How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archieve, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35
• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) - $8
• Samsung dongle - $12
• JCally JM20 Pro (8-Band PEQ) - $24
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>105745124

pos

FOR ME


ITS THE ER 2 SE.

Thank YOU

These are way too comfortable. I've been wearing them for almost six hours by now.

>>105766117
For me, it's the ER2XR. SE is awesome too, though. Not that much of a difference.

>>105766127
Let's fucking go, etybros unite.

Simply all I need and nothing more.

wow great start to the thread

>>105766182
t. seething chinkoid

my aviot te-v1r just arrived. It sounds like shit
there’s literally no bass, and the hi-hats make my ears bleed every time they hit
ear rapist/10

>>105766307
>aviot te-v1r
this looks like garbage, why would you every buy this pos

>>105766336
nvm I opened the site and it had anime girls, explains why the nu redditard would buy them

I've been using my Salnotes Dioko for a couple months now.
I love the hell out of them.
They're quite lean, pretty analytical and cold.
Cymbals are so clear omg
Sub bass is boosted but it doesn't bleed into the mids.
They remind me of my yamaha hs5 studio monitors that I had to leave behind when I moved.
I also own a pair of Hexa, Hola, Zero, Zero:Two, Starfield, Kz pr2.
I don't think I'm gonna try anything else for a while

Its here!

>>105766470
>I don't think I'm gonna try anything else for a while
Lmao!

>>105766307
I would tell you that maybe this is a sign to stop giving in to vtranny marketing. but we both know you would buy literal shit in in a box if it had the png of the roastie's avatar. do better anon.

>>105766643
nice, congrats!

>>105766122
how's the sound?

>>105766708
I was using it only for calls and videos today so far, so can't say how good or bad music sounds. Voices are not distorted and overall clear, which is more than I would expect from a $2 set.

>>105766163
you're not wrong
at first people were reluctant to the idea of having anything inside their ear canals at all, that's why flatheads were still more popular for long years after canal earphones showed up on the market, but later people got used to have their ears sealed - or rather maybe evolved to it and became one step closer to becoming perfect species
time for the next step - getting used to Etymotics and their superior deep fit, so let's go bros, let's begin operation codename Ear Canal Burn-In

>>105766470
sorry to hear you have high frequency hearing loss and terrible taste

>>105766737
Honestly ety dual flange fit is perfect for me. Took a bit of time to get used to it but now it's perfect. And I came from the TGXear Serratus..

ddHifi Surface (Moondrop collab, aka E14D) Impressions
>Build
Attractive lightweight shells with nozzle lip. On the smaller side of average for 1+4. Adequate venting, no driver flex. Easy to get immediate comfortable fit with included Kiwi Ears Flex tips. Cable is surprisingly soft, light, and well-behaved versus comparable thick cables.
>Specs
Not overly sensitive, scales well with power and volume (default 4.4mm cable is not unwarranted). Channel balance is good (I can graph, but don't feel like it at the moment).
>Bass
Above average quantity and quality. Nice sub rumble along with weighty punch. There is bloat beyond neutral, and it takes a moment to acclimate. Good texture and distinction between low frequencies.
>Mids
Initially perceived vocals as cramped and intimate because of low-end emphasis. Once acclimated, characteristics of strong layering, accurate imaging, and natural timbre remain. Moondrop specializes in mids, and they deliver despite the bloat.
>Treble
Down tilted safe treble. Avoids sharpness and eschews large peaks. Bass and upper mids are dominant at all volumes. Detail retrieval is adequate, but softened. Layering and imaging remain strong as in the mids.

>Pros
Vocals and technicalities plus bass. Moondrop rarely does bigger bass.
Bespoke-feel build, cable, and aesthetics.
On average should not present problems with fit. Good comfort and stability.
>Cons
Thicker mid bass lift results in some bloat.
Subdued treble. Will not be airy and energetic, but rather grounded and silken.

>>105766830
BA pos, avoid

>>105766345
>>105766685
>implying that the /g/ shilled Truthear and Moondrop aren't anime girl promoted brands

>>105766848
Salty troon, ignore

>>105766868
random no name anime girls are not the same as vtrannies you disingenuous faggot

>>105766643
Graphs

>>105767008
such a beautiful pure 1dd curve...

>>105767008
pretty mediocre channel matching ngl

>>105766879
>implying your shiity iem is worth a damn
hahaha

>>105767037
Yeah I was expecting better. Not a problem for me because I have a coupler and per-channel PEQ on all my devices (Poweramp/APO/EasyEffects). 1DD + EQ more like 1DD + coupler + per-channel PEQ.

>>105767008
Please do more attempts, and even switch Left and Right side. If they actually have this channel matching its gonna be so embarassing for foxzo

>>105767077
Kill yourself faggot. He posted impressions which will always be more valuable than whatever you write in some reentry

I stand with EQzos.

