Thread 105748669

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y70/60, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (gaming included): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7700/X, 9700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Intel: If deeply discounted (13/14th gen -K CPU: BIOS update required)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported, BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580, SN770
High end: SN850X
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU: compare value for money & features, Optiscaler mod expands FSR4 support
Budget: Arc B580, used cards
Mid range: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-performance 1440p & Mid-range 4K: RX 9070 XT, RTX 5070 Ti
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX550/650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: Acer M3BMIIPRX, AOC Q27G3XMN (stable), NEW Q27G40XMN (beware: QC lottery)
4K: Gigabyte M28U/M27UA, ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>> >>105707358

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid-range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 G2, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>105744483

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super series rumor update (5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB)
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-also-planning-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-super-with-24gb-gddr7-memory

>Product Advisory
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: Thermal gel solution has QC issues.
Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/
https://www.igorslab.de/en/gigabytes-so-called-server-grade-thermal-conductive-gel-and-a-degrading-thermal-paste-on-the-radeon-rx-9070-gaming-oc/

AOC Q27G40XMN: Nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor if you win the QC lottery.
Bad one causes HDR content to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option [Strongest].

>Additional PSU Reviews
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies

For PSU tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?usp=sharing

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if its price/performance is good & if you're willing to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks in the future.
RX 9070 non-XT: Recommendations are based on US prices, current 9070 prices are too close to the 9070XT to justify a recommendation.

>Others
Leave constructive feedback to help improve the OP (including news worth sharing).
Share PC building-adjacent interesting/silly images for the next OPs.

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>>105748669 (OP)
Will there ever be an Intel Arc B770? C770???
I need to know!

>>105748708
It's rumored, but seeing how Intel is still trying to get their shit together...

fr though, how do i get rid of this thermal throttle?

>>105748730
way to dox yourself, yuropoor

>>105748761
?

>>105748765
timezone. either yurop either africa?

>>105748730
You can't get rid of it, you have a Laptop.

>>105748795
yeah, so?
>>105748799
why

ok, im going to sleep
i hope i can return my nigger mobo still

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-also-planning-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-super-with-24gb-gddr7-memory
I kept telling everyone at the start of the year when the vanilla 5000s paper launched and had trash drivers so wait for the SUPER refresh. I can't understand why Nvidia didn't just delay the release and make these the default versions to begin with. Save those dies to minted on satisfactory board configs.

>>105748828
>i hope i can return my nigger mobo still
What happened to your motherboard Anon? Did you try to fuck the PCIe x16 slot like we told you not to?

>>105748812
It throttles because your Laptop has insufficient cooling and how would you change this? Why don't you show us the CPU temps in HWiNFO?

>>105748726
didn't they lay off shitload of engineers just recently

>>105748963
The 24GB cards will be SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive muh fren.

>>105748963
They can scam people for less .
The 5090 was the only viable card until the price jumped and now the non super cards are even more of a scam but the green jew will have them cost too much to justify it I'm guessing

>>105748963
They ended Lovelace production >1 quarter ago
If they did that, they'd have no midranger/high-end GPUs to sell for more than half a year

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v4YXt3

Budget of 2000 USD. Will not budge on the case. All I care about is playing Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440p/90 FPS. I have not looked at the PC parts market since I decided to waitfag past the 4000 series and the first six months of the 5000 series.

>>105749028
>meshify 2 when meshify 3 is available and its cheaper
why
cyberpunk is gpu bound, but im pretty sure 9800x3d is a much better deal

>>105749028
cp scales real well on cpus so going for 9800x3d makes most sense
then for path traced cp you want 5070 ti at minimum
obviously oled monitor is most relevant upgrade so you get the hdr

>>105748669 (OP)
what is wrong with that picture? seems fine to me. probably just silicon lottery and got a bad chip.

>>105749028
Building a PC for just one game is the stupidest idea ever. Are you even fucking serious?

>>105749103
weird radiator positioning

>>105749091
I was not aware the Meshify 3 was out, thanks for the tip. Like I said, I've been out of the loop.
>>105749126
No, not really, CP2077 is just the most demanding piece of modern AAA gayming shit I care about, so I figure that if I can get that looking good, I'll be set.

>>105749103
It's a single fan 140mm radiator AIO, probably even blowing against the resistance of the fan grill to the rear. No wonder the CPU gets hot like hell. With such a small rad you would need a very high throughput of air but this setup can't provide it.

>>105749028
>Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440p/90 FPS.
that's still impossible with rt overdrive on a 5090

>>105749103
Ass AIO will never cool a 12900KYS in a billion years

>>105749028
See
>>105749076

Commander X16 vs geforce rtx 5050.

This is me. Thanks guys. Likely upgrade the cpu soon, and maybe sleeve some cables to replace the extensions.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gNgqwY

>>105749028
get a better board that support PCIe 5.0 NVMe
also cheapen up the CPU and get a better GPU
and try to spring for a 2x32gb RAM set

>>105749171
You don't want air to move fast through a radiator. You want it to heatsoak right up near the maximum capacity. This is why race cars duct air into diffusers just before the radiator, raising pressure and reducing velocity, and then nozzle the velocity back up to get rid of it. These are so efficient that they have to tape up half the radiator to keep the engine warm.

My guess is OP doesnt even have any coolant in that shit, or massive air bubbles.

>>105749076
>>105749193
QRD on shilling Another Management Disasters 9070 vs Njudea 5070?

>>105749028
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v4YXt3
>Budget of 2000 USD. Will not budge on the case. All I care about is playing Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440p/90 FPS. I have not looked at the PC parts market since I decided to waitfag past the 4000 series and the first six months of the 5000 series.
Right now the 9700X is a bit overpriced, when the 14600K matches it in Gaming/MT for less. If you aren't going to splurge for the X3D chip for gaming it's better to take the savings from a midrange CPU and plow them back into the GPU.
See: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/27.html

Raptor has the advantage that you can use 32GB of DDR4 3200CL16 which has about the same performance as DDR5-5000CL30 for half the price. Slightly overpaying for your Cooler, SDD and PSU.

Edited PCPP List ($400 Saved): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HycMYd

For the GPU, I really don't like the idea of you spending over half a grand on a GPU with only a 12GB VRAM buffer especially when Nvidia is updating the same GPU with 18GB of VRAM in a few months >>105748963 Even @ 1440p you might run into a few situations in the future with newer games or Game Mods where you'd become VRAM bottle-necked at have lower texture quality forced on you even if the underlying GPU horsepower was plenty. I left the 5070 as-is bit I'd personally suggest taking some of the savings and getting the more powerful RX 9070 with 16GB of VRAM for an extra $100:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zvjv6h/sapphire-nitro-radeon-rx-9070-16-gb-video-card-11349-01-20g
There's a cheaper model for $600 if it ever comes back in stock:
https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-rx9070xt-16g-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814126787?Item=N82E16814126787
CP2077 Benches: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asrock-radeon-rx-9070-steel-legend-oc/13.html
Alternatively I'd wait for the 5070 Super.

>>105749217
>rgb keyboard costs almost as much as cpu
>standalone wifi adapter
>overpriced gayming ssd with a meme heatsink
>3rd party cables in general
just why

>>105749247
it'll be years before that GPU is anywhere near $600

>>105749103
Ive used single fan rads before on a 3930k and it was horrible. Couldn't even sustain 130W on that CPU when 240mm aios were cooling upwards of 200W. A 120mm tower air cooler literally cooled better than that single fan aio did.
The 12900KS is a super binned high voltage part that runs even hotter than most intel i9s and will need a 280 or 360mm aio at minimum to have good performance.

I am thinking of making a half life 1 themed build. Think this would work well? If so, any ideas for fans to go with it to match that theme?

