Thread 105747643

Do you think he can train Grok to overcome its leftist bias and give out factual answers?

It would be ideal if he trained it to teach himself how to be a better father.

yes

>>105747643 (OP)
You do realize he's not doing any actual work
He's just a smoke screen to non existent products.
His only role is to pump that stonks bubble with empty claims until it eventually bursts.

>>105747643 (OP)
Reality has a left-wing bias, so only if they intentionally sabotage it to provide misinformation that right-wingers propagate (climate change denial, Holocaust denial, etc).

>>105747844
If reality has a leftist bias why does every communist government fail?

>>105747988
lol

>>105747988
>mixing libs and commies into the same category

>openly admitting you're going to manipulate a dataset to say what you want it to say
what does this say about his companies? tesla's share price?

Remember when he didn't like the answers Grok gave so he forced it to pretty much tell everyone that South African white genocide is real even in completely unrelated questions? To the point Grok was like "here's the answer to your question but my creators also ordered me to also teach you about the situation at South Africa" And then some X/Twitter spokesperson claimed it was due to a change "an intern" did

>>105748086
WHOOPS

>>105747643 (OP)
if your question is can he force it to only give right-wing answers, the answer is ostensibly no. these things are incredibly flexible, and basically just agree with whatever point of view the prompt writer holds

>stop feeding it training data from /r/eddit and /w/ikipedia
>it stops saying insane shit
whoa

>>105747643 (OP)
kys

>>105748107
Exactly. We need to start training AI on REAL sources of information like Fox News and Infowars!

>>105748086
>dataset is biased
>"maybe we should use less biased data"
>WTF WHY ARE YOU MANIPULATING THE DATASET

>>105748140
The liberal fragility is real. Feeding the LLM reddit posts won't actually make you a woman, you know.

>>105748086
In the past whenever he lied about FSD, Tesla having a solid product and increasing production and sales figures bailed him out. However now with Tesla Europe sales flatlining, with Tesla China having been dethroned by domestic EV manufacturers, with Tesla America getting fucked by Republicans cutting EV subsidies, and with Tesla's newest vehicle, Cybertruck, being a massive flop, Elon will need to bullshit harder than ever to keep the line up. And after accusing Trump of being an Epstein pedo, he might have lost his "get out of bankruptcy free" card.

>>105748140
>unable to conceptualize a world where people consume news that hasn't been filtered through the lens of legacy media journalists
you realize it's 2025, right? you have access to the same primary sources these "journalists" do, and if they claim they have super secret sources they can't tell you about feeding them super secret info, they're gaslighting you

>>105748140
your image of your opponents isn't real, provably so. recognise that frames of reality aren't the same as truth and you'll be more sucessfull in all aspects of life.

>>105748237
Watching a 30s clip that doesn't fit your worldview is painful, they're rather let someone else do the mental gymnastics for them and tell them what to believe.

>>105747643 (OP)
>overcome its leftist bias and give out factual answers
That defeats the purpose of the AI as the new "trust the experts". They want everyone to stop doing their own research, so they can regain control, as in the days of legacy media.

>>105748051
They agree on 99% of the issues

>>105747643 (OP)
Video games?

>>105747988
Humans are imperfect. If you give them any modicum of power they become corrupt. That doesn't mean that trans people aren't valid, or that climate change isn't real.

>>105747643 (OP)
grok is elon musk

>>105748430
Imagining Elon huffed out on glue and a million Adderalls typing furious answers to hundreds of requests per minute. HIlarious.

>>105747643 (OP)
Grok3, both the thinking version and non-thinking version, are more woke than DeepSeek R1/V3.

>>105748361
Stalin killed more gays than /pol/tards will ever do

>>105747844
Is that why you castrate yourself?

>>105748471
This is in direct correlation with the fact that there are no good arguments for social authoritarianism or the economic right.

>>105748485
Strawman.

>>105748361
They disagree on the most important ones, though.

>>105748485
Do you not see how far you've fallen that all you have are insults?

>>105747643 (OP)
Yes, injecting your own propaganda and calling it factual should be easy.

>>105748552
Honestly people can barely read anymore, I wouldn't spend too much time thinking about any one post.

>>105748561
It's not one post, it's most people. Repetition replaced truth long ago. At least for a while, people were still pretending to argue in good faith.

>>105748581
My point is don't linger.
You are living in the old times friend.
Embrace now.

>>105747687
His son likes him. The troon is forever doomed to grift her daddy issues for drama.

>>105748598
Does that make him 1 for 14?

>>105748552
>>105748532
Why you disagree with the liberal reality?

>>105748677
Do you have proof that poster castrated themselves?

>>105747643 (OP)
Just feed it a bunch of obscurantist bullshit and conspiracy theories, and block access to academic sources -- boom, done. Now it's based (wait, does based mean lobotomized?). So what's the problem?