>>105766830
>>105767176
i speak for EVERYONE when i say that we only care about TRANSJIM FORCE impressions
chop chop hoardzo, we DEMAND the impressions NOW

>>105767106
sure thing buddy

>>105767176
#IStandWithUkraine

>>105767093
Tried a different cable and tips, seems to have helped slightly.

>>105766830
finally a good post amidst the shitposting

>>105767008
Show what actually matters: the faceplate.

Remember. Listen to your songs, not to your gear. Stop visiting audio equipment foruns and sites (including this general). Stop consuming audio equipment and go support the music artists you like.

Sheeeeeeiiiit. Been using the Artti R6 for awhile now with my laptop for vidya. Finally gave Equalizer APO a try. Even with just a 31 band EQ i’m able to approximate a meta/JM-1 response(without crin’s weird 250hz tuck) and ya! Sounds pretty damn good.
Still not as smooth as my triple flangezo gateymotics but very nice nonetheless. Didn’t even need big adjustments most filters were +/- 2 db max.
So this is the power of EQ…

>>105767390
heh canjam and a concert i'm attending are on the same weekend. checkmate

>>105767393
cheap trash

>>105767408
the r6? No shit sherlock.
Still sounds competent, good even. and thats before EQ.

>>105767432
prolly worse than g10/q1pro

>>105767403
rmb to post impressions

>>105767077
What I was actually implying was that you were late on your hourly dilation and your neovag had closed up, hence why you lash out at other people being satisfied with what they have.

>>105767305
Not great not terrible....

>>105767485
I'm just shitposting bro

>>105767390
>2025
>listening to songs

>>105766830
>scales well with power
There's exactly zero people with working hearing that use this phrase.

https://youtu.be/HyC-mEKUCdY
SEA supports SEA

>>105767675
everybody knows you need to listen at 120 dB to hear all the details in music

>>105766122
flatheads are even comfier with silicone ear hooks

>>105767951
This looks reasonable.

For me, it's Gato

tanchjim force available on hifigo on aliexpress
with discounts and stuff it is now $230

HRTzos, Space Travel 2 looking amazing for us

>>105767647
And I'm not I'm 100% super serious here raaaaah grrr

>>105766051 (OP)
suggest me earplugs for concerts, and why do they cost as much as iems?

>>105768236
I'm thinking about ordering Etymotig ones, because Alpine I have now do block out some of the music completely. Very comfy tho.
Why so expensive? Niche product, filled with anti-techs. Also there's nothing to break, so you can't sell new ones over and over.

>>105768236
i'll prob order some of the cheap copycats from amazon on prime day

>>105768319
nigga, ER20XS is 20bux

>>105766781
how's the isolation compared to triple flanges?

I have to give up IEMs for medical reasons and have decided to give flatheads a go as a last ditch effort; anybody got experience with those? got some chifi one's on the way right now iirc the YDX, faeel iris and some other cheap shit.
I plan on listening to music with em

>>105768732
FH-01 is my recommendation for a good sounding set that's cheap but not as cheapshit as like the $2-10 range of Faael and Vido and such. Cable is also much nicer.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808477221142.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt

>>105768732
which medical reasons

>>105768927
psoriasis, ear canals start to flare up shit's not worth it

>>105768732
RY4S are very pleasant sound wise

I have absolutely no idea what I am doing, which EQ thing do I change to get these to sound less "tinny"?

>>105768997
gotta adjust the presence region to not be so dissonant, you feel me?

>>105768732
Unironically earpods btfo most cheap chink flatpos but they also semi insert into your ear canals. If those don't work for you, just get Vidos.

>>105766122
is this the nicehck ydx? mine are coming in

>>105768920
looks like the vido with a nicer cable, this gotta be a scam

>>105768732
I cannot stress this enough.
ANY impressions of flatheads is useless. The response in your ears will vary more than anyo other transducer type there is. The variation in fit and sound is so wide that any type of review or impression is useless.
You should prioritize how it looks, the build quality, and price.

>>105769094
>>105769044
>>105768979
ty for the help fellas

>>105769065
>looks like the vido
Do you know how many flatheads "look like the vido"?
They all use the same copy of the Sennheiser MX500 shell

>>105769106
yeah, and all are a scam with the same sound as vido

>>105769115
>The shell is what produces the sound, not the driver
Ok retard

>>105769125
>the driver
prove the driver is different

>>105769144
You can just look at aliexpress at all the different drivers and see they're all made to fit MX500 shells but are made of different materials, different ohm, etc.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808880921685.html

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808032305332.html

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804589142086.html

This is supposedly the one Vido uses: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800084758824.html

>>105767648
Saar...

>>105768997
whatever eq program that is, it's insufficient and does not target the appropriate frequencies.
you could start with this
Preamp: 0.0 dB
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 5100 Hz Gain -5.0 dB Q 0.800
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 6000 Hz Gain -6.0 dB Q 2.000
to fix tinny-ness.
i did not include corrections for the bass

>>105766182
>>105766196
>being this butt hurt
You chumps!

Chumpzo is a faggot and we of the trans jims do not claim xer.

