>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, X5/M, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y70/60, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (gaming included): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700/X, 7700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (13/14th gen -K CPU BIOS update required)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported, BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580, SN770
High end: 990 Pro
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU: compare price to performance & features, Optiscaler mod expands FSR4 support
Budget: Arc B580, used card
Mid range: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-performance 1440p & Mid-range 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX550/650
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: Acer M3BMIIPRX, AOC Q27G3XMN, Q27G40XMN (beware: QC lottery)
4K: Gigabyte M28U/M27UA, ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>> >>105762187 (Cross-thread)

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid-range: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 G2, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>105807338

reminder that these threads are botted and if you ever try to OP your own, you will get spammed to death

replying to comments from previous thread

>The build
Case: MSI MAG FORGE AIRFLOW 321R ATX - Black [MSI-321R-ATX-BLK]

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 8 Cores | 4.7 GHz (Max 5.2 GHz) [AMD-R7-9800X3D-T]

MOTHERBOARD: MSI PRO X870-P WIFI7 ATX - DDR5 [MSI-PRO-X870-P-WIFI]

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32GB (2x16 GB) 6000MHz CL30 DDR5 - Black [GSKILL-TRIDENT-Z5-RGB-2X16GB-6000M-CL30]

PRIMARY SSD: 1TB Samsung 990 PRO Gen4 M.2 (R: 7450MB/s | W: 6900MB/s) [SAM-SSD-1TB-M2] x1

GPU: Palit NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 GamingPro V1 OC - 16GB

POWER SUPPLY: MSI MAG A1000GL 80+ Gold - Modular [MSI-MAG-A1000GL]

Support - CPU COOLING SYSTEM: NZXT Kraken Elite (2024) 360mm Liquid Cooler ARGB - Black [NZXT-KRAKEN-ELITE-360-RGB-BLK]

$3k USD


>>105813883
That’s delivered. Tax included


>>105813938
>What Mobo, get more than 32G ram, more storage, get better PSU brand.

In Australia a lot of the budget pre builds do deals for specific parts so there is limited choice with some parts. I’ll look into getting a better case though thanks.
I have already purchased regular 4TB storage and have another SSD so I can split OS.
But I hear what you’re saying about it not improving boot times etc. I think it’s just for making sure the dedicated SSD for OS doesn’t get cluttered up with other shit.
What power supply brand would you recommend?
This is the supplier and the build with options to change. https://www.nebulapc.com.au/products/vanguard. (prices AUD)

>>105814032
>Wait for 5080 Super or Get 5070ti
So I get this, I am debating it. Issue is that let’s say it’s releases February 26. It will be scalped and be crazy over priced. And will have to wait another 6 months from release before prices and availability calm down. Correct me if I’m wrong - just looking at the last release, and they were only 16GB. Maybe to 5070ti would be better, but I’m struggling to find a decent deal on a 5070ti compared to this. Open to suggestions though.

How would I know if my GDDR6x is dying? I think I fucked up when I opened up my GPU to clean it some months back because one of the thermal pads started disintegrating but I kinda just left it there and put the GPU back together, and when I turned on my PC after that, for a day or so, there were these weird visual artifacts on the screen. But then they just went away and I haven't seen them since. I wasn't sure if the vram was throttling itself or doing something else but when I checked hwinfo nothing looked out of the ordinary. Temps were reasonable and from my memory the clocks were fine. However I read today that GDDR6x can cook itself to death over time. What are the telltale signs?

Is it just possible that Nvidia believed its own hype and outsourced GPU driver development to AI? Because I can't understand this enshitification otherwise. Even with older GPUs: for example, I keep some of my Pascal rigs on 560, because 570 sometimes wouldn't even install properly. Recently I've read that 580 series will remove support for Maxwell/Volta/Pascal, and while it's usually bad news, I'm actually feeling kind of relieved right now.

>>105815561
gddr6x runs really hot which is where those rumors about cooked vram come from but to date, there hasn't been mass death of gddr6x modules or anything like that so it's FUD
as for artifacting, it could be your vram having memory errors from becoming too hot and unstable, or even possibly your gpu actually being fine but it ran a corrupted shader that's caused by an unstable cpu/ram OC (xmp included)

>>105815278 (OP)
>starting new build
>seat CPU, install RAM, mount motherboard in case
>want to reuse AIO cooler from last build
>put in spacers, start putting on pump head (CPU touching portion)
>feel wetness
>small leak from connector
>can see some small droplets outside of the CPU
>mop them up with q-tip
>leave motherboard out to dry while I run to store to buy new cooler
>3 hours later, return and finish build
>wtf no response when pressing power button
>connections correct
>start disconnecting components one by one to isolate problem
>remove ssd, system briefly powers on and fans twitch, power LED stays on
>down to CPU and cooler
>unseat CPU
>can see more small droplets in socket
>no discoloration
>now leaving components out to dry under a heat lamp
So how fucked am I? I didn't observe any smoke or loud noises during the whole process. Water didn't get on anything else either.

>>105815091
I went from 6700 XT to 9070. Pretty happy with it after undervolt+memory OC.

