Discussion of Free and Open Source Text-to-Image/Video Models

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>UI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassic
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Models, LoRAs, & Upscalers
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com
https://tensor.art
https://openmodeldb.info

>Cook
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/tree/sd3
https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>WanX (video)
Guide: https://rentry.org/wan21kjguide
https://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.1

>Chroma
Training: https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>Illustrious
1girl and beyond: https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl
Tag explorer: https://tagexplorer.github.io/

>Misc
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Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Samplers: https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers/
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
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First for containment general

Blessed thread of frenship

>>105754990 (OP)
which software do you use to make these collages?
I don't know how to put videos and images in a collage together

>>105754996
Wrong thread kek

replace the teal hair anime girl in the second image with the blue hair girl in the first image. keep the pose the same.

almost

We are fucked

>>105755008
https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#op-paste collage generator link

>>105754940
The solution, as it's always the case with Flux, is to boomer prompt https://files.catbox.moe/j18jdg.png
The workflow may be a little confusing, I've left both options to combine two images into one and pass them separately (the latter will take twice as much time). I was using the first option btw

how long until local models can rival gpt or midjourney? 5000 super refresh is bringing 24gb vram onto mainstream

>>105755025
I will simply not use the cucked models ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>105755077
>5000 super refresh is bringing 24gb vram onto mainstream
what will be the price though, people will ignore it if it's more expensive than the 3090

>>105755077
just overtune a Lora on movies and you have shit journey with more things to alter the image. gpt has the gross piss filter

>>105755119
obviously 5070ti super will be cheaper that 5080 so below $900

>>105755077
>midjourney
Why would you ever, it's such shit.

>>105755157
I like the kino style of Midjourney and I'm tired of pretending I don't
https://xcancel.com/SophiaLinEthics/status/1935660581228630522#m

this is fun

what are some simple concepts Wan understands well? thanks to videos here i found that "water poured" works well, but it's the only one i know. and i can't really test because it's long.

>>105755196
use the self forcing lora to get fast gens

>>105755234
use the self forcing lora to get fast gens

>>105755077
>5000 super refresh is bringing 24gb vram onto mainstream
what's that? Doesn't 5090 already offer 32 GB?

>>105755196
this shit made characters loras obsolete, god damn

>>105755268
Well ty

>>105755234
use metaphors of something stock videos would certainly have for how you want something to move if you find using certain terms don't work.

the girl in the first image is holding a book with a cover that is exactly like the second image.

dont play it asuka...
>>105755196
nice ocarina, fren

>>105755274
3000 dollars for 600w heaters is not mainstream

>>105755284
neat

>>105755303
doooooooooont

>>105755307
anything not 48gb isn't worth it but none of these faggot ass GPU companies want to win

>>105755330
there won't be txt2img models that can utilize 48gb for a while

>>105755307
>3000 dollars for 600w heaters is not mainstream
this

Wan 2.2 waiting room

>>105755330
>intel b60 48gb turbo stands in your way
your move?

>>105755340
we are already at the point of quantizing just to fit 24 gb comfortably. not to mention the end goal here is to have llms and diffusion models running at the same time

>>105755351
TWO
MORE
WEEKS

>>105755365
>Sycl
ummm

>>105755378
there's nothing wrong with quantilization
matter of fact every model must be quantilized

>0.1 increase
meh, how much better can it be

>>105755392
>moving the goalpost
ummm

>>105755077
>>105755157
>>105755183
I think Chroma is Midjourney level at styles, and probably superior in realism and prompt comprehension.
I was doing some comparisons to prompts, eg https://promptlibrary.org/midjourney/anime-demon-girl-render/.

MJ outputs with detailed prompts were matched pretty well by Chroma. But MJ has an additional AI model that rewrites and enhances prompts, adds styles, etc. So a lot of MJ prompts can't be compared because the image wildly diverges from the prompt. MJ users might like this, but I don't see the point of generating images that are borderline random, having almost nothing to do with your intent. You might as well just look at Tumblr or Twitter or something.

Any MJ users ITT who want to provide an image and prompt to compare to Chroma?

