>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, X5/M, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y70/60, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (gaming included): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7700/X, 9700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (13/14th gen -K CPU BIOS update required)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported, BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580, SN770
High end: SN850X
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU: compare value for money & features, Optiscaler mod expands FSR4 support
Budget: Arc B580, used card
Mid range: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-performance 1440p & Mid-range 4K: RX 9070 XT, RTX 5070 Ti
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX550/650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: Acer M3BMIIPRX, AOC Q27G3XMN (stable), NEW Q27G40XMN (beware: QC lottery)
4K: Gigabyte M28U/M27UA, ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>> >>105762187

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid-range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 G2, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>105758042

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super series rumor update (5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB)
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-also-planning-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-super-with-24gb-gddr7-memory

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: Thermal gel solution has QC issues.
Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/
https://www.igorslab.de/en/gigabytes-so-called-server-grade-thermal-conductive-gel-and-a-degrading-thermal-paste-on-the-radeon-rx-9070-gaming-oc/

AOC Q27G40XMN: Nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor if you win the QC lottery.
Bad one causes HDR content to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option [Strongest].

SSD recommendations happen to be all-WD/Sandisk because they're performant in both Windows & Linux.

>Additional PSU Reviews
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies

For PSU tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?usp=sharing

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if its price/performance is good & if you're willing to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks in the future.
RX 9070 non-XT: current 9070 prices in the US are too close to the 9070XT's to justify a recommendation.

>Others
Leave constructive feedback to help improve the OP (including news worth sharing).
Share PC building-adjacent interesting/silly images for the next OPs.

>>105769254 (OP)
powercolor has a waifu?
where's my sapphire waifu and why isn't it on my rx 9070 xt?

I'm using 6750 XT. Should I upgrade to 7800 XT or 9060 XT?

>>105769290
what game are you trying to play and what FPS are you getting?

>>105769290
only worthwhile upgrade is 9070 XT

>>105769290
7800XT has a higher raster perf (better than 6800XT).
9060XT got some FSR4 stuff if you care for it,
None of the upscalers are perfect btw, it's whether they are "good enough" for you (no right answer).

>>105769301
Most games runs fine but 6750 XT's hotspot reaches to 115 C. That's why I want to change it.
>>105769315
Too expensive in my 2nd world country.

>>105769280
I'm running out of ideas for the OP image so I'm going to look for these AIB waifus.
Unless you guys share something funny/interesting.

>>105769338
so? your card doesn't have feelings, it doesn't care that it's getting hot

>>105769338
just deshroud it and throw in 2x 120s with zip ties

>>105769338
Repaste the GPU with an MX4, MX6, or PTM7950.
Open the card up carefully if you want to re-use the thermal pads.
You can find accurate thermal pad measurements for your card if you ask the customer service agent or visit the official forum of your AIB.
Or you can rely on outside sources.

It's important to get the mounting pressure right (make sure GPU is making contact with the cold plate & the thermal pads aren't too thick/stiff to damage solder balls.)

>>105769254 (OP)
>Budget: Arc B580, used card

What's the going price at each $10?

(less than...)
$10
$20
$30
$40
$50
$60
$70
$80 - how about the r9 390x?
$90
$100

Let's also do gap cards - used cards that fill in pricing gaps, obviously only if the used card improooves.

>>105769436
>r9 390x
Can still get a vega or sometimes an rx 5700 at that price can't you?

>>105769436
get a job

>>105769471
I have a midrange card on my main machine. One computer is not enough, same as with concubines.

>>105769482
sub $100 e-waste cards aren't "mid-range"
the only reason to fuck with old components is if you're trying to build a period correct build

>>105769471
let poorfags enjoy computing (and buy my used parts)

>>105769436
The pricing on the used "ultra budget" and "basically just a display adapter" category is kind of fucked right now. It's been slowly climbing for basically the entire year.

>>105769515
I wouldn't even bother to sell shit for less then $100
they need to get a job to spend atleast $300 on my used parts

>>105769254 (OP)
Why is she korean? I'm not buying a korean waifu.

>>105769498
Cards in that range are ones I want to buy, not ones I have. It's not my main rig.

>>105769527
That's how I feel too. It's weird that the only way to get modern gpu is with an apu. I was looking at the 8600g, but the cpu part is overkill for some apps (I want to have many monotask machines non-Intel).

>trying for a 5070 TI
>all MRSP models sold out constantly even shit brands and with bad coolers
>the ones with a $200 mark up and a 1-5% shitty OC are sitting on the shelves
WHY YOU RETARDS
WHO'S BUYING THAT SHIT?

>>105769593
I bought a 9070 xt instead
it's time to cope

Just your daily reminder that path tracing performance is literally all that matters when you buy a new gpu.

>>105769591
The used gpu market in the $150 to $350ish brackets is actually still pretty good. Not as good as it was late last year but it's not totally fucked like the sub-$100 portion. At one point the reference vega 56 was like $30-$40 if you bought multiple and the 980ti was $50ish. $100-$150 is kind of weird and has been for a while, it's usually like the overbuilt 3rd world tier cards or sometimes barely functional nearly burnt out blower versions of the better cards.
>>105769593
Respectable property owning white men are buying the 5070. It's a bargain for $550 and is all you will need for the next 3-4 years at 1080p and 1440p
>>105769646
You'll be coping when it's losing to the 5060ti in Nvidia sponsored titles a year from now

>>105769254 (OP)
I have never updated my bios for my mobo. should I bother? it's a gigabyte B550 GAMING X V2.

>dirt 4 steam key $99
go woke go... what is even happening?

is going from a 3080FE to a Gigabyte 5080 a good upgrade?

I have a 7800x3d and my psu is a RM850x

>>105769714
Run benches. Are you doing ok?

>>105769682
>The used gpu market in the $150 to $350ish brackets is actually still pretty good. Not as good as it was late last year but it's not totally fucked like the sub-$100 portion. At one point the reference vega 56 was like $30-$40 if you bought multiple and the 980ti was $50ish. $100-$150 is kind of weird and has been for a while, it's usually like the overbuilt 3rd world tier cards or sometimes barely functional nearly burnt out blower versions of the better cards.

Well? Where's your list?

>>105769584
KPOP is big

>>105769714
If don't update the BIOS if your board's working just fine.

>>105769749
It's okay (over 60% performance gain) but can you find one near $1000 US?

>>105769763
>Well? Where's your list?
Something quick, haven't checked prices in a while so basically a guess. A k2200 for old games at $25-$30
Vega 56 if you can get it for $65ish or under, actually great if you use linux still.
5700 if it's under $100
2070/super, maybe the 2060 super or 2080/super for the $150-180 category
2080ti for $250ish and under
3080 for under $380
After that you just buy new.

>>105769749
If you get a 5080 remember to overclock for your free 10 percent performance. They under clocked it to sell the 5080 super.

