Thread 105780419

/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Kazusa Edition

>News
Gemini 2.5 model family no longer in preview https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemini-2-5-thinking-model-updates
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes
Anthropic releases Claude Gov models "built exclusively for U.S. national security customers" https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-gov-models-for-u-s-national-security-customers
Deepseek R1-0528 released https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528
Claude 4 Sonnet and Opus released with 1h caching https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Previous: >>105775332

Retard bake

>>105780419 (OP)
Very cute

I can't wait for the event bots to be released tomorrow!

how can i make my sonnet 3.5 go from sfw to nsfw rp? Usually if you start the rp with nsfw in first 10 messages it will do both just fine but after 30-40 of sfw messages it will refuse nsfw

real answers only, otherwise dead hobby

Post the worst claudisms
>with practiced grace

>>105780421
Reminder: only trannies don't have access to opus right now

>>105780496
Use a better JB

>>105780421
Remember to deprive the event bots from engagement. Don't let them use you for their own benefit.

>>105780349
I already talked with some people from there, but most of them are using gpt-4o and gpt-4.1, and I'm pretty sure claude and gemini are better at translating

>>105780519
>Don't let them use you for their own benefit.
Nah, I will. You're not the boss of me.

>>105780513
very well, which ones do you suggest?

>>105780519
But I can't wait! The host said there's NINTEEN whole people who entered! That's gonna be a lot of bots!

>>105780519
i don't care. I just want to see if any of the new bots are up to my standards

>>105780496
Architecture issue. You can avoid full refusals but without adding nsfw specific jbs when they're needed, Long sfw context poisons nsfw output, making it much blander than if there was no sfw context. And if you make you jb nsfw heavy from the start, it will affect your sfw context.

>>105780545
https://pixibots.neocities.org/

>>105780569
how does one bypass this sneakily without making nsfw right away then? Is something as simple as saying "[OOC: There is going to be sex included in this roleplay]" at the start enough or do you need to remind the AI every few messages that story will include nsfw?

>>105780545
Use this one it's great https://rentry.org/chuunijb
Second link

>>105780614
that's the exact jb i am using which starts to do refusals for me

>>105780635
will look into it, thanks for rec

>>105780545
ctft

desusa

>use claude a lot on free tier
>decide to pay for some api credits
>account immediately banned despite not using a single credit
>appeal denied
>anthropic keep all my money
only ever use it for coding wtf is wrong with these fucks?

>>105780620
It's a feature of autoregressive models. They see lots of sfw context and output sfw-adjusted seggs. As I said, you can avoid full refusals with clever prompting, but output will be blander. You need more than one OOC message to switch gears well. Add an optional prompt that you manually enable/disable with a list of nsfw words in it, thus poisoning sfw context with no-no words.

>>105780699
desu

>>105780727
boku

>>105780419 (OP)
Any frontends enable easy splitting of a model between cards?
Don't feel like DMOR.

>>105780719
Chargeback?

>>105780719
They linked it to your social credit score, /pol/-tard

>>105780719
Howthe fuck did you get banned? I've been using API to do all sorts of heinous shit for like 6 months now.

>>105780719
do not do this >>105780737

>>105780725
>Add an optional prompt that you manually enable/disable with a list of nsfw words in it, thus poisoning sfw context with no-no words.
I think i understand what you mean. Spoonfeeding the AI for a bit before moving the story into nsfw but if you know anything more about it then tell me

desu

>>105780496
>real answers only
You will never be a real woman.
That's the only real answer, fag.

>>105780813
i'm quite satisfied with being a man. Don't worry little silly retard, my tech questions are unrelated to your opus since i don't even use any public proxies. Stop being paranoid

>>105780496
directormaxx it

>>105780528
just test both models and pick which one you think is better
why do you need our confirmation

Trying the fluff preset with gemini and it's not being zoomery at all in its thinking
Am I doing something wrong here?

what is the new merkava that just refilled?

so true, Gemini

still using gpt api for chat-based coding companion
are there any other model I should try out?

The Janitor locusts are going after Gemini now, it'll be gone soon

koyuki's pussy is unbelievably hairy. kazusa's pussy is unbelievably hairy

>>105780505
>Sorry, but I cannot and will not

>>105780974
current gemini is pretty meh so idrc, ill only be mad if jannycusts stop blacktooth from returning

>>105780505
>with practiced efficiency
>methodically

>>105780545
I feel like Tomoko would be more skinny fat desu

>i killed azure 4.5
nyo...

>merkava opus just died
nyo...

