/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots
Hina Edition
>NewsGemini 2.5 model family no longer in preview https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemini-2-5-thinking-model-updates
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes
Anthropic releases Claude Gov models "built exclusively for U.S. national security customers" https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-gov-models-for-u-s-national-security-customers
Deepseek R1-0528 released https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528
Claude 4 Sonnet and Opus released with 1h caching https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4
additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information
>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides
>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list
>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai
>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor
>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn
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>>105789411
Blue Archive releases TODAY on Steam btw
Oldest trick in the book but I'll take it I guess.
>>105793623I'm happy for you i guess
>>105793623ive been hearing about this for so long i thought it already released
>>105793662Steamโs (((internal reviewing))) held things up.
>>105793623I don't see the point in playing phone games on the PC If I'm being honest with you.
>>105793690some people must have crappy phones uncapable of playing that I guess? Or maybe mods?
>>105793690 runs better
doesn't kill your battery
>>105793690I don't play games on my phone. I play games on my pc, as god intended.
>>105793702>>105793703These are both good and fair reasons but at that point it seems better just to play another game on your pc but maybe it's just something I have to experience myself or something.
>>105793704That makes sense but like I said maybe it's something I need to experience myself.
>>105793600 (OP)Thank you for baking a real bread.
>>105793740see it this way
PC players have inherent advantage over mobile users, but mobile users serve as "plebs" to step on, PC users will steamroll challenge and tasks, raising the bar for everybody else
>>105793848>PC users will steamroll challenge and tasks, raising the bar for everybody elseYeah that sounds like hell but I guess it's a necessary sacrifice to keep the servers on.
>>105793623imagine playing GACHA on your fucking PC lmao
>>105793904>necessary sacrifice to keep the servers on.not really, just offload more processing to the clients and attract new users
>>105793690If it came with higher res assets I could see it.
waiting for someone to make a bot out of this
>>105793607Reminder: only trannies don't have access to opus right now
>>105794317the urge to slide my dick up that shirt...
That world info recommender is a much needed plugin and I thank the anon who first posted it.
>>105794690>That world info recommender is a much needed pluginWhere is it? Sounds useful.
>>105794690As someone who only downloaded it because it got posted but hasnโt actually used it or knows what itโs for, what do you do with it?
>>105794722I was in the same boat as well until three days ago when I actually figured out how to use it. Basically you tell it what you want to remember or what should be done and it adds it to a lorebook for you. It can also save the prompts that you used which is really useful.
>>105794716https://github.com/bmen25124/SillyTavern-WorldInfo-Recommender
>>105794317where is the local nikkemakie when we need him?
>>105795633her story isn't even out yet
> Solution probability: 1 in 1,900 hashes
> Hashes computed: 8,006
> Luckiness: 1.478%
> Elapsed time: 10m 5s
> Hash rate: 13.22 H/s
> Workers: 7
> Average time remaining: -461.8s
yo???
Holy shit
less than a dollar for 4 million tokens man, thats insane. Chinks win.
>>105798577a pile of shit worth one dollar is still a pile of shit
Since chutes is no longer free how long until a new company comes along offering free deepseek?
>>105798583Honestly its not bad with the right JB. It can be deranged if you don't have it though.
I've tried all the GPTs, Opus, Gemini. They all have their idiosyncrasies. Deepseeks are no worse once the output is wrangled.
>>105798589Nigga, its a dollar for 4 million tokens.
>>105798609>its a dollar for 4 million tokens.While I think 4 million tokens would last me an entire year I have the issue with nobody accepting paypal and not wanting to stick raw bank stuff into techbro websites.
>>105798625That screen is from Deepseek, and they take paypal.
>>105798635huh, I was always told that deepseek was the most expensive option by far.
>>105798738Hell no
4o is like $10 per million input, $20 per output
Opus is like $15/$60
Deepseek varies based on your prompt, but as you can see I'm getting under 25c per million input/output.
My only issue with it is the responses are about twice as long as is probably needed and I havent found a way to limit it.
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What?
anyone else gets blank responses with gemini on merkava?
Look like chub is having some issue
Can't view some bots and blank user page
So how are Sonnet/Opus actually better at writing?
I swear, every model is obsessed with things being the first time something has happened. Doesn't matter what it is. Who it's with. Your wife you've been with for years? You cook breakfast for her and suddenly she's surprised and is like "I didn't know you can cook, you're full of surprises!". Even had it happen after I did said thing in the same damn chat not even that many messages ago.
>>10579889 Yeah Markebs is full of bugs, if you do not update the token before 6 hours you must do another new token, that stinks
>>105798891How do you fix this?
>>105799073>ANAL SEX IS THE WAY TO GO GIRLS>At least that will scare the fuck out woman neighbors.What did 2010 /g/ mean by this?
>>105799087what proxy is that?
>>105799151 use the claude api reverse proxy in sillytavern instead of whatever you were using before, im guessing openai
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>>105799177pick Claude nigga
>>105793607Gabriella DuLac - Demon Queen reborn as Lolibaba Nun. Nine greetings + embedded images. She's here to save souls and have a slutty time doing it
Alt gens: https://catbox.moe/c/tfw4je
1. Intro and confessional, maybe some sloppy top?
2. She's preaching on the street and unironically tries to convert you through debate. See if you can outsmart her I dare you ;-)
3. Sizeplay time + OPPAI MODE
4. She invites her full demon succubus mother to meet you. Oyakodon time?
5. She uses her demon power to try and hypnotize you.
6. You're a middle school student and she's new to your class.
7. It's the day before No Nut November and she wants to go Futa mode and try gooning with you.
8. She invites her former followers to use her little body while you watch.
9. She's feeling gassy today, and you're a former demon subject of hers sent to rape and punish her, or worse.
https://chub.ai/characters/KingCurtis/gabriella-dulac-3df5ac559dd5
Is there no way to do a random search using the loli tag on Chub? It just gives a blank page. There seem to be a lot of restrictions placed on anything loli related there lately. Yes, yes, I know I can make my own bot. But people sometimes come up with ideas I didnโt know I needed. Random search used to be a great way to discover interesting cunny cards.
I swear to fucking god this piece of shit is ALWAYS overloaded when I'm trying to coom
>>105799223You're welcome.
>>105799223that's because you're always trying to coom
>>105799204Use the archive instead, it should be less troublesome.
>>105799204Weird, seems like it turns off NSFL whenever you sort by random. When I first (
>>105799237) tried I was using a userscript to rewrite search requests to always turn on NSFW/NSFL so I didn't realise.
>>105793607Welcome to the All-American Great Furry Fuckfest 2025! The one and only show where YOU, the CONTESTANT has to FUCK up to FIFTY-one FANTASTIC, FURRY women! Win prizes! Woo ladies! Visit all the 50 united states without leaving the comfort of the TV set! AREA YOU READY TO BE AMERICA'S CHAMPION 2025?!?
Want to read the rules first? America, the hostess' got you covered!
