Thread 105758042

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, X5/M, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y70/60, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (gaming included): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7700/X, 9700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (13/14th gen -K CPU BIOS update required)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported, BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580, SN770
High end: SN850X
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU: compare value for money & features, Optiscaler mod expands FSR4 support
Budget: Arc B580, used cards
Mid range: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-performance 1440p & Mid-range 4K: RX 9070 XT, RTX 5070 Ti
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX550/650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: Acer M3BMIIPRX, AOC Q27G3XMN (stable), NEW Q27G40XMN (beware: QC lottery)
4K: Gigabyte M28U/M27UA, ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>> >>105707358

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid-range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 G2, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>105729201

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super series rumor update (5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB)
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-also-planning-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-super-with-24gb-gddr7-memory

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: Thermal gel solution has QC issues.
Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/
https://www.igorslab.de/en/gigabytes-so-called-server-grade-thermal-conductive-gel-and-a-degrading-thermal-paste-on-the-radeon-rx-9070-gaming-oc/

AOC Q27G40XMN: Nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor if you win the QC lottery.
Bad one causes HDR content to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option [Strongest].

SSD recommendations happen to be all-WD/Sandisk because they're performant in both Windows & Linux.

>Additional PSU Reviews
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies

For PSU tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?usp=sharing

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's price/performance is good & if you're willing to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks in the future.
RX 9070 non-XT: current 9070 prices in the US are too close to the 9070XT's to justify recommendation.

>Others
Leave constructive feedback to help improve the OP (including news worth sharing).
Share PC building-adjacent interesting/silly images for the next OPs.

*wins the gpu race*

>>105758231
for me, it's the Pulse

>>105758231
>>105758249
would be more fun if ayymd competed

>>105758279
I'm not gonna spend thousands on a GPU so I don't really care

Reminder to budget for a display that costs about the same as your graphics card when you decide to upgrade.

my room is literally 36 degrees and my pc is melting (13900k and 3090 rtx)

>>105758292
the 5090 into 55" oled tv pipeline was real after all...

>>105758042 (OP)
What's the best GPU for <$300?
Is Arc B580 basically it? Something that uses less watts would be cool, lower power draw and less heat for small little desktop computer.

>>105758415
Arc or used 6700xt

>>105758415
Low-profile 4060 and 5060 exist, but they're above your price point.
RX 6600 feels bad to recommend in '25.
Your best bet is the used market.

>>105758279
NVIDIA can afford to sell big GPUs like the 5090 because there's an enterprise market that will pay a premium for the better-binned GB202s.
AMD should be able to make good $300~$1000 cards with UDNA, they make competitive GPUs when Sony & Microsoft need them.

It's me, dead power supply dual radeon anon, I removed a ball of solder that was rattling around in the new power supply and it is time to test it

Should I return my NH-U12A and get a D15 G2? For a 9800x3d in a Fractal North. I'm already overspending on the cooler, I feel like I should have just gone all the way.

>>105758523
anon that's a ridiculously bad idea

>in UK
>decided only going to play Stellar Blade and maybe Dynasty Warriors: Origins if talking about resource-heavy game, will wqait for Pragmata
>usually play War Thunder
>upgrade from 5700 XT
I guess I can buy a 9600XT within £380, wait for a year and get UDNA especially when Pragmata comes out? That's a viable strat, right?

>>105758534
just wait 50 years until you're dead to buy

>>105758366
hotspot niggas

>>105758523
I always hate having to plug everything back in

>>105758528
NH-D15 G2 won't be worth the difference because a 9800X3D doesn't draw that much power.
About 3~4°C difference @ 125W, but the 9800X3D doesn't draw that much power in a typical gaming load.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/noctua-nh-d15-g2-cpu-cooler/6.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/23.html

>>105758534
Mid-range UDNA like a 10060XT (??) will probably be released in '27.

>>105758231
> not even competitive
> "winning"
Radeon is the hohol among graphics cards

>>105758528
no, unless you're gonna buy an AIO instead. Just use it.

>>105758366
open the door and windows?? 36 degrees is wild, i recall a guy died under those circumstances, mining bitcoins back in the day, died of dehydration. You're insane.

>>105758603
nta but what's the ambient/room temperature there?
I have an arctic freezer III pro 360 and I can easily reach 70-80 degrees in like cinebench or high fps gaming

I have a great airflow case, but my problem is the room is like 36-37 degrees
idle temps are like 50 degrees (it was 55+ with air cooler)

>>105758534
if you're looking at waiting 2+ years for an upgrade you want now, your priorities and lifestyle is completely cooked anon. Fix your shit.

>>105758499
> AMD should be able to make good $300~$1000 cards with UDNA
They should have sold the 9070 XT for 550 bucks, as AMD Unboxed advised, and everybody including myself would own one by now. Instead they made me get a 5070 Ti because it was only little more.
If they keep being this stupid nothing will ever change no matter what they produce.

>>105758603
>>105758664
What I'm thinking is that, since I'm going to play games that are not so demanding, I can get myself a mid range RDNA4, and then when UDNA comes I may as well buy a flagship/high-end UDNA.
I mean, £700 for either a Sapphire Nitro+ or XFX Mercury OC MagAir RX 9070 XT seems not a good choice. £600 for a RX 9070 is acceptable to me.
Or you are saying RX 9070 XT on Pragmata is OK?

>>105758658
Not disclosed on that specific review, but other CPU cooler reviews say they test @ 20~21°C ambient.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/fsp-ae36-aio-liquid-cpu-cooler/7.html

>>105758720
okay that's a big difference, thanks
once winter gets here I'll see what I get

>>105758581
oh how I missed the sounds of two 6950s whirring, we're so fucking back

>>105758677
>They should have sold the 9070 XT for 550 bucks, as AMD Unboxed advised.
AMD needs Radeon cards to generate enough profit to justify producing those GPUs over making more Epyc/Ryzen chiplets.


>>105758691
>Or you are saying RX 9070 XT on Pragmata is OK?
I'd hope so, considering it's made on the AMD-favored RE Engine.
Why not the 9070 XT Pulse?

Consider ease of resale & resell value if you plan to buy a card every generation.
Reselling worked out well for some last-generation cards.

>>105758823
Fucker is insisting on making the projector the main display every time I reboot, bitch no the crt is the main display REEEEEE

>build adult little sister a pc
>r9 5900x 3080ti 2tb ssd 64gb ddr4 ram
>install windows and drivers for her
>install foobar2000 eole theme
>remove onedrive and reassign folders to be local
>use shutup10 to debloat
>set up msi afterburner and fan profiles to make it as quiet as possible
I love being an older brother.

>>105758987
Seems I spoke too soon, rebooted again and it got stuck here. Not sure why I don't just get one of the completely normal computers and bring it in here instead of this jalopy of a machine, but that's autism for you.

going to buy a prebuilt for the first time when the 6090 comes out

I bought a protection plan for my GPU from Microcenter. I want to use it now and use the money to upgrade to a 5090. The thing is my GPU is fully functional and has no issues. What issues can I say the GPU is having to the Microcenter staff to ensure they accept my return?

>>105759012
I hope you're at least having sex with her

>>105759052
>when the 6090 comes out
we're a year and a half out from that. I think nvidia is waiting for TSMC fabs to ramp up production of their smaller nodes.

>>105759047
There we go, like nothing ever happened. Until it breaks again. Inevitably.