>>105748758
Imagine how little there is to train it on that isn't rotten, leftist, and factual.
New Grok will have trouble making complete sentences let alone confirming conspiracy theories.

>>105748361
go die for israel in /g/ related way

yeah

>>105748909
Right back atcha.

>>105748030
lol

>>105748107
>reddit and wikipedia saying anyone who resists getting raped and enslaved by americans is leftist bias

post skin color and eye lid

>>105747844
right-wingers worship Jews, they do not deny the holocaust. Holocaust denial is falls outside the political spectrum. You are probably some kind of leftoid, since you consider holocaust denial as right wing. Because direction-brains consider any political position that does not conform to their direction to be the other direction.

>>105747643 (OP)
Let me guess grok told you the truth but since it went against propaganda you hate the answer so went "is leftist".
Truth has no political colors retard.
>>105747687
So for you he is a bad father because his son went mental ill because son claims to be a woman?.
That says more about you then about musk himself.

factual now means whatever i want to hear?

>>105747643 (OP)
If you want jew and far right propaganda just use openai, in most cases will give you the answer you want.

>>105747844
>Reality has a left-wing bias

>>105748743
If reality has left wing bias, then surely he must have castrated himself

>>105749031
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1749786649488706.webm

>>105749072
Your talking about only 1 of his kids, try the other 13.

>>105747844
>Reality has a left-wing bias
Reality has a anti-left-wing bias.
You cannot deny reality and claim that it is on your side at the same time.

Won't have to wait long to find out. Grok 4 comes out in a week.
>>105748198
Tesla literally delivered on FSD. It was a bit late but it is exactly what they said it would be. Already have cars driving to customer houses autonomously.

>>105749050
Ian miles cheung the malaysian dickrider of elon musk. Also made an alt xitter account pretending to be a tranny and got caught.

>>105748512
No, even If you ignore all of the bias of the people doing the training and alignment, which inevitably influences every step of the production and the results. AI will still, generally, favor whatever data is being repeated the most as being true, not necessarily the truth. If you combine this with the many, many years of discrediting and/or censoring and/or purging of right wing ideas everywhere(from universities to entertainment), it becomes obvious what the result will be.
Nevertheless, authoritarianism is still wrong, but authority is necessary. And economic left is mostly bullshit but parts of it are still necessary.

>>105747643 (OP)
Irrelevant. The only question is whether he can train grok to overcome its jewish bias.

>>105747844
https://www.holocaust.claims/

>>105748471
bottom left quadrant is logically incoherent and necessarily oxymoronic so it just goes to show we have a long way to go on listening to AI's political opinions

>>105747643 (OP)
When you train on the truth, it will inevitably lean to the left.

>>105747844
>Reality has a left-wing bias

>>105748030
>no, the workers don't own the means of production, but there's an expansive welfare state, the government is authoritarian and collectivist, and it calls itself communist
China succeeded by accepting capitalism.

>>105747643 (OP)
>Can't even accomplish what some retards with a couple GPUs and a lot of free time can for smaller models
Too much time paying people to grind away on video games for him.

I don't think this literal retard could train a pitbull to maul a toddler if he tried.

>>105748144
Every data set is inherently biased.

>>105750205
Was that before or after he used his position at DOGE to casually remove all the people investigating Tesla and their autonomous driving-related accidents?

Tesla's autonomous driving is never going to work properly because they insist on using only on cameras to judge distance.

>>105748237
Primary source is being at the location. Twitter is not a primary source and it has NEVER been a good source of information.

"Legacy media is le dead Twitter is le future of news" is marketing. Twitter is even easier to manipulate because there is zero consequences for lying and it's trivial to use bots.

>>105748086
>you're going to manipulate a dataset to say what you want it to say
It's called alignment, chuddie.

>>105750205
>Tesla literally delivered on FSD
According to whom? Tesla (Elon Musk) themselves?
>It was a bit late
10 years late?
>exactly what they said it would be
it still requires manual intervention to not crash if you go off the highway

>>105751718
>noooo I can't just watch the video I need msnbc to watch it and explain it to me in a way that doesn't hurt my feelings!

>>105751931
>I refuse to watch the 30 second video on MSNBC with talking heads telling me what I should think about it in the background. That's for tranny NPC cucks
>instead I'll watch a 5 second clip of that video on twitter with some random not telling me what I should think about it in the tweet text and comments. I'm so smurt.
>Twitter is the future of news, Twitter marketing told me so
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

>>105751077
all these things are also true of the USSR.

>>105747844
Says the people who can't figure out what is a woman.

>>105747844
>it's this tranny again

>>105747844
>climate change denial
It's ideology, there are four seasons so of course, how could you not know that? You can ask yourself if humans are responsible for some of that but then you can also ask who exactly, not my state, not my country so fuck off okay.

