Thread 105739342

Unity was good, I'm tired of pretending it wasn't. It was easily in the top 5 DE's when it was released and officially maintained.

agreed, it's still the single desktop environment that had actually usable and good touchscreen support.
also the window menu in the title was amazing use of space, and when combined with search it still beats literally everything else in usability

>>105739342 (OP)
Terry liked it, it was probably decent.

>>105739342 (OP)
Its just Gnome with some tweaks. Its still the same shit show that Gnome is. I'll never understand why people think Unity is something magically better then the trash it's based on.

Agreed.

>>105739342 (OP)
What happened to the fork developed by that Indian kid?

>>105739487
>it's just gnome
nigger the whole unity engine was built on top of Qt and compiz. the only gnome in there was nautilus, totem, and evolution.
it failed because faggots like you fud'd it to death

>>105739342 (OP)
if you need touchscreen support you should go back to your mobilefagshit aidsOS

>>105739399
>smart enough to code os, lang, compiler, apps from scratch
>not smart enough to get uefi working
>is forced to run os in vmware workstation on ubuntu instead

>>105739524
Could have fooled me, considering its NOT QT based, and instead uses GTK for it's toolkit. And it has all of the same shitty drawbacks of GTK like the god awful file picker.

>>105739643
Nigga that's a modern Unity fork, SYBAU were talking about officially maintained unity back in 2014.

>>105739342 (OP)
Yeah it was good, had all the good bits from compiz (in terms of actual usability, no senseless shit), plus an actual ui on top that made sense in all regards. Unfortunately wad not a redhat project and by so deemed to be kil- ..i mean, failure.

>>105739342 (OP)
It was so good (((they))) had to kill it and replace it with fucking GNOME 3.0 shit.

>>105739342 (OP)
Canonical had something great going on, but after ditching Unity, abandoning Ubuntu Touch and pushing Snaps so much, I can't help but feel extremely let down by them...

>>105739699
>>105739524
There were beta builds of Unity that were Qt-based, but the Unity desktop environment Ubuntu shipped, and that everyone in here is referring to, has always relied on GTK and a variety of GNOME components.

The version of Unity being used in the official Ubuntu Unity spin, is a direct continuation of the code-base used for Unity in 2014 (which continued to receive updates from Canonical well past that). You are thinking about the Qt fork of Unity for mobile, which is now known as Lomiri.

Tldr: You are either retarded, or desperately need to work on your reading comprehension.

See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(user_interface)
https://gitlab.com/ubuntu-unity/unity/unity
https://gitlab.com/ubuntu-unity/unity-x
https://pkgs.org/search/?q=unity-desktop

>>105739643
You are correct.

Unity is pretty garbage but gotta admit that its iconic

>>105739342 (OP)
It's not bad, but I like the old one

everything good about canonical collapsed under the weight of their own unmaintainable jeetcode (boercode?)
unity was such a fucking mess that getting it to compile on any distro other than ubuntu was almost impossible

>>105740262
That's not Unity. That is simply Ubuntu's config of GNOME 2, but yes, it was comfy.

>>105740274
https://gitlab.com/unity-for-arch

>>105740005
Unity2d was written in c++ and QML and shipped with the official Ubuntu iso.

https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/tree/

>>105739342 (OP)
One great thing about Unity was that it had a unique identity. It was/is the face of Linux for a good reason. Every DE these days is trying too hard to be MacOS/Windows, which makes sense for newbies but it doesn't inspire confidence because most people who want MacOS/Windows will just use MacOS/Windows.

>>105740659
It was never the default session, and the environment heavily relied on GTK components as well.

>>105739634
UEFI is the spawn of the antichrist.
BIOS+MBR chads stay winning.

>>105739342 (OP)
it was also very recognisable. KDE is great but looks like Windows; GNOME is shit and looks like iOS

panel on left side sucks and the top bar had that per application menu shit. also the window buttons merged with the diseased top bar. idk i think its rose tinted glasses.