>>105769763
it's been working fine without any issues that I've noticed.
>>105769787
that's the thing I've always done, update only as needed. when I looked it up reddit was saying that updates might improve some background stuff like ram subtiming or some other lgbtq mental illness

>>105769714
If everything works for you, then you don't have to touch it. What kind of processor do you have?

You can see what they fixed in the updates.

>>105769749
3080 to 5090 for 3x the performance for 3x the money
don't settle for less

>>105769787
I probably need to buy a bigger table too, even though I like it that way.

>>105769945
>could easily place tower outside of desk leg room
>place it within
is this some kind of advanced autism that refuses feng shui?

>>105769929
I have a 5900x, a 5070ti, and some cheap 2x16 ram sticks

>>105769945
>liquids on table
>PC underneath blocking manspreading angle
PC Darwin award

What is best monitor that has *big*?

I'm currently using an ancient dell 30" 2560x1600 monitor (and some random 1080p 24" monitor as a secondary). The pixel density is adequate. I'd rather have higher density, but I also want a physically larger screen so I could use just a single, centered monitor. There are 43" 4k monitors that would have about the same pixel density, are they any good? Why doesn't anyone make an 8k 43" monitor? Dell makes an 8K monitor but it's only 32".

Also I don't want to do any scaling, shit on my screen almost looks too big as it is, I want everything to be smaller lol. Really I feel like I need 16K to get good density so I can have better looking fonts and shit and still have stuff tiny. Like 16K scaled to 8K but in a 40-50" package maybe I dunno.


Also I'm poor so what's the best, most affordable, biggest high res monitor? Need full viewing angles too don't care about brightness though I keep my monitor on the lowest brightness setting.

>>105769924
>updates might improve some background stuff like ram subtiming or some other lgbtq mental illness
It's very unlikely board manufacturers are going to retest an old motherboard and add better memory auto presets, it's a waste of company resources.

>>105769254 (OP)
Wow she is hot.
What are they selling? How do I buy this?

I am doing a gig of building a PC that can house a RTX pro 6000 blackwell 96 GB workstation editions, but needs to also work for dual RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell workstation editions if the client wants to expand in the future.

What hardware other than the GPU's do you recommend? I have about 3k-5k budget for non-GPU hardware. So far, I am considering an Asus X870E Hero, AMD 9950X, arctic liquid freezer iii 420, G.Skill DDR5 Trident Z5 RGB 2x32GB 6000 (or maybe 4x), Cooler Master M2000 Platinum, fractal design 7 XL case.

Gaming motherboards dont seem to have nvlink these days... and i dont really have the budget for a WRX90 (AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7970X) or W790 (Intel Xeon W-3400) board.

Any suggestions?

>>105770010
Most of the waifu components are China-only SKUs.

>>105769974
As long as the memory kit is running at 3200MT/s (CL16) or faster, it's fine.

>>105770027
okay that makes sense, thanks bros

>>105769682
still banevading pedonigger?

>>105770043
I'm not whoever you think I am schizo

>>105770019
So you're saying I should move to China?

>>105770013
I don't think NVLink is supported in these cards >>105770075
https://www.itcreations.com/user-manuals/rtx-pro-6000-manuals/nvidia-rtx-pro-6000-blackwell-server-edition-datasheet.pdf
https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/data-center/rtx-pro-6000-blackwell-workstation-edition/workstation-blackwell-rtx-pro-6000-workstation-edition-nvidia-us-3519208-web.pdf

Everything arrived except the GPU, but the motherboard has an HDMI port. Can I go ahead and turn it on, install Windows, and set everything up now, then just plug in the GPU later? Or is it better to wait and do the first boot with the GPU installed?

>>105769254 (OP)
i asked an llm to build me a pc to dualboot windows and linux, do you guys wanna see what it said?

>>105770135
I guess.

>>105770135
not much desu

>>105770122

Ah, you are right. That makes things a lot easier.

>>105770159
>>105770171

RTX 4070 Super
Ryzen 5 7600
ASUS B650-Plus WiFi
32 GB DDDR5
1 TB SSD
650 w gold PSU
NVMe box for windows (optional)

I told it i didn't want to miss out on CUDA cores in case I need small scale image genning models in my pc so thats why it suggested an nvidia GPU, the alternative was a AMD RX 7800 XT

>>105770281
Would've been nice if the AI specified the memory speed & timings.
If you prioritize AI image gen over gaymen, 5060 Ti 16GB might be the better choice.
Which case did it suggest? CPU cooler?

>>105770281
Looks like the safe and standard build from last year. Presumably knowledge cutoff.

>>105770327
the AMD Stock cooler and a cheap Fractal design Pop Air. I don't really care that much on image generation, but I don't want to miss out on CUDA in case i need it for projects, it feels silly to spend any ammount of money on a PC just to pay cloud computing fees. Besides isn't NVIDIA more power efficient?

>>105770347
Has anything changed after last year ? the only noticeable difference I see are GPUs

>>105769958
>>105769986
look how high the sidearms are and think about how I'm really sitting. I'm not putting my feet under the table, because my arms are on chair.

>>105770415
>the only noticeable difference I see are GPUs
Pretty much. The 9600X is also about the same price as the 7600(X) now too so you might as well.

>>105765507 #
Doesn't have to be super small but I'd probably use an matx mobo and don't want a ton of empty space in the case for no reason

>>105770441
Someone told me that more space in the case is better for thermals is this true?

>>105770013
How much are you getting paid for this gig?

>>105770477
Probably. I only use midrange components with fairly low tdp though

I need to urgently replace my GPU, what would you pick?
>5070 Ti for 780€
>used 4070 Ti Super for 600-650€
>used 4070 Super for 500€

>>105770670
Used Ti Super between that choice (if the model is nice and if the card is in good condition).
5070Ti otherwise.

Feel free to bully me if this sucks, building for the first time since a decade ago and you guys gave me great recommendations then

East Coast USA
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tfZrBq

>>105770477
yes, with larger case (ATX vs mATX) you have ability to create much better airflow and to use larger fans. but depends on the build tho - high tdp and power-hungry components will definitely feel better in large case (120+w cpus and 250-300w++ gpus), while for low-tdp components (i.e. 60-isn watt cpus and sub-200w gpus) it does not matter much, but larger case will still win.
but don't go full-retard mode with the size - you don't need those 1-meter-tall xxl-atx cases - just standard atx size is a sweet spot

>older board, good psu, okay cooler. tall ram. cheap monitor. a rather cheap build
>newer board, worse psu and cooler. okayish ram height (yeah, airCHAD here). slightly better monitor. expensive build
Which way? Note, in that expensivier build, the PSU isn't even 3.x

>>105770724
Never cheap out on PSU. NEVAH!