Just gonna say it here that my current build is fine and I dont need anything more:
5800X3D and 6800XT

Im tempted by newer shit but I literally dont need it and it would be financially irresponsible. Btw. the fiat money system is a scam

Should I enable PBO?

And what about other basic BIOS settings when configuring new PC? I know about EXPO for RAM and some other bullshit setting to shorten the RAM training time on AM5. Anything elese?

>>105813539
thank you some actual information. Yes it's a stupid vanity build but I haven't had an actual new new computer since 2007.

>gen 5 ssd for OS no benefit
>dropped ram to 6000. Looks like 6400 requires/caring about editing timings?
>changed mobo. Asus can have additional m.2 without sacrificing pcie lanes
>dont need 1000w PSU. Won't even see it

>>105815278 (OP)
quietest PC case that Just Werks™?

>>105815856
Increasing the power limits is only useful if you have extremely good cooling.
Undervolting with core optimizer/shaper is only worth it if you have the time to put in stability testing.
Clock offset is fairly simple, just make sure you don't get clock stretching.

>>105815832
Best to spend everything you have on canned food or seeds/fertilizer, guns and gold while its still worth something

>>105815278 (OP)
>mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
>ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, X5/M, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
>Dual Chamber: Y70/60, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
which of these is the quietest for mATX, ATX, and Dual, respectively? if there is a substantial difference

>>105815628
IHVs moved to WDDM 3.2 on Windows. Nvidia has the worst implementation of it. AMD worked in partnership with Microsoft on it (hello Xbox). Intel is also a given since they have been Wintel for ages.

The more you know.

Man I fucked up. I bought an asrock x870e taichi and a 9800 x3d. Now I see that the board kills the cpu even after bios update. Anybody has a X870e mobo recommendation?

>>105816017
Just don't set the vsoc or anything power related to "Mobo default"

You can read the specs you bought right? Set it manually.

>>105815934
Thank you for your advice but in my cunt you cant buy guns

>>105815976
>Quietist
the fans make noise, not the case.

>>105816036
Here in Florida not only we can own guns but if someone invades my property I am legally able to shoot them and not go to prison.

>>105816017
x870e tomahawk is really nice if you don't use all of the usb4 ports

>>105815922
Sooo no..?

Is ASrock killing all AM5 CPUs or just X3D ones?

>>105816071
probably not.
i found out that pbo is sorta broken on my assrock board breaking pbo offset overclocking not being able to sustain anything higher than +25mhz overclocking
other than negative CO offset, PBO as a whole seems like a waste of time

>>105816079
X3D CPUs are more sensitive to voltage than non X3D.

See
>>105816029

>>105816079
its killing lousy bin cpus that need more vcore than average/good bin cpus
a couple of 9950x's have died on assrocks too and those ryzen 9 cpus have the highest boost clocks that requires high voltages to hit

>>105816045
i'm considering being lazy and just using the included fans though, for the cases that have them. is there a lot to gain by selecting fans separately?

>>105816101
>i'm lazy
>i also care about the noise
then you buy the Antec Flux Pro

>>105816101
Case fan quality varies wildly. With aftermarket it's more consistent. I know Lian Li cases have decent fans, dunno about others.

I have an RX 6700 XT, what reasonably cheap CPU/motherboard/RAM combination would you pair up with it for gaming?

>>105816192
Ryzen 5 7500F
B650
2x16GB 6000CL36

>>105815762
>socket looks dry
>put CPU in again and reattach new AIO
>system goes further into boot cycle (fans spin more, AIO screen actually shows a temp) before hanging again
>unseat CPU
>water droplets in socket AGAIN

>>105815278 (OP)
When is it coming out?
Cant build a pc without a case.

>>105815278 (OP)
Day 730 of waiting for UDNA

Is $65 too much for a Phantom Spirit 120 these days? My 6 year old Hyper 212 is decidedly not cutting it during the summer with how degraded my CPU is.

I figured I might have been able to hold out until an AM5 upgrade, but that isn't happening any longer.

>>105816391
try contacting amd anyway? you could get lucky and get a 5700x replacement if they're feeling generous

So i'm looking for a motherboard, my 3 choices so far are :
- MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI
- MSI MAG X870E TOMAHAWK WIFI
- GIGABYTE X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE

i am looking thru the AM5 Motherboards Sheet but i'm kinda confused with the MSI mainboards
since both have the tag that they share the ports with the usb4 backports. what is the difference/benefit of the x870E compared to the x870 ? the price difference would be 40€

>>105816412
Don't know why the hell they'd do that even if the degradation is the fault of default motherboard settings in the first place as much as a bad bin having bad clocks at bad power out of the box (Eastern Europe getting worse quality products as usual I guess) but good god even with an open case getting 145W on all cores at 4 GHz with these temps is just unacceptable.

Wondering if that might have factored into worse idle wattages too for the I/O die and whatnot.

>>105816493
>what is the difference/benefit of the x870E compared to the x870 ?
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/chipsets/am5.html
Usable PCIe lanes are slightly higher. I'd go for the MSI X870E out of those but take it with a grain of salt cause my past builds all have been ASUS mobos so I cant tell how good either MSI or Gigabyte are right now is.