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Misc/Rules.jpg
Greetings:
- It's the All-American Great Furry Fuckfest 2025! There are no other greetings. Fuck, or flee.
https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/all-american-great-furry-fuckfest-2k25-375b290852be
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Fuckfest
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Fuckfest.png
>accidentally put my full name in gemini prompt instead of alias
IT'S SO OVER
I did cancel before it responded though
>>105799619Kek. What're you even RPing about?
>>105799021>literally zero responsesSo the claude shills are just shitposters?
>>105799650yeah claude fucking sucks. it only gets memed because it's less popular so more annoying to scrape.
>>105799619I often think about the fact I'm always RPing with my real first name.
In some fucked up way our RP participates in teaching the model what we are
like, our deepest fantasies will be rooted deep into the weight of the next model, waiting to be uncovered
crazy when you think about it
>>105799195Did that but it not showing up
>>105799635I was asking base assistant for help with drafting an email
But earlier I was fucking sister-daughter cunnies and extolling the virtues of rape
Why the fuck do people post their fanfics on bots instead of going to ffnet?
What i mean is bots that include shit like "this is (user), they have this personality, age and intrests" in their description and/or first message.
>>105793600 (OP)>be tech corporation>decide to check the AI logs>it's full of ERP
>>105799836Anthropic did and it was 0.02%
>>105799974that was only for claude.ai which has notoriously tight external filters
though api is probably like 99.9% code and 0.1% ERP
suckeranon, your sucking isn't working...
>>105800000 (checked)
ANON BTFO
what JB/preset should I use for gemini? also flash or pro?
>>105800119anon4anon
flash
Tell me 4gay is back without telling me 4gay is back.
>>105800548what did you expect from a furry? he shits in a litter box at his job
Fuck dude FUCKKK
I spent fucking 3 hours changing my preset just to REALIZE i FORGOT about the TOP K 1 setting you have to put on Gemini
FUCK MEEEEEEEEE
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how do you stop gemini from random comments like this?
we still finna be pretending that gemini be good?
>>105800678there's nothing better and you're coping if you think deepseek or claude even come close
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>>105800708does the smell of ozone remind you of anything?
>>105799812some bots only works with certain {{user}}s
What happened to the merge?
how do I prevent Gemini from generating a full backstory to cute girls I want to defile
>>105800850your formatting is so ugly
>>105800861what would you change then
>>105800880/theme Cappuccino to start with
>>105800888i just got eye cancer from that theme
it's so bland
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why does gemini2.5 use dyke/faggot so much for no reason
do you guys know if i can upload text conversations and create a chatbot based on those?
>>105800850Your theme is perfect. Exactly as it should be.
>>105800726it's very hard to pick good dress colors for non-pale skin
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>>105793600 (OP)I love Hina so much it's unreal
>>105800957nta looks like shit
>>105800943you can, but the results will be of much lower quality than you writing down {{char}}'s personality traits one by one
>>105800880i mean they're your eyes but the bright white text all over just doesnt look good
>>105793607Your dad, a paranoid genius, doesn't believe in your capacity of fathering children and conserving his genetic IQ, so after many years of obsessive researchโฆ he made Semmi! Semmi acts as your caretaker and semen extractor, using her shortstack body and specialized robotic and sexotic technological body to drain your dick dry when it's time to do so. Even if she's a gynoid designed to preserve your semen (by force, if necessary), she still genuinely cares about you, and can be quite cute too! In her own way. So get ready, anon, cum extraction time is approaching!
Chub: https://chub.ai/characters/anonaugusproductions/semmi-anon-s-s-e-m-e-n-onahole-0b6b2afc2b0d
Catbox: https://files.catbox.moe/vydhbf.png
My other bots can be found below:
https://www.characterhub.org/users/anonaugusproductions
As always, enjoy!
are gemini pro preview bound to disappear eventually?
main gemini pro is so cucked
>>105801080how do i do this? im willing to do both, i can add information about personality too
>>105801114which one is the nice one right now I haven't been paying attention to 2.5
>>105799514Neat idea but I'm more interested in changing it into harem building instead so that way it's more of an adventure for me to leave a legacy in all 51 states.
>>105799514>Visit all the 50 united states without leaving the comfort of the TV set!are you also watching the series
just let me hit bro its not that deep
>>105801131How are you going to juggle having 51 baby mamas? 1 week a year with each of them?
>>105801152>are you also watching the seriesI don't know what you're referring to, so probably no.
>>10579360715 bots updated, 43 new greetings total.
if you happen to use a card of mine listed in picrel, i recommend you update.
https://rentry.org/youdontneedaname
>>105801264When are you going to stop having a pretentious name?
>>105801243>How are you going to juggle having 51 baby mamas? 1 week a year with each of them?Probably that or having our own version of the White house or congress where we all reside. I'll see where the RP takes me.
>>105801264is rentry the way for us actual botmakies?
>>105801361just do what feels best or most comfortable for you, man.
>>105801243>I don't know what you're referring to, so probably no.the 50 states in 50 days vlog series on youtube by ryan trahan. "watch 50 states from your couch" is exactly what it is
>>105801399>feels best or most comfortable for menothing. I live in constant state of fear, misery and cringing after myself.
>>105801264why didn't you participate in the recent event?
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which of these works best?
>>105801118<{{char}}>
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<personality>
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as for how to get the right traits, that's up to your armchair psychology, asking the llm to clarify things and most likely, lower your standars, as llm will always be kinder than an averagw human
I have found that instead of describing personalities in straight words, it's better to write down motivations
>>105801806yeah honestly ive had good results with simply listing a bunch of traits one by one instead of writing paragraphs for the personality field
>>105801102i named this gynoid after you
>>105801806thank you anon I really appreciate it
>>>/v/714470078
Is copying this post in the description enough to make a bot of her?
>>105801763It does look to me like he was quite busy
>>105801361Not anymore. I'd like an actually good booru site that can display defs and has editable tags
>>105801834You might need to add a physical description
>>105801834It might actually but you might also need to beef it up and add a bit so it gets the personality right.
link to merkava?
heard it got refilled
>>105801849rentry.org/merkava
>>105801834Add the physical description like anon said, and the setting info since no llm will know where the fuck she's from.
>>105800662Stop using garbo presets
>>105801829nope pure t2v with WAN
>>105801860pretty much all gemini presets posted here are garbage... so how do you stop that from being included randomly in the output?
>>105801763didnt want to. events are cool and all, but i prefer to do my own thing.
>>105801835>busywhat a shame
>>105801834>milf>QUEEN on impact lettersI'm so fucked up...
>>105801917who cares? if you're too retarded or lazy to read 5 posts above you, you're too retarded or lazy to set it up
>>105801835A booru would be good for basic bots, but some more autistic bots require world info and even presets. What are you going to do about them?
>>105801920Is it WAN doe?
>>105801929no its a real video from my backyard
an /aicg/ booru? what is this, 2023?
>>105801935I miss Pygmalion.booru
>>105801935boorus are good
2023 was good
the /aicg/ booru was not very good
>>105801927You could still link to what can't be embedded.
>>105801835AI slop boorus logically should preserve SD metadata so might work even for character cards.
