Thread 105781461

Why the fuck win11 requires 64 GB of storage?
(for comparison debian stable requires ~1.2GB)

It need to install 60 copies of Chrome.

>>105781461 (OP)
Because they've thrown any attempt of even slightly optimizing their OS on the trash
Rumour has its so bad that the search field is made with React

>>105781461 (OP)
Compatibility

>>105781507
Rumors are that many of the core apps have also been rewritten in the microsoft version of Electron

>>105781461 (OP)
Now you understand

>>105781482
>>105781507
You are onto something

>>105781461 (OP)
>debian stable requires ~1.2GB
with a desktop environment? that's a lie. subhuman.

>>105781521
>Compatibility
compatibility with what? legacy software? hah, linux with wine is more compatible with legacy win apps that win11

>>105781540
for "minimal" install, as stated in the official documentation, faggot

>>105781461 (OP)
They unironically used AI to make it. You faggots will bitch and moan but still keep sucking microsoft cock as if you have no choice.

>>105781461 (OP)
Copilot screenshot storage.

>>105781578
KILL YOURSELF
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/server-core/what-is-server-core

>>105781592
> still keep sucking microsoft cock as if you have no choice.
wrong. i'm a basic linux fag. i just bought used thinkpad and it came with preinstalled win11 and i booted it to check if it's working and saw that it is using 84GB. i thought "that can't be true" so i checked microsoft site to verify storage requirements, because that is fucking ridiculous

>>105781578
So not even remotely comparable to a base Windows 10 install, you disingenuous sack of shit.

>>105781647
>>105781640
what a picky fags you are. okay. let's install some bloated gui and make it 2.1GB. still fucking ~32x times smaller storage requirement than win11. do you know how much anime could that be used for, you fucking no-lifes?

>>105781461 (OP)
It doesn't really use all 64 GiB of storage, it actually uses ~20 GiB, but yeah, that's still a lot. I can have Arch Linux install with KDE and Firefox with about 5 GiB of storage used.
The reasons why it's using so much are:
1. Indian bloat like UWP apps and Edge
2. A lot of legacy programs, runtimes and stuff (including 32-bit versions) that is shipped because Windows is about backwards compatibility and stuff. That's why they're too slow on implementing some interesting stuff because they're so afraid to break something. I can only imagine what horrible maintenance burden it is, especially when you fire all the white men who develop this code and replace them with vibecoding indians.

>>105781640
Yeah, let me install gimped server version of Shindows that will still take more space than my desktop-ready Debian install.

>>105781461 (OP)
Telemetry, every millisecond you touch the computer must be recorded

>>105781707
>every millisecond you touch the computer must be recorded
that's kind of sexy, i like being watched when i fuck things up

>>105781461 (OP)
Bloat + Windows updates. The Windows folder is like 30Gigs in size. Every time a version update is pulled it saves your old Windows folder for fallbacks. So double that size and you're probably maxing out the entire volume.

>>105781461 (OP)
Unused storage is wasted storage.

>>105781915
agreed, but it also matters how storage is used. i want to minimize usage for useless os shit (necessary evil) so I can maximize usage for anime lolis and pr0n!

>>105781461 (OP)
H-1B Indian programming.

>>105781507
>Rumour has its so bad that the search field is made with React
Not sure about the search field, but the start menu is. They actually bragged about it at last year's React conference because they somehow see it as a good thing.

>>105781533
AI = always Indians

>>105781461 (OP)
Don't worry it's actually only 9.8GB, The rest is just allocated for storing the info on you they collect.
You don't seriously expect them to pay to store your info when you'll do it voluntarily do you?

>>105781507
It's actually so embarrassing that Linux with WINE runs Windows apps better than Windows now. I remember back with Windows 7 running games on Linux through WINE was at least a 25% performance hit. How do you fuck up this bad?