>>105816519
so the only difference is that you get one more 4x4 pci slot instead of the 4x2 on the x870 ?

name a worse time to be a pc builder than right now
fucking everything has gone up like a rocket in price
even AM4 builders are completely fucked by this point

>>105816012
This guy always thinks he knows what he's talking about, but he just references random buzzwords.
WDDM is based on DirectX (co-developed with NVIDIA), and 3.2 contains optimizations for virtual GPUs which NVIDIA dominates.

NVIDIA was also the first to release DX12 Ultimate-compatible consumer GPUs.
The more you know.

>>105816217
>Ryzen 5 7500F
Can't find these in any of my usual retailers, just aliexpress.
Why not an AM4 build? The parts are way cheaper, or I could even find something secondhand.

>>105816583
>Why not an AM4 build?
okay, 5700x b550 32gb 3200c16

>>105816560
You waited too long if you needed to upgrade parts for AM4.
Video card prices are not good, but you can usually find discounts for the rest of the components if you're not chasing the newest -X3D CPUs.

>>105816550
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/cpu-coolers/x870-vs-x870e-which-chip-you-choose/
from my understanding the only real difference is that the E allows more connectivity e.g. USB or SATA ports and whatever the manufacturer wants with the extra lanes. Best call is probably to read into the manual of each and see e.g. how the M.2 slots are handled regarding lane sharing and so on. the X870 and E usually have the issue that the USB4 lanes are dedicated so some secondary m.2 slots may snatch bandwidth from the GPU reducing it from 16 to 8.

>>105815278 (OP)
Posted this in the previous thread. Work at a thrift store.

Someone dumped a bunch of PC stuff

Scored an amd ryzen 5 2600 + MSI b450m pro max mobo (no ram) and GTX 1660 super

Is that CPU and mobo worth using over my current i7 8700 based build that I scavenged a few months ago (still on a GTX 970)

Or should I just put the 1660super in my current i7 8700 build?

Is it worth putting some money in the amd build? If so, what should I get for it

>>105816493
X870E has a second south bridge daisy chained to provide more IO than x870

>>105816609
>1 year apart
Just use your existing Intel system. Find a way to upgrade that later, the 1660 Super will be supported for a while yet. You have no access to RT content but we can assume you are satisfied without.

>>105816638
X670E is identical to X870E but you will notice there is no successor to x670 on x800 series as non x870e boards only have a single chipset whereas the x670 non e board had dual chipsets and way more lanes also all the x870e boards are extremely expensive for no fucking reason compared to last gen x600 series

>>105816665
Think it's worth putting some money into the amd CPU and mobo for a second PC or to give to a nephew/niece? (Will have a GTX 970 if I use the 1660s for myself lol)

What else would I need? A case, PSU, ram, storage

>>105816391
>>105816509
>buy amd for 65w tdp power effiency AAAAAACK
do amdrones really?

>>105816687
So many things that it would leave the question open why you're even concerned about spending money to begin with.

>>105816391
do you have a single fan on it?

>>105816192
5600 / 12400F depending on whichever is cheaper factoring in the motherboard, with a basic 120mm tower cooler and a B550M / B660M board, and 32gb 3200c16
stock cooler and 16gb ram will do if you're really trying to keep it cheap
if you can go for an am5 base that'll be nicer, 7400F / 7500F are especially nice if you can get them for cheap, otherwise 7600(X) and 9600X have dropped significantly in price
avoid the 8400F due to pcie lanes fuckery even if performance is fine

>>105816666
Yeah I was pretty bummed by this since Asus downgraded most of their strix line boards from x670e to x870 and the -A I wanted literally has worse IO (lane shared M2) than the x670e-A board

>>105816596
>You waited too long if you needed to upgrade parts for AM4
I was crippled by hesitation thinking maybe I wouldn't need to spend any money but it seems so

>>105816715
I have two fans on it, not like that makes a difference anyway.

>>105816773
>Yeah I was pretty bummed by this since Asus downgraded most of their strix line boards from x670e to x870
Yeah this is why i had no interest in x800 series (still using asus tuf x670e plus wifi) once i saw the pcie bifurcation bullshit on the x800 series boards and that there was no successor to x670 with the dual chipset and they jacked up all the prices i lost all interest

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pQPPWc

I'm looking for any recommendations to make this as optimal while looking for potential discounts coming up next week. I have a power supply and monitor

>>105816827
CL30 Ram

>>105816827
you don't need an AIO, get a Phantom Spirit 120 SE like everyone else.
use this RAM instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5
I would strongly consider swapping the Crucial P3 for something like a WD SN7100

I would also get a mATX board/case.

>>105816596
There is still the 5900XT but that shit is $355 for being slower than 5950Xlmao

>>105816866
>>105816942
Thanks for the input. Is there any part that's expected to go on sale next week or should I pull the trigger on the lower cost stuff while they're in stock?