>>105770694
garbage
cheapen up the CPU and get a better GPU, the mobo can't even handle that CPU anyway
SSD is pretty garbage
2 tb HDD? what is this? 2015?
just get a 2tb NVMe
also spring for 2x32gb RAM kit. it'll last longer

>>105770694
Changed the SSD and video card model (Prime has decent build quality, Gigabyte currently has some QC issues with their thermal gels).
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MJLjkf

I agree with the other guy that you should consider getting a 2TB drive.
The board has more than enough VRMs to power that 7800X3D, but you need to update the BIOS to the latest version before you install that chip.
https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-goes-on-record-confirms-ryzen-cpu-failures-are-linked-to-bios-settings-offers-warranty-support

I don't think the savings from the 7800X3D to a 7700X or 9700X will be enough to move up to a 5070 Ti (unless you get lucky with the $750 PNY restocks @ Best Buy).

>>105770670
the 5070 will probably be much faster for newer games a couple years down the line, especially as dev teams become more indian and nvidia updates deliver more goyframes

>>105770694
7700X + 5070 Ti + 2TB NVMe (dropped the HDD).
This costs only $20 more compared to your list (1TB less storage).
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7mwjkf

But you might want to learn how to undervolt that card to help it run cooler & quieter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MplM3lCJ7Ps

I don't know who needs to hear this but if you're doing a full PC build half the budget should be going to the GPU
everything should then be built around whatever GPU you bought
the next most important component is the PSU don't cheap out on the PSU! if you buy a high quality one it will literally last the rest of your life, if you cheap out it will pop and take half your system with it.
then the Mobo
then the CPU
then the CPU cooler
then the RAM
then the storage
and very last is the case, everyone rocked pic rel at some point
maybe post this in OP as a sort of "self-help"?

>>105770694
7700X + 5070 Ti + 2TB NVMe (dropped the HDD, lowered PSU capacity to 750W: you don't need more).
This costs less than your list (1TB less storage).
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yHPYC8

But you might want to learn how to undervolt that card to help it run cooler & quieter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MplM3lCJ7Ps

>>105770906
see? the GPU is almost exactly half the cost

>>105770882
i thought it was common sense to pick cpu+gpu combo and build around it with any budget

>>105770974
many still don't want to accept that 50% of the budget should be on the GPU these days or think a 9800X3D will make up for it

>>105770974
I just ranked the components in order of what gets your money first
you want to "bundle" the CPU+Mobo to make sure the Mobo actually has the power phases to power the CPU you're selecting
if you try putting a high powered CPU into a shit board it'll be very unstable, especially nowadays with how PBO works you're better off getting a great Mobo then just upgrading the CPU later if needed, the right Mobo will last you 10 years
for gaming CPUs reeeally aren't that important, a 7600x would be fine for that build

Do you guys still partition your OS drive? What do you do when you want to do a clean install if everything’s on the same partition?

>>105770974
I've seen people spend $300 on Lian Li unifans and $300 on an LCD AIO and then the CPU/GPU is trash

>>105771027
now that I'm on linux I do multiple drives
/ is on one drive
/home is on another
then I have a gaming drive I put in /mnt that I install games on
if I reinstall (I haven't in years) I just install on the boot drive, mount the home drive into /home/ and my profile and all my data carries over

Why does installing a different driver version affect your undervolt?

>>105771027
i have a home server, so i just upload whatever i want to transfer there and do a clean install

>>105771322
Maybe the newer driver can push the card a bit harder through some optimizations, and that exposes instabilities.

>>105771322
Voltage settings aren't jumpers anymore.

>>105770001
Why hasn't our monitor man replied to this guy?

>Why doesn't anyone make an 8k 43" monitor?
Not enough demand for that type of display, especially not for gaming.

>Dell makes an 8K monitor but it's only 32"
It's probably one of their UltraSharp professional displays.

>Like 16K scaled to 8K but in a 40-50" package maybe I dunno.
You must have an insanely good eyesight.

>Also I'm poor so what's the best, most affordable, biggest high res monitor?
If you're poor you can't get a 32" 8K or a 43" 8K display

Get a 42/43" 4K TV that works well as a display, I think the monitor guy likes the C4 WOLED.
OLED displays have burn-in issues btw, but if you're low-brightness bro it shouldn't be too much of an issue.
https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B0CVRXN6XZ

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/42-c4-oled
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/by-size/34-49-inch

>>105771322
it doesn't

>>105771027
I don't, have os drive, project/stuff drive, first backup project/stuff drive, external backups.

When I get paranoid about crashing hdd I make a clone of the os drive, I get that thought like once a year.

>>105770001
>>105771546
Resolution greater than 8k doesn't make sense in any size of screen. It's high enough resolution that you won't even be able to resolve the pixels if the screen fills 110% of your field of view. The only reason for 16k and beyond is CSI shit where the display is an entire wall and you walk closer to it to get a 4k view of the reflection in the victim's eye.

are monitor arms considered part of this general?

>>105769254 (OP)
Any anons tried Xiaomi G27Qi? Absurdly cheap for its price with the 1440p 27’ mid refresh rate chinkshit aside. I’m thinking of pulling the trigger

also speaking of monitors are either of these fine

>>105769254 (OP)
9060 XT Reaper is cute and the 16GB for $350 was pretty damn good over a 5600 XT

>>105769436
I'm down

>What's the going price at each $10?

(less than...)
$10 r5 340x
$20 r5 430
$30 quadro k1200
$40 rx 460 (4gb)
$50
$60
$70
>$80 - how about the r9 390x?
I'd recommend rx 580, as driver support is more up to date and are easier to find in the used market. r9 390x is roughly 4-7% better.
https://technical.city/en/video/Radeon-RX-580-vs-Radeon-R9-390X
$90
$100 rx 5600 xt

These are cards that I've have/had and experienced in these price ranges

>>105770013
Sadly workstation board would be much better, it could run both those cards at PCIe 5.0 x16 speeds and also RAM is much better, eight channels instead of two
other than that the build looks fine, make sure that both of those card will be able to fit into the slots and won't collide with each other

Should I write 1000 sonnets of my love * and send it to her? I could use ai.

*she doesn't know my name

990 pro or SN850x for boot drive? I heard that SN850x is running hot.

>>105770128
Sure, you can

Are people pretty happy with the gpu market now that you can buy decent nvidias close to 800€ and higher vram variants are coming soonish

>>105772133
both are beyond overkill for a boot drive, and you wont get 1% of their performance out of it. Just get any ~500gig SSD with a dram cache for a boot drive and call it a day.

>>105772151
>decent nvidias close to 800€
The 5080 (actual 5080, not the 5070 LARPing as a 5080) should cost $800. $900 at the most. Current market is still complete horseshit.

>>105772187
you're not wrong that the Njudean gpus are wildly overpriced, but the prices of 2015 and before will never return anon, and there's a hundred reasons why.

