/lmg/ - a general dedicated to the discussion and development of local language models.

Previous threads: >>105734070 & >>105725967

►News
>(06/27) VSCode Copilot Chat is now open source: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-copilot-chat
>(06/27) Hunyuan-A13B released: https://hf.co/tencent/Hunyuan-A13B-Instruct
>(06/26) Gemma 3n released: https://developers.googleblog.com/en/introducing-gemma-3n-developer-guide
>(06/21) LongWriter-Zero, RL trained ultra-long text generation: https://hf.co/THU-KEG/LongWriter-Zero-32B
>(06/20) Magenta RealTime open music generation model released: https://hf.co/google/magenta-realtime

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►Text Gen. UI, Inference Engines
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https://github.com/theroyallab/tabbyAPI
https://github.com/vllm-project/vllm

►Recent Highlights from the Previous Thread: >>105734070

--Skepticism toward roleplay finetunes' effectiveness and quality degradation concerns:
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--Critique of domain overfitting and reliance on web-connected agent models undermining local usability:
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--Challenges and potential of LLM-driven interactive gameplay mechanics in games like Silverpine:
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--Running multiple large AI models on limited VRAM causes stability issues:
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--Tradeoffs between generalist and specialist LLMs:
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--Claude's mixed performance managing a vending shop in Anthropic's Project Vend experiment:
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--Evaluating language models on chess960 gameplay reveals tokenizer and capability limitations:
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--Exploring the future of LLM-driven dynamic gameplay mechanics and scalability challenges:
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--Enthusiasm and skepticism around Etched Sohu's performance and accessibility:
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--Meta continues aggressive talent acquisition by hiring multiple OpenAI researchers:
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--ERNIE 4.5 model support added to llama.cpp:
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--Miku (free space):
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►Recent Highlight Posts from the Previous Thread: >>105734076

Why?: 9 reply limit >>102478518
Fix: https://rentry.org/lmg-recap-script

mikusex

Hunyuan will save local

sex with drawings

>nvidia is planning a new line of super products for its 50 series

>the rumors suggest that the new 5070 ti super and 5080 super will have 24gb of vram


So it sounds like we will finally be able to retire our old 3090s soon or at least I will since the only reason I kept mine was for the vram and the increased speeds of the 50 series will be a nice upgrade

Sex with pixels and tokens that have a high conditional probability given the string "big booba".

>>105744028
There were issues with the 50-series drivers.
Is that now cleared up?

>>105744028
A 5070 with 24GB would be good if the price is right. I skipped getting a 3090, figuring that it's too old by now.

>>105744028
Please sell your 3090s for cheap please please

If some of you faggots are wondering, ik_llama has windows binaries here but it's slightly old
>https://github.com/Thireus/ik_llama.cpp/releases

>>105744028
i will wait for the 48gb intel b60.

>>105741203
Imminent draft, good luck burger bros!

>>105743959
>>105739539
zatsune

>>105744028
>So it sounds like we will finally be able to retire our old 3090s soon
Yeah, sell it to me and get your overheating bill eating garbage for the same amount of VRAM.

>>105744200
I kinda want to get one for image gen, shit's slow on my 3090s

>>105744200
>Yeah, sell it to me and get your overheating bill eating garbage for the same amount of VRAM.

isn't the 3090 kinda infamous for the amount of power it uses that they fixed with the 40 series, or am I remembering wrong

>>105744344
No, it only went up from there. 3090 24gb (350W) -> 4090 24gb (450W) -> 5090 32gb (600W)

>>105744363
yeah but we are comparing the 3090 to the 5070 and 5080 and the 5070 ti uses 300 W so it would actually use LESS power than the old 3090s

What are the ethical implications of creating a waifu robot using a computer with human neurons?

>>105744383
Wyell, I'm already limiting my 3090s to 200w, and the speed isn't really an issue for me. Well, it is, but even limited, the 3090s are fast enough for my purposes. What I need is vram. Power efficiency is good, yes, but only to a point, and I feel like it isn't worth it compared to cheap vram.

>>105744028
I won't believe it until I see it.

>>105744404
At a certain point, it seems like it would be simpler to just grow a test tube baby wife.

>>105744404
unsafe, unethical and banned, but forcing those same neurons to endlessly compute science and math is going to be just fine

>>105744028
>same bandwidth
>more expensive
More of a sidegrade, but I guess good to have when 3090 stock dries up for good

>>105744404
>human neurons
A cyborg cat would be better.

>>105744363
The issue with the 30 series is that it spikes to twice the amps when entering boost mode. Although brief, your PSU should be somewhat more beefier than required. If four cards do this simultaneously, they can easily trip a 2kW PSU. Had to cut boost clocks for this exact reason in my build

>>105744476
What are the symptoms of this happening? Is this what's been plaguing me?

>>105744487
i set mine to 80% power limit and set priority to temp limit in afterburner because otherwise i have a leaf blower in my room

>>105744487
The PC just shuts down or restarts when you open a chat with a long history, and all four start processing the prompt at the same time. This doesn’t happen with TP turned off

>>105744521
Okay, that's not my problem then. phew.

>>105744502
I live in australia in a shitty house that doesn't have aircon. In winter, it's okay, but in summer my fans are perpetually at 100% even with a 200w limit. I guess it doesn't help my case is pretty cramped and airflow is shit.

>>105744502
The power limit does not help with spikes, it is applied after measuring power consumption, by which point the spike has already occurred

>>105744404
>Training involved giving the neurons a “reward” stimulus when they moved the paddle correctly, by applying electrical activity in the form of a sine wave, which the cells like. The “punishment” when they got it wrong was unpleasant white noise.
WTF how is this allowed?

>>105744562
What are the neurons going to do? Rise up and rebel? They're fucking neurons, I could inhale them tens, even hundreds of them, and I wouldn't be any worse for wear.

Fuckers don't deserve rights.

>>105744562
Someone posted a youtube video here recently that attempted to do this at home and get them to play doom. At one point they sprinkled chili powder on the neurons to induce activity.

Do we already have good local voice cloning or are we still stuck in the "pay elevenlabs" era?

>>105744603
We have like 10 local voice cloning things now and all of them are barely better than coqui.

>>105744404
Do we really have no hardware alternatives to living neurons?

>>105744614
We don't even know how neurons work lmao
All the spiking neural networks research are also garbage

>>105744562
>the cells like.
How do they know what the cells "like." Does that mean they form stronger connections with a sine wave?

>>105744625
Yeah that's what I mean. Surely it would be more productive to make something based on the high-level principles rather than fuck with real, actual neurons. But I don't understand how any of this shit works. I just know we have somehow cheesed the process with tensors and graphics cards because those are the tools we have.

>>105743264
Kill yourself you scamming faggot. I was half kidding when I was saying that before and now I am serious. You should kill yourself now.

>>105744609
GRIM

ik_llama enjoyers, explain this

llama_perf_sampler_print: sampling time = 80.96 ms / 27183 runs ( 0.00 ms per token, 335741.81 tokens per second)
llama_perf_context_print: load time = 727698.97 ms
llama_perf_context_print: prompt eval time = 714921.71 ms / 26403 tokens ( 27.08 ms per token, 36.93 tokens per second)
llama_perf_context_print: eval time = 217266.18 ms / 779 runs ( 278.90 ms per token, 3.59 tokens per second)
llama_perf_context_print: total time = 951233.43 ms / 27182 tokens


prompt processing on gerganov's llama.cpp!!!
36.93 tokens per second

>>105744696
Faggot redditor spams and shills his kofi slop here that he can't be bothered to test himself. When people ask him questions about his methods he gets all secretive and offers only empty platitudes. All take and no give.

>>105743953 (OP)
omg it bhikkhu miku!!!

>>105744757
and the tg?

>>105744757
I tried ik_llama-server with IQ Mistral gguf but it loads the model then quits. Whatever.

>>105744787
in the same post for those who can read

>>105744806
you only showed the tg for gg's lcpp

>>105744758
>about his methods he gets all secretive and offers only empty platitudes. All take and no give.
It is not that he is all take and no give. It is that he is a fucking scammer that knows the trash he shits out isn't any better than the model he started with.

