Thread 105775665

30 June has come and Chrome's Manifest v2 is no more.

>Vivaldi on track to end Manifest v2 per latest announcement
>Brave news is exclusively NFT shilling with no clear statement.
>Microshit turned it off ages ago
>Firefox still winning

Will Chromefags stop updating like the Windows 7 fags until everything stops working?
Will someone fork Chromium like Palemoon to keep it stuck in 2023 forever?

LONG LIVE FIREFOX
CHROMEFAGS ETERNALLY BTFO

Brave doesn't have this problem.

>>105775763
even then they can just provide third party support for parts of v2 required for ublock on their own

>>105775665 (OP)
Switched from Firefox to Chrome because Firefox sucks balls.
Tried Firefox again and I switched to Brave because Firefox still sucks even to this date.

Brave is barely tolerable with the bloatware disabled. There's still some bloatware you cannot disable or hide like Web3 nonsense.

Let's just be honest here. The only reason all this Manifest V2 drama is because of one extension. uBlock Origin. Everyone just wants to block ads on YouTube.

>>105775665 (OP)
>>Brave news is exclusively NFT shilling with no clear statement.
Are you retarded or ignorant? Or both at the same time.

https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/

>>105775940
>news
>Jun 27, 2024

Every single Chromium fork will get rid of V2 support sooner or later since basically none of them are committed enough to keep maintaining V2 support against Chromium head.

>>105775949
It's a fucking statement, from 2024 that hasn't changed and relevant to the topic of this thread. Trannyfox users doing Trannyfox things.

>>105775911
Chromium besides being fast and with less bugs sucks balls so much.
Cannot even export cookies, you have to close the browser each time. Gallery-dl is unusable with chromium.

>>105775940
>https://brave.com/blog/
They don't even have a section dedicated to the Brave Browser lol. Nothing but ZCASH WALLET and FREE CRYPTO DOMAINS.

>>105775968
Brave's rust-based adblocker uses uBlock filter lists anyway. Vivaldi has a built in adblocker as well and the rest of the extensions I use have been updated to support Manifest V3.

Firefox market share is shrinking every year anyway.

>>105775996
Think of brave as polished chromium with the basic bugs solved and a baked in adblocker that just works, that's it. Remember to disable anything if they ever force it by default.

I would still use firefox if it didn't objectively suck.

>>105776016
Yeah. You can disable AI, VPN, Wallet. Rewards, Tor with a group policy. For Web3 you can disable in settings, unfortunately there's no policy for that, but it doesn't get in the way.

https://support.brave.app/hc/en-us/articles/360039248271-Group-Policy

Firefox has this same nonsense still where you need to tweak shit, because default settings are just pure garbage.

>>105776066
To be honest with you I always check the settings of every software I install so this was never an issue for me.
Brave has a miniscule amount of things to toggle off by default.

>>105775665 (OP)
manifest v2 is still active I believe... ?

>>105776195
Until Chrome 139. So you have time till the end of the month if you have that ExtensionManifestV2Availability policy.

>>105776066
>with a group policy

With all the adblocker faggots moving to Firefox it will be easy for web devs to just block Firefox and user agent changes don't work because Brave uses the Chrome user agent and sites like lobste.rs still detect and block it.

>>105776066
Any checklist for firefox? I want to make sure mine are fine

>>105776310
Exactly. Better than nothing though. You can go the registry route as well if you want. A toggle or fucking asking you if you want that crap would be the best of course.

>>105775665 (OP)
there's too much money to be had in wasting your time online
it was only a matter of time before the gatekeepers made an imbalanced compromise of giving you a free option across, with the caveat that they fuck you senseless as you walk across the bridge
manifest v3 is a defensive strategy from google that disproportionately benefits them because of how massive their ad network is compared to competitors, and despite this, it somehow isn't antitrust
it's all bullshit
firefox and mozilla are both terrible messes, but they're at least still appear to be user-first, although it's not clear how long that will last

>>105776341
Mainly this I guess: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop-browsers/#firefox

And more in about:config for extra autism.

>>105776358
Not forcing Google to sell Chrome is a big mistake.