>>105767008
>>105767363
Well? Don't tell me you wasted money on a generic faceplate...

>>105769586
>>105769619
>>105769634
good morning

>>105769065
Not YDX, but YD30.

>>105769840
But it's currently 1:34 PM in my area!

>>105769953
Fuck you canuck

>>105769586
xitter pilled??

>>105769953
We share timezone, sista :3

>zero dynamic
Rather unfortunately word placement.

>>105770300
Ba pos avoid?

>>105767951
Got links for these? I'm only getting ones for airpods.

>>105768278
what about alpine tune? those look sexy

Is the EarFun Air Pro 4 really the best at its price range? Looking at online reviews it seems amazing. But, looking at the play store app, the reviews are quite bad.

>>105770300
Still my favorite of the huge glut of 10mm "meta" tuned pos. It has just enough bass for me and I never felt the treble was excessive like the reviews said.

The gate has a similar FR, but the mids are a bit congested. The only thing the Gate does better is bass and wider soundstage.

>>105770345
I get the joke, but just to prevent any confusion this is single DD.

>>105771051
it's twshit. they are all compromised pos with limited life span.

$80 worth of tips, what a fucking rip. They can't keep getting away with it.

>>105771052
>the mids are a bit congested
Hey stranger, im gonna have to stop you right there and ask if you have a source to back up that claim? You see, ''congested'' isnt a quantifiable value within a frequency response, therefore I correct you, its alright, you dont need to apologize, just dont let this happen again ok?

Truthear took a turd on every IEM, confirmed.
New value ROYALTY, mogs every shilled pos until now.
https://youtu.be/vlR48GPwN9M

>>105771387
Aaaaaand nevermind, it's a sidegrade to the Hexa.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AmbvOssbFio

>>105771367
nigga.. youve got the old spiral dots, the new cool kid on the block is the EP-FX12

>>105771403
Wait so is it worse? Seems so.
https://youtu.be/atX6aCEAxgY

>>105771387
>>105771403
>>105771425
>he fell for the reviewer meme

>>105771423
They're barely available anywhere in S size, Amazon only has MS. Only place I could find S is mtmtaudio.

>>105771425
I'm so confused...
https://youtu.be/3cbKlnmORUk

>>105771437
Hope you retards can appreciate how """""informative""""" reviews are.
Stick to graphs and your own listening.

>>105768997
in case you really don't have access to PEQ

>>105771451
The aggregate of all impressions is what counts, youre just room temp iq

If turdear releases a special anime edition of the pure I'll buy it.

I didnt really like the Hexa, would the Pure be better for me?

>>105771485
The hearing ability is not additive bro, they're all deaf.

>>105771492
we don't know what you disliked, we don't know what you liked, we don't know how it will sound in your ears, we don't know how you'll hear it, we don't know your biases and brain damage
so yes, it will. in fact anything will if you believe hard enough

>>105771486
But don't they already have a Waifu?

Warm pos avoid.

>>105771485
So unreliable and noisy data is good as long as you average it?
Good to know.

>>105766051 (OP)
Speaking of this POS.
Been using them for almost a week now. Overall I'd say they sound FINE out of the box but very dark. Cymbals were much quieter than what I'd expect
Compared them to thread's favorite (lol) Q1 Pro via sine swipes. They sounded basically like they graph
<=
Not much difference until 3k (if it's there it's like 1 dB and I was too lazy to actually sit there and sine rape my ears to hear it). Around 4k everything shifted to Q1's side (not surprisingly)
Adding 4 dB treble shelf to wyverns immediately made them sound much better, less muffled and closed in. Added 2 dB bass too. I feel like Wyverns despite almost graphing the same have better bass? I can feel it more and not only just punch. It's weird.
The biggest con for me is their fit. I guess I discovered that my ear canals need that strong nozzle angle Q1s have. I need to put wyverns in at an angle to make them fit. Also I rolled literally ALL my tips and only decent ones were med sancai (still meh), large spring tips (actually decent but with caveats) and dunu s&s I just got (can reiterate what other people said about them - very good seal but comfort is not as good.)

But actually the biggest difference between the two is imaging and soundstage. I started hearing it in wyverns already with music, soundstage felt wider compared to what I've been used to. But it became very obvious when I launched apex. I didn't even play the game I just jumped into a shooting range. It has target bots running left and right for practice. In Q1 you can just hear steps either in right or left ear there's no real sense of where they are. In Wyverns I immediately could tell that bots are walking in front of me. I could hear where they are easily vs q1 where you can't hear position of the steps AT ALL. Funny enough something like EDC Pro also has a better imaging than Q1 Pro but I don't really use them because of the fit.

>>105771492
yes, they made it even more boring

>>105771508
He wants the waifu on the iem.