>>105759091
Why did she install this game to her PC first bros?

i need a screen that's vertically tiltable.
any recs?

>>105758279
saw this dude lose his mind (and his eye) over a 5090

still mad to me Nvidia launched that shit sending 0-4 to stores lmao January was a wild time

>>105758577
that's fine
won't even throttle

>>105759431
how many people who showed up to the stores walked away with a 5080 cope card?

>>105758534
>>>decided only going to play Stellar Blade
yeah you're hardly gonna play that game with zero porn mods so you'll need as much vram as possible

I'm having this weird problem playing games on my new 9070 XT PC

It's like when the game first starts the main monitor freezes for as long as the game window is in focus. I can hear sounds but the picture is frozen. If I alt tab and move my mouse to my second monitor and then go back to the game it plays normally.

I can live with it but it's annoying, does anyone know WTF this is?

Did my post get eaten by a Grue?

Whatever, help me put together a legit FM2 build. Looking at an A10 processor. What videocard?

>>105759593
try disabling mpo. it fixes multi monitor issues. you can google it.

>>105759593
Turn off FreeSync/Adaptive Sync in Adrenaline and in your monitor’s OSD.
If that solved the issue, Windows MPO might be the issue.

>>105759667
>>105759675
Thanks

>>105759593
I have had similar issues with some browsers. There's an issue with Cisco's video uh... look, idk what it is, it's like a plugin thing. It can cause problems.

epic

https://www.techpowerup.com/338456/rosewill-launches-thor-nas-thor-nas-pro-cases-for-diy-nas-and-nvr-builds
>THOR NAS: Base configuration supports 11x 3.5" HDDs + 2x 2.5" SSDs via internal trays. Its true power lies in extreme scalability - equipped to accommodate up to three optional Rosewill hot-swap drive cages (sold separately). Adding these cages transforms it into a high-availability solution supporting up to 12x hot-swappable 3.5" HDDs + 2x 2.5" SSDs.
>THOR NAS Pro: Delivers out-of-the-box readiness with 8x pre-installed hot-swappable 3.5" bays (via two included cages). This is complemented by support for an additional 5x 3.5" HDDs + 2x 2.5" SSDs via internal trays, totaling an impressive 13x 3.5" HDDs + 2x 2.5" SSDs. The Pro model offers maximum flexibility and uptime from day one.
>Both models offer front-panel newest USB 3.2 TYPE C port
FINALLY more options for hoarders. Thank you Rosewill!

>>105759814
we need more rack-mount cases

>>105758523
>smart
say goodbye to your 6970s

>>105759642
Some of my replies weren’t being posted a few months ago.
I don’t think it was some kind of content filtering, I wasn’t shitposting or using inflammatory language.
I had to write my replies on Notepad and shared the screenshot, kek.

>>105759814
>base configuration has zero intake fans and 11 5.25" bays
What the fug???

>>105758042 (OP)
Why is my hodgepodge Z400 the OP image? I should update these images, at least one of the laptop HDDs has been swapped out since my music collection grew to large for it. All the other HDDs are stored in the 5.25" bays an SSD in the FDD bay.

>>105759148
Seriously?

>>105759651
For Radeon, a GCN1 card released in '12 or '13. Maybe the HD 7970.
For GeForce, a GTX 600.

>>105759651
HD 7870

>>105759667
>>105759675
>>105759691

Okay I fixed it and it was something stupid. I had moved the Display Port cable for the monitor from the GPU slot to the motherboard slot.

But the reason I did this, was because when I plug my TV into the PC only the motherboard slot allows the TV to get 120 FPS, when I had it plugged into the GPU it was capped at 60, so I thought the motherboard slots must be higher quality?

Total retard here 1st time tinkering in my PC. I bought a new WD Black Gen4 SN850X NVMe 4TB SSD to my ROG Strix B550-F gaming wifi motherboard. I removed the heatsink that was already screwed in the motherboard and I put the SSD in the socket, it clicked. So now I have to simply put the heatsink over it and screw it over the SSD(pic related the top of the pic is the underside of the heatsink, I peeled a tape that was over the white foam because it said REMOVE)? Is it a problem if the heatsink is a lot longer than the SSD? After physically installing the SSD, is it good to Go? Do I need to do any kind of formating or installation on the computer after?

>>105759347
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/vertical
Dell P2425H looks nice if 1080p is fine.

What the heck, I thought the 9070 was good???

>>105760320
>I peeled a tape that was over the white foam because it said REMOVE
That tape kept the thermal pad in good condition until you needed to use it, the tape would've interfered with the heat transfer if you left it on.

>Is it a problem if the heatsink is a lot longer than the SSD?
No, it's good for an SSD heatsink to have a large surface area for heat dissipation.

>Do I need to do any kind of formating or installation on the computer after?
You might have to go to "Disk Management" and create a new drive partition to use that drive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGqo17dGk0E

I would also download the drive utility to check if you need to update the drive's firmware.
It's probably the SanDisk Dashboard.
https://support-en.sandisk.com/app/products/downloads/softwaredownloads

>>105758529
>>105759856
It worked

>>105760455
But for how long?

Canadafag here, which of these three SSDs is the best price/performance ratio? All are 1TB btw and prices are in canadian monopoly money:

SN770 - $85
990 EVO PLUS - $95
SN7100 - $105

>>105760467
SN770 is the oldest and least performant.
990 EVO PLUS and SN7100 have similar performance & same write endurance in Windows.
SN7100 if you use Linux.

SN770 is the oldest and least performant.
990 EVO PLUS and SN7100 have similar performance in Windows & same write endurance.
SN7100 if you use Linux.

Any of you into watercooling?

What would this do for a Threadripper and 2 5090s? 1650W cooling capacity. Is it better to use a bunch of gaymer fans and traditional radiators in a normal loop? These chillers seem more simple.

>>105760506
>SN7100 if you use Linux
why

>>105760460
You got me there

>>105760510
Samsung SSDs don't handle Linux database workloads very well.

>>105760507
Chillers use a fair bit of power themselves and will dump all that heat plus the 1650W into the vicinity
If you want external cooling, a mora 420mm external radiator would be better than a chiller for long term use

>>105760507
I think they make a load of noise. Jayz no sense, tried one and it was crazy loud for a small benefit.

>wait for supers
>Windows 10 support ends and no TPM 2.0 CPU
>probably scalpers and stock issues for another 6 months plus a fat increase in prices
>then the 60 series comes out
I hate the fucking state of PC shit right now

i outright detest how gaming peripherals look. it drives me almost violent how i can't get the specs of a "gaming" monitor in a ordinary looking office screen, it HAS to be either/or.
even with basic shit like computer components. if i want a high-end 5090 AIB i have to pick something with the tacky veneer of a sonic level. i refuse to believe the teenagers this supposedly appeals to also has the purchasing power to get it. which begs the question who actually enjoys this crap.

>>105760614
5090 astral is pretty clean but not cheap
I got the 5090 aorus master ice myself since it's white and not fugly like the palit/msi versions

>>105760614
MSI suprims look decent

CPU super cold

>>105760731
of course it's cold when your CPU's idling

>>105760360
AMDs ray accelerator implementation causes it to fall behind in PT workloads, but PT is unusable even on the 5090 most of the time at modern resolutions from the performance hit, upscaling remedies this somewhat but "solutions" like framegen are an objectively inferior way to experience a video game.

