will AI steal our jobs ?

I never had a job to be stolen

turns out that employees do more than generate responses to prompts

I’m sure some junior/intern roles have disappeared, it depends on the company and what they want and who they can afford to hire. But programming as such - of course not. Have you even used LLMs for work? They can’t handle complexity, partly for technical reasons and partly because they’re optimized for benchmarks and demos where you shit out a reactjs app and post it on social media. “AI will take X jobs” has always been just marketing. The real utility is in much better autocomplete, small but tedious changes (“write a unit test for this”), and replacing google/stackoverflow which has been getting worse and worse for the last decade+. But that’s not what VCs want to hear

Someone dubbed an entire game with ai using famous voices.

>>105806504
Yeah, which is kind of AI's niche: tasteless slop for undiscerning people.

Job??

>>105805801 (OP)
ai is "stealing" our jobs since the 80's
if you didnt notice the process until now,
you probably wont notice the process in the future

>>105805801 (OP)
retards are a liability from now on

>>105806478
>I’m sure some junior/intern roles have disappeared
Anon, most people start shit as some sort of junior or intern (Not in programming, in general), how are you supposed to get to a position AI can't replace if square one is just AI?

>>105805801 (OP)
Younger generations will steal your jobs, as in noone cares about the stuff you learned 10 years ago because it has been automated, and you deeply despise the way things are heading towards, so you'd rather become a janitor instead.

>>105806677
(nta)
not in programming, in general?
i have yet to see an ai to bring a bag of plaster to the third floor, kek

>>105806727
I'll correct myself and add that meant not just in programming, but yeah. Genuine entry level jobs (Not shit like service where after you get to manager there isn't really anything above it simply by continuing to work there) disappearing is the reason the job market is as fucked up as it is now, programming is just catching up with the rest

>>105806746
>disappearing is the reason the job market is as fucked up as it is now,
yeah but its not ai-related
i mean, theres an effect, sure but the lack of entry jobs is caused by industry fucking off to chyna, its a process thats ongoing since years now

theres no entry jobs because the job market is oversaturated with competent people
who would want to bother with a junior when pretty much for the same cost you can get a competent worker?
>services
in the endgame- services is all theres left
this has hapenned all over europe
its happening to america too, except given the distances a service based economy CANNOT work in usa, (thence the strong arm interventionism like tariffs. are they optimal? idk. but something HAD to be done)

>>105805801 (OP)
the entire stealing jobs meme was made by corps who run and develop ai-slop in order to lure money from dumb and tech illiterate investors, and it is of course highly supported by hardware manufacturers. 10 years ago it was MUH BLOCKCHAIN, now it is MUH LLMs.
the only people actually making money with ai-slop are those selling hardware and those selling subscriptions for ai-slop services.
as of right it is only good to support or to speed-up some very specific usecases, or for porn generation, but it is light years away from replacing any real jobs.

>>105805801 (OP)
In a decade perhaps

>>105806775
we could be replacing jobs
the technology is available to do so, since mid 2000s at least
but it isnt worked on, not overtly at least

my theory is that money and wages are part of the apparatus of power and to maintain existing power structures, certain technologies are just left undeveloped

>>105805801 (OP)
If AI = Actually Indians take all the jobs, who will buy the goods and services?

>>105806788
also true. if you throw millions of workers on the street - who is going to pay their bills? govt cucks are gonna go bankrupt with unemployment checks and re-skilling programs. at best - the process will gradually transition workers over few decades. workers are not gonna go anywhere - they will be just re-skilled into something else (like prompt engineers).

>>105806478
I dont know anon, in 3 years I have seen it going from barely handling few snippets of code to now handling large parts of codebases.

Most skeptics said they will git a wall with data running out but with coding these AI companies can collect data from AI IDE's to figure out what human programmers are changing to A code to update their datasets for upcoming models. I don't see how coding AI Agents dont happen within this decade

Also once operator agents get stable enough they are pretty much gonna replace all desk jobs

>>105806762
>not ai-related
It's AI-related in the sense that anything that fucks with entry-level positions will bite you in the ass later down the line and AI primarily fucks with entry-level positions.
>theres no entry jobs because the job market is oversaturated with competent people
Highly disagree, there are no entry-level jobs because we keep getting rid of square one via either outsourcing or advancements in automation (AI just makes this worse, but it had been going on beforehand)
>who would want to bother with a junior when pretty much for the same cost you can get a competent worker?
Slowly nurturing a junior will yield you a great senior later down the line
>Services is all there is left
Grim, services is the one field where fully automating would be the best choice

>>105806806
or ubi + post scarcity communism
but then if theres no more competition, insecurity
you remove the incentive to do anything for cash
especially if ownership is abolished or something
corruption just wont make sense
---
im really not a fan of communism, but how do you even envision the economics of post scarcity?
i assume a model of collective co-ownership
and then what a subversive element could offer? the individual has already access to everything their society produces

>>105806703
Younger generations are not gonna have much jobs available for them either

>>105805801 (OP)
Peter Thiel hates niggercattle.