>>105771520
>>105771506
I mean it sounded too bassy if thats even a valid criticism, but if the pure is more balanced or vibrant then I might consider buying it. there any reason for the screws on the sides of the IEMS? I feel like it should be for custom covers or some shit or to get to the internals easier

>>105771517 (me)
So yeah if there are any EQ enthusiasts who can tell me how to EQ soundstage into Q1 Pro feel free to (EQ manipulations I tried did nothing to imaging or soundstage)
Forgot to add - wyverns are very nice looking pos. Saw some concerns from people that they'll only look good on photos but no they look great irl too. (ai generated anime dragon waifu was pretty meh and low quality lol)

>>105771547
>hexa sounded too bassy
It's completely over for you.
>>105771550
All spatial bullshit is in the 3k range, higher overall treble and especially 5k masks it, might want to boost some 100Hz for the footsteps too. Could also be channel imbalance on the q1 pros.

>>105771547
>I mean it sounded too bassy
pure goes the other way, they cranked up the bass a lot and also reduced treble (less bright)
>>105771550
take the HTL sound localization test if you can, we have to determine the difference in something more precise than music and games
for all of my pos, imaging is the same, i can track everything , some easier than others, but all competent enough

>>105771517
Epz and wyvern are shoutcannons

>>105771599
idk guess I'll buy it and see if I like it, all I have right now in my collection is the EPZ Q! pro's, Wan'er 2 and Tanchjim bunny

>>105771517
a) you are looking at someone else's samples. your units may vary 1-3db in either direction (imagine your q1 pro have 2db less bass, and your wyvern has 2db more, which = relative 4db difference, significant.)
this already confounds any impressions you have in trying to associate what you hear with someone else's graphs.

>>105771685
oh wow didn't even notice that
yeah if you have no measurement of your own units then any EQ you've used in the past isn't accurate enough to alter things like soundstage and techs

>>105771591
>might want to boost some 100Hz for the footsteps too
Boosting midrange only made footsteps louder. It did not change their localization at all.
>All spatial bullshit is in the 3k range
Well that's even weirder because q1 and wyverns remastered are basically the same POS until 3k lol... Like I literally compared their sines by ear. There's almost no difference.

apologies with eq guide, apparently you are needed

>>105771787
Literally explained in the same sentence you quoted.

>>105771599
>take the HTL sound localization test if you can
is there a site for that?
>we have to determine the difference in something more precise than music and games
Trust me there's no mistaking it. In q1 I couldn't hear the position of footsteps at all. In wyverns like I just could tell. It was obvious.
>for all of my pos, imaging is the same, i can track everything , some easier than others, but all competent enough
I wonder what is the difference... Shit's weird. Anatomy probably plays a role. And Wyverns aren't even that comfortable for me lol
>>105771621
Shoutcannons? What do you mean? Black Remastered literally has the quietest treble from shit I have lol. If you are talking about their 3k being boosted I dunno. I have EQ with it toned down but it doesn't really bother me

>>105770173
Yay! :3

>>105771820
https://harmanhowtolisten.blogspot.com/2011/01/welcome-to-how-to-listen.html
there will most likely be compatibility issues but here it is
the most likely explanation is the hrtf used with in game, which is most likely making localization issues worse with the stock tuning of both
>Like I literally compared their sines by ear.
useless, not a proper test in any sense

>>105771685
>you are looking at someone else's samples. your units may vary 1-3db in either direction
I told you I compared them lol... They sound exactly like they graph
>imagine your q1 pro have 2db less bass, and your wyvern has 2db more, which = relative 4db difference, significant
I couldn't hear any difference before 4k. As I said if it's there it was really small.
>this already confounds any impressions you have in trying to associate what you hear with someone else's graphs.
I did it before I looked up any graphs.
>>105771717
I was comparing them without any EQ

>>105771878
you are HEAVILY overestimating your hearing capabilities.
the way you're doing it is not accurate in the slightest, with or without EQ

Anyone here interested in isolation tests? I could run some for some common pos if so, bunny, gate, q1pro, etc.

>>105771904
sure but you should specify the methodology in detail first

>>105771852
>useless, not a proper test in any sense
Maybe but I think you are overselling its uselessness. Human ear is bad at recognizing peaks/dips via sines (still possible btw) but that's not what I did. I was comparing loudness between left and right IEM. I'm not saying it some amazing fucking test sure. But difference after 4k is not subtle and difference before 3k wasn't big. I can easily hear 2dB+ difference.

>>105771928
how are you validating that they are volume matched?

>>105771591
>Could also be channel imbalance on the q1 pros.
I don't hear imbalance on sine swipes for them
even if I did how do I know it's them and not my ears?

>>105771935
At first I wanted to volume match them at 1K and compare from that but I didn't really hear much difference on sine swipes so I didn't feel the need to.
Like what do you think would happen? There's no audible difference. And when several graphs show them evenly matched south of 1k I really don't see any reason to argue about this at all.

>>105771988
the issue is that your localization issue is too vague and has too many variables so we can't really help you out as it is
ideally we would have your own measurements and some reference with HTL so we can remove some variables and hopefully isolate what the problem is

>>105771436
fair, btw what's so good about the neo?