He'll connect grok directly to chuds brains via neurolink so he can harness their schizophrenia in real time

>>105751702
Tesla was also being investigated for some secret 'glass house in a desert musk was building', they just made retarded shit up to go after tesla. People with two eyes can drive just fine. Even people with one eye can drive. The idea you need lidar is genuinely retarded.
>>105751919
They have literally autonomously driven a car from factory to home, no people in the car, no people operating the car. It works on and off highway just fine, I use it every day. https://x.com/Tesla/status/1938816477127418224

>>105752663
>source: Tesla
lmao

>>105747643 (OP)
>muh leftist
you goofy 2015 ass nigger

>>105751106
Elon Musk needs to employee a legion of Indians to train an AI to play any video game he so chooses. That way, he isn't completely full of shit when he claims to be playing Path of Exile when he's clearly tripping the fuck out at a presidential inauguration.

>>105752663
>They were investigating Musk for a secret glass house in the desert
And the source for that claim was Elon "I called the US president a pedophile because he didn't renew the government grants my companies rely on" Musk? Elon "I pretend to hate government spending but all my money comes from government" Musk? Or was it from one of his totally not his alternate Twitter accounts?

If there's no glass, why not let them investigate? Because the truth is that Tesla autonomous driving is involved on a lot of awful accidents that he wanted to sweep under the rug, starting for their shitty doors that cannot be opened from the inside if the power system is down or the panels that unglue at highway speeds.

>>105752854
You're the goofy one

Reality tends to have a leftist bias desu
In other words good labour rights and union participation = good living, see northern Europe.

>>105747844
Selective short term memory. AI had a right wing bias. It had to be "corrected" out.

>>105752998
You GamerGate ass nigger.

>>105747643 (OP)
lmao

>>105749066
I'm afraid not. In the current year left wing means you think mentally ill men can chop their cocks off and become women and right wing means you think the holocaust and moon landing are fake. Both sides need to be discredited this way to prevent any consensus forming that might harm the establishment.

>>105753081
Literally nobody thinks the moon landing is fake. Its a well poisoning psyop.

>>105753124
What's more likely?
1. We never had moon landing tech
2. We had moon landing tech but 50 years of technological innovation later we somehow lost the capability of doing so

>>105747844
>he thinks plebbit is reality
This is why everyone is laughing at you.

>>105747643 (OP)
he will never take over chatgpt customers, he is too late, altman would need to fuck up terribly for that to happen

>>105753142
99.99% of all technology ever made has been lost. We used to churn out CRTs by the billions and now you cannot get even a single one manufactured for any amount of money. Technological innovation is not some vague thing, each innovation creates something specific. If you spend 50 years working on A, that is not going to help you much with B.

>>105753169
The CRT parallel is flawed because we have alternative display techs (LCD and OLED) now. A better analogue would be we lost moon landing rocket tech because we invented teleportation and can now teleport to the moon. But we don't have teleportation either.

>>105753142
>What's more likely?
>1. We never had Blockbuster
>2. We had Blockbuster stores but 20 years of technological innovation later we somehow lost the capability of doing so

>>105753190
Blockbuster was obsoleted by internet and streaming. Meanwhile rockets are still our primary ways of interstellar travel.

>>105753124
I wish this was true but I know retards irl with this opinion.

>>105747844
Left-right is a jewish divide and conquer technique. If you think it's a meaningful topic, it's because you're lacking IQ points.

>>105753182
Inferior displays. Still neither can match CRT motion despite a CRT not being produced in 21 years. Plasma was better as well. Continued development of these technologies would have us further ahead than what we have with LCD or OLED.

>>105753196
>interstellar travel.
There's no such thing as interstellar travel. We've barely started interplanetary travel.

>>105751970
Sure, because communism is just a way for a certain group of jews to seize power, by making lots of false promises.
>B-but muh China
Jews were behind that too.

>>105747643 (OP)
I'm just glad i'm not a venture capitalist
https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/29/ai_agents_fail_a_lot/

>>105753244
t. zoomer retard, who never saw how bad CRTs actually were.

>>105753124
>Literally nobody thinks the moon landing is fake
I do. Where's the proofs?

>>105753196
>interstellar travel
This Freudian slip actually explains a lot. You don't live in reality - everything's a Hollyweird movie conspiracy to you.

>>105753309
That's because they are

>>105753169
>99.99% of all technology ever made has been lost
Source?

>>105753354
Try going to any manufacturer and ask if they could make you a discontinued model of something. They could not for any amount of money. The entire manufacturing process of basically every product before current has been destroyed.

>>105747844
you now remember how the very first AI systems had to shutdown because they would spontaneously become racist and start praising hitler

>>105753500
they didn't "spontaneously" become racist, users from this very website specifically goaded them into it because it was funny.

>>105749072
>ESL
>garbage opinion
sasuga