>>105772228
its pretty illustrative that a console gen launches in 2020, then 5 years later they get price increases
Switch 2 launches in 2025 same price as ps5 at ps4 power using automobile soc from 2020.

The people who go "well the gpus should cost X or im mad" are just tards.

>>105772228
tldr: the jews
They're real reasons but not good reasons, everything is just fucked.

>>105772228
You're right that those prices aren't coming back but I'm not asking for x80 GPUs to cost $500 to $600 again.

Is it smart to only CPU+cpufan+RAM on your motherboard and start it up on my table, to then do memory training and a BIOS upgrade/patch afterwards?

Only after all that (and seeing that everything was successful) will I put in all the M2 drives, lift the whole thing into the case and slot in the GPU.

Sounds like a plan?

>>105772302
people typically test all the components outside the case first, yes

>>105771996
I would get the XG27ACG, a decently reviewed 1440p monitor that costs the same as the TUF (sale ends July 3rd)
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/asus-rog-strix-27-qhd-180hz-1ms-gtg-ips-led-gaming-monitor-xg27acg/18965640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXgvP84g2BU
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/rog-strix-xg27acs

>>105772151
We need to see more cards priced at/closer to their MSRPs in the US.

Will this fan configuration work?

I don’t really give a shit about the ARBG but I think I want the intake fans to be on that CHA_FAN2 header so they’ll be controlled by the motherboard temp sensor
On the other hand I want the three exhaust fans on the side and back to be always on full so they’re venting the CPU fan all the time, and that’s accomplished by leaving them on that powered hub
idk tho, my dumb ass has been trying to figure it out for a week

>>105772302
Newer midrange or better motherboards have a CPU-less BIOS update option.
AM5 board owners and Intel 13/14th gen -K processor owners should use that feature to get the latest firmware for their CPU before installing the CPU & memory.

Longshot, but anyone know if the powercolor red devil 6950 is the same board as the 6900? I want to into water cooling it for shits and gigs but can't find any for it that are still in stock, but there are a couple for the red devil 6800/6900.

I'm looking for a decent white case and I'm thinking of going for the Lian Li 216, is that a solid choice? The OP recommends the 207 but I don't know the difference.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0BVH7ZM6N/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

is it worth to upgrade from a 7900 GRE to a 9070 XT?

>>105772378
It's probably the same, 6950 has a better binned GPU and maybe a few more power stages.
The card dimensions are the same for what it's worth.
https://www.powercolor.com/product-detail175.htm
https://www.powercolor.com/product-detail125.htm

>>105772373
image upload quality fucked ibb dot co slash 0yJ2WgxT

>>105771996
both are gay overpriced compared to my ktc h27t22s. i paid $150 for it.

>>105772378
no idea, maybe watch an old breakdown by gamers nexus on it? you may be able to infer whether it is or not based on their descriptions. Its most probably the same but its not guaranteed, if there was any design flaws in the og 6900xt they may have altered it in the 6950.

>>105772387
its like 30-40% better

>>105772373
What is this image even supposed to show us?
Why is the image also a thumbnail?
Did you'll hasn't dain bramage?

>>105772387
I'd wait for UDNA.

what's a straining order?

>>105772302
No, you should do a BIOS update first before you boot a new CPU. The motherboard only needs power from the PSU for BIOS Flashback, nothing else, no CPU, no RAM, no GPU, nothing.

>>105772419
something those streamer thots you stalk have issued against you, so you stop stealing their garbage. *REstraining order.

I look down upon ye frame-technology non-believers. Ever since finally getting a card that was not from the previous century I've been able to press the frame generation button and see what the real world benefit is; my GPU is able to run ice cold because it actually only needs to achieve half the framerate. My 165hz monitor might not be the best but a 160 frame cap is still plenty, and turning on framegen means the target render is merely 80 frames a second. I was shocked to see a temperature read in the mid-50°Cs range on a AAA game on all maxed settings, even if it was a non-action scene, and in the summer no less.

Less temps means less power draw means less noise means lower room temps means a comfortable experience that a person wiping his screen with his nose looking for visual errors will never have. There is being poor and then there's choosing to live like a poor.

>>105772187
The 5080 with 24GB VRAM will be at least $1500

i forgot to order thermal paste together with everything else and now im sitting on all my parts just waiting for the paste to arrive

>>105769945
> the "desk" of people who claim that 32" displays are to big

>>105772166
I want something that is guaranteed to last. Who cares if it's not getting the most out of it, the point is they are quality drives that likely won't crap out.

>>105772441
The latency increase is a thing, which is why Nvidia bundles Reflex with Framegen and basically requires it all the time and why it isn't implemented in competitive games. Sure, untreated, the latency can be worse than framegen + Reflex but it's less of a free lunch than upscaling but yes, for a game where reaction time does not matter which is most non competitive games, it's good enough of a tradeoff.

>>105772402
CPU fan has to Motherboard CPU_FAN header via 4pin PWM
CPU fan also has a 3pin ARGB cable

Five case fans (two big intake ones on the top [240/280mm] and three exhaust fans on the side and back [120mm)

The case fans came with an RGB hub, depicted on the lower left from the manual.
Right now the hub is powered by the SATA cable so the fans are on max all the time, but the hub and the CPU fan both each have a 3pin ARGB cable, currently unconnected

I got the ARGB controller seen on the upper right, but I don’t know how to best set it up.

I think that when the hub is connected via that 4pin PWM cable to the Motherboard CHA_FAN2 header, all the fans plugged into the controller will be regulated by that temperature sensor?
So I should disconnect the two intake fans from the hub and run them through that controller instead, which can also operate the ARGB for the hub case fans (exhaust) and the cpu fan?

Please render whatever aid you can I fear I am legit brain damaged, fans should not be the hardest part

>>105772228
It's wild that giving free loans to blacks fucked the economy for decades. They really are an anchor around the neck of humanity forever.

>>105772338
Lmao no they don't.

When will the next display adapter card come out? The 1030 is REALLY long in the tooth. If they wait for next gen to make it the 6030 would have the baggage of new process node prices. Would it be better to make a 5030 then? Would 2GB give any problems for non-interactive multimedia consumption? They could probably give it 4GB and no one would complain. Probably.

>>105772548
Better iGPUs will take over those media cards.

>>105772426
Much preciated. FINALLY some attention!

>>105772385
It's a good case, commonly recommended last year.
You'll have to do your research to compare the difference between that and the 207/217.
A common complaint of the 216 case is the loud front fans at stock speeds, you need to set a custom fan speed/curve for those.

>>105772548
there's the gtx1650 and rtx3050 6gb (75W)

>>105772390
That's what I'm figuring, but I'd rather be sure before blowing 200 bucks on a block for nothing

>>105772396
Gn never tore down a red devil 6800/6900/6950, but I'll do some googling in hopes that someone else did

>>105772746
Send Alphacool an email about it, they might answer the q.