>>105771852
>https://harmanhowtolisten.blogspot.com/2011/01/welcome-to-how-to-listen.html
I actually downloaded how to listen a while ago but was too lazy to do anything with it. Does it actually have a sound localization test? Which task is it?

>>105772026
It fits me the best on the most pos, that's the only reason. In terms of sound its does poorly compared to most other tips since it fucks up the FR.

>>105772084
left/right will pan the music across 180 degrees, all you have to do is rank each
you should be able to complete this to at least level 9 for both iems

>>105772002
>the issue is that your localization issue
Is it really "my" localization issue? Is it even an issue at all?
Or do you actually think I can EQ it into Q1 Pro if I try hard enough?

>>105772173
there is quite literally nothing that would explain why the Q1 Pro has an issue. there is no reason why you wouldn't be able to theoretically EQ the Q1 Pro into something that works
localization is almost entirely subjective and different from individual to individual to anatomy differences, which is why it's so hard to pinpoint its parameters, much less fix it

>>105772185
well at least it'll be an interesting experiment lol

Hello anons; anyone have experience repairing IEM cables? The right side of my 4.4mm cable has some weak joints near the terminal housing. It's not even an old cable, but just a bad unit from the manu. I've thought about resoldering it and seeing what happens, but I'd have to cut into the heat shrink tubing to do so. I've also considered if I may need to cut some length in this process...but I've heard that it's bad to have a L/R with different lengths. Any advice?

STOP BUYING TANCHJIM

Remember. Listen to your songs, not to your gear. Stop visiting audio equipment foruns and sites (including this general). Stop consuming audio equipment, go support the music artists you like and listen to more music.

Remember. Do not listen to your songs, listen to your gear. Keep visiting audio equipment forums and sites (including this general). Keep consuming audio equipment, go to slsk/rutracker find music artists you like and listen to less music and be more productive.

Sistas, hold me...

DEAD hobby

>>105772461
this is not /hpg/, saar.

The Saint. *duels of fate* edition

https://youtu.be/D_2bluVPsb0?si=DkgFQScInymsD97A

>>105772596
How is the transition going troonzo

Found Crinacle's new favorite restaurant

>>105771550
For broad general things you can apply to potentially help. A dip at ~1.5khz pushes the vocal image back, boosting the extention past the ~3khz peak can make vocals and instruments sound more open and airy and adjusting the tilt from ~1khz to ~100hz helps change the impression from open to closed. Dropping from 1khz to 100hz sounds 'open', rising from 1khz to 100hz sounds more 'closed' or in-room. These are your knobs to start with to begin twiddling, they will probably not sound good if you apply them as-is.

Filter 1: ON PK Fc 1400 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 1.410
Filter 2: ON HSC Fc 4000 Hz Gain 3.0 dB Q 0.710
Filter 3: ON LSC Fc 500 Hz Gain -3.0 dB Q 0.710

Next step is hrtf stuff. Very individual but if you must start with a 7-8khz peak, 9-10khz dip and 11-13 kHz peak.
In the headpos world it's known that flattening out the treble peaks and dips in EQ flattens the soundstage.

>>105773239
shut the fuck up

>>105770454
sure https://aliexpress.us/item/1005005291063306.html

>>105773239
>A dip at ~1.5khz pushes the vocal image back,
Cool but wyverns do not have 1.5k dip
> tilt from ~1khz to ~100hz helps change the impression from open to closed.
And their tilt almost the same
Also wyverns have closed impression by default because of very dark treble... and it changes nothing about soundstage and imaging but they do indeed sound more "open" with treble boost. It doesn't really change how I hear footsteps in apex tho.

>>105773239
Resident schizos hate when you speak of soundstage

>>105771550
Literally just lower the treble to the level of wyverns. Them being the same until 4k doesn't mean anything, you're hearing the entire FR, if q1 has more treble then audibly it will have less mids and bass.

>>105773526
Thanks, looks good.

>>105774189
Or just EQ to the fox target(endgame)

>>105774212
wrong target

>>105774189
It was the first thing I tried and it does nothing

>>105774225
Now boost 3k

>>105774189
Just so they're on the same page
Preamp: -2.7 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 5100 Hz Gain -12.0 dB Q 1.000
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 3000 Hz Gain 5.0 dB Q 1.000
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 4000 Hz Gain 7.0 dB Q 2.000

If it still doesn't image like wyverns then there's probably channel imbalance.

>>105771550
Nigga really trying to add soundstage to an iem. Instead of getting an origin or something. On top of it its foxpiss iem, meaning if he realizes its impossible, hell just be met with 'skill issue'.

>>105774234
yeah dude.
I've seen posts about the idea of contrast between eargain peak and treble or whatever in relation to soundstage
I did that and it does NOTHING AT ALL
>>105774311
I'll try more different EQ configurations later

>>105774388
You cant add soundstage to an iem, the only people that consider software enhancement a substitute to soundstage, have never had an iem with good soundstage.