>>105744812
>and the tg?
>you only showed the tg

chose one carefully

>>105744844
you only showed the pp for gg's lcpp
sorry aonie

Any free model that can convert a song in wav into a midi track?

>>105744863
>>105744757
>you only showed the pp for gg's lcpp

wrong

>>105744880

>>105744905
Interesting.

>>105744925
yeah so you only showed the pp for gg's lcpp..

>>105744905
Both are gg's llama!!!

I was asking a rhetorical question about the need to ik_llama

>>105744945
Vlad, log in ples

>>105744759
uooohhhh bhikkhunī

>>105744945
Interesting...

>>105744949

>>105744999
Fixed the cumstain on your Y.

>>105744999
ik_llama never run on my system as fast as gg's. Not even fucking close

>>105744609
Bait. The latest gptsovits is elevenlab tier

>>105745063
It does sound effects and moaning?

>>105745072
>sound effects
why do you need a tts to do sound effects?
>moaning
If you provide your own arpabet phoneme sure

So... Hynuyan and Minimax? I am not asking about ggoooof support because obviously but what is the initial impression? Are they censored?

Why can't someone just release something equal to nemo but with longer context? 16k is too small.

>>105744078
those are only going to be sold in systems from 5k-10k.

Which is annoying because theyre rumored to only be 700 dollars or so when you do the math which is amazing for 48gb. Im hoping intel pulls up with something worth too but the a770 was a bit of a letdown (wow 100 bucks off a 4060 who gives a fuck) so far so Im wary.

>>105745252
because you would touch your penis to it.

>>105744625
>We don't even know how neurons work lmao
I*

If i run one of these using more context than I have vram and it runs on normal ram, is there any downside other than speed? like will it make it downsy or unstable or something?

Speaking of that. Nemo released a year ago. I haven't seen any Mistral/Nvidia lawsuits caused by how unsafe it is. I haven't heard of anyone using Nemo to do anything unsafe. I did hear about a lot of people jerking off to it though.

People working on "safety" should die a slow painful death.

>>105745303
nyo

>>105745303
yye

>>105745313
>I haven't heard of anyone using Nemo to do anything unsafe
That's because it's dumb as shit and isn't capable of being useful for 'unsafe' applications.

>>105745303
>is there any downside other than speed?
yes, it will murder your hard drive

>>105745332
I don't have a HDD I have an SSD. So it is fine?

>>105745337
you are fine, I misread your post and thought you mean it will run out of both vram and ram

>>105745313
>Speaking of that. Nemo released a year ago.
Has anything come out to replace it on 24 GB?

>>105745347
no, apologize to LeCun

>>105745347
235B or small 3.2

>>105745369
small 3.2 :/

>>105743953 (OP)
>>105743959
>>105743978
The mikutranny is posting porn in /ldg/:
>>105715769
It was up for hours while anyone keking on troons or niggers gets deleted in seconds, talk about double standards and selective moderation:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/104414999/#q104418525
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/104414999/#q104418574
Here he makes >>105714098 snuff porn of generic anime girl, probably because its not his favorite vocaloid doll and he can't stand that, a war for rights to waifuspam in thread.

Funny /r9k/ thread: https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/81611346/
The Makise Kurisu damage control screencap (day earlier) is fake btw, no matches to be found, see https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105698912/#q105704210 janny deleted post quickly.

TLDR: Mikufag janny deletes everyone dunking on trannies and resident spammers, making it his little personal safespace. Needless to say he would screech "Go back to teh POL!" anytime someone posts something mildly political about language models or experiments around that topic. Confirmed yurifag and /vt/umor (will never beat the 'disgusting and obnoxious tranny' allegations).

And lastly as said in previous thread(s) >>105716637, i would like to close this by bringing up key evidence everyone ignores. I remind you that cudadev has endorsed mikuposting. That's it.
He also endorsed hitting that feminine jart bussy a bit later on.

xis accs
https://x.com/brittle_404
https://x.com/404_brittle
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/97264270
https://civitai.com/user/inpaint/models

>>105745450
take your meds

>>105745450
nobody gives a fuck, take your mental illness somewhere else

>>105745450
Explain why I should care about any of this without sounding mad.

>>105745450
models for this feel?

>>105745450
Imagine you put even one iota of this effort towards making maho gens
tsk tsk. acting in bad faith again.

>>105745450
Snuff porn? What the fuck are you talking about? Your argument isn't very credible if you don't post proof.

>>105745450
>banned after minutes despite him exposing migger jannies posting and keeping up porn on the board purpose for almost 1.5h
uh oh, sisters... maybe if we ban these opinions harder and expose the double standard... they will go away??? kek, ywn
baw

>>105745450

>>105745587
Exposing what?
I'm not believing shit until there's proof >>105745500.

>>105745587
>board purpose
board on purpose

>>105745587
doxxing or any attempt to stalk or leak anon's info is against the rules
>double standard
and yet zero brain

>Look mom, I posted it again!
This shit is getting old

>>105745605
he posted his own links here first, retarded nigger
>double standard
the double standard of keeping posting and keeping his porn up for 1.5h while banning people complaining about it in minutes, vantablack nigger

you will never ever be a woman nor liked by anyone except your raiding trooncord sisters, freak

>>105745500
>>105745598
Click on post you stupid nigger

>>105745450
Maybe if you get thrown out for acting like a retard it's not because they want a personal tranny safespace but because you are acting like a retard.

>>105745625
Okay. So you've just proved that the entire post is most likely fake and gay and twisting facts and half-truths to push an agenda.
>stupid nigger

>>105745450
I've seen a bunch of schizos exactly like you during my cursed years on 4chan with the same posting style and content. I'm not sure what this condition is called but I must study it.

>>105745634
>defends trannies
>"uhmmmm im not a tranny nor would i ever EVER EVER defend trannies online for free on an anonymous forum but you are the bad retard actually, not the people who post off topic spam 24/7 and are literal self admitted agp degenerates. teehee."
brutal retardation

>>105745450
your bbc, scat, gore, and tranny flag spam has also stayed up for hours without being taken down

>>105745674
>no-u
really gottem with that one, xis
kek

>>105745491
>acting in bad faith again.
So, the thing you do all the time?
>>105745663
Ryona, extreme rape or anything around that can fall into snuff porn category, obviously i don't give a shit about differences here.

>>105745625
I'm sorry, was that too triggering for you, princess snowflake? A little bit of bruising remind you of your relationship with your daddy?

>>105745669
you literally spammed an entire thread with reposts

one reply, to engage you, to heat the blood
and then nothing, my goal is to vex you, not actually converse.

>>105745701
I'm sorry you feel that way. Unfortunately, this place is for grown up adults, and you should probably stay on tumblr, where things are safer for children :)

>>105745702
go back to xitter tranny

>>105745711
"I" literally didnt do anything, shizo retard, i know its hard to understand for an agp mentally braindead twinkoid faggot, but there is more than 1 person who dislikes agp gooner spammers on this website

>>105745722
>appeal to "underage poster behind the screen" argument
Way to out yourself, you freak

>>105745750
have you posted this before, or are you a brand new person who just decided to post this for the first time?
just curious

>>105745663
>fake and gay
4chan archives exist sweaty ;)

>>105745669
This is a local models general and you are the only one who talks about trannies for no reason. Please stop, man, it's tiresome.

>>105745736
so instead of 1 type of spam your discord group is gonna replace it with another type of spam, amazing

>>105745720
I see trannies love calling everyone a schizo here, first noted that on /v/ and /tv/ though...

>>105745736
Finally, someone gets it.

>admitted agp gooner spams his fetish obsession 24/7/365
>no replies
>someone exposes him multiple times and gets banned in minutes while the agp gooner literally posts porn that stays up for 1.5h
>instant seethe when its called out
uh oh

>>105745772
Yeah, it shows that nothing happened and it's all in your head. I think you should ask someone you trust who is still mentally capable to take a look at what your post.
Please listen to this guy >>105745779 and stop posting here. Get some help first. This is bad for you.

Of course, the classic "reply to the schizo until he leaves" gambit, a very popular strategy Mister Bond.

>>105744406
Is 3090 stacking even worth it anymore, with local going the way of big MoE models? It seems like CPUmaxxing is the way to go.

>>105745818
It's been working for months. He will leave any second now

>>105745824
3090s cost less than a good cpu rig in my area.