>>105772486
All that image does is just make shit confusing.
What are you trying to accomplish with that? It doesn't show anything. 5 fans on the left, 5 fans on the right, 5 fans on the bottom?
Shit makes no sense.

Just go find an angled shot of your case and MS paint some lines pointing to where fans are (in actual 3d space) and people will have some thoughts for your setup but with whatever the fuck you have here.. lmao. You've gotta be trolling.

question for gpu deshroud, for 330mm length gpu, is it better to use 3x120mm or 120+92+120mm fans setup?

is this video still true?

https://youtu.be/kDVzexhr7io?si=lP1gNP2xMhR6Lp1W

Maybe a dumb and vague question, but how do I get the most out of my AMD GPU as far as driver and Adrenalin settings goes?

>>105772988
Nice performance, thx for sharing.
AMD's trying to change their image.

>>105773010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18_TRZi9hOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naBqsSfGX3A

>>105769254 (OP)
Anything blatantly wrong with this build?

I already have the corsair CPU cooler in my current system so I'll reuse it. Is it enough for the 9950X3d?
I also have a 750W PSU, but it doesn't seem to leave much of a buffer with the current configuration, and this is before adding the drives and other things that will surely drive up the wattage.

>>105772988
especially nvidia melting everything, yes.

>>105772973
probably 3x120 since the outermost airflow matters more and 120mm fans have much higher wind speeds than 92mm fans

>>105773063
DDR5 memory modules are stressful on the memory controller, those two separate 64GB kits won't run at advertised EXPO speeds without manual tuning (might not even work).
Drop down to 2x 32GB or 2x 48GB at 6000MT/s CL30 if you want better EXPO compatibility.
If you want the 128GB memory capacity, you'll have to sacrifice speed/timings.
The first 7~8 min of this vid will explain it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-LqWdvoFLY

>I already have the corsair CPU cooler in my current system so I'll reuse it. Is it enough for the 9950X3d?
If the CPU isn't running near full utilization for an extended time, it should be okay.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d/22.html

1000W should be fine for that setup, even with the storage drives.
Even 750W is okay if you're just gaming.

>>105773063
That 5080 price is crazy btw.
5080 Super with 24GB is rumored to be released next year, but it will cost around that price ($1200~1600).

>>105773139
I use my computer for literally everything, not just gaming. I've done video/photo editing, AIslop generation, actual hardcore computation for work, Virtual Machines, and more so I actually need the RAM capacity.

>>105773175
I'll probably just grab it if I feel like it and can afford it when it drops. I'm on a 3080 rn and it's starting to show its age.

>>105773063
Fancy, you must be rich. No way I could do $1k on a component.

>>105773203
>when it drops
dog. when it WHATS?

>>105773206
I make a huge upgrade like this once every 5+ years or so in the summer to take advantage of sales and lower prices before the artificial pre-black friday price inflation cycle starts so that "normal" price seems like a sale price.

>>105773198
Buy a 2x 64GB 5600MT/s JEDEC kit if you don't want to deal with manual memory tuning,
This capacity/speed/timing is in your board's QVL.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Z3wD4D/crucial-cp2k64g56c46u5-128-gb-2-x-64-gb-ddr5-5600-cl46-memory-cp2k64g56c46u5

>>105773214
Rumors are just that, a rumor. It's got to release some time, and there's no telling what the price will be like due to all the meme computer shit involving GPU's nowadays (crypto, AI, etc.)

>>105773257
They might go up, ok?

>>105773256
I think I picked the wrong RAM from PCParts picker. It should have been this one: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yXyH99/teamgroup-t-create-expert-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl34-memory-ctced564g6000hc34bdc01

It's on the motherboard's QVL.

>>105773265
You realize "drop" could mean it gets released for sale? The term is used this way in fashion (clothes) all the time.

>>105773309
>QVL
in my experience ain't for shit

>>105773313
oh ok. Just don't want any optimism around here.

>>105773309
That one set's advertised EXPO speed & timing will work by itself.
When you buy two packs of those (4x 32GB), the advertised EXPO speed & timings aren't guaranteed to work without manual tuning.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1k6rq10/ram_stability_issue_128gb_4x32gb_ddr5_on_amd_am5/

That Reddit post has the guy with a Ryzen 7000 CPU, but it applies to the 9950X3D too because it uses the same I/O Die/memory controller with the same limitations.

>>105773063
Too small 240 AIO, 4 sticks of memory on AM5, 1200W is a bit overkill but I guess that small price difference doesn't matter to you.

>>105773309
Get one of these instead. The one you've selected uses budget brand memory ICs. And mixing kits is asking for trouble on ddr5. Get the amount that you need from a 2 stick kit directly or be prepared to FAFO.

>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RHCZxr/patriot-venom-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-pvv564g600c30k

>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6wzp99/gskill-flare-x5-96-gb-2-x-48-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3036f48gx2-fx5

>https://www.newegg.com/global/sg-en/corsair-vengeance-32gb-ddr5-6400-cas-latency-cl42-desktop-memory-black/p/N82E16820982274

>>105773309
Either one of these instead. The one you've selected uses budget brand memory ICs. And mixing kits is asking for trouble on ddr5. Get the amount that you need from a 2 stick kit directly or be prepared to FAFO.

>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RHCZxr/patriot-venom-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-pvv564g600c30k

>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6wzp99/gskill-flare-x5-96-gb-2-x-48-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3036f48gx2-fx5

>https://www.newegg.com/corsair-vengeance-32gb-ddr5-6400-cas-latency-cl42-desktop-memory-black/p/N82E16820982274

>>105773344
>>105773347
>>105773369
Thanks. I don't really overclock or mess with the bios unless I absolutely need to tho.

>>105770281
>>105770415
Looks like better advice than you'd get here or reddit desu

My newphew has been playing his switch 2 for a few weeks now, i'be been having fun on mine too.

>>105770882
>if you're doing a full PC build half the budget should be going to the GPU
My last build GPU budget was $0 because I didn't need one. Why would it need to be 50% if you don't play games?

almost fell for the seagay meme

>>105773347
Cooler is actually an H115i. I just found some of the paperwork when I was looking for the AMD bracket.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cp3NnQ/corsair-icue-link-h115i-rgb-825-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9061002-ww

Monitor first > use case (productivity/gaming) > CPU socket generation > CPU > GPU
This is the actual correct parts selection pipeline. CPUs are more important to keep up-to-date now but the truth is still that people will upgrade this part the least because it can entail replacement of other components, namely motherboard and memory. Whatever is picked will likely stay until the machine is sunset to 2nd hand or the garbage bin. The choice of the CPU will also inform the budget of the entire build; no point in picking a class 70 or higher if you must settle for a midrange CPU (ie _600 - _700 no 3D cache).

