i like xfce

>>105751898 (OP)
I do too, just wish it had fractional scaling as my eyesight is shit.

>>105751898 (OP)
>It is not clear yet which Xfce release will target a complete Xfce Wayland transition (or if such a transition will happen at all)

I do too

>>105751907
Good. I look forward to using Xfce on Xorg for at least another 40 years.

rat feces

>>105751898 (OP)
If xfce didn't exist I would be using windows.

xfce is the best
>>105751907
good. I look forward to using xfce on xlibre for at least another 40 years

>>105751907
>Yes, we calmly introduce functionalities so they don't break your experience
>also we kept your workflow consistently the same since the project inception

>>105752010
>also, stop donating, we don't know what to do with money

Will Xfwm4 get Wayland? I refuse to cave in to an inferior alternative like Labwc.

This shit sucks
I have to install everything manually on arch xfce
It also looks visually trash
Kde is better in every way

*wins the race in you're path*

>>105752047
You are a negroid halfwit. KDE is pure, unadulterated, anal leakage.

>>105752047
>This shit sucks
it's ok depending on your use case. great for a potato

>I have to install everything manually on arch xfce
imagine installing something manually on Arch? Maybe Ubuntu is more your speed

>It also looks visually trash
i agree

>Kde is better in every way
not really

>>105752047
*krashes*

best thread on /g/ right now

>>105752070
She is my fav in this game. Literally best girl.

>>105752047
>It also looks visually trash
nigga doesn't know how to install a theme kek

>>105751898 (OP)
I dont use linux anymore, but it was the best DE by far. Every other DE has massive screen tearing on Nvidia.

>>105752047
You're inviting trouble if you're NOT installing everything manually on Arch, regardless of the DE used.

>>105752046
>Will Xfwm4 get Wayland? I refuse to cave in to an inferior alternative like Labwc.
Can you elaborate on these two window managers in terms of their design philosophy, features, performance, and user experience using at least 200 words?

>>105752161
Why can't the session button have the same padding and font size as the clock out of the box? Why is it the user's burden to edit some text file to fix their broken shit?

>>105752518
https://docs.xfce.org/contribute/dev/start

>>105752070
too good for wheels

>>105752518
>>105752534

>>105752534
>closed wontfix
Based or cringe?

>>105752763
skill issue

The shill fears the rat

>>105752046
xfwm4 isn't very good. I measured a 2 fps advantage with openbox. type openbox --replace to use it.

>>105751898 (OP)
reject

>>105752952
fuck off gnomie

>>105752952
I like ratpoison on paper but i never tried it.

>>105752952
The rat lives, ratpoison is dead.

>>105751898 (OP)
I like it, but it's only my fallback DE these days
Scrolling WMs are a game changer so I'm sticking to niri currently, still using thunar and mousepad tho
If I were to shill Linux to a beginner I'd tell them to use XFCE

>>105751898 (OP)
Same, but I'm still using Windows.

>>105752518
just do like I did and remove the session button

>>105751898 (OP)
Audio sounded like complete dogshit on XFCE when I tried it on Debian. I switched to gnome.

>>105754539
The DE you choose has nothing to do with audio quality.

>>105752518
This has nothing to do with Xfce and everything to do with the theme you are using. If you want non-wonky themes, try any of the Mint themes, Greybird, or Manjaro's fork of Greybird. There are other high quality themes of course, but these will give you a lot to choose from that are consistent.

>>105754815
he is gnome fag, he needs to justify his own suffering. Just let him be.

>>105754846
Exterminate all GNOMEgroids.

>>105754815
unless you're on COSMIC, then it just randomly breaks lmao

>>105754815
I really don't know what to tell you. It sounded like shit on XFCE. I downloaded gnome, logged in again, and the audio sounded fine.

>>105754955
i believe that you had this experiance.
on a side note: is there a formal name for the following series of events?
>have problem
>do thing tangentially related (or not, it just happened to be close chronologically)
>problem fixed
>conclude tangentially related thing fixed problem

>>105754955
GNOME is a very opinionated DE, it must've forced its own sound system (probably the newer one Pipewire) that's different from what you had when you were using XFCE

>>105755010
>is there a formal name for the following series of events?
confirmation bias

>>105751898 (OP)
DE
PRE
CATED

>>105754815
I guess gnome pulled pipewire and xfce only pulled pulseaudio

>>105755100
this takes an assumption that the person wanted [tangentially related thing] to be the fix tho. im not willing to make that assumption.

