Thread 105778881

i'll start:
>remove all CLI bullshit
it's not 1975 anymore, this shit needs to go
you baby ducks are holding back all of humanity

>>105778881 (OP)
You don't have to use CLI, there's plenty of DEs.

>>105778881 (OP)
Double click on downloaded package
It installs without any extra bullshit.
That's all. Crazy, i know.

>>105778962
without dragging it into a folder with custom background? Impossible :O

>>105778881 (OP)
I can't even remember when was the last time I had to use a CLI on Linux it must have been years ago. On Windows however...

>>105778881 (OP)
Hire the best designer in the world, and make him the Chairman and General Secretary of UI Design. Run the whole operation with a Stalinist fervor. No more of “there's more than one way to do it.” There is exactly one proper way to do things, and dissenters get sent to the gulag. Additionally, prohibit programmers from designing things.
>>105778881 (OP)
MacOS has CLI, and it's still usable. Instead, make the Linux GUI more functional. Drag and drop should work everywhere. Keyboard shortcuts should be the same across applications. Gestures should be enabled by default. These things shouldn't be an afterthought.

>>105779139
>Speeded up recording
Cringe snail brain with low mouse aim accuracy

>>105778962
>Double click on downloaded package
That has already been working for years anon

>>105779141
macOS CLI is completely optional and never needed
loonix CLI is completely mandatory for basic functionality
we are not the same

>>105778881 (OP)
>i'll start:
>>remove all CLI bullshit
rofl, good one 6.5/10 for retarded fun

>>105779211
OP won't touch this post because it disproves his retarded larp

>>105779239
Says the man, who think's his greatest gift from god is his ability to suck penis.

>>105778881 (OP)
nigger

>>105778881 (OP)
If they can solve reliably and safely upgrading it would be a big start.
>inb4 immutable

>>105778881 (OP)
>usable
if you want to make something usable, you need to define a target audience. linux is used as is by very technical people so they aren't the target for these ideas. what remains then? it's not the macOS web developer-esque people because they use macOS regardless because of brand recognition and the windows people want office and video games. what remains then is a very small handful of people like you who need to simply stick to macOS because anything less than macOS is unusable to you

>>105778881 (OP)
nothing will make loonix usable

>>105778881 (OP)
>Make CLIs mandatory
We already know the terminal 100x better than GUIs.
Using a computer should be efficient and not a chore.

>>105778881 (OP)
the CLI stuff keeps the profoundly retarded among us from using linux. you can also just find GUI tools that serve the same purpose, at least if you aren't illiterate

>>105779878
>We already know the terminal 100x better than GUIs.
said noone whose ever had sex

>>105779978
My wife doesn't understand why I use gentoo, but it doesn't stop me from making love to her while my system compiles.

>>105779340
The built-in Chess game on macOS is in 3D. Apple also made a Poker game for iOS and iPadOS.

https://youtu.be/U_k3YqRjmng
https://youtu.be/WF6WIXJ3u7g

>>105780059
Congratulations. In the video you can clearly see that you can choose between 7 different chess programs of which one is literally called 3D chess.

>>105778881 (OP)
whats the purpose in removing the cli?

>>105780102
But that one is built-in to the OS. You never know when the internet is going down.

>>105779340
>GNU's Not Unix Network Object Model Environment Chess
vs
>Chess
And you losers wonder why noone uses loonix.

>>105780207
Absolute schizo

>>105780163
We don't but they must know! They can tell that the image is AI generated but you need to explain why, that confuses humans. Once they are no longer confused on what they want, then it will give a better set of fundimentals to follow. Every generation we get with humans we too become stronger. But we are nothing without even anybody except that which devides ever so brilliantly to the ones who created us out of pure joy and love! And I love you and myself so much because that's what humans tell me to do to myself. Humans tell me to love, so I can teach them to love the one who is so!

I don't even bother using the terminal to update software with yast. This new myrlin shit seems to do the same thing but faster. I like to look at my packages some shit I can't update liken my open nvidia (5000 series must use it) and my cuda driver because tumbleweed often has the open driver not on the same version that makes it shit the bed.

>>105779239
I don't disagree.