>>105755196
how did you replace link with pepe? prompt?

if they make a WAN that runs on 4 GB VRAM I'll officially accept Chinesism

>>105755440
are you on 1050ti

>>105755440
>4 GB VRAM
>4 GB
>VRAM
>4
lol

>>105755440
lil bro get a job

>>105755439
>how did you replace link with pepe? prompt?
all the details (and workflow) are here
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1lo4lwx/here_are_some_tricks_you_can_use_to_unlock_the/

>>105755387
>They didn’t say too much about the new model, except to promise the model will always be open source and they aim to be in top 3 for industry benchmarks.
I believe that, they'll do it, we'll get fucking Veo 3 at home

are the artifacts on her teeth and lips from the optimizations?

>>105755430
Chroma also has the massive benefit of being a model that can be enhanced through concept specific loras and even further full finetuning.

Also unlike with Flux dev, people making loras don't have to worry if they need to pay BFL for a license.

Unless the chinks come out with the 'Wan of image models', Chroma is easily the best model for the local gen community to build an ecosystem around, uncensored, with a fully free license.

>>105755466
I have the workflow, in this case how did you swap the character to pepe for example?

>>105755440
https://youtu.be/bYsvvmlXOh4?t=15

>>105755489
I didn't swap anything, I asked the model to add peepo in there

>>105755430
>>105755488
I just feel Chroma got obsoleted by Kontext, why going back to a simple text to image model when you can go for a model that can render anything you have in mind as long as you have the photo of it

>>105755552
you're right, flux has destroyed chroma, it's over

>>105755552
because it's aesthetically shit

focking funky pop manlet effect I hate that :(

>>105755585
prompt? when I try add the character from the first image to the second, I get gibberish or weird outputs

>>105755552
Because you want more than just a meme generator, are you retarded ?

>>105755552
What if the thing in my mind is kinosoulful styles, can kontext do that?

>>105755552
Perfect for the tiktok-generation of brainwashed drones.

>>105755592
>Full body view, the man is holding the anthropomorphic frog

>>105755580
>>105755597
>>105755611
>>105755613
the chroma shills got triggered hard kek

>>105755615
ah so you dont have to use first and second image as a reference, so when prompting you can assume they are stitched and can just describe both?

I'll stick to flux until chroma gets fully trained and quantized to fp4

>>105755628
The Kontext style transfer is overall shit because Flux has very limited knowledge of styles, it will copy paste a face but it can't make it look realistic if it needs to alter it in any way, any body parts it adds/modifies gets the Flux plastic skin, etc.

It IS great for quick conceptualizing, and memes, that's pretty much it.

The hype will die faster than GPT Ghibli memes did.

test only - please ignore

>>105755650
also it works fine now

full body view, the man is holding the cartoon frog wearing a red shirt and blue shorts. they are on a sunny beach.

>>105755665
no

>>105755650
>you dont have to use first and second image as a reference
no, I don't know how the model would even know what a first and second image means, you have to find other ways to make it understand we're talking about this image over the other
>when prompting you can assume they are stitched and can just describe both?
it is technically stitched, but on the latent space, so it's a bit weird but the model has the 2 images in memory, always, so you can always reference them

>>105755663
>The Kontext style transfer is overall shit because Flux has very limited knowledge of styles
as long as Chroma doesn't know artist styles I won't say that it's destroying Flux in terms of styles, sure it knows a bit better but it's still very generic

>>105755552
Yes, for now. Chroma Kontext when?

>>105755719
>Chroma Kontext when?
never, we don't have a Kontext schnell with the nice apache 2.0 licence, it's over, only the chinks can save us on that one

>>105755734
>the chinks
So in like a couple of months (or even weeks), got it

>someone made an """online workflow extractor"""
>mfw you can drop/drop pngs into comfy

saars, extract your workflows here!

>>105755745
>So in like a couple of months (or even weeks)
oh god I hope you're right

the man is outside the house in pixelized form.

bit big though...

>>105755801
a small version of the man is outside the house in pixelized form.

>>105755819
this is actually really good, it managed to transfer the style of the image onto the guy

>>105755709
It's clearly trained on a lot of art styles but it hasn't named many contemporary artists in the captioning, so you will have to solve that with loras or further finetuning, just like with Flux and SDXL.

I mean perhaps Chroma knows some furry artist names, but I don't want to know.

>>105755824
Oh did it now? Maybe open your eyes.

>>105755830
https://youtu.be/1xnjsArMx-g?t=4

Went to check on reddit to see if they're doing anything interesting with Kontext, they're just recycling 4chan memes from 10 years ago...

>>105755863
>old = bad
nuh uh

replace the character in the middle with a tiny version of the man in pixel art form.

almost a proper sprite...