I have a Intel Core i7-10700F with a MSI MAG Z590 TOMAHAWK WIFI

any tip with installing

Thermalright Frozen Prism 360

It's really installing the back plate that has me nervous

Generally should a top exhaust fan go towards the very back of the case or positioned directly above the CPU cooler for best results? Or should I just leave it out and stick with one rear exhaust? Also curious what config might be better for dust prevention.

>>105760869
does your case not allow you to access the back of the socket through the right side panel

>>105760908
I have a corsair 5000d it should I believe

>>105760360
>RT Overdrive

>>105760568
>>105760570
Thanks chaps

>>105760731
What cooling?

>>105760961
It should be manageable then

Has nvidia fixed their drivers or is it really time to switch to amd?
Why did nvidia decide to fuck everything up right around the time I decide to get a new pc?

>>105761056
its fixed to a great extent compared to how it was in early Feb

Any thoughts on below build.
$2700 usd
What would you change/upgrade/downgrade.
Was hoping to find a deal on 5070ti in Australia but price difference to 5080 Paulit Gaming Pro is nothing

>>105761130
Forgot to post image

>>105761136
>motherboard
msi's -P is built much worse than their other boards. not sure about the x870 but the previous x670 version was really buggy and prone to random boot issues
>ssd
the nv3 uses slow and cheap QLC nand and doesn't have dram so performance will drop off a cliff as fill it up. i suggest you opt for something with better performance like the sn850x, 990 pro, 9100 pro or sn8100 (worst to best)

>>105761136
>cooler
go with a tower heatsink or 360mm aio instead of that 240mm aio which has all the flaws of aio water coolers but none of the benefit of being better than large air coolers that large water coolers have

>>105760604
Buy a card when you need it and when the price is more reasonable.
VRAM, 16GB should be enough.
People complain about the install sizes of current titles, and game devs can't afford to raise system requirements too much.
There's no incentive for console manufacturers to expand VRAM capacity if you consider the scale they operate.
>Assume $10 extra in BOM by having more than 16GB GDDR7 VRAM * 80 million lifetime Sony console sales = $800 million.

>>105760614
I've accepted these parts are targeting kids & young adults.

>>105761056
Get AMD if you're Linux gaming. Windows drivers have gotten better.
Microsoft also had to fix some display-related bugs caused on their end.

I'm planning to upgrade my CPU, motherboard, and GPU. The CPU is very old (i9 9900k), but the GPU is more recent (RTX 3080). I want to transfer the GPU into a mini ITX server so I can generate AIslop. Is this viable or am I just creating a house fire?

>>105761233
Should be fine if you do picrel

>>105761056
You think the singular blackscreenposter here and a smattering of seemingly-hysterical-but-snide complaints in faraway article comment sections and literally nowhere else is an indication of real problems?

>>105761233
You might want to keep that 3080 undervolted and set a power limit to around 280W.
These GA102 chips have a vulnerable power delivery design, transient current spikes can slowly degrade and kill VRM components.
The spikes happen when the GPU goes from low to high loads.
Stable Diffusion can cause those spikes too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbP0YRhXHCk

>>105761056
the driver problems meme is just amdrone fud.

>>105760731
>super cold
>literally just average idle temps

Speaking of stable diffusion is there any reports of 50 series cards not handling it well? Say 5070 TI's?

>>105761329
No why would there be

>>105761329
blackwell is built for ai first. that would be the last thing to happen

>>105760731
get real

>>105761329
The GPU power delivery design & components improved starting with the 3090 Ti.
12V-2x6 power connector's safety margin is greater than 1.5x if your card draws less than 440W of power.
The 5070 Ti should be safe.

Is there any reason to upgrade to a 9070 XT from my RX 6800, say if I saw one on sale for cheap?

Been looking for a cheap monitor for both gaming and standard office work, I'm aware of what's important for games but which features would be the most significant for the latter?

>>105761667
its base performance is a lot higher and you get good upscaling support with fsr4 and competitive RT performance that's equivalent to an rtx4080

>new steam overlay is actually perfect
with hwinfo, fancontrol, and now the new steam overlay, i have no need for msi afterburner

>>105761681
Eyesafe certified monitors are worth considering, there are some reasonably priced eyesafe gaming monitors.
https://eyesafe.com/display/
https://eyesafe.com/products/?_eyesafe_product_types=monitor-gaming%2Ceyesafe-certified-20

>>105761682
Cheapest 9070 XT models here are around AU$1300, and I could probably sell my 6800 for AU$600 or so. The most demanding games I want to throw at it would be Cyberpunk and GTA 6 whenever that launches. I'm just trying to weigh up whether that $7-800 difference is worth it, and if it would be a good card for the next 4-5 years.
This would be for 1440p gaming with a 7900X / 32GB RAM, for reference.

>>105761762
>GTA 6 whenever that launches
I would wait until the specs for the game are announced.
Rockstar might release the PC version sooner than they've done before to get as many people into the new GTA Online component.

>>105761705
Is that the new overlay at the top

>>105761800
ya, only thing that's missing is being able to change font color

>>105761739
Thanks, pretty good resource
How about the higher refresh rates, can they make a noticeable improvement in eye strain when working, compared to a regular 60/75hz monitor?

>>105761867
I don't know whether higher refresh rates reduce eyestrain, some like working @ 120Hz or higher.

>>105761196
Cheers thanks. Will buy a 990 in Amazon sales and use that for data and this one for OS.

>>105761212
Cheers. Will see if there is a 360 available.

>Maingear x Shroud OC edition 9800X3D prebuild
>Outdated ASRock Nova BIOS
>Manual memory OC juices the fuck out of the DRAM voltages w/o active memory cooling
>SPD Hub Temp above 60°C
>System shits out thousands of errors in OCCT
>$1,000~1,700 premium

Buildzoid should've sold out and made more OC + gaming performance showcase content.
He could've landed some kind of ez-tuning consulting gig over this joke.

>>105761989
ok now explain what the fuck you're even talking about

>>105762014
A system builder partnered with Shroud (retired pro Counter Strike player) to sell a prebuilt PC with some manually overclocked settings.
The overclocked memory is running too hot, the memory is being fed an aggressive amount of voltage, and their OC is shitting out a lot of errors.

>>105761967
A 240mm radiator is only useful for lesser processors being crammed into a small case or for aesthetic reasons. Liquids handle cooling in tight cases a bit better than air coolers. The standard is 360 for anything on the level of a 9800x3d or higher. 280s use twin 140mm fans instead and are typically as good as 360s. The only genuinely useless AIO type is a 120.

>>105761989
>Outdated ASRock Nova BIOS
I skimmed through that video. God damn they really made this prebuilt for laffs.

>>105761989
1.65v VDD and (no scaling past 1.35v) 1.55v VDDQ all on passive cooling?
Dayum

>>105760985
cope and seethe. If you didn't play cyberpunk with path tracing you didn't actually beat it.
>>105760810
>Sets Nvidia exclusive DLSS to Quality in you're path
>Now enjoys next generation visuals at 60fps with a 3090ti or 120+ ai enhanced real frames on a 5070
AMD niggers will always be dealing with a subpar experience.

Why isn't there a DLSS preset with 75% scaling? 1440 * 0.75 = 1080. I don't like having to change Quality manually to that for every game.

