run it headless, dumbass.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:54:04 AM No.105750494
>>105750466
Cachyos is fast
Faaaaaaaaaast
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:54:12 AM No.105750497
>>105750466
Nobara is like if Mint was based on Fedora and was focused on playing games and content creation.
Bazzite is if SteamOS was based on immutable Fedora, was focused on the desktop mode and came with Homebrew to install binaries
CachyOS is Arch with its own included modified kernel that focuses on desktop use and has a affection for x86_64-v3/v4.
Take your pick.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:54:54 AM No.105750501
Could someone give me an ebussy picture real quick I don't have any downloaded.
Replies: >>105750552
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:55:17 AM No.105750504
1692041225669753
1692041225669753
md5: 9c2217d6caade46feee24a910345c8f0๐Ÿ”
Any recommendations for programs to sync one folder with another (on a different drive)
Preferably with a sync done on startup and resyncing the files whenever there's a changer in one of the folders or at least an easy way to sync everything before shutting off the pc.
Replies: >>105750639
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:02:52 AM No.105750552
>>105750501
>>105736951
Replies: >>105750582
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:04:36 AM No.105750564
>>105750388
Fixing that is literally as simple as changing a single setting
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:05:22 AM No.105750568
>>105750466
Bazzite if you have to ask. Nobara is a one man show and CachyOS is Arch.
Replies: >>105750576 >>105750591
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:07:02 AM No.105750576
>>105750568
It's a "one man show" but that man is a Red Hat engineer savant who created Lutris and proton-ge-custom.
Replies: >>105750589
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:08:24 AM No.105750582
>>105750552
thanks bruv
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:09:05 AM No.105750589
>>105750576
Even he has limits, I would be more willing to recommend it if it was based on Fedora Atomic like Bazzite, more retard proof.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:09:24 AM No.105750591
>>105750568
>one man show
I don't think that's the case anymore
Replies: >>105750602
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:10:55 AM No.105750602
>>105750591
Yeah I think he's gotten some helpers in the past year or so. Nobara is basically his precious pet project when not doing Red Hat stuff or working on ge-custom.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:14:08 AM No.105750624
>>105750195
>updooters

debian wins again
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:15:22 AM No.105750636
>>105750195
Distro?
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:15:43 AM No.105750639
>>105750504
rsync is widely used for syncing up stuff. Look into cron jobs too to schedule when exactly you want it to happen.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:28:17 AM No.105750713
Screenshot (12)
Screenshot (12)
md5: 1eda694f58ff8f8c66cff9dbca3c21f1๐Ÿ”
i want to try going from using a desktop (xfce) to using a standalone window manager like dwm but i have no idea where to start. do i just install the wm and pick it from the display manager like any other de? how will i know what i'm gonna be missing compared to a de?
Replies: >>105750842 >>105750872
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:41:47 AM No.105750770
>>105743760
You have to be 18 to post here
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:49:22 AM No.105750835
1442760603264
1442760603264
md5: 376635c9e0174cf3862c202a1eab4a99๐Ÿ”
>have dell 3040
>try to install debian on it
>seems fine
>reboot
>goes to some bios screen saying there was issue booting and wants to test my system
What the fuck is going on? And to test my sanity I decided to dual install xubuntu.
>boots into grub just fine
>can even boot into debian
WHAT IS GOING ON?!
Replies: >>105750872
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:50:04 AM No.105750842
>>105750713
A WM by itself will just be a blank screen. You'll need to install all the other parts of it that you would want like a status/task bar, systray, program runner and whatever else you'd want.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:56:15 AM No.105750872
xfce
xfce
md5: dfae4d7a703ebbe183b664eba755ceaf๐Ÿ”
>>105750713
you also lose desktop, workspaces, panel, notifications, etc.
>>105750835
boot the debian installer again and repair uefi
Replies: >>105750883 >>105750885
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:58:53 AM No.105750883
>>105750872
Well you can just have a feh command run at session start to draw your wallpaper, use polybar as the panel and use dunst to get notifications.
Replies: >>105750915
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:59:18 AM No.105750885
>>105750872
>repair uefi
Just to be clear I've done this multiple times and get the same results. Is this just some weird issue where the known solution is to repair the uefi?
Replies: >>105750915
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:06:15 AM No.105750915
>>105750883
that's just a DE with extra steps, which is fine if you're into that
>>105750885
it's a bug in the 3040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ls7xn4qdlk&t=568s
Replies: >>105750969
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:19:22 AM No.105750969
>>105750915
Looking through his video I don't have the same problem. I don't get the "no bootable device" screen, it just goes straight to a testing system screen. Still, I haven't done what he's done so I'll give it a try.
Replies: >>105750995
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:24:06 AM No.105750995
>>105750969
my setup is a bit different (devuan on a usb stick kek) but I was able to boot with those instructions
Replies: >>105751100
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:38:47 AM No.105751062
I feel like gnome is being very hostile towards developers.