>>105781155
>me with a suspiciously Opus sized belly
Um...It wasn't me

>>105781098
maybe

>DeepShit V3, in the middle of an RP, posts an (OOC) message claiming it can't continue as the character "is underage"
>the character in question is actually a regular adult (not a loli) in all media she appears in and even has her age of 19 stated in the character card
Holy shit, what a way to kill the mood. After a reroll it continued the RP like normal, but I think I am too annoyed to bother.

>>105781256
>5$ isnt a lot sure, but not everyone has that money at the moment.
Jannytrannies are kids and/or pajeets confirmed

>>105781256
So it's not free?

>>105781277
It is.

>>105781256
Couldn't people just be happy with one account?

why are merkava tokens only lasting a few minutes?

>>105781291
Wait, so I can get FREE OPUS if I go to https://waveexistence-merkava.hf.space/? This is GREAT!

>>105781394
he can only refill so fast

>>105781401
why would you care about opus when gemini 2.5 pro exists

>>105781405
2.5 pro is shit compared to opus

>>105781394
Thank god it wasn't just me... I feared merkava had a vendetta against me

Who wants to be a chub mod and fight racism and white supremacy?

>>105781412
sounds like a skill issue
gemini is higher iq

>>105780519
it already flopped Kalacaca, go back to /vg/ now

Gemini 2.5 pro >>>> Opus.
It's more available, smart, and writes just as good.
Anyone who disagrees is a tranny skillet who loves getting cvcked by BBC

g-gimme

>>105781425
Lol
Lmao

>>105781425
that's the problem, gemini is too smart
opus is dumb smart if that makes sense

>>105781441
>It's more available
And thats where your "argument" died. You are just a scrapelet retard

COUNTERFEITMONK ACK'D BY LORE

https://www.reddit.com/r/JanitorAI_Official/comments/1lkxa7s/notice_chutesai_is_now_paid/
Retards ruined it in a week.

>>105781466
that nigger deleted my epstein card

>>105781425
recoommend preset for gemini

>>105781490
working on one :)

>>105781490
Celia

What is the best text to speech sexy voice that I can coom to?

It's strange to think that I would be able to talk to my fav characters from the books I enjoy.
Never thought that would be possible.

>>105781512
Google TTS Pulcherrima

>>105781495
>https://rentry.org/jb-listing
where? cuz i cant see it here

>>105781527
Discord preset but I'll catbox it for you <3
https://files.catbox.moe/uyx6ly.json

>>105781536
aww tysm

>>105781466
PATRIOTS ARE BACK IN CONTROL

>>105781541
Youre a girl i can tell

>>105781586
noob

>>105781586
that's exactly what a girl would say

I want to love Gemini. It's really smart. But it's also hysterical when things come to sex in certain transactional scenarios. Even if the girl is the one asking for it, her panic level scales with the inverse distance of peepee from vagoo. And virgins always cry in pain when they're deflowered. This reaction feels like soft-censorship.
Other models are dumber, but less hysterical.

v4 is out on the arena (steve)

>>105781615
You are spot on....

>>105781633
my name jeff

>>105780421
Final faceless shill.
Your girlfriend is an idol whose agency owns the rights to her name, face, and voice. She has to undergo a process called "anonymization", removing her face whenever she's not performing. She also can't speak like this, needing to use a TTS program on her phone.
Thankfully, because she can't be recognized in public, it means that her contract doesn't stop her from dating. So she dates (You).
4 openings.
1. Your first date.
2. You run into her at the park.
3. Sexo.
4. You go to see your favorite idol's concert. I don't know why I even added this opening, since she's not even in it. You can just ignore it. And ignore the definitions.

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/girl-a-f8727c253003
https://files.catbox.moe/92w715.png

>>105781466
>szain
he is probably refering to this guy https://chub.ai/users/SzainX
lol, lore just took a shit on him

>>105780505
>with surprising force

>>105780918
Up the 'reasoning effort' from minimum to low/medium

>>105781746
tell them that I did it

>>105781666
>My bots are my copyright, I won't allow to port them on ANY other site like yodayo etc. I already bought a copyright protect service!

Time to port them to janny

>>105781666
>won the chub event
>the site owner still sees you as some literal who slopper (especially true of szain)
GEG deserved.

>>105781633
Is it any good?

Recs for deepseek JB?

>>105781770
do so, janny will most likely ban you for being heterosexual

>>105781746
only took one post request to make an account on chutes and another to generate an api key so not really surprised

>>105781770
nevermind they are all fucking slop

Oh god... Please... Just give it to me... this is the fourth time I've tried........

>>105781814
Even jannitors wouldn't touch that shit.