I am using and enjoying my Sapphire PULSE AMD Radeon™ RX 9070 XT GPU for occasional gaming and upscaling pornography from the early 2000s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDTXQhZxAE
i'm so lonely

>>105749453
Totally not sponsored by Assus.

>>105749456
And it's all Iran's fault

>>105749458
those tits need to be sponsored by my cock
because she has large fat tits and i would like to have sexual intercourse with that woman

>>105749453
>linktree in her bio
we all know what that means

>>105749021
its crazy to me that stuff like 3000 and 4000 are already dead in production support while stuff like ps5 and ps4 are still being made

>>105749241
> You don't want air to move fast through a radiator.
With a 140mm rad you have no choice, it has only little surface.

>>105749241
cpu rads have an order of magnitude less heat, flowrate and airflow to deal with so that's inapplicable in this case
>coolant
its fixed to about 70ml in a 140mm rad from the factory and is not user serviceable in any way

>>105749406
also, how would this layout work? I feel like if I put the AIO on the top its just going to soak exhaust heat from the GPU. I also felt like if I only have 1 output back fan its going to limit the heat trying to get out of the case.

>>105749596
Soaking exhaust heat from the GPU isn't a big deal if you have a low powered CPU like the 9800x3d

>>105749456
brand loyalty is fucking retarded
i need them to fix the gpu market

>>105748730
Take the laptop to a reliable PC/laptop repair shop.
Ask them to repaste the CPU & GPU with PTM7950 and repad other components.
Buy the materials for them if they don't have PTM.

>>105749028
>>105749076
EVGA Supernova is a Super Old meme, EVGA is winding down their business and that PSU will only have a 3-year warranty.
I would get the Corsair RM750x instead (good parts, 10 year warranty).
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JPMMnQ/corsair-rm750x-2024-750-w-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020285-na

>>105749456
Intel will be bailed out by the US government/tax payers.
But US government officials are worried whether Intel can get their shit back together to pay off the emergency loans (+interest).

>>105748963
Why are you sucking corpo cock please stop like we get it you want jensen to fuck you in the ass especially considering you are telling people to wait for more garbage blow your fucking brains out cunt and just fuck off forever

>>105749596
route it so the pump block isn't the highest point in the system, besides that it should be fine

>>105748963
>I can't understand why Nvidia didn't just delay the release and make these the default versions to begin with

any good guide kr checklists on what to do after installing windows?

How much of an upgrade am I getting if im going from a 1080p 27in 60hz VA panel from 2017 to an 2024 165 hz ips 24in 1080p panel(with adaptive sync) ?

>>105749667
>t. fell for the Red Team meme

>>105749688
I always refer people to these videos (watch @ 2X if desired):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY7iNTMjdrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpnLehvOM6E

>>105749710
Upgrading to an IPS is huge. Otherwise, if your PC can keep up, that FPS gain should be nice too.

>>105749710
Kind of a a side-grade to be honest.
+ Faster Panel
+ Wider viewing angles
+ Better Color
- Worse Contrast
- Worse Pixel Density/Sharpness

I'd spring for a 1440p 27" Fast-IPS if it were me.

>>105749750
I would go for an 1440p monitor if I could but its not in my price range.

Also I thought since im scaling down from 27in to 24in, it will look a little bit sharper or did I read some misinformation?

>i dont need fake frames
>i dont need fake resolution
>i dont need superior anti-aliasing
>i dont need fsr4
reading amdbabs cope after getting rugpulled on rdna3 is so funny

>>105749830
people gotta justify their poor purchase somehow

>>105748669 (OP)
Between budget VA and IPS monitors, which tends to be easier on the eyes? I've seen conflicting reports...

>>105749797
>Also I thought since im scaling down from 27in to 24in, it will look a little bit sharper or did I read some misinformation?
No, I'm >>105749750 and you're correct (I read your post wrong and thought you were going TO a 27" 1080p panel instead of FROM one). 24" @ 1080p looks fine and will be sharper than 27" @ 1080p, the issue is you are used to a 27" size panel so downgrading may make things look really small to start with and take awhile to get used to unless you scoot the monitor much closer to your sitting position.

What country are you in, and what's your max monitor budget?

>>105749859
VA has the worst VRR flickering, this could be a deal breaker for some people.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/learn/research/vrr-flicker

It's important to buy a monitor from a retailer with a good return/refund policy.
A monitor is something you have to try out.

>>105749859
IPS tend to be the better all-arounder unless you get VERY specific VAs like the new AOC Q27G40XMN.
Budget VAs tend to be way too slow coming out of dark color values resulting in inverse ghosting/smearing and have narrow viewing angles (prone to color and gamma shift/washout from off-angle positions).

>>105749859
For low budget VA you have to be careful, theres a few models out theres with good pixel response times but most are bad.
odyssey g6, neo g7, AOC Q27G40XMN are fine

If you cant afford those you prob want an ips

>>105749866
USA, max budget is $130, prime day is coming soon so I expect to get a monitor around ~$100. My GPU is 6600 8gb so I doubt getting a 1440p monitor will help me that much.

>>105749406
what even are the colour schemes of halflife 1? Also just pick another game with a more distinctive colour scheme. Make a Palworld one and stick figurines inside it i dunno.

>>105749585
thats one of the dumbest setups i've ever seen in my life anon. Put the AIO on the top, have the fans on the bottom EXHAUST air, not intake, and make the rear fan exhaust aswell. The GPU will be blowing air down and the bottom fans will assist sucking that air out, the rear exhaust fan is to keep moving air away from the VRMs + capacitors around the cpu.

RDNA1, 2, and 3 were all scams

>>105749432
>upscaling pornography from the early 2000s
>thinking about all that porn i finally tracked down from the pornstars i gooned to as a teen
The pornstars from back in the day just look different+better than modern whores, i dunno what it is, shame about the dogshit resolutions and picture qualities lol.

>>105749932
Just like how gtx700, 900 and 1000 were all scams

is arc a750 good enuff for 4k 60hz av1 stuff
can get it for 150 usd, power efficiency is concern
i wanted b580 but non existant around me

>>105749944
trvke
anyone who bought RDNA1 looks particularly retarded right now

>>105749710
pic related you giga-pleb.

>>105748669 (OP)
>>105748674
Why do we all of the sudden have a reasonable op? What happened to the amd shilling? Did Lisa run out of rupees to pay them?

>>105749967
what about 1440p 16:9

>>105749967
1440p is the retard choice, no native movies or tvshow, everything will be upscaled or downscaled.
4K is still the chad's choice.

>>105749967
Impressive double sided cope.

4k is for 5090 chads

>>105749710
VA is a lot better than it used to be. Smearing is basically nonexistant now
Go for either a higher refresh rate or 1440p though.

>>105749975
nicojeetroon saar acked

>>105749907
https://www.amazon.com/ARZOPA-2560x1440-Computer-Adaptive-Sync-Response/dp/B0D2W7LCN9
^27" 1440p@180Hz Fast-IPS w/Adaptive-Sync for $130 (on sale for the next ~5 hours). All of these budget fast-IPS displays use the same bunch of 1-3 panels (I think mostly by Innolux IIRC) so there's not much difference performance-wise between them other than price. This way you wouldn't have to compromise on viewable size or resolution clarity (also slightly beats that 165Hz panel you were looking at as far as input latency goes).