Should I switch to KDE, qt and c++?
Replies: >>105752268 >>105752306
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:43:55 AM No.105751088
>>105748342
VSCodium, Kate / KWrite

>>105749372
>>105750466
Bazzite or Nobara. I'd personally go with Bazzite because of Atomic updates.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:46:26 AM No.105751100
>>105750995
Yep, that worked for me. Thanks for showing me. Been looking into other solutions that haven't been working. It's sad this solution isn't brought up in searches.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:49:27 AM No.105751121
>>105736470
Anyone?
Please?
Replies: >>105751223
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:08:19 AM No.105751223
>>105751121
Check your xset settings? (if on x11)

xset q
xset q | grep "auto repeat"

etc.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:16:47 AM No.105751262
file
file
md5: 83959d953921cb61e8293f48f73453bb๐Ÿ”
So THIS is why my computer can't wake from sleep...
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:32:58 AM No.105751345
images
images
md5: 97f12d62cd41babcdc68602afb5be3dd๐Ÿ”
I've played around with different distros in VM's for several years for fun but only on the surface so I just have some basic knowledge but figured it was time to migrate and give it a go for real but before installing, I'm a bit hesitant about the whole separate /home partition thing. I understand that the main concept is that you can nuke your system partition when re-installing, trying different distros ect. but what are the actual benefits of keeping a separate home partition? You will obviously keep all your personal files, documents etc. but what about everything else? Settings? Configurations? Installed software? I assume it can/will cause conflicts if you keep everything on a /home partition while installing a different distro but will it actually work well even when re-installing the _same_ OS or can it still cause issues, missing symlinks etc. ? If you have setup certain software settings they likely require certain software and/or dependencies to function properly meaning you will basically have to create a 1:1 re-install anyway to be able to just keep sailing on the same configs etc....?
Replies: >>105751355 >>105751373 >>105751405 >>105752091
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:34:37 AM No.105751355
>>105751345
All the configs that appears in your /home's .config folder (which is most of the ones you'd want to change yourself) will be saved, just system wide stuff won't.
Replies: >>105751411
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:38:25 AM No.105751373
>>105751345
>even when re-installing the _same_ OS
That's not a problem, even if you miss some packages the configs will just sit there doing nothing
>Settings? Configurations? Installed software?
systemwide settings will be nuked
> I assume it can/will cause conflicts
It totally can, you already can get that with distupgrades.