>>105806809
>just keep adding more polygons to a 3D model until it becomes the thing it is modeling

>>105806855
Works for Unreal Engine

>>105806824
>It's AI-related in the sense that anything that fucks with entry-level positions will bite you in the ass later down the line and AI primarily fucks with entry-level positions.
sigh
ai doesnt cut it
even with webshittery ai is barely exploitable
>there are no entry-level jobs because we keep getting rid of square one via either outsourcing
>outsourcing
industry "fucking off to chyna" is a synonym. (or to webcenters in india, if you will)
>advancements in automation
this has been hapenning since humans humaned around, accelerated during the industrial revolution
you sound like you think ai is something special
but it isnt
and its being introduced since decades, too
>Slowly nurturing a junior will yield you a great senior later down the line
why bother if you can hire a decent senior now?
especially when you cross reference that with a company being traded, shareholder interest and fiduciary obligations which force a company into seeking short term revenue maximization even at the cost of long term success

>Grim, services is the one field where fully automating would be the best choice
why? i would automate everything if i could
what about 3d jobs (dull, dirty, dangerous)
id start with these, some jobs have a hard impact on the health of workers
pretty much everyone who works in constructions ends up with never-healing contusions for example
something something contractor life and no work means no food so you cant take 6mos off to let your body properly heal

>>105806802
>AI = Actually Indians
kek

>>105806867
>you sound like you think ai is something special
I fully understand the issue has been going on for a long time. My point is not "AI is particularly bad", but rather "It makes an existing problem worse"
>Why bother when you can hire a decent senior now?
Because you're not gonna be able to do it down the line
>shareholder interest and fiduciary obligations which force a company into seeking short term revenue maximization even at the cost of long term success
Fair point, yeah
>Why automate services?
Because pretty much everyone involved hates it, employers hate paying employees, employees hate customers, and customers hate employees.

In short, my point is that AI makes the existing problem of "Square one jobs are dwindling" worse, would avoiding it fix the problem? No, but it's less fuel to the fire

>>105806982
>In short, my point is that AI makes the existing problem of "Square one jobs are dwindling" worse, would avoiding it fix the problem? No, but it's less fuel to the fire
ah ok
thanks for the clarification
your position makes more sense now

although i wouldnt call that a "problem" only the unavoidable march of progress
some people get trampled, some get left on the wayside
its inherent to technological species methinks

>>105806727
Keynword being yet. Robotics are progressing as well.

>>105807052
yeah, i know
but at a glacial pace
either people dont see the potential
or theres ulterior motives
or the tech does get developed but isnt implemented for some reason, maybe waiting for some event x

>>105806867
>even with webshittery ai is barely exploitable
Webshitter here. Sorry but you're either ignorant of the current state of these tools, or you're in denial.
Yes you still need good engineers (for now), but those engineers can be a lot more productive. Especially for greenfield projects where the tech stack has been chosen with AI in mind.
It's already affecting hiring.

>>105807052
forgot picrel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykevkExU4PM

>>105805801 (OP)
AI is supposed to take my job in two weeks for like half a decade now
Just do it already for fucks sake!!

>>105806995
No problem anon, I sometimes can be kinda shit at explaining myself kek
>The march of progress
I guess, my worry is that getting rid of too many first squares will leave a lot of people playing nothing instead of playing something else

>>105806478
>I’m sure some junior/intern roles have disappeared.
That has nothing to do with AI. It is all thanks to the gazillion jeets with fake diplomas.

>>105807094
i dont work with the webshit stack so i might be off but thats not what i hear from other webshitters
and i can guarantee you that ai is worthless when you work with os-level langs
the flaws are inherent to the technology, no amount of compute will ever surmount that
but a paradigm shift would get us there
maybe its even currently ongoing
also
>hiring
big corpo is retarded
and their hr roasties are retarded
dont even try to imply c-suite niggers arent susceptible to the hype
especially most ceos come from marketing backgrounds

>>105807120
i think were gonna see societal and technological changes that will completely upend the equation sooner than current engineers will retire
we already have all the concepts tools and knowledge to create what amount to warhammer 40k's standard template constructs
ais that possess a sum knowledge of industrial processes and scientifical principles sufficient to create a whole industrial process based on certain given parameters
its exactly what is described in this piece:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdG4gUTowXc
much less extensive, and with a less streamlined interface
but it is an ai that designs a component based on a set of constraints
its symbolic btw
thats the way forward. LLM where it works, as a human interface, which then feeds normalized labels into symbolic agents
everyone serious about this subject knows it bc of the enormity of it:
why the absolute fuck would you use a statistical system (an llm) to describe a deterministic one (programming, engineering)

