Thread 105752840

quietly provides a functional OS in your path

>>105752840 (OP)
Redpill me on SUSE. Why would I use it over Fedora, Arch, Silverblue or NixOS?

>>105752855
Every time I try it it feels like the most bloated garbage that barely holds together. IDK how they achieve this.
There is no reason to use this trash.

>>105752855
There's no redpill. You wouldn't normally choose it. But sometimes Fedora/Silverblue is too incompatible, and Arch is too simple. And honestly, who can be bothered with NixOS.

>>105752861
I know what you mean. It's a combination of slow/clunky package manager/mirrors and YaST feeling like a relic of the past given advances in KDE/GNOME control panels. It also has quite a bit of lockdown given its SLE roots.

>>105752957
IDK why people will use this, if I want user friendly distro it will be either Mint or non GNOME Ubuntu variant.
If I want distro convenient for people who know what they want, it will be Arch for binary and Gentoo for autism.
If I want stable distro it will be Ubuntu LTS, Debian or Alma.
Why would anyone use SUSE (other reason than wanting to pay Germans for support and not US company)?

>>105753031
>Mint
Tried it. No GNOME/KDE.
>Ubuntu
Tried it. Didn't like how it irreversibly modified GNOME. And didn't want to sign in for security updates (vanilla GNOME shell is in Universe).
>Arch
Tried it. Package management system is missing features like supporting partial upgrades and handling file type changes (e.g. regular file to symlink) on upgrade.
>Gentoo
Tried it. Can't be bothered with the hassle of building from source.
>Alma
Tried something very similar (CentOS before Stream). Too old.
>SUSE
I'm using Tumbleweed, not SUSE proper.

>>105752855
Sane defaults like automatically making fall back images every time you update. Stays relatively bleeding edge, but they actually fucking test shit before they release it.

Nixos is cool until you run out of what already exists and have to fix shit yourself.

>>105753078
>No GNOME
This is a feature.

>irreversibly modified GNOME
This is a feature.

>Too old
This is a feature.

>>105752855
>Redpill me on SUSE

>>105754926
Deragotary dehumanizing of people who think different than you in politics or what is good for people is kinda crazy, especially coming from a board member. And to think that this way of thinking seems to be prioritized over them even existing as a company, wild.

>>105756275
>Deragotary dehumanizing of people who think different than you in politics
is the only way to win, as it has been shown many times. They demand everyone to tolerate them while they have zero tolerance policy, that's their strength.

>>105752840 (OP)
Wrong image.

>>105752840 (OP)
The same thing can be said about any non boutique distro

>>105752855
it's the woke version of fedora, but even worse.

>>105752840 (OP)
ok so you was able to uninstall the lizard computa and ask the teacha for a debian ISO quietly?

What does it matter
Every OS that can't run Microsoft Office is as good as useless
Thank you and goodnight

>>105761725
As long as it keeps your ilk out it's very useful.

>>105752840 (OP)
It was shit. Two weeks ago I installed Tumbleweed on my 2015 laptop. First, the wifi was not working because of KDE wallet (when it worked fine on kubuntu before). Whatever, I fixed it.
But then, USB tethering was not working.
And then, installing the nvidia driver was a fucking nightmare.
And then, more shit happened that made me just give up and reinstall Kubuntu (I walso tried fedora, but that one was even more dogshit).

This or Fedora?

>>105754926
You just made me like SUSE more.

>>105756275
Hating haters is healthy. And SUSE is doing fine as a company.

>>105756321
Not tolerating intolerance is healthy.

>>105752855
tumbleweed was my 2nd longest used distro
1. patterns - i was quite sure i disabled some of them, then suddenly they got enabled for whatever reason it added apps that i dont even want
2. uninstalled firefox, installed flatpak firefox. months down the line. i suddenly realized that i have 2 firefox! it installed itself
2. gnome - it had an app called "brasero" its for dvd/cd or whatever. uninstalled it then i cant mount my drives anymore
3. sometimes, shutting down tales a LOOOONG time

i can tolerate tumbleweed's many shortcomings. but after the "rotten flesh" crap, i started looking for reasons to switch

>>105752855
It's just Fedora but European and less polished

>>105761907
Hmm fair enough. For what it's worth, I'm using the GNOME variant of Tumbleweed on Intel graphics. I had an NVIDIA laptop many years ago and it was a nightmare for Linux, so I vowed never again. Haven't tried USB tethering. Hopefully I can last on Tumbleweed because I'm running out of distros lol.

>>105763068
Fedora is generally my first choice but it's not an option for me on this hardware.

>>105763586
>patterns/firefox
Apparently things get pulled in again because they are recommended packages of packages that you actually want. You can disable this behavior.
>no drive mounting
Never had this problem.
>slow shutdown
systemd has a long shutdown timeout by default. You can change this in system.conf.

>>105763592
It's actually "just Slackware" but with RPM.

>>105763686
It's nothing like Slackware though

>>105763696
True, but that is SUSE's origin story. It started as Slackware and evolved from there.

>>105763617
Yeah I was being harsh, I am sure Tumbleweed is a good distro, especially since it's a rolling release. It would have been easier for me it it was on my main machine, but the problem was that the GPU was very old, so installing the drivers was harder.
At the same time I want the more advanced distros, I just hate how they make you jump through hoops.

>>105763555
You can say that about anything, users not wanting politically aligned flags on your software is normal. Calling people intolerant is just a political tool you use to try and shut people up, but it doesn't work outside of your bubble now does it? You little fascist.

>>105764243
Your ideology is bullshit.

>>105764464
The ideology of not wanting political propaganda shoved into your face?

>>105764502
Equal rights is not propaganda, my dude. Try to see things from the perspective of the historically oppressed. Consider things with regard to a broader view of history. The only thing you are being prevented from doing is oppressing others.

>>105754926
>Let's filter homophobic chuds
>Successfully filters homophobic chuds
Damn that little lizard got hands

>>105764464
>>105764547
Consider for a lifetime that you will never be a woman

>>105764580
Good advice. Thanks anon. But your ideology is still retarded.

>>105764669
The ideology of not wanting political bullshit shoved into your face?

>>105764975
The premise of your question is faulty.

>>105752840 (OP)
It ducked me up good the last time I've tried it (during their mirrors/server migration) and I'm reluctant to waste anymore of my time on it. It uses be excellent before the Linux community became split and full of troons.

>>105765252
how so?
You want to shove political bullshit into everyones face...
>my ideology is the ONE TRUE ONE that is MORELLY JUSTIFIED
doesn't really make that any different now, does it?