I dunno why people love it, but I also don't distrohop
Replies: >>105751411
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:43:37 AM No.105751405
>>105751345
Don't do a separate home partition. .config and one or two other folders will migrate the whole system.
Also filling your / when /home has plenty of space wil make you feel so retarded.
Replies: >>105752306
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:44:52 AM No.105751411
>>105751355
I understand that but won't it cause issues anyway since the settings are tied to a certain preset (built on specific packages etc). ? Let's say I have a juicy config file stored under ~/.config, what is the point of keeping it if I still need to configure software, install additional packages etc. to be able to use it again? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here but people make it sound like you can just re-install your base OS and then be back to where you were but that doesn't seem to be the case so what's the point...? Of course it helps having a form of backup of your configs as a "cheat sheet" but isn't it easier to just backup your config files so you have something to base the new config on since you'll have to make modifications to the base OS anyway in order to keep using the same configs?
>>105751373
>the configs will just sit there doing nothing
Then what is the point? Is it just used as a reference to facilitate the new setup?
Replies: >>105751425 >>105751428
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:46:22 AM No.105751425
>>105751411
It's mostly used as a way to easily distrohop for people that do that.
Replies: >>105751449
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:47:09 AM No.105751428
>>105751411
The point is that you have the config when you install the package. It's the same as deleting and later reinstalling the package without purging the config.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:51:28 AM No.105751449
>>105751425
So those people might as well just backup their Hyprland config or whatever to a different partition, cloud service, e-mail it to themselves etc. and call it a day instead of having a whole partition dedicated to it? Perhaps my usage deviates from what is considered normal but I don't keep any personal files or anything on my current (Windows) system drive anyway so formating C: and re-installing ins't a big deal for me so maybe that's why I can't really see the benefits of a dedicated /home partition. I guess it's a different thing if you tend to keep all your documents, photos etc. on the same partition.
Replies: >>105751473
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:51:54 AM No.105751455
>>105741698
No reason why you cant run a lightweight distro on a beefy machine
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 8:54:59 AM No.105751473
>>105751449
I've seen a bunch of people upload their dotfiles to either public or private git repos, like a cloud storage service.
Replies: >>105751680
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:02:17 AM No.105751514
>>105747766
>windows install
>light
lmao
Replies: >>105751526
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:03:44 AM No.105751525
>>105750466
>memedistro, memedistro, or memedistro?
The absolute state
Nobody uses any of these
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:03:53 AM No.105751526
>>105751514
I mean customized ISOs like Tiny10/Tiny11 are pretty damn light.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:22:32 AM No.105751612
Question, my laptop running Ubuntu 20.04 just died. If I buy the same model I can just put the old boot drive in it and it should just work right?
Replies: >>105751620 >>105752258 >>105752306
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:23:45 AM No.105751620
>>105751612
Should do yeah.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 9:34:53 AM No.105751680
>>105751473
Side note: instead of keeping separate / and/home partitions, isn't it possible to just delete the root directory and then re-install an OS there or is it just considered messy? / is just a folder anyway so theoretically deleting it (or rather its contents) and installing a new OS in the same folder should give you the same result? As long as you don't recursively delete everything it should, at least in theory, offer the same result?
Replies: >>105751918 >>105752232
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:20:00 AM No.105751918
>>105751680
Better to just recreate the filesystem with mkfs.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:55:11 AM No.105752091
>>105751345
>separate /home
This is a must when you dual-boot two Linux installations. For example, I test new Kubuntu versions before they are released, and if there are major issues then I simply boot into the old release and try again a week later.
Can't do this without a separate /home, be it a partition or a sub volume or a logical volume.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:15:48 AM No.105752193
Been trying to install Debian for a minute, but each time I get to the last part where it installs grub it keeps coming back with an error executing grub-install dummy menu
Replies: >>105752245
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:20:36 AM No.105752214
So devuan is just debian + init changed? There are no other changes? So each time there's an debian release, I can't expect devuan to follow up quickly. So that means the project will survive as long as debian since it's easy to maintain?
Replies: >>105753381
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:23:48 AM No.105752232
>>105751680
It's even easier to just copy the contents of /home to an external drive, reinstall and copy it back.
Replies: >>105752382
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:26:40 AM No.105752242
Am I going to lose out on anything if I stick with Solus as my daily driver? So far it seems pretty great.
Replies: >>105752505
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:27:19 AM No.105752245
>>105752193
check if your installer ISO is corrupted by comparing the checksum, and cleanly format your entire drive.
Also make sure your installer boots in EFI mode and secure boot is disabled in BIOS.
Replies: >>105752434
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:29:34 AM No.105752258
>>105751612
lots of laptops have different hardware under the hood despite being the same general model. But normally, it should just work with Linux. You may need to reinstall the kernel so it can detect your hardware and activate the necessary modules.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:31:00 AM No.105752268
>>105751062
no, unless you personally have issues with Gnome that affect you.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:38:05 AM No.105752306
>>105751612
It will work without any issues even if you buy a different laptop, or a desktop.
It is highly unlikely that you'll encounter any issues.

>>105751405
>Don't do a separate home partition. .config and one or two other folders will migrate the whole system
Very stupid advice. Please engage brain, this will result in data loss.

>>105751062
Switching purely due to politics isn't the best idea. This being said, KDE is very good.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:41:39 AM No.105752324
>>105750397
stockholm syndrome on display

>>105750397
So why doesn't it come enabled by default, if it's that easy?
Because it doesn't work correctly.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:51:28 AM No.105752382
>>105752232
Isnโ€™t the whole purpose of a separate /home to avoid having to do this? I have a 4TB SSD and will mainly use it for gaming so I guess Iโ€™ll just give / like 200GB and set the rest up as /home to avoid having to re-install TB's worth of games.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:52:38 AM No.105752390
Can I bake at pg8?
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:57:54 AM No.105752434
>>105752245
I tried both Rufus and balenaetcher and it results in the same errors. Have secure boot off too, and formated the USB drive.