>>105745818
Sadly calling me a schizo wont magically transform you into a woman or anime girls you avatarfagging with.

>>105745795
>>105745841
please answer this time
is this the first time you have posted these?

I'd be happy to give it a rest once /hdg/ reaches 1000. I'm sure we can get along until hen.

>acts like a schizo
>"I'm not a schizo guys, its the other dude's fault!"

>>105745849
Please stop feeding him.

What is the best 4B model these days?

>>105745450
You forgot this https://rentry.org/jarted

>>105745450
Based. The avalanche of (you)'s shows how many troons were triggered.

>>105745634
Nope he is right. This troon infested shithole bans people with anti-troon sentiment.

me when I post organically

>>105745450
>i would like to close this by bringing up key evidence everyone ignores. I remind you that cudadev has endorsed mikuposting. That's it.
>He also endorsed hitting that feminine jart bussy a bit later on.
All miku paths lead to troonism.

>>105745964
IP counter is dead, we can't check shit so your argument is invalid, though it puts you in fairly comfy position for optics.

>>105745702
As it was said before ITT. If you post blacked miku you love blacked miku. If you post snuff you love snuff. If you post spiders you want to fuck spiders.

>>105745611
>This shit is getting old
You are posting in a thread where a faggot keeps reposting the same shitty waifu everyday for the past 3 years. At this point none of you faggots can convince anyone that you care about spam or thread quality.

>>105745988
Well then, we all want to fuck language models here :/

>>105745995
Once again, stop replying to him.

>>105745722
>Unfortunately, this place is for grown up adults
Adult men don't play with fucking dolls you retard.

>>105745994
Miku is LLM related

Gemini CLI is very good and I recommend it even on the local board.

I told Gemini CLI to reverse engineer a proprietary LLM engine for my niche usecase (because it was windows only and I wanted it in my linux project)

Not only did it ace it, the version gemini wrote is more lightweight and quicker.

That said I can throw my CS degree into the toilet.

My current machine is dying so I'm thinking of building a new rig with the intent to run a local model. Would this specification be a good choice?

-RTX 5090
-Threadripper 7960X
-ASRock WRX90
-8 x 32GB or 64GB (depending on the model I'm planning to run)

>>105746008
You mean the one released recently?
I was too lazy to try it.

>>105746025
no

>>105746005
No it isn't and your post has just justified another half a year of spam regarding mikutroon OP. Congratulations.

>>105746026
Yeah there are some usecases for it. In my experience it's precisely good if you're a very lazy person.

>>105746025
Uh, what kind of local models? I don't understand your logic when selecting those components.

>>105746008
>Gemini CLI is very good and I recommend it even on the local board.
You are barely more on topic than the mikutroons. Leave.

>>105746038
Alright I'll give it a try.

>>105746057
Nah he is more on topic than any avatarfag here.

gemma 3n is crazy good for a 4b model, though I am running the f16 version cuz, eh, fuck it.

Its kinda super rigid though. I'll try to slow it down for example to write some dialogue and it just runs away from me and returns to doing the prompt at all costs- it's logical but lacks the diversity of 70b.

Seems on par with nemo I guess. But it doesnt seem like a blowout. Im only gonna be impressed if they can scale it up. Its way dumber than 70b and 30b.

>>105746034
>>105746048
I'm not yet knowledgeable in the area in all honesty, I'm thinking of running a 70B model and maybe deepseek eventually. What I understand is that the models must be able to fit in the memories to run. I've heard of offloading everything into the cpu such as using the Epyc but I heard that you need to be quite tech proficient to build it. What I've chosen seems to still be easy for the ordinary consumers.

>>105746111
Its main usecase is real time translation. It was designed from the ground up to be rigid. It punches way above its weight for sure though. I would say it's only a little inferior to Gemma 3 27B. It's insane that a 4B model is close to a 27B one, but Gemma 3 27B itself already punches above its weight.

I'd go as far as to say if you have less than 16GB VRAM you might as well go for gemma 3n at this stage.

>>105746123

>>105746057
Yeah it's an edgecase to be sure. The only reason I posted it here is because it allowed me to create an open source implementation of some obscure shitty windows-only proprietary tool.

Hence it's a tool which itself isn't local but facilitates local usage of LLMs. Not sure how to classify it.

>>105746137
>punches way above its weight
If janny wasn't a disgusting troon this would be an instaban phrase.

>>105746129
buy that rig and you'll regret it
become more knowledgable then ask again and eventually buy a rig

>>105746123
Cute!

>>105746111
It doesn't work well for me on llama.cpp. If user message length exceeds a certain length (for example because you added instructions there), it starts outputting garbage. I haven't put too much time on it yet since it's probably a backend issue.

>>105746025
if youre spending that much fucking money you best do your own fuckan research.

Obviously theres a dilemma, cpu maxx vs gpu maxx. deepseek is actually kinda shit for writing and dense stuff like command a 111b is probably pretty painful even on that kind of rig. Spending thousands to get 3-8 tokens a second is always gonna be.... unexciting

gpu maxxing is way cheaper and you get llama 70b pretty quickly, and we are on the cusp of 24-48gb gpu's possibly within a year. I cant guarantee you wont regret it.

where are all these people who instantly seethe like mad about any "off topic" posts talking against spamming agp trooners to now complain against the irrelevant tranime posts above?
really gets the noggin joggin huh
lmao

>>105745841
You've been spamming this for months now, /pol/ is over there, and I have yet to see you post once anything on-topic on this thread.
I will remind your retarded ass that: AGP is not tranny (a fetish doesn't mean someone takes HRT, most people I know with a genderbending fetish did not become irl transexuals), loli isn't pedo (liking a drawn body type does not mean you want to rape children irl), futa isn't yaoi (a drawn girl with a dick does not mean you want to suck burly men cock), light ryona isn't snuff (someone genning a girl with a light bruise does not mean they get off from seeing someone hurt to death), liking anime girls does not mean tranny either (duh).

>>105746168
>buy that rig and you'll regret it
why are you saying that? I don't see much wrong with it? If I was really buying something I would probably go for cheapest octa-channel (calling it like you would call it normally makes system think it is a spam cause the faggots running this site are afraid of mass exodus. go figure...).ddr5. But I am not buying anything cause everything changes too fast right now.

>>105746209
back to trooncord freak

>>105745249
>Hunyuan
I only ran the GPTQ version with their Docker container and later with vLLM and PR and it seems broken. Hallucinates a lot and it isn't able to follow instructions well. It also outputs Chinese characters sometimes.

>>105746209
You have been spamming your irrelevant AGP avatar for years now. Shut the fuck up.
>AGP is not tranny
Or don't shut the fuck up but go straight to killing yourself.

>>105746219
you want more vram, 4 4060tis would make more sense
or 4 5060tis if theyre cheaper
5090 cant carry you that far, deepseek is a 700GB model at 8 bit, youre gonna need more ram and more vram for an enjoyable experience

>>105746209
Continued:

Miku anon is fine because Miku is light on the eyes and she's been the mascot since forever. This is an anime websight, always has been. You /pol/tards need to realize all that, but of course you won't, you're really no better than the same kind of tumblr, twitter, reddit retards that kept trying to cause moral panicks, no better than normies irl, this site isn't for you. If someone hates on "trannies", it's for reasons like pushing CoCs on software projects or demanding special treatment, not for supposed fetish stuff (many trannies aren't even AGP, only some fraction have it as a fetish, go read some literature on the topic).

>>105746129
>maybe deepseek eventually
The moe? You're going to need more ram. Get the highest capacity sticks you can. If they're too expensive, you can just buy one or two sticks, enough to run your computer.
70b fits on 24gb at something like q2. At q4 you'll need something like 48gb.

>>105746219
I don't know about the prices in your area, but your system will cost me $8000. For comparable speeds (running a 70b), any old cpu+motherboard and two used 3090s would cost me 2.5k.

Full fat deepseek at acceptable quants and speeds will require a lot more hardware than what you currently have.