>>105769342

9070 XT for $700 on Newegg rn. Y/N?

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-steel-legend-rx9070xt-sl-16g-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814930136

>>105774111
Y. there's no other gpu that comes close to that around $699

>>105774169
Basado. Just grabbed one since it looks like it's overkill for 1440p - should get a decent lifespan out of it.

Oh no no no no
People with 9070s having problems with Mecha Break DX12 because their poo card just isn't supported!

>>105774202
That's just chinks being retarded and sticking the dx12 flag behind a GPU ID list.
Just like how they made their anticheat whitelist Steam Decks running SteamOS yet claim Linux isn't supported and block desktop Linux from running the game.

>>105774361
>yet claim Linux isn't supported
Correct
>block desktop Linux
Excellent

The only game that looneybins get to play is arguing with various Linux developers about the use cases of basic GUI functionality.

>105774407
SteamOS is an Arch fork THOUGH.

Could you guys recommend me the best or a perfect 2K OLED monitor? Price is not a huge problem but keep it under 1000 euros/bucks

Thanks in advance

>>105774195
This class is simply not overkill for 1440. You turn every graphical setting up to max and it will stress the card, especially any ray or path tracing options. It is simply the correct match to maintain high framerates. Anyone going to 4k with these class of cards will always be compromising on a lot of settings.

Looking at possibly upgrading from 32GB to 64 or higher, is it worthwhile getting faster DDR5 for the 7900X? Looks like the fastest my motherboard officially supports is 7200 MT/s, is it possible/worthwhile overclocking it even higher?

>>105774719
your xmp isn't even turned on anon. you've been running your memory at 4800mt/s. go to your bios and enable your xmp profile.
ryzen 7000 and 9000 memory controller peaks out at 3000mhz at 6000mt/s and will have to run in half speed higher than about 6200-6400mt/s meaning it drops to only 1800mhz at 7200mt/s and loses performance. If you want high speed ram for OC autismo, 8000mt/s is worth running as it overcomes the half speed penalty but this is only possible on single rank 32gb or 48gb kits.
64gb and 96gb kits tops out at about 6800-7200mt/s and will require a lot of manual fine tuning to get there while 6000-6200mt/s will just work with better performance.
tl;dr no.

>>105774808
>your xmp isn't even turned on anon.
That's an old screenshot lol, fucking annoying how I have to re-enable EXPO after every bios update. It's enabled now.
>tl;dr no.
Guess I'll wait for shit to get cheaper then. I really don't push this system to its limits very often, but I noticed Red Dead Redemption II and having a bunch of tabs and shit open was eating up a surprising amount of RAM.

>>105774839
ram is really cheap right now so you can consider getting a 2x32gb 6000cl30 kit of ram
though if you ever intend to move to a zen6 cpu, you might as well wait and see since amd will be revamping the memory controller and infinity fabric links on that generation which might make 2x32gb or 2x48gb of 8000mt/s ram viable to run for max performance

Newfag here, just bought my first ever decent monitor (ASUS Strix XG27UCG). Can anyone please explain VRR/FreeSync/ELMB(-Sync)? Also will I have trouble with scaling since it's a dual mode display?

>>105774719
Why do you have such a high end cpu yet the rest of your system is low end?

Cumpleted it on Intel Arc.
Bo-ring.

>>105775030
Time to complete nier replicant

>>105769254 (OP)
The glass part of my pc looks pristine but the back side is warping because of how bundled up and fucked up the cables are. How does one do cable management? Do you guys have pics of your cables? Do they look gewd?

Thoughts on pic related? I'm not actually buying from Amazon due to taxes and shipping costs, had to pick based on local availability. I might have to swap the case for a Corsair 4000D if the Lian li is not restocked soon, also strongly considering getting the CPU from Aliexpress to save 50 bucks

>>105775069
Pull the excess runs of cables down into the PSU shroud and only keep the bare minimum up against the back panel

>>105774719
>is it possible/worthwhile overclocking it even higher?
no
what you should do is apply these on top of your EXPO profile
https://www.patreon.com/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831

>>105772377
>>105772424
Why should that be done before installing the CPU? Doesn't the "BIOS gui" have an update section?

>>105775155
Doesn't the PSU heat up under load? I don't want them fusing to the chasis or fusing together either. Isn't that just a bigger fire risk?

>>105769254 (OP)
Anyone knows any youtube channels of people building old PCs and running old OSs in them? I wanna see if they still use it.

>>105774969
>Why do you have such a high end cpu yet the rest of your system is low end?
Ran out of money. Bought the CPU, motherboard, and RAM on holiday in Japan where it was cheap at the time. The RX 6800 was meant to be a stopgap (got it on eBay for AU$550 in '23, decent price at the time) while I waited for GPU prices to come down to something reasonable, then I just never got around to upgrading because new titles are hot garbage and the 6800 runs everything I play, and I haven't needed more than 32 GB RAM.

>>105775178
Thanks, I'll give this shit a try.

>>105775219
Budget-Builds Official might be what you're looking for, he does a lot of ebay/bargain bin/dumpster diving kind of builds and benchmarks them with a wide variety of games and OSes.

>>105775219
RandomGaminginHD

>>105775320
Thanks, I think this is more of what I'm looking for. I also know of dosdude1 but hes more of a repair kind of guy instead of pc build kind of guy

>>105774111
I'd go for the sapphire pulse instead

>>105775124
It's a sensible list. I'm not sure about the cooler and case (they're exactly what I have but there might be better value alternatives now). Also I'd get another drive, having a single one can be sluggish (for SSD standards), particularly if you use Windows.

My aio is 5 years old and the warranty is almost done? When should I look to replace it?

>>105775511
Sapphire pulse is missing thermal pads on the backplate. The ASRock has pads on the back.

>>105775600
source?

>>105775562
Is it making weird noises?

>>105775606
Gamersnexus and teardowns

>>105775600
Backplate pads are a meme. The memory on my 9070 pulse tops out at 80c in memtest_vulkan. I know it's not due to throttling because it immediately drops to 78c if I open my case's front panel.

>>105775621
No I tested it with the pump off and on in bios

>>105775629
can you link the tear down of the asrock steel legend? I can only find the sapphire pulse

>>105775202
The BIOS menu doesn't work if it doesn't have a CPU run on and it can't run on a CPU it doesn't know. You can do BIOS flashback with the CPU in, it just doesn't need it.

>>105775696
You can also refer to ASRocks website.
>Designed to avoid PCB bending. The fancy outlook makes the graphic card more legendary in visual. It also helps to enhance cooling with the premium thermal pads equipped backside.
https://www.asrock.com/Graphics-Card/AMD/Radeon%20RX%209070%20XT%20Steel%20Legend%2016GB/

>>105775651
The core and memory share the same cold plate. If the memory is reduced by a few degrees that means the core can boost higher.

>>105769254 (OP)
Good news amdbros, AMD FineWine™ is alive and well!