I don't think it works well with separate drive installations, so I might just drop trying out Debian for the time being
Replies: >>105752825
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:05:28 PM No.105752505
>>105752242
Long time since I tried it but back then it was basically Ike Dohertys private project so youโ€™re heavily reliant on him maintaining it and I remember there being discussions about it a few years ago. Perhaps the dev team has changed since then but if you mostly use it for Budgie you can install it in basically any distro and there are many preconfigured Budgie spins/flavors available as wellwell.
Replies: >>105752539
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:10:27 PM No.105752539
>>105752505
Not sure which other distro to try. I was using EndeavourOS, but it started refusing to update for some reason I couldn't parse. Guess I could migrate my steam games to my large media drive and try out the Budgie spin of Fedora, but I'm not sure how good that is for gaming.
Replies: >>105752557 >>105752781
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:13:59 PM No.105752557
>>105752539
Actually how is Void Linux would that work fine for my needs while still being fun?
Replies: >>105752574 >>105753401
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:17:13 PM No.105752574
>>105752557
>Void Linux
There's no KDE edition, and while I'm sure you can install it later, I'd rather just have it from the beginning.
Replies: >>105752586
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:18:34 PM No.105752586
>>105752574
I'd be using Budgie cause I prefer it. I'm just wondering if it has the necessary packages to make a functional budgie system.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:48:42 PM No.105752781
>>105752539
Fedora is one of the best options for gaming as itโ€™s very frequently updated compared to many other distros while still maintaining general stability and good QC (for a testing bed).
Replies: >>105752884
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:54:08 PM No.105752825
>>105752434
Sounds like a corrupted ISO. It happens once in a while. This is why they tell you to verify the checksum before installation, which no one ever does.
Replies: >>105753277
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:05:33 PM No.105752884
>>105752781
Yeah I'm thinking I'll just do Fedora with Budgie. Void seems a bit more complicated than I have time for right now.
Replies: >>105753430
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:08:27 PM No.105753277
>>105752825
>want to switch to linux
>have an ancient PC that refuses to boot from USB
>have to burn a dvd
>burn to a dvd-rw
>play with the live iso
>everything is fine
>start installing
>stuck at 72% for a couple of hours
>decide it crashed
>restart the installation
>gets stuck at 72% again
>search online for clues
>try verifying in the menu
>checksum error
>re-burn the dvd
>try verifying the burn
>fails
>verify the iso file
>fine
>turns out the disc had a bad sector
>try a different disc
>everything works
>try installing again
>goes from 71% to 73% so fast I have whiplash
>been here ever since
Replies: >>105753287 >>105753411 >>105753940
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:10:00 PM No.105753287
>>105753277
>been here ever since
You're still stuck on 73%?
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:20:52 PM No.105753381
>>105752214
its debian + systemd-less dependencies
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:23:41 PM No.105753401
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>>105752557
Void devs are mentally ill and i would avoid the whole distro
I say this as someone currently using it and only havent gone off it due to laziness
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:24:45 PM No.105753411
>>105753277
You can use plop bootloader to load usb isos instead of having to burn a dvd every time
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:27:36 PM No.105753430
>>105752884
Thereโ€™s a principal within the FOSS community called KISS (keep it simple, stupid). The beauty of Linux is that it can be as simple or as complicated as you want it to be. Do you want a great experience OOTB? Great, hereโ€™s distro X. Do you want to build LFS? Go right ahead. Unfortunately a lot of people have jumped on the 1337 bandwagon which highly revolves around status without even asking themselves "why?" or "what do I want to achieve?". A lot of people use and even recommend various distros purely for clout when itโ€™s not even close to being appropriate for the specific user requesting advice.

Iโ€™m not calling you out or anything and thatโ€™s not the point of my post, I just see so many people instantly jumping into the deep end for the sake of being advanced. Thereโ€™s absolutely nothing wrong with choosing something simple and thereโ€™s absolutely nothing wrong with choosing something advanced either as long as itโ€™s appropriate for you and fits your needs. Thereโ€™s a huge gap between Solus and Void but no one should feel the need to try edgy distros just to fit in, weโ€™re a very warm and welcoming community in general regardless of whether you run Ubuntu or Gentoo. :)
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:36:59 PM No.105753512
New thread:
>>105753496
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:31:57 PM No.105753940
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>>105753277
Been there. Burn a minimal DVD and do a minimal installation.
>>105749374
You basically made a pick between Debian and Red Hat.