>>105752966 (OP)
>You're fired for that thing I did
Seems fair. No reason that the owner of the company pissing off half of the world six months ago and then the other half six weeks ago would have anything to do with sales. Must be this other dudes fault.

>>105752966 (OP)
>you're fired as Tesla sales drop 30-50% in Europe while Chinese EVs rise 200%

Ehh... I think it has to do with him calling Europeans sissies and doing his hand thing.

Mercedes AMG ditching i4 engines for i6 and v8s

>>105752981
>the CEOs should fire themselves because they hurt leftard feelings
The smartest troon

Brutal.

>>105753323
That's not what he said.

>>105753323
You're mentally ill.

>>105753323
How do companies work?

>>105752981
what "thing" did he do?

>>105753686
Hitched his wagon to Donald Trump and then had a fiery blow up with Donald Trump. Congratulations on your first day out of the cave you've been living in.

>>105752981
>owner
He's the CEO. He isn't even a founding member.

The shareholders want him out.

>>105753686
He made leftards mad, then he made MAGAtards mad. Like, it was dumb to alienate a good chunk of your target public, but it was even dumber to then make enemies with most of the other half.
Now he only has die-hard techbros to fish sales based on his and Tesla's brand.

>>105753733
>He isn't even a founding member.
Don't tell him that.

>>105753729
I mean regarding Tesla

>>105752966 (OP)
Just close the plant in Germany and make 50.000 Germans unemployed.
The amount of money this safes is vastely higher than whatever lost sales cost you.

Why does this retard still think that fucking Germany would be a good place for a plant?

>>105753771
Long records of broken promises and aging product line

>>105752966 (OP)
>be EU
>be on a recession for 3 years now
>car marked crashes, no matter the brand
>even VW isn't profitable anymore in that marked
so... just leave the market.
You can comback whenever they managed to fix their economy again and can afford to buy cars.
And if that never happenes, you cut out a tumor that is only costing you money.

BYD took over Europe because woke Europeans did not want to give money to someone edgy.
Now they only gave money to the CCP, who never does anything edgy...


Jokes apart, I fully support how the CCP deals with Islamic extremism.

>>105753823
It's totally not because Europeans are fucking poor and their economy is in decline for multiple years now.

>>105753818
>car marked crashes, no matter the brand
JUST <clapping hands emoji> MAKE <clapping hands emoji> BETTER <clapping hands emoji> CARS

>>105753836
>>105753837
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>>105753837
Your screenshot doesn't contradict what i said, anon.
>in a declining market, the cheap option is doing better
what a surprise

>>105753837
In 2019, Germans bought 3,607,258 cars.
In 2023, Germans bought 2,844,609 cars.

Endorse Donald Trump, go broke.

>>105753852
BYD is not cheaper than European brands because they put a 100% tax on it.
Fun fact. It was France who put the 100% tax over ALL ELETRIC CARS made in China because VW, in a last attempt to get into the electric market, built a state-of-the-art car factory in China to be able to compete, and Macron said, No. People will drive shitty Peugeots and terrible Renaults.
Turns out people prefer to pay more for a Chinese car (which may or may not contain a shitload of spyware) because French cars are so fucking bad that riding a bicycle is seen as an upgrade.

>>105753823
I'll side with the CCP over satanic judeomutts every time

>>105753887
Based.
**Your heated seat feature has been reenabled on your BYD.**

>>105753795
They only opened that plant as a prestige project, to show the German brands:
>we are the top dog now
Now the German brands are so irrelevant that nobody considers them a competition for anything. We talk about BYD, not about VW, Mercedes or BMW.

Tesla is now connected to that horrid market. It is like a tumor to them. Paying high wages for lesser quality work and the highest energy prices on the world.
It's like opening a steel factory in the Rust belt and saying:
>haha, we are the best
while all around you are are rusted abandoned factories

>>105753887
same

... i mean, if i could afford a car in this EU shithole in the first place.

>>105753907
The issue is that German brands have been tainted because of their niche drivers.
Like, if you are in the US and you see a BMW, you assume it's a horrible driver who doesn't know how to drive.
And in Europe, BMWs are known as Turk mobile.
Mercedes in America are for Karens and anxious trophy wives, and in Europe, Mercedes are driven by Albanian criminals.

VW filled their cars with so much crap that the cheapest Golf is not cheap at all. And worst is that they are copying the French in their search for fully disposable cars. Every new VW car has an expiration date because their blin-blin garbage will be too expensive to fix in just 5 years when it will catastrophically fail.

>>105753323
Kys cult fag

>>105752966 (OP)
Well why would you HIRE a man named Amid Plunging, damn middle Easterner.

>>105753750
>techbros
is that a euphemism for jeets?
speaking of jeets.
>>105753823
>>105753887
>Jokes apart, I fully support how the CCP deals with Islamic extremism.
yes. by driving them westward, where hundreds if not thousands of families are congregating in a new permanent home west of Aleppo, on the EXACT SAME LAND the founders of the Ottoman empire found a new home, before expanding and fucking with the entirety of the "white world", which you two are pretending to be members of.
isn't it funny how easily pretend-white jeets out themselves?! lmao.

>>105753750
What's his brand anymore? It used to be:
>real life Iron Man so quirky chungus XD we r going 2 mars!!
Then it became:
>based and redpilled fighting against evil globohomo >:( internet is serious business also crypto
Now what is it? It's not just that both sides hate him, his brand of humor and memes are stale, Tesla cars are overpriced and don't look futuristic anymore, Hyperloop was a scam and everyone knows it, the X rebrand was a failure and everyone hates it, it lives through inertia...

I guess there's still SpaceX.

>>105753823
>woke Europeans
Nigger Tesla cars are overpriced and they have a lot of competition. For the same price of a Tesla you can buy a different brand.

Tesla cannot compete in features or price. If you want to blame someone blame American companies for wasting money buying their own stocks to inflate the price instead of investing in R&D. It's the Toyota situation all over again.

>>105754519
>yes.
stopped reading there

>>105752981
What did Elon even do that upset libtards? Do they even know? I know the TV said he was Hitler and that jew Soros sent morons to vandalize Teslas while he shorted the stock.

>>105754630
he sided hard with Trump and then gave that "Roman salute" on inauguration day
choosing not to buy his crap is ok but going out of your way to burn teslas and tesla charging stations is nigger behavior, I guess you can't expect more from a generation raised to applaud niggers and act like them

>>105752966 (OP)
>be Musk
>insult leftists and liberals
>insult Europeans
>insult Ukrainians
>call Trump a pedophile
>"How come my cars aren't selling anymore?"