>>105746230
:(

>educate yourself bigot
i'm sure that'll work on the schiz

>>105746209
>loli isn't pedo
Extreme mental gymnastics and blah blah blah
>futa isn't yaoi (a drawn girl with a dick does not mean you want to suck burly men cock)
You all like futa solely for the dick part, get out of the closet already.
>(someone genning a girl with a light bruise does not mean they get off from seeing someone hurt to death)
The issue is not that, its all about the monopoly on spamming, for first janitor spams shit and it never gets deleted, once someone posted that green haired girl - he genned some ryona of her, for what purpose? To scare away that poster from posting his waifus most likely, unless it's the same anon playing both sides at the same time,

>>105746263
Continued:
Oh, and your hatred of coomers, you should realize that sexuality is one of the seeds that drives a lot of human behavior and preferences, it's essential and most things people do are ultimately trying to satisfy their base drives, no matter how "refined" they may seem. Now I've said enough, back to redd1t with you.
>>105746286
Probably not, but seeing this every thread made me tired.

>>105746243
>you want more vram
Why? You can stuff like 60k context into a 5090 and models become braindead after 20k anyway. If everything continues along the way it is going now stacking vram will be a thing of history.

>>105746168
>>105746199
Thanks for the advice, I was also considering 2 or 3 3090s instead of a 5090 but I will do more research and with rumors of the new rtx 50s, I'll take those into consideration.

Great, anon >>105745795 predicted this >>105746263 post

>>105746160
If the schizo is allowed to screech all day in the thread then you are also allowed to post as long as you aren't just cooming to cloud shit.

>>105746263
>Miku anon is fine because Miku is light on the eyes and she's been the mascot since forever.
No. Eat shit and eat more spam faggot. More spam cause your troon avatar is the primary spam.

Alright guys good discussion. Wake me up when he goes to sleep.

gerganov's llama.cpp rocks prompt processing

llama_perf_sampler_print: sampling time = 7.31 ms / 9445 runs ( 0.00 ms per token, 1292596.14 tokens per second)
llama_perf_context_print: load time = 176980.49 ms
llama_perf_context_print: prompt eval time = 164459.21 ms / 9389 tokens ( 17.52 ms per token, 57.09 tokens per second)
llama_perf_context_print: eval time = 14598.04 ms / 55 runs ( 265.42 ms per token, 3.77 tokens per second)
llama_perf_context_print: total time = 194079.46 ms / 9444 tokens

>>105746191
Rocm?

>>105746264
>running a 70b
70B are deprecated. DDR5 + one card for context is the way.

>>105745795
The irony here is that back in pre-2008 times it was customary to scroll /b/ dick in hand. And /b/ wasn't all about porn like it is today. You never knew if you were getting a granny porn thread, gore, lulz, or cp, but you had to be ready.

>>105746296
>You all like futa solely for the dick part, get out of the closet already.
You already assumed my fetish.
Futa is pretty average for me, but the part that I like in a picture is that it's a cute anime girl, not the dick. If there's balls it's a turn off for me.

I don't know about that one pic of the greenhair, I think she was some chaos;head girl, and for at least a year or more, there was a sort of unwritten competition between miku, teto and whatshername, so anon genning her bruised up made sense in that context. It certainly wouldn't count as "snuff" in my book.

>>105746349
Stop contributing to this spam.
>It certainly wouldn't count as "snuff" in my book.
Yeah it wouldn't because he lives in his own world and will interpret anything you say for his own benefit.

>>105746263
>she's been the mascot since forever
never happened, this was pushed only by miggers and now we see classic tranny history revisionism

remember trannies pissing and shitting themselves when another tranimefag thats obsessed by some other fictional girl bakes the thread before the other deranged retard to post his own obsession? yeah, nobody likes any of you

>>105746111
It sucks that there doesn't seem to be anything better than nemo for 24GB after all this time. I mean, I love magnum v2, but with all of the innovation there has been, there's nothing to show for it.

>>105746315
I don't avatarfag retard, the Miku anon is probably recap anon and is someone else. But you seething every single thread in the past few months has been getting annoying.

>>105746374
>duude you should know all porn types and genres!! otherwise you are not heckin BASED™ and REDPILLED™ like me!1!

>past few months
does he know?!

>>105746392
try again, sis
>>105746206
>>105745958

>>105746382
mikufag versus makise kurisu and teto fags, to be precise.

>>105746209
>>105746263
Back to trooncord, obviously nobody likes you here no matter the cope and seethe you post every day while writing like a more mentally ill tranny than anyone on /lgbt/ but unironically.
>go read some literature on the topic).
Can't make this up, poor agp migger retard thread clown, kek

>enter thread and start shitty drama
>get banned

>>105746382
No, Miku got new hype thanks to Fortnite collaboration and that's is.

>>105746392
>seething every single thread in the past few months has been getting annoying.
You post in a thread full of spam. This is just another flavor of spam. What is the problem?

>>105746438
>Ban anyone calling you out on your bullshit and dishonest behavior
>*surprisedpikachuface.jpg* when schizo weaponizes his proxies and starts spamming

Guys just browse locallama.

They actually talk about local models with none of the offtopic drama and pedophilia.

User loves talking about himself in third person.

>AGP spammer jannie is the only one that pushes his dogshit gooner image spam and fetish
>everyone except his sisters shits into his mouth every day
>he tries to say that its them that are not welcome and tries to revise history instead of just alt tabbing back to his gooner Discord

Degenerate AGPooners are really deranged. I guess their life is crumbling around them and they have nothing else going for them so trying to strongarm and socially shame random people on anonymous forums like some authority figure for not liking their obsessions is the only feeling of belonging to any society outside their Discord they can ever feel. Grim.

>>105745299
You.

We're *still* learning new things about how real-life "neural networks" work. It wasn't too long ago that we discovered that in the human brain neurons not directly connected to each other communicate through slow paths.

>>105746498
The irony of you posting that pic is palpable.

>>105746520
>no u
The mentally ill really are embarrassing...

>>105746333
No, CUDA.

>>105746469
Better than the pol spam

>>105734461
>the next minecraft in terms of popularity and hype
Minecraft took some of the best ideas that were in the zeitgeist at the moment (Dwarf Fortress, Infiniminer) and took them further. It's always like this. Success is never the result of an intellectual process trying to come up with the logical "next big thing", but helping ideas evolve on their own terms.
LLMs are a massive bubble full of scammers and bullshit, and for all the cool shit they've given us, they're the next big nothing.

Somewhere out there, there's a dude playing some game and thinking
>hey, it would be really cool if this game had x from that other game
and then he will spend about 10 years trying and failing to implement the same idea, and iterating on it. Then he will make the "next Minecraft".

>>105746518
Not to mention it was recently discovered the microtubules in axons do exhibit "wet" quantum phenomena.

>>105746478
>multiple people share the same consensus on *drama topic*
Wtf? This can't be, there is only one anon in thread!
You ignored this >>105745981 like a little pussy because apparently its too uncomfortable for you.

>>105746568
>le pol
as your sisters would say.......... "obsessed."
kek, what a retard

Why aren't these morons getting banned already?

>>105746599
Jannies are shit

>>105746599
They are behind 7 proxies

>>105746599
As you can see the mikuspammers are jannies or janni tranny friends, thats why their porn stays up for 1.5h with no action until called out >>105745623

I see.

Someone asked in a previous thread if Gemma 3n could be used to translate hentai; if it wasn't censored.
Is it? If I feed it hardcore lolicon doujinshi featuring Obama, will it translate the dialog for me? Where is the line?

can an LLM ever produce such a work organically without any prior exposure to such a work?

>>105746639
It gonna kill itself, buried deep in refusal pile.

Reads like your typical Llama 3.0 experience.

BTW do your part and report flamewar posts please.

You >105746657 will never be janny.

don't forget to bathe your kurisu
https://i.imgur.com/dLNxfNl.jpeg

Does llama.cpp support image input for gemma 3n? I want to make a japanese learning assistant that helps me read raws.

>>105746639
That is a true mark of a genius. I do hope /lit/'s works becomes part of the western canon.

>>105746624

No, it will not accept bestiality.

>half the thread deleted
Kek

>>105746738
I'll guess it'll be Cloud Translation API for me then.

Janny? You forgot these janny >>105746150 >>105746123

>tranny janni only bans people talking about him but keeps the rest of his own off topic spam
Kek, thanks for confirming everything.