There's also another option for $140 (not a sale price) with the same specs:
https://www.amazon.com/SANSUI-Monitor-Computer-ES-G27F2Q-Included/dp/B0CWCWL81G
And a splurge known-good option for $152 (same model, different monitor stand so SKU is a little different)
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-pg27qft1b-27-qhd-180-hz-ips-black/p/N82E16824946003
https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asrock-phantom-gaming-pg27qft2a

You can see what's on offer for Prime Day but don't think your budget prices you out of 27" 1440p territory and like >>105749882 said once you get a monitor, particularly on Amazon, and try it out and if you don't like it for [X] Reason just send it back,

>>105749406
>If so, any ideas for fans to go with it to match that theme?

an unplugged fan thats been "jammed" by a crowbar or physics prop

stranded scientist somewhere high in the case

green goo

fastroping marines hanging from the ceiling

gman peeking out of something

round desktop speakers painted like houndeyes

gay shit like that

>>105749986
>upscaled tv shows and movies.
Retard, either the scaling will not be noticeable because you have pixels too small to see, or there will be black bars in the blank spots that you wont even notice.

Also old movies from the 80s and before scale perfectly with 1440p ultrawide monitors and fill the entire screen.

>>105749978
good, but objectively inferior to ultrawide, and the price of the low-end 1440p ultrawides are just not that much more expensive. I personally went from 16:9 to ultrawide and loved it.

>>105750006
Cheers anon. Looks like i need to do better research next time. With that said since I have an rx 6600, won't games look worse since I have to scale down to 1080p? 1440p would be great for everything else I do tho

>>105749932
RDNA1 and 2 were good for their time.
The 5700XT forced NVIDIA to make RTX 20 Super refresh cards (had to make 2070 Super, it was too close to the regular 2080 so NVIDIA also made a 2080 Super).
RDNA2 GPUs were made on a better node than RTX 30, which pushed NVIDIA to go hard on the GPU specs from top to bottom.
Most of the RDNA2 cards put up a fight against their RTX 30 counterparts (RT was still relatively nascent & DLSS was starting to get taken seriously.).

RDNA3 was AMD selling a not fully-cooked GPU, 7800XT and the GRE were justifiable if you needed a new card.
7900 XT maybe when it was discounted closer to $600.

>>105749937
>The pornstars from back in the day just look different+better than modern whores, i dunno what it is
It's because of social media and the influencer industry, I'm not kidding.
All those beautiful pornstars of the past were born too soon to make easy money being Instagram/OnlyFans models.

You notice this in JAVs too, the actresses aren't as hot as they used to be.
The smokeshows don't necessarily have to resort to hardcore porn anymore.
Good for them, bad for (us).

>>105750080
>It's because of social media and the influencer industry, I'm not kidding.
thats definitely part of it, but there's still really hot pornstars, but they're just DIFFERENT, in whats hot about them, their features etc. Even the non-jav asian pornstars look totally different to modern asian stars. Kobe Tai's modern equivalent is what? marica hase? she's already over the hill and has a totally different physique.

>>105750067
surely you can shop around for a used gpu from the previous gen? 6600xt is pretty weak.

>>105750067
Might depend on the game, but these days as long as you don't go All-Low settings even Medium looks basically identical to Ultra as console-performance targets are king. Also you'd rather have a display you can grow your system with upgrade-to-upgrade than the other way around as like you said 1440p already will better for every non-gaming scenario you use this system with.

The 5070 super sounds too good to be true. It'll be the ultimate midrange card. I just hope they price it at the 5070 msrp and drop the price of the old card. I've waited so long.

PC is pain ):

>>105750230
Pc is love.

>>105750197
Buddy, you're not getting a GeForce card with 18GB of VRAM for just $550.
If the specs turn out to be true, be glad to buy one for $700 kek.

Where are the affordable SM2508 drives?

>>105749986
>downscaling is bad
why are there so many tech illiterates on /g/

Anything I should change in this build?
$2700 usd.
Currently in Australia so pricing not the bestest.

>>105749456
Intel FAbs may not die. but intel is fumbling real hard. ON paper ARL is supposed to be better than Zen5 but it is no. they took modularity and made a chip that has like 4 custom dyes and a very advanced substrate on n3 from tsmc and lost to a organic substrate n4 chip from AMD. their density is crap on a desing level.
>>105749656
No. intel it is not going to be bailed out. Fabs maybe but intel as a whole? idts.

>>105750390
Change the memory to CL30 if the price jump isn’t too much, not a big performance difference but it’s better.

>>105748963
The current launch is probably something contractual and obligated. I'm sure reducing the amount of distinct SKUs would have probably saved them some money.

>>105750390
Here's an alt build for reference that's only ~$2400 AUD:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/MBCrBq

Swaps the 9800X3D for the cheaper 13600KF and the 5070 Ti for 7900 XTX which is the same or slightly better performing with 24GB of VRAM.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pny-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-epic-x-rgb-plus-oc/33.html
Also doubles your NVME storage to 2TB.

>>105750390
change the ram like other anon suggested
and also the psu to an equivalent seasonic, superflower, corsair or msi one.
>>105750533
This build sucks so much that it makes his original 9800x3d/5070ti build look like a steal

>>105750550
>This build sucks so much that it makes his original 9800x3d/5070ti build look like a steal
How? It's substantially cheaper for the same or better gaming perf with more storage and VRAM.
Unless he's playing MMORPGs or Grand Strat/City Builder games the 9800X3D is just not worth premium AMD is asking for it, especially at nearly ~$900 AUD down there:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/fPyH99/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-47-ghz-8-core-processor-100-1000001084wof

Don't buy dogshit incel

They need to make a case that is explicitly meant to use twin AIOs that are mounted externally in a vertical position, pointing in different directions so that the hot exhaust never mixes. Like a sort of half-open-bench design. The grommets for the tubes can be half assed and don't really matter because the small case shell itself only needs one or two side fans pointed directly at the motherboard, it can be purely intake-only with every other hole being a natural pressure escape. A set of 120mm and 140mm wide clip-on dust filters will do for the AIO fans. As an added extra such a design could be placed on its back so that crazy overclockers can pour liquid directly onto both AIO radiators, maybe some custom setup with the fans removed and liquid just being waterfalled over them.

>>105750254
$600 - $625
It's a refresh so there's a price cut.
It's a big long-term improvement that requires more materials, max binning the chip and more power delivery, so there's a price bump.
$600 versus the MSRP of 5070 Ti (and having 2GB more VRAM) seems reasonable, $625 versus the typical street price is even more reasonable. Video cards are always less price to performance efficient the smaller you go, its just the nature of things.

>>105750580
>for the same or better gaming perf
Hehe anon you're cute but don't try something so dastardly with an innocent man.

>>105750390
pick a better AIO, arctic freezer III or phanteks for performance (pccasegear sells them) or TRYX for insane aesthetics. Get a dedicated OS drive, and 1 or more data/gaming m.2s/SSDs etc. Better to compartmentalise them.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PgN4GJ
thoughts on this build? for light 4k gaming.

>>105750868
What do you need a $200 motherboard for?
What do you need 96 GB of RAM for?
Why are you spending $85 on fans?
Why are you spending $300 on a PSU and not even getting 80+ Titanium?
Why are you buying Windows?
X3D doesn't really add any performance at 4k

This is a troll build, right?

>>105750868
>Assrock
>Turdgroup
>Gigabites-ass
you got 3 of the 4 horsemen of the tech apocalypse there. swap them for different manufacturers anon. MSI motherboard, Gskill CL30, 64gigs of 6000mhz ram, and a 9070 with its AIO made by literally any other company.

>>105750909
>X3D doesn't really add any performance at 4k
depends on the game you clown. Loads of low-res, poorly optimised indie games with cpu-heavy workloads where an X3D will shine. If you're spending the money there's no reason NOT to get x3d either.

>>105750932
Those games will run at 200+ FPS with a non-X3D anyway. The point is that there's no reason to spend the money, you can use it for hookers and blow instead.

>>105750868
Way too much on the PSU, Windows, RAM, and fans.