>>105753795
Ah yes all 500 trillion German workers at a single rural Tesla plant.

>>105753271
>noooo i need moooore displacement!!!!
Delusional

>>105753907
German car brands are still highly in demand in the middle-upper class and upper class. It's Tesla which can no longer compete anywhere.

>>105754691
>Roman salute" on inauguration day
I saw him wave his arm like a tard and the TV grabbed a still of his arm in the position of a nazi salute and then fed that to libtards/women as Elon is le heckin hitler. No way anyone actually fell for that?

>>105754630
Helped Trump get elected, fired public sector workers, and cut aid funding.
>B... but those are based things
Not to liberals obviously

>>105754785
yeah this is all just some libtard lies!!1
Musk is saving da white race and everyone who says otherwise must work for ShareBlue!1

>random car marketing employee is fired
>makes a world headline
trannies are easy

>alienate customer base
>they stop buying your shit
wow so crazy

>>105754890
exactly on the miga trannies hate based Musk because he called out (((Trump))) for being a pedo

>>105754785
it was pretty retarded on his part, pretty much everything musk does is retarded, I never understood why redditors loved to defend this guy so much back in the day

>>105754933
That's what the Romans did back in the days, has nothing to do with nazis or Hitler.

he should fire himself; we will never forget his nazi salute. this is europe, not usa, we hate nazis.

>>105754968
What if you uncastrate yourself?

>>105754994
White Americans birth rates are no different from European ones.

>>105754994
my ancestors fought the nazis, a few of them died on the battlefield. the other day, a tourist came with a tesla to stay in my village, he didn't left with it.

>>105753067
tesla is down ini china too. chinese buy chinese ev. every chinaman who will buy a tesla has bought one. they are a lame brand in the china hivemind.

>>105754964
maybe he should've considered his position better, he made a retarded salute that can easily be misinterpreted while people were already jumping on him because he was supporting the leader everyone tells them is a fascist and american hitler, what did he expect?

>>105754964
>That's what the Romans did back in the days
this is false, they never did that. it's an invention from the 1800's

>>105755019
>IF YOU DONT WAVE LIKE I WANT IM GOING TO KILL YOU

totally normal human behavior. and catering to every single thing they say is totally good for society and is not imploding it completely at all

>>105753771
Self-crashing cars and stock manipulation.

>>105754548
>I guess there's still SpaceX.
Anon... I...

>>105755049
SpaceX still lifts like 95%+ of shit to orbit.

>>105755028
I was being sarcastic.

>>105754739
is this code for "i've never been on the autobahn doing 170+mph"?

>>105753836
Then stay away from us, amerimutts. China will save us while your banks fall :)

>>105755079
The French were the ones in that position before SpaceX, and they're between rockets right now. Ariane 6 begins launching commercial payloads later this year I believe, plus SpaceX has a bunch of American competitors just beginning to come online, and Starship *still* doesn't work. Crew Dragon doesn't have a reasonable alternative (Soyuz lmao) and won't for the foreseeable future, but SpaceX is going to lose >50% of their business over the next 5-10 years.

>>105753907
VW has overtaken Tesla in Europe.
And BMW dominates the luxury EV market.

>>105753852
it's not a declining market though, EV sales are up in Europe. Tesla are seeing declining sales in a booming market.

Tesla was only doing well because it was the only option with decent range, now that there's competition they're fucked.

>>105755019
How does the media have such a grip on normgroids in current year? You think after covid and foyd hoax they would have learned.

>>105754964
>That's what the Romans did back in the days
It probably isn't.

>>105755202
Not a single company literally has the will to increase cadence, which is required if you want to be competitive, especially when no one has actually reflown an orbital rocket.

Also you tards have been making the same posts for years about how spacex will be dethroned any day now. You laughed at the idea of landing a booster.

What's changed now? Did the ESA magically find a way to reduce costs on expendable rockets? Was the ULA cope about muh prestige missions (which are dead btw) just a feint?

>>105753686
went into politics. that's a big nono in the system, unless you are a 'career politician'. So the propaganda machine started labeling him 'bad', and look how the left ate it up. funny/sad how they can't seem to connect the dots.

>>105755015
Did your ancestors castrate you?

>>105755515
The nazis would have castrated you, subhuman.

Where's the model 2? Yeah, i thought so. Chinkshit it will be.
>>105753823
>woke
Has nothing to do with it, and you're fucking retarded.

>>105754580
No, you don't understand. We have to throw our money at the american brands, because otherwise we're just woke libtards.

>>105755453
going into politics wasn't a problem he just went for the opposite side of the people who actually buy his shit

>>105755538
Why do you support the cult of castration?

>>105755662
Transgenderism is a net positive for society, as is abortion.

>>105755587
Why do the other side of the politics went hard on the cult of castration?

>>105755679
MAGA hates Elon now if you mean that. Musk called Trump a pedo after all.

The great divide in politics is whether someone supports castration or not. If you support castration of children, you're a good guy since you're saving children's lives by castrating them. If you dont supporting castration of children, then you're a nazi

>>105755694
Are MAGAtards actually in denial about that?

>>105755677
This. People are completely aghast when I say this.
But keep in mind the demographics that troon out and abort their kids.

>>105755694
You realize everyone already knows Trump is a sexual predator right? So is Clinton and the Democratic party. Both parties are full of pedophiles in the party leadership. Thats why Epstein files are protected. Thats why they push the castration cult ideology, particularly they want the eunuch cult ideology for the children

Why does Tesla stock never ACTUALLY drop though like why does it always recover after totally damning reports and totally damning musk shit? This company seems like it should have gone defunct already.

>>105755713
Reality and fantasy doesnt match. Update your fantasy model to match reality.

>>105755712
Imo Trump is an old perv but not a pedo. Clinton was a cheater but I doubt he diddled kids either.
Also, if boys want to be girls why do you even care about stopping them? God knows they will only ever suck dick regardless.

>>105755713
>>105755730
TESLA batg holders have very deep pockets and an absolute religious-like trust in Musk. Nothing short of bankrupcy could change their minds.

>>105755730
The reality is that Tesla sales have fallen considerably and Elon Musk has said a bunch of retard shit that would have put most companies out of business. This company is being artificially propped up by the government.