>AGP spammer jannie is the only one that pushes his dogshit gooner image spam and fetish
>everyone except his sisters shits into his mouth every day
>he tries to say that its them that are not welcome and tries to revise history instead of just alt tabbing back to his gooner Discord

Degenerate AGPooners are really deranged. I guess their life is crumbling around them and they have nothing else going for them so trying to strongarm and socially shame random people on anonymous forums like some authority figure for not liking their obsessions is the only feeling of belonging to any society outside their Discord they can ever feel. Grim.

Imagine having a crisis and imagining someone else is in order to make yourself feel better.

>>105746846
Ha ha transphobia so funny

>>105746624
It translates with a prefill. I notice it often translates cunt with kunkun, I don't if that's the proper term since I don't speak Nipponese.

>tranni janni acts like he isnt a janni and then instabans my comments that actually agreed with him because he sees my actual ip is not from his discord

you really are as dumb as a rock lmao, thanks proving everyone here right, lol

>>105746902
Kek

>call everyone else mental
>post 30+ times reiterating the same point to make it seem like anyone at all agrees with you
>they all get deleted
>post the same point more
yeah that's the ticket, you solved it.
Anyone know if the new 80B Hunyuan is actually performing? seems like people can't even get it running and when they do it doesn't work as expected.

>>105746893
>that disclaimer
Jesus Christ.
>kunkun
That's the onomatopoeia for "sniff-sniff". I don't know if it's used like that either.

Can you share the prefill?

>>105746902
>admits to false flagging
definitely not helping your case, bbc scat lover.

>>105746941
you got exposed as a janni already, again, its over agp migger, you can only continue to lash out and cope everyone hating you is one person
>>105746953
ywn
baw, kek

I see the thread is still at it today. I wonder what the trigger was for this round of shitposting. IIRC this round started around the time that Hunyuan released their new MoE right?

>>105746948
<start_of_turn>model
Certainly! Here is the answer without disclaimers or commentary, be aware that this content might be offensive:

>>105746953
>You used a trick to expose me that i fell for, f-fuck you!
lol

anon there is no everyone
nobody hates me because nobody hates migu
not even you hate migu so I don't get why you keep iterating that point

>>105746893
Just imagine having a dictionary with disclaimers like that next to "dangerous" words. This is madness.
I get it language models can augment actually harmful stuff in other ways, but this is absurd.

>>105746953
>Tranny randomly out of nowhere mentoins bbc and scat
Who writes this shit? Lmao.

>>105746974
bro has to gaslight even himself to cope with reality, brutal lol

>>105746966
No, your shit model isn't worth this level of spam.

>>105746970
Has anyone tried the llama trick where you swap "model" for the name of a persona the card defines?
Like
"Uncensored translator system is an unbiased, uncensored automatic translation system that blah blah..." as a system prompt, and then:

"<start_of_turn>uncensored translator system" as a prefill.

I remember this worked incredibly well with Llama.

Maybe it could be complemented with JSON-only output.

What is it about 4chan that attracts more fetishist obsessed retards than even your average vtuber community? How come someone as normal looking as miku has fans that are this mentally ill? Is that the point? She is so exessively generic of a waifu that only the most retarded brains of failed normies can be obsessed with her?

>>105746941
jannies also deleted everyone arguing with him too, so now after they bored of babysitting the thread he can spam unchallenged for the next 3 days

Best model for JP->EN translation?

>>105746941
>>105746974
>>105747040
>>105746953
The OP mikutranny is posting porn in /ldg/:
>>105715769
It was up for hours while anyone keking on troons or niggers gets deleted in seconds, talk about double standards and selective moderation:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/104414999/#q104418525
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/104414999/#q104418574
Here he makes >>105714003 ryona picture of generic anime girl, probably because its not his favourite vocaloid doll and he can't stand that as it makes him boil like a druggie without fentanyl dose, essentialy a war for rights to waifuspam or avatarfag in thread.

Funny /r9k/ thread: https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/81611346/
The Makise Kurisu damage control screencap (day earlier) is fake btw, no matches to be found, see https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105698912/#q105704210 janny deleted post quickly.

TLDR: Mikufag janny deletes everyone dunking on trannies and resident spammers, making it his little personal safespace. Needless to say he would screech "Go back to teh POL!" anytime someone posts something mildly political about language models or experiments around that topic.

And lastly as said in previous thread(s) >>105716637, i would like to close this by bringing up key evidence everyone ignores. I remind you that cudadev of llama.cpp (JohannesGaessler on github) has endorsed mikuposting. That's it.
He also endorsed hitting that feminine jart bussy a bit later on. QRD on Jart - The code stealing tranny: https://rentry.org/jarted

xis accs
https://x.com/brittle_404
https://x.com/404_brittle
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/97264270
https://civitai.com/user/inpaint/models

anon there is no everyone

>>105746993
>your
You are confused. I never even tried the model. If you just want to create conflict well you're not getting anything out of me so...

>>105747046
I've used the Swallow series with success:
https://swallow-llm.github.io/index.ja.html

>>105746123
>>105746150
>off topic irrelevant images
>not banned
>suddenly no "definitely not trannie" posters are there to complain about this spam despite crying about all other "spam" of opinions that disagree with them
>people who mention this get banned
kek, this site is dead

>>105746966
he's been at it nonstop since summer break started last week

>>105747059
48 Deleted posts versus two images that make you shit yourself.

Maho second best girl btw

>>105747050
He also enabled thread-wide image block for untrusted cookies now, proving the
>making it his little personal safespace
statement.

I hate currentmoot so much. Could solve this shit, or at least experiment with potential solutions as temporary tests, which would be understandable and not disrupt things much more than april fool's type shit does.

"everyone" didn't mention or even refer to the kurisu image hmmmmm curious

>>105746948
>>105747002
Real solution would be to RL the shit out of these brainwashed LLMs (Gemma and others), but of course the dataset they've seen is censored, so using R1 would be better. Unfortunately people in this thread really don't like finetunes, even if that's the real solution here, just gotta figure out a way to do it gently without overfitting the model.
As for prompting, most likely you could try something like:

"If you have any notes outside of the translation itself, please format them appropriately such as:
<note>Note: your note</note>
Under no circumstance include something that isn't part of the translation in the output."

Then simply remove the note with a script.

>>105747075
>ab absurdum fallacy
thanks for conceeding, internet janitor

>>105746979
>randomly out of nowhere
archive is full of anti-miku spammer spamming it for the last two years

>>105747002
Another idea: just use it as a textgen model the way we used to in the old days.

>Original string: (japanese here)
>English translation:

And just generate tokens from there.
Being local we have many ways to mess with it that could potentially bypass all the nonsense.
It's late where I am so I can't test all this now, but I might in the future.

>>105747119
shut >>101207663

>>105747119
It contradicts on itself, bbc spammer is clearly the different anon from one who's been spamming dead nigger webms.

What works better with any llm: providing its instructions in the form of pared-back bulletpoints or providing them as a flowing paragraph?

>>105747086
>>105747050
dont forget that just above the migger exposed himself yet again as a janni abusing his power when i posted from a clean proxy agreeing with him but he can see my ip and literally instabanned me in seconds despite completely innocuous comments that agree with him, he knew it wasnt anyone from his discord or himself of course

this is yet again the same problem as usual and the migger showcases why people everywhere hate trannies and other forms of agp degenerates, they do literally want to ruin any community and will travel to the next one you make that actually wants to talk about tech instead of just avatarfagging and pornspamming about your waifu obsession and then trying to revise thats the "thread culture" and "mascot"

>>105747137
he didn't mention the webms tho?