>>105750949
you should rethink giving advice in this general, you possess a 1080poverty, third world mindset, when some people are trying to purchase parts that will remain future-proofed so they don't need to care about them in ~5 years time.

A great cpu is often kept and not upgraded much longer than gpus. Figure it out, and stop giving bad advice.

>>105750958
Try again, I spend my money where it's beneficial to do so and not where it's technically maybe a little bit better for some obscure game that no one plays and maybe I might not upgrade for another 20 years.

Let's see your hardware, richfag.

>>105750868
>assrock + 9800X3D
No unless you want a dead CPU
>ram
96GB only if you use virtual machines and do video editing, otherwise 64. Also just get a DDR-6000 so you don't have have to run the memory controller in 2:1 mode (doubly so if that stick isn't on the QVL)
>gpu
I'd go Nvidia at that price but w/e
>PSU
Just get an RM850X for cheaper
>windows
There are free (or cheaper) alternatives than paying retail for that shit
>fans
Love my NF-A14's but that price blows fucking ass for 2 fans. I could get riced out Lian li screen fans for that price. NF-A14 PWM are like $27 a pop in Canada and we are notorious for being ripped off

>>105750965
9950x3d
64gigs 6000mhz gskill
arctic freezer III 360
antec flux pro case
msi x870 tomahawk (i've had issues in the past with cheaper mobos so i overspend and lifes easier)
hsp hydro 1000w platinum psu
4tb samsung ssd-data
500gig samsung-OS drive
4tb 990 pro samsung m.2 gen4-games
1tb+2tb budget M.2s i don't use for much anymore, will fill them with pirated movies later i suppose.
7900xtx, no point in upgrading it until maybe next gen, i don't buy Njudea, never have, i have too much self respect and i just game anyway.

>>105751023
>Literally double the cost of my build
>Slower at games
>Thinking about spending even more money on it in the near future
Maybe you should rethink giving advice in this general.

>>105751071
>thinks its slower at games
>complains about the cost, as if i cared when i chose the parts
>complains about the cost when he paypigs for a fucking Njudean gpu
>soo ashamed of his build he didnt even post a photo, must look ugly as shit, like him
>no anime figurines either i bet, what a fag!
lmao @ your life. You don't even have a figurine of Best Girl? pfft.

>>105751071
Nigger, you have shit ram, 8 cores with no vcache and only 750gb of storage. You don't get to decide what's a good or bad rig

>>105751092
>It is
>Presumably people asking for help care about cost, otherwise they'd just sort by cost and buy the most expensive trash like you did
>My njewdia card cost $250 less than yours, is faster, and I do more than play vidya gaems with it

>>105751110
RAM speed literally does not matter whatsoever outside of RAM benchmarks and Factorio.

Are the AM5 issues just ASRock? I'm seeing some people online vaguely hint that it is other vendors as well but I've not seen anyone definitively say any other brand is having issues.

>>105751144
All brands have had problems, but ASRock has had like 20x more reports than any other brand. Their shills like to cope by saying ASRock sells 20x more motherboards than any other brand, which is a lie.

>>105751144
Some CPU failures is expected but Asrock is overrepresented in failure reports so it's mostly an Asrock problem and the remaining is down to manufacturing problems at tsmc

Another price drop, bros!!

>>105751274
>ventus
hell naw. spend the extra $500 on an astral/suprim or don't bother.

you gotta give em' that Noc Tua and cool on that thang

I love it whenever nvidia finally adds a feature that amd has enjoyed having for nearly half a decade

>>105751284
there's nothing wrong with the ventus

>>105751384
Ackshually amd has supported that feature since GCN1.0 so it only took nvidia 13 years to finally be on par with amd

>>105750909
What do you need a $200 motherboard for?
I want USB4
What do you need 96 GB of RAM for?
I keep a lot of tabs open.
Why are you spending $85 on fans?
I want quiet fans.
Why are you spending $300 on a PSU and not even getting 80+ Titanium?
Fair, but it's actually only $200
Why are you buying Windows?
I can afford it.

Newfag here
Im trying to learn what I can to build a cyberdeck (of sorts), and Id like to include a LOT of types of various ports in it (including radio antenna connections for SDRs).
What should I know if I want to try and do that?

>>105751326
>140 bucks
Damn this shit is even more expensive 360mm aio

>>105748963
Retard here, why do i need more vram?

>>105748669 (OP)
>>MOTHERBOARD
>ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported, BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

So can I get a refund on the CPU that was fried? The 9800x3D got killed by shitrock MOBOS, idk if it was cause of that PBO bullshit or whatever but

>>105751705
they will just give you a new cpu for free

>>105751705
And has got you covered
Sell the board or trash it and get one from a reputable brand

>>105750526
Honestly expected more shift towards 4k

Glossy vs matte monitors ?

While the Nvidia schizos are asleep, FSR4 got even better on RDNA3.

>>105748669 (OP)
How's this? Not looking for anything TOO too fancy.

>>105751927
mostly curious about the video card

>>105751925
>Better and faster than native 4k
Based

>>105751925
Rdna3 chads don't need that upscaling cope because we have raw performance

>>105750421
>>105750533
>>105750550

Found this aswell - took the upgrades on RAM and Cooler.

>>105752032
Price is 2800 usd

>>105752026
you have worse raw performance than a 5070ti

>>105752042
5070ti is slower and driver crashes

>>105752052
5070ti is faster by about 1% on average and 5090 gods NIGGER RAPE ALL AMD NIGGER GARBAGE

>>105752060
>cherrypicking a game nobody plays
AYYMD NIGGER SLOP

>>105752083
Techpowerup is garbage site

>>105752097
lol

>>105752097
dark skinned AMD nigger cope

>>105750024
You sound extremely poor especially if you can't run 4k high refresh ultrawide or afford a 4k monitor lmfao

>>105751130
>RAM speed literally does not matter whatsoever outside of RAM benchmarks and Factorio
post monster hunter wilds, KCD 2, starfield, CS2 and BG3 FPS numbers right now
>inb4 you don't need that

>>105752005
>Better and faster than native 4k
Incorrect native will always be better and faster then any upscaling tech when done correctly humans shit on AI cope and seethe

>>105752060
These are old benchmarks you dumb cunt find newer ones or shut the fuck up

7600X - 7800 XT - 32GB RAM is still going strong, no regrets.

>>105751834
Any recommended? Is GIGABYTE good?

>>105749127
From the picture it says it's should not optimal. The problem is probably that it's only one fucking fan which is insufficient for intel housefire.

>>105752321
MSI b850 tomahawk or x870e tomahawk
Gigabyte b850 aorus elite

>>105752321
Everything not Asrock good, that's all you need to know. However those guys have different prices, in which case ASUS also bad because they are absurdly overpriced while doing the same thing as everyone else. Chinese board brands can be okay but the problem is unless they are explicitly meant for global export the manual and firmware are likely to be in Chinese.

How does the b580 work for linux? Don't wanna waste money on a overpriced gpu but I refuse to use windows after a recent update fucked me.

>>105748977
the temps are 40, thats normal i think
but youre saying if i add more cooling it will return to its normal clock speed?

>>105752613
if the motherboard page says it supports windows 10 then 99% it also supports linux. if it only says windows 11 then theres still a good chance, but you might have to tinker to get it to work

>>105752613
drivers are probably still pretty mediocre, most games will run but performance will be worse than windows
xess only works in fallback mode (like you're using it on an AMD or NVIDIA card)
just go AMD

>be me
>Go to local retail store
>They have s90c on outlet section without price
>Ask for price
>They give me a 700€ higher price than s90d currently
What is the point when they all try to swindle you
Buying irl is useless they never have good prices
America seems like heaven in comparison

>>105752613
your best bet for linux is AMD right now because of the steam deck

Built a brand new system with a Rog strix B650E-I and a 7600, worked flawlessly for a few days

Now i wake it from sleep, boots into BIOS, save and exit, it boots into windows no problem just like before

Culprit? I don’t get it

>>105752929
update bios
double check bootloader selection
double check windows settings

I guess this is the appropriate thread for this.