Why did HUB Steve use the press driver for intentionally misguiding the public and clickbaiting? Guess we will never know
He did not lie, but he intentionally misguided (press driver vs release driver)
quick summary from yesterday
anyway about it, seeya

>>105816979
>HUB Steve is the source
But that's not true. JayzMD deliberately told people to enable Rebar globally to sabotage their performance in most games while double blaming Nvidia; 1 for a problem that doesn't exist, and 2 for problem that will inevitably occur when someone does this and doesn't know enough to realize what he just did.

>>105816963
I would check for bundle deals before going with lowest price (although the bundles often kind of suck, or at least have never been good for me)

Is a 1 minute cold boot with fast boot and MCR turned off on AM5 normal ish?

Any meaningful differences between these two RAMs for my gaming laptop? It's a Legion 5 Ryzen 7 5800H RTX 3070
I don't know much about this stuff, I know the Integral is CL20 and the Kingston is CL22 but again, don't know what that actually means

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Integral-2x16GB-3200MT-Notebook-MacBook/dp/B0BB7ZD652
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/4019918?clickSR=slp:term:sodimm%20ddr4:1:126:1

Any help very welcome. Thank you!

>>105816509
ryzen 3000 was infamous for having degradation so amd might just do a no questions asked rma

>>105817035
yeah

>>105816979
>HUB Steve use the press driver
He used the 9070/XT's launch drivers. BlameChaser's just being a moron as usual.

>>105816979
>>105817202
Kek btfo

>>105817202
OHNONONO

>>105816979
>>105817202
LMAO

Fuck off Bugchasers

How comes you can't use Vulkan in chrome on Windows but you can on Linux?

r8 my 1080p setup (germany).

>>105817495
seems good, yep, ok and graphics card: nigger what the fuck

I'm thinking of trading in my 7900xtx for a 9070xt. Newegg would give me free GPU + $50 gift card in exchange. Its basically the same fps but I get more features

>>105817495
At that price, get a 9070 / 9070xt

>>105817554
traitor

>>105817554
worse fps but you get fsr 4 and better encoding quality and better RT

>>105817554
9070XT has worse 0 and 1% lows compared to the 7900XTX also if you don't care about FSR 4 or memetracing and pure raster and lots of vram then choose wisely honestly i would keep the XTX

>>105817495
How many times do we have to tell you stupid people to not buy anything RDNA3 and older, especially at $695.

>>105817587
They already got FSR4 working on the 7900XTX on linux and they are getting ready to implement into windows since AMD wont do it

>>105817542
>>105817573
the gpu only costs 459€ in german stores. a 9070 or 9070xt would be between 600 and 800 depending on the manufacturer. should i still switch to another card or keep the 7800xt?

>>105817495
Why the fuck are you buying last gen RX 7000 series do you have rocks in your head

>>105817495
>asrock mobo
it's gonna fry your cpu or so i've heard

>>105817643
whats a better gpu for a 400€ - 500€ price point? also im using a 7800xt right now (the build is for my brother) so i thought its still a good choice.
>>105817659
i dont know much about mother boards honestly. i want built in wifi and obviously support for my cpu and ram etc. any better suggestions?

>>105817620
>>105817587
Can you show me examples of the 9070xt getting worse than the 7900xtx at 1440p?

>>105817630
RDNA4 cards with native FSR4 support will always be more performant than the RDNA3 cope upscaler.

>>105817675
I believe Asrock boards only fry X3D cpus. How much is a 5070?

>>105816117
>>105816120
i'm going aftermarket then

how big should the fans be in a typical quiet rig? the Frame 4000D apparently supports up to 200 mm at the front and 140 mm at the rear. is this good or should i look for even larger?

>>105817705
a 5070 would be between 550€ and 700€. A 5070Ti is more expensive with 800€ - 1000€.
from the tests ive seen a 5070 would be performing worse than a 7800xt though right? it would be more on the 9060xt side performance wise?

>>105817678
If you care about upscaling and RT, there's no contest.
No amount of 7900XTX owner coping will change the fact that FSR4 will always run better on AMD's newer cards.

The VRAM fud is pointless btw, the entire industry is moving on to neural textures that require less VRAM.
>Neural Block Texture Compression is a new graphics technique that dramatically reduces memory usage, while maintaining exceptional visual fidelity.
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/announcing-directx-raytracing-1-2-pix-neural-rendering-and-more-at-gdc-2025/
https://x.com/GPUOpen/status/1810439717714034957

>>105817688
>cope upscaler
I don't use upscaling you retarded faggot it just proves that amd lied about FSR4 not working on RX 7000 series go pound sand

>>105817777
>No amount of 7900XTX owner coping will change the fact that FSR4 will always run better on AMD's newer cards
No fucking shit you retarded faggot RX 7000 series is last gen of course RX 9000 series is faster are you actually retarded

>>105817777
Wow another retarded faggot proving that rx 9000 series is faster then last gen RX 7000 series no fucking shit dude do you want a medal

>>105817807
>>105817777
so wheres the proof??