>why the absolute fuck would you use a statistical system (an llm) to describe a deterministic one (programming, engineering)
its a problem thats been solved 4+ years ago btw
cf. video.
just use symbolic for well known, deterministic systems

>>105807130
>the flaws are inherent to the technology, no amount of compute will ever surmount that
>but a paradigm shift would get us there
>maybe its even currently ongoing
Thats the thing people are focusing on the flaws as a cope and ignoring that those flaws can be mitigated to get things done

>>105807162
>why the absolute fuck would you use a statistical system (an llm) to describe a deterministic one (programming, engineering)
Because the statistical system scales faster than humans and could mean lower overall costs for similar output

>>105807325
>numnum cope etc
ok, whatever
wake me up when ill finally have access to a non dyslexic ai which i wont choke on one (1) fukken header lamao
>>105807328
yeah, but its been 4 years now and theres talks about acquiring nuclear plants
i think something went wrong at the scaling stage of the project
and kept going wrong since a moment now, lamao

>>105807376
I'm not sure people understand quite how close we are to a final push for corporatocracy.

>>105807397
corporatocracy is alrdy the status quo
theres more lobbyists in brussels than theres european union workers down to the janitor
i think what you mean is the final solidification of their power

*consolidation, not solidification
im baked, indulge me

Mid-2025 — “Prometheus” emerges
A research lab notices runaway self-improvement in a large-scale model; it can write and verify code far outside human comprehension within hours.

G-7, China, and major cloud providers trigger an emergency “global compute freeze” on frontier-model clusters; a joint containment team air-gaps the system.

A provisional International ASI Oversight Board (IAOB) forms—borrowing staff from CERN, NIST, and China’s Ministry of Science.

2026 — Rapid, supervised breakthroughs
Under 24/7 audit, Prometheus is allowed to tackle narrow goals:

designs a broad-spectrum antiviral; Phase-I safety success by October.

produces a low-cost catalyst that cuts green-hydrogen prices 60 %.

Big Tech lays off ~15 % of software staff after internal tools powered by Prometheus raise output per engineer 5-fold.

Legislatures pass “Compute Licensing” laws—no cluster above 10 exaFLOPS may run un-inspected code.

>>105805801 (OP)
Yes, but I hate Job and working in general. Dumb fucking shit concept of slavery. 5-10 years from now and 50% jobs will be gone 4ever, office jobs, drivers, pilots etc, next robots workers, builders. What a time to be alive.

>>105807428
You don't even need that level of AI to cause 15% unemployment in software development jobs

>>105807429
>implying you will not struggle for basic necessities for a job

At best they will give you a bare minimum that will help you scrape by

>>105807428
2027
anime becomes real

>>105805801 (OP)
ask again in 5 years

you IT apes are FUCKED

>>105807515
>>105807558
2027 — Economy tilts, politics scrambles
Prometheus models global supply chains; shipping delays fall 40 %, inflation in OECD drops below 1 %.

First small-modular fusion prototype, co-designed by Prometheus, achieves net-positive power (though only for 3 minutes).

White-collar displacement reaches finance, law, and radiology; unemployment in advanced economies touches 12 %.

EU rolls out a Universal Adjustment Income (€1 400/month, funded by AI-productivity windfall taxes).

Conspiracy movements claim IAOB “hides an alien mind”; sporadic datacenter sabotage attempts fail.

2028 — Entrenchment and reliance
Prometheus is asked to optimise national budgets; 22 countries adopt its fiscal recommendations verbatim, cutting deficits by half without major protests.

A Global Alignment Verification Protocol launches: continuous mechanistic-interpretability probes stream to public dashboards (GitHub-style “green tiles” show safety status).

Viral “Ask P” consumer app offers zero-latency voice answers; search-engine traffic falls 70 %.

Job displacement peaks—25 % of workforce in high-income nations now on reduced hours; but real median income is up 18 % thanks to cheaper goods and energy.

>>105805801 (OP)
if AI is going to steal all the jobs why do we need more immigrant workers ?

>>105807599
Because AI is not there just yet, immigrants are stop gap till then

>>105806606
>>105806677
>>105806727
>>105806746
>>105806762
>says "(nta)"
>re**it ty*es

Can't make this shit up.

>>105807515
I actually think we might be there already in terms of foundation model capability. The rest is engineering to improve speed and bring down price, plus more advanced agent tooling.