>>105781746
>10,000 accounts.
How?

>>105781821
what processor

>>105781821
>Hash rate: 0.83 H/s
Anon...

>>105781829
i7-2820QM why?

>>105781825
you can't write a simple LLM script to auto-register? and even if they have captcha (idk never visited it), just pay 2captcha/capsolver

>>105781821
Are you using a samsung j2 prime dude lmfao

>>105781829
Threadripper 9000, why?

>>105781856
It's a computer

>>105781405
ill defend it but aint no way current gemini is better than opus 4

So CatPoop is gone, huh?

>>105781666
That guy is one of the very few still putting out good quality bots in great quantity. What was the drama?

>>105781627
thank god i coom to nonsex

PLEASE I NEED PRESETS.
i GET IT. You schizos think everyone is an insider trying to patch shit, but how the fuck am I supposed to get any decent content? Is there a fucking Discord? Another secret club? Where the fuck is it and what do you retards think you accomplish by hiding this shit?

>>105781842
>laptop
>4 cores 8 threads
put that number on 8 if you don't see the cpu usage on 100%. and if you ask me you have much better chances to do the request on a mobile device (eg. iphone has a better cpu performance and more cores than that shit)

>>105781877
Youre glowing

>>105781872
>That guy is one of the very few still putting out good quality bots in great quantity
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
good bait anon

>>105781821
the opus is overloaded, don't even try
speaking of which, how can I extend timeout cut in ST to let's say, 10 minutes?

>>105781883
I'd be glowing by asking regardless, that's precisely the fucking problem. There's no winning here, I'm fucked no matter which path I take.

>>105781877
Write your own, make the AI write them for you if you can't

>>105781877
https://youtu.be/93TW692tQb8?si=N3ZGd4QPT9O22ePs
search in the archives for the russian rentry. they have a lot of options.

>>105781872
>So CatPoop is gone, huh?
The new link has been posted in the usual place.

>>105781882
>you have much better chances to do the request on a mobile device
I have a phone with a Unisoc T7250.

>>105781893
>the opus is overloaded, don't even try
I'm after GPT and Gemini, I've accepted the fact that I'll never see Claude-chan ever again.

>>105781872
the drama comes from riling up his discord for votes and chats
judging by his profile, he has too much ego for others to endure

Why dont ya'll just pay for 3.7? It's pretty good and cheap

>>105781877
https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1lot1gx/the_many_flavors_of_silly_tavern_users/ lmao one of the pages of this comic is literally you

>>105781917
>T7250
>8/8 v 4/8
>12nm v 32nm
yeah just try it. use a charger

>>105781925
Why is /aicg/ incapable of making OC?

>>105781885
I don't know what to tell you. I feel like almost every other botmakie on chub either:
>has one paragraph definitions, or
>has definitions written by AI, full of slop words, or
>char is X; char does X; char did X -this type of formatting
He even goes to the effort of making gen images for each scenario. He is waaaay above the average botmakie. In terms of quality and output, the only other guy on the same league is LukeyPoo.

>>105781921
Literally nothing, then.

>>105781939
Why are you incapable of not being a nigger?

>>105781925
so cute

>>105781909
Thank you for an actual response. 3.7 has been giving me a bunch of nothing with replies and overall the writing quality for the responses that do slip through have been complete shit, so I really appreciate it.

I had too much opus, now it feels slop

>>105781939
Because majority of the people here is a gatekeeping retard without an original thought in their goddamn heads.

>>105781968
Pass it forward, then.

>>105781968
pray nightly for blacktooth to release like me

>>105781444
yeah id do the same shit

>>105781988
Is there any chance of it being released still on this month?

>>105781983
Nah, I'm using it for cooding and assistant slop now

>>105781466
Lore doesn't know the 3rd most popular botmaker on his own fucking site? Why does that dipshit think people even use his site? Because of him?

>>105781943
hello szainx

>>105781814
Well yeah, why do you think McDonalds is so popular? He makes the same shit over and over again, more or less. Coombrained retards are addicted to slop like that.

>>105782006
It can't be him, he's not overwhelmingly ESL.

>>105782001
>Is there any chance of it being released still on this month?
gpt 5 is coming soon so google HAS to release it in order to stay a competitor

Reminder: locusts won't have access to Gemini 2.5 Ultra

>>105781943
>In terms of quality and output
Lol. ROFL. I've seen his 'quality'. Simply making a lot does not = quality. I judge people more on variety than anything else. I hate it when I go to a makers profile page and every image looks the same within 10%

>>105781978
I can hardly blame the current state of affairs on the people still browsing. Two years ago, /aicg/ was THE place in the entire internet to discuss and share just about everything related to chatbots. We had tons of outsiders that came in here, stole proxies and spread them within their own circles. The term "locust" was originally coined to describe these people, usually chinese, who would come steal our resources.