I remember when Canonical got pressured by the community to abandon Unity.. the general hivemind was:

>maybe Canonical will fix Gnome

Spoilers: Gnome ended up fucking Canonical.

Kubuntu has succeeded Unity at this point starting with 25.04, but yes, Unity was a phenomenal DE design- highly productive and extremely fast (compiz).

I miss it sometimes, but it's just not as polished as KDE 6 nowadays, so I don't look back.

>>105739520
It's here:
https://unityd.org/

>>105739643
So much fucking space wasted

>>105739342 (OP)
>amazon

>>105742208
meds

>>105740005
>The version of Unity being used in the official Ubuntu Unity spin, is a direct continuation of the code-base used for Unity in 2014
Didn't it literally get handed off to a 12yo Pajeet?

>>105742595
he's 29 now, time flies

>>105739342 (OP)
Unity was shit. They should have stuck with Gnome 2.

>>105739342 (OP)
unity was decent
but what about mir? what did we lost bc of redhat presure?

gentlemen, i have, until now, continuously expressed the opinion that this desktop environment is inferior, as a means of receiving acceptance from your group. however, i now admit that i have in fact been dishonest about it and have grown tired of keeping up this facade. i now declare this desktop environment to be superior.

>>105743111
I remember thinking this looked like a toy version of Windows, and nowadays Windows makes this look like heaven.

>>105743111
yes but more like this

Karmic Koala was peak Ubuntu

>>105743111
Did Gnome 2 have thumbnails in the file picker?

>>105743111

lmao

>>105739342 (OP)
Ubuntu never should have dropped the orange/brown thing. It was iconic.

>>105745088
Yes it looks silly with those 2 bars but it actually had the option to fully customize them you dumbfuck

>>105745106

Let me guess, they were trying to be different when that taskbar could have been a dock kek

>>105745264
Unironically no, they weren't trying to be different, GNOME2 was a fully customizable desktop and it was pretty fast as well

>>105744891
See for yourself

>>105745264
It was trying to superficially be OS X while lacking all the stuff that actually matters.

>>105745324
>any desktop interface with a fixed top bar is trying to be OS X
No.

>>105745291

Well it seems like at least it had tray icon support, cant be said for later Gnome.

>>105739613
making things arbitrarily difficult doesnt make you an interesting person

>>105745354
It literally was and people even amde the claim that GNOME was like Mac and KDE was like Windows back then (due to default two bar config, vs default one bar). Does it sound retarded? Yes, of course. But I was there, people literally unironically said that shit, including the gnome dev fags.

Have any other DE's done the Mac-style taskbar that incorporates the global application menu? That was the one feature I really liked in Unity but it seems like no one's been able to replicate it, besides a semi-functional XFCE plugin.

>>105745891
kde plasma has it as a widget

>>105745454
>But I was there
So was I.

>people literally unironically said that shit
Yes, completely retarded tweens.

>including the gnome dev fags
No, no they did not. Show me any proof of a pre-GTK3 GNOME developer touting GNOME 2 as similar to OS X.

>>105740857
it was not the default but you could choose it from the login screen by just clicking on a drop-down list.

linux's fate was sealed when canonical abandoned MIR and Unity

I can't remember what it was like, really..

>>105745891
Plasma can do this but it's buggy (lol) and not universally supported, which makes it pointless.
It's fucking stupid anyway. MacOS has the most aggressively mediocre UX of any desktop.

>>105746040
lel, unlike you i was there back then. it was an attempt by canonical to take control of linux desktop from redhat but they failed. you guys forgot everything but canonical was really trying hard for other distributions to not be able to adopt unity or mir.