>>105772086
>fucks up the FR
when will people learn that eartips are not only for sealing but also for fine-tuning? if it "fucks up" the FR the way you like, it means they're good and vice versa, if not, you get different tips
and that's a good thing, this way FR of a given pos is not completely set in stone even without EQ

>>105774380
>origin
Shit driver, avoid.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/tanchjim-origin-iem-review.52707/
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/7hz-x-crinacle-zero-2-iem-review.50534/

>>105774475
>I then ran through my reference clips and the experience was jaw dropping at times. Full range sound with detail to die for and dynamics to go with it. I could have listened for hours. Turning off the EQ, pulled things down substantially, taking out the smile factor. Not terrible mind you but equalization took the Origin to proverbial next level.
Your own link . Ruskie buttblasted as fuck today lmao

>>105774485
Dumb frogposter level of reading comprehension.

>>105774494
You dont need reading comprehension to realise Q1 Pro is vastly inferior to Tanchjim Origin

>>105774485
>EQ sounds good
Yeah we know.

>>105774485
lol he's lucky to be just buttblasted instead of actual blasted by ukrainian cruise missiles

>>105774506
Lmao

>>105774503
Foxpiss is trash, keep malding

>>105774500
>You dont need reading comprehension
Dumb frogposter level of existence.

>>105774509
Worse than literal $20 drivers, why the fuck did you buy that pos.

>>105774515
Next thing you know I get your 20$ plastic and its nowhere near as good as origin

>>105774524
Even edc pro btfos origin, this is next level.

>>105774533
Say what you will rusgay, I can and have gotten all your shit tier budget recs. You will never own a good iem.

>>105774541
>buying different pos because he can't EQ
Lmao. See >>105774485 sounds like shit without EQ.

hey rusbum instead of seething and coping in a losing battle how about have another melty and delete every post that pisses you off?

>>105766739
Are there any of my IEMs that you like more than the Dioko?
I hate the internet, I feel like I have to reconsider my taste because of strangers who don't like them

>>105774557
Is this a typical attitude in russia? Not only living in la la land, but trying to enforce your backwater shithole-esque views? You are going against the current here with your cheap plastic of an iem, against mounting evidence: origin is a techs and soundstage monster.

You will never win in ukraine and you will never have good iems

>>105774576
im not sure its him it may just be deafzo cuz he hasnt deleted my posts in a fit of rage

>>105774576
Debunked by measurements. Keep defending your sunk costs tho, extremely entertaining.

>>105774582
He only deletes drone strike posts in solidarity with the now exctinct VDV

>>105766650
>Lmao!
I was joking, I'm curious about the crinear line. The next ones shouldn't be limited editions

When choosing between Shure SRH440A, Sennheiser HD 280 Pro and Audio-Technica ATH-M40X whan should I pick?

>>105774587
>heh debunked
Pathetic

>>105774596
I'd rather pick prostate cancer.

>>105774599
Hearing the inaudible and not hearing the audible, classic audiopedophile.

>>105774612
So when I buy Q1 pro and its a piece of shit, the cope will be:

a)Learn to EQ
b)You are deaf
c)Russia only lost 100k men
?

>>105774596
ATH-M40X is pretty comfy. but then again, I haven't tried other two

>>105774623
Trying to preemptively cope like that doesn't work when it's already known you're deaf.

>>105774623
buy wyverns remastered too I want to hear more comparisons.
shit's dirt cheap on ali right now

>>105774635
I accept your concessions russian retard

>>105774641
You're welcome.

>>105774623
>Russia only lost 100k men
Which is still four times more than the USSR lost in nine years of their Afghanistan war (a war that has significantly contributed to its collapse).

>>105774571
It's the only IEM with a 15dB treble peak like that so pretty much anything else. "Cymbals are so clear", no shit.

>>105774674
Embarassing, I wonder if Putin is issuing fox iems to russians, leading to poor soundstage and drone detection

So uh... what's the best pos?

What's the verdict?

>>105774961
At that pricepoint if the driver doesnt rupture its enough

>>105774961
>AI ENC built-in NPU
what the fuck does it even mean?

>>105774937
Fox IEM, endgame.

>>105774985
It means regular ANC.

>>105774961
Would buy a pair if ANC is better than OG ST.

>>105774215
Man has been trying for over a year to find someone that thinks this is funny.

Where does one buy the "blue Vido"
I search that and don't find it really

Other question, thoughts on hiby r4 vs using a dongle? I have a qudelix 5k and I think it works OK for me but it's slightly clunky, so a DAP would be cool but I know it's just consooooming

Airpods are where it's at

>>105775004
Mental Illness.

>>105774961
>5-band peq
>good FR
>waifu voice over
it's a win already

>>105776311
>waifu voiceover
if it takes longer than 5 seconds to shut that shit off, just break the damn things

>It doesn't really change how I hear footsteps in apex tho.
Shove a sample of the audio in a spectrum analyser, identify the band where the footsteps live and reduce everything else.