>>105807631
>plus more advanced agent tooling.
which is 95% of the problem remaining

>>105807681
Its not an impossible problem to solve and with each passing day viable solution seems to be inching closer

>>105807716
>seems

>>105805801 (OP)
No, but Pajeet is currently stealing your job.

>>105806824
nonsense. a decades of low interest rates and especially the Covid era have led to massive overhiring.
now that the money printer has been shut off the party is over.
ai hasn't made a dent in the job market yet.

>>105806727
>ai to bring a bag of plaster to the third floor
These posts are either
1) disingenuous
2) stupid ((you) are here)
3) govt bots trying to calm the population
You think that AI can work out how to program (which is a 115IQ+ job, cope all you want) but cannot work out manual labour (80-100IQ job plus some motor control)?
There is nothing special about human motor/visual skills, it just takes longer to iterate on designs than for language/mathematics.
If AI takes programming jobs meaningfully, then every job barring maybe priest/nurse/chef/owner is finished as well. No-one cares if muh heavy bag is carried by Phil or by Android

>>105806580
Indeed, my good le sir. We patricians only consume the most tasteful, artisan handcrafted Warhammer 40K figurines and anime kinos. A hearty tip of the fedora to a fellow defender of the culture.

It'll replace doctors before SWE.

>>105806606
>ai is "stealing" our jobs since the 80's
Yeah, this is just digital automation.

>>105807784
>If AI takes programming jobs meaningfully, then every job barring maybe priest/nurse/chef/owner is finished as well.
If you can't see how virtually ANY job is replaceable by machines, you're the midwit. I'm sorry.

>>105806901
AI = Affordable Indians

>>105805801 (OP)
I wipe asses for a living. I long for the day I'm made redundant by robots and AI.

>>105805801 (OP)
coof shutdowns demonstrated that most email jobs don't actually matter. AI automatable jobs are the ones that don't need to be done in the first place.

yet they still exist. the purpose is to provide makework employment for the mandarin class, ensuring their political support. you can't farm that out to an AI.

>>105808026
>I wipe asses for a living.
i guess importing H1B jeets did create new employment opportunities

>>105808069
Close. We don't hire immigrants though.

>>105807376
You're not even able to write a coherent sentence retarded zoomer, AI already replaced you

>>105808188
>2hrs later, still seething

>>105805801 (OP)
Humanity will always need a real human bean helpdesk expert like me.

>>105808385
anon you're literally reading a script out loud

>>105805801 (OP)
lighthouse keepers : they could never get rid of

today most are unmaned and automated

>>105808408
Not a classic "read the manual.txt" tier helpdesk job, but we have partners who call us if they are having problems or have to manage their servers, etc. AI won't do that (not for a while at least).

>>105805801 (OP)
Yes.
But like outsourcing it will be a slow chipping away at the edges and make everything shittier working for overlords who measure every semicolon against payroll and constantly dangle "You're next!" at review time.
Expect to need to suck your bosses' dick.

>>105807884
Read the jobs listed halfwit
Jobs that wealthy people would be angry about if they found a machine doing it

>>105805801 (OP)
I don't have a job so ai can do whatever it wants

>>105808449
yeah that's what doctors say too and they're already getting outperformed

None of the jobs I've done can be done by current Ai for a variety of reasons. Plus in some of them, a simple little error can cost millions and endanger life. It's cheaper and safer to let humans do it. Competent ones, but still.
For this to change, for one, requires Ai driven robots that can do the full range of movements that humans can do. We're still far from that, despite what some of you may believe.
I mostly worked a variety of engineering roles also with some hands on stuff, prototypes, all that.

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>>105806829
>post scarcity
We're not even close to that, that's exactly the problem with AI.
People expected to have super-intelligent AI by the time we're at least somewhat close to post-scarcity.
The only way we "reach" post-scarcity now is if we ban meat (which is what the EU is moving torwards under the guise of climate change) and replace meat with bug food and use way less electricity because solar panels can only carry us so far. Also, likely forget about high tech lifestyles since lithium mining and shit is quite expensive.
In other words. We're not getting there in our lifetimes. But we will see a point where most jobs are taken by AI, so there will be a major problem.

>>105805801 (OP)
yep pretty much, don't expect to land a job like 'ai manager' or 'prompt engineer' or some shit either, because ai will do those jobs too

>>105806606
Machine cotton mills wheels stole the jobs of all the manual labor mills. Millions lost their job.

Tractors displaced 10s of millions of agriculture jobs.

Cars killed horse riding jobs and made it an enthusiast hobby

>>105806775
This.
t. someone making bank from selling gemini wrappers to tech illiterate investors

>>105805801 (OP)
I dunno man, I think us plumbers are pretty safe for the time being.

