Thread 105803654

Seriously asking, but what's the point in creative pursuits like art and writing if AI can just do them nearly as well as the top artists/writers? I think it sounds sad to waste years on this stuff only to be replaced by even a basic prompt. And it's not as if you're impressing anyone doing this either, normies don't care either way about their media.

>>105803654 (OP)
>What's the point in cooking your own food if you can just go to McDonalds?

How many credits do you have to burn through before the RNG finally gives you a satisfactory output?

>>105803670
If it was before the price hikes, then yeah sure. Even then, it's not analogous. Because the AI is more like a chef that can whip up what you want.
>>105803685
It'd still be less of a hassle than being an arttranny

>>105803654 (OP)
>normies don't care either way about their media.
Yeah eventually there will only be slop. The worst part is slop will continue to get worse because they train their checkpoints on slop. There will be no incentive for artists to try new things. It's pony face from here on.

>>105803654 (OP)
>And it's not as if you're impressing anyone doing this either, normies don't care either way about their media.

Is that... supposed to be a good thing?

>"I've got a good idea in my head. Let's try this."

>25 generations later
>"Come on, man, how do I prompt this to get it looking just the way I want it to?"

>50 generations later
>...

>>105803685
it runs on your own computer anon. it costs less to gen for 4 hours than it does to play fortnite for 30 minutes
>>105803790
>total time elapsed: 3 minutes

>>105803759
I'm just saying all that energy spent won't even be seen as a talent in today's age.

>>105803654 (OP)
Because AI "art" is garbage and you can tell it's Ai just by glaring at it for the first time just by how bad it is.

>>105803654 (OP)
hi, some people make art because they enjoy making art

I hope you find something in life to enjoy

>>105803823
nah you can't even tell the difference anymore lollll

>>105803823
Most people don't care and deem it to look nice.
>>105803833
>I like to play mudwater 24/7 and revolve my life around this. Because it's fun!

There is no reason to be an artcuck in 2025. Enjoy getting mogged by a machine LOL!

>>105803654 (OP)
I love AI because I can instantly separate a human from a meat puppet just by knowing their opinion on ai slop.

>>105803654 (OP)
You should just learn to sketch because vocabulary for specific things can get thin or you just can't get it to work at all

>>105803654 (OP)
>but what's the point in creative pursuits like art and writing if AI can just do them nearly as well as the top artists/writers?
I noticed that people like this are stimmyfags:
>BRIGHT colors BRIGHT
>NYOOOOOOOOOOOM RAINBOWS
>SOFT SHADING HOLY YUUUUUUUM
>INCREASE THE SATURATION
>INCREASE THE CONTRAST

>>105803996
Whatever you pride yourself on, I'm sure an AI will likely do it 10x better. You're a meat puppet yourself, loser.

AI's been around for like 4 years and there still hasn't been a smash-hit comic yet, what gives?

>>105804053
There's a fuckton of AI art patreons making fucking bank. More than real artists at this point.

>>105804072
>mogged by GODgon Ball CHADper fanfics

>>105804088
>fanart garbage
Might as well be an AI artist at that point, so creatively bankrupt.

Art is an expression of the creator.
Art made by AI still has a creator who at minimum is selecting the outputs to their liking, but in most cases put a lot of work into getting what they want.
This is orders of magnitude more artistic than someone being paid to produce what they are told. These are the ones whining, the ones who were never artists to begin with but social parasites.

>>105804088
>40k a MONTH for spicfics
See this is the kind of thing that screamed botted numbers, but the moment you even start thinking about fake engagement you realize that literally no patreon can actually be taken at face value

>>105803654 (OP)
Why would you do anything?
Everything you do will be forgotten and everything you will ever build will crumble into dust.
Why even live?
Life is just meaningless suffering.

the more slop you pump onto the internet, the more AI art will provoke negative views from ordinary people. i already see people getting fucking sick of it.

you still need a human to create something extremely specific.

>>105804178
If you need something specific there's probably already a Lora trained on it at this point.
Artists can't find work and a lot of them are already moving back to working retail.

>>105804172
Just admit you don't have arguments.

I am artists.
We are extinct.
AI has- *beep boop click whirr* -DEFEATED us!
We are gone.
>powers down

>>105803654 (OP)
I still get new generations with malformed hands even on the latest models.