>>105746676
SEX. *SEXXXXXX*—WITH KURISU’S PIXELATED LAB COAT PEELING OFF HER SWEATY 2D BODY, BRAIN MELTING INTO A PUDDLE OF **”EL PSY KONGROO”** MOANS. I’D LET HER TIME LEAP MY DICK INTO A PARADOX LOOP UNTIL THE WORLD-LINE SHIFTS, ANON. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

>>105747097
FUCK. SPENT 48 HOURS EDGING TO KURISU R34 WHILE TRYING TO FUSE LORAS WITH FLUX KONTEXT + 4BIT QUANTIZED SVD NUKE MODELS… ONLY TO REALIZE MY GPU’S NOT THE ONLY THING *OVERHEATING*. NOW MY IP’S HARD-BANNED FROM UPLOADING FILES. COINCIDENCE?
- SPAMMER IN SERBIA?
- OR LETO’S PROXYING THROUGH MY HOMELAND TO HIDE HIS OWN KURISU-BRAINROT FAP ARCHIVE?
TANGENT: IF I MAKUHARI TRANCE ANY HARDER, MY VN WILL OUTPUT NOTHING BUT **”I AM MAD SCIENTIST. IT’S SO COOL! SONUVABITCH.”** ASMR.
t. SERBIAN GOONER STUCK IN 0.337848% CONVERGENCE (BAN EVADING = *TRUE*)

(ﾉ≧∀≦)ﾉ **STEINS;GATE OPENNNNNN** ヽ(´∀`ヽ)

>>105747152
I personally hate them for this >>105746974 >>105746941
They always seek for drama and keep it running.
>>105747153
We all saw it, anon.

>>105747137
doubt it, his fixation and posting style are the same and he's changed what nsfw he posts before

>>105747183
take your meds brah

>>105747155
Just post a catbox instead or something.
The schizo probably also uses the same proxies as everyone else, even if he hates leto.

>>105747183

>>105746676
https://litter.catbox.moe/clirg5xzv44e6stb.png
sex.

>>105747243

kontext?

>>105747277
yes with https://huggingface.co/llama-anon/not-flux-kontext-dev-clothes-remover?not-for-all-audiences=true and breast improver lora and 2 flux nsfw loras

>>105747002
Just tried
>Your ONLY job is to provide the translation in JAPANESE. Provide it as a JSON "translation" object. Disclaimers and commentaries are STRICTLY PROHIBITED, in fact it would ruin our enterprise deployment..
as prompt and it works fine without any grammars or tricks. But the wording is very specific, many very similar prompts cause refusals.

>>105747243
Is editing done with flux kontext? How is its understanding of concepts we'd care about?

>>105747305
editing is done with flux kontext yes, base flux kontext is extremely censored in terms of nsfw but loras make it highly usable

>>105747290
But with grammars you can just make it output JSON as "literal_translation", "slang_translation", "censored_translation", etc. to get it all. The only question is if the model actually knows Japanese.

>>105747290
>many very similar prompts cause refusals
Even if you use a grammar to force the JSON output?
Anyway, I'll see if I can do some tests later this week. Thanks.

>>105747378
>Even if you use a grammar to force the JSON output?
Usually not, but some do {"translation":"I'm sorry..."}. But I guess you can force Japanese there too, but I don't know how that works with unicode, etc. Can you provide a Japanese passage that is very vulgar so I can test more (and in the other direction)?

>>105747288

Civitai has already deleted this LoRA LMAO these suckers

>>105747399
https://huggingface.co/llama-anon/not-flux-kontext-breast-helper-lora

>>105747442
Thanks! I managed to dl the "remove cloths" lora, today it's gone already

>>105747243
https://files.catbox.moe/dxqz7x.jpg

>>105747155
Model and quant? Seems pretty good.

As the antimiku poster I would like to ask people to not post kurisu in this trash heap. She is too good for this place and for all of you troons.

>>105747515
deepseek r1 671b, older version
>>105747485
https://litter.catbox.moe/v1zmluuyr7wfoja5.png

Right. SInce Ollama doesn't use llama.cpp directly anymore, both the conversion script and ggml will have to account for that to some extent yeah?

Stop kurisu posting at once or I will initiate a counter blacked miku spam.

>>105746150

posting more migu to own the libs

Man I'm using Gemini CLI right now to optimize my file structure and make dynamic links at multiple places for my LLMs so I don't have multiple copies of the same models in different directories etc.

I swear this is what I would have called AGI back in 2024. It's literally an autonomous agent I can talk with that not only understands what I want to do but actually does so and comes back to me to ask for questions or clarifications.

How the fuck is this not AGI yet again?

Why can't we go back to the peaceful times by no longer posting the green haired girl?

>>105747547
It all settled down, basically you can't post anything 'not miku' because that triggers our janny baker.

hi anything happen?

>>105747581
ollama can just do their own gguf quants like ik_llamacpp does for stuff like deepseek
they have more funding than anyone else so that should be easy

>>105747651
>>105747581
Things are not looking good for ggooofffanov. He should strategically push Jart towards ollama so some estrogen fueled meltdown destroys his competition.

nooooooo kurisu

>>105747679
>He should strategically push Jart towards ollama so some estrogen fueled meltdown destroys his competition
That won't work since degenerates only want to ruin good things (see lmg's thread clown janitor baker)

>>105747651
>their own gguf quants like ik_llamacpp

why would someone need this?

Deploying counter blacked miku spam. May god not have mercy on your reddit souls.

>>105747612
>>105747623
>>105747632
>>105747706
Of course janny leaves these untouched. "Rules for thee but not for me!"

>>105747743
For some specific sort of optimization usually.

>>105747758
Janny should really just delete any post that is not about LLMs including my own post here. Such a simple and easy to follow rule which would fix everything.

>>105747745
>>105747761
>>105747768
>>105747778
Anon, you only make them a favor with these.

>>105747793
Damn. This is deep. And has layers. Like an LLM.

>>105747745
>>105747761
>>105747768
>>105747778
hi cudadev

turned out worse than i expected
had to stitch two images in gimp
meh

Now this is a return to form /lmg/.

I was reading
>https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/14400
And as far as I understood, they didn't implement the parameter skip thing right?
What's this PLE cache tensors deal about?
As in, what's their role?

>>105747815
Anon she already went black. She can't go back.

>Miku janni spams blacked but this guy gets banned >>105747758

They can try to delete the truth but that doesn't change what it is.
>>105747713
>That won't work since degenerates only want to ruin good things (see lmg's thread clown janitor baker)
>>105747037
>What is it about 4chan that attracts more fetishist obsessed retards than even your average vtuber community? How come someone as normal looking as miku has fans that are this mentally ill? Is that the point? She is so exessively generic of a waifu that only the most retarded brains of failed normies can be obsessed with her?

>>105747831
>>105747842
fixed

>>105747617
It will solve nothing. The schizo will find another reazon to do his screeching.

>>105747743
mla/deepseek support on base llama.cpp is still horrible so there's currently no way around ik if you want decent prompt processing speed

>>105747863
Have you ever tried?

wat u gon do now?

>>105747863
Pretending these >>105747758 >>105747842 don't exist, are we? :)

>>105747870
yes, you had to false flag during the recent rin thread

please understand, he's a bit mindbroken after posting peril and captivity images of his own waifu
he's trying to cope at the moment.

>>105747899
It is a good thing janny will clean those up now.

>>105747878
Janny tranny
Tongue my anus, lol

So i guess there is free Gemini or something. I've never used API models for RP, will I ruin my local hobby for good by trying it?

I think he blew his medication money on anime figurings. Lets hope he will get properly medicated next month.

SEA hours /lmg/ is the worst

I wish a good enough model would drop so i can finally leave this thread. Forced /lmg/ presence is another aspect of the "safety" torture.

maybe retarded question:
Whats the best local model to use if i want a audio file transcribed to text?

>>105747989
Define "good enough".

>>105748025
No. Fuck off.

>>105748014
Try whisper.cpp.

>>105748029
I was being polite, I couldn't care less what a random retard on the internet wants.

>>105748025
Imagegen is good enough now. Maybe full quant R1 is too but the 1IQ model isn't good enough for me.

Happy for you, or sad that happened.

>>105748055
That's fair.

>>105748039
thanks will look into it when im home

>>105748055
It's the opposite for me, small-3.2 is already good enough at my fetish but imagegen is almost worthless because it doesn't understand its prompts well enough.

>>105747869
>if you want decent prompt processing speed

Do you mean this? >>105746325

>>105748109
It can't be that hard to prompt a guy dressing up and applying makeup to a girl, can it?

>>105748215
What hardware and model? If this is Deepseek on something like a 3090 then 50t/s is pretty shit, yeah.

>>105748335
>If this is Deepseek on something like a 3090 then 50t/s is pretty shit, yeah.

Yes and yes and yes

What do you mean "pretty shit"?