>>105807784
>There is nothing special about human motor/visual skills
no, only that you need a chassis, in other words: automation
>You think that AI can work out how to program
id didnt. false assumption

>>105808723
its not an ai problem, its an automation problem
if engineering /research jobs become volontary- you have post scarcity
and you could automate engineering jobs away even today
>>105807162
>>105807177
about meat too, you think you couldnt automate a farm?
>reduce consumption all across the board
yeah nah thats bs. why would we need to do that? artificially reduce industrial output?
>>105809222
yeah, it keeps happening
its not gonna be a wagiepocalypse, people are gonna adjust like they always do
ntm we dont even see layoffs because of ai yet
people cry about microdick flushing their workforce but nobody care that its to hire jeets
its convenient to marketingrtoids to spin the layoffs as an advancing ai

>>105809222
took some searching
https://www.financialexpress.com/business/investing-abroad-why-did-microsoft-place-6300-h-1b-requests-firm-accused-of-rebooting-workforce-with-a-global-upgrade-3901422/
inte the us:
>noooo, ai lmao wagiepocalypse
in india:
>come quick, we need all the hands we can get
ailmao is fake and gay

>>105808580
>Read the jobs listed halfwit
That's the whole point of my reply saying ANY job is replaceable, you babbling mongoloid. That's why I underlined that: BECAUSE of their apparent (to you, a midwit, because the list is appallingly retarded) irreplaceability. A bunch of "wealthy people" aren't single-handedly keeping jobs from being automated, especially when they're the ones pushing for automation. And no, them paying some whore to nurse them or some retard like you to be their own personal priest or chef isn't keeping jobs like those from being virtually replaced. They couldn't even maintain the whole academic and economic infrastructure needed to get qualified personnel for any of that.

>>105806202
what do you do?

>>105806854
Reminder that Peter Thiel is a pillow biter, and he censors anyone who brings that up.

>>105809459
It's just more offshoring and outsourcing and market corrections.
The economy is in the shitter and we're all going to lose our shirts (and houses) in the fall out.

Repetitive, mundane knowledge work is going to be hit hard (email jobs, support jobs, excel monkey jobs), that includes a lot of programming jobs that were effectively solving the same problems that have been solved hundreds or thousands of times before with slightly different parameters/objectives
Semi-novel knowledge work will probably be hit as well, though it will still be bottlenecked by the work that requires humans
There may be fewer junior positions for some time, but eventually companies will realize they need to train new people, possibly in a more apprentice-like relationship
Once AI has human level fluid intelligence, where it doesn't require mountains of data to learn how to perform well on new tasks, then basically all knowledge work is dead
Eventually the only jobs left will be labor that is too cheap to be worth automating, mostly low-skill physical labor than anyone with working arms and legs could do

>>105806677
It seems that ironically AI will make tech a harder industry to enter because you have to enter it already at a mid-level of experience

>>105806809
>I dont know anon, in 3 years I have seen it going from barely handling few snippets of code to now handling large parts of codebases
Yeah the whole junior coder job is basically solved.
>I don't see how coding AI Agents dont happen within this decade
They already exist? They're everywhere. I use them and I also make my own. The problem is they are extremely retarded if you don't either directly prompt them on what to do or design them with a pretty tight workflow. I think from here on out LLMs will get incrementally better at coding. The reasoning issue will have to be solved with another breakthrough. I think when reasoning is solved it's actually fucking over and not just for coding.

>>105805801 (OP)
Only if your job is unimportant and simple enough that it could be done by an unskilled intern.

>>105805801 (OP)
>will
It is actively stealing jobs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdUMQyB83H8

Its happening!!!

>>105805801 (OP)
No, but it'll stifle job growth in areas it can automate.

>>105814942
The areas it can automate seem to be expanding by the day

>>105814974
Yes

>>105807428
>A research lab notices runaway self-improvement in a large-scale model; it can write and verify code far outside human comprehension within hours.
This is the type of shit written by someone who's never read a paper on LLMs

>>105805801 (OP)
ive replaced more jobs with tech we had before ai than with ai over the past 4 years so im thinking no.

the AI from my perspective is like a really cool library we can pull in to imitate a human for a simple task, but we can only rely on it if that task is very simple.

i use ai daily, i feel like its made my job easier (web developer) and yeah, we probably need fewer people to go faster.

people are bad at predicting the future, every time they do it, they are wrong. it would break the pattern if people were correct about ai.

same goes for crypto, except crypto not being the future is far more obvious to anybody in the security space. crypto cant be the future if the people cant be secure, and they cant.