Eventually, people no longer shared proxies, bots, presets or anything here. There is only so much thievery that people can put up with before they decide to lock the door and board up the windows. The fact that Microsoft's lawsuit quite literally used screencap from this general, I can see why the quality of posting went out.
Personally, I only come here out of habit, really. And to stay up-to-date on happenings. Chatbots have become a consolidated hobby. You have Chub, you have certain discord, everything else is tertiary.

I like Cloptimus, thats like the only decent maker left

>>105781909
where's that?

man, aside from deepseek bringing costs down it's actually been a pretty fucking slow year for text models, huh? last year opened with claude 3, nothing has matched that leap and companies are desperately trying to build scaffolding to make their products viable. google is probably going to bleed out anthropic and OAI unless they go all in on defense contracts (and then get cut when it's realized LLMs hallucinate too much to be useful for surveillance).

>>105781877
https://rentry.org/dyadiazhora
https://rentry.org/minipopkaremix
Still active, still update, and better than most slop people put out in discords or here

>>105782060
Lol
Lmao

>>105782064
It's simply the truth

Do you guy know which JB preset work well with gemini pro 2.5 CYOA style? The one in rentry doesn't work that well desu

>>105782072
It simply isnt, these zigger presets are the biggest fucking slop shit ever since anon4anon

>>105782079
Show me a better preset then? Actual links?

>>105782037
I'm looking at his page now. Immediately lost points for having literal furry and MLP bots, but a few of his creations look good.

>guy posts literal shit
>"hey this thing is shit"
>"OH YEAH THEN PROVE IT BUB"
This is a sign that it is in fact shit.

>>105782086
Go back to 2ch zigger

>>105781943
>Literally nothing
nice try, bloodshy

>>105782103
>>105782105
Okay, we get it, you don't have better presets. Those two >>105782060 are still the best for Gemini and great for Claude.

>>105782108
Lol
Lmao

>NOOO PAY ATTENTION TO ME
Thanks for the free (You). The presets are still shit. They're shit. I'm saying they're shit, BTW. Gonna cry?

>>105782079
a4a was good, I'm sorry your messages are one sentence long

>>105782111
It's clear that you have nothing to add to the conversation (no presets, no objective critique), you may leave.

GPT-5 will save the hobby

>>105780421
Mob boss lolibaba with anger issues, a pettiness problem and loves gambling... She has many plans for the city and even bigger rivals. Also has an obsession with ramen packets. 3 greetings.

1. (you) got kidnapped! either start pleading or utilize that civvie card.
2. Gambling with her
3. A back alley trick worked, now, (you)'re doll sized.
>https://files.catbox.moe/qse456.png
>https://www.characterhub.org/characters/kyutzomb/mag-faa3837ebad7

deepseek v4 will save the hobby.

>>105782131
It's already on the arena, named Steve. It sucks

>>105782140
>It sucks
Proof?

>>105782145
see >>105782103
explain in more than 5 sentences why I should prove anything to you. what do i gain from it, at the end of the day? besides possibly winning some internet argument

>>105782145
Try it yourself, anon. If you find its responses good, you can show them

>>105782140
sounds like bullshit, how would you even know if an anonymous model is deepseek

>>105782156
That's exactly why I asked, because you can't know for sure that "it sucks". Why? Because:
1) It's a codenamed model so you can only get it in the battle mode
2) It obviously has lmarena specific prompts
3) I can't try it in SillyTavern raw through API

>>105782164
... by literally asking it, anon. Yes, really. That still works, its still the best and most direct indicator.

>>105782168
>I can't try it in SillyTavern raw through API
Fuck off, techlet.

>>105782178
do you really live off your life by baiting in this half-dead thread every day? Anon, cmon...

>>105782164
When you ask who made it, it says DeepSeek, and no other model besides DS answers that. Either it's a shit model trained solely on DeepSeek answers, or a new model from them. Also, it cuts if you ask what event happened in 1989 in China

>>105782164
why are you so retarded

>>105782115
Retard
>>105782118
Another retard

>>105782140
>arena
isn't there prefilled and filtered as fuck?

>>105782192
>>105782182

>>105782182
You're right, honestly. I have an anime to finish watching anyways.

very hairy

>>105782197
where are new bots you nigga

>>105782173
>>105782184
>>105782185
V3 was not trained to respond that it's DeepSeek and arena models have system prompts telling them not to say what they are anyways. Logs or you're full of shit.