>>105762193
Jensen knows best, trust the plan. Make sure you're turning on x4 framegen in every game too

should i buy the 9800x3d off b&h or amazon

>>105762224
I will use 16x framegen in 2 years and I will be happy

Any thoughts on the XG27UCG? I'm upgrading from an ancient 1080p TN so the upgrade will be huge regardless.

I love my 9070.

is there anything wrong with only using my 4k monitor at 1440p instead?

>>105762795
supposedly the pixels dont lineup evenly which hurts the perceived image quality
there should be no usecase where it makes sense to use 1440p on 4k display

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D AM5 8 Cores 16
Threads CPU,
Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer III 360 CPU Cooler,
nVidia GeForce RTX 5080 X3 16GB GDDR7 Graphics Card,
DDR5 64GB Black 32GBx2 6000Mhz RAM,
ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS (AM5) ATX
Motherboard,
Corsair RMx Series RM850x 850W 80+ Gold Full Modular ATX PSU,
2TB Gen4 NVMe SSD,
WD Black 8TB 3.5" HDD,
Antec P20C ARGB, E-ATX,
ATX High Airflow Gaming Case,
Windows 11 Home,

$6,110.00 AUD

Is this good? I don't know much about computers.

>>105762852
whats the usecase

>>105762852
video card sucks.
64gb ram is a lot.
psu is too weak for that fat of a gpu.
why are you buying a hdd in 2020+5?
seems like a huge scam for $6000 but I don't know USD to AUD conversion.

>>105762862
I'd like to get into some Stable Diffusion. I also hoard movies/tv shows and play them via Kodi on my TV while also playing games on my monitor.
I just want shit to be fast.

>>105762875
a 5090 alone costs $6000 aud

>>105762877
Get 9800x3d
the liquid cooler is fine I guess
5080 is overpriced so you may as well get 5070 ti
64gb ram is fine if you also do some other LLM stuff

>>105762875
>video card sucks.
Do you have an alternative that is better? Or less expensive?
>64gb ram is a lot.
The more the better, yeah?
>psu is too weak for that fat of a gpu.
Suggestions for an alternative?
>why are you buying a hdd in 2020+5?
I hoard.
>seems like a huge scam for $6000 but I don't know USD to AUD conversion.
Approximately $3,943.602 USD

>>105762852
Try getting:
Liquid Freezer 3 Pro instead
5070 Ti
16GB x2 will be enough for someone who has to ask for help in the first place
Ask yourself if you really need a hard drive or can make do with a few NVMEs
Case is ok but there are cheaper ones with more freebies (this doesn't come with a rear fan included)
Windows 11 Pro and goto >>>/fwt/ and read the OP

>>105762937
>>105762903
>>105762875
Thanks heaps peeps. This is my current hoarding setup, watching shit is one of the primary uses (while I play games or AI or whatever).

Exactly how much benefit can be gained from ECC compatible UDIMMs on an AMD AM4 system? I have some older myriad hardware, like a 5950X, Asus ROG Dark Hero mobo etc.. that I'm planning for rebuilding my new NAS/home server box. While I know they can't handle RDIMMS, just regular UDIMMs for the RAM, I know that some AMD platforms can enable ECC if your RAM supports it. Exactly how much benefit would I get for something like this?

Normally I'd just grab 32GB or 64GB of DDR4 3600mhz CL16 or so (I'm not sure how stable 4 sticks would be, so I'd try for 2x 32GB first if I can find it, rather than 4x 16GB) and know that will have good compatibility and performance with a 5950X for general NAS/server-y stuff. Its been hard to find ECC UDIMMs in DDR4 anyway, much less in a 64gbdual channel kit. They only seen to go up to 3200mhz at the top and much higher latency which I guess is expected (ie CL22), but the prices are significant and there are very few option - even like.. Crucial PRO is NOT ECC compatible. This is the only stuff I've found - https://www.newegg.com/owc-64gb-ddr4-3200-cas-latency-cl22-memory-black/p/0RN-0031-001B7 - and its $218, when I can pick up more conventional RAM for half that price or less.

I've seen the argument that ECC without being Registered (RDIMM, which of course I can't actually use on existing mobos) isn't a huge benefit, especially for a home server sort of situation and not some business. Where the benefits of ECC seem nice, apparently its not very likely to run into those kind of mistakes prevented by ECC on a home server usage and thus isn't worth going out of your way for ECC? Is this accurate pretty much and as evidenced by the lack of ECC capable UDIMMs? It is nice that AMD X570 mobos (and later chipsets on AM5) support ECC if you have compatible RAM but it doesn't seem to have caught on..at least not back in the AM4 days?

>>105762965
All of those are SATA hard drives? Make sure the case you choose has sufficient bays for all of them, plus the new one you are planning on getting. Be aware, the TUF B650-Plus has only 4 SATA outs. Search for "AM5 motherboards google sheet" to see a convenient sheet list of boards to find one that supports 6 SATA.

>>105762877

For stable diffusion your CPU doesn't matter at all, Vram + Ram is king try to get if you can't get a 5090 get a 4090 or 3090, 24 gigs of vram really makes running flux alot easier. You need a 1k PSU for this level of gpu. 64 gigs of ram is really helpful you will be happy for that.


Everything else doesn't justify the price 2tb nvme, even if the hdd is 8tb who uses hardrive these days? They couldn't give you 4-8tb NVME at this price?

windows 11 is free

Overall this doesn't really fit your use case and is way over priced.

>>105762965
I don't think a B650 will have enough lanes for that many drives?
>>105762921
7800x3d is a gaming cpu and 5080 is a retard card. buy any other 16GB card from nvidia 4000 or 5000, or a 16GB RX 9000 series, or man the fuck up and buy a 4090/5090.
if you want to game while watching shows on your second monitor it's a fine cpu.
that aio is overkill for an 800x3d cpu too, but it's not a big deal.
64GB is a lot. I have to be doing something wrong to even get close to capping 32GB still. I don't know how much system RAM matters for AI.
you need to commit to a gamer build or an AI build I think. decide on what your priority is.

>>105763008
your home NAS is not a warehouse of servers processing data from multiple sources in milliseconds.

>>105763102
stable diffusion can really eat 64 gigs of ram and 24 gigs of vram, while not using the CPU at all

hey gals, if you were to make a new build what process would you use to transfer all your data from your existing one? lets say you have about 4 hard drives totaling about 8tb or so

>>105763023
They are. And I guess I could upgrade the smaller ones to larger ones and save the need for 6 SATA ports.
>>105763049
Cheers for the heads up, I appreciate it. Slightly over my head and I'm not sure the guy I talked to understood what I was saying (or trying to).
>>105763102
No, apparently the B650 does not. Might upgrade the 4tb SATA and consolidate.
Cheers for the info, I'ma need to investigate the suggestions but it sounds like I'm not being offered a great deal here.

>>105763209
ctrl c ctrl v

>>105763102
There are a few that do. Prime AX / II has up to 8. Various MSIs have 6. B800 series chipset boards have less in general and stick to 4 or less but there are still a few with 6.

https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/unix-graphics-feature-deprecation-schedule/60588

Support for Maxwell-, Pascal-, and Volta-based GPUs
The release 580 series will be the last to support GPUs based on the Maxwell, Pascal, and Volta architectures.

RIP IN PEACE MAXWELL, PASCAL & VOLTA.