>>105775665 (OP)
UG still supports it and they are talking about integration of an ad blocker.

>>105776066
>You need to edit group policy of your OS to decrapify your browser
Ooooooof

>>105776066
How do you do this on Linux? I don't have a Group Policy.

>>105776508
scroll down, theres a linux section

>>105776387
seems that I was actually good, thanks
>Mullvad browser
should I use this for my fap sessions instead?

>>105776349
>A toggle or fucking asking you if you want that crap would be the best of course.
It literally has toggles for every single thing you listed. And most of them are presented directly to you when you install the browser.

>>105776561
I don't want to see them in the settings listed too.

[spoiler]what's a group policy[/spoiler]

>>105776538
Well, it's just a FF fork. Probably Mullvad is the same level as LibreWolf.

>>105776015
>Brave's rust-based adblocker uses uBlock filter lists anyway.
yet is somehow shittier than ublock, cope more lion shill.

I don't even know what a manifest is

GNOME WEB doesn't have this problem

>>105776654
Never had any issues with it. It works just as good as uBlock Origin. Never seen any ads on YouTube with it, so it is good in my book. I can update all filter lists at the same time whenever I want.

I remember last year when YouTube started introducing the anti-adblock scripts, uBO removed the ability to have one click updates for filter lists. Now you need to click the refresh button for each category. Dumbass move.

So I'm just fine with Brave and every single TrannyFox user should hang themselves, including (You).

>>105776654
>yet is somehow shittier
Surely you have proof for that claim?

>>105776688
https://youtu.be/PeihcfYft9w?si=lmHIXcUczDHh480l&t=16

>>105776592
Microsoft Registry Pro(TM), for users who paid extra to pirate Windows Ulimate

I just use qutebrowser...

>>105775665 (OP)
Still works on my Unjewggle Chromium.

>>105776654
Firefox had popup blockers for more than 20 years. Why can't they make a built in adblocker too? Oh wait. They are incompetent.

What did ads ever do to you?
Remember how fun it was to play the Shoot the iPhone to Win flash banner?
All we ever wanted to do was give you a FREE Apple iPhone 3G.
You really were the 100,000th visitor, and you washed us all away.
Like tears in the rain.
I hope you all rot, with no Apple iPhone 3G.

>>105776705
I know it's worse because I've seen my fair share of adblockers in my time. I can tell from the pixels.

>>105776905
Nobody cares what opinion you have and what you seen or didn't.

>>105776697
Hard to have a problem when you don't have features

>>105776989
>being this new

>>105776757
Not for long.

>>105775996
If they gave half a shit about their scamware, it wouldn't look and work like a chrome skin.

>>105777001
Use case for "features"?

>>105776066
Easy mode: don't install that shitware at all, stop getting wrangled by Indian marketers.

>>105777084
Ok

>>105776015
>Brave's rust-based adblocker uses uBlock filter lists anyway.
Mv3 causes many filters to be dropped at conversion time due to its limited syntax, creating your own filters is iffy at best, the element picker is a joke, it doesn't support per-site switches or dynamic filtering. By its nature, brave's ad blocker can't compete with ublock origin, since ublock origin isn't just a dumb list of blocked urls.

>>105775665 (OP)
>LONG LIVE FIREFOX
Mozilla will drop v2 support in due course.

>LONG LIVE FIREFOX
Mozilla will drop v2 support in jew course.

>>105777013
Why? They will update for v3 manifest.

>>105777084
How can you say Chrome has features when it doesn't even support a single Free Toolbar?

>>105775665 (OP)
Holy fuck, I am the 100th visitor??

>>105777209
Outta the loop huh

>>105776757
Mine still working on my full on botnet chrome.

>>105776334
I forgot how absolutely insane that guy is.
Brave spoof their user-agent for lobsters and the he's still seething about

>>105776334
Kek, just checked it out and it's hilarious how much that guy is butthurt about a "scam" that didn't happen anywhere except in his own mind.

>>105775911
HOLD THE LINE

>>105775665 (OP)
>Brave news is exclusively NFT shilling with no clear statement
they don't even advertise their own crypto shit anymore. It's turned off by default. Also its adblocker is immune to mv3 bs.
>>Microshit turned it off ages ago
mv2 uBO still works on it.
>>Firefox still winning
Sub 3% marketshare isn't winning, anon.