>using the PC like normal when I suddenly hear the click of the power button followed by the PC shutting down
>it immediately switches on again but there's no picture on the screen anymore
>wait a few minutes and then manually turn it off and on, but no change
>open the case and pay attention to the peripherals when starting
>motherboard has a lit LED, CPU fan works, keyboard lights flash as usual, even the old HDD seems to be making some sounds
>nothing is being output to the screen and the GPU fans also aren't spinning
I assume the part that failed was the GPU, but is there a way for me to confirm this in some way? Can I access bios with just the CPU if I disconnect the GPU?

are ultrawide monitors retarded?
when you think about it when gaming your focus is normally on a small 4:3 portion of the screen at any given time and maybe 16:9 if your sitting far back.
21:9 or even 32:9 just seem overkill.

Is push/pull an improvement over just push on a radiator? I can't find a clear answer on this, most people say it's not worth it but I haven't seen much in the way of explanation or evidence.

>>105753057
I’ll update BIOS, but i only have one drive installed, why would priority matter? It can only boot from one device

Friend is looking to splooge on a new high end pc.
I put this together, around 6200usd.

Looking for cost effective drives, long term storage.

>>105752032
>>105752041
that cpu is a downgrade over the 9800x3d for gaming since it's cores are in the 6+6 layout meaning you only have 6 vcache cores

Is the 5070ti worth the extra 300 euros compared to the 5070?

>>105753440
This is like... the tail end of a console generation. It's a terrible time to get anything. Just wait till the ps6 comes out and then get whatever is newest and you'll be set for a decade.

>>105753350
>Inet
mein neger

>all black build
>white aio
?

>5149 SEK PSU
this could easily be 3000 SEK cheaper going with any other 1000-1200w psu

>b650 mobo in this build
really? not even sure it will boot without updates

>2TB nvme
good if you are a one game andy maybe

>>105750868
Your TeamGroup memory kit is fine, that speed and capacity is stressful to the CPU's memory controller but it's been tested in the board's QVL.

GSkill is preferred if you're looking for a more tightly binned, CL26/28 6000MT/s kit.

>>105751144
>Are the AM5 issues just ASRock?
It's probably AMD's fault for sharing lenient CPU electrical specs with board partners.
ASRock admitted they set the PBO's TDC & EDC on the higher side of the spec, but AMD is the one that sets maximum current.

>>105751563
NVIDIA wants to attract more local AI hobbyists, creators, and students to buy these cards.
The 5080 Super and the 5070 Ti Super GPUs (the chip, not the whole card) are just getting a higher factory-set boost clock.
5070 Super is getting a minor bump in compute cores (6144 -> 6400).

>>105753467
Incredible site.

The stuff will be bought elsewhere, black cooler wasn't even on their site, really strange.

Yeah the psu is overkill, I've just never had any issues with them, great cables and quality.
Are all bigger brand psus equivalent to each other these days?

It's been 2generations since I researched parts, is b650 old and just doesn't have the stock updates to support am5?

He has a ton of storage already, 2tb is a good starter too feel it out.
Probably going to do like me and get ton of ssds during a sale.

>>105751866
Depends on how much ambient light is directly hitting your monitor.

>>105752032
9900X3D is too in between, the compute chiplets are split into 6 cores.
You're basically using a faster 9600X3D when gaming (other chiplet is parked in most games).
I would get 9800X3D if this is a gaming PC.

>>105753096
>Can I access bios with just the CPU if I disconnect the GPU?
If your CPU has an iGPU, yes.

>>105753105
I wouldn't mind ultrawide monitors if game developers properly supported that resolution including better UI customization.

>>105753350
Parts look okay but there's a noticeable amount of complaints online about the Dark Power/Pro PSU.

>>105751023
>i don't buy Njudea, never have
And I bet you bought that 7900 XTX at a discount like the rest of the copers because you felt AMD was overcharging them @ MSRP.
The irony.

>>105749171
>single fan radiator for a intel housefire cpu
>what could be a air cooled 4090's worth of exhaust air to be blown through that small radiator
>the fan on the radiator could be blowing in suboptimal direction

5700/5800x3d still worth it for games that may not significantly benefit from x3d or go with a 5800xt for $100+ cheaper?

>>105753561
>air cooled 4090
even worse, its a 3090ti

>>105753507
>Are all bigger brand psus equivalent to each other these days?
if it has 10 year warranty and there is nothing genuinely reported wrong like a loud fan on a psu I don't see the difference when you can get a 1000w+ psu for like 2000
but you can also save like 6000 getting another 5090 model and so on, I would get asus because ptm thermal pads and dual hdmi 2.1
>is b650 old and just doesn't have the stock updates to support am5?
more hassle and also less pcie5 slots and probably worse ram support
although I have not checked out mobos in a second either
mobo prices are that far off either

>>105753652
did you just answer your own question
however I would never buy a non x3d ryzen if that answers your question too

>>105751925
>>105752005
>FSR4 got even better on RDNA3.
Still worse performance compared to running FSR4 on RDNA4 at any resolution.

>>105753652
>5800x3d
is still the best value cpu on the market if you can get it for super cheap 2nd hand
anyone who got one when it came out is still having a great time gaming on it

7800x3d/9800x3d are both cope

>>105753667
>did you just answer your own question
No? I'm asking for games that aren't factorio if the small boost X3D gives is higher than what you would otherwise gain from the higher clock and core performance of a non-X3D cpu

>>105753744
Yeah super cheap good luck with that, even the broke shit on ebay starts at 200 and actually functioning ones over 300. The only cheap 5800X3D you're going to get are those box only bullshit scam listings.

>>105753832
>even the broke shit on ebay starts at 200
5800x3ds degrade that fast huh?

>>105753520
>>105753667
I wasn't aware of lian lis own psu for the case, half the price too, same cables.

As for the gpu, it's a bit of a taste, both of them are great quality.
I'm looking got b850e motherboards now.

Fuck me couldn't fine lian li A3 case anywhere

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/shGn4p

Current build that i originally built in like 2016. I upgraded the GPU last winter, but the cpu is lagging behind. I want to upgrade the CPU, motherboard, RAM and maybe the PSU.

The additional parts that i haven't inputted are a custom water cooling loop, and my case is the sliger cerberus X so it supports atx sized motherboards.

Cooling i will sort out myself, and my budget is about 550 eur. I will mainly use the PC for gaming, relatively light, stuff like elden ring, league, CSGO, marvel rivals. I don't really play AAA games.

>>105754514
which country?

>>105748963
I love how retards like you feel vindicated that they kept people from buying the 5080 because in maybe 6+ months at the least the super version will come out. So what? I will just sell my current one and "lose" like 200 bucks but I had a good GPU for all this time instead of waiting and waiting and waiting

Is it normal for a CPU to idle at 65C? It's like 30C in my apartment right now so a little higher is to be expected. It goes past 90 under load and starts throttling. It's a 9600X with a Noctua NH-L9x65 on it.

>ITX case
>280-300mm length clearance for dual slot gpu
>no fucking riser cable/not sandwich layout
>cpu cooler clearance 100mm+ for a big block
>room for sfx power supply

does it fucking exist?

>>105754672
Normal for ITX cooling, disable PBO.