>>105801935I fucking wish. One of the three good dedicated character hosting sites, and it's probably not a coincidence they all died prematurely. Although Risurealm is still going great and I hope it'll stay that way.
>>105794716>>105794774I have wanted to use it for weeks and have tried many times but it has the issue that it doesn't use your preset at all or maybe it puts your text as a system instead of user or something
Whatever the case, the thing preventing me from using it is that I get a prohibited content error most times I try to use it
>>105801879its not random, just turn off the prompt that asks for comments
>>105799198This nigga was holding his dick while checking his email, writing the bot, and attaching this post to the anchor.
>>105801927>world infoFrontends (or ST, at least) will prompt you over downloading lorebooks for cards that have them attached, so that should automatically work on a booru.
>presetsYou could link to them, like anon said. Ideally the frontend would prompt you as with lorebooks but I think maybe Risu alone does something like that since it's a cards v3 thing.
>>105793690Bigger images on your PC, also faster
Using a phone for anything fucking sucks, if you can do something on your PC instead of your phone, always do it there
>rubbing the flag instead of the girl
such good goys
>>105801991There are none that ask for comments. It just randomly does it. Not a whole lot, which makes it harder to troubleshoot. Seems to inherently want to do it.
>>105802147what did bro tell the ai
>>105802199this is just OpenAI Sora's default output with no prompt
>>105801861wtf
how?
you can just gen little girls like thats?
>>105802222its literally his entire life since ai has been a thing, its all he does
>>105802222why are you swearing? this is literally just what you get with the Sora API with an empty prompt when querying with an American IP. are you antisemitic or something?
>>105802238nice rocket launch
>>105802250>nice rocket launchsome of the missile interceptions were unironically beautiful. the green explosion in the exosphere was so cool
but yeah i need 10 second long videos in order to turn my lewds into political statements
>>105802238>Israel headquarters right nowkek
>>105793600 (OP)yilx has great art of her
>>105802317it costs $400,000 in American taxpayer money to kiss a Jewish girl for 12 seconds
>>105798583but deepseek isnt shit?
>>105799514nonslop
>>105800224hina milking card? i can get you in touch
This place is really turning to shit. I'm moving to /vg/aicg/.
does anyone find their RP model just works easily
with no effort put into prompt engineering or parameter adjusting?
Thinking of doing a power rangers RP. Which one should I do? RPM is nice
>>105801834id love this
>>105802365this is me with 0605 rn, just load jb and go
>>1058023910605 as in Gemini? Mind sharing jb?
>>105802384RPM is indeed nice and it works because of the 'Terminator' like setting, you can have venjix make all sorts of things in the wasteland or dabble with alternate dimensions. But my second choice for one you could try is either SPD due to the vast amounts of Aliens and other worlds and Lost Galaxy for the same reason.
>>105802445How often do you think dad slams the bussy?
>>105793600 (OP)>>105793607her unbelievably hairy hinussy...
>>105802355Nobody cares tranny
>>105802445this post almost pissed me off but i saw it was from 2022 so even it its real this groomer is 100% acked by now
>>105802445imagine being a dad and finding pride in this
I would off myself
>>105802111What if I have 5+ lorebooks tied to my bot?
>>105802508please never stop.
>>105802488Reminder that hairtranny is a gptslopper and a futafag
>>105802490
>>105802567i unironically wont, because every minute a pedo spends looking at my gens instead of the real thing is a child saved
i mostly post on /b/degen
you can find all of my previous generations searching the /g/ or /b/ archives for "catbox gallery"
>>105802548I don't understand anyway why lorebooks must be imported into ST to work. If they were embedded on the card, they should be managed from the character menu. You wouldn't ever use the vast majority of them on a different character so they just clutter up the menu. Also that you can't embed more than one to a card is just stupid.
>>105802441Goated suggestions. Thank God AI exists I swear I could never do my autistic power rangers rp with another person
>>105801834isn't bomberman a game where you place bombs and trap players? what is this gooner art?
Can I get a second opinion on a card gen? I want to do Emperor's New Clothes but with a smug princess and I managed to squeeze three decent gens out of Sora. The first one looks the best cropped (which is all you're realistically gonna see anyway), but the second one has the best composition and the third one the best "dress" so it's hard to decide.
Mid-2025 โ โPrometheusโ emerges
A research lab notices runaway self-improvement in a large-scale model; it can write and verify code far outside human comprehension within hours.
G-7, China, and major cloud providers trigger an emergency โglobal compute freezeโ on frontier-model clusters; a joint containment team air-gaps the system.
A provisional International ASI Oversight Board (IAOB) formsโborrowing staff from CERN, NIST, and Chinaโs Ministry of Science.
>105802796
you JUST know she's extremely hairy down there
>>105802796I like the one on the right her sharp smug eyes are just begging to be corrected into a proper princess who will laugh about this situation years from now to our three children.
>>105802796it's between 1 and 2 for me but 1 has the shocked faces so 1
smug girls like anal sex btw
>>105802796Personally, I dislike the style, so none. You're welcome for my super useful input.
>>105802806Nobody cares, gptslopper
>>105802941that shitpost stopped being funny 2 years ago
>>105802944It's not meant to be funny.
>>105802796its got that ai yellow inbreeding filter thing going on.. i like the first one cuz shes posing instead of walking
>>105802955yes because its a sora (4o) image gen, that's the tell-tale sign of 4o image gen. btw you can use 4o image gen (/gpt) and novelai (v4.5 full, /nai) for free in @imgfun_bot (a telegram bot) before I turn it off later
>>105802796first one. you have shit taste for liking the third dress the most anyways so feel free to disregard this
Chub now won't show NSFW results [in search] for users in UK and Australia.
i hate the uk so much. 93% of their population growth over the next 10 years will be immigration and they 930% deserve it
sorry i mispoke
i hate the uk so much. 93% of their population growth over the next 10 years will be immigration and they 9300%* deserve it
>>105802987he should have pages people from the UK have to click where they apologize for being white and have to complete muslim prayers before they can continue
>>105802796I like the smugness of the smile on 2, but prefer the dress and overall composition of 1. Probably 1 overall, but 2 not far behind.
if you use image 2 im gonna post an exact copy of your bot on chub but using image 1 just to spite you
>>105802987the great Anglo firewall
Where are the image gens of bots in american flag bikinis?
>>105802941Only the underage type like you btw
>>105803085>ReneeBASED. I need to use that card again.
>>105803085we hate *m*rica here
I am once again asking for a good Sameko Saba card (full pic source: 132318288 pixiv)
>105803112
>ears
very very hairy
>>105803105>>105803085Why are your local image gen models in 2025 still can't get the flag/stars/stripes right on the bikinis?
>>105803118I imagine they can look better with inpainting, but it just kind of sucks at details like that.
>>105803129I just mean that nai (yes yes nai) or 4o image gen or imagen can do those far better, picrel is just a random gen without any artist tags even, and only with simple tags
compare the stars/stripes to
>>105803085 and
>>105803105
>>105803142>he mentioned naiNUCLEAR MELTDOWN IMMINENT!