Why the drama? Don't Chromiumfags have ublock lite?

>>105777217
They won't.

>>105776195
>>105776246
>>105776757
specifically August 5
https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/develop/migrate/mv2-deprecation-timeline#march_31st_2025_an_update_on_manifest_v2_phase-out
https://chromiumdash.appspot.com/schedule

>>105778983
Why not?

>>105780824
Because it doesn't work.

>>105780844
ublock origin lite?
Or can they patch Chrome to provide necessary functionality?

>>105775763
absolutely, it's problem is the nft crypto mindrot implemented directly into the browser

>>105780901
Lite is the only uBlock experience going forwards on Chrome.

I doubt anyone's gonna go through the effort to maintain V2 functionality in Chromium, since Google will continue developing the codebase without V2 support, so developers will have to continuously evaluate on how to keep it working as incompatible changes are pushed.

>it's another muh brave vs firefox thread
Why can't you just use more than one browser? Anybody who isn't a retard already does that.

>>105775665 (OP)
why is everyone shitting on firefox so hard in this thread?
I've been using it for a decade and have never had any problems with it
I purposefully live under a rock because pop culture, politics, the latest drama, etc is gay and retarded, so please, enlighten me

>>105775665 (OP)
>Vivaldi on track to end Manifest v2 per latest announcement
last version to support it?

>>105776079
you're like me

>>105776876
>What did ads ever do to you?
doubleclick is literally full of malware

>>105775763
You shills are pathetic.
>le adblock built in
Why is this such a big sellpoint for you fags. Was installing adblock ever difficult?

>>105775665 (OP)
>>Microshit turned it off ages ago
No? uBO still installs and works fine.

>>105776016
Never heard a reason for why Firefox "objectively sucks". Works fine on my machine.

>>105781618
every single one of my user scripts works instantly and without bugs or unexpected behaviors on chromium
developed them over the years for firefox and every single issue was instantly gone as I moved from it, amazed at the speed overall

>>105781582
it unironically is for them

>>105781582
Well, it is now.

>>105776697
I tried gnome web a few times and there were two main reasons I went back to Firefox.
1. No extensions. At a bare minimum I need ublock and bitwarden
2. Scrolling was really painful. It would only scroll a few lines at a time and was really slow. In Firefox I can get to the bottom of the catalogue immediately but on gnome web I had to spam the scroll wheel over and over.

>>105775665 (OP)
>>105775940
>>105775996
>>105776538
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WE WILL BEHEAD ALL CUMSKINS AND THROW ALL HARAM TRANNY SHIA DOGS MOZILLA EMPLOYEES OFF FROM THE TOP OF THEIR BUILDING AND REPLACE WITH A HALAL BROWSER SUPPORTED BY SUNNI ISLAMIC STATE
US SUNNI CHADS WILL BEHEAD THAT KIKE LOVER BRENDAN FAGGOT AND TAKE OVER BRAVE AS THE OFFICIAL HALAL BROWSER
INSHALLAH
SUNNI ISLAM WORLDWIDE 2050

The upcoming months are going to be amusing. Will Google start autistically blocking Firefox even harder? Will Firefox finally rise in usage? Will more Firefox forks start popping up?

>>105775665 (OP)
>Zen/LibreWolf for desktop
>IronFox for smartphone
Rate me.

you don't understand. updooters really need killer features such as:
>a higher version number

>>105781618
I won't even go into detail regarding their woke shit, censorship efforts and "combating ((hate speech))" shit, it's been done to death. They burned me with removing the ability of disabling autoplaying videos, slowly moving it to "it will play anyway but muted" NO I DON'T WANT VIDEOS TO AUTOPLAY AT ALL UNLESS I'M ON A VIDEO PLATFORM, FAGGOTS!!!

>>105775665 (OP)
Anon can you explain the significance between manifest v2 and v3?

>>105786890
did they? must have been recently

>>105775665 (OP)
Works in Microsoft Edge, they haven't even given a deprecation timeline yet. So there's still plenty of time to go.