>>105817795
RDNA3 cards owners lacking reading comprehension. Shock.
>FSR4 is ML super resolution, and it is built for… as we bring it to market, it will be built for our RDNA 4 architecture.
>RDNA 4 will bring a pretty massive increase in terms of ML [operations] and compute capability in the shader unit itself.
>So it is kind of fine-tuned for RDNA 4.
The truth is FSR4 was optimized for RDNA4’s GPU architecture.
That’s why modders can’t completely eliminate the performance penalty when they try to run FSR4 on the 7900 XTX.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2569453/qa-amd-execs-explain-ces-gpu-snub-future-strategy-and-more.html

>>105817659
just did some digging and found that the do apparently fry 9000 series cpus.
seems like there is a bios fix, although ive never downloaded a bios update before but id figure it out.
what would theoretically be good alternatives? i dont know shit about motherboards.

>>105817631
IMO an RX 9070 (non XT) is a far better choice for the future because of FSR4 and better RT

>>105817678
TPU finds the 9070xt to be slower on average at 1440p compared to the RX 7900xtx

>>105817844
>RDNA3 cards owners lacking reading comprehension. Shock
All i said was they got it working for RX 7000 series on linux and implementation is coming for windows and AMD said it wasn't possible and now you are sitting here coping and seething about 7900XTX owners lmfao

>>105817874
but that was before the recent drivers?

>>105817878
AMD officials never said FSR4 was impossible to implement on RDNA3 you coping retard.
They said FSR4 was designed to make the most out of the hardware in RDNA4, which modders proved right.

>>105817884
yes

>>105817859
these should be good
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vjpD4D/msi-mag-b850-tomahawk-max-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-mag-b850-tomahawk-max-wifi
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sRG2FT/asus-tuf-gaming-b850-plus-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b850-plus-wifi

i had x570 tuf gaming plus on my previous build, the only downside for me was the dogshit asus software aka armory crate

>>105817890
technically FSR 4 could run on RDNA 2 via software emulation on FP8 but it would suck

>>105817776
A 5070 has better performance than a 9060xt. It really boils down to budget, generation and feature set and what your priorities. I just built my desktop and and I ended up with a 9070 because I wanted the latest gen, 16 GB vram and lower wattage.

How many milliseconds faster does my games load if I enable EXPO on my motherboard and make RAM 50% faster?
I don't think RAM speed matters these days, anyone actually ever notice anything?

>>105817935
that's not what ram speed does, loading speed is mostly tied to your storage speed
basically ram speed gives boost to your cpu, so it will give extra fps in games where cpu is the bottleneck

>>105817863
>>105817904
alright ill switch to the 9070. whats even the difference between a 9070 and a 9070xt? the 9070xt seems to perform slightly better in tests but is the same price point, both cost around 700€.

>>105817859
>although ive never downloaded a bios update before but id figure it out.
what the heeeell, update your shit

>>105817935
>>105808316

>>105818018
If the price is similar, get the -XT.
Sapphire Pulse is one of the better cards if it's priced close to MSRP.

>>105817795
>'I don't use the features I paid for because FSR3 looks like dogpiss'
Kek'd.

updated my graphics drivers and now every game is stuttering like crazy on fullscreen, runs just fine in windowed mode
thanks amd...

>>105818038
uhhhhhhhh user error im sure

>>105818018
>both cost around 700€.
in that case get the XT

>>105818018
If the price difference is small enough, get the 9070xt. Efficiency-wise the xt version is faster by 15% but uses 35% more power to achieve it.

>>105818004
If that's true higher RAM frequency must be really useless because CPU bottlenecks are very rare for me since I always buy very expensive ones.

>>105818021
What am i even supposed to be looking at?
I see the measurement nanosecond, am I to understand RAM speed is even less noticeable than I thought?

The reason I don't want to enable EXPO is just because I've heard that it has bricked some systems, if it's not even noticeable I don't want to risk it.

>>105818018
the xt-version is more powerful, but it also draws more power. regular 9070 would be also a perfectly valid choice if prices were not fucked-up this much - price difference between them right now makes regular 9070 completely irrelevant and rises the question on why it even exists. the xt-version you can also undervolt/underclock slightly to achieve same power draw as regular 9070.

>>105818118
>I've heard that it has bricked some systems
This shouldn't happen if you've updated the motherboard BIOS to the one with the latest AGESA or Intel firmware version.
ASRock is saying their PBO current settings were degrading Ryzen CPUs, not related to memory/soc voltages.

>>105818075
>>105818090
>>105818123
how about this one? reason being mainly the size and budget, although it seems slightly overpriced.

>>105818118
>If that's true higher RAM frequency must be really useless because CPU bottlenecks are very rare for me since I always buy very expensive ones.
Your DRAM should be tightly tuned to keep your very expensive CPU busy.
Tuned memory completes read/write operations in fewer clock cycles.

>>105818171
That one's fine but it might run loud due to the slim form factor.
You can set the card to run more power-efficiently if you learn how to undervolt the card

>>105818359
the loudness of the card doesnt bother me. i guess ill look if i can find a cheaper case but other than that im done. thanks.

you have the right to make laws to regulate the building of home use PCs
what laws do you impose?

>>105818455
Minimum 5-year warranty/replacement for all parts.
Some power safety & efficiency requirements (no 12VHPWR/12V-2x6 600W power draw clownfest).