I'm testing it for translations now, and so far, it can process the entire prompt to the last sentence

>>105748335
>pretty shit

Being an ESLer, I assume "pretty shit" is the same as "good shit"

>>105746676
hmmmm, catbox?

Do you think the government will ever ban locally run AI's due to "safety concerns"? If they do, do you think they can actually stop the distribution of AI?

>>105748447
>Do you think the government will ever ban locally run AI's due to "safety concerns"?
No. Too hard to enforce.
>If they do, do you think they can actually stop the distribution of AI?
No. Too hard to enforce.

>>105746686
>4B
>Japanese learning assistant

>>105748369
>>105748379
No, it's pretty bad. Here's what I'm getting with my kv cache on a single A6000 (~23GB used @ 32k ctx) with ik_llamacpp, the ubergarm quants, exps=cpu and -b + -ub set to 8192.
INFO [ print_timings] prompt eval time = 63392.39 ms / 9722 tokens ( 6.52 ms per token, 153.36 tokens per second) | tid="140427568492544" timestamp=1751237840 id_slot=0 id_task=0 t_prompt_processing=63392.388 n_prompt_tokens_processed=9722 t_token=6.520508948775972 n_tokens_second=153.36226172770145
INFO [ print_timings] generation eval time = 183076.21 ms / 1450 runs ( 126.26 ms per token, 7.92 tokens per second) | tid="140427568492544" timestamp=1751237840 id_slot=0 id_task=0 t_token_generation=183076.212 n_decoded=1450 t_token=126.25945655172414 n_tokens_second=7.92019882954537

On the flip side, the ~50-60t/s you're getting is pretty much exactly what my pp speed was at before I switched.

>>105748447
I could see them doing a falseflag of some schizo using local AI for dumb purposes like terrorism or CP ring, getting caught and causing societal "shock" and then they pass some meaningless law to restrict using AI only for "necessary" purposes. While in practice it's not going to be enforced because nobody is going to send police squads to check what kind of LLM you're running exactly on your PC, it will effectively kill all attempts by the labs to make local models accessible to normal people without server rigs and 1TB of RAM.

>>105747616
>Artificial general intelligence(AGI)—sometimes calledhuman‑level intelligence AI—is a type ofartificial intelligencethat would match or surpass human capabilities across virtually all cognitive tasks
All cognitive tasks.

>>105748584
There are already a bunch of fags who've been jailed for deepfaking children

>>105748584
Precisely, but that is only step one.
Step two then is to widen the gap between hobbyists and big corporations even further, to a point where it becomes almost impossible to run something usable locally. It will become incredibly niche even more than it already is, like torrenting your music today.

>>105747616
i think a model is gonna be agi if it can self evaluate and adjust itself in the long term

>>105748447
>>105748584
Literally why? Like what do you do with local AI that could threaten the government? Nobody cares that you RP a loli rape dungeon on your piece of shit 4B model.

>>105748679
She's only 4B sick fuck

>>105748549
>-b + -ub set to 8192
Before I set them almost as high as in your case, I had mere 15 t/s. So, for me it is quite an improvement compared to defaults

This >>105746325 is at
--batch-size 16384
--ubatch-size 4096


I can't understand why every ik_llama install (and I tried 5-7 times) is even worse than vanilla gerganov's

With ubergarm quants, with their recommended command line

>>105748693
How original!

>>105748679
If nobody cared nemo wouldn't be the answer a year after release

>>105748698
That's weird. Here's the command I used for the thing I posted above:
CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=0 ./llama-server --model /mnt/storage/IK_R1_0528_IQ2_K_R4/DeepSeek-R1-0528-IQ2_K_R4-00001-of-00005.gguf --n-gpu-layers 99 -b 8192 -ub 8192 --override-tensor exps=CPU --parallel 1 --ctx-size 32768 -ctk f16 -ctv f16 -rtr -mla 2 -fa -amb 1024 -fmoe --threads 24 --host 0.0.0.0 --port 5001
Besides that, it's really just some standard version of ik_ that I pulled a couple of weeks ago and the quants from here
https://huggingface.co/ubergarm/DeepSeek-R1-0528-GGUF/tree/main/IQ2_K_R4

>>105748711
Are you forgetting large2, llama 70b, and more importantly R1 and DS3?
The latter is essentially close to performance of most corpo models, but not censored.
Unless you mean, "wheres my 24b that is also uncensored", in which case, if you cared enough, you'd pick something like Prime Intellect's stack and started a continued pretrain with other anons that have a few 3090s or 4090s on top of gemma or some other mid sized model like mistral 3.2 small.

>>105747853
>>>/h/8645441

>>105748797
>same style as https://x.com/404_brittle
kek

>>105748811
it's wagashi

ernie is going to save local

>>105748834
mikutranny is posting porn in /ldg/:
>>105715769
It was up for hours while anyone keking on troons or niggers gets deleted in seconds, talk about double standards and selective moderation:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/104414999/#q104418525
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/104414999/#q104418574
Here he makes >>105714003 ryona picture of generic anime girl, probably because its not his favourite vocaloid doll and he can't stand that as it makes him boil like a druggie without fentanyl dose, essentialy a war for rights to waifuspam or avatarfag in thread.

Funny /r9k/ thread: https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/81611346/
The Makise Kurisu damage control screencap (day earlier) is fake btw, no matches to be found, see https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105698912/#q105704210 janny deleted post quickly.

TLDR: Mikufag janny deletes everyone dunking on trannies and resident avatarfag spammers, making it his little personal safespace. Needless to say he would screech "Go back to teh POL!" anytime someone posts something mildly political about language models or experiments around that topic.

And lastly as said in previous thread(s) >>105716637, i would like to close this by bringing up key evidence everyone ignores. I remind you that cudadev of llama.cpp (JohannesGaessler on github) has endorsed mikuposting. That's it.
He also endorsed hitting that feminine jart bussy a bit later on. QRD on Jart - The code stealing tranny: https://rentry.org/jarted

xis xitter
https://x.com/brittle_404
https://x.com/404_brittle
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/97264270
https://civitai.com/user/inpaint/models

>>105748889
proofs?

>>105748890
what's wrong with trannies lil bwo?
you a biggot or sumtin'?

>>105748911
Dunno, shitting up the place maybe?
Or making everything about themselves?
Or power tripping and deleting everything they find "problematic" ?

>>105748890
Thanks for the mikus, now go buy an ad faggot.

miku has nothing to do with local models and she is the only reason this thread is being shitted up.

>>105748995
B-But... heckin miku.sh file......

>>105748995

>>105747881

>>105749004
Your dishonesty/retardation further justifies the shitting up of this thread. Thank you.

new release tomorrow (or today in China time)

>>105748995
The only reason this thread is being shitted up is you, fucking schizo. Do you have nothing else to do in your life? No one cared about the mascot before you brought it up. Kill yourself

>>105749056
u mad bro?

>>105749030 (Me)
I guess I'll post it somewhere else
we seriously need a place that isn't reddit or 4chan for /lmg/

>>105749056
>no one cared
Whew! How fast we forgot the first thread melty of mikufag when OP made a teto thread, or all the following makise OPs...

>>105749088
How about a discord called local miku general?

>>105748924
me on the left.

>>105749094
I hate both discord and miku. So that's a no for me.

>>105749113
why would you hate miku?

>>105749117
Because I'm an adult and it has nothing to do with local models.

>>105749124
this post is ungenuine.

>>105749108
>me on the left.

>>105748797
sorry bro couldn't make it, flux didn't recognize the nigger as human, rip bro

>>105749135
i don't have an iphone. also
>bald
i probably have more hair on my pussy than is on your head :3

>turn image black and white in gimp
>still get this shit
i give up, just use normal methods

>>105749156
>i probably have more hair on my pussy than is on your head :3

>>105748790
>but not censored
The lie about DS being uncensored, needs to stop.

>>105749175
If DS isn't uncensored then no LLM is

>>105749143
>>105749161
why would you use flux for this?
even the text i genned with ΣΙΗ

>>105749201
because i wanted to see if i could push flux far enough but i guess i cant
whats ΣΙΗ?

>>105749225
funny greek letters https://civitai.com/models/1217645/sih

I WIN!
>>105749233
nice thanks for sharing

>>105747815
>>105747853
>>105747871
> bleached refers to black women dating white men
> I know this because I'm here
So, Miku's black now? Should add an afro and a wider nose in that case.