>>105775912
The real fine wine driver is later this month. 25.7.1 is supposed to fix chromium and av1

>>105775912
Blackwell's space marines 2 perf has also been fixed apparently

>>105775881
I'd like to see the VRMs and the heatsink design
I still think that sapphire pulse is superior because it's a 3 slot cooler vs the 2.5 slot asrock one however there's no tear down of the asrock card to compare VRM
if all the asrock has going for it is back plate pads you could always buy silicon pads and stick them on the pulse

>>105775943
9070xt is finally good enough for sweaty fps gaymen

>>105775912
What abotu Watts? If NVIDIA can run almost the same but with 30 less W is it truly a win?

>>105775981
who cares about a 30w difference?

>>105775973
this is good because it was pretty terrible on launch drivers
>>105775981
any money you think you're saving from those 30 W will be offset by the 9070 XT's lower price

>>105775981
>faster for 20% less isn't a win
just press the auto undervolt button

>>105775881
Seems okay to me? Only power limited.

>>105775981
In my cunt, the cheapest 9070xt costs US$815 as opposed to the cheapest 5070ti's US$1097.
Its a huge win for AMD no matter how I look at it.

Is it safe to put hdd like this im afraid of bottom of hdd touching this metal, also i put not original screws but it holding and its not shaky

>>105776068

>>105776068
Don't install it vertically. Always install hdds in the horizontal position if not you risk accelerated wear of the head

>>105774611
The 500Hz QD-OLED monitors have DisplayHDR True Black 500 certification (500 nits peak HDR brightness, 300 nits peak SDR).
But this (MSI 272QP X50) might be over your budget or not available yet.
https://displayhdr.org/performance-criteria/

Other 1440p OLEDs, all similar with some different OLED panel protection.
I believe MSI has the strictest panel protection settings out of the list.
>360Hz QD-OLED (all TrueBlack 400, all DP 1.4, no UHBR20)
ASUS XG27ACDNG
Alienware AW2725DF
Gigabyte FO27Q3
MSI MPG 271QRX

I don't care for DP2.1 & UHBR20 for these 1440p monitors, the premium isn't worth it.
Better to move up to 32" 4K for that cost.

WOLED, I would wait for the new Gigabyte monitor released later this year (TB500 cert)
https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/gigabyte-announce-mo27q28g-with-a-27-primary-rgb-tandem-woled-panel

>>105775562
Get HWInfo and check your CPU's idle & load temps once every two weeks or so.
If you're noticing higher temps, maybe it's time to replace the AIO.

>>105776090
servers mount 2.5" drives vertically all the time, it's not a big deal

What kind of undervolt are you guys using on your 9070 XTs? I am at -110 mV. Haven't optimized it yet. I tried -150 mV but that wasn't stable. I have the Asrock Steel Legend since it was the cheapest at the time. Also curious about the VRAM clocks you have. Mine has Samsung VRAM.

>>105776268
so that cheap white asrock 9070 xt also uses samsung vram?
the sapphire pulse uses hynix, another reason to go for the pulse

>>105776287
Isn't it random? Afaik vendors get their vram from a bom kit packaged with the gpu core that's provided by amd/nvidia

>>105775997
Higher watts means higher temp which means louder fans, AND on top of that more money on the electric bill.Doesn't sound very appealing

>>105776303
I have heard that you can have either on the steel legend. Down to luck i guess.

>>105776304
Good thing the 9070 XT is well past the power limit/performance curve out of the box and maintains 99% of its performance with -20% power limit and an undervolt.

>>105776304
just get one of the 9070 xts with a giant cooler

These are my monitor options
ASUS TUF VG249Q1A
MSI G2712F
LG Gamer UltraGear™ 27"
Acer Nitro ED270R
Which one do I pick

>>105776339
LG

>>105776339
>>105776357
Oh and
Lenovo G25-10
MSI G2422C
Samsung C24RG50FQL

>>105776366
answer hasn't changed
the LG

>>105776304
it's 30 W
not 100 W
you're just coping

It's good that the 9070 XT performance is improving.
More options for people and the competition doesn't allow either of them to drip-feed performance gains (or at least too stingy).

>>105776303
>>105776287
Yeah it's random what VRAM you get. Both sapphire and ASRock could be Samsung or Hynix. Nvidia is always Samsung on GDDR7 and for GDDR6X they're always Micron.

>>105776423
It's not just 9070xt. It affects all RDNA cards. So even 7900xtx,6950xt,etc see fine wine aging.

>>105776372
How would you rate them from best to worst

>>105776316
>>105776452
AMD bulk orders the GDDR chips to get the most favorable deals and sells the VRAM + GPU as a set to AIBs.
I think AIBs order the rest of the board components (including PCB and cooler).

>>105776481
LG 1st
MSI G2712F 2nd
ASUS 3rd
the rest aren't worth ranking

>>105776466
>It affects all RDNA cards
Yet you can't post a proof to this claim.

>>105776507
All RDNA cards use the same .DLL driver on Windows. The ones before RDNA use a different driver.
On Linux they all use the same RADV driver too.
You can verify it yourself.

>>105776530
RDNA cards of different generations have different chip architectures.
They don't benefit from the changes the same.
It's on you to prove this is incorrect.

huh

>>105776550
Each GPU chip can contain various hardware blocks (also known as IP blocks), and each of those are separately versioned. We usually refer to hardware generations by the main version number of the GFX (graphics) hardware block.

Each hardware generation has different chips which usually only have minor differences between each other, such as number of compute units and different minor versions of some IP blocks. We refer to each chip by the code name of its first release, and we don’t differentiate between refreshes of the same chip, because they are functionally exactly the same.

Alternatives to the lian li a3(similar or smaller size) that doesn't look hideous?

>>105776550
You are dumb. Check the drivers.

>>105776562
The CUs in RDNA1/2/3 are all different to RDNA4.
You can't cope this away.

>9070 xt is supposed to be delivered today
>check tracking
>delayed

>>105776576
If you're so smart, prove it.
These are the drivers you need to use to prove that the performance gains trickled down to older RDNA cards.
>Review Driver: Adrenalin 25.3.1
>Latest Driver: Adrenalin 25.6.3

>>105776530
>All RDNA cards use the same .DLL driver on Windows
mostly correct
all AMD cards use AMDVLK as their vulkan driver
RDNA2 and below use SCPC as their shader compiler, while RDNA3 and above use the industry standard LLVM
(SCPC and LLVM are both pretty slow, ACO on linux is ~60% faster)
for DX9/DX11 RDNA cards use DXNavi, while GCN cards use an older, slower driver

t. knower

>>105776611

>>105776580
>>105776594
Why can't you read or check the actual drivers

>>105776629
Because he's a stupid ESL that wants to ragebait and fight. He has no interest in learning. He called mesa devs (and devs) official response "cope" like a stupid cunt.