>>105818480
i meant for people building at home things the public is and is not allowed to put into a PC they build

>>105818021
damn why dont ram companies just copy buildzoids ez timings? free fps and ez marketing.

What's a good but not retarded expensive phase change pad/sheet? I tried the one that gaylem keksperts recommends/shills and I feel like my temps got worse, though I admit I didn't do any testing beforehand.

>>105818528
ADO NOT BUY FROM THAT FAGGOT LINUS HE USES THJE MONEY OT FUND FUCK TRIPS WIT HIS BEST BUTT BUDDY LUKE

>>105818528
Moddiy sells legit PTM7950
Thermalright Helios is supposed to be a cheaper clone of it.

>>105818505
Some board manufacturers have their version of EZ memory tweaks, most often raising the tREFI and lowering a few other timings.
MSI has Memory Extension, ASUS has different XMP/EXPO presets, idk about the rest.
Stability is not guaranteed though.

>>105818551
*Heilos
It's funny to me that this is a measure of personality.

>>105818637
I wrote that while taking a shit. No joke.

this is what i came up with any suggestions/replacements ?
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/dpgkKq

kinda expensive so i would rly like to reduce the costs somehow.
the 9800x3d, the case and 64gb ram, 2 tb ssd are fix points i would not like to change

>meshify 3 can't fit 360mm aio rad at the top
i fucked up

>>105817202
I was too lazy to check
does not matter, makes it even worse since it was no perf difference still
press driver was an out for Steve, not the other way around

>>105817250
>>105817295
>>105817321
Joofoos still won

>>105818879
based retard

>>105818900
Fine wine was a meme, the jig is up
Steve scammed everyone
Or did I miss anything

What are the best value replacements for a 3700X from AMD's and Intel's side?

>>105818728
You can drop down to a Gen 4 2TB NVMe drive.
You can get a cheaper motherboard if you don't need USB4.
There are even cheaper boards if you're willing to buy ASRock (must update BIOS before CPU installation).
You can get a cheaper 1200~1300W PSU, drop down to 1000W if you're not planning to get a 5090.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/XQPRXR

>>105818999
7700x, dont buy intel-aviv, they're about 2 years away from liquidation anon.

>>105818038
name the games and engines they run on anon, also what monitor+gpu? i dont get performance issues, but Unity games on winblows 11 have a screen flickering affect whenever i left click, and no online resources or solutions work at the moment, other than a vague suggestion to reinstall winblows 11.

>>105818742
pccasegear.com/products/69416/fractal-design-meshify-3-xl-rgb-tg-clear-tint-case-white

you didn't get the 3 XL? the one that lets you install a 420mm AIO? dont worry, you should be able to install it to the front intakes, and move and reverse those 3 fans onto the ceiling of the case.

>>105818999
5700X or 7600/X. 7700/X is an option but not necessarily a better value for gaming.
Intel, probably a discounted 13600/14600K & Z790 board or a discounted 265K.

>>105818728
i changed the case
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/pfpfgn

>>105817935
>>105818118
why do you post this rage bait shit here?

>>105818999
7700x is retarded, just get 9600x

>>105816979
>>105818879
>>105818957

>>105819102
that comment is referring to steves monotone delivery during his videos in case you didn't watch it

anyway, since I am the least biased man on this general, let's plug the numbers in and see the comparison vs hub and fc with the games he chose only

fc's hypothesis was that steves test bench was cucked and could not deliver enough fps but due to driver optimizations he gained more fps due to the driver optimizations, but fc did not gain them due to running a faster system

>>105819141
Further more HUB was running a 9800x3d + 32gb 6000 on w11
Fc was running 13900k ecores disabled stock + 8000mhz xmp + w10
who won?

>>105819141
look at the top of his head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSHbbTcbcds

>>105815278 (OP)
nice machine but big minus for lcd

>>105818147
I haven't updated the BIOS since I heard that it has bricked some systems.

>>105819096
I'm not trying to rage bait... Unless you rage at the boggs?

>>105819192
>Fc was running 13900k ecores disabled stock + 8000mhz xmp + w10
Dipshit missed out on all the Intel hybrid core Windows optimizations pushed by Intel & MS on Windows 11, literally three full generations worth (Alder, Raptor, & Arrow Lake).
"Disable e-cores for gaming" meme is so old, there are plenty of games that know how to use them effectively to boost performance.
Disabling HT, enabling e-cores, and using these CPUs on W11 generally provides better performance.

>>105819238
Just don't build a PC, I heard some people ended up with bricked systems.

thanks for those suggestions:
>>105819009
yes i'm now at the point where i'm ready to skip usb4 so thanks for the b850 suggestions
i would go for asrock but all i heard was that they fry the 9800x3d cpus ?
>>105819087
the idea with the micro atx ain't bad but i would rather have a air cooler than a liquid one and i don't know if this would lead to heating issues

now about the psu: you both downgraded to a gold cert one, why ? is the gold cert good enough or what would be the limitations compared to the platinum cert ?