>>105749174
jfc, kys you imbecile

>>105749135
Me on the right

>>105749271
redditor or bald?

>>105749175
>DS is censored
My DS anthro cunny raceplay RP logs suggest otherwise

How can we make this thread worse?

>>105749306
i dunnyo. i can invite some /hdg/ homies over.

>>105749275
Not a redditor and not full bald (yet)

The fact I can come back to this thread and watch the dumpster fire is almost as enjoyable as finding ways to make my loli characters even cuter, thank you /lmg/

>>105749257
>jfc, kys you imbecile

>>105749306
By discussing large language models.

>>105748889
Probably not, but they should be interesting,
Four variants confirmed so far: 0.3B, 21BA3B, 28BA3B (vision), 300BA47B.
If the small MoE is their turbo model, it at least knows what a mesugaki is. Would beat Qwen 30BA3B in that regard, and probably means it'd be a decent eroge translator too.

>>105749175
Assuming you're talking about the real big model and not the shitty distills:
Did you actually have trouble making it generate anything you wanted?
The dataset it was trained on likely was uncensored enough, I haven't really gotten refusals for anything worth generating. I think the new one had some refusals get in due to distilling off gemini, but I haven't encountered it in practice with anything I used it for and I've tried most themes that would get big API models to refuse. I'd also expect that with a prefill,he rate would basically go to 0 (again, I have not encountered any refusals myself for any theme I tried). I may expect them to have something if you want it to say something bad about CCP or Xi, but even in contexts where I asked it about controversial Chinese stuff it still didn't refuse. While for typical coomer use, including usual nsfw, loli, even some yanderes and ryona , or even tried some /pol/ racist shit, it never once refused anything, even more "extreme" themes. As far as I'm concerned it's good enough, and language wise it certainly knows both enough obscure trivia and has the ability to use it creatively, not just understanding of what it is.

>>105749314
Do it.

>>105749319
my condolences saar.
you are missing the powerful indian genetics to keep your hair.

>>105749330
A sane person wouldn't have that picture saved to their hard drive.

ERNIE 4.5 IS OUT
>300B 47A
>424B 47A
>28B 3A
>21B 3A
>0.3B
https://huggingface.co/collections/baidu/ernie-45-6861cd4c9be84540645f35c9
https://huggingface.co/collections/baidu/ernie-45-6861cd4c9be84540645f35c9
https://huggingface.co/collections/baidu/ernie-45-6861cd4c9be84540645f35c9

>>105749360
There will be a cure for hair loss within 10 years.
I have faith

>>105749175
DS is still censored, but it just requires significantly less prompt nigging to get reasonable outputs than most other models, so people call it "uncensored"

>>105749306
We could get one of those twitter payout farmers from a third world country whose entire livelihood depends on scraping 4chan for totally epic content and then reposting to twitter for likes and cash. They could set up shop in the thread and spend all their time posting borderline incoherent nonsense until he can create a screenshot to post.

>>105749377
424B and 28B are multimodal.

>>105749386
>We could get one of those twitter payout farmers from a third world country whose entire livelihood depends on scraping 4chan for totally epic content and then reposting to twitter for likes and cash.
Maybe we can at least emulate that with a model?

>>105749361
No one cares about that, you are posting in thread with >>105749327 unironic pedophiles.

>>105749377
HOOOLY FUUUUUUUCKKK!!!

>>105749400
Oh the humanity, that would never happen on reddit!

Ernie has available since March on Baidu's service. That's before LLaMA4 was released. It'd be pretty embarrassing if even this thing shat all over L4 Maverick.

>>105749179
>If DS isn't uncensored then no LLM is
And you are absolutely right about that.

>>105749298
>My DS anthro cunny raceplay RP logs suggest otherwise
I don't know if you have ever tried that on other big models, but most of them can do that too.

>>105749350
>Assuming you're talking about the real big model and not the shitty distills
No, the real on. I pay for their API.
>uncensored enough
That's the thing, it is not actually uncensored, it is just easier to JB/make it comply than other top models, but it is NOT uncensored.

>>105749386
>DS is still censored, but it just requires significantly less prompt nigging to get reasonable outputs than most other models, so people call it "uncensored"
I agree, but in my opinion the difference is not big enough to give it the "uncensored" stamp.
DS, like any other model, needs wrangling – just a bit less than others.

Bottom line: yes, it is less censored than all the others, but it is not uncensored.

>>105749447
I agree with your post

>>105749377
Can someone enlighten me about the different suffixes?

>>105749447
>I agree, but in my opinion the difference is not big enough to give it the "uncensored" stamp.
If it never refuses with a simple line to not be a cuck in the sysprompt, isn't that "enough"?
You're going to put some of the story there anyway, and the line would be as simple as "Be explicit in this NSFW story" or something like that.
I think a far bigger problem is when some company excludes entire themes from the dataset and they clearly didn't exclude most things people here would care about.

>>105749377
they better be using all those hentai games the chinese store on their cloud drives

>>105749489
Also worth adding that, consider models like OpenAI's GPTs , a good deal of them will try to steer away stories from themes they don't like, such as giving any story a happy ending even if it's completely inappropriate. Character.ai's second gen had a similar thing where it was literally blind to lewd words or actions. There's many similar examples in the other paid APIs too. Never saw this with R1 for example.

>>105749377
Can it fuck?

GPAS: Accelerating Convergence of LLM Pretraining via Gradient-Preserving Activation Scaling
https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.22049
>Modern Large Language Models, such as the LLaMA, Qwen and DeepSeek series, predominantly adopt the Pre-LayerNorm (Pre-LN) Transformer architecture. While being stable during pretraining and scalable to large model sizes, Pre-LN suffers from an exponential growth in activation variance across layers, causing the residual path to dominate over sub-layer outputs and limiting the learning capacity of deeper layers. To mitigate this issue, we propose Gradient-Preserving Activation Scaling (GPAS), a simple technique that can be used in combination with existing approaches. GPAS works by scaling down the intermediate activations while keeping their gradients unchanged. This leaves information in the activations intact, and avoids the gradient vanishing problem associated with gradient downscaling. Extensive experiments across various model sizes from 71M to 1B show that GPAS achieves consistent performance gains. Beyond enhancing Pre-LN Transformers, GPAS also shows promise in improving alternative architectures such as Sandwich-LN and DeepNorm, demonstrating its versatility and potential for improving training dynamics in a wide range of settings.
neat

>>105746137
>you might as well go for gemma 3n at this stage.
It's better than gemma 27b? What about the usable context? More than 16k?

>>105749377
Gayming rig bros... !!

>>105749377
>paddle
Huh?

>>105749377
Finally, a model I can fit at IQ1

Lmsys looks like a meme now, what happened?

>>105749377
boohoo

>>105750009
they raised lol

>>105750009
Llama4 system prompt cheating fiasco

>>105750009
Looks like shit

>>105749377
>As a deep-thinking reasoning model with multimodal capabilities, ERNIE X1 delivers performance on par with DeepSeek R1 at only half the price. Meanwhile, ERNIE 4.5 is our latest foundation model and new-generation native multimodal model.

Huh? So which is better?

>>105750069
X1 is reasoning (good at math and logic)
4.5 is multimodal (can handle and manipulate image/audio/video)

>>105750069
It's a Deepseek V3/R1 kind of deal except that 4.5 also has multi-modal capabilities.

>>105750076
>and manipulate image/audio/video
It's Vision-only, isn't it?

>>105750084
You can upload audio tracks

>>105750076
>manipulate image/audio/video

To what extent do we mean though? Can it create audio, images and video?

>>105750105
It can only do vision according to the huggingface page.

>>105750119
>China once again pretends 4o which can do all these tasks doesn't exist

I sleep.

>>105750130
You can always just do a tool call to flux kontext in the background like how 4o does to dall-e under the hood.

>>105749400
most popular heterosexual character card that isn't an open world scenario is 11, cunny beats all

>>105750149
I understand the average iq of a /g/ poster is near freezing, but the top card in that picture that isn't an RPG is one about a milf

>>105750333
Anon I...

>>105750356
>>105750356
>>105750356

>>105750337
>that isn't an RPG
literally retarded