>>105755773
I just hope there won't be bailouts. The seething would be glorious.

>>105755812
What do you think Trump wants to cut medicare for? The USA is already funneling money into Tesla, pure corruption, think about how bad it would be for the Trump administration if Tesla failed.

>>105755713
>>105755785
The reality is Tesla is more than just cars now.
They are doing grid scale battery storage
They are getting into robotics and the service economy with taxis.

Im sure youll mock the shit but it keeps investors going in.

>>105755713
Tesla has been a meme stock for a very long time now.
The old excuse is that it's a tech company, but even in tech we don't see the absurb PE values of tesla. It should be valued at around $40 for a tech company or below $10 for car company.

Keep in mind they still make no money without all the EV incentives. That's why he's sperging out on Trump's big bad bill

>>105755866
Drain the swamp, huh.

>>105755906
It's all propped up by the government. I also really worry about the economic implications of automated taxis, they'll make travel unaffordable even just to the next city over.

>>105755943
The hell you talking about?
The government otherwise hated Tesla.
It's why they otherwise got no mention from the US EV summit despite clearly being the EV leader in the US

>>105755906
non of that shit is profitable, everyone is into robotics and waymo have been doing robotaxis for years now.

They only make money from cars and EV incentives/green credits.

>>105755981
Waymo and other companies don't scale out. It's why nobody is interested when for years they stayed in the same geofenced cities and the cars end up costing $100k+ after the retrofitting is done

Why are Americans so mentally ill

>>105754630
He tried meddling in euro politics so euros stopped buying his cars in response.

>>105756008
This is the kind of braindead take you get from tsla bagholders, it's like a cult.

They're scaling out a lot faster than tesla. And 100k is cheap for a robotaxi, if you could sell a robotaxi for 100k you would sell every car you can make. I suppose you believed Elon when he promised 30k robotaxis coming out in june, just 2 more weeks bro.

>>105756328
>They're scaling out a lot faster than tesla
They had an 8 fucking year head start and are still geofenced to certain cities, its why no one takes them seriously.
Also 100k was being generous, the jags they use are 70k by themselves, other estimates have them at 200k

>>105753823
arent those muslims?
brb buying a BYD now

>>105753323
lol you are a clown if you can't see how Elon's decisions were the cause of shareholder loss of trust.

>>105756556
Elon cultists are the "more MAGA than MAGA" type of retards who will call anyone "tranny" who dares to criticize their daddy Musk. Most of the time it's Indians.

>>105753750
>Magapedes making up half of the target consumers
Nah man.

>>105753943
that's a dude isn't it

>>105756764
Yeah Elon's son

>>105756764
Nearly 6 seconds in you can see the penis outline

i remember how he tried to push the AfD party to power by using non democratic means and how he responded favorably to a tweet from an afp member saying that hitler was not that bad and was a socialist.

>>105756814
what non-democratic means are you talking about?

>>105754756
dont lie

VW is completely fucked

>>105756585
Musk fans appear to be reduced now to just Indians and the rocket obsessed. The spaceflight thread on /sci/ is full of the latter.

>>105755270
VW was never behind Tesla and the BMW i3 i4 i5 was relevant 10 years ago and is forgotten now

so now that german cars are forgotten what brands do shitskins buy to flex on other shitskins?

>>105756877
Tesla has been around a lot longer then 10 years tho and the Model S was a better car unless you wanted a city car.

>>105752966 (OP)
>yes, our car industry is dead
>yes, nobody buys German brands anymore and nobody even talks about them anymore
>BUT i bet WE GERMANS buy more Chinese cars instead of Teslas,TESLA BTFO, FUCK YOU ARMERICANS, but please occupy us harder and we apologize for you having to blow up our pipelines

>>105756863
Apparently they are selling pretty well in Europe now in the mid-priced segment since even BYD is much more expensive in Europe.

>>105757143
German car brands are unironically recovering a bit rn while Tesla continues its freefall.

>>105754630
lol

>>105756936
Yes, and i see more Teslas than BMW i3, i4, i5.
In fact, i saw many of them over a decade ago, when they first released. I remember that there was a massive hype for them.
And the i3 was supposed to become a mass produced middle class car. It was BMWs huge entry into the EV market.

You know how many of those i see nowadays on the street? Zero.
You can drive for 5 hours and you will not see a single BMW EV.
They all vanished. In fact, i wonder what happened with the ones from 10 years ago. Did they all break down and got scraped? Usually you would expect them to be now on their second of third owner. But they simply don't exist anymore.

Tesla is older than 10 years and is still relevant, you see them around.
The BMW EVs are younger than Tesla and vanished from the face of the earth. If you wouldn't have brought them up, i wouldn't have remembered them.

>>105753823
The bigger issue is the quality of those cars. Europe will reap a whirlwind

>>105753860
I bet the numbers will really plummet now that they're in recession

>>105757214
TRUST THE PLAN ELONPEDES!
IF WE SHILL FOR TESLA HARD ENOUGH HE WILL HIRE ALL OF US STRAIGHT FROM INDIA!

>>105754756
I never understood this. They have terrible resale value

>>105757230
Germany has technically left recession with positive GDP growth.

>>105757188
Where are they recovering?
On the stock market? VW is a government owned company, there is no such thing as an indicator of their finances.
In order for VW to go bankrupt, Germany has to declare state bankruptcy.

On the sales numbers? LMAO

>>105756266
His words will haunt them as the recession deepens and they have nothing to show for it except a bill for feeding millions of immigrants

>>105757255
VW is not government owned. The state of Lower Saxony owns 20% of the company's stock.

>>105757252
They said the same thing last year.
They said the same thing three years ago as well.
Then at the end of the year, suddenly, for no reason whatsoever, when the actual budget numbers release, it all dumps.

If you didn't notice that, you can't be helped.

>>105757267
You mean his words about how Europe should surrender to Russia because Putin is supposedly the savior of the white race despite Russia being 30% muslim and 40% non-white?

>>105757246
krautmobiles are status symbols and are still decent to drive even if the resale value implodes. teslas were terrible even before they became synonymous with the orange jew

>>105757278
>VW is not government owned
nigger, VW literally did a crime against humanity when they faked their test results to dump toxic gas into every city.
And the German government bailed them out.

>>105757281
Germany can now make hundreds of billions of debt which should create positive GDP growth regardless of other influences.