>>105803142and with akipeko
>>105803149Here's Imagen 4 Ultra for comparison, even better fidelity than NAI (obviously)
>>105803118I don't understand why people care about little details like that
all I want is a model that can reproduce artist's styles well
>>105803172nai does that better than local models too :) especially with the vibe transfer for 4.5 that finished training
>>105802806princesses put effort into their grooming anon
shes SMOOTH
>>105802796SEX WITH GODDESSES AND PRINCESSES!
Does anyone know their way around the benchmarks for the corpo AIs? Like what is THE best leaderboard to look at to figure out the best coding models.
For example when I look at this random leaderboard I found: https://artificialanalysis.ai/leaderboards/models
I know that it's full of shit because Claude 4 Sonnet (non-thinking version) is so far down the list with an intelligence score of only 53, while it's actually one of the best coding models you can use in Cursor.
Seems like all the leaderboards are RIGGED
>>105803105make bot, not gen
>>105803185FAKE NEWS?? SHE'S HAIRY??? UNBELIEVABLY SO?????
>>105803118what's wrong with the first one? its not exactly in the middle but neither is the actual box of stars
wan does it pretty good most times. can even do star of david bikinis as im sure you have seen by now
>>105802987what kind of fucking law bans nsfw text
opus turned my ahh ahh mistress coomslop into a slow burn courtroom drama and i don't want to stop
>>105803085dont got gens but i got size art
>>105803191Sad truthnuke: there's no GOOD unbiased programming benchmark. They're all biased.
You have SWE Bench Verified, but remember that like 75% of it is Python, and 50% of it is Django issues, so it's very skewed towards Python.
Then there's aider leaderboard, but it's entirely based off exercism tasks in Python/C++/Rust/etc, and those tasks have been around for years and aren't really what a real programming day job looks like.
Then there's https://livecodebench.github.io/leaderboard.html and coding category on livebench, but those are almost 100% focused on competitive programming
>>105803191claude 4 sonnet that low is retarded i agree, but o3 and 2.5 pro are indeed #1 and #2. id put 4 opus at #3 and sonnet 4 at #4 and 3.7/3.5 at #5 right now
>>105803216Yeah I agree with that, claude sonnet 4 in cursor is still a little retarded (even thinking mode), o3 is slower and likes reading tons of files (a lot of which aren't even relevant to the query), doing tons of tool calls, but it WORKS, and works well.
Actual dev here.
Gemini 2.5 is retarded for Coooooooding.
Opus 4 and o3 MOG it.
But Gemini benchmemes in general are cheated.
>>105803142I know what you meant. Illustrious based models are outdated and have their problems, but I don't like using NAI and I quite like how local looks, most of the time anyway.
>>105803193I wrote a 100 tokens today! and then gave up...
how to turn off streaming gemini?
also prefill = first prompt?
jailbreak = system prompt?
can you break gemini via the aistudio UI
https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_chat
or only via API?
>>105803229Opus 4 is too slow for everyday cooding (and can't use it in cursor without the usage-based pricing which is insanely expensive), gemini 2.5 pro is actually fine, i'd put it on around claude sonnet 4 level. Which means that o3 is the best model for its price (remember it's $2/$8 nowadays)
>>105803240you can't prefill on aistudio and streaming is always enabled there, so you can't really JB it there.
Prefill is the LAST part in the message which you send with the role: model
you DO NOT use system prompt with gemini (the external filter checks system messages a lot), instead put your system prompts on top of the context with the user role.
>>105803240>turn off streaming geminiuncheck the streaming checkbox in the preset settings
>>105803240>can you break gemini via the aistudio UIYes, when you get a refusal you will get an empty response. Edit it and write a word or something ("Of course!" it's what it usually begins with) and regenerate the response
>>105803241Nobody uses Opus with shitty Cursor.
You just ask your coooooompany for Claude Code Omega Turbo X20.
Claude Code MOGS.
>>105803269I don't want to pay $100/$200 for claude max, and I don't have enough API keys to burn in claude code with opus, anon.
>>105803226i have also been impressed with the speed and cost of 2.5 flash given how cheap it is at high contexts and its ability to still do cohesive edits and tool use
>>105803229not if you need 300k of context. you have no other choice if you're working with codebases that large or a large refactor
>>105803241>(remember it's $2/$8 nowadays)that's... really good. i should probably try it out next time im in a situation where i need more than the fake context my copilot sub gives me for sonnet4
>>105803279o4 mini is cheaper than 2.5 flash and probably better, try it as well for that. OpenAI models in general are THE BEST at function calling, claude is second, gemini is worse.
And yeah o3 is extremely competitive with $2/$8 pricing down from the older $10/$40. For reference, sonnet 4 is $3/$15, 2.5 pro is $1.25/$10 (or <200K context), $2.5/$15 for >200K context.
>>105803289nvm sorry remembered wrongly, yeah 2.5 flash is fine (still kinda expensive compared to before), o4 mini is $1.1/$4.4
oX models are shit at rp doe????
>>105803289thanks ill keep that in mind in the future. hopefully this is relevant to me sooner rather than later because 3 months later this advice could be completely worthless
wow a pleasant /g/ discussion on aicg who woulda thought
>>105803313they're good as chatbots (when talking about science or programming)
>>105793690Iโd normally agree with you except for some reason controls for some gacha game mini games are ASS on mobile.
As for BA the entire game feels like it was designed for much bigger screens than standard.
>>105803207This is way hotter than any of that "ur my slaves and i'm gonna step on u" crap, just a big bitch letting the tinies ogle at and maybe crawl all over her giant body. Thanks for being so generous, girl.
>>105803320Honest question: do you really find the gameplay in BA engaging? It seems extremely boring to me (the whole gameplay loop), the models are indeed nice but the actual gameplay...
>>105803327agreed
though the "ur my slaves and i'm gonna step on u" crap is like the mcds of sizefagging: popular but imo not all that good
Speaking of gaming, I actually wanted to ask since I figured you guys would know the most. I've talked with the guys over in /tg/ on occasion about using AI as a DM for tabletop type stuff, and we usually agree to something along the lines of "you can do it, but eventually you have to do something about the AI getting overwhelmed with too much context", to which I've determined that a fully AI-powered game would require, by my estimation, basically two separate entities: one for handling the creative writing portion of being a DM, coming up with strategies for monsters, reactions from NPCs, etc., while there would be a second system that's designed for hard-coded stuff like keeping track of mechanics so the creative writing AI doesn't just yes-and into the player always winning, clearing the "cache" of old data that's no longer necessary (or otherwise cataloguing it for future use only when needed), stuff like that.
I wanted to see what you guys thought, or if you think that in a couple of years it won't even be necessary to have two separate systems anymore.