>>105754692
Knew I shouldn't have cheaped out on the cooler. This is an ATX case. I'll try disabling PBO. Might just switch out the fuckhuge cooler I have in my server with this one since the server barely does anything anyway.

>>105754537
In Denmark

>>105753832
>I'm asking for games that aren't factorio if the small boost X3D gives is higher than what you would otherwise gain from the higher clock and core performance of a non-X3D cpu
you are thinking in the wrong way the non x3d cpus are simply not outperforming the non x3ds in any game due to slight higher clocks
it's not gonna happen
inb4 some benchmark where it does happen

>>105753744
>higher performance is cope
just because you are a poorfag does not mean you have to be delusional too

>>105754728
Buy one of the two dual tower coolers listed in the OP if your case can fit it. the first one costs $30, 2nd one less than $40.

>>105754807
Those are cheap wow. They're gonna have better performance than this one?

>>105754828
They will cool your CPU just fine.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/id-cooling-frozn-a620-pro-se-cpu-air-cooler/6.html

Longevity of the fans is the question mark but you’re getting so much value.
If one of the fans start to rattle you can replace it with a better one in the future

>>105754897
Alright gonna order the a620. Should've just gone with the NH-D15 from the start desu. Feel a bit fucked.

>>105754928
Peerless Assassin V3 might have slightly better fans. It’s got a fan update from the older versions.
Can’t say for sure.

>>105754514
>>105754755
>https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZdWBpK

Poorfag NEET here, looking to upgrade my old 1080@144Hz TN, will I see a big improvement with a 1080p@300Hz IPS in terms of motion clarity? I don't care about higher res (since I can't afford to drive it without sacrificing framerate), so don't bother suggesting that.

>>105755090
If you can drive 1080p at 300 Hz, you can drive 1440p at 144 Hz.

>>105750868
I did a very similar build.

I went the cheap mobo/ram route this time and I regret it. I cant get stable overclocking on anything. Enabling "automatic" cpu settings in the bios or memory expo profiles leads to constant black screens.

Updated firmware. Tried doing it manually. Tried undervolting. Trried overvolting. Tried freq. Tried every default setting. Nope. Black screens after 10 minutes of gaming.

You can roll the dice and hopefully you have better luck. All I knkw is it was not worth the $100 or so I "saved" by going cheap. First AMD chip btw. Probably the last.

>>105755090
240hz with motion blur reduction looks way better than even 360hz

>>105755108
What board and ram do you have? Might be salvageable just from changing to a ram kit with Hynix a/m-die

>>105755102
Sure, but I'd pick the first option any day.

>>105755108
Share your CPU, motherboard, and memory info.
I think even a Ryzen 7500F's memory controller can run 6000MT/s.

>>105750868
ditch the microsoft license, it can be had cheaper elsewhere (or free)
get a PCIe 5.0 NVMe
avoid the gigabyte rx 9070 xt. they have issues with the thermal gel leaking the sapphire pulse is only $10 more
try to spring for the taichi lite board. it's connectivity and power phases are way better. you should be able to afford it after ditching the microsoft license

>>105755124
It was the bundle from microcenter. Forget the models. ASUS mobo and Gskill ram I think.

I probably will swap the ram at some point. Its fine for right now. Just disappointed.

>>105755128
What's it like to be blind?

any US anons want 1 of these last 5 drives?
seems like quite the deal to me
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D362RMS5

>>105755224
Ah, I've seen them giving out mostly the crap ram kits that are bad at overclocking so it's probably that. Samsung ddr5 are typically 6000cl36 and becomes really unstable with voltage/temps at 6000mhz and is hell in general to tune while micron ram hates voltage and doesn't scale well.

>>105755110
120 with blur reduction should be close to that 240 is like twice that

>>105755090
entirely depends on the panel if it's shit or not

>>105755240
Pretty ok, honestly, besides not being able to drive.

>>105754943
Ordered the id cooling one. Thanks for the advice fren.

>>105755264
*catches on fire in your path*

>>105755449
are they that bad? I don't plan on using the included cooler. I'm using the way bigger one that comes with my board

>>105755472
If that Gen 5 NVMe drive is going to run near maximum speeds frequently, it needs the bundled active cooling.
If not, why are you buying a Gen 5 drive?

>>105755506
pretty sure the heatsink on my board is way better then that tiny little thing with a fan that looks like it came off a 3d printer

>>105754769
I assume you made a slight typo saying non-X3D twice, so I'm going to guess you meant that non-X3Ds don't outperform X3Ds due to slightly higher clocks. With regard to benchmarks, they do all show a 13 to 20ish percent increase in a 5800 versus 5700X3D in core performance (20% single and 13 multi) so while benchmarks aren't real life 20% is still significant

yeah im selling my rtx 5080 goodbye nvidia

>>105755559
did they make them wrong as a joke?

>>105755579
they seem to be quite literally datacenter cards.
they can pass 24/7 furmark stress test.
but cant complete a single competitive match.
not a hardware fault, driver fault.

Just checking in to say I bought a 4070S at a good price over a year ago and I'm happy with it. Did I win?

>>105752929
sleep mode has always, always been a buggy shitshow of a mode since day 1, i NEVER use it, and always turn it off, sometimes it comes back during an OS update though. Do not use it, it's been a failure since windows 7.

>>105755671
every year whatever card you currently have is playing all the games you want to play you're winning

>>105755559
>Not your screenshot
>Posting old screenshot
How do I know? You'd love to prove this is happening in the current driver & game version.
But you can't.
Pretending to own something you don't, that's what poor & NVIous people do.

>>105753520
>I wouldn't mind ultrawide monitors if game developers properly supported that resolution including better UI customization.
almost all modern games support it to some extent, pixel 2d games tend to be the worst offenders.
>>105753105
answering your question is on par with trying to explain colours to the blind. I adore my ultrawide and recommend it to anyone not already using a multi-monitor setup. Either go to a retail computer store and see if they have on working on display and try it, or talk to a friend who has one if you're too hesitant.

>>105755710
>support it to some extent
That's just not good enough for what you're paying, especially the UI issue.

>>105753350
at this point i only trust samsung for harddrive space, but corsair and WD blacks are reliable too. But make damn sure you're buying an ssd/m.2 with a dram cache, the ones without them are super unreliable.

>>105753558
no retard, i bought it at full retail because i planned on using it long-term. It wasn't a cheap purchase, but it sure was an ethical one compared to paypigging for njudea.

>>105753652
if you're still gaming at 1080poverty settings its absolutely a fantastic choice of cpu. Will handle whatever you throw at it.

>>105754317
just get a fractal meshify, or any of the competing brands who make similar designs to lian li. You are literally spoilt for choice when it comes to quality pc cases, its an incredibly competitive field, there is no reason to be loyal to just one manufacturer.

>>105748669 (OP)
so retarded question.but stay with me
want to upgrade my pc and got some parts for free already.
I got
mobo + AMD Ryzen 7 3700X + cooler and 2*8 gigs of ram
I currently run I7 6700 and 2*8 gigs of ram
so an upgrade in the end since cpu apparently is superior
but Im worried about cooling
the cooler that i have gotten is not going to fit. its 40mm taller and my case houses PSU in front of the CPU.

Can i just use the lower profile cooler i currently use if its fan diameter is about 15mm smaller.

I have no idea about airflow capabilities of neither ones and one in my current pc has no markings since i have a prebuilt.

Yes i could buy new parts but id like to stick to what i have since
>the part that is free is the part for me.

>>105755796
lets see some pics

>>105755128
yeah but that's retarded anon. 1080poverty is disgusting abuse for your eyes long-term, 1440p or higher is mandatory for quality viewing, even though you'll struggle with performance issues at times.

If you're that dead-set on high frame rates, upgrade the rest of your rig first. Or get a job delivering food or something.