>>105755133
>pipewire
is it finally ready or is it still pulseaudio quality from the times when pulse was new?

>>105755144
No, he believed that xfce is what causes his audio to be shit (he had some idea of xfce being rat feces) so he tried switching to gnome, found that it fixed the problem -> illusory correlation -> confirmation bias

>>105751901
I would welcome this too. I used to have 20/20 vision, but now I need glasses for reading and I already have them on 8h a day for work so my head hurts if I use them too much.

So now I read websites on my TV. Fonts in xfce are set to 14, and I browse /b/ at 200 zoom level.

>>105755152
It works I guess

>>105755156
i understood what you said and i reject it on the premise that i cannot know his motives. there is a name btw i was being rhetorical.

>>105755192
it is completely fine to me if you reject absolutely everything i say. i am not trying to convince you of anything

>>105755112
this but unironically

>>105755215
you must be a different anon then. my apologies.

Why is it that of all software projects only the ones with cute animal logos are worth a damn?
It can't be a coincidence.

>>105755296
different from who? i have responded to you a couple times

not that it matters, since everyone is anonymous and only the context of the conversation should ever be relevant

>>105755316
>>105755215 cannot be >>105755156 and be being truthful at the same time. i must have been mistaken in assuming them to be the same anon.

>>105751907
Install labwc and you can have Xfce on Wayland tonight, though personally I don’t really care enough to care until they ship a Wayland compositor by default.

>>105755353
i am both those anons. are you trying to gaslight me right now? or maybe you misunderstood what i said. Let me clarify.

In the post >>105755156, I replied to your post (>>105755144) because you were saying that he wanted something (eg, GNOME) to be the fix. So, I replied that it is in fact his false belief in what XFCE is or isn't supposed to be that caused this sequence of events.
I now realize that these two narratives are in fact equivalent. So, when you replied to me in this post: >>105755192 I assumed you were rejecting only the later narrative, and not both of them. My humblest apologies for the confusion! (Unless you still think I'm not being "truthful")

>>105755558
>you were saying that he wanted something
this is the original misunderstanding then. i did not make this claim or assume this to be the case. my claim was that by proximity in time *alone* he made the assumption that gnome fixed the problem. not that he wanted gnome to fix the problem. (i dont use llms to make a joke about about how polite they are at correcting themselves but iv heard about so lol)

>>105752010
>>105752031
Based beyond belief

Put Xue in the sticky already

>>105756723
I chose Xfce in 2009
I have used other DEs but none of them is quite as good as the mouse

>>105751898 (OP)
this REEKS of fascism

>>105756754
I personally also like KDE, and unironically the Windows Desktop.
I recommend KDE to my less linux inclined friends that want a featured desktop that looks good by default.

But Rat is best. And I like xfwm4, I don't understand the hate it gets. I can configure it with xfconf-query scripts bound to shortcuts to toggle useful settings like focus on hover in workflows that benefit from it. Peak comfy.

>>105756829
They forget to disable the compositor on xfwm4.

>>105756850
What does that do?

>>105756864
Makes your computer slow.

>>105756829
nah, all normies I know on whose PCs I installed Linux prefer xfce or LXDE. They just feel simple enough and I know that xfce wont krash on them.
Zoomers are the worst, they like gnome because it reminds them of phones.
They all like KDE's looks tho.

>>105751907
>>105752046
Who the fuck cares about wayland lmao

>>105752904
Xfwm4 + xpresent is faster than Openbox + picom.

>>105757734
I put linux on my gf's obsolete laptop and she enjoyed xfce. Once I got her a better one she insisted on linux, but kept KDE for something more modern feeling.
I'm more of an xfce guy, but I kinda want wayland. I hope there's a wayland version of xfce in a few more years. It works better with newer hardware

>>105752158
based and redpilled

>>105751898 (OP)
>nooo you're supposed to like what I like!! let me tell you why your opinion is wrong

>>105751898 (OP)
It kept crashing amd freezing so i switched to gnome

>>105752046
To me Xfce is a gatekeeper. As long as it dies not support wayland, I'm not running it..