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D,
Liquid Freezer 3 Pro,
GeForce RTX 5070 Ti,
DDR5 64GB Black 32GBx2 6000Mhz RAM,
Asus PRIME B650M-A AX II Micro-ATX Motherboard,
Corsair RM1000x Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Gold,
2TB Gen4 NVMe SSD,
Antec P20C ARGB, E-ATX, ATX High Airflow Gaming Case,

This is seemingly the build. Genuine thanks to all, you've been extremely helpful.

>>105763299
damn Pascal had a good run

>>105763299
good riddance

>>105763375
>DDR5 64GB Black 32GBx2 6000Mhz RAM,
make sure it's CL30 and not CL36 or CL40

>>105763406
>CL30
Legend. Thanks man.

>>105758042 (OP)
https://www.techpowerup.com/338440/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-super-planned-with-24-gb-of-gddr7-memory

This is gonna be scalped to death isnt it

>>105758054
>5070 Ti Super 24GB
Is this real? Now the 5070 Ti shills are getting dabbed on too?

>>105760360
>walking simulator

>>105763520
Nvidia never misses a chance to dab on poorfags, even those who are supporting them

>>105761989
what is the target audience for this? you make enough to drop $6000 on a prebuilt like it's nothing and you play video games all day but you can't justify spending a week overclocking your system manually

r5 7600x3d
asrock b650m pg lightning
g. skill trident z5 5600 cl30 32gb
sapphire pulse 9060
used 650w psu
should i swap anything? mostly 1080p gaming and work related garbage

>>105763473
Yes.

Are the Nvidia driver issues caused exclusively by the new drivers or are Blackwell GPUs especially shit? I have a new-ish driver on 3060ti and no crashes, but I haven't played much.

>>105764141
>Blackwell GPUs especially shit
The Hardware is really good it's just the drivers that sucked. That being said, drivers are much better now but still flaky for some games. I have no idea how they fucked up so bad. They must have bought into the AI scam they are pushing.

>>105764029
Make the ram 6000 cl30

9070 XT or 7900 XTX for a card to last the next ~4 years?

>>105764298
rtx 5090

>>105764315
That's so far outside my budget it's not even funny.

>>105764298
9070xt

>>105764320
5070 is a decent budget card
you can wait for 18gb model and its prob fine cost perf too

>>105764029
mobo is trash
you don't need and x3d cpu with a tight budget unless all you play is counter strike, spend that money on a better gpu or a non-used (wtf) psu
ram is also trash, get 6000cl30 at least

>>105764298
5060ti if you're gaming on 1080p then save up for a 9090 or whatever

>>105764387
got a mobo recoomendation? im just looking through tech channels for info and it was a recommended budget board. the cpu is "discounted", basically same price and some of similar performance

>>105764387
used PSU is fine if it's a good unit (which it likely isn't tbf), agree with the rest

>>105764029
>>105764204
>>105764387
>>105764425

updated the ram to 6000cl30; gskill trident z5 neo
the psu is a corsair rm650x
also not the matx of the mobo, but the atx, mistyped that, but still if you got a recommendation for one i'd appreciate it

>>105764420
>>105764487
ATX lightning is great, you can keep it.

>>105764298
Isn't 7900xtx discontinued? They're all like $900-1000 compared to getting a $650-750 9070xt.

>>105764545
There's still a couple of stores in Aus that have it in stock, only $100-$150 more than the cheapest 9070 XT.

>>105764567
Well the 7900xtx has worse RT, uses more power, doesn't have FSR4, and you have to deal with the quirks of chiplets instead of monolith. So you're paying more just for the 24gb of vram you may not even use.

>>105764545
it'd be batshit to buy last gen amd gpus with the featureset they have

>>105764593
Fair enough, I'll probably just save my money for AMD's next gen anyway.

>>105764602
Well the 7900xtx actually works on Windows and Linux so that's a pro. Nvidia and 9070xt are still broken on both.

>>105764625
this is sure to be a permanent state that will never improve over time

>>105764636
It's been how many years since 4090/4080 launch and their drivers still have broken MPO, hw acceleration, dxgi crashes, non working Linux compositor unless you jump through so many looptyloops.

7900xtx just works since GFX11 is baked into the kernel.

>>105764657
nvidia seems to be half baked on linux in general. even my rtx 3060 has annoying issues

want to replace my 1tb HDD with a
Seagate BarraCuda Desktop 8TB 5400rpm 256MB
for 3d workfiles + blender files, download folder, longterm storage of pictures and stuff, not really for games. Is it good for that? its so cheap 170$ for 8tb

>>105764625
>Nvidia and 9070xt are still broken on both
i ordered a 9070 XT a few days ago so we'll see if that's true
>>105764675
my GTX 780 also had annoying issues
so good to know absolutely nothing has changed

>>105764758
youd want like 2 x 4tb nvmes for work files to save time managing them
that hdd is fine for long term storage

>>105764758
>download folder
a download folder is a kind of "scratch disk" so you don't want that to be an HDD
it could work with an SSD cache drive with it

Having seconds thoughts about using a 55" tv on a desktop setup
from bottom to top of display with a stand is 77cm or 30.4inches in freedom units
it might be a bad move, maybe I might aswell just take the safe monitor pill after all

>>105763520
The 5070 Ti's GPU isn't getting any upgrade (same core count, just higher factory boost), and the Super will cost more if it does ship with 24GB.

>>105764875
why would you ever think it was a good idea
TVs have absolute dogshit picture quality and have shitload of ghosting

>>105764875
55" "monitors" are for boomers who can't see

>>105764545
>>105764567
7900 XTX owners in this thread will always shill their card because they spent the most money on an underwhelming chip architecture that only benefitted AMD's margins.

Like this guy.
>>105764625
>>105764657
He pretends to know what he's talking about but refuses to accept things like MPO is caused by Microsoft, not NVIDIA.

>mfw can buy a 77" LG B4 for 1699 bux converted after discounts right now too
not the best pq but that is alot of screen for cheaps, too bad I can't consoom anything

>>105764885
>why would you ever think it was a good idea
>TVs have absolute dogshit picture quality and have shitload of ghosting
TVs have the best HDR available with 2000nits in small windows and 400-500 nits full screen SDR OLED images
as far as the ghosting goes, TVs now have 165hz, aside from going up to 240hz or more on monitors that have less blurring, yes, they are worse, TVs used to have strobing like features like on the LG CX that could give you 120hz strobing to give you 300hz motion clarity, but they removed the feature too

>>105764891
you are right might aswell take the 77" pill at this point

>>105764885
also, you might be thinking of non oled tvs, which obviously I would never buy a lcd based tv for gaymen, based on va or some shit, that would indeed be horrible, OLED however made TVs viable for large screen gaymen
which is why I would consider it
the problem comes into shrinking down sizes, the smaller you go the worse brightness and pq you get since they can't shrink it
also there is no sub 55" QDOLED Tv variant either

>>105764978
just buy a 500hz qd oled 1440p instead

hub Steve recently shared on a Q/A vid he uses an i9-13900Ks and a 4090 in his personal rig XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnryXIwieqI&t=7215s

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL

>>105765067
Wrong

The NVIDIA cheque cleared
>mentions how DOOM has always pushed the envelope and how if games run bad now they will be better for the future
>Mentions DOOM 1/2/3 and the TDA ignores DOOM 2016 and Eternal because those games are optimized and run well on all hardware

>>105765076
https://youtu.be/4OjwFm_alf8?t=2618

Timestamp for when he says it just for (you)

anyone upgraded from a 5900x to a 9800x3d?

i'm running dota at like 20% cpu and 50% gpu utilization, i get dips below 90fps in big team fights, i think i may be limited by my 5900x cpu.

worth the upgrade to 9800x3d?