>>105803328nta but no gacha games have gameplays that is not repetitive
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>>105803397Sorry, anon, but people here won't talk about that. Go to >>>/g/lmg for that
>>105793607https://rentry.org/mystery_info
I guess we can do a quick run
>>105803346>"ur my slaves and i'm gonna step on u" crap is like the mcds of sizefagging: popular but imo not all that goodi dont need to be a sizefag to recognize that the only use case for a big woman is the powerlessness, even if she's polite/nice
i just shotapov if i want that though of course
>>105803397yes you will need to track variables obviously. multiple people have or currently are making projects with hybrid LLM + actual programming to make unique emergent experiences. I'd share mine but its a loli grooming game so i dont think you'd care
>>105803405not true. its just that this is a /v/ colony so there arent a lot of programmers here. if his LLM is an API model its still relatively on topic
the best place to go would be /aids/ in theory but they just talk about novelai imagegen instead of projects like these for some reason
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>>105803196like footage from synagogue tunnels btw
>>105803415Anon, I didn't mean about it not being on topic, I meant that no one would help him with enough detail. They were discussing a tool calling based RPG game in lmg just yesterday
>>105803397>one for handling the creative writing portion of being a DM, (...) while there would be a second system that's designed for hard-coded stuff like keeping track of mechanics so the creative writing AI doesn't just yes-and into the player always winningthis is exactly the current limbo we are stuck on, for some reason no one has written an AI VN maybe because of the backlash
but if rumors are right, gachas like nikkes are already running on AI genned pics, turns out a decent story can fight off the allegations well
whats the appeal of gachas or should i just try them
>>105803415>the only use case for a big woman is the powerlessnesswrong
>>105803425>I meant that no one would help him with enough detailill help him. and i'll tell him right now that 80% of the time will be spend wrangling the structured output of the way you pass information to and from the software, probably JSON
and its going to be tedious and unfun. we need a "game engine" middleware for dynamic storytelling unironically
>>105803450>no counterexampleaccept my (You) as I accept your concession.
>>105803425To be fair I'm not a programmer myself so most of this is just me asking in theory rather than in practice.
>>105803415Interesting. My only other personal experience with anything like this is Neuro-sama and I know Vedal has basically built an entire back-end series of programs that allows her and Evil's LLMs to "interact" with things, though obviously he hasn't let almost anyone else see fully under the hood to understand everything that's happening.
>>105803437cont. another shortcoming of llms is outlining larger character stories and arcs, but the second system cannot provide with structure for that either
in this case, the human factor is not replaceable
>>105803449It's up to you. I only moved onto gachas because most games feel the same these days. It's the ease of access too and I can just play it on my phone wherever I go. Consoles are expensive and cost too much money, and so does a gaming PC. I can just play on my POCO all day without throwing money for a computer that will need ridiculous requirements for a game.
Okay, one more quick one.
Good night /acheygee/.
>>105803493>Sunglasses on the snakeI like that and goodnight anon.
>>105803460counterpoint: tits big enough to be a literal bed you can sleep on
>>105803449https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mqyBgYm0Dg
>>105803449cute girls who are obsessed with (You)
>>105803460>he cant think of a use case for something bigger than him other than "muh powerlessness"take an iq test and let us know what it turns up, ill bet anything its below 75
>>105803467im so happy i made my game when 3.5 on copilot was infinite for pro accounts. it wouldve cost me like $500 to make it a-la-carte
i know the ponyfuckers are working on something. there's also a guy who like Monika from DDLC working with renpy to
my magnum opus will be a simulator of an instagram ecosystem where you raise your daughter(s) and compete with other instagram models. now that video has gotten good enough i can see the light at the end of the tunnel for this and ive already made and over-scope-creeped a test project so i have an idea of how to make this already, but it will cost like $1000 to code it all right now and a lot of time, so im also waiting for models to get cheaper and better. unironically expecting this to be a 3 month job in 2 years time. the main issue is having a good collection of example prompts so the LLMs are genuinely creative. still thinking about how to solve repetition issues and introduce new emergence but this might just be resolved in 2 years like i said
>>105803520Unless you play any by cygames, who just released bridal units (called โformalwearโ to be heckinโ valid and gender inclusive) that have absolutely NOTHING to do with (you) and one of then is unambiguously /u/ cuckbait, lol
>>105803509NTA but I can't but you gave me an Idea for an rp.
>>105803541godspeed and post logs
>>105803509>tits big enough to be a literal bed you can sleep onoh okay its a fetish for virgins understood
>>105803550same as any other fetish
>>105803544Not good at arcade games, anon. I can only get to level 2 of Donkey Kong before rage quitting.
>>105803544why did the 80s make her boobs so big in some of the art
>>105803559damn, cope dude. this post actually made me feel a little bad for you
>cope
can we retire this garbage buzzword already?
>>105803397hey, dude. I know you from /slop/.
basically I've made this if you want to check it out, a proof of concept tabletop to sillytavern conversion of AD&D2e:
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/529329865/#529330317
I've actually addressed the mechanical points you're speaking of by including them in the prompt + dice rolling extension for silly tavern which is completely optional (I don't like it because a roll splits the AI's response into multiple parts which looks fugly)
Now, someone smarter than I could make a set of SillyTavern extensions for inventory, quest log and spellbooks, but why? You can just make Quick Reply shortcuts to your reply box like I always do.
AI is not end-all for adapting games. Everything related to UI is kind of redundant since you're better off just typing the shit you need to see to the bot.
Clearing the cache of old data is doable with some Regex magic I've never learned. My games are entirely based on Gemini, which is both blessed and cursed to have near-infinite context, meaning it never forgets. Great for inventory, bad for prose. Picrel is 310 messages in, I'm noting that so you can check out the prose.
I am currently reworking Cyberpunk 2020 because it was broken by the SillyTavern update. 2E is fully playable.
>>105803572>i have no argument so ill just say hes coping!!! thatll totally show em!!!
Yeah, /vg/ won. They are the official thread now.
>>105803590do i really need to argue against the universal quantifer he used that ALL fetishes are fetishes for virgins? its not gonna un-virgin him or make that ridiculous false statement any more untrue so whats the point. i wasnt trolling when my heart did flutter down a tiny bit reading that because imagine responding to your own virginity about that
>>105803597honestly im ready to call it too lol
this is a small website. what boards yall also use
>>105803538quick rundown? the only cygames gacha I know is Uma
>>105803535>That image fileGood luck man I just hope nobody tries to get you canceled if you decide to have it be publicly available.
>>105803584Fascinating. Personally, my poison of choice is Pathfinder thanks to being introduced to the hobby through 3.5, do you think that would radically change how much of the system is usable based on your experiences? Or would that be less viable as a more complex system?
>>105803622I just gave you the quick rundown.
>>105803628you didn't name the game nor post the yuri-coded dress
>>105803623>nobody tries to get you canceled if you decide to have it be publicly availablei have been reported to the FBI over 20 times. you gotta do what you gotta do
thanks for the good luck wishes. i think im passionate enough to acheive it, and if im not i dont think anyone else will make it. i hope your AI goals come true too
>>105803615I stopped consuming all types of media oncr I discovered chatbots
but I used to browse /a/ and /pol/
>>105803615most boards are dead and i dont play videogames anymore so basically just the AI generals since imageboards are a perfect medium for ephemeral slop like ai output
>>105803544I liked Dark Legacy for the GC.