>>105819265
i spent an ungodly amount of money on this system, if the motherboard producer (Asus) can't guarantee that you can always recover from a failed bios update then why would i risk it? even if im the best tinkerer in the world i can't do anything about a random power failure, unless i buy a battery pack whatever those are called

>>105819247
>Dipshit missed out on all the Intel hybrid core Windows optimizations pushed by Intel & MS on Windows 11
only matters if you are running hybrid cpus with estrogen cores on like you said

>"Disable e-cores for gaming" meme is so old, there are plenty of games that know how to use them effectively to boost performance.
It was like recently cs got a patch to fix it, before that it was stuttering due to estrogencores, lol
I would not be suprised if it still introduces problems in random shit

>Disabling HT, enabling e-cores, and using these CPUs on W11 generally provides better performance.
I have not researched it or have cared enough, strong claims since you lose the instant any buggy shit is introduced due to the hybrid cuckery
exactly the same why a 9800x3d just works and dual ccds cuck you
one just works, one you claim works, and not only that but better "generally"
again, strong claims

it still seems that hybrid shit introduces more problems than not, also the hybrid crap works better on new intel cpus since they seem to have solved it with a better scheduler and whatever dog shit

I am suspect of your claim though

>>105819283
How often is the power failing in your Favela? What is the likelyhood of the power failing while you update your bios?

>>105819141
he intentionally bottlenecked the cpu in at least one of the games (cod iirc) which can be a good way to test performance in an individual test but not when comparing it to another test with completely different parameters
is he stupid or disingenuous?

>>105819238
ASRock boards have BIOS flashback. It's impossible to brick unless you purposely try to brick it.

>>105819277
1200W is just overkill for most scenarios. Do you specifically need that much wattage for something?
Air cooler would work fine, but that AIO would work a bit better for not much more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzu06oYycPY

>>105819391
FSR4/Xess2 works in Wuthering Waves and that has anti cheat too. So your anti cheat has to be worse than chinese to not accept optiscaler or linux.

>>105819335
>only matters if you are running hybrid cpus with estrogen cores on like you said
Don't buy these processors if you're not going to use the e-cores you paid for.

>It was like recently cs got a patch to fix it
So you're admitting it's the game engine's fault for not knowing how to effectively utilize the hybrid cores.

>since you lose the instant any buggy shit is introduced due to the hybrid cuckery
Even Dragon's Dogma 2 runs better with e-cores enabled, if Western devs have no excuse for this.

There are more gains to be had if the system in the pic disabled HT & Hypervisor/Memory Virtualization.

>>105816979
>use the press driver
It's to be expected from AMDSteve
He did the same with DOOM The Dark Ages and "tested" it before Nvidia and even AMD released their proper drivers for it
He's just a dumbshit AMDrone that still uses a 14900KS and 4090 in his home PC
It's okay though he got the 14900KS for free

>>105818540
Wasn't planning on it...

>>105818551
Thanks I'll look into those

>>105819510
you cant read

>>105819041
no, i got the regular meshify 3 because i thought it can mount 360mm at the top
i can't do front aio mount because i have 320mm gpu and it wouldn't fit with radiator at the front
i really should have checked this ahead of time

>>105819374
>Air cooler would work fine, but that AIO would work a bit better for not much more.
i just prefer air coolers over aio
>1200W is just overkill for most scenarios. Do you specifically need that much wattage for something?
not rly, but tbf i have no clue about psus
i just have to upgrade my gpu in the near future so i went for a platinum one to not limit my choice with that

>Spend hours tinkering with passive 4060 to get as much power through it as possible
>Finally test games
>Vram limited
>card never draws above 60w outside of synthetic openGL benchmarks and AI since turning up game settings just causes out of vram stutter
All that work just to fall for the 8GB meme

Who makes the best AMD motherboards?

>>105819752
they're all the same, pick the one with the features you want

What's the best HDD for general file storage like images and videos? I've had a 1 TB WD blue drive for about 10 years and I need a bigger one now

>>105819813
you shouldn't be using HDD's in 2025

>>105819813
Unless you need 10TB or more just buy an SSD

How are the DeskMini and DeskMeet? I have a 3400G in a board I'm not too enthused, and I like the idea of a small, low-power PC to take anywhere. More interested in the DeskMeet, since I can reuse the RAM sticks and put in a GT 1030 I have lying about, also might replace the power supply with a 300W one from Amazon.

>>105819837
HDDs are safer for long term storage than SSDs

>>105819909
No
You've been reading some dumb shit

>>105819909
are you planning on unplugging them for 20 years or something?