>>105755745
No, such expressions of time are meaningless to chinese... there is only "soon!" in the Chink AI sphere.
What this means is "weeks, months, never (pls fund us for the real project we want to do to make us rich)"

>>105755869
No, but hardly interesting, I mean yeah I chuckled at this, but seriously people have been doing this for ages without Kontext, only slower

replace the character in the middle with a tiny version of the man in pixel art form, with the same height.

okay, that's decent

>>105755901

That's the problem with fucking filters, you get false positive, it doesn't want to do anything even though I'm not asking for anything remotely NSFW, I think that's the first time we got a model that was trained to refuse prompts and do anything when asked something it dosen't like right?

>>105755914
use the remove clothes lora, it helps uncuck the model heavily
putting clothes on a naked character works with it on, without it that wouldnt work

>>105755910

>>105755914
it probably was abliterated. it's fucking retarded because that and a shitty license is why bfl left in the first place and now they are doing the exact same shit

>>105755914
You should always connect the nudify lora even if you're making SFW prompts because it uncucks it and there's not interference of it always trying to cover up women in burqas because there's some skin visible on their arms. It's basically a mandatory add on imo.

>>105755947
can you share it? I think it was taken down again

>>105755869

full body view, the woman is holding the cartoon frog, and wearing black high heels. they are on a sunny beach. keep their outfits the same.

i tried to follow the tutorial in the op, downloaded a1111, big lust and dmd2 and some loras from tensor.art but when i try to generate something only picrel comes out. anyone know what im doing wrong?

>>105755947
>You should always connect the nudify lora even if you're making SFW prompts because it uncucks it
where can we find it now? and doesn't it decrease the overall quality of the model?

fixed outfit a bit, legs were cropped so it was outpainting

full body view, the woman is holding the cartoon frog, and wearing long white pants and black high heels. they are on a sunny beach. keep their outfits the same.

>>105755914
>He is holding the book with both of his hands
nigga he's no fucking rayman kek

>>105755965
>sdxl Lora
>Sd1.5 model
you dun goofed

>>105755961
>>105755982
you got the opposite of the manlet effect, why her legs are so long? lol

couldn't get their eyes to be correct

>>105755997
it respected the source image, she's tall with long legs, idk why it squishes people sometimes

>>105755950
>>105755972
https://huggingface.co/llama-anon/not-flux-kontext-dev-clothes-remover
https://huggingface.co/llama-anon/not-flux-kontext-breast-helper-lora

>>105755947
didn't work, oh well, I guess I tried

Just learned about Kontext. What are the vram requirements and should I use the nunchaku thing?

>>105756018
>What are the vram requirements
it's the same size as Flux dev, so you have an idea
>should I use the nunchaku thing?
some anon said the quality is on par with Q4_K_M, make that what you will

>>105756014
Which version is newest?

>>105756074
0.15 is newest, according to the creator 0.15 gives pointier tits

Another very exciting feature about Wan that very few people talk about is that it's also a pretty solid image gen model, the major flaw it has is that the outputs are generally slopped for photorealistic stuff, but I knows more styles than base Flux last time I tried it
With a new release (Wan 2.2) they will have a chance to make the image gen component of it less slopped and with better prompt alignment. If they make it objectively better than Flux and Chroma in every regard, I don't might waiting a bit more for inference (it's a larger model afterall)

full body view, the brown hair woman is reading a book with an image of the teal hair anime girl on the cover.

>>105756017

>>105756131
we have been complaining about China slopping their imagen models since pixart

>>105756034
Thanks anon, I'll give the regular release a shot

Is the quantstack gguf conversion for kontext the ones everyone has been using?

https://huggingface.co/QuantStack/FLUX.1-Kontext-dev-GGUF

>>105756160
I use fp16 because I'm not gay

>>105755552
Kontext is not capable of anything unique. It just modifies an image, which is not really what most want to do since that alone confines you to a limited number of images you might not like aesthetically. Chroma can create infinite number of unique images and customize any aspect of a picture given a description. In fact, for editing tasks, if it's simple then Chroma inpainting would be preferable to Kontext usage.

>>105756160
yes

>>105756176
>Kontext is not capable of anything unique.
Kontext can act like a simple text2image model though, it also works without an input image, it's an unified model

>I found this on your room anon, care to explain yourself?