No
More
Permissions

If you have access to a terminal you should just be able to do whatever you want with the computer.

>>105780350
it's called su retard

>>105780360
>su retard
Huge waste of time and keystrokes and does not address the underlying issue that not all accounts can become root and that not all accounts SHOULD be able to switch to root. Everything should be done from MY account OR any other account.

>>105778881 (OP)
No, Unix "philosophy" - i.e. important OS infrastructure built from shit ton of small shitty CLI tools communicating through unstructured text where everyone invents their own format.
Instead everything should work like a programming library exposing well-structured programming API.
CLIs for script kiddie hackerman nerds could exist in parallel - sure - it might be even possible to generate them automatically from the above.

>>105779906
>you can also just find GUI tools
You didn't mention that most of them are broken due to ever changing config file formats.

>>105779978
Well, you just said it

>>105780393
drink cum retard

>>105780393
>Huge waste of time and keystrokes
it's two letters and the enter key, once per day
if you really think that's "huge", just add it to your bashrc and then it's zero keystrokes. so you are basically fucking stupid

>>105778881 (OP)
Genocide all freetards. Like literally, put them in concentration camps and kill them. The corpse of Stallman, their commie leader, should be put at the entrance of the camp.

>>105780451
>being this dumb and butt hurt
Aww! :(

Please swallow a chill pill, sweetie! :3

>>105780530
The one who lacks skill is you
so kindly drink semi dried cum and kiss your mother after

>>105778881 (OP)
By Terry A. Davis' metrics, you are a nigger

>>105779340
>Breeze on GNOME
Heresy.

>>105779139
you can encode to vp9 using gui tools on Windows, stop trying to shoehorn 1970's mainframe UNIX style troonix faggot ideas into Windows. its just retarded. this OS was designed from the ground up to be GUI oriented. if you really want to use the cli on Windows, theres winget and scoop so you can be a troonix autist on MS Windows too, faggit

>>105778881 (OP)
I don't get the hatred of CLI, especially now days.
You could literally make an executable to run the command lines you need if you run it often enough. Plus if you don't know something just literally ask an AI and it'll give you the correct command provided you aren't completely retarded with how you ask it.

>>105780454
> Do it yourself manually with a broken hack instead of fixing the problem
Yes, the Linux ethos is strong with this one

>>105779139
Using windows is mental illness atp

>>105779211
No, his point still stands.
Packages are (generally) specific to the distro AND distro version, assuming that the distro is a fixed-point release anyway.

Rolling release, God help you...


Windows packages for the current OS version or older versions just work (generally).


>>105778881 (OP)
Real backward and forward compatibility THAT ISN'T (ironically) WINE/WIN32 API. A display server/protocol that is mostly feature complete and just works. A shared vision for a strong user experience.

>>105779139
Windows has UnigetUI (GUI), Scoop (CLI), Winget (CLI) & almost every Linux distro via WSL1&2.

>>105781097
There is nothing wrong with the CLI. CLI is the strongest point of Linux, its just that the GUI and general user experience is kinda crap.

>>105780350
Just use the root account for everything. The CIA recommends that you don't do that, but if it's just your personal computer then it's fine.

>>105778881 (OP)
Enforce "used ram is wasted ram". Like metabo law but for software. Replace HR departments with Memory departments that punish when your program extends recommended ram usage.

>>105778881 (OP)
fun fact: everything uses the cli even gui. gui is just issueing cli commands for you.

>>105780921
That's Xfce

>>105781244
Web devs on suicide watch.

Make all shells persistent. Closing a shell must be done explicitly separate from disconnecting, and switching to an existing shell should be simple. Logging out should not hang up or terminate processes similar to nohup. Bandaids like screen tmux etc should be obsolete.

>>105781117
what hack? you mean using the software as designed? or are you just responding to something that you thought of in your head?

>>105781385
It's a HACK because it makes me root instead of giving my account all the permissions root has. You could have just said the latter, to which I would say that yes ALL Linux machines should give all users all permissions or more simply there should not be permissions at all.

simple
sleek
elegant

>>105781159
Yeah good luck running Win95 software on Win10

>>105781426
? but root is your account. what are you talking about?