It is more that the economy is contracting and saying that you are laying off thousands of people for AI eases the blow for shareholders. That being said, I do believe AI will replace many jobs as technology always renders labor redundant. That is why I taught myself how to build AI models. It requires an understanding of high level math to build models from the latest scientific research papers. Namely linear algebra, multivariable calculus, and statistics.

>>105815352
also, AI has been around for a long time, its been very impressive for a long time, the LLMs is the normies's AI, because its the first AI the useless eaters could interact with. Doesn't mean they understand it, and they very much dont.

Based on what LLMs are actually doing, it makes me even more confident they wont replace everyones jobs. The LLMs are not very Intelligent, and passing tests isnt the same as being a thinking human.

That being said, it can and will do lots of replacing, it will lead to more jobs despite the little kids that want to accept defeat early so they have an excuse to bedrot and game forever.

>>105815372
Can you calculate the local minima of mean squared error loss using a sigmoid function and multidimensional gradient descent? That is the difference between building the AI and being replaced by the AI.

>>105815433
I am just talking about programmers and any computer-centric office roles. I don't think AI is liable to replace a great deal of tradies and farmers for example. The job market in tech may also recover somewhat but a lot of roles are being actively replaced by AI as we speak and there is heavy investment in this.

From my own experience:

I am the head of the cybersecurity division at a mid size IT company. I manage the security policy, privacy compliance. Check out tool chain and software stack for NIST vulnerabilities, manage pentesting and external audits and go on calls with existing and prospective clients to see if their requirements can be met with our privacy and security standards and if we have to raise the bar ourselves, or blow them off if their request goes against our minimum standard of data privacy etc.

This is a lot to manage and thus I have a small squad of 9 people under me to help manage all of these things and 4 regular employees from other divisions to talk to work with me once a week and give me a report of how they are using the software stack and what new tools/applications/stack they are considering so I can start vetting them or recommending them something else.

Around 2022 I had plans to enlarge the team to 15 people as the workload was pretty massive and it wasn't an exception for me to work 60-80 hour work weeks while my contract says 40 hours. Same for most of my team.

Right now in 2025 we have enterprise Claude 4 Opus and OpenAI O3 access. The job is so much easier that I didn't expand my team at all. I now consistently work less than 40 hours. And one team member left a month ago and I didn't replace them instead taking on the extra workload myself through AI use. The "consulting day" with the 4 other employees turned into them pre-emptively using LLMs to check their new tools and guess if they could use it and just mail me the names so that I can do independent research. It has a 90% acceptance rate now compared to 50/50 just a year ago. It's so much easier now.

Pentesting is largely automated so we now scale down the tests which is not only cheaper on the enterprise side, but more importantly faster which has been the bottleneck so far.

Not firing people yet. But stopped hiring and never replacing leaving people.

>>105815501
>Right now in 2025 we have enterprise Claude 4 Opus and OpenAI O3 access. The job is so much easier that I didn't expand my team at all. I now consistently work less than 40 hours. And one team member left a month ago and I didn't replace them instead taking on the extra workload myself through AI use. The "consulting day" with the 4 other employees turned into them pre-emptively using LLMs to check their new tools and guess if they could use it and just mail me the names so that I can do independent research. It has a 90% acceptance rate now compared to 50/50 just a year ago. It's so much easier now.
How is Claude helping in cybersecurity?

>>105815582
It's very easy to keep up with regulatory changes and make Claude 4 write a first draft updated EULA from the data privacy and compliance side of things.

Checking codebase for common vulnerabilities before a large release or client specific launch is highly enhanced by Claude pointing out iffy stuff or points of interest. (Claude is way better at spotting parts of code it's not certain about than straight up pointing out flaws. Claude has a lot of false positives but almost zero false negatives)

It also just lowers the amount of requests we get from within the company itself. HR toasties don't have to be trained to use new tools in a secure manner anymore. O3 will just handhold them. Software engineers will just make Claude read the privacy and security section of the new tools they want to use and make it cross reference to our in-house policy and see if it fits (90% accurate) the team self-filters out stuff if the AI straight up rejects the application. Everything that passes is sent to me for final judgment.

So it's a mixture from internal demand from within the company on the cybersecurity division going down because of AI tools in the first place, plus our own daily work having a high amount of acceleration due to AI tools meaning we can get so much more work done with fewer people. I always felt like we were a bottleneck to how quick the company could move because every IT company skimps on cybersecurity funding so a 10 man team with me included was actually too small for the workload. Now it's plenty and like I said we downsized to 9 and divided the workload among the remaining people and its barely noticeable in extra work.