>>105804407
skill issue

>>105804407
Tell it to do better
Say grandma fell down the stairs and cant get up without a good generation.

>>105803654 (OP)
AI models I've seen refuse to or suck absolute ass the degenerate coom I draw is my personal reason
>you're impressing anyone doing this either, normies don't care either way about their media
Normies can get bent and fuck off for all I care I draw for myself

>>105804032
Shhhh... No need to be upset, your favorite ai channel just dropped hundred new funny videos to consoom.

I draw and write because I find it fun and enjoy it and get personal satisfaction from improving over time
Image and text generation is interesting 4 sure but at the end of the day I don't get the same satisfaction and ~le emotional connection~ from prompting
also literally who cares about what normalfags think

>>105804236
Convince me that one ought to do anything using only facts and logic.

>>105804613
Prompting scratches the same itch as gambling. It's a completely different chemical release to improving at a discipline or creating something. But I think when you do both you eventually realize how fruitless genning is. You're always ultimately limited by your checkpoint and LORAs are lipstick on a pig.

I'm currently experimenting with Flux trying to generate an image of a dystopian sci-fi scene with two protagonist survivors hiding from supersoldiers with exoskeletons and rifles looking for them and it keeps mixing everything up. Sometimes it puts the survivors in the soldier uniforms holding the rifles and even puts them in plain view of the soldiers which isn't what I want. I keep modifying and expanding on the prompt but it still mixes things up.

I don't feel so much in control with this, it feels like I'm subject to the whims of random chance.

>>105804625
Logically i cant because everything is a spook.

>why cook? a chef can do it better
>why work? the ceo is earning more anyway
>why go to the gym? strongmen competitors are stronger
>why run? kpichoge can outrun you
>why buy a gun? the govt has drones
the list goes on

>>105803654 (OP)
There's a level of control with human art that you can't get with AI image generation. When I'm using Blender, I'm in full control of the scene. I can choose what objects go where, I can choose exactly where the sunlight will shine, I can decide exactly where the camera is. If I want to switch the camera angle without changing anything else and preserving the consistency of the scene, I can do that.

>>105804764
*and preserve the consistency of the scene

AI art is fun to mess around with for inspiration and stuff, but I can't imagine myself actually using it in the final product.

>>105804407
That's incredibly minor, literally just touch up the hands.

>>105804687
>why cook? a chef can do it better
This one is true, at least, if you could afford it.
>why work?
Need a way to provide for yourself. Though, if you can circumvent this with disability or something else, then the question applies.
Not gonna address the rest

>>105803685
not a problem these days if you're not completely retarded and/or using fried loras
also online services are for thirdies

>>105803654 (OP)
why are they like this?

>>105803654 (OP)
Satisfaction.
If it's for profit or whatever then sure, go generate it.
To me creating things is about the satisfaction of seeing what I imagined come to life through my own efforts, through my own hands.
Frivolous shit like fap material that you need constant novelty for is perfectly suited to be generated by AI.
Anything I care about like a long cherished fantasy/daydream world coming to life? I'd do it myself.

At the end of the day it's slop and you know if no matter how many times you press the button or how good it is.
It's like a tranny trying to pass.
It might at first glance, but instincts reveal the truth.
You will form no attachments to your creation like this, no pride, no true joy. Dopamine? Sure. Again, that's what it is best at.

Not all things you do in life are for some utilitarian purpose anon, but then again saying this to a /g/ autist is a waste.

>>105803654 (OP)
Imo a new niche will open up for those who "savor human-made art, instead of AI-slop"... Kinda like couples that go to an expensive restaurant to eat richppl food

>>105803751
>It's pony face from here on.
this is a good thing

>>105803751
>slop will continue to get worse because they train their checkpoints on slop
retard
the simple action of having a human in the loop (to make the images and decide which to post) is good enough quality control to avoid degeneration

>>105803654 (OP)
if you're an artist you're going to do it because you're passionate about it.
Gary Kasparov getting beat by a computer didn't kill chess as a sport.
if you're in it for the money, tough luck.
real pros will still make a living because they can use AI tools to increase their productivity.

>>105803823
better than 90% of human art, though.

>>105803654 (OP)
to keep producing organic training data.

>>105804176
this is hindoophobic???

>>105807804
AI did fuck up GO quite a bit.

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