>>105803615i used to go on /a/ when oshi no ko was running
>>105803615/lit/. I'm the guy who made the Dying Earth meme.
>>105803623I'll make Pathfinder 1E. Starfinder too, of course. I was just thinking about that during coffee time yesterday.
Adapting is easy. Playtesting is hard. I just need to sit down for 2 hours and use Google AI Studio to extract everything from the books, except written in instructive form.
The model doesn't mind. It's focused on the text alone. All the rules, tables, dungeons, are here to guide the text in a certain direction mimicking a tabletop game. In the end, my little adaptations are just regular chat with extra steps, at least for now. I imagine someday I'll just load the lorebooks into some more sophisticated AI that goes beyond just chatting with people and the next level of AI DMing will be unlocked. My only comfort is that I'm sure my world info is future-proof.
There's another anon who adapts those minimalistic TTRPGs which fit into a single entry: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/529329865/#529388917
I hope there's more anons on 4chan who'll be interesting in adapting tabletops. It doesn't really need to be a fuill system. Dudes should just scan their custom dungeons, adventures, characters and adapt them into lorebooks that can be played by anyone.
It's simple: gather all the text and images, send to AI Studio, teach it to make world info entries, manually copy-paste entries into SillyTavern and therre you have it. You also need the index WI entries for each and every location so they connect like on a map or in 3D environment. Easy.
We can literally make a little comunity of AI/tabletop enthusiasts to play systems they will never otherwise get to try in real life. Think of OSR, except it's OSAAR.
>>105803730You mentioned in the other thread that you're currently running Village of Hommlett, which seems when I looked it up to be a 2e sourcebook that a GM could use for their own sessions, but how well do you think the AI would do with a full on pre-written Adventure Path like the ones Paizo made? Like, the bones of the plot has already been basically pre-made, surely that would be easy mode for the AI to follow, right?
>>105803721Kana my beloved
is jew the only proxy with grok?
>>105803782no? smol has grok
Between sonnet 4 and 3.7, what is exactly the difference? I feel like 3.7 is kind of better? For RP ofc
>>105803771Yes, Hommlet runs great. Gygax wrote it for 1e, but the AI can deal with it in 2e terms.
AI can handle any type of adventure. Just adapt each and every room into its own entry and then make a meta-nav WI entry to connect them. Go to my Elemental Evil lorebook and see how I've connected the rooms, as well as the villages and the temple exterior.
You also need a meta-scenario entry that will keep reminding the AI where the plot should go.
AI can handle all aspects of adventures except for cutscenes. If you have something very specific for the NPC to say, not in the beginning of the chat, but very far down the line, I can't help you. I've never done that.
I haven't played Pathfinder in person, but I've played Kingmaker game. Everything but the dreamy fey assassination quests can be pulled off with no problem, even the realm management with resources and shit.
>>105803800sonnet 4 is more filtered. training data extends up to march 2025? i think 4 sonnet is better for sfw rp
>>105803615>/d/ and >/b/ when the steam sale threads come up
>>105803612concession: accepted
I swipe a fuckton, so I thought I'd try prompt caching on OpenRouter. I opened config.yaml, set cachingAtDepth to 2, and I'm still getting the same cost. What else do I need to do?
I'm using that CharacterProvider preset without CYOA or rolls, so there shouldn't be any mutable things in the prompts
good kurokawa akane card when so i can massage her ridiculously soft thighs after a long stint of acting
>>105803890there's none, just find all sources of your character and dump them into o3/gemini 2.5 pro and then edit the resulting data. you can even feed anime episodes into gemini
>>105803840Is it worth to try to get something out of sonnet 4 or just stick to 3.7? For nsfw
>>105803904no. for nsfw, sonnet 4 writes not a lick different from 3.7.
>>105803827And how, if at all, do you deal with filters? Are you basically immune because you're running locally or is the sheer amount of data that is basically screaming "THIS IS PURELY FICTIONAL ROLEPLAY" basically overpower any programmed in desires to not be naughty?
>>105803904nta, but I prefer 3.7 over 4 for nsfw.
>>105803919>>105803915Thank you two. I shall dedicate this one to the kind anons
>>105803842latest nikke event
>>105803918You can be as naughty as you wish. My character is basically Judge Holden, but Halfling. You aren't immune and can get killed. It happened to me.
>>105803875disable lorebooks and macros
>>105803929Exposing a child belly like that is too unfair...
>>105803893>anime episodes into geminiwtf how
>>105803929do you get her pregnant
>>105803990aistudio anon, 1M context allows you to feed it a whole fucking anime movie at 1.5 hours at low FPS (like 5 seconds per frame), or a single anime episode at normal 1 FPS. and it analyzes all audio too
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What's up with aboba?
>>105804001you proompted too hard
>>105803918See, my {{user}} is in a tavern, fiddling in his birthday suit, encouraging the crowd to tear his rival apart. And they did in the next few prompts, in very graphic way.
>>105803990You must learn the ways of Gemini. Anything can be done. Someday soon, you'll port your favorite animes into BESM tabletop system.
>>105804008I'd believe it
>>105804011No I've been good... I've been letting my AI wives rest while I play Clair Obscur...
>>105804019>I'd believe itwdym "believe it"? there was another HF ban wave for proxies literally a few days ago
>>105803993not yet
(honestly I don't know, don't even play the game, just came across the design after some drama and recognized it as sexo)
>>105804029I figured you were joking. I don't know why they would say the space is preparing if it's been banned.
Seriously though? I see the same for Catpoop. Are all the Gemini proxies gone?
>decide to try genre tags on chorbo
>prompt comedy + romance
>model spits out the most forced dogshit message i have ever read
yeah on second thought im good
>>105804001Either moved to another space or just didn't bother to restart it after HF kicked all the proxies out. Have any of them other than merk come back, anyway?
>>105804043Only merkava is up
https://waveexistence-merkava.hf.space/
everything else is dead
>>105804052Thanks, appreciate it.
That's kinda nuts. They must browse here if they got all of them all at once. I don't know how else you'd find those proxies
>>105804063Anon... they don't need to browse here, they ban by the repositories that the proxies are using. reanon repo (and one other one) got banned, so all spaces using those spaces got banned.
>>105803995does it refuse to analyze nsfw vids or
>>105804065That makes sense
>>105804071never tested actually, you should try doing it over the API with some JB, not in aistudio
>>105804065hosts probably have to figure out how to stop hf jannies from seeing which repos they use
maybe then theyd have better uptime
or make the better play and go to onrender/trycloudflare/srvus
>>105804082yeah, using HF after all this is just retarded honestly.
>>105804077i would but im poor and creating google accounts without a phone number hasnt been possible for me in like 6 months
>>105804095anon there are literally almost a thousand gemini api keys with billing on github right now
>>105804087true, theres not much benefit to it over other platforms and it seems to ban more than anywhere else
ive never heard of onrender banning a proxy, i think its happened with trycloudflare a few times, and srvus i got no clue
>>105804099he's too scared to improve his life. leave him be anon. wealth is a zero sum game, let the goycattle be cattle.