>>105757286
>PUUUTIIIIIIIN!!!
Incredibly and utterly psyopped brain you have, there

>>105757291
This is why I buy Japanese

>>105757303
I know how dare I?! Jewtin is the savior of the white race how can I not see that? That's why he's attacking a shitty literally who white nation instead of Israel or the US West Coast.

>>105757302
LOL, sure, debt and GPD go up, but when the GPD goes down the debt remains

>>105757313
Japmobiles are made for manlets and women.

>>105757252
yeah, sure lol

>>105757216
Even as an American, I'm not at all convinced how BYDs are supposedly so terrible.
Like when Biden enacted 100% tariffs, the supposed reasoning was circular.
>BYD needs to be tarriffed because they can't pass crash/safety tests
>It's not worth it to safety test because they are uncompetitive anyway due to tariffs
>no we can't just let the tariffs go as they just won't pass standards!

Kinda lets me know there probably isn't anything wrong and its just protectionism.

>>105757326
Germany could make like $5T in debt before reaching anywhere near US levels of fucked.

Thanks for sanctioning Russia 18 times and for buying our expensive LNG btw., lol

>>105757328
Being a dandy is womanly behavior

>>105753733
It doesn't matter. Even if the shareholders oust him Tesla's reputation isn't going to recover. It's too tied to him and he pissed off all the normal people and then burned all of his bridges with the MIGA tards on top of that.

>>105757297
germans gassing people is just tradition though

>>105757352
Unreliable LNG is worthless now matter how cheap it gets.

oh well, yet again a thread full with shitskins and butthurt belter refugees residing in Germany and coping

>>105752981
Be a plumber if you don't like it.

>>105757341
It's both, but honestly I sleep better knowing people aren't on the road driving those things and parking bombs in car lots

>>105757352
np, we will buy some F-35 as well for multiple billions USD.
Yes, USD, we are ok with nobody accepting EUR.

>>105757371
Your statistic includes all the European, American and Australian people who are predominantly white. Germany itself is still around 88% white European and 75% for the youngest generations.

>>105757371
How many of those foreigners are from other European countries

>>105757389
see >>105757386

>>105757342
True, but you're still fucked.
I don't know what compels Germans to repeat EU talking points. Being fucked together isn't going to help

>>105757378
How can anyone know they won't pass if you make it unviable to import them?

Like what specifically is wrong with BYD cars?
Is it just China bad or are they statistically more likely have issues compared to other EVs?

>>105757401
At least our leaders aren't irrational tariff lovers.

>>105757406
>EU leaders aren't irrational
>they all have pooteen derangement syndrome
lol

>>105757389
>but but they are Romanian gypsies and Albanian muslims rather than shitskins!
lmao, what difference does it make?

They are a foreign culture who have nothing in common with native Germans. No matter if they are "whites" from Latvia or browns. The only identity they have in common, is simping for the EU.
That is why you see them behave the way they do.
Their only cultural identity is via that globohomo project, that mixes a whole continent together and sprinkles muslims on top.

EU citizen here. AMA

>>105757412
If you love invaders so much why are you opposed to open borders in the US?

>>105757427
If you use American census standards Germany would be considered 97% white btw

>>105757431
Careful there, you might trigger the Teslajeets.

>>105757406
Didn't they just do tariffs on Chinese cars a year ago?
Oh wait, the guy on the TV uses a different wording, so its good when my leaders in Brussels do it!

>>105757432
>Russians are pouring over the border!
absolute psyoped brain in action

>>105757412
>implying burgers didn't almost start a nuclear holocaust the last time the russians moved some weapons near their borders
nation of hysterical women

>>105757427
From my experience, anyone who unironically uses the term "globohomo" simps for Russia and muslims.
>>105757450
We do targetted tariffs in coordination with the US. Trump tariffs everyone including America allies.
>>105757458
They are literally invading Ukraine right now and threatening us with nukes. I know American right wingers and pajeets can be retarded af but you got to at least acknowledge reality.

>>105757444
>b but but others are worse
And?
Are you now proud of the EU and demand more immigration from shitskin countries, because "others are worse"? Is this really the right course of action?

How many Americans do you see simping for their oligarchs with the justification "but the EU is worse"?
They all have a closed hatred against their institutions. All of them. Even MAGA.
Meanwhile you simp hardcore for the people who hate and destroy you.

>>105757462
The real question is why you think your loyalty to Ursula von der Leyen will be repaid. I can shit on my government all day long, but Europeans are tools not only to their own levels of corrupt government but foreign governments as well. Absolutely cucked

>>105757482
>Are you now proud of the EU and demand more immigration from shitskin countries
That's what Trump and Musk want, more H1B migrants from India. Fucking based! MIGA!

>>105757475
No, the people who use the term globohomo do not simp for mass immigration.
Someone who opposes global homogenization, literally, by the definition of the word, opposes that.

>>105757475
>I BELIEVE THE NARRATIVE THEREFORE IT'S REAL
complete psyoped brain

Russia is a natural enemy of Europe, so are browns, anglos and Americans(brown anglos)

>>105757497
i'm not yuro and i'm not a burger either
but please don't pretend like you're any less cucked than them
now please send another aid package to ukraine and israel before you kys with fentanyl

>>105752966 (OP)
>MIGAtards would never buy EVs
>Trump regularly attacks Europe and China(main EV markets) so they stopped buying Tesla
>there is no room for two roosters in american politics so Elon got kicked out since he has no real political power
I don't know why this retard supported Trump, he never really had anything to gain from this alliance. He will be remembered as the ultimate cuck that bought Twitter for Trump and got nothing for it.

>>105757501
>No, the people who use the term globohomo do not simp for mass immigration.
You do. I've seen your kind of people openly shill for muslim immigration because the only thing you care about is le gays and le trannies. KYS.
>Someone who opposes global homogenization, literally, by the definition of the word, opposes that.
No, people who use the term "globohomo" exclusively care about LGBT, not migration. I couldn't give less of a fuck about gays fucking trannies but I hate migrants and Russians.
>>105757511
Russia is literally saying it you fucking retard. I swear Russia supporters should all be tortured to death.

>>105757500
And it gets lots of backlash and gets opposed even by the majority of their very supporters.
Meanwhile you blindly simp for your Brussels oligarchs and wipe away any criticism with "but others are worse".