>>105755472
>>105755539
Those Phison E26 drives need something like this to operate at full capacity all the time. If you want a PCIe5 drive that doesn't melt without heatpipes and active cooling, your options are
>SM2508
>E31T (DRAMless)
>E28 (upcoming)
>Presto (overpriced Samsung only)

>>105755777
>was an ethical one
There's nothing ethical about selling an A0 stepping (half-cooked) GPU to retards like you.
Why do you think AMD cancelled the Navi 41 & 42 higher tier GPUs?
Because their MCM Radeon GPU design isn't fully cooked.

>>105755556
5800x3d or 5700x3d?
yes I meant to say the non x3ds are not outperforming the x3ds
early ryzens also scale badly with mhz too

>was eyeing a ASUS RTX5060 TI 16GB
>thought they'd be in stock for a long time since lol RTX5060
>spend money on Anime figgies instead
>GPU sold out

>>105755864
>spend money on Anime figgies instead
a classic blunder

>>105755864
people collecting plastic are mentally ill

>>105755873
There are microplastics on your balls right NOW!

>>105755809
here is the stuff ive gotten from my cousin
as of now I have cannibalised the RAM and stuck that into my pc.
bit an issue to take a photo of my main PC guts since its running rn, has no window on the side and even then the cooler is just black one with no markings and its 80*80mm outside and roughly 75mm fan diameter.
the big cooler is about 105*05 with fan diameter being roughly 90mm
im not sure if my cousin chose the fan because it met the bare minimum or he just went for overkill.
as for fan specs he gave me no info either

>>105755931
ok, lets see the cooler you want to put on it

>>105755859
5700x3D versus 5800x/xt

>>105755938
those benchmarks are not gaming benchmarks though
for productivity apps yeah I guess

>>105755937
yeah so i had to reboot pc and took the chance to take the photo
did a blunder though
took the photo without checking it and put back the pc again so this is the best i got atm.

>>105755829
good to know. I think the stock block on my Taichi lite will do the job but these after market coolers aren't too expensive if it's thermally throttling constantly
realistically, given how fast it is, it'll only be under load for a few seconds when loading a game or during level change
>>105756026
it's fine, that's a stock Intel cooler and the other one is a stock AMD cooler
totally incompatible
if you really want to use the new stuff I'd suggest you just go without a side panel, atleast until you can either buy a new cooler or a new case.

9600x3d fucking WHEN?

6 core x3d is gonna show how much 8 core cpus are a meme

I think I'm finally ready to move from desktop to a medium range laptop and consolidate all my computing to that platform. I have been using Xubuntu for stability instead of Arch with a 6 year-old GPU at this point. I looked around for an AMD-only APU laptop, but most of them seem stupidly expensive for what's on offer. If I do some light gaming (7th gen and earlier games, e.g. pre-2014) and am trying to get into hobbyist-level Blender and Krita for painting, should I bite the bullet on the pricier AMD APU laptop or just go with whatever gaming laptop has a nice dGPU in it? Price difference for a custom AMD is looking like $1,200-1,300 USD vs $800 for a budget whatever with an Nvidia 4060

>>105756303
get a used business laptop. preferably a workstation laptop

>>105756320
I appreciate the suggestion!

>>105755539
> B650E "Lite"
They really milk the Taichi brand like fuck.

>>105756198
I want a 2x Zen5, 4xZen5c, 128MB V-cache, 40CU RDNA4, 24GB HBM3 chip with a quad channel DDR5 IMC. Rate it at 120W and sell PCs that are basically a heatsink with a raspberry pi strapped to it. Connectivity is easy, USB-C is commonplace now and Displayport and Ethernet are native protocols for USB4. 99.9% of people would have no need for anything more than that.

>>105750868
> for light 4k gaming.
280 AIO?
96GB for gaming?
6400CL32?
85 bucks on fans?
Win 11?

>>105751421
> I want quiet fans.
> buys a louder small AIO
> buys a louder hot GPU
How can you even live with this level of self-contradiction?

$900 for peak oled.
deal

>>105752195
that gpu isn't even 2 years old

>water cooling block will arrive at the end of august

AAAAAAAA

>>105753148
Nobody responded so I put them in myself and it's made no difference to my temps, thanks obama

why don't people just use the radiator off a motorcycle to cool their PC?

>>105756873
You would need a real compressor to move things through that. You might as well grab the starter motor and a can of gas while you are at it because you will need those.

>tfw still running vega 64 and a 5950x
IT'S BEEN 7 YEARS WHY IS NOTHING WORTH BUYING
>running a TN 1080p viewsonic 144hz panel and my ancient asus VH242H
>anything is still basically playable with minor tweaking

Time to just wait for one more refresh, right? I don't give a shit about RT or DLSS. Honestly I think I'm about done with modern PC gaming

>>105756969
get an IPS panel you neanderthal

>>105756969
Always keep waiting if you're content with your current system.
The parts just keep getting better (albeit for less value for money).

>>105756675
Some people may not like the ASUS/ROG brand, but they do make the best OLED monitors atm.
Dell Alienware is good too, but fewer options.

>>105756675
>27"
ack

>>105756974
No lmao. This old piece of shit actually has decent color accuracy and really good response times for muh FPS. I did some autismo blurbusters forums/Rtings research on panels back in 2018 and this was my best option. I'm saving for the next iteration of OLED or miniLEDs if that ever becomes a thing. As long as keep the exact viewing angle it's good enough for me.

>>105756981
Pretty much this, until I give a shit about HDR content I'm just sticking with this. I have an M4 Macbook pro and the screen is quite nice but I don't need that type of shit for games yet.

>>105757002
don't they just use LG panels? I haven't done a ton of research this year but last time I checked there wasn't any real difference between LG and ASUS outside of some minor strobing/latency tweaks.

>>105751927
>>105751932
The video card is too overpriced, but if you want a GeForce card with that level of performance & build quality, it is what it is.
9070 XT is fine for gaming.

Samsung SSDs are fine for Windows, bad for Linux (poor Linux drivers).

See if you can get the M27QA monitor, it's slightly better.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1848573-REG/gigabyte_m27q_advanced_sa_27_qhd_180hz_ss.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE0tQ6fYkOw

>>105756645
>> buys a louder small AIO
140mm fans vs 120, though
>> buys a louder hot GPU
Silent when I'm not gaming so not an issue

>>105757020
>don't they just use LG panels?
ASUS sources both Samsung (QD-OLED) and LG (WOLED) displays.
LG Display is supplying a custom glossy WOLED panel for two new ROG 32" 4K monitors.
https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-monitors/32-inch-glossy-woled-panels-debut-in-the-rog-strix-oled-xg32ucwmg-and-xg32ucwg-gaming-monitors/

>>105757078
>(poor Linux drivers).
>SSD

>>105757190
Samsung controllers hate Linux because it exposed the SSDs firmware bugs.

>Now arriving today 3 PM - 5 PM
Fucking amazon driver is literally raping my soul, I'm ready to consume my new graphics card.

How bad is playing games at 1080p on a 1440p monitor? I figure since I want to upgrade i may as well get the higher resolution monitor until im ready to upgrade my GPU

>>105757349
it's not even scaling so it'll look weird

>>105755705
you are probably correct, however that is by far, the worst bug i have ever seen a gpu driver do that isnt from a dying gpu, and im a lifelong AMD user.

The worst i ever used to get was instability and lag from youtube playing in the background while gaming, and games(UE4+5 almost exclusively) just crashing at random or full system crashes. Which isnt happening anymore outside of poorly coded and optimised UE games. And i've owned a Radeon VII (random crashes were a permanent feature of the card, but i dont mind in hindsight considering how good it was at mining crypto).