>>105787780
it was almost a decade ago. maybe they reverted it since then

>>105788197
retard

>>105787353
The significance is that all the major ad blockers rely upon information given to them by the browser (permissions) with manifest v3, that information is now not given out. Google says it's to improve security but considering they are the largest advertising company in the world, the fact it breaks all ad blockers makes it rather convenient.

I'm not ready for uBlock Origin without the element hider

>>105780913
disable it by using policies.

>>105775665 (OP)
just don't update senpai. I haven't updated Windows 11 since I installed it. I have blocked everyone of Microsoft's telemetry and automatic updater services via firewall. Same for Google Chrome. Until something breaks I will not update, sorry just not gonna happen. I use my PC for very simple uses. 1. torrenting absurd amounts of Japanese anime. 2. Shit posting online. I don't need copilot or the like to do so.

>>105775665 (OP)
>Brave news
Who tf cares about Brave news?
I think less than 1% of people using Brave ever opened Brave news.

>>105776484
You can do it without group policy but then you'll still see them in the settings menu...

>>105777161
What does Brave's adblocker have to do with Manifest V3? It's not an extension.

>>105776016
>>105776066
>unfucks default Brave settings
>ends up where Ungoogled Chromium already is
What even is the use case for Brave?

>>105789873
>ends up where Ungoogled Chromium already is
https://privacytests.org/


Also you're not going to be able to install uBlock origin on Ungoogled Chromium when Manifest V2 dies but Brave's adblock will continue to function as normal because it doesn't rely on Manifest V2.

>>105789801
I don't care

>>105789873
how it would be possible to end up where ungoogled chromium is? you would have to purposefully compile your own brave and brick it good, fuck everything up

>>105789837
It's a simple block list, it lacks features even ublock lite has.

>>105776066
>downloading a Group Policy template is LE BAD!
>downloading a third-party about:config on the internet to unfuck Firefox is le good, ackshually
Gotta love the hypocrisy in the replies, lmao

>>105790534
If they don't want to download the template they can just use the registry editor to manage these settings.

>>105780964
Dunno if you're still here but if you want a genuine answer: For the longest time Firefox has always been in support for freedom of browsing and being a platform that respects it's users privacy, and has built a good community from it

But then a bit ago they put out a new update to their policy and basically were like 'yeah we know we've been privacy based for the longest time but now we're gonna start taking your browser's information for more "data research" but don't worry bout it it's all peachy keen kay?'

So they're starting to take any data you have and use it to send to god knows where, and I've heard some people say that disabling telemetry works and some that say it still sends it even when disabled, I haven't confirmed myself yet.

So if you're someone that really cares about your data getting sent to others, might wanna consider either Zen (Firefox based, still beta) or Brave, but if you don't care about telemetry stuff then it's probably nothing for you

>>105790596
That would be more hypocrisy according to the hypocrite.

>>105790951
Isn't Zen an aesthetics focused fork to look like Arc or Safari, rather than a non-Spyware one like Librewolf/Arkenfox/Icecat? If your concern is telemetry, use an explicitly tinfoil hat build, not a "web browsers look just eww, let's make it chic!" build.
Am I missing something here?
Reminds me of projects like Rockmelt, Chrome plus a Facebook/MSN Messenger sidebar, that no way in hell was ungoogled. The focus was eating into Pidgin/Trillian/eBuddy's market share, not protecting you from Spyware.

>>105790534
No, downloading your remedial piece of shit chrome skin is bad. You're a complete fuckup, sort yourself out.

>>105778963
That's a severely crippled version, they shouldn't be compared at all.

>>105789771
kek, can't wait for you to get all your data held up by a ransomware

retard

>>105781582
On an iPhone it is because you can't install adblockers yourself I think.
Outside of an iPhone? Lol. Even on Android, Firefox has uBlock Origin.

>>105788197
Fucking imbecile.

This might be a stupid question but why doesn't ublock just make their own browser at this point? I go where ublock goes, simple as, and I'm not the only one like that.

>>105794266
unfortunately, Gorhill is a lazy fuck. There's been so much fucking drama from just updating his extensions. Now imagine making a browser fork.