>>105765063
that is the direct opposite use case but not out of the question if I wanna hzmaxx
however you sacrifice ppi and res
not sure if hz is worth more over twice the ppi
also one more problem, they are not out yet
we will see

>>105765105
>Digital Boomery
>Thumbs down dislike
kek
they have been deepthroating nvidia for a min tho have they not
literally everything paid for forever

>>105765067
literally who the fuck cares?
that rig is also already topped out in terms of specs regardless
only upgrade is a 5090

>>105765130
zen3 has massive dips in cpu limited scenarios
never was a good as people shilled
even am4 x3d is a big bump
>worth the upgrade to 9800x3d?
if you run cpu limited games then yes?

>>105765105
Except Doom: The Dark Ages generally runs well on Radeon cards, probably because id Software has done a lot of optimizations to make this game run @ 60FPS on the Series S.

>>105762182
Shut the fuck up about cybershit that game was mid as fuck the devs lied and you are faggot cope and seethe

>>105765174
>literally who the fuck cares?
more about the fact he spergs AMD all the time in both CPU and GPU yet uses neither

>>105765197
that's just the techtuber switcharoo
nobody uses amd
they might use tricks to fool goyim from time to time like "I put amd in my system and THIS happened" or "I'm switching to full AMD!"
2 weeks later "I switched back and here is WHY"
repeat this process every year

>>105765130
What's your video card?

>>105765197
Steve said a while ago that he doesn't care about the hardware brand when he's picking parts for his PC.
He said he's using a 4090 because it's the best video card (at the time).
The i9, I'm guessing he uses the PC for video editing as well (Quick Sync).

>>105765265
>nobody uses amd

funnily enough:

>>105765274
rtx 3080. i dont think i am GPU limited as changing any of the visual settings doesnt gain me any noticeable fps

>>105765288
which techtuber are you

>>105765365
Can you help me think of a channel name

AMGoyim TV sounds good

>>105765288
come home white man

>>105765375
my prev build was a i7 9700k and a 2070 super

(I got an AM4 Motherboard for free)

>>105765349
9800X3D should improve performance in competitive shooters, especially the minimums.
AAA games, the 3080 will probably be the bottleneck.
The test system for the pic used a 4090.

What's a good matx of small atx case that's not glass rgb shit or one of those tiny cases with weird configurations?

>>105764487
RM/RMx is good, was expecting it to be a thermaltake smart/tr2 or a masterwatt lite or whatever

>>105765288
>MSI CPU-Z
>ROG GPU-Z
>PowerColor card
kino

>>105765408
How small does it have to be? Pop Air (solid side panel) and Meshify 2/Compact could be considered.
https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/pop/pop-air/black-solid/
https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/meshify/meshify-2/black-solid/

Lian Li A3 is a pretty spacious mATX case, but maybe you'd consider the PSU to be in a weird config.
https://lian-li.com/product/a3-matx/

>>105765494
I use the themed ones mainly just bc they are dark lmao

>>105763830
It's signed by the famous gamer shroud.

I have a question. My EVGA power supply broke. I replaced it and it broke again, so I have to buy a new one. Which one do you recommend?
Although it also burned my three drives, lmao.
I have a 1070ti
with an R7 5700x.

Retarded ass question, but how do I make sure EXPO is off?

I have a 6000MHZ RAM, turned off Expo in Bios but wanna make sure it's actually off (the game i'm playing works weird with expo leading to crashes, it's modded Skyrim)

Pic related is from hwinfo

>>105765648
What does cpu-z show in the SPD tab?

>>105765648
>the game i'm playing works weird with expo
that's not how it works
but EXPO is off, you are running DDR5-4800

>>105765644
Corsair RMx is a safe recommendation with a 10 year warranty.
RMe is the price-cut variant with less premium components and they may run louder (7 year warranty).
There's a PSU tier list in >>105758054 if that helps.

fucked up my ryzen 3 series cpu, B channels stopped working with it, bought new one and updated bios to support it, B channels don't work still, ram sticks are fine, tried all of them one by one on A channels
halp

>>105765692
what made you think that you killed channel B?

>>105765689
ty
Another question: what is better, a UPS or a voltage regulator?

>>105765689
can also vouch for this, have a rmx 850, and you can even use their 12vhpwr cable that runs to 2 pcie inputs, has worked fine for months: nice option if you dont want to use the squid adapter

>>105765701
*rm850x

also it's the 2019 version or whatever and makes no noise, cant complain desu

>>105765696
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1gpaoeb/will_my_cpu_still_work_if_it_has_a_single_broken/
exactly same pin broke off from my cpu as in that thread
>If I am reading the AM4 Pinout Diagram correctly, that is "MB_DATA[26]"
>Basically the Memory Channel B is broken and you will lose that memory channel completely iirc, I am unsure if it would even boot with your RAM if its put in the B channel.
>It should still work if you use 2 sticks of RAM and connect them in "Channel A"
tho with new cpu in without broken pins, B channels are still not working

>>105765716
Is the broken pin stuck in the CPU socket?
Sounds like you need to buy a new board.

>>105765716
just stuff the broken pin into the hole in the socket and run it
ran an ivy bridge like that for years

>>105765743
nope, every pin were on cpu when i took them off, just bent, tried to fix it, fucked up
new cpu went in just fine
>>105765748
nah

>>105765759
if the pin doesn't work cut a tiny little piece of wire and try that instead

>new cpu went in just fine
>>105765765
why?

Dude... what the fuck does this mean? I keep having this issue where games on fullscreen or windowed fullscreen are capped at 90 fps no matter what, unless I enable vsync. The only game where this isn't a problem is minecraft. So for example right now I'm testing with fortnite, windowed fullscreen and fullscreen both are capped at 90 fps, but as soon as I turn the game into windowed (doesn't cover my entire screen) my fps shoots up to 300.

I've spent the last hour or so with chatgpt going through all of my monitor + driver settings trying to figure out what's going on, and I can't fix shit. I just did a full factory reset of my monitor's internal settings and now chatgpt is telling me to use this CRU tool to check out what's going on.

Does anyone understand this shit? Windows says the refresh rate is 165, AMD says the refresh rate is 165, but now here it's saying 60-90hz. WTF?

My monitor is an asus rog strix XG27AQV and my gpu is a 7800xt.

I have found used RX 6700 XT 12gb 235$ significantly cheaper than rtx 3060 12 gb used 323$
I am going to use it with ryzen 7500f 32gb ram mainly as a home workstation in arch linux, but I am scared if I really need Cuda cores for modern computing and shit projects? Should I go with amd?
I am a third worlder for comparison

>>105765890
Just to add to this, I've tried:
>disabling elmb / adaptive sync / overdrive on my monitor
>freesync / chill / enhanced sync / relive in the amd control panel
I'm starting to think this is some bullshit with windows. I can't imagine what else it could be.

>>105765671
>>105765683

>>105765671
whoops you asked for spd

>>105765905
>I really need Cuda cores

Get the nvidia.