There is NOT A SINGLE AMERICAN who simps for their institutions in the same way you do it.
Even the BLM retards oppose the institutions. The LGBTQ+ flag waving leftoids on pride marches? They oppose their institutions. The MAGAs? Oppose them.
Only maaayybeee the neocons love their institutions, but there is a big questionmark.

>>105757523
The aid has dropped unless Europe pays for it

>>105757522
based
>>105757534
Musk is autistic af

>>105757541
>And it gets lots of backlash and gets opposed even by the majority of their very supporters.
MIGAtards will go along with anything daddy Trump says unless he says something good about the covid vaccine.
>Meanwhile you blindly simp for your Brussels oligarchs and wipe away any criticism with "but others are worse".
No, the EU rightfully got shat on hard for over a decade until they recently started to improve ever so slightly.

OBBBA eliminate subsidies for EVs, he's done.

federal government giveth, federal government taketh.

>>105757535
maybe NATO shouldn't have started it, LOL!
What are you, a pale Jew? Your obsession is absolutely insane; you can't see the forest from the trees. Good luck dying on the plains of Ukraine

>>105757543
The US still supports Israel with dozens of billions conditionless. Because jewish lives mean more to Trump than white lives.
>>105757562
>maybe NATO shouldn't have started it, LOL!
Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia started it and anyone claiming otherwise is just a lying Russian piece of trash.
>What are you, a pale Jew?
White European, unlike you dirty brown Russnegro.
>Good luck dying on the plains of Ukraine
Ukraine will win and kill millions of Russian subhumans. You will die aswell, shitskin.

>>105757203
>To Democrats: -$2,900

He stole money from Democrats?

>>105757535
You are punching a strawman here.

It is very logical to be against middle eastern wars (who cause refugee waves) when you oppose globohomo.
So if you think that "you dont want to wage war around the world" is synonymous with "you simp for muslims", so be it.
I don't think there is anything to discuss here, because obviously you aren't acting on good faith and do lots of projecting and are intentionally misleading.

Yes, i do want arabs to have their arab country. I don't seek to destroy that. I am also i favor of niggers having some nigger country in africa, without us meddling in it.

>>105757543
lol see you in 2 weeks when lindsay graham sends them a billion dollars worth of patriots

>>105757448
I shall

>>105757541
yet when Vietnam happened, american golems peacefully let themselves get drafted while the rest of the world refused to participate in kike wars lmao

>>105757584
>Ukraine will win
https://youtu.be/wcinzmfZeCc

>>105757377
What?

>>105757591
That shit doesn't even work

>>105757535
Globohomo has always been short for global homogization
Actual homo shit is a big part of it as the US is constantly pushing LGBT nonsense everywhere it goes.

>>105757555
If you ever actually read his tweets, he's not mad at the EV tax credits it more that oil and gas subsidies are still in effect while taking it away from EV/Solar

You won't believe me probably.

>>105757535
>i hate Russians
I don't hate Russians. I don't hate anyone. I don't mind what Russians do in Russia. And i think that Russians do have a right of self defense when a country from the other side of the world topples one of their neighbors.
Are you in favor of Americans having proxies in Europe?
I am not.

>>105757613
Year 4 of special operation btw

>>105757589
>It is very logical to be against middle eastern wars (who cause refugee waves) when you oppose globohomo.
Israel can nuke the ME for all I care, just shoot all migrants.
>I don't think there is anything to discuss here, because obviously you aren't acting on good faith and do lots of projecting and are intentionally misleading.
You are obviously lying and gaslighting here.
>>105757613
Ukraine will win. Russia will lose. Putin and his family will be tortured to death for their massive failure. Slava Ukraine! Glory to Europe! Death to shitskins, muslims, Russians and all their supporters!

>>105757591
Paid for by Germany.
And patriots don't even work.
So its just a money transfer from Germany to the USA.

>>105757622
>Globohomo has always been short for global homogization
Posters on /pol/ told me it means LGBT and also said muslims are le based because they hate fags.
>>105757624
Russians are invaders. Invaders need to be exterminated. If you don't believe so, your entire family deserves to be exterminated aswell for you are subhuman.

>>105757613
2 more weeks and Russia will finally occupy that village

>>105757644
Does anything the US produces even work? No wonder no one is buying Teslas.

>>105757598
We do see how drafting in the Ukraine works.
And it will work the exact same way when the Americans order the next proxy into the war.
Or do you think that this war stops when Ukraine runs out of men? Nope.. the next European country will then go in and send heir men, all on order by America.

>>105757632
>Ukraine will win. Russia will lose. Putin and his family will be tortured to death for their massive failure. Slava Ukraine! Glory to Europe! Death to shitskins, muslims, Russians and all their supporters!
LOL

>>105757667
Russia seems to be running out of men first considering how many North Koreans and Indians they are employing. Human wave tactics cause huge casualities after all and Russian women no longer want to have children.
>>105757672
You heard me, shitskin

>>105757649
Which one? Bahkmut?

>>105757586
no idea what it's about. no news coverage.
you hear about campaigns returning funds sometimes because of this or that thoever

>>105757632
>just kill everyone!
>I don't care about those wars that cause the refugee waves, because they kill people and i love it when people die
That is where we disagree.

I noticed in the past years, that there is a huge flood of people who think that they have to want everyone to die to fit-in to 4chan. The more sadistic the more LEGIT 4CHAN you are.

>>105757685
>It's Russia that is running out of men!
LOL!

>>105757697
So why can't Russia just win, what's stopping them

>>105757646
>they are INVADERS
>INVADERS need to be EXTERMINATED
I have the feeling that this opinion is radically different on the subject of Serbia, Yemen, Libya, Afghanistan,...

Pro tip:
The USA has no right to topple a democratic sovereign country and install their proxies there.

>>105757660
Who cares?
As long as the retarded Germans pay for it.
They can sell cardboard tanks and the occupied Germans will pay billions for it when ordered to.

>>105757691
I don't care if shitskins die. That means I must be a supporter of da globahomer right?
>>105757697
Why is Russia hiring pajeets and North Koreans to fight for them?
>>105757703
I don't care for shitskins. Leave them alone if they don't cause trouble (Afghanistan), bomb them if they do.

>>105757646
Like I said, LGBT is a big part of it but it also covers the broader US influence. Like entrenching US companies into foreign economies, bringing the US flavor of capitalism and this also includes any pressure into foreign governments to make them more favorable to the US.