>>105775004
Tiny fucking hands, you malnourished ivan?

TRI DRACO, 2DD open back iem with decent frequency response for cheap. Looks like an interesting option.

>>105766051 (OP)
Do iem mics suck ass? I want something I can use in games to call people racial slurs.

>>105776547
They even claim good soundstage. This is defacto a better rec than foxpiss iem for the price.

>>105776311
>waifu voiceover
Pure cancer on OGs because it just mutes what you're listening (not pausing it) for way too long. There's nothing wrong with simple beeps.

>>105776748
>>105776734
Frequency response

>>105776735
More than good enough for that.
>>105776734
>open back iem
Sure, why not. I'm buying if under 40 bucks.

>>105776778
Its about 40 bucks, wish I got this instead of other budgets, but now im budget encumbered

>>105776748
>falling for the "openback" iem that's fully internally damped as usual for the gazillionth time
Never beating the deaf allegations.

>>105776791
Whatever you say schizo, you dont contribute nothing to this board

>>105776799
Falling for every marketing blurb is a negative contribution, just shut the fuck up.

>>105776808
You parrot the same shit about iems you havent put a finger on, just kill yourself unloved abomination

>>105776735
iem boom mic cables exist exactly for this purpose

>>105776822
You don't need to hear IEMs if you know how IEMs work. You can tell whether an IEM is openback by the graph.

>>105775004
>>105776791
Tiny subhuman russian hands posted this

>>105776833
Thanks for sliding a rec subhuman ruskie, you dont know if its damped or not, they say its 2DD to offset this, but ofc some tiny underdeveloped manlet from russia that cant stop posting knows best

>>105776852
>they say
Learn how IEMs work boi.

Why is this mongol orc posting with a VPN anyway

Why is this schizo obsessed with the fox shitposter? This is a really odd fixation even for this sub/g/eddit.

>>105776891
Russians are not welcome here

>>105776891
Fox lost its home and now lives rent-free in his head.

China and asia in general is very important for our community, but why exactly are russians allowed here? Western website, go back to 2ch invader.

China produces iems, Europe produces iems and America produces iems.

Russia is just a parasite and you shouldnt trust any of them in regards to audio, they havent done shit.

>>105776891
Because foxzo is Russian(Russia nuked his village). He didn't even know he was Russian until a week ago, retarded newfag.
>>105776925
You will never be white.

>>105776988
It seems this russian fox guy is a nuissance and overall derails the thread tho, he already has his endgame, he should just leave

>>105776544
good idea

>>105776891
sure its just one schizo lmao
the ruskie has tried to disassociate his incessant faggotry from his pos but all has been revealed, he is worse than even deafzo

>hpg widows baiting nonstop

>its one schizo
>its ukrainians
>its heckin hpg
lol

You already have your stupid cheapos with your retarded incel fox stickers. Please leave.

>>105777083
Yeah No. I'll be staying. Cope about it.

>>105777101
You dont wanna buy more gear. You dont belong here.

Janny are you OK?

>>105777119
I will buy more fox IEM.

I see why droning russians is a necessity

is the EPZ Q1 Pro just a good all around pair i'm looking for something that I can use for most things music,gaming,watching torrented shit

>>105777151
yeah i used to be a mild russia fan but this thread totally changed my views, we should move all our foreign aid from israel to ukraine so they can kill as many vatniggers as possible

>>105777153
Poor channel matching, avoid that garbage >>105767008

>another fucking thread wasted
can we go back to 4-day old threads

>>105777184
No, you will be mad about fox and you will be happy.

>>105777184
hey maybe try not shitting up the threads then ruskie faggot

>>105777178
Are there any better ones that are similarly priced?

>>105777184
Every single thread where some schizo wants us in his cargo cult and is not interested about new products is a wasted thread.

>>105766051 (OP)
Remove samsung dongle garbage from OP, 70dB @ 50mV is unusable with IEMs.

>>105777219
>inaudible noise REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>jcally w/ audible LTE noise... no... that's excellent, i trust in amir, saar!
No one is using campfire andromeda, retard.
Name a better dongle that is available everywhere and it's just werks for $12.

>>105777290
>70dB @ 50mV
>inaudible
Genuine hearing loss.
>Name a better dongle
VE Odo.

>>105777321
>Genuine hearing loss.
show someone complaining about noise on asr
>VE Odo.
no measurements

>>105777321
>available everywhere
>only available on aliexpress

Force buyers get a second pride month for free.

>>105777174
They clearly are deluded faggots that pretend everything is going fine and everyone loves them. You have to be to invade another country and still consider yourself the good guy

>>105766708
So now I listened to my playlist of songs I know by heart. All of them sounded wrong. Not bad per se, but different. Something is missing, I feel like I'm listening to something that plays really loud in a different room -- you can hear almost everything, but not all.
Especially noticeably on Your Life is a Lie. Usually it's a wild mosaic of different random sounds layered and strewn around, with YD30 it just vocals, drums and a lone high-hat from time to time.
But I want to stress that it sounds nowhere near close to the "horrible" you would expect from a $2 set. Except for jungle. Burial sounds like shit.
I will keep them for the watching videos/listening podcasts in bed duties.