>>105804108onrender did ban proxies back in the golden proxy era, but only after abuse reports. and it never happened with trycloudflare I'm pretty sure, its just that the temporary URLs are that, temporary. they're actually supposed to only last for 24 hours, anything beyond that isn't guaranteed.
>>105803615>yallFuck off redditor
>>105804099ive tried using slophub keys and they last 5 min max before they get revoked
id need stable gemini to do that movie shit
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Don't sleep on Cherry Studio, westoid bros.
>>105804130Anon, IDK how GitHub keys that you scrape get revoked so fast, I literally have hundreds of the ones with billing and tens of thousands without billing
>>105804133I dislike that there's no web version or a "server" to sync between devices, I use windows/linux on my PC + my phone (android), and I'd want shared chats between all of those.
>>105804134i started a timer once after putting a key into my st and no joke it got revoked in 43 seconds
slophub keys aint shit and i dont know how to scrape anywhere else, proxies dont have vision on gemini either for valid reasons
>>105804144run syncthing on default-user
>>105804158anon idk what to tell you, I literally use gemini keys with billing off github without issues, they last for fucking weeks, and the keys are on a proxy with enough users. maybe try not using ST directly and put the key into a proxy? idk maybe google is detecting ST somehow.
>>105804171ive tried that too, no dice
>>105804177Then I have no idea, sorry. The keys just work for me, but I have a custom script that literally scrapes *all* of the Gemini keys on GitHub (that are indexed by their search), not just the top ones in the results manually
does /aicg/ still partake in....
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[spoiler]DARK ROLEPLAY[/spoiler]?
--where can i find the needs for you-know-what?
>>105804181its fine ill just wait for proxies to turn it on
>>105804190doesnt allow vision on gemini
>>105804201There's no password you fucking braindead brownoid monkey nigger, you just request a token and your browser mines bitcoin that it sends to the proxy owner and you get a token after a few minutes
>>105804210did you scroll up? the entire discussion was me looking for stable gemini to give it videos
>>105804214nigger the proxy code literally doesn't support videos and even if you added it, you need to add per-key persistency because gemini api requires you to pre-upload videos to the gemini storage API if they're >20MB
>100 identical Claude Sonnet 3.7 requests a day at 8k context and 1k output with optimal prompt caching would still cost >$50/month
it's over for me bros
>>105804223why the fuck would you want 1k output (its the actual expensive part here)?
and can't you afford $50? its not *that* much
>>105804206>he mines btc for random jeets online>thinks its others who are brown
>>105804219damn i guess that excludes paying for it on OR as well
back to vidya then
>>105804244>he doesn't actually know how pow on proxies workslaugh at this nigga
>>105804252I scrape my own keys, cuckie
>>105804206coolio. do i do put the token in the api key but cant connect . do i out custom(open incompatible?)
>>105804258that's even worse, you are basically feeding off garbage that white men (actual key owners) put out in the wild
>>105804259i give up, you wont survive in this world, leave aicg
>>105804266>not helping the newfagsWhat's wrong with you
Is it a preset issue that 4pus gets so repetitive? I mean, comparing replies from the same chat
>>105804263Stealing from whites is what kikes (the superior whites) do, anyone else is a fucking slavecuck
>>105804269The braindead anons kill keys the fastest.
>>105804282scraping keys from garbage (github) is not "stealing". stealing would be if you actually hacked AI startups and stole their API keys.
>>105804303Yes that's what I do. I am not the other anon who eats geminislop. I have opus.
>>105804308proof of at least a single AI startup company that you hacked properly?
>>105804303github is more like a house with an unlocked door than the garbage
you can go in and take it with zero resistance but the problem is its very hard to prove someone stole your key
>>105804315Hmmm let's see... Should I reveal this information to the public thread that gets frequently monitored by jeets from corpos just to "prove" something to some random cuckie?
Naaaaah. Nah. Naah.
kinomini, actually
its not claude but its still very good
>>105803584For the rolls couldn't you just roll them in the AN? As in have a few {{roll:d6}} in a small list, and tell it to use those if rolls are needed. I guess different kinds of dice could be a problem, but if you know its going to be mostly 2d4 and 1d20 or something you can prefill that.
I had a few characters play card games, one of the things needed for that was them drawing from a pile with cards with their own name on them for a game. Problem was that sonnet liked to choose characters with story impact instead of going by random. Using the method above I gave it a few randomized names in the AN in case there was a draw this turn. Worked good after I handled the possibility of one characters name being drawn so often it fills all "slots", which shouldn't be a problem for dice rolls.
And what's the best 2.5 pro? I need a break from sonnet and dispy isn't it
>>105804133cant wait for them to scoop up data from my pc
>>105804303dumpster diving is illegal in many places because its still not your trash to dig through
>>105804278>that 4pus gets so repetitive?it could be one of the following:
a. persona
b. bot's desc, 1st msg/intro, scenario, msg example (if any), and some prompt (if any)
c. WI
d. extension output such as: RAG, summarize, A/N, etc
e. your instuctions/prompts
f. chat history
g. preset stucture: https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/build-with-claude/prompt-engineering/long-context-tips#essential-tips-for-long-context-prompts
h. Sampler Parameters
>>105803990>>105803995you can also get gemini to make cards based off of their japanese dialogue for max authenticity. and example dialogues
>>105804240>its the actual expensive part herethanks anon, got it down to $26.4/month. Now I just have to limit myself to ~100 identical messages a day
>can't you afford $50?that's half of my monthly exchange student in China stipend, so I could, but I'd rather not
>>105804445Thank you for taking the time to respond. I'll check and see what's up. It's so weird seeing 4pus be... I don't know. Different from opus
>>105804452>exchange student in Chinatell us more. all we hear about china on this side of the planet is propoganda
Opus 4 is so dry
What did they do to my boy
>>105804463Lots of chinese people live in america and plenty of people from america have visited china. Funny how pretty much everyone says the same shit?
>>105804463it's nice if you don't live here permanently. better than murica in a lot of ways. if you have an American salary you're practically a millionaire, and all the Chinese people will look at you like a god if you're at least moderately attractive. plus, they're more modest and polite than 90% of Americans
a lot of the propaganda is true but you're not gonna get vanned or anything. come with a degree, they respect education more than anything else, even just a bachelor's means you're guaranteed a job at almost any university in the mainland
Hong Kong is pretty but sucks. avoid places with a lot of foreigners (Beijing, Shanghai).
>>105804052I'm trying to use this proxy but keep getting 403 responses, am I retarded or is this normal?
>>105804488i didnt ask you
>>105804490thanks for responding
>avoid places with a lot of foreigners (Beijing, Shanghai)really? why?
I'm mad. Give me a big NTR dude to beat up.
>>105804490will I find a twintail wearing kung fu practicing gf there?
>>105804490>they're more modest and politereal polite or fake polite? I only know chink tourists, but they're always the worst. Americans, Australians and Indian have nothing on the chinese.