>>105756160
i use nunchaku because im poor

>>105756212
but why is le white people face girl look like she got reduced to 240p and then blown back up in MSPaint?

>>105756176
I think kontext is too big for what it does. the model could be broken down to a yolo model, a handful of controlnets, segmentation and some small to get small res model to gen objects for the purposes of being inpainted without painting something in manually

>>105756171
>I use fp16 because I'm not gay
no you don't, because there's no fp16, flux is on bf16 mode

>>105756238
You making a shitty indian mobile game ad?

>>105756238
>wan is a better edit model than kontext
even gives you a bonus video

>>105756235
>the model could be broken down to a yolo model, a handful of controlnets, segmentation and some small to get small res model to gen objects for the purposes of being inpainted without painting something in manually
you're describing XVerse here
https://bytedance.github.io/XVerse/

>>105756251
kek

>>105756192
That alone is not enough to replace Chroma though.

Look at imgur.com/a/flux-kontext-dev-vs-pro-vs-max-uBazRlo

That is the state of Kontext. It is very accurate and applies to humans and realism tunes (even the NSFW tunes). And we will not get a Chroma style tune anytime soon since the license doesn't allow it. The model is still distilled.

Now, if your only concern is SFW stuff and not genning humans, or animals, then it does replace Chroma. But for most who use text2img models, it does not really replace Chroma.

>>105756261
has anyone actually tested this? it sounds good for not vomiting jpeg artifacts over all the edits

>>105756261
>>105756277
still waiting for this to be implemented in Comfy already. It really should be bigger news. I'm even willing to generate catgirls to whoever does it at this point

>>105756131
>I don't might waiting
* I don't mind waiting

>>105756149
They unfortunately have been training on synthetic slop from API models it seems. The only ones that did a great job with image gen was Bytedance with Seedream (Mogao), but even then it's a huge 20b model and is not open

>>105756276
no, my point was that Chroma doesn't sound so new gen now that Kontext exist, Kontext is just showing that this architecture is the future, an unified model that can do absolutely anything you want, that's what people will ask for now, Kontext is just the first iteration, and I hope something less cucked will replace it yes

generate some shit instead of console warring

>>105756291
>The only ones that did a great job with image gen was Bytedance with Seedream (Mogao)
>Bytedance
that's the same company that made this >>105756261
hype?

Have some vintage.

>>105756308
it isn't warring if everyone agrees bfl cucking the model with ablation and a licence to cuck

>>105756292
Yes, but it's wishful thinking at this point and pure speculation that we will ever get something that is as good and uncensored. The Chinks never released an uncensored pure txt2img model on par with Flux. So saying Chroma will go anywhere even within a year or two is mistaken. It is very unlikely.

>>105756319
yeah but people won't be that angry about it because the model is pretty good, that's the sad reality >>105755025

Once again. I invoke the Mayli Anon. has he compiled his glorious folder of Mayli pics and could he deliver them!

I won't care about Kontext as long as I can't turn a realistic image into a Cutesexyrobutts artsyle one

>>105756326
flux is kinda cucked. not all the way but it's still kinda cucked. Koreans are the only ones putting out smut models but they only have the capacity for finetunes

>>105756326
>it's wishful thinking
I just said that it's possible, I'm not asking for a time machine but a model that can exist in the realms of our world
>The Chinks never released an uncensored pure txt2img model on par with Flux.
I know man stop reminding me about it!! ;-;

yuck

>>105756339
>Koreans
what?

>>105756310
Nah, the open models they release are completely different from the cloud ones, probably different teams as well

>>105756315
based. I was testing this style last night myself.

>>105756363
it's over (for you)

>>105756363
>same uniform color on the whole body
yep, Chroma doesn't have the sovl of the previous versions anymore, it's over

>>105756179
Thanks

>>105756378
cameras in the 1910s weren't very good, this is how it's supposed to look

kontext isn't that good either
It couldn't understand that it says "Bad" because of the way B is written.
I'm trying to change Bad to Black

>>105756357
Illustrious was trained by a Korean nai

>>105756277
>it sounds good for not vomiting jpeg artifacts over all the edits
is it even possible? I thought the jpg artifacts appeared because the vae encode/decode is lossy

>>105756378
It seems like you're complaining the pics being more accurate to a real Nikon F2 or something similar.

>>105756378
it just keeps getting worse?

