AI is inevitable. AI is already replacing the media you consume. AI is subsuming jobs you can no longer apply for. AI is going to solve scarcity. AI will bring about utopia.
Only that our systems that be are not ready for it. Most cunts don't have nearly enough protections for people who will likely not be needed thanks to corporate obsession with layoffs to appease shareholders, and AI will 100% enable that behavior.
I guess I also think that corpo developed AI should be mandated open source by law, that way you can't have tards like Altman making empty promises all the time to grift more money, and mislead idiots.
>>105762470 (OP)I enjoy AI and messing around with it locally, even bought a second GPU for it
But one problem anti-AI people have that I think is legitimate, is that it's replacing creative work rather than drudgery
They wanted a robot to wash the dishes, not to draw stuff
They also feel threatened because it's good at doing the kind of work that people at fake middle class office jobs do, though I am less sympathetic to them about that part. But their complaint about it not doing the real drudge tasks is legitimate
It's great for masturbation, kinda crappy for everything else.
Various industries dependent on AI "workers" that are good 90% of the time, or even 99%, can and will lead to disaster. Do you want to drive a car with an engine that explodes 0.1% of the time?
>>105762572>it's replacing creative work rather than drudgeryYeah, that part sucks. It's even coming for 3D modeling, but only the part that is actually enjoyable, creative and even relaxing: sculpting. All the shitty grunt work will remain human exclusive.
>>105762470 (OP)Because it's boring slop.
Same way you wouldn't like a shirt made by brown thirdies.
The problem with AI is that it empowers talentless morons. They lack taste and originality. They generate thousands of ghilbi images, half baked web apps and act as if they created something of value. It also doesn't help that all models are sycophants that feed into their delusions of grandeur.
>>105762470 (OP)my issue with AI is that it's a productivity tool used by our society to employ less people and make them work just as hard as before if not more. we could be using this to make our lives easier and that's not where this is going
>>105762470 (OP)Is that the Weeknd on the left?
>>105762470 (OP)biggest issue is that it's trash. hollywood taught everyone it'd be amazing, but mutt capitalists have quickly sucked the lifeblood out of it. now we wait for china's capitalists to put 2 (AI) and 2 (robots, manufacturing, industry) together for our cyberpunk future, and killing the economic world order in the process rendering every fatmerican (and servile yuropoors) desitute.
>>105762470 (OP)I'll reserve my criticism for when I see actual AI.
>>105762674AI has existed for over 40 years. Chess engines and counterstrike bots are AI.
>What's wrong with AI
I fear stagnation and decay. AI isn't really good at doing novel things. It does task that are predefined extremely well. The problem is it takes the money out of certain fields and in doing so removes the human talent from that field. If no one is going into a specific field that field will stagnate. Then once everyone who was in that field die the field will regress. This will mean we will forever be stuck at the AI level of mastery. They already are showing that AI is making its most prolific users dumber. We don't need to expand this phenomenon to the entire population.
>>105762470 (OP)yes... YES...
*gets on my knees*
AI is... here!!!
*fist pumps*
oh my god... oh my GOD... it's finally, FINALLY here...!
*weeps*
yes lord... i KNEEL!
>>105762734this is fundamentally different than LLMs
>>105762470 (OP)The problem is that the people are retarded. So instead of using it good it will be a clusterfuck till ai takes over and makes the holocaust real.
i don't have a problem with LLMs (what it actually is), i have a problem with normalfaggots calling it just AI, the boomer bossmen who thinks it can just replace their workers, and everyone praising what it makes like it's from the hand of god and it should be in every fucking feed
>>105762470 (OP)95% of discourse on AI is complete nonsense by people who don't know what they're talking about. if you don't use it in *your* job, don't pretend to have original opinions on how it will replace everyone's jobs.