>>105777339

>>105777376
Depending on your fit you get one of these bad boys with buds. You'll get more upper treble without foams but you'll get more lower treble too. I could never make buds sound good but you might try keeping the foams and boosting upper treble only, maybe subbass too but it clips even without boosting.

>>105777445
*with EQ

>>105777352
>comes to /csg/ containent thread
>complains about aliexpress
Search kt02h20 in your slop shop and you'll get something better than samshit dongle.

Why didn't they make the Pure white?

>>105777538
Too racist

>>105777290
it's 14.1 µV, with Gate that's 34 dB @ 4 kHz
meanwhile with Applel dongle only 19 dB

>>105777445
I'm good with how they sound, didn't get them for music anyway.
And the left foam is already rearing after two days of use. At least they added a second pair in the box.
Oh yeah, the box. I was actually surprised it arrived in the box (two fucking bucks) with two pairs of foams IN DIFFERENT COLORS no less. I was fully expecting a KBEar Stellar approach -- ziplock, pair of foams, go fuck yourself.
Still ordering a couple of donut foams. Shame they don't sell mix colors, at least I can't seem to find a lot where you have to buy under 1000 of them.

>>105776748
>>105776734
Every single review talks nicely about these iems and their open soundstage, why is the opinion of one parasitc ruskie enough to put down a rec? How many iems have been silenced just cause he wants everyone to buy the same old stale shit?

>>105777617
did you just overlook the "adequate imaging?"
if you're the guy talking about apex footsteps, imaging is what matters. not soundstage, which would artificially blow out the soundscape and make it INaccurate.
buy whatever you want dummy, not my money.

Fellow anons, we are about to experience something.
I present to you, sub-$1 IEMs.
They will be outfitted with S&S tips and powered by an external DAC/Amp to make sure we'll get everything out of them.

>>105777526
>shits on samshit with measurements
>praises chink shit with no measurements
nice double standard

Should I worry about muhh cirrus??

>>105777666
>its internally damped so it cant have wide soundstage
>it can have wide soundstage, but it wont be a neutral and accurate sound
Ladies and gentlemen, weve moved the goalpost

>>105777401
>N=1
>multi-ba tard
>audiophool language
Ok, you win.
Removing Samsung in the next bread

>>105777718
not the same guy.
what was said remains relevant (it's not a "real open back," iem, and you're being fooled by a company's marketing material)
tri draco is an old release that has been known about. you only now are aware of it. we've been aware, and it's a middling, unremarkable iem.
again, go ahead and buy it. you are defending something you don't even own and have never heard.

>>105776311
>waifu voice over
fuck, please no

>>105777753 > >>105777617

>>105777753
You also dont own it and are speaking about it lmao fucking dumb russhit

>>105777753
>tri draco is an old release that has been known about
It hasnt been known about cause you cant shut the fuck up about your single fox iem

oh these guys are totally coping!
or it's just another pos... hmm

Some extreme levels of samefagotry ITT

>>105777688
we're hitting levels of retard poorfaggotry not even thought possible

>everyone that calls me a newfag retard is foxzo
Lurk more newfagbro.

REMINDER TO REMOVE THE EQ GUIDE FROM OP NEXT THREAD

>hexa gets brighter with high OI
>pure gets warmer with high OI
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>105777802
lol

>>105777783
If you have knowledge, you can speak on physics and science.
If the bass driver is excessively vented, we will see a roll-off in sub bass. There is no roll-off, thus it is not excessively vented. This is physics and science.

>>105777854
1DD doesn't have this problem.

>>105777802
sweet mother of newfags...

>>105777828
based

>>105777806
Now look at your beloved EPZ lmao

>>105777802
Pretty sure the thread had a debate about this exact same IEM a few months ago, and over a year ago before on the same topic

>>105777875
that is epz q1. not pro.
and i don't see any remarks about imaging and soundstage.

>>105777881
th ats becvause it doesnt afiucking exxitsts

>>105777783
He got a point though. Just buy that pos, no one is stopping you

''Huge thanks for EPZ for providing me with this free Q1 Pro, its still garbage, i cant with a good conscience give it a nice score''

>its one schizo
>its ukrainians
>its hpg
>its heckin newfags
lmao

>>105777949
>>105777949

>>105777875
>>105777915
Embarrassing.

>>105777955
we all make mistakes, its just you doubled down and called it ''motherland''

>>105777688
I actually went and listened to my test playlist with these. Had to sub s&s tips for tri clarion because couldn't locate dunus quickly enough.
It gave me stage 7 ass cancer. It sounds like nothing I've heard before. Like music playing in a car three blocks away.
I genuinely recommend everyone getting one to give you a perspective on how good you have it, and check out what most population used when 3.5mm was a norm on phones.