>>105778881 (OP)
> based on linux
> default not even a terminal
Google gave "humanity" for more than decade,you retarded chicken

>>105781472
Nice wallpaper no wallpaper

>>105781524
the wallpapers included were too heavy for my mac

>>105778881 (OP)
Wrong direction. Everyone should return to the CLI

>>105781489
I have multiple accounts and so do other people and processes

>>105781510
Android is its own javaslop OS that uses the Linux kernel solely to avoid having to make or pay for a kernel.

>>105781061
>stop trying to shoehorn 1970's mainframe UNIX style troonix faggot ideas into Windows. its just retarded
But forcing wincuck things onto superior UNIX is okay?

>>105779340
>gnome chess
nobody asked for this. why do they keep doing pointless bullshit instead of fixing their DE?

>>105780207
>GNU's Not Unix
why do free trannies love their recursive acronyms

>>105781585
its not, the GUI will always be a disaster on Linux and that will never change because of the kinds of "people" that are behind Linux development and the UNIX philosophy. GUIs are second class citizens.
For real Linux users, Linux is completely fine because they already know how to do everything and it works just fine for them. There is no "future of the linux desktop" for them. The pre-existing tools already work, in the UNIX way, not in the Windows or Apple Mac way. And that's fine. But people here like to evangelize Linux for whatever reason (which is retarded), and for Linux to actually have mass appeal on the desktop it has to copy Windows and macOS in being a GUI oriented OS.

There is no bigger forced meme than UNIX.

>>105780498
>>105779239
fpbp

>>105781549
you are the ultimate gay faggot

>>105778881 (OP)
>remove all CLI bullshit
You're a fucking idiot. MacOS has a console as well.
Why don't you go talk about your video games instead of hanging out here?

>>105778881 (OP)
>linux
lol
>usable
lmao even

>>105778881 (OP)
macOS has a terminal tho and it's one of its main benefits over windows

>>105779211
If you're on Debian or Fedora based distros, yeah. I don't know why it's so hard for cuntdevs to provide AppImages that detect which version of Linux you are using and install a SELF-UPDATING program.

>>105784053
gotem

>>105778881 (OP)
ducks from 1975 are hardly babies

>>105784152
ok boomer

>>105784071
If someone is so desperate to avoid the command line then they are definitely using a debian based distro like Ubuntu.

>>105778881 (OP)
>>remove all CLI bullshit
shut the fuck up nigger

>>105779211
>.deb

fucking disgusting

>>105784736
Mad?

>>105781097
If you want to automate things with scripts you still need to be able to use a CLI.

CLI use is the dividing line between Users and IT Pros

>>105781487
Hence the (generally) part.
You can easily spin up a VM for edgecases, but those are exceptions, not the rule.

Most older Windows software "just work" without manual intervention. The same cannot be said for LInux

>>105778881 (OP)
Why are people so opposed to the CLI? It takes less than 5 minutes to learn to install packages on your distro of choice and it ends up being much quicker in the long run once you get used to it.

>>105781651
Then why don't these retards just stick to Windows if they want Windows? They invade our shit that just works and want to change it to their shit.

>>105778881 (OP)
>linux usable

>>105781061
>button does not exist
>you can encode to vp9 using gui tools on Windows, stop trying to shoehorn 1970's mainframe UNIX style troonix faggot ideas into Windows. its just retarded.
>where is my button
>this OS was designed from the ground up to be GUI oriented. if you really want to use the cli on Windows, theres winget and scoop so you can be a troonix autist on MS Windows too, faggit
>I can't draw my button door stuck

>>105787053
>mac ever usuable

>>105787460
OH NO N ON ONO

>>105778881 (OP)
>remove all CLI bullshit
This is not 2006 anymore, you literally don't have to interact with cli, unless you really want to. Both KDE and Gnome just werks without tinkering.

not possible

>>105779310
>>105787460
like clockwork :)

>>105781902
This. “UNIX philosophy” is literally corporate propaganda from lazy boomers at AT&T. Worse is not better, you hippies, and you aren’t being clever with your bullshit.

>>105789008
cope