>>105756291
Seedream is still slopped to hell and back. I have yet to see an API model that isn't slopped.

https://higgsfield.ai/soul appears to be non slopped to an extent but if you look closely it just looks like a really good Flux finetune (but way worse at text), so that's likely all it is.

>>105756402
segmentation would handle the bleed before applying to the output latent I believe? flux seems to exclusively make edits with rectangles that are really noticable

>>105756339
>Koreans are the only ones putting out smut models
Yeah, and then they lock them behind api, just like illu 3.5

>>105756414
yeah, he fucked that model when he decided to distill it since 29.5

>>105756400
what if you put that rectangle thing on the part you want to change, you can do that on kontext

>>105756452
Did you really expect a furry degenerate to deliver?

>>105756460
>that rectangle thing on the part you want to change
how? I'm new to Comfy

>>105756478
in paint. never do manual drawing in comfy

post your flux kontext lora uncuck list

>>105756378
zoom zoom zoom goes the digital native.
the focus and vignetting are from the lens, but the blur and exposure are partly from the film and lighting conditions, partly from the enlarger. the techniques used to create the aesthetic of of photo prints like that is the origin of tools like burn/dodge in Photoshop.
>>105756414
it's getting more accurate. v26 has too much detail and looks like a insta filter. v36 detailed looks pretty close to an actual polaroid.

>>105756498
kek, at this point I won't be surprised a lora specialized on uncucking and removing the filter layers will be made at some point

>>105756498
just mix them into the model

>>105756518
im using nunchaku so i cant

>>105756505
>it's getting more accurate.
*more slopped

I wish I could talk to Stable Diffusion. When will we get there?
(Pic rel, one pic from the early days of /sdg/)

>>105756259

>>105756542
>promptlet

do this with wan in 42 seconds.

>>105756546
>the early days of /sdg/
it's funny because those images doesn't look much worse than SD3M, kek

>>105756378
>>105756542
I do have the impression that the latest Chroma checkpoints are becoming more and more slopped, yes. Even a VHS filter prompt I used to use is not as strong as older versions. But so far, the model is still way less slopped than base Flux and has a really good Lora fine-tuning potential once it's done training (base Flux Dev is VERY resistant against film/camera specific loras for example, it still introduces plastic skin and buttchins no matter how many steps you train the loras, I don't think Chroma will have this problem)

>>105756590
and then you wonder why we call you a cult, you can't accept any criticism of this fucking furry model

>>105756614
nta but my criticism is that there is no cfg 1 svdquant yet :(

>>105756613
yeah i want this big titty chick but, like, in real life. how do i generate that in comfyui

>>105756614
>we call you a cult
This 'we' is only you and the voices in your head, anon

>>105756624
>vramlet detected
OPINION REJECTED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIFXe-usVO8

>>105756636
>our dear furry lord can do no wrong, we all agree with him no matter what
you definitely beat the cultish allegations with that anon lol

I like Chroma for the stuff I'm genning.
Prompt in, 1girl out, but maybe I should pivot back to redheads.

good search engines to find images for style lora training?
i tend to follow artists on twitter and use yandex image search but wondering what else is there

>>105756614
not saying it doesn't have problems. but the model's still learning, which means it's changing.
it probably wouldn't hurt if you changed a little, too, anon.

>>105756703

>>105756542
>sovl vs sovless
So stick with v29 is that the message you want to convey?
https://youtu.be/ZhPepPEVKgY?t=29

>>105756703
>but the model's still learning, which means it's changing.
it's changing for the worse, and you know why >>105756452
you're pretending that it's a coinscidence that it became more slopped since he decided to distill that model, that's why you are called a cult, wake the fuck up retard

Happening

>https://github.com/dvlab-research/Jenga

>>105756767
let me guess, another """lossless""" speedup method that actually destroys the quality of the model? kek

>>105756632
Upgrade to PRO

>>105756738

>gen
>oom
>gen
>oom
anyone else suffer from this?

>>105756879
install linux

>>105756842
it probably wouldn't hurt if you changed a little, too, anon.

>>105754990 (OP)
Quick question
Im planning to build a new pc only for Local Ai purposes (SD / LLMs)
Should i go for 5060 ti or second 3090

>>105756929
second 3090

>>105756934
Thx buddy
What about cpu? Should it be ddr4 or 5?

