according to Grok Microsoft is cracking down on every workaround there is and you will be forced to use their dogshit 365 garbage dumpsterfire


my PC. the last remaining safe haven that is purely about me. where i make all the rules. I am not letting my private life become a live fucking session.
I hope all big tech companies get upended by by AI and die bloody, horrible deaths

that includes the place where I work: ******


linux isnt that bad, right folks?

>>105742399 (OP)
Still better than linux

>>105742399 (OP)
Linux isn’t bad at all, but you reliance and refusal (understandably) to use alternatives to windows only programs will likely dictate how well your experience will go.
Adobe is the literal devil on Earth but people still slurp it because they have 20 years with it. And most refuse to use Gimp and so on.

and another baby duck schizo is born

you can use a local account with win 11pro. just choose "setup for an organization" or something like that. I believe that Rufus also lets you choose this so no, this is not true. People cant into computers that's all

>>105742399 (OP)
>Microsoft is cracking down on every workaround there is and you will be forced to use their dogshit 365 garbage dumpsterfire
I've installed Windows 11 Pro and Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC (not IoT) in the past week or so - I didn't notice any attempt to stop me from making a local account. I was able to do so without problems on install. You can also remove the Office 365 stuff on Pro by uninstalling it or running ShutUp10++ - or just use LTSC or IoT LTSC.
>linux isnt that bad, right folks?
Linux is Basically Fine™ for use.
>>105742477 - this

>>105742471
and so another brown reddit post is made

At work they forcibly upgraded my PC to Win11. So far it seems totally regressive. I right-click "open with" to open an image with Paint because it lacks an extension. Paint isn't an option. I pick "choose program" and it wants the location of the program, so I go around looking for where paint.exe is located, however, when I right click on a file there is no "Show in Folder" option. I guess they don't want us knowing about directories anymore. So I had to do it the ass-backwards way and open paint.exe off a shortcut, and then open the file from the Paint menu. What else did they break

>>105742399 (OP)
>I am not letting my private life become a live fucking session
This is exactly what they want and they'll drive the consumer market to a thin client user model. Microsoft are the gayest cunts ever, not only do they keep making these awful decisions that invade peoples privacy, the features they're releasing are dog shit and developed by jeets. I will be opting out of the computing world and spend my life touching grass fuck this shit.

>>105742399 (OP)
Microsoft will never be able to fully implement mandatory Microsoft accounts for Win11 because schools and businesses will want local or network user accounts for administration and security purposes. The moment Microsoft takes that away, those organizations will switch to Linux where setting up those kind of accounts for everyone on a network can be done with a simple script.

version number must go up
code must be changed
colors must change
if Windows were smart they would take 5 years to create a new OS and offer a built-in old Windows VM for backwards compatability when it is needed. and then just never touch the old Windows shit again, unless needed for security fixes and what not.
this will never happen tho, because too many Microsoft employees would no longer have any use.

>>105742560
false, because they wont' take it away without providing a cloud-only replacement for it.

like, you host your datacentre in Azure now, so therefore you can use an administrator account in Entra ID which manages the devices thru config manager. they will argue you do not need local permissions anymore. they'll eventually stop offering self-support of the OS layer in the IaaS model

>>105742399 (OP)
Just deployed about 80 laptops to Win11 with WDS+MDT, no faggy online accounts included whatsoever

>>105742561
i read theyre about to have mass layoffs

>>105742399 (OP)
>I am not letting my private life become a live fucking session.
What do you have to hide, mr Pedo?

>>105742399 (OP)
not sure, but i'm using Linux Mint now. So who cares.

That feeling when you click your simple flip-phone into its craddle next to your pc while starting up Linux mint. It feels so fucking liberating bro's...

>>105742399 (OP)
linux is not bad
it's just that you've used windows for so many years and refuse to step out and learn a new OS

Let me hijack this thread:

It seems like, android is the last corpo OS, which can be used completely without an account? And how long will it stay this way?

>>105742812
every major OS partitions stuff into user accounts. in case of android/linux, your root is your local account. it wont let you touch it unless you have su.

My favorite Windows 11 feature is super cool AI and cloud connected New Paint

>>105742399 (OP)
Just prepare bootable USB stick using Rufus. It allows you to get rid of hardware requirements, microsoft account requirement and even disable default device encryption. It requires no skill and has nice graphical user interface. Alternatively, you can install ioT LTSC. Not only it will have no such requirements like this at the first place, but it will also have longer security updates, up to 2032. Windows ISOs as well as free activator can be found on massgrave's website.
https://rufus.ie
https://massgrave.dev

This issue really is bad. I admin computers for a 150 employee company with a lot of laptops naturally. Microsoft will update computers and force to use a microsoft account. Users don't have personal mailboxes or personal microsoft accounts because they are expensive in large numbers. Using microsoft accounts thus is not a viable option. Fucking sucks.

I would use Linux for the laptops since I already admin about 100 Ubuntu machines but holy fucking shit it's always so full of retarded bugs that get ignored by developers.