>>105757711
If that was true then the US would enter a deep recession soon.

>>105757701
They are winning.
I just hope that when the dust settles you will remember this mass psychosis you willingly participated in and do a deep dive into how you got so twisted. It's not like alternative media doesn't exist. Are you afraid to not be part of the chorus? There has to be a psychological reason you refuse to seek the truth

>>105757713
Ah yes, the mythical North Korean troops. The fields are littered with their bodies; I just have to use my imagination!

>>105757728
Ukraine is winning this defensive war though. Russia once again got btfo in Sumy and Ukraine got much better at using drones to stop Russian advances.
Alternative media without legit sources is just "dude trust me bro".

>>105757713
>Why is Russia hiring pajeets and North Koreans to fight for them?
There were over 20.000 volunteers from all over the world fighting for the Ukraine in... March 2022.
The Ukraine is the ultimate racemixxer army. You have like 40 countries combined in a glorious melting pot of all skin colors.
And that is ten times the number of North Koreans who temporarily helped Russia.

AND Ukrainians themselves are a product of turks and gypsies interbreeding. So why in the world would you care about them so hard?

You say you don't care when shitskisn die, yet you are ready to kill whole of Europe in a war FOR shitskins, ordered by mulattos from the other side of the world. How does this make any sense?

>>105757728
When are they gonna win? Its 3 and a half year of special operation now, how close are they to winning?

>>105757741
Oh, so all those Asian fighter corpses are Russians then? SAVIORS OF THE WHITE RACE amirite?

>>105757748
funny thing is every time Ukraine brags about stopping the Russians, the front line advances. You clearly believe what you want to believe, just like how you believed the Russians were stopped at Bahkmut. You also have the memory of a goldfish

>>105757753
>So why in the world would you care about them so hard?
Because they're making a country that has three times the population they have slowly collapse in on itself. That's lulzy as fuck.

>>105757753
>There were over 20.000 volunteers from all over the world fighting for the Ukraine in... March 2022.
And hundreds of thousends of pajeets, rajeets and NK drones for Russia.
>The Ukraine is the ultimate racemixxer army.
Ukraine: 99% white
Russia: 60% white
>AND Ukrainians themselves are a product of turks and gypsies interbreeding.
Russians are Mongolion rape babies.
>et you are ready to kill whole of Europe in a war FOR shitskins
We are experiencing a shitskin invasion by Russians right now and we are helping Ukraine exterminate them.

Are Americans rooting for nonwhites now because they are less than 50% white at this point?

>>105757754
Russia already occupies most of the ethnic Russian land. Only Odessa remains

>>105757667
How will Weimerica enforce it's order? By sending it's tranny army?

>>105752966 (OP)
maybe the product is just bad
maybe the product has always been bad

>>105757713
>We need to support Ukraine in the name of LGBTQ+ and mulattos!
>true WHYTE people fight for racemixxers from the other side of the world
>while we DONT CARE about middle eastern wars that bring refugee waves to us
>this is how we will save EVROPA, HEIL JOE BIDEN

>>105757767
Oh no. The Russians have taken another couple wheat fields in exchange for another thousand of their men. Good thing Ukraine has so few of them whe- oh.

>>105757779
Why is the frontline only a few pixels different to 3 years ago

>>105757767
Oh, is this why the frontline barely changed since two years and Russian territory gains have come to nearly a complete halt? Russia is running out of men to use in their human wave tactics.

>>105757783
They don't need to send American soldiers to do the forceful drafting in Ukraine, so why would they need to send them for you.

Just look at what this idiot >>105757713 here writes about.
Those are the people who will draft you.

>>105757790
>>105757792
>>105757794
absolutely psyoped

>>105757788
You Russniggers and Russnigger supporters have done more for fag rights than you realize.
Russniggers are not white. They are Mongolion rape babies, 30% muslim (see Russia Today) and 40% asian/hapa.
Shoot every shitskin at the border.

>>105757794
two years ago:
>WE WILL TAKE CRIMEA WITH OUR LEOPARDS
one year ago:
>WE WILL TAKE KURSK WITH OUR F-16
now:
>hahaha, Russia is advancing too slowly :^), lmao, you are now deep into Sumy, an oblast that never experienced war in the past ten years? LMAO, you are barely even advancing!

>>105757807
TRUST THE PLAN JEWTINPEDE! 2 MORE FIELDS UNTIL GLOBOHOMO IS DEFEATED!

>>105757809
>you are Russian if you don't want to die for gypsies in a war ordered by Joe Biden!
>If mulattos lose their Ukrainian proxy, its over for the WHYTE race! We need to serve our racemixxed masters!

>>105757807
>he didn't watch Putin's literal dialog with history a couple days ago in which he complained about Russia not having won yet
You sound as mentally ill as he did, by the way.

>>105757807
Why can't Russia just win? Why didn't Russia just roll over Ukraine in less than two months like the USA did with Iraq? Is it all 96D chess? Or is Russia weak and gay and has no plan?

>>105757809
>>105757830
Guys... who cares? It's slavs. Civil wars are the height of their culture.

>>105757818
When exactly was Crimea in play? This war was always fought defensively with some attempts to take back land but Russian meatwave tactícs stopped that... for now.
I hope you and your family die a painful death, shitskin.
>>105757830
MUH BIDEN
Russians are subhuman shitskins. They are the brown invaders Europe is fighting against.

>>105753733
Tesla ain't coming back. The damage is done. They're now willing to be consumer friendly.

>>105757822
It's not my war and I really don't care. However, Ukraine was never going to win a war of attrition which was inevitable on flat terrain even without total drone surveillance

>105757822
>resorting to spaming caps lock strawman
lmao

>>105757818
... they took Kursk, and boy, are the Russians getting slaughtered in Sumy.

>>105757833
?
Iran won Iraq

>>105757857
>they took Kursk
When?

>>105757846
>When exactly was Crimea in play?
When they did pic related. When Germans lied to them and promised that Leopards would easily reach Crimea.

Why does it seem like Russia (superpower) is evenly matched with Ukraine? Is Ukraine also a superpower?

>>105757851
A defensive war needs 1 defender for every 3 attackers roughly, given nearly equal capabilities otherwise. Ukraine has the population for that and with an edge in drone tech they can keep losses to a minimum.
>>105757855
>if you don't support Jewtin and Russniggers invading a white nation you must be le tranny npc

>>105757873
I guess he counts the war ending when George W. Bush did that Mission Accomplished speech?
>Based we won no takebacks!