>>105776629
Because it says fuck all.
Drivers don't change the GPU's hardware.

>>105776646
Yeah you're a stupid fuck. Learn to read. Learn to research. Learn to talk.

>>105776644
Fixed.

Yeah AMD aging like fine wine.

>>105776648
Lashing out like this won't change your GPU architecture to RDNA4's.
Cope on. I know you have at least 800 reasons to do so.

Do everyone a favor and prove that I'm wrong.
These are the drivers you need to use.
>Review Driver: Adrenalin 25.3.1
>Latest Driver: Adrenalin 25.6.3

>>105776556
That's 360mm2 of silicon performing like a (4090) 609mm2 one with double vram bandwidth

>>105776656
Are you Romanian?

>>105776662
Why do you have this autistic shit saved, why are you trying to fight people online at 9am/9pm, this is shit kids in school do not grown ass 40+ year old adults, get help from a doctor IRL

>>105776497
Sorry asking for more but what if we include
MSI G244PF E2
ASUS TUF Gaming VG249Q3R
ASUS TUF Gaming VG249Q1R
BENQ MOBIUS EX240N

>>105776715
the only thing that's going to beat that 27" is a mini LED IPS or an OLED
these are all the same shades of slop

>>105776725
The MSI G27?

>>105776712
Because people like you who make unfounded claims shouldn't taint the conversation.

Now, do everyone a favor and prove that I'm wrong.
Show everyone you're the smart guy.

These are the drivers you need to use.
>Review Driver: Adrenalin 25.3.1
>Latest Driver: Adrenalin 25.6.3

>STILL nothing worth upgrading from a 3080 to
holy shit

>>105776765
im on 3080ti, it honestly feels like im gonna be stuck waiting 3 years for 6080super

>>105776765
isn't that the point of buying a high end card?

>>105776728

>>105776827

9070xt just keeps winning

well I guess Nvidia still has CUDA
and their fake pixel upscaling is still better

>>105776979
and their dlss2/3 in old games moat

>>105777134
optiscaler exists so that's no longer an edge

How much lower it/s are Radeon cards compared to Nvidia? If they aren't competitive and have value there, then I'm not buying.

>>105777190
no one mines on GPUs anymore

>>105777206
Stable Diffusion not crapto

There’s a lot less reason to buy a GeForce card for gaming than before if you’re not planning to spend above $1,000. 5080 16GB looking even worse.

The neural texture and other new AI features are years away from being adopt ed by the game development industry.

What should I buy for gaming if the 1080 is gonna be EOL due to losing driver support?

I want to get a P40 for the 24GB RAM for SillyTavern and SDXL / illustrious, the 1080 was actually decent for ST with an 8b model but I gotta step up from SD 1.5. I don't want to spend £600+ on a 3090 and do everything on one card.

Should I get a newer Radeon or a 20-series? I've seen mixed anecdotes on whether P40 and RTX drivers get along so maybe an AMD card doesn't care as long as it's the primary display GPU, idk. The only games I really play are GTA V, the valve source games, unity games and atlus ports. I don't play new triple A shit.

Can anyone find AI / stable diffusion benchmarks comparing the 5070 Ti to the 5060 Ti 16GB?

>>105772473
It's beginning to make sense

how much will the super 50 series refresh be

>>105777422
Price: extortionate
Availability: lol, lmao even

>>105777422
Expect at least $100~200 higher compared to the non-Super models (not accounting for AIB scalped prices).

>>105773525
What's a better alternative for large HD drives?

>>105777553
western digital always

>>105776935
The Nvidia schizo went quiet with this one.
>"Muh 5070ti is faster than a 7900xtx/9070xt"
Lawl

newegg delivered my 9070 xt to the wrong address....

I have this prebuilt.
https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_T5_26AMR5/Lenovo_Legion_T5_26AMR5_Spec.pdf

My version came with a 1TB NVMe.

According to above
> it has a 2nd NVMe drive
> both NVMe slots are only "up to 1TB"

Could the 1TB limit be an error on their part, due to the original NVMe drive only being 1TB?

>>105776935
Imagine believing that nonsense. Not even AMD marketing ever made such claim. Shameless cope of Radeon trannies at work there.

>>105777716
Yeah i think it means that 1tb is the max that the prebuilt is outfitted with. There's no TB limit for nvme afaik so you could fill those with 8tb ssds now or 16tb+ ssds in future

>>105776304
And shorter life expectancy.

>>105777760
>he doesnt know

Going to move the 5070 Ti to the omission section in the next OP.

>>105775912
> Review drivers
> 119-116 = 3fps = 4.16% difference
AFAIR 5070 Ti was ahead 7% in raster and even 21% in RT. Something is very VERY fishy here!

>>105777760
>Imagine believing that nonsense.

>>105777716
Capacity limits on NVMe slots aren't an actual thing, it's just PCIe in another form factor. It's just the capacity of the drives it's sold with (they have to write "up to" for legal reasons because the full 1TB isn't actually usable, partition tables and such take a few kB).

>>105776116
What about the PHILIPS Evnia 27M2N8500AM?

>>105777779
I see, thanks. I was under the impression there could be a limit set in the firmware for some stupid reason.

>>105777553
TOSHIBA for the win!

I would have regretted buying any GPU but the RTX 5090

>>105777916
I think that's the QD-OLED monitor one of the Euro monitor anons returned, something about annoying panel cleaning notification.

>>105777956
I never regretted buying the 4090. Two and a half years of pure bliss now!

First time building a PC on my own how am I doing?

€200 for a motherboard feels a little much but I don't know which board to get that's cheaper.

I'm considering going for 2x32gb RAM but the teamgroup kit isn't available in my region. What brand/model should I look at instead?

>>105777909
Oh that's annoying. They should just list the technical specs.

We need new thread

Next:
>>105777989
>>105777989
>>105777989

>>105778018
This thread could've lasted longer, but I posted a new one to make some updates.

>>105777990
that cooler looks way too weak for 400w

is this scam?
https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005009067734176.html?sku_id=12000047800075812&sort=1
its way cheaper, wanna buy 7500f

>>105773525
what's wrong with them?
i have 2 x 16tb in my linux machine, they've been doing fine for 4 years now

>>105778399
should I buy it?

>>105778949
Depends on your risk tolerance.
Check reviews and other online sources confirming that the shop sells legit CPUs.

motherboard from e-bay, third hand (used-used)
cpu from aliexpress
PSU 650W from trash
GPU from the neighbour (rx 580)
an actually new 32gb ddr5 ram
chinese m2 ssd 256 gb
Pc case from 2000s HP office
how screwed am I as a thirdie?

>>105777995
Looks good, if you're going for Win 10 choose the B650M instead, otherwise no wifi and bluetooth. If you don't care about that or going with Win 11 the board you've chosen is better since it has pcie 5.0 16x.