You can use it with a local account still. Instead of asking Grok you should have used a search engine. There are two workarounds in use right now. MS is killing off the first one but you can still use the other even if you end up with an updated installer.

Stop hurting yourself and install 10 LTSC instead. Or better yet Linux.

>>105742966
Rufus does have a checkbox for local account but it doesn't work. You still need to do the workaround. I've done multiple 11 installs (for other people, of course).

>>105742399 (OP)
You can but you need to set it up dummy
Before you install windows and pick language press shift +F10 then type in oobe/bypassnro (I think it’s in caps) and you good.

>>105742409
>people still slurp it because they have 20 years with it. And most refuse to use Gimp and so on.
That's not true at all, the last time I used GIMP on windows it was slow and buggy as hell, had it been better I would have kept using just like I use any other software.
It's the same reason why I stopped using Adobe products within the last few years after they went full on clouds and crap.

Speaking of Windows 11, is there a surefire way to get rid of Copilot and all the AI shit?

>>105743520
nuke regedit

I installed win11 a long time ago and never had to sign in with anything. It pesters me about 365-something or online backup once in a while, but I just click "no".

>>105742399 (OP)
>linux isnt that bad, right folks?
It actually isnt. Nowadays it works right out of the box. You can also do quite a lot with it if you are not afraid of search engines

You could always see if pic related would work
>esp after finding out this one doesn't work >>105743219

>>105743520
Yes, air gap.

Has open source nerds made an C++ IDE that is as good as Visual Studio+Visual Assist? Would be nice to finally ditch windows.

>>105744090
What's that?

>>105743708
Is that some sort of new age "delete system32 folder" meme?

>>105742399 (OP)
I heard about the AI snapshot shit and something about a built in keylogger but idk if the last bit is true, I think I'll need to use Linux just because Windows keeps getting worse.

>>105744811
As long as you don't need specific applications that only run on Windows it's the way to go. I switched late last year and I have no regrets.

>>105742399 (OP)
>LOOK AT THIS TOTALY FAKE BULLSHIT IM SPAMMING AS FACT
why haven't you killed yourself already nigger?

>>105744241
Kek sort of, it's called VSCode and it works in Linux

>>105742399 (OP)
I am doing it at this very moment

>>105745183
VSCode is not the same as Visual Studio.

>>105742399 (OP)
>linux isnt that bad, right folks?
If you have a paying job and you value your time then stay the fuck away from that amateur software that is being maintained by literally mentally ill people.

>>105743088
It worked just fine last time I tried althoughbeit. but yeah, you can do the terminal workaround if rufus wont work.

>>105742399 (OP)
I just upgraded my Windows 10 that only had a local account to Windows 11 and it didn't ask me to sign up, but I see that I also have Windows 11 Pro, so I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it.
This is my work computer; I still plan to get a new machine that runs windows as my primary personal computer before support for Windows 10 is dropped.

>>105742399 (OP)
I don't believe it. Just make an answer file (https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/). That solves that and other problems for you.
>>105742560
this, I don't believe they would take that away. They would be kill in any organization and institution.

>>105742399 (OP)
>my PC

Where have you been? It's been renamed to "This PC."

>>105745011
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>>105742399 (OP)
I just use the built-in admin account

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>>105742406
Windows 10-11 beginner list

1. Install Linux
2. Virtual machine
3. Offline install Win10-11 version of choice
4. Download tools from Linux host
5. Disable and debloat OFFLINE
6. Run a sniffer (ex wireshark) and add firewall rules to whatever you couldn't disable

>>105742399 (OP)
That’s why you switch to steam OS on your gayman rig (or drop PC gaming entirely) and get a Mac mini for your general purpose computing

>>105744074
Is it possible to do this after windows 11 has been installed?

Make win 10 local then update that directly to win11. Noob bix nood
>>105742477
Your stupid gayfus can' t do anythinf you can't do.

>>105746865
>steam

Steam is what happens when water evaporates

>>105745571
wagies at my workplace squeal about windows 11 and msteams barely working (performance issues and bugs. devs get macbooks so it's not that bad)

>>105746535
Do games run well on VM?

>>105746881
Yeah
I did it on my mom's new laptop last week

>>105742399 (OP)
When you have a fresh install of Windows 11, disconnect from ethernet, hit Shift+F10 and it brings up a command prompt, then type 'OOBE\BYPASSNRO'... it will let you say that you don't have an internet connection and use a local account.
It is absolute fucking bullshit that they make us do this. I work for an MSP and we update/preload machines before we ship them out to clients.

using windows in 2025
>First go into the command line and type an arcane spell, then go into the registry and hope an update doesn't revert it, then run these dozen scripts to disable retarded spyware features, but doing so breaks the OS because basic functionality is re-written to be dependent on the spyware, THEN after all that windows will just install all the bloat again and enable all the spyware again at the next update
Using Linux in 2025
>install mint or some other easy distro
>just werks, has a GUI for everything
Why do people still cling to windows?

>>105742399 (OP)

>>105744552
>What's that?
Don't bring your system online

i dont even care anymore i just use my xbox account and occasionally get gamespass