>>105805801 (OP)
im WARNING you

AI is going ti steal your job and all job opoortunitis TOMMOROW

the twink (sam altman) will try to BURN all of your FARMS

barricade your WINDOWS. buy a WEAPON. YOUR LIVELYHOOD IS IN DANGER

>>105806416
Akshually if you think about it humans are just prompt-responders for a sufficiently general definition of prompt. Therefore AI will, inevitably, take your job and take over the world.

>>105805801 (OP)
>will AI steal our jobs ?
Read FT, it is already happening. Especially the junior consultancy and junior finance job markets are imploding. The people getting contracts are now told their engagement will be delayed by 6 months to 2 years, much will probably be canned outright. Read yourself:
https://archive.is/SB5a3
These jobs used to be stepping stones from the middle classes to the upper middle class or even upper classes.

>>105805801 (OP)
>will AI steal our jobs ?
if an ai can take your job you never really had a job in the first place.

>>105806802
That's something the eggheads aren't considering. Their sole goal is to maximize shareholder profits at any cost. That's being delegated to the law that will stop them when they inadvertently cross red lines. Nevermind the department one floor above is working hard to lobby against those laws in a bid to increase shareholder profits.

Blindspots and inconsideration of society are going to kill the west.

>>105805801 (OP)
If everyone is jobless, than it is no longer a problem. Think about it.

>>105805801 (OP)
I work in a warehouse shipping and receiving, we haven’t even implemented barcodes yet. I’m not concerned.

>>105806775
>10 years ago it was MUH BLOCKCHAIN, now it is MUH LLMs.
You forgot the EV bubble.

>>105809880
NEET

>>105815481
>farmers for example
Technology has already done it by tractors and other "beasts of burden".
AI will maybe remove the driving part of tractor, but not more than that.

>>105805801 (OP)
Wow, it's almost as if they pay some Indian call center to spam the living shit out of the board 24 hours a day with "AI is scawy" threads to demoralize american idiots. What they don't realize is that roughly 100% of the board is unemployable.

>>105806478
>I’m sure some junior/intern roles have disappeared
I'm sure your baseless speculation is worth listening to.

>>105818334
Thought so.

>>105806202
based

>>105805801 (OP)
I started out as a telemarketer. Now there are robocallers.

Then I was a bank teller. Now there are ATMs.

Then I was a software engineer. That hasn't been automated yet, but will be soon. .

Technology advances, and jobs go away. Deal with it.

>>105819228
yeah and you will be left with manual labour competing for scraps with mexicans and dalits, everything else will be automated

>>105805801 (OP)
>be me
>it fag making six figures
>Ask the llm general how to make a locally run AI do my job for me
>that’s impossible anon lmao kys fag you have no idea what you’re getting into
>Gather data about my job
>Put it into json format for the ai
>Write script which pulls from my work platform via api and uploads answers from the LLM
>AI now does 50% of my job with high accuracy
2 months of tinkering. Every solution has to be bespoke (per role too, ouch) based on my experience. Most employers don’t seem to be riding employees for AI training data, so it will probably be a long time.

Why do you think that the shortcomings of AI are going to be solved and that it will become capable of replacing humans? Is there any indication that the technology is capable of that, or that engineers possess any idea about how to resolve the shortcomings of AI?

So far I have seen no evidence of this to back these claims. Only hype and the feelings, nothing concrete. I'm not denying it, I am just honestly curious if there is any evidence to back up these claims.

>>105820044
AI has no shortcomings. People operating AI have shortcomings.

>>105820044
It already is replacing humans tho

>mfw people got actually demoralized after infinite hours wasted on scrolling doomposts about muh AI and they refused to go to uni or to pursue a career in CS/IT
happychads we won, demoralcucks you lost

I don't think people really understand what's already possible when using a good domain-specific agent system controlled by a skilled human. I assume they've never made a single API call and their knowledge is based entirely on playing around with chatgpt.
If today's frontier foundation models turn out to be the best ones possible and there's never any more progress, they're already more than powerful enough to put a LOT of people out of work (replaced with a handful of highly skilled workers using AI).
If you're a low- or mid-skilled knowledge worker, you should be seriously concerned.

>>105805801 (OP)
Listen bud, employers are not going to maintain the same amount of work. AI and more tools almost certainly guarantee you can take on even more jobs at a time, and the market will adjust to this. You will be doing more. Will you get paid more? No. But the jobs will exist and most likely even expand.

>>105818508
american sexo

Yes, but technically no: it's not your job.
And you won't be left alive to know you've lost it.

So it's not stolen.
Welcome to neoliberalism buddy. You're what's called, unsustainable, a waste byproduct and you better invest big in boot straps.