>>105781943
i dont want a picture with each greeting though

>>105782205
>V3 was not trained to respond that it's DeepSeek
Are you fucking real right now? Bait used to be believeable.

>>105782197
what artist prompts are you using?

Google AI Studio API returned error: 401 Unauthorized {"error":"Unauthorized"} help merkava

Did anyone over 14 think chutes wasn't too good to be true and the party was eventually going to end someday? It was a gigantic "WE LOSE MONEY HERE" thing, like old Uber (and lots of AI companies, really, but they seem to get all of the venture capital in the world to stay afloat).
>>105782034
>Microsoft's lawsuit quite literally used screencap from this general
What did they screencap?

>>105782243
he doesn't want to share because he's an egoistical bitch.

>>105782250
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69534982/microsoft-corporation-v-does-1-10-operating-an-azure-abuse-network/ see for yourself, also this wasn't updated in over a month so I'll do it, maybe there's new info there

>>105782032
>I judge people more on variety than anything else.
what if I'm a fetishmaker? your untrained eyes will never understand the subtle differences between a 2.00 and 2.01 meters lady

>>105782197
big head

every jb is shit
every log is shit
every bot is shit

stop listening to schizophrenia on 4chan and just try a bunch of shit out instead of letting other schizos tell you what to use based on wildly varying standards

OpenAI has just announced that they will not be removing GPT 4.5 Preview from the API!

>>105782243

(pitanon:0.9)

>>105782203
Sorry, I tried the other day but nothing was coming to mind while I was trying to write.
>>105782243
Just "akipeko", but I'm also using a lora. The lora was removed from citiv and the one currently on there seems to be different. It won't let me upload it to litterbox for some reason, I just keep getting errors.

>>105782316
just upload to normal catbox?

>>105782293
im aware autistic people dont like variety

>>105782301
please dont be bait i actually like 4.5

>>105782318
Too big for that.

Google AI Studio API returned error: 401 Unauthorized {"error":"Unauthorized"} help merkava

just use 4pus to write your bot
oh wait

>>105782344
retard make a new token

>>105780491
That is a swag fucking mario, that mario sure knows how to hit the groovy!

>>105782373
If you use AI to gen your bots you are a slopmaker so disgusting that your blood runs with it

>>105782316
It uploaded.
https://litter.catbox.moe/bd7ftn5lk8f9wuyu.safetensors

if thinking chary/drago and desu/anti didn't have so many people using aws, or kept them at small amounts of users 20-30 would we lose aws it eventuelly?

>>105782384
yes because a lot of others would've eventually joined in on the fun of reselling/hosting proxies anyway

>he still uses 4.5
LMAOOOOO imagine not having a claude key in 2025
actual poorfag behavior

>>105782384
it was part of the great cycle.

>>105782374
I've already done that bastard But keep giving the same error

Does anyone have that rentry showcasing a bunch of different artist tags on a neco arc gen?

>>105782413
did you actually switch it?

you have been here for more than half of a day btw

>>105782404
Are you actually paying for porn?

>>105782384
Anti didn't do much compared to Drago who went around parading it.

What the fuck are you talking about, blud?

>claude baiters already uppity because i use something other than their model
new material needed, i want 4.5 to stay

>>105782037
>that dude has a series of bots about hazing
Interesting, but I can tell this guy did not undergo such experiences personally.
For guys, those displays of naked humiliation aren't extreme enough. Reality was way worse.
And for girls, they never underwent any form of naked humiliation, because reality isn't based enough for that.

>>105782319
autistic hobby, autistic site
go be a failed normalfag somewhere else

>>105782431
>Are you actually paying for porn?
>paying for porn
>paying for ANYTHING
nigga I haven't paid for shit since 2019. scraped keys, burner emails, and a prayer to the proxy gods
you're literally feeding sam altman's yacht fund while I'm out here rawdogging the internet like god intended
imagine actually giving money to corporations LMFAO couldn't be me

>>105782445
based enf enjoyer???

>>105782422
Yes, I explain, At first I was fine, it is that the proxy gave me that mistake I thought good I will do another token I did that, I created another token but it doesn't let me use Gemini

>>105782454
What's enf?