>>105757873
Is this why the USA has military bases in Iraq to this day?

>>105757879
When exactly was that? Can you give me a legitimate source for that? Preferably not a screenshot of a telegram group post.

>>105757884
>This is how Ukraine can still win!
LOL

>>105757875
August last year.

>>105757884
>A defensive war needs 1 defender for every 3 attackers roughly
This old song and dance.

>>105753860
> Driving instructors are expensive and packed to the brim
> Test centre are booked out for months
> Everyone is working from home
Don't be retarded anon.

>>105757891
LOL US didn't win shit. The only winners were Israel, Iran, and military contractors (also the only Ukraine war winners)

>>105757891
USA defeated the Iraqi military and deposed the regime in less than 2 months, why is Russia not at this point after more than 3 years, in a country directly bordering them no less

>>105757909
Oh cool. So I can go see photos and videos of Ukrainian forces marching through the streets of the city of Kursk? What a propaganda victory.

>>105757900
US doesn't have any say in Iraq beyond disallowing some paramilitaries from training there

>>105757925
Wrong. The US always wins. The US has never lost a war, battle, conflict, or police action. America is exceptional and the greatest nation on Earth.

>>105757935
Sure, but don't ask me for readily available footage. Not my job.

>>105757929
I don't know, man. Why do you guys pay tribute to Iranian backed militias in Iraq to not attack your bases if you conquered it so well?

>>105757929
Saddam employed WW2 tactics. Also he was a tinpot dictator who had no logistical nor diplomatic support LOL

>>105757779
And all it took was getting completely demilitarized and becoming the laughing stock of the world.

>>105757945
>Not my job.
A response which could apply equally well to any job lol

>>105757943 <- absolutely delusional

>>105757968
>the laughing stock of the world

>>105757937
>USA has only say in internal Iraqi matters, can station soldiers there and use it as a staging ground for attacks on Iran
Very generous of Iran

>>105757986
Is this the same Afghanistan were Russia got also BTFO while taking 50 times the losses

>>105758030
I'm sorry, I don't speak punjabi. Could you try that again in English?

>>105757968
?
Russia produces more munitions and armored vehicles per day than all of Europe

>>105758050
So why are they unable to win

>>105758012
What tiny portion of Iraq that is occupied by the US doesn't affect Iraq main street. It would be different if we were as rich as we act, but we can't invest in the country and our occupation will come to its inevitable end

>>105758058
They are winning. Open your eyes

>>105752966 (OP)
Nice, he would really deserve to fail. Let's see what he does now that he has licked Trump's ass clean and got discarded like toilet paper.

>>105758076
So losing one third of your strategic bomber fleet is winning? Wow.

>>105758144
See, you're focused on winning a silly argument while Russia is literally winning. Again, when the dust settles, I hope you remember being this foolish

>>105757986
I've seen Russians blowing themselves up, shooting themselves, running over eachother, be dragged to death, drowning, getting blown up while sucking dick, get thrown hundreds of feet into the air, get blown up in ladas, in a golf cart, on a scooter, on an electric unicycle and much much more. I've seen them get gibbed like a Doom game. Blow themselves up throwing an rpg at a drone. Shoot each other trying to shoot a drone. Kill themselves using home made ork weapons. So much insane comedy gold happens that I forget what insane thing I saw the week prior.

>>105758159
I accept your concession, Ivan Ivanovitch. Russia is losing, and you are coping, and there is NOTHING you can do about it.

I can just close the tab.

>post appears, pointing out that EU shills are butthurt belters and refugees residing in Germany
>suddenly the whole thread is flooded with mentally ill butthurt spam about MUH RUSSIA
i am noticing

>>105758188
LOL

>>105758189
What will be their next move when the inevitable happens?

>>105758189
Specifically this post here: >>105757371 leading to this >>105757427
This is undeniably what triggered a mental breakdown of "some person".

Reminder to the resident butthurt belter refugee itt:
You abandoned your homeland, left it for a foreign country, where you don't belong, just because "i earn a bit more there", and are now living in a multicultural city next door to Mohammad and Üzgyr in Germany.

Your whole identity revoles around
>gypsy refugees are good! only shitkins refugees are bad!
Because that is how you justify your own actions. YOU are different. YOU have a right to be a refugee muttifying a foreign country. Because your father cleans toilettes. And anyway, aren't we all EVROPEANS? There is no difference between a Spaniard and a Swede! We are all the same people, so we should mix!

The issue isn’t politics. The cars are just terrible now, and it’s all because of Musk’s stupid ideas
>replace the steering wheel with a yoke
>remove turning stalks and gear selector stalks
>cancel the Model 2
>remove LIDAR for no fucking reason, thus gimping the self-driving features
>make the most useless truck in the world. Shit does not respect any standards. They had to bribe US officials to get it accepted in the States. Zero chance to launch it in the rest of the world .
Tesla still has the most efficienct motors and the best UI. The engineers are doing a great job. But Elon is single-handedly pushing the brand into oblivion.

>>105758291
They were always a meme!
Like the huge giant touchscreen is profound retardation.
I want to be able to turn on the AC while looking at the street. I need to be able to control it blind.
You know what i can control blind? A physical button.

Tesla was extremely lucky that this touchscreen retardation got copied by all the European brands as well. If everybody is equally bad, it cancels it out.

>>105758291
I saw an electric blue cybertruck the other day in a pizza shop parking lot and legitimately thought it was a dumpster at first. I don't know why he picked the same colour as every dumpster around here.

Enjoy your poojeets stinklon must.

>>105753323
Found the AEW tranny.
No Milly?
No womb?
No eggs?
No father figure growing up?

>>105758291
nah he is not. You are just a brainwashed npc repeating what the propaganda machine in europe tells you to repeat every day. The only cars coming close to Teslas are from china and the EU is still fucking them up with stupid tariffs.
Yeah the same sort they flipped out about when Trump announced them.
Anyways
>science will win.

>>105756764
God, I wish.

>>105758661
Yes, Trump is retarded, we know.
Musk paying an individual like Trump to shill his cars makes him retarded by proxy.

>>105754933
I'll die on the hill that this was him being an autistic retard and not an actual nazi salute or whatever. The guy is in bed with lots of Jews and has made pilgrimages to Auschwitz and shit. Even the ADL said this wasn't a nazi salute.
There are plenty of other things he's done that you can get angry about.