You can't really understate how bad this problem is, its not a handwave away/fanboy seethe scenario, this is a "reasons you may want to rethink buying X product".

>>105755723
>That's just not good enough for what you're paying
wrong, because entry-level ultrawides are barely more expensive than non-ultrawide equivalents. And almost all = 95%. The ONLY exceptions are again, pixel/sprite indie games. And almost every game has UI scaling. And UI scaling issues are more pronounced on 4k monitors by a mile, not 1440p ultrawides.

>>105757349
When you turn on DLSS quality at 1440p you're playing at less than 1080p

>>105755832
>Because their MCM Radeon GPU design isn't fully cooked.
you dont work for AMD and know jack shit about their motivations, stop putting words in their mouth. You're a retarded fanboy seething on 4chan at your betters, know your place, paypig.

There's 100% ethically wrong with criticising someone for purchasing an AMD gpu, who has no problems with it, and doesnt regret the purchase. There's plenty of things ethically wrong with buying Njudean gpus too, although there are plenty of practical reasons to do so. My 7900xtx is perfectly stable, moreso than your gpu, and i've encountered no issues outside of the usual driver teething ones. Your doomposting about a product you dont own is weird and creepy, are you the dlss schizo-pedo? You seem like him.

>>105756594
>85 bucks on fans?
i've never understood buying aftermarket fans for a new case, the performance improvements are below miniscule at best, its kind of ridiculous really. You can make an argument for modding a budget gpu shroud with noctua fans but that's it.

>>105755832
my 7900xtx can hit 3ghz. but theres no point, the memory is the bottleneck to the core. you need gddr7 like 5080.

>>105757430
Still no source of that image, pure coping.

>>105757485
>'I'm not a fanboy, paypig.'
Sharing the truth is not creepy.

>>105757514
>my 7900xtx can hit 3ghz. but theres no point
Yes there is, the final card didn't meet expected performance & efficiency targets because AMD was unable to resolve those hardware bugs.
Do you think AMD intended a fully-enabled Navi 32 to deliver sub-10% performance gain over the 6800XT?
Absolutely not, the chip design didn't deliver the expected performance, and AMD couldn't afford to make changes to it.

>>105757443
Stuck with fsr

>105757520
go away pedo-schizo. No more (you)s for a pedo spammer.

>>105757514
yeah, how many generations have AMD been stuck on DDR6 for now? 3? can't wait to see next gens performance for them, im hoping its big.

I have a problem I don't understand and need help, I'll try to keep it short:
old System: 9800x3d, B850 AsRock Steel legend wifi, Corsair CL28 2x16GB, RTX 4080, BeQuiet
Problem: inconsistent boot, literally. CPU and DRAM led light up for 5 secs and then turn off, all fans spin, GPU lights up but no post and black screen. Hold Power and try again and at some point it will randomly boot again.
Things I've already tried:
-Replace nearly the entire fucking system, new ram, new MB, new psu :
new system: same 9800x3d, MSI Tomahawk WiFi Max b850, Kingston fury cl30 2x16gb, nzxt c1200, same RTX 4080
-turn off memory context restore and power down enable in bios
-run ram in stock config and expo
-turn off PBO
-try with and without GPU
-just wait thinking its dram training but still nothing after 15 minutes
-update bios to newest version
-reinstall windows
-try 1 RAM stick with both kits
-unscrew CPU cooler a bit
-try DP and HDMI on monitor and TV respectively

Logic dictates that something is wrong with the CPU but since it still boots sometimes and runs rock solid if it does I'm just confused

>>105750909
kek you sound like a nagging woman

>>105757560
>t. Radeon-paypig willing to slop up unfinished, A0 stepping GPU.

>>105757349
at that point you might aswell go 4k

>>105756675
peak oled is unironically a S95F 55-77" right now
I'm still wondering if I can pull off a 55" on a 80cm desk, went to the store and it's not even large, but I was also standing at a distance, the closer you get the more fucky things become
worst case scenario you buy a rollable stand and put it behind your desk I guess
all depends on distance after all
but yeah it's not insane
the thing with the qdoled monitors is that hdr is literally meh, everything else sure fine, 27 is small, 32 is not that large either
a c4 42" on sale is the same price as the cheapest 32" qdoled right now again and it's been even cheaper
for a better model 32" qdoled it's cheaper by alot
the tv pill is drawing ever closer
if you play fps or competitive games I guess monitors make sense, if you are a contentmaxxer or singleplayer I feel you kinda hard locked into getting a tv
might be wrong, idk. I have fomo every day

>>105756198
stupid gimped chip since there is no downside to a full 8 core, you are only getting a gimped cpu with zero benefits
poorfag bait in all honesty

>>105757571
Not in my range sorry

>>105757565
maybe there's something in the CPU socket
or maybe something else entirely
boot it with minimum everything
MOBO, CPU + 1 stick of RAM. no drives, no fans, no nothing

>>105757548
I didn't read your schizo ramble that's not tuned to today's reality.

>>105757560
They increase the speed of GDDR6 with each gen but it's still GDDR6. You can't oc them much anymore besides 100mhz but that's nothing. With 5080 they have faster GDDR7 and additional cache.

>>105748669 (OP)
Have I broken out of the consooomer pill?
Going to be mostly out of debt in 5-6 weeks at this rate, and debt free in around 8-10. Seemingly for as much as I want to upgrade my PC or my monitor, I just look at the prices and I think to myself, do I even need it anymore? Do I really want to spend £400-1000 (CPU/Mobo/Ram and/or GPU) when I only play Vidya for 1 day a week?

Like I keep seeing a 7700 on Ali for £130 which is tempting, but from a Ryzen 3700x is it even that worth it besides the faster ram and AM5?

>>105757675
>today's reality.
Today's reality is the same, you have a A0 stepping GPU with 15~20% missing performance that AMD wasn't willing to fix.

>dlss schizo spamming and whining about tech terms he doesnt even understand
>stop liking what i don't like!
kys pedo.

>>105757675
>With 5080 they have faster GDDR7 and additional cache.
Thats a little unfair considering that the 5080 is a generation ahead of the 7000 series. I'm pretty sure the 4000 series had GDDR7 aswell. I know they OC ddr6 ram each gen but yeah its not the same increase in performance.

>>105757743
>tech terms he doesnt even understand
Says the "Njudea" spammer, bitching about products he doesn't own either.
Imagine paying the full retail price for an unfinished GPU, buying products he doesn't understand.

>>105757692
its a noticeable performance increase for sure. Especially if you're gonna do the 'upgrade' to winblows 11. The motherboard, psu, cpu cooler and ram costs are much more than the cpu itself.

>the pedo schizo is STILL astroturfing the thread. He still thinks he isn't a cancerous blight on this board.
kys furry pedo. Whens your court case? pic rel, you know Njudea will never pay you or acknowledge you for your shameless shilling, right? kys.

>>105757824
Except I haven't shilled a single GeForce card, you've got Njudea rent-free™ in your head.
Just because you settled with an unfinished Radeon card, doesn't change the reality that your chip is missing 15~20% of AMD's advertised performance.

>>105757824
qrd?

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>>105758042
>>105758042
>>105758042

My new power supply just showed up and something was rattling inside of it, took it apart and it was a little ball of solder, here's hoping that wasn't important. I don't feel like doing an Amazon replacement right now.

>>105758074
I wouldn't risk it with a PSU even if the returns are annoying. GL.

>>105758074
>>105758087
Don't worry all of my bad Amazon luck got used up when I bought a cheap radiator and it let coolant flood the transmission

>>105758479
Forgot image

>>105758087
We are good

>>105757565
Your Steel Legend board may have degraded the CPU.
Start an RMA thru AMD. Gl