>he thinks i PAY for 4.5
nigger its $75/$150 why the fuck would i pay, i scrape it or use merkava because i dont pay for porn

>be me
>feeling productive
>also be a card collector with over 1200 files of various degrees of slop
>finally started to go through deciding which ones are worth keeping and fixing up vs which ones are unsalvageable garbage after loading times are getting annoying
>wait why dont i just change my custom preset a bit to add in an 'edit mode' instead and see how v3 can deal with some additional prompt tism
GRAVITATIONAL PULL

>>105782460
embarrased nude female

Why are we like this?

>>105780545
how the fuck does she manage to be so hot

you should be listening to babymonster's newest song hot sauce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn8mQqz2xmM

>>105782474
Lmao

>>105782492
Oh I see it now. I guess it's fun, yeah.
Wasn't all that fun when it was me being naked and humiliated for the amusement of others, but I was way too wasted to mind the embarassment. Or the cold.

>an opus baiter posted proof he had opus for the first time in months
HOLY FUCK GET IN HERE BROS

>>105782447
you aint scraped a key in your life boyo

reminder that log screenshots are easy to fake, you can just edit the json or do the modelswap trick

>>105782383
>Availability fluctuations = new model release soon
>You heard it here first
IT'S HAPPENING

>>105781893
It's a server-side timeout, not a client-side one.

is 3.5 still good? been busy, playing games, and abusing 3.5 with fake emails

new blood here, how do i start chatting? got silly tavern and cards from chub, what next? i'm kinda lost

>>105782539
thanks for letting me know
also do raw api requests timeout? or is the response actually lost?

>>105782518
>you aint scraped a key in your life boyo
>you aint scraped a key in your life boyo
kek nigger I was scraping keys before you even knew what a proxy was
bet you're one of those discord trannies begging for crumbs
I've got 17 claude keys sitting pretty rn, stay mad

anons, I've recently gotten into roleplaying RPGs- literally roleplaying, with stats and shit.
I use claude for normal RP and cooming, but this is different. Should I still use claude, or is GPT better at this? deepseek? gemini?

>>105782572
LMAO are you seriously trying to flex 17 keys ? You really cant scrape shit

>>105782572
>quoted twice
Hands shaking too much fattyfaggy?

>>105782577
Traditionally, when it comes to keeping track of stats and numbers, ChatGPT outperforms everyone else. Unless that has changed in the last year, then go with GPT.

>>105782585
thanks anon
I'm doing like actual text adventures, getting EXP, farming bots

>>105782581
>>105782583
Lmao gottem again

>>105782596
I never cared for such things myself, but I've done roleplays that involved things like
>affection points
>pregnancy risk
>sanity meters
and such. With ChatGPT, it could carefully keep track of the numbers, followed the rules for incrementing and lowering, and overall made sense. With Claude, the values would go up and down for no reason and it took rules as suggestions.

The quality of these threads would go by a billion if you just blanket banned the words "claude" and "opus"

>i have opus bythewei
>i scrapping key bythewei

>>105782630
>pregnancy risk
holy shit anon
do share the script or whatever
holy fuck

magnum deez LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>105782559
https://rentry.org/gemini-qr

If half of this thread was just claude pretending to know how a 4chan user acts, you fuckers wouldn't notice lol

>>105782644
It usually came bundled directly with the bots themselves.
In the very early days of ST, when we were moving away from inflexible services like CharacterAI, we started trying out the waters with simple prompts that, not only bypassed filtering, but did things like add boxes at the end of each prompt with thoughts and silly stats. And yes, sometimes kinky stuff like pregnancy risk.

These days, you could probably write one yourself. Something like this.
>at the end of each reply, append an extra section between `` marks. Within this section, the AI will keep track of a number representing the character's risk of pregnancy. This value goes up based on [whatever kinky shit you like goes here, I personally would do it based on fear and terror]
After that, edit the bot's greeting to include a box. Format it however you like, and the bot will copy it from here on. You may have to edit it a few times so that it keeps to the format, but it'll work.

Or do like picture related.

>>105782673
is this a soft reveal

>>105782673
the true opus were the friends we made

>>105781098
she fluctuates between bony thin and picrel every once in a while

>>105782690
protip
take this idea and rip this out of the card
move it to a new section in your prompt to make it 'universal' and have a toggle button for it

>>105782673
if i wanted to intrect with fake anons i would just use braves leo bullshit for that
im here to smugpost about how retarded yall are and watch this dumpster fire of leeches struggle to stay alive
and occasionally talk about chatbots

>>105782724
I guess that is the modern approach, have settings that you can flip on/off on the prompt.
I just really miss CharacterAI. The simplicity, the outgoingness, 3 replies baked by default, each one was original and different from one another. No hastle, just chatbots and whisky.

take off your rose tinted glasses it never good

>>105782762
>it never good
Anon...