>>105756929
>>105756951
maybe wait for the rumored 24gb versions of 5070 super

lmao

>>105756966
It will be 16gb still

>>105756966
>rumored 24gb versions of 5070 super
id replace my 3090 with that ngl

has no one tried flux kontext for text to image?
>>105757008
no

>>105757008

Just a Chill guy skateboarding in the street

so training kontext lora on 1024 is 20s/it on nvidia A40 and uses over 30G
on 512 it's 6s/it and uses 21G

>>105757035
5070 super = 16gb
Ti super = 24gb

>>105756919
don't... repeat that in your head for the next week, please.

i'm not very invested in chroma's quality or success. if it's fucked, we still have 40+ different versions to choose from, and at least we'll have learned that it's possible to reasonably uncuck a model, that it should take less than a year and under $50k, and that better things will be on the horizon.
and new models are cool, but this is the infancy of an epoch that will be as big as the change between medieval period and the modern. have fun and enjoy it all. i didn't think this would happen in my lifetime, so i know i am.

>>105757092
>Ti super = 24gb
i wonder how much they are gonna want for this, seems enticing

>>105757089
sounds about right

>>105757093
Based optimist anon

Kontext Dev sloppa

>>105756703
>it probably wouldn't hurt if you changed a little, too, anon.
don't... repeat that in your head for the next week, please.

>>105756951
CPU really doesn't matter when doing AI, 99% is done by the GPU, buy at least 64gb DDR4 RAM for vram offloading when using large models. No point whatsoever to go for DDR5 ram.

>>105757129
he's right, before SD1.5 release we couldn't even dream of doing what we can right now

>>105757093
>>105757129
>>105757149
obvious samefag

kontext dev T2I

>>105755615
Where do you get;
CLIP TextEncode (NAG negative prompt) node from?
I can't see it anywhere.

>>105757164
the style is pretty cool, did you use a lora?

>>105757164
>>105757130
these look familiar
the retro anim lora?

>>105757164
imagine the smell....
must be good

>>105757180
>>105757183
yes, anon yesterday posted fp4 flux.dev results and i asked him for a workflow to compare flux.dev int4 with fp4 but i couldnt be bothered to do that and this idea popped into my head
https://civitai.com/models/721039/retro-anime-flux-style

>>105757179
do you use that workflow? >>105752227

>>105757160
idk about the other two but don't lump me in with them

>>105757199
>but i couldnt be bothered to do that
hey but I wanted to compare too

>>105757199
huh? I thought flux dev loras didn't work on kontext

>>105757213
they work like shit from my own testing. a properly trained kontext lora on image pairs is so much better

>>105757211
.. im sorry but i moved flux.dev from my ssd to my hdd.. just today in fact
if you insist ill copy it to my ramfs and test it out just for you...
>>105757213
they work on kontext sometimes, but right now im doing text to image kontext, without any images for editing

>>105757210
>what is inspect element

>>105757236
>if you insist ill copy it to my ramfs and test it out just for you...
no need
I was just curious whether blackwell arch fp4 improvements actually yield decent results

>>105757254
nigga i ain't putting effort into inspect element to entertain retards like you

>>105757210
hey me. he finally caught us. let's give it up.
>>105757254
anon, go answer the door. it's time for you to learn the truth.

>>105757296
why. does. this. schizo. talks. like. this?

>>105757254
>>105757292
I don't care about your pathetic feud, you both outed yourselves as newfags. Lurk moar.

>>105757296
i inspected all the elements in 5 seconds and changed them to pretend again

>>105757256
heres result albeit with flux.dev older int4 i dont know if there's any differences
fp8_e4m3fn t5 too lmao
your pic: files.catbox.moe/bcv0uh.png

>>105757201
no, i didnt see it posted, i just built it from the image posted. I tried the one you linked and got picrel
im using the 8bit gguf and t5xxl_fp16

>>105757330
>This is a title
it indeed is

>>105757334
did you update comfyui and all the packages?

>>105757330
what are you saying?

>>105757333
I think I get about the same picture with t5 fp8 clip, so it's probably down to that
How fast was the generation? It takes me around 30 sec per pic once the model was loaded initially

>>105757387
35/35 [01:30<00:00, 2.57s/it]
3060
1000x1500 bruh..

>>105757358
why can't the software do it for me?