>>105739399
>Terry liked it
I've never seen anything where he said he liked it, he was just using it because it was a free way for him to get VMWare working. He said multiple times that to him, using Linux to run Temple OS was like using Internet Explorer to install Firefox.

terry was a barely functioning schizophrenic lunatic who got bullied into suicide by g

why are you guys still sucking him off so much

unity screenshots always remind me of terry the king

>>105745992
>No, no they did not. Show me any proof of a pre-GTK3 GNOME developer touting GNOME 2 as similar to OS X.
Yeah sure just let me pull up my archive of gnome faggotry from 20 years ago lol

it was kinda cool, if there was a DE that did not deserve to die, it was Unity

>>105746619
You clearly weren't around then. GNOME was nothing like it is now, GNOME development was nothing like it is now, and Red Hat was nothing like it is now:
https://web.archive.org/web/20050102092012/https://www.gnome.org/

Footfaggotry, as we know it today, only started taking root around 2009, but they did not begin to go 'mask off' until 2011, following the first release of GNOME 3. Then, with IBM acquiring Red Hat 7 years later, GNOMEniggers reached peak hubris, and hit a point of no return.

>>105746752
Gone has been full of faggotry for a very long time, I switched to KDE when they begin to go full retard with stupid shit like "spatial browsing" in nautilus (opening new windows everywhere) and removing options from everything because the devs assumed the userbase was as dumb as they were (like in gAIM, removing all the buttons and options to be replaced with a single giant 'send' button). Back in the KDE 3 days.

>>105746791
It's funny how you mention none of this until a wayback machine link is posted, but comparing dumb defaults like spatial browsing (which could always be disabled through gSettings), or removing a couple of buttons from gAIM's chat window (even though gAIM — now Pidgin — has always been remarkably extensible and configurable), with the tragedy that has unfolded since GNOME 3, is highly exaggerative.

GNOME 2 remained an extraordinarily configurable and capable DE until it was put out to pasture (MATE would not exist as a project if many early GNOME users and developers did not feel this way), and developing for GNOME was nowhere near as restrictive and contentious as it is now.

I ran a computing fundamentals class for seniors at the local learning annex in the early 2000s, and exclusively used GNOME 2 during that time, because of how thoroughly it could be configured and themed for different types of users. Under GNOME 2, I was easily able to teach dozens and dozens of elderly people how to safely browse the web and exchange e-mails with Mozilla Suite, and compose documents in AbiWord.

They had no problem picking any of this up because of how friendly and accessible the UI could be made with just a few changes and the right themes. This would be nearly impossible today using GNOME 3 or GNOME 4, and they would shit themselves in confusion. There really is no comparison. GNOME 2 was great, while GNOME 3 and up has been a horror show.

>>105744891
>muh thumbnails
usecase?

>>105745088
It looks retarded but once you actually sit there and use it for a bit it starts to make sense and feels good to use.

>>105739520
It's still around but barely functional. Half the unity specific features that made unity good no longer work and it's a hacked together piece of shit thats about to fall apart any day now. Half the dash lenses no longer work. It relies on a hacky gtk3-nocsd library to get global menus to show up, even then it's largely useless now that more and more things are migrating to GTK4/libadwaita. The library fucks with other programs somehow like wine, which I couldnt get working because of it. Unity is dead and gone and its unbelievable how it's really still an "official flavor" of Ubuntu. You are way better off just taking GNOME or KDE and styling it to look like Unity did.

>>105747858
In short: GNOME killed Unity and will kill other gtk based desktops in the future when more programs are forced to move to GTK4/libadwaita, which are largely incompatible with other gtk desktops like xfce/mate unless a huge amount of work is done. GNOME wants to be special so badly they are willing to kill the other desktops to do it.

>>105747884
Canonical killed unity by trying to have it exclusive to Ubuntu. Quickly, no other distribution wanted to touch it then gnome 3 came as a savior.

>>105747908
And GNOME is going to do the same thing on the GTK level. Do you honestly expect xfce or mate to adapt to GTK4 and libadwaita? LXDE saw the signs early and jumped ship to Qt.