>>105762572imo it is doing the drudgery. yeah theres this phase where everyone is convinced it can do everything but I use this stuff a lot at my job and it cannot perform creative tasks to professional standards and it cannot maintain attention across large projects. im a software engineer, and it can't write my code. it *can* write 90% of the letters for my unit tests. i fix a few issues, check its asserting the correct things and move on. believe me ive tried to make it scale
Any oldfag /g/entooman should have 1 major concern with AI that affects both the technological and sociological elements people use bring up
>That performant AI / neural / LLM etc.. models and training data will be proprietary, hosted by megacorps that and under their total control as "trade secrets". They will censor and restrict models, while making deal with IP cartels for training data 'licenses' that nobody else can hope to afford, ensuring that there can't be decent alternatives, as they will be illegal thanks to useful idiot artfags and others convinced of stealing or slop or whatever the fuck other nonsense buzzword Thus, the majority of benefit of AI will be enjoyed by a handful of megacorps at the top, and those with many resources who pay megacorps for access in order to replace human workers and the like.
This is how it goes for any technological advance so long as you have greedy fucktards who find ways to control and monetize the tech, where the common good suffers. Anyone remember how piracy was (and in some ways, still is though with less focus) a number one enemy for content cartels like those we called
>MAFIAA
They fought hard against streaming and downloads etc until they could monetize and control them and find it makes them MORE money. They push old monetization and requirements onto new tech, rather than evolving alongside it and figuring maybe we need new IP laws in light of being able to seamlessly copy anything digital; but no, they look for more restriction more DRM for their benefit. Hell, this is literally the
>You wouldn't download a car
shit where if we had Star Trek replicators they wouldn't adjust society so that all would benefit, they'd control and limit use for them exclusively.
This will come to AI unless we do something - the solution is pushing for performant FOSS, self host models and training data, fair use, to allow all to benefit, putting the public good above profit for a few.
>>105762470 (OP)>AI is going to solve scarcityCompared to current standards, yes. But the laws of physics are still a hard limit. Resources can become extremely cheap but not arbitrarily so, and never truly free unless the second law of thermodynamics is invalidated.
Therefore, people who produce no value whatsoever (most or possibly even all people in your 'post-scarcity' world) have no reason to be allowed to live. Regardless of how pro-human it society starts due to successful alignment techniques, natural selection pressures would favor whatever subgroups shed their useless eaters sooner.
>>105762470 (OP)I wouldn't mind AI replacing jobs in the field I'm trying to get into if there was UBI or if I could easily get into another field, but since neither of that will be the case, I have to oppose it for my own survival.
What AIfags don't realize is that the people funding these technologies don't have your best interests in mind. They're not pushing AI so we can all live in a utopia where no one has to work. They want to replace your very existence. Your only purpose for the elites was to do their menial work but beyond that they have always despised you. Once you no longer have any purpose, they will dispose of you because then you're just a "useless eater".
>>105762470 (OP)>ai complainersthat will pass, because we are entering a future where your ai waifu will generate everything for you, and you will love it
>>105762470 (OP)>AI will bring about utopia.Not in the immediate future. One thing that was found to be true and worrying is that it's making people dumber. Also I think we have yet to see the worst of it's problems. Clnow currently there's a tech literacy gap + censorship preventing mass adoption every where but once that's solved I imagine the internet will take a nose dive in quality and communities will become walled gardens
>>105762572>They wanted a robot to wash the dishes,I hear they have robots that'll wash your car, too.
>>105762819This is one the few accurate takes on /g/ regarding AI. LLMs are pretty good at doing grunt work, actually to a better standard than low level white collar drones are doing it now.
>>105762470 (OP)the first instance was based on the assumption that you'd have UBI while the AI worked for you and allowed you to do whatever.
The current situation is a threat of simply losing your job without any realistic income alternative for the future
>>105763074nta but even good dishwashers kind of suck in that you have to rinse stuff, be careful about not placing plates too close together so water can get into the gaps, etc
they're still too janky a technology to be worthy of the term 'robot' or 'automated' imo. dishwashers are like a non-motorised wheelchair for washing dishes, in the sense that you have to do a lot of the work yourself