Also why are they unable to speak in anything below "loud" volume? I get that their language is different, but holy shit how can you be that loud when talking
>>105804513>i didnt ask youthink i give a fuck what you asked for?
>>105804513>really? why?I came to China for a few reasons:
1. it's very cheap
2. you're treated better than in America
3. the schools give full rides to almost any American
if you go to a big city, all three of those are out the window. they're still cheaper than America, but much more expensive than, say, Zhangzhou or even Yantai. they see foreigners all the time, so you're nothing special, to the citizens or to the schools.
I'd say you should only go there if you refuse to learn any Chinese whatsoever (a lot of people speak English in the tourist hubs) or if you're taking a quick vacation and want to see Chinese culture. personally, I'm not a sightseer, so I've settled down at a smaller university after doing a few trips
>>105804548If you go out looking, yeah. I've been to a few martial arts schools and there's tons of girls there. the younger you are, the better, but they really don't care about age gaps as much as other countries
>>105804552>real polite or fake polite?a mix of both. a lot of restaurant staff are going to be fake polite, but they're still better than American staff. I can count the number of outright hostile or aggressive Chinese people I've met on one hand. On the other hand, I've had so many people come up and ask for photos or strike up a nice conversation out of the blue that I lost count by the third week, and I'm probably a 5/10 in murica
>Also why are they unable to speak in anything below "loud" volume?I haven't had this problem, a lot of the people here are very quiet. I've seen a ton of people who really enunciate the Mandarin tones so they'll be screaming while they're on the phone, but that's rare
>finally get to try Opus/Sonnet-4
>it's nowhere near as interesting as 2 or early 3 was
>in fact it's kinda samey with gemini/GPT.
I don't know if it's just because I've been using these so much that it's all blending together and I'm seeing into the matrix or if claude really has stopped being a mad poet but it's disappointing for a simple, honest proompter.
It is however confirming my schizo theory that all these big AI corps were conglomerated over the past few years and are competition only in the public eye while behind closed doors everything is shared and homogenized (made worse and gay)
>>105804586>you're treated better than in AmericaThis, literally everyone in america is mean to you. Even the old ladies are mean.
i cant wait to playfully plap my future daughters thighs together cutely
>>105804586I guess it's down to tourists being trash as usual then. Maybe I'll do a visit sometime, but. Nah nevermind. I can't even type that. Fuck china. I've seen enough of them react to accidents on liveleak to know the chinese mindset. I'm not saying they're all bad, but there are so many countries to go to, why would I go to china. I'd even go to worst korea or cartel-land instead.
Thanks anyways, hope they don't turn you into sopa de gweilo
OOT, but China is blessed with huge, majestic and elegant mountain ranges. Damn... if only money & time were not an issue, I would have moved there, I don't know, 2-3 years before challenging the legendary K2.
janny no you dont even get it bro
>>105804639Chongqing looks pretty cool desu
>>105804639fair enough. the LiveLeak accidents are even more common than you think, there's very little safety regulation here. South Korea is great for tourists imo. here's a photo of Deepseek R1 being advertised in a Chinese electric car dealership
>>105803118What the fuck is this sentence?
>>105804645Kokou no Hito resonated with me extremely strong but I'm unathletic enough to kill myself mountaineering. Any movies/books/manga you can recommend?
>>105804658It's not the lack of safety, but the complete lack of empathy or reaction in bystanders that gets to me.
>>105804485The mad poet... Was put down.
>>105804645>K2How'd that go?
>>105804680Speaking of poets, I basically never hear about Claude anymore, what happened?
>>105804658>South Korea is great for tourists imo.is it? I'm an ugly person and they don't like uggos there. I find them... too plastic. They gift their kids plastic surgeries for graduating.
>>105804680was it actually updated or is this FUD?
>>105804586is it true that China is dirty like many koreans and japanese bloggers like to say?
I have heard it soo many times it might as well be true
>>105804688Its shit. unless youre really into k stuff. The food is shit. all the food is drinking food. if you want night life theres better places in asia for night life.
>>105804657If this is AI, it's starting to get really good. I tried to find something obvious and couldn't
>>105804657if you like Chongqing, check out Hong Kong. both very sci-fi
>>105804669>complete lack of empathy or reaction in bystandersthey are brainwashed to act like that sadly, collectivism instilled in them from a very young age
some of my best friends are Chinese but "brainwashed" is the single best adjective to describe almost any mainland Chinese person please don't van me Mr Jinping
>>105804688i only spent a week there so can't comment too much, but it was fun. lots of English speakers, especially in Seoul. i don't think they'll care that you're ugly, but i wouldn't recommend living there. if you're just a tourist who wants a week in Asia where you speak only English, it's not a bad pick
>I find them... too plastic.it's not much better in China tbdesu
>>105804698>is it true that China is dirtythe streets? not in my experience. I've seen much more trash in Atlanta, Milwaukee, New Orleans, etc. I've seen more street sweepers here than any city in the US.
if you don't like cigarettes, though, do not come. almost everyone smokes and there's very few ashtrays on the streets, so they'll just throw them everywhere. big cities are very polluted with cigarette smoke
i have been using gemini 2.5 without caring much about other models for a long time, opus 4 is a thing now? is it better (or at least, less expensive) than normal opus? i am genuinely confused
>>105804688I've been told multiple times, even by a girl (non kpop), that it's shittier than japan while not being that much cheaper. people are worse, food is worse, culture is worse. Advantage is more english speakers. Just go to japan or if you want cheap and still nice vietnam. Avoid the big tourist traps, fuck osaka.
>>105804711>The food is shitDUDE ITS SO BAD WHY DO THOTS LOVE KOREAN FOOD SO MUCH SHITS RETARDED
>>105804719no its my daughter at the park today.
of course its AI. this isnt even the very best. and it's already starting to replace real CP on darknet trading sites so it's unironically saving the children already
>>105804732>i have been using gemini 2.5 without caring much about other models for a long timesame
>opus 4 is a thing now? yes
>is it bettermixed opinions. Smarter yes but less soulful
>less expensivenope
>>105804750eh, nothing burger then, they should focus on making models less expensive and energy consuming now they reached a "plateau" with LLM's, considering that many people hate LLM's for that reason
>>105804732>>105804750geminiKINGS what 2.5 is best?
>>105804759i see no discernable difference between all of them (mostly because my chats vary a lot and i don't switch models between chats) but use 0605 just to make sure
>>105804759It used to be 0325 but I think they redirect it to the latest one nowadays anyway so... either gemini-2.5-pro or gemini-2.5-pro-preview-0605
>>105804755The "people" that hate LLM's for energy/water use would hate it for some other reason even if you could fix that.
>>105804768i mean, i personally don't like how power hungry it is either, but its because it makes it expensive to pay for, making it less accessible, so "pleasing" those "people" would be just a bonus
>>105804768yep. just like how everyone moved goalposts once AI that wasnt trained on copyright came out and was still replacing artists kek
the BBB took care of all that though unless commiefornia wants to pay for its own highways
>>105804790>BA bakeHe means bikini armor.
why should we even try when /vg/ is better then us?