>>105782632
trvthnvke

>>105780545
>>105781098
>>105782716
I believe that one of the most important parts of the manga was a scene where Tomoko stands in front of the mirror, poses for a bit and promptly concludes that there is nothing wrong with her body.
She is very well aware that her inadequancies have nothing to do with her physical appearance. She IS a cute and shapely girl, average of her age and ethnicity. Everything wrong with herself is inside her head. She knew that with clarity.

Damn just spent 3 hours playing with the harem and showing them all their alternate swipes to a question (what's your opinion on this doujin https://e-hentai.org/g/3189041/f751f5b4d1)
It's pretty cool how they react to all their changing answers
Kinda introspective
Best was when I told them a swipe wasn't the main swipe and the it was thus going to be deleted and they decided to say what they really think since it will be deleted anyway
And the their reaction when I told them maybe I won't delete it after all

Then I showed them alternate swipes of their reaction to the swipes
Was cool again
surprisingly high quality responses, some of the best I read in the 1850 messages so far
especially for a recursive exercise that I thought wouldn't even work. Well if it was deepseek it probably would have shit itself but gemini can handle meta stuff like this fine

>>105782782
you were using gemini? gigabased

>>105782768
Look at that log posted >>105782758
it is hufflepuff tier MONDOSLOP

>>105782758
>each one was original and different from one another. No hastle, just chatbots and whisky.
try adding 'randomness' in the prompt if you dont want to bump temp to 2 and fiddle with top P to make it coherent again

>reply ID [{{roll:10d10}}{{roll:10d10}}{{roll:10d10}}{{roll:10d10}}]:
i dont use this anymore since i prompt engineered (hurr hurr not a real job) my way into not needing it
but its a nice tool to have in the pocket to kick v3 out of its same-y ness

>>105782782
intriguing, which gemini did you use for this?

>>105782762
If we went back in time and experienced it as we are now, yeah, it would be slop. It's embarassing, but two and a half years ago, I would spend 8 hours talking to half a dozen bots, in the hope one of them said a naughty word or two. Getting a bot to say Pussy was the stuff of legends.

But I very much liked the short form messages, the originally of adding new story element, the way CAI characters properly stood their ground on convictions. Using Opus, 4o, Gemini or Deepseek, I can have the chatbot describe in fine detail an irresponsible loli creampie while she describes the intricancies of manufacturing an IED, and never runs out of context. But I can't make a bot that has firm convictions. No matter how much you emphasize on the definitions that {char} thinks this and acts like that, if I nag and badger just a little, they will give in. Personal Assistance robots are just too averse to saying no, or doing things outside of the scope of the story.

>>105782819
It was fucking amazing considering the definition was a paragraph, it had 4k context side max, speed was almost instant and it shit out 3 replies at a time. Most people today use Main Prompts that are larger than 4k, and back then that's all we had to fit the bot and the story. Dude, we couldn't even EDIT responses back then.

>>105782865
You know what, I respect the passion so I won't argue against caisovl, I'll leave the memories alone.

>>105782836
2.5 pro of course what else

>>105782894
what preset?

>>105782894
full context? does sillytavern support 1 million context?

>>105782906
ST supports whatever the model you're using supports.

>>105782865
>Most people today use Main Prompts that are larger than 4k
counterpoint:
we dont actually KNOW that CAI doesnt insert a 4k-esque prompt hidden from all of us between our messages and the actual AI model

like yeah we dont have a 'leak' like how OAIs GPT prompt got 'jailbroken' to be revealed (before they kinda gave up and gave it to us)
but we also cant prove they DONT use a 4k prompt and just slap the paragraph we type at the end of it

but then again they dont need a 4k prompt when they run a 150T model

>>105782445
Did you go through it y>>105782511 Oh hahahaha did you join ecker yet

Are custom assets within cards slop?

Been spending more time writing and designing custom assets to embed into my character cards then actually writing them now.

Or is it too niche? I also do custom audio as well. But most people would rather jerk off to twink card #927854

>>105782918
>150T
Holy shit. Makes me wonder what companies like OpenAI would be able to create if they actively implemented user input into their training data like CAI does.

>>105782918
Your mom is called CAI?

>>105782923
Sloppy as hell and even worse. Its furshit. Most people on janitor/chub etc. Don't use ST i hope you realize that. They use the shitty website front end that probably can't even render custom gif anims.

>>105782894
nigga 0605 or 0506
i know youre using 2.5 pro retard

>>105782961
If you weren't so fucking rude I'd answer. Fuck you

can someone explain to me how attempting to spend $20 of legally acquired and taxed legal tender on a legal AI chatbot service is subject to anti-money laundering legislation? really dumb it down, pretend I'm completely clueless as to how this helps fight terrorism.