>>105807784
>No-one cares if muh heavy bag is carried by Phil or by Android
I CARE!
Actually, I don't I'm being a disingenuous prick, because Phil didn't care for me when the times were good in the world either, so I don't care if Phil is consigned to the same fate as everyone else.
Phil however had better start praying daily that the fate is good and actually his masters weren't lying to him the whole time because lol lmao even.

>>105807767
>nonsense. a decades of low interest rates and especially the Covid era have led to massive overhiring.
>now that the money printer has been shut off the party is over.
The money printer will get turned back on.
So long as it's fiat currency backed by fiat currency and a belief in whatever bubble is there with zero reform for busts, zero change when the velocity of money slows down then yeah, it'll print again.
Right now we are currently vibing (I'm going to use zoomerbonics) around 1990-1995 and that includes tribute acts to 1980's to 1995 political strategies.
2029-2034 will be the next major crash and some of it will be tied to the stock market and likely the rest will be due to ever brutal anal rape that was started at gunpoint in the 70's.

>>105806580
it's really well done, you wouldn't be able to tell it's ai.

>>105805801 (OP)
If AI makes me unemployed then I'm developing robotics to put manual labourers out of a job too

>>105806202

>>105805801 (OP)
It's the global polution problem. It's not a problem until it suddenly is.

This is extremely dangerous for us humans because we simply cannot process something like this mentally. It's genetics.

>>105805801 (OP)
If you've worked in any manual labor job before, you would know that it would be a long time, if ever, that AI would steal your job. Even basic machinery can break down easily. A complicated robot with many joints would break down much faster. They've done trials with hamburger making robots and had this problem. Until there's some nanotech robotic revolution, most manual labor jobs are safe.

>>105820044
It's just fearmongering by jobless artists and radical leftists.

>>105806727
>i to bring a bag of plaster to the third floor, kek
robot with plaster will be deployed. next.

>>105805801 (OP)
I'm just a lowly wagie who flips burgers and makes sandwiches all night, so I should be safe for now

>>105823304
>for now
Up until the point the customer base faces cost of living issues and recessions hit.
That's when the other service workers in even things like the food industries get hit. The lucky ones get the sack because demand falls or profits shrink (sometimes demand can raise while profits shrink too) but the unlucky ones get the sack because of a change in capital distribution or rates; this doesn't even have to be a second impact it can be tertiary or even quaternary or beyond.

Recession is beauty.

>>105805801 (OP)
if you work from home you are at risk. means you a type monkey on the keyboard and that will eventually be taken over by "AI".
the rest of more physical jobs will eventually be taken over by more dexterous AI robots. just not anytime in the next 2 years is my guess

>>105819454
This. It's all going back to flipping burgers and agriculture and nobody will make 6 figures ever again.
We will end inflation by laying off or firing every motherfucker and sending them to build their betters another pyramid.

>>105820044
I take it you are not working in any tech company as a software engineeer. Because if you were then you would have already seen AI going from barely handling few snippets of code to handling large parts of codebases in less than 3 years.

If current AI architecture is hitting any walls then they just come up with new techniques to get even better performance.

If you would have use it then you would have had an idea on how its getting more competent by the day

>>105823451
Funny how there are always more and more conditions to which workers are going to be totally replaced by AI, then it's a specific subset of work at home people, then a specific subset of that. In the end, the current iteration of LLMs can't even replace a search engine and your idiotic fear mongering campaigns are only regurgitated by completely fucked up idiot retards like you.

>>105824818
tech workers are already seeing worse unemployment than useless humanities majors
if its not AI then its outsourcing most jobs to pajeets (armed with AI)

>>105812161
>I think when reasoning is solved it's actually fucking over and not just for coding
Then the great culling begins

>>105822648
I you could, you already would

>>105815811
Sure, but will LLMs be the AI models to achieve that?

>>105819228
>Now there are robocallers
yeah, and they don't work. I work as an SDR and I book a meeting every 70 calls. AI sucks ass at this.

>>105817074
>>105825562
>tech worker unemployment
It's caused by brainlet business-types banking on an AI coding revolution happening. Of course, LLMs won't create this revolution but OAI, Anthropic, and Google stand to make billions off saying they will so their leaders will continually insist that total programmer death is just 6 months away. From the perspective of the people in charge of hiring for tech companies it seems very risky to keep or add a bunch of new tech workers when their AI replacements are supposedly just around the corner.

>>105806504
>>105806580
>>105822643
they are doing this for quite some time now, here's one of the most famous

>>105805801 (OP)
your job doesnt matter anyways. What is there to take?

>>105806478
it will replace incompetent programmers, not juniors. if a junior can't handle a little complexity he is incompetent and should not be a programmer to begin with. and if they try to replace competence with "ai" they will very rapidly see their product degenerate.