NPCvidia fans btfo

Should be a good upgrade from my 5700 which I bought before the gpu price spike, great card but getting a bit old now.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/mecha-break-dlss-4-multi-frame-gen-geforce-game-ready-driver/

UPDATE NOW

>>105765959
Your first screenshot shows your system has XMP/EXPO disabled.
It's running at JEDEC's 4800MT/s specs.

>>105765890
>>105765913
Unplug and reconnect the display cable on both ends, and use DisplayPort for the maximum refresh rate.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/rog-strix-xg27aq#test_10393

>>105765970
I hope that's canadian

>>105765970
>1245 bucks for 9070xt
LMAO

>>105765970
PowerColor makes nice coolers, but let's hope you didn't get a poorly inspected GPU.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/faulty-chip-surface-ex-works-on-a-radeon-rx-9070xt-extreme-hotspot-temperatures-and-research-into-the-causes-of-pitting/
If the GPU hotspot temp is rather high (past 100°C), you have a dud.

>>105765648
>>105765959
>>105765965
>2400mhz (4800MT/s)
>40-40-40-77
Your ram is definitely running without Expo enabled

>>105765970
>$1249
Let's hope that's a CAD, even that it is still grossly overpriced for 9070xt.

>>105766077
>>105766080
>>105766154
its AUD

>>105764758
NO.
Barracudas are their worst crappiest drives
If you need a work/scratch disk buy a cheapo sata SSD or nvme
For long term storage of stuff you won't be accessing a lot buy an external and plug it in when you need it or buy a NAS/Enterprise tier drive

>>105765970
>hellhound
nice, congrats
I hope you score one with faster hynix vram instead of the crap samsung one

>>105765112
how can he be such a diehard amdrone and still use intel/nvidia
always the same story with these influencers

I just installed my new GPU, and now my CPU is constantly at 46 degrees, and my GPU is at 51. I'm not even doing anything.

we're in the vivimari timeline

>>105764758
I have lost every single Seagate drive I have owned over the last 30 years within 1-3 years of buying it. I haven't lost a WD drive since the EIDE days many of which have been spinning for 12+ years straight.

>>105766258
Those temps are fine if your ambient temp relatively high and if you've got a compact PC case.

>>105766386
oh, yeah, I've got both

I can't believe how few fans look like complete garbage from the rear.
It's like they expect you to only do one way for all fans in the case.

>>105766395
Lian Li and Corsair sell reverse fans.

>>105766425
Phanteks too.
It's just so bizarre reverse fans are so rare. Or just not having the entire fucking motor exposed, ugly ass sticker and cables on 99% of all fans.
Meanwhile the front is all pimped up.

>>105764916
>He uses the 27" MSI OLED review sample as a verticle monitor.
I kneel.

>>105760318
thats really weird to hear, doesnt your gpu have multiple DP slots? swap them around and see? its probably some sort of windows setting. But you're really not supposed to use your mobos DP/HDMI slots for anything, because im pretty sure the GPU can't run through that and you're just using your cpus internal gpu?

>>105765970
>>105766077
>>105766176
>using the $ interchangeably
good morning I hate canadians and australians so much it's unreal
love from the European union

>>105766527
wonder if he got to keep the two more ones he got sent for free
he always was a tvmaxxer
literally swimming in free MSI gear

new amd drivers are bogus
so are nvidia
intel isnt any better

whats happening to IHVs?

do you guys feel anxious or nervous when you do a big purchase? I just bought a CPU and I feel so uneasy to spending so much money, what if the seller doesn't give me my CPU? buying shit from third party websites is scary even if there are good reviews

>>105767636
there is nothing wrong with AMD on linux

>>105767649
>4500 CAD after tax
YES, I miss the days of 1500 PCs (10 fucking years ago)

hey gals, if you were to make a new build what process would you use to transfer all your data from your existing one? lets say you have about 4 hard drives totaling about 8tb or so

>>105767649
no, I have a credit card
also everything is a joke after a mortgage

>>105767636
NVIDIA probably rushed the RTX 50 launch to meet their internal deadlines/goals.
Intel is still learning how to design a performant dGPU & display driver.
AMD, their drivers weren't as bad but they've been slow with updates.

>>105767649
If you did enough research on the seller & website, you should be okay.

>>105767649
anon are you underage
get a job

>>105758042 (OP)
how trust worthy are display ninja reviews and is it worth using their icc profiles?

>>105767949
just a late 20s NEET

>>105767649
There are some part or components you are fine buying from rando people or sites.

There are others where you need buy that shit in person if you don't want to waste your money and/or get scammed.
I will never buy a PC case online ever again after receiving not one, but two damaged cases from Newegg. You also don't quite grasp how large or small a case is until you see it in person.
Assuming the price is right, I have no problems buying CPU, RAM, or even a GPU online, assuming there are at least SOME buyer's protection.

>>105767793
Gaming is an after thought now for Nvidia.

They're all about that AI now...

Buying second hand components in USA e-bay, shipping them with international cargo companies to my thid world country, paying bunch of transpost fees and such are about 40% cheaper than the local component market.
I did not pay any taxes even. These scumbag muslim traders have 40% margin.

>>105767956
how late?

>>105767981
27? that's young, right?

>>105767978
That's what AMD is also prioritizing with UDNA (combining Radeon with enterprise designs).
They're all chasing the bigger money pot.
Rumors are saying UDNA will deliver around 20% raster gain vs. 2x AI/RT.

>>105768000
anon, stop buying computer parts and get a job

>>105768012
my shithole has a 10% of unemployment, I even got a college degree and still nothing. time to cope with computer parts.
also my shitty HP slim desktop is dying

>>105768036
Try to find something like a part-time job, gotta show you put in some effort and shit.

So with the way prices ended up, is it finally safe to say that the RX 9000 series is a total dud?
Why can't amd get it right? When was the last time they were actually competitive, whatever they had for Kepler and Maxwell? Where did it all go wrong?

>>105767979
retail is nothing but parasites

>>105768107
it's a dud from the get go since amd is not competing in high end, that is all that matters
you wait 2 years to get the same and worse performance from 2 years before this?
is this something to be excited about?
no, literally no one cares
the only thing is amdjeets jerking off to amd functioning on loonix or some gay shit like that, if that is your only use case then sure you get a new amd gpu

>>105768336
>that is all that matters
the high end actually doesn't matter
what percentage of people are running xx90 cards? less then 1%?

>>105768107
>>105768336
>>105768354
you can tell you guys started PC gaming in 2013

>>105768356
closer to '08 but I guess you're older so therefore your opinion on the current market / gaming meta is more correct

>>105768107
>So with the way prices ended up
You won't see many great-value GPUs being sold now or in the future.
The conditions have changed, especially for AMD. They can make more profitable chiplets.
RX 9000 launch was fine, they're just missing the higher-end chips when the 5080 is being scalped.

>>105768354
steam hardware survey puts the 4090 at about 1%

>>105768356
I started pc gaming in the late 90s, cope harder zoomer fuck

>>105768457
revert that make it the early to mid 90s, you zoomer fuck

Would it be better to get a PCIe adapter for SATA SSDs or for NVMe?
I have two options. Use a PCIe adapter for an NVMe drive and leave my second NVMe slot on the mobo empty (and have the two SATAs at the bottom active), OR put an NVMe drive into the second slot, deactivating the two bottom SATA slots and getting a PCIe SATA adapter to continue using those two drives.
I'm kinda skeptical regarding PCIe NVMe adapters. And yes, I need those two SATA slots. I'd like a second NVMe drive, but I don't want to just ditch 750GB (at the minimum) worth of SATA SSDs.
>>105768429
Skewed by non-gaming PCs and cafes tho.