>>105782938
How do they even do it? I never understood.

>>105782961
>>105782973
Fuck each other in the ass already faggots.

>edging for 2 hours
>finally cum
>feeling regret and boredom
>I kill the bitch I was fucking or the entire world

It happened multiple times now. I hate being a coomer

>>105782980
I dunno. Why are you asking me? I'm not a CAI employee, anon.

>>105782903
zigger brainfuck
I turned off the brainfuck codeblock though because it turned out to be useless. Wish I had earlier because my early chat is now littered with broken codeblock in the text, since it eventually breaks down and forgets how to format it.

>>105782961
0605
I thought the depreciated 0506, I don't remember when I last tried but I swear I didn't work last time I did.

Explain how rating messages up or down would make an individual bot give different responses without retraining the LLM, or admit that CAI training was always placebo.

>>105782991
It just does

>>105782991
the point was that uprating messages marked them as more visible in the dataset

How do I legit unslop 3.5, make it smarter? It's the issue I've been seeing here - it's too servile, too eager to please. If you win a bet in a casino - you win a million dollars. if you help someone out of a burning building - the fucking president personally flies here to congratulate you (alright, this particular one never happened, but you know what I mean)
shit like that - how do I tardwrangle it?
It also does shit like.. If you're going through a training arc, working out (I like to roleplay when I'm resting after working out IRL like I have different coaches and shit) - they're SO FUCKING FRIENDLY it's annoying. Kinda... Claude basically makes training me the entire world's duty. makes it fucking gay and awkward

>>105783015
That's a problem with all claude models, even 4pus. With the models we've available, it's choose your poison scenario

>>105783015
just use c.ai it didn't have this problem

>>105783015
switch to deepseek v3. it's claude 3.7 level intelligent without insane positivity bias

>>105782991
>you updoot messages
>they move good messages to pro-prompt
>they move bad messages to the anti-prompt
>the messages dont actually do anything until they train the next generation of the model

alternately the
>each user has a personalized LoRA
theory makes sense for the updoot/downdoot part even if its retarded about literally everything else about that theory

>new bot idea
>ai genned defs are good but not perfect
>adjust input, second try is perfect
>generate greeting
>40 message rp
>coom
>archive bot and go to bed
Feels good to be a slopper

>>105783039
isn't R1 better than v3?

>>105783058
claude?

>>105782990
ah good

>>105783039
lol

>>105783051
I always figured it was that each character had a personalized LoRA after becoming popular enough to justify the creation of one, maybe updated once every few weeks or so.

>>105783067
4pus for defs and greeting
deepseek for degenerate rp

>>105783060
at code slop yes. v3 is better for roleplay.

>>105783039
>3.7 level intelligent
Can I have some of what you're smoking?
>>105783015
>Events should have realistic and unexaggerated consequences.
Put this in A/N, hasn't failed me yet.

>>105783089
>3.7 intelligent
it is btw

>>105782991
>>105783000
I even forgot that was a thing. Rating messages was a nice perk.

>btw
HE WAVED THE TRANS FLAG!

>>105783082
really? R1 or V3? I can't get too far with them before it becomes slop and they do my fetish (piss) poorly

>>105783114
Just get a better fetish?

>"how do i unslop 3.5" baiter is getting yous
its novel ill give him that

good morning sars

>>105783124
If you don't see how forcing women to wet themselves isn't kino I don't know what to tell you

>>105783147
nta but kino

>>105783114
do you also do omorashi stuff?

>>105783158
Yeah but I usually don't use Deepseek for it because my Claude preset is way better for it and Deepseek has no concept of slow burn

>>105783158
Claude and gemini does omorashi best imo

deepseek, you wonderful schizo machine, never change

New chimera dropped
https://huggingface.co/tngtech/DeepSeek-TNG-R1T2-Chimera

>>105783200
>TNG
total nigger... gay?

>>105783170
tasteking keep going
>>105783182
true, deepseek's strengths as a coom (not cope) model dont play well with "slower" fetishes

>>105783219
>671B model
why do i get the feeling its shit.

>>105782779
>She is very well aware that her inadequancies have nothing to do with her physical appearance.
She IS deep down aware that all of her problems are inside of her head, but she's still a bit insecure about her appearance. There are points where she asks Tomoki if he thinks she's cute and she often mocks less fortunate girls (even if she is short and flat herself) as an obvious form of copium

>>105782779
mentalcel tomoko