>>105754630
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-musk-spacex-security
Literally 15 minutes after DOGE getting login credentials they were used to log into gov systems from russia

>>105759114
>npr
Also
>muh russia
Muh russia was a made up 2016 narrative. You've just been repeating the same thing for nearly 10 years like a 70 yea old MSNBC boomer. I expect more. He won (again) and I demand a new made up narrative. Call him a chinease plant or something. Why did you tards even latch onto russia in 1st place? It was always the left/jews in the west simping for russia selling stares secrets to the soviet union.

Technology?

>>105759045
"Awkward gesture"

>>105759045
He's not even autistic.

>>105753818
>>105753852
>>105753886
I'm far from expert on EVs or cars in general, but I've been watching videos on youtube about BYD cars and yt suggested me some videos from EV technicians. from what I've seen, some Renautl cars have KNOWN ISSUES with ball bearings in the motors. here's an example:
https://www.speakev.com/threads/are-there-repairable-evs-zoe-ze50-engine-bearings.188841/
the ball bearings die early because of wear and tear due to bad design which might end up killing the motors lmao (though it's not only a motor issue, apparently)
it's so bad that technicians recommend replacing the original bearings with ceramic ones, which is very profitable for mechanical workshops

it makes people question whether the manufacturers do it on purpose to make them unreliable... meanwhile, the chinese decided to produce cheap ass cars en masse because they can, have the means, and even produce the fucking batteries themselves

>>105759045
I don't believe he was really trying to dog whistle of any of that retarded shit lefties were shitting themselves about but they literally don't care. I mean, look at Trump, the guy is the biggest jewish cocksucker to ever touch the white house and the left will still come up with a million nothingburger reasons to call him an "anti-semite". It's pretty pathetic.

>>105759251
>uhm did you just mention RUSSIA? ill have you know russia never does anything in fact it doesn't even exist it's just a psyop used to attack my husba- I mean my kinh- I mean my president
>you've been stacking evidence about the same "narrative"? For nearly 10 years! That's not good TV, I want new stuff!
>now let me tell you about the deep state
Can you snowflakes just shut the fuck up? You russian asset is a russian asset, deal with it

you guys are delusional
if tesla fired elon every onions cunt will love them again

>>105759600
all billionaires are extremely selfish sociopaths. you don't get that rich by caring about anyone but yourself and manipulating, abusing and exploiting countless people along the way.

>>105754630
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-07/musk-s-doge-teen-was-fired-by-cybersecurity-firm-for-leaking-company-secrets

>>105754630
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/02/nx-s1-5417994/former-doge-engineer-shares-his-experience-working-for-the-cost-cutting-unit
>I did not find the federal government to be rife with waste, fraud and abuse. I was expecting some more easy wins. I was hoping for opportunity to cut waste, fraud and abuse. And I do believe that there is a lot of waste. There's minimal amounts of fraud. And abuse, to me, feels relatively nonexistent.

>>105754630
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/heres-a-dead-person-on-social-security-in-seattle-with-plenty-to-say/
Actually stole from old people

>>105754630
https://www.newsweek.com/kentucky-nws-staff-cuts-before-deadly-tornado-hit-reports-2073733
Killed 25 people

>>105754630
https://newrepublic.com/post/191319/doge-energy-department-nuclear-weapons
Fired people maintaining the nukes
https://www.yahoo.com/news/energy-department-scrambles-rehire-nuclear-051827381.html
Had to beg people maintaining the nukes to come back

>>105754630
https://www.debtinperspective.com/
>Total DOGE Cuts as % of Spending
>0.950983%

>>105754630
He said he would not shutdown Tesla's ONLY factory at the time during covid. That would have killed Tesla. For the crime of not wanting to sacrifice Tesla in the name of Covid, liberals went after all his companies.

>>105754785
Yes. The same thing they did with the Trump and the Nazi charges with the "both sides" comment. Liberals get propaganda from their network

>>105754717
He's only left with investor bro retards
>duh my phone has no reception that means the robotaxi is driving without cell connection
The car has an antennae bigger than your fucking arm it has a cell connection.

>>105760616
>>105754630
Timeline here.

>He became a billionaire
>Socialist wing of the democrats attack him
>decade later
>He refused to shutdown Tesla for extended periods of time during covid.
>This let to California fining SpaceX/Starlink because of Tesla wouldnt shutdown their only factory during Covid while EVER OTHER CAR MARKER in the US remained open.
>Then Biden gets elected
>Biden admin targets Musk's companies
>They claim Starlink is fake/doesnt work and cancels 1B contract to provide rural internet day 1 of the FCC chairman taking office (out of the 42+ billion given to every one else)
>They target Tesla by appointing a Tesla shortseller and a LIDAR company exec (Missy Cummings) to lead investigation (dozens of investigations, no wrong doing found)
>Fund raiser for Biden admin is a big time Tesla shortseller (Jim Chanos)
>They target Neuralink by delaying it for years due to fake "animal cruelty" claim (no wrong doing was found)
>Biden admin had huge snubbing of Tesla by noting inviting it to whitehouse "American EV event"
>Biden admin tries to sabotage Starlink negotiations with Pentagon by leaking it to CNN
>Then there was purchase of Twitter
>Then Trump being unbanned
>Then Trump being elected
You know the story.

>>105754717
>trust the media
Even only half the liberals barely trust the media. You're not in the ~30% are you?

>>105752966 (OP)
Him keeping his mouth shut would solve 99% of his problems.

>>105752966 (OP)
>piss off one of twitter's biggest userbases and not even for polfaggotry reasons, but by having several outages after the purchase
Yeah it's over

>>105761297
The only reason I have to use Twitter is because all Japanese people use it. I wish there was an alternative

>>105759600
There's no way a non sperg would make that "joke" he made where he offered to get Taylor Swift pregnant or whatever. No way. From one sperg to another, that nightmarish cringe can only come from a guy who fundamentally doesn't understand how normal people think.

>>105760616
>not making cars would've KILLED tesla
Then why would they need over 160 years of taking profit on said sales to make back their price?
Elon cares so soooo much about tesla, that's why he does AI in a separate company tesla has no stake in while he asks for a biggest pay package ever that's more than tesla made in it's entire lifetime.

>>105761577
Yeah, if he likes Tesla so much, how much Tesla isnt doing everything in the world at the same time.