>>105757358
Updated "all" and I only installed the NAg stuff an hour ago, same error on SamplerCustomAdvanced node.

i find this to be a decent workflow for kontext style loras:
- gather like 20 images of your intended style
- use free BFL credits to run them through Kontext Pro/Max "make this image into a realistic photo style"
- train your lora on the reverse pairs

>>105757415
>>105757433
show a screen of your whole workflow

>>105757414
5070 is about twice as fast as 3060 in pure compute (my undervolted 5070 scores 170k)
https://browser.geekbench.com/vulkan-benchmarks
So being 200% faster in img gen in fp4 points to about 33% arch improvement. Thank you.

>>105757440
>synthetic data slop training
:(

>>105757472
you're training on reversed pairs so only the inputs are synthetic, which is preferable

He did it bros!

>>105757490
billions must meme

>>105757449
it's >>105752227
workflow the only changes are the two source images, and the model and i changed the CLIP to cpu.
If i do the whole screen the values in the nodes are too small to display.

whats she saying?

>>105757568
fuzzy wuzzy was a woman

>>105757568
>'I will kill you in your sleep' in spanish

>>105757472
>synthetic is bad because it just is okay, sure your eyes can't tell the difference but I'm sure it matters to someone

after extensive research, i conclude the 480p model sucks. using the 720p with a bunch of optimizations will always look better than 480p with no optimizations.

>>105757539
My guess is that you downloaded the wrong gguf, go for that one
https://huggingface.co/bullerwins/FLUX.1-Kontext-dev-GGUF

>>105757623
>yeah goyim, forget about the years of documented evidence that training models with synthetic data makes them ultra slopped (especially on chinese models)

>>105757629
I'll try that, it seems a sensible path to take. Thanks.

Is there a difference between umt5xxl and t5xxl text encoders? I can't get kontext to run.

>>105757651
scat's back?

>>105757628
how do you deal with slow mo tho

>>105757639
>documented evidence using SDXL outputs
I mean this seriously, do you use your brain?

>>105757623
>>105757689
wait, people are still deying that training on synthetic data is never the best idea?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-02355-z
>AI produces gibberish when trained on too much AI-generated data
>Generative AI models are now widely accessible, enabling everyone to create their own machine-made something. But these models can collapse if their training data sets contain too much AI-generated content.

>>105757673
>Is there a difference between umt5xxl and t5xxl text encoders? I can't get kontext to run.
there is, umt5xxl is for wan, t5xxl is for flux, chroma and kontext

>>105757623
Synthetic data is bad because all ai training will generalize the data, this is the reason that even if you train on a gazillion people, if you prompt the resulting model for man or woman you will get the same generic faces. The AI has generalized them into these specific outputs.

So when you train on synthetic data you have lost so much variation and detail already, and then the new training will generalize further, losing even more variation and detail.

So, synthetic data is shit, I would only use it for lora if you want to guide real world data towards a certain look, I would never use it for a large scale finetune if I had any other choice.

>>105757677
i dont have any slowmotion when i dont use lightx2v + NAG, i put slow motion in the negative and its fine. maybe 1 in 8 gens will be slower but I speed them up in when i edit the video if i need to.

>>105757704
You are truly retarded, you're one of those "water must be bad because drinking 10 gallons at once kills you". You can train a Lora with 20 images and prove your assertion wrong. Why synthetic is typically bad is because -- get this -- synthetic has lots of artifacts. Feel free to prove a cherry picked 20 image synthetic dataset of a concept will make a bad Lora.

>>105757673
nonono. "black liquid".
isn't umt-5 xxl just multilingual?

>>105757723
It can't be that simple. I will try this and decide if you're fucking with me and report back

>>105757677
You can counteract the slow mo with a Lora with proper movement.

>>105757727
>noooo don't trust the Nature's paper, trust me instead
nah I'll pass

>>105757745
>bro we trained on incestuous outputs from a training model millions of times so this is why your cherry picked 20 image Lora is bad.
It must suck living life based on taking everything at face value and never thinking.

>>105757759
>AI Incest and inbreed is good actually
says no one, except the inbreed fucks like you obviously

>>105757719
No one fucking said large scale, this conversation is literally about a Lora that takes synthetic anime image realistic image pairs.

>>105757775
yeah you're not even listening because you're incapable of critical thinking, what I don't care, you're a notrainer anyways waiting for my incestuous scraps

Guys drinking too much water kills you based on this paper so I think we shouldn't drink any water.