>>105768336
>>105768429
4090 & 5090 are mostly novelty projects for NVIDIA (bragging rights), their 102/202 tier chips have a more lucrative customer base (workstations & servers) justifying the development & cost of these massive chips.
Radeon GPUs don't have that market demand, and gamers already complain about their cards being sold at $700.

Even if Radeon released a big GPU that performs within 10% of NVIDIA's, people are going to say it needs to be $500 or more cheaper.

>>105768521
>Skewed by non-gaming PCs
Then why the fuck do these PCs have Steam installed?

who needs airflow when you have thermal pads and an aluminum case

>>105762965
If you're willing to spend this much on a new build, I would suggest that you invest in a 4 or even 8-bay NAS setup (with some kind of redundancy) at some point to alleviate the need for your desktop to hold so many drives. Then you can gradually fill up your NAS with enterprise drives from server part deals or similar as you need.

the 5080 and 5090 are dick measuring cards for people with more money then brains

>>105768611
Because people still play games with crappy laptops? A shitty $250 or even $400-500 laptop isn't meant for playing video games, especially not current ones. People who play very light games with crappy/old hardware skew the numbers, same how internet cafes skew numbers too, as the same PC could potentially count hundreds if not thousands of times towards the survey. Most gaming cafes use mid-range GPUs, but that can very a lot too, depending on if it's a country like China/Japan or some SEA shithole where you're getting RX 580s and 1060s from a decade ago. Point being is you can't really trust Steam's numbers. At most you could trust numbers found on here or on internet forums dedicated to gaming. Those forums would weed out most cafe and $250 laptop owners and for the most part just be people who actually have a PC meant for playing games.

>>105768770
vary.....
But yeah. I believe high-end ownership, x80 ti and x90 is probably more like 5-10%. Especially since the longer someone sticks with PC gaming the higher the chance is they're going to go up the component tiers with each new upgrade.

>>105768521
I used an NVMe PCIe adapter for years, worked fine

>>105768770
Those laptop iGPU don't skew the DX12 data as badly as you think they do.

Start a new thread basterd bitches.

rtx 3060 12gb or rx 6700 xt 12 gb?
buying for scientific computing and vidya gaming, are cudas overrated?

>>105768880
for scientific computing cuda is required
get the Nvidia

The new Phanteks mATX looks nice (XT M3).
https://phanteks.com/product/xt-m3-black/

>>105768848
Got any recommendations? Do I need to watch out for x4 vs x8 and how many slots it has? It's kinda confusing. I just want to be able to at least use one more m.2 via the adapter and at least try to stick close to the speed cap.

Is OpenHardwareMonitor / LibreHardwareMonitor
trustworthy when reading CMOS battery voltage?

How long do your CMOS batteries typically last?

Thanks in advance, PC building smart guys

>>105768856
Mhm, but the point is it's still skewed. Last time I've checked iGPUs made up like 15-20% of all graphics cards in the survey. 20% isn't nothing, same how you really can't count an aging system, to determine how many people actually buy x80 ti/90 cards. I had a 1060 6GB and an old-ass 2013 i7 equivalent till 2 months ago. Should my stats count towards determining how many people buy the 5080 and 5090? Obviously not. I hadn't purchased anything in 7 years.

>>105769041
when you turn on you're computer and bios is reset - it is time to change battery

>>105769012
anything like this will work
https://www.amazon.com/GLOTRENDS-Adapter-Aluminum-Heatsink-PA09_HS/dp/B07FN3YZ8P
you will need to put it in a 16x slot (unless you have a weird board with a 4x on it)
something like this WONT WORK
https://www.amazon.com/Controller-Expansion-4%C3%9732Gbps-Mounting-Accessories/dp/B0BDGLC8NP
unless you have a motherboard that supports lane splitting (you don't)

>>105769069
Ah. Yeah I have a second x16 slot. I have the MSI Z490 A Pro. Cheers

>>105768896
>no solid or vented side panel
alas, it cannot be considered good

>>105769069
How do I know if I have lane splitting?

>>105769153
you don't have it, only high end servers support it

permission to ball out with a750 for $150?
upgrading from gtx 970

>>105769064
That happened in one computer, but not since. Still measures >3v

>>105769196
it's pointless to measure it or to actively monitor it - in most cases you will replace the board before battery dies. and if it dies - it costs pennies to get new one

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>>105769167
thanks

>>105769185
TechPowerUp says it nearly doubles the performance of your 970.
You might have better legacy game compatibility with a RX 6600 if you can find one near that price.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-970.c2620
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sparkle-arc-a750-titan-oc/

>>105769300
What does Intel's poor legacy support stem from? DX8 games? I wonder if using something like dgvoodoo fixes this issue.

>>105769300
i really only do opengl and latest directx stuff
rx 6600 doesnt have av1 encoding which sucks becuase i obs stuff often

only thing im worried about is power draw

do you think the a750 can handle very light opengl voxel game in 4k and record it at same time?

>>105769410
>do you think the a750 can handle very light opengl voxel game in 4k and record it at same time?
I have no idea, gl :|

>>105769453
i salute you, going for the gamble

I am doing a gig of building a PC that can house a RTX pro 6000 blackwell 96 GB workstation edition for some local LLM, but needs to also work for dual RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell workstation editions if the client wants to expand in the future.

What hardware other than the GPU's do you recommend? I have about 3k-5k budget for non-GPU hardware. So far, I am considering an Asus X670E Hero, AMD 9950X, arctic liquid freezer iii 420, G.Skill DDR5 Trident Z5 RGB 4x16GB 6000, Cooler Master M2000 Platinum, fractal case.

>>105769658
Don't forget the SSDs.
Check out the ASUS ProArt PA602 case, it might be more spacious for those video cards.
https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/cases/proart/proart-pa602/

>>105769658
Samsung has a new SSD that's super fast. I think the "Samsung 9100 PRO PCIe 5.0"? Talked about it with a friend a while ago.

>>105769732

I was looking at the fractacl define 7 xl. https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/define-7-xl/black-tg-dark-tint/

SSD's, good point. NVMe, of course.

>>105769781

Thanks for the tip.

>>105769658
>G.Skill DDR5 Trident Z5 RGB 4x16GB 6000
uh you can run 2 dimms for that

>>105768760
if you dick measure with a 3k gpu you are insanely poor

>>105768590
how is this my problem? compete or don't compete
I don't wanna hear excuses
make a gpu, Lisa

>>105769658

Ah fuck gaming motherboards dont have nvlink these days... and i dont really have the budget for a WRX90 (AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7970X) or W790 (Intel Xeon W-3400) board.

Any suggestions?

>>105769966
You might want to check the spec sheets, I don't believe the RTX pro 6000 blackwell nor its server edition supports NVLink.
https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/design-visualization/quadro-product-literature/workstation-datasheet-blackwell-rtx-pro6000-x-nvidia-us-3519208-web.pdf

They stopped that after RTX 30/Ampere.
L40S mentioned in the pic is last-gen's equivalent to the 6000 Blackwell Server card.

>>105765507
Doesn't have to be super small but I'd probably use an matx mobo and don't want a ton of empty space in the case for no reason