>>105757789
>nooo I said large scale, when you make a lora it's impossible to end up with slopped renders!!! don't worry about it, synthetic data won't impact the sloperino level of your images!!!
https://civitai.com/models/678249/muscle-couples

>>105757712
aaah, i guess that's it then. thanks.
Is there a way to link them in extra model paths because Comfy can't seem to see them?
>>105757739
glad to hear it's strictly "black liquid"

>>105757789
The rule still applies, if you can, always avoid synthetic data.

Also given how it has already been generalised, it will train faster than non-synthetic data, meaning you need to adjust your set to accomodate for this else it will overtrain really fast.

Overall it is pure shit, it's the reason Flux can't generate a realistic person to save its life, plastic, cleft chin, deadest eyes, the same 100 poses and hand gestures recycled over and over again.

>>105757837
Guys, poisons don't exist actually when you use the water analogy, me am really smart

>>105757838
Yes anon, if you use slopped inputs you get slopped outputs. That has nothing to do with using non-slopped inputs, this is why you don't have a brain because you can't differentiate between the two.

Can you believe this, if you have shitty inputs you get equally shitty outputs!

train on reality: get shoddy AI interpreted reality
train on shoddy AI interpreted reality: get even shoddier AI interpreted reality

I think the difficulty understanding comes from ego
>MY gens are perfect!
they're not, sorry

>>105757933
>synthetic data
>non-slopped inputs
kek

Wish I could just stack infinite loras onto a base model without having to worry about lobotomizing it.

It turns out comfy already has an "image concatenate" node.

>>105757970
>he ran the custom .whl
oh no no no no

>>105757957
Yes I'm sure you can differentiate every image that is AI generated.

>>105757933
>if you use slopped inputs
but how did they get those slopped inputs in the first place? and why did the model that made those slopped inputs is slopped in the first place? can't wait to see your answer anon

>>105757978
?

>>105757979
You can't? LMAOOO

>>105757983
Anon let me be very clear, your outputs will look like your inputs. I can pick very real Deviant Art images made in 2014 and get really shitty outputs. Now, let's see your claim that any AI input results in bad outputs no matter the quality.

>>105758006
You are making me bored.

>>105758002

>>105757979
YES. IS THIS NIGGA SERIOUS?

>>105757979
you're joking right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwSts2s4ba4

>>105758014
grand inquisition?

>>105757470
uhhh i forgot to unpower limit it from 100w
heres results again but with:
150W:
35/35 [01:12<00:00, 2.07s/it]
170W (default/stock pl):
| 35/35 [01:09<00:00, 1.99s/it]

>>105758075
well then fp4 makes no difference to speed, and apparently accuracy as well

>>105758016
Post your best AI image.

>>105758104
this bot seems broken, its the one that's supposed to show a perfect AI image we're supposedly unable to differentiate with the real world

>>105756378
>>105756607
>Anon blames severe skill issue on the latest version of Chroma

Many such cases. Not producing the same exact output is not the same as not being able to do the same style of output anymore.

>>105758104
I'm agreeing with you, faggot

>>105758104
you can't handle the best image but THIS is PEAK beauty. the rest of these faggots are nowhere close to me and my technique I've HONED and FOCUSED on for YEARS. not going to respond to jealous trolls

OH NO we summoned the fucking chroma plastic "asian" ladyboy mystery meat footfag. quick, link your ish from last month to prove your point.

I'm voice of the contrarian.

>>105758134
No you're not, I suggested that it's impossible for you to accurately determine if an image is made by AI or not.

>>105758123
I'm curious what you think is a good AI image in the first place. I'm not going to play the retarded game "try to fool anon by posting a series of real or fake images", anyone with a brain knows your assertion is false, you do not even have a 90% detection rate outside of me posting typical SDXL slop or Flux-face 1girls.

>>105758177
>I'm not going to
Concession acceped.

>>105758161
>i can hear the fbi crime statistics
aaahh

>>105758200
At least explain why I think doing this game is retarded.

>>105758166
this guy is really retarded, I'm trying to find a way to filter his ass

>>105758177
I'm DEFINITIVELY saying that you can and it's not even difficult. Try jacking off less and saving some zinc for your eyes

>>105758222
Then you're a retarded contrarian.

Fresh

>>105758237
>>105758237
>>105758237

Fresh

>>105758226
>t.

>>105755025
We have a fucking general that gets up every day, why aren't you guys posting gofile links or whatever with loras here? That's because you don't train shit.