>>105819355
>he intentionally bottlenecked the cpu in at least one of the games (cod iirc)
how? he was running low settings

>>105819463
>Don't buy these processors if you're not going to use the e-cores you paid for.
that's why a 9800x3d is a better buy if you don't intend to tweak the shit and become an intelschizo yes
unless the price of intel cpus drop insanely much so they become viable
or if intel start offering p core only

>So you're admitting it's the game engine's fault for not knowing how to effectively utilize the hybrid cores.
yeah and the solution is just disabling the shit so you don't have to deal with the problems

>Even Dragon's Dogma 2 runs better with e-cores enabled
>There are more gains to be had if the system in the pic disabled HT & Hypervisor/Memory Virtualization.
I have seen the ecore meme tested from HUB I think it was in CP2077 before too and it showed gains but other tested it and it showed no gains compared to an ecore off

I still have my doubts the ecores actually add performance at all, especially on older intel cpus before latest gen where they allegedly solved the scheduler fuckery, although it inherently has worse gaming performance so it doesn't matter again
the testing all over is too fucky to be trusted
I have not seen enough evidence of it actually mattering

I literally don't know, good if it works if you don't have to disable 80% of your cpu

>>105819510
used the release drivers but yeah

>>105820202
The best overall Intel hybrid core setting was already known before the Arrow Lake Windows optimizations made them even better.
Play a game with shit hybrid core optimization? Park the e-cores by hitting the [Scroll Lock] key, this option is available in every single LGA1700/1851 motherboard BIOS.

>I literally don't know
Then shut the fuck up and stay in your lane.

Where can I find a cheap 5090

>>105820395
up your ass

>>105819813
I use picrel to store thousands of torrented games for the next half of eternity. It should last until I die. I only start it up every now and then to write at least a dozen of games to it or to copy several archives from it for installation. Most of the time the disk remains unpowered. I modded a switch in the IO panel of my case (ProArt PA604) not to choose front fan speed but to switch power for the disk on/off. This required some soldering but is worth the gained functionality. And it's so silent!

>>105820395
In the future!

>>105820395
you do you think such a thing exists? are you retarded?

>>105819909
>ancient contraption with actual moving parts is safer than a bunch of transistors
tech illiterates can be funny sometimes

>>105820254
>intel actually brought back the turbo button
kek

>The Broadcom BCM94313HMGB is a monolithic, single-chip, Bluetooth 4.0 compliant, stand-alone baseband processor with an integrated 2.4 GHz transceiver. It supports 802.11n wireless LAN and Bluetooth 4.0, operating at 2.4 GHz with supported speeds of 150 Mbps for IEEE 802.11 b/g/n. The device has a form factor of Half Height (1 1/8" x 1") - 1x1 and uses a PCI-e Mini Card interface. The product dimensions are 1.18 x 0.2 x 1.97 inches, and it weighs 0.211 ounces.

>The Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 is a single-chip solution that combines dual-band (2.4/5 GHz), 2-stream 802.11n and Bluetooth 4.0 technologies for notebooks, netbooks, and tablets. It offers data rates of 300 Mbps and TCP throughput of more than 200 Mbps when used in 2x2 mode. The AR9462 also supports the latest Bluetooth 4.0 specification, which includes both High Speed and Low-Energy operation to extend personal area connectivity to a variety of devices. The chip includes a Bluetooth EDR radio, a 32-bit Tensilica Xtensa CPU, USB 2.0 interface, two 1.2v voltage regulators for analog and digital circuit, auxiliary EEPROM interface, on board PLL, RAM, and on board one time programmable (OTP) ROM. It also delivers superior WLAN/Bluetooth coexistence to ensure the best possible wireless experience.

the qualcomm is the better one yes?

>>105818728
> kinda expensive
The PSU is unnecessary even if you eventually get a 5080 Super. A 850W for half the price would be enough for a 5070 Ti, 1000W enough for any GPU.
Do you need 64GB of RAM?
Get a PCIe 4.0 SSD instead of 5.0.
The case is a greenhouse not a good airflow PC case and don't buy anything from NZXT in general.

>>105819087
But again shitty NZXT.

>>105818742
Meshify 3XL can even fit 420

>>105819510
>cant even read
>still ban evading
whats wrong with you pedonigger

>>105820569
nta but i've had 3 hdds that survived for over 10 years (one that i use in my backup pc is 12 years old) and i've had 2 ssds give up within a year
i know that's anecdotal evidence but have they actually reduced the failure rates?
i only use ssds for games because of those experiences but maybe i just got giga unlucky

>>105818038
Let me guess: you did not use DDU + NVCleanstall, amirite?

>>105820615
>>105820624
i took it for the form factor, i need a case with a max height of 440 mm
any suggestions ?

>>105820254
>Then shut the fuck up and stay in your lane.
that means I have not seen enough conclusive data to convince me the estrogen core meme has been solved, as opposed to the ecore off meme, prior to ultra series
not that you are right

>dannyz
he's Indian

data inconclusive to make final judgements on this

>Play a game with shit hybrid core optimization? Park the e-cores by hitting the [Scroll Lock] key, this option is available in every single LGA1700/1851 motherboard BIOS.
that does not just work and is fafo

is Jufus wrong? could be, why does he do what he do? he runs w10 too

time will tell

>The best overall Intel hybrid core setting was already known before the Arrow Lake Windows optimizations made them even better.
Did you test it yourself? if not you are relying on hearsay too

I did not test it myself so I cannot confirm either

I heard 5070TI can't run old games.. but how old?, can it run RPGMaker games or is it another problem?

>>105820771
if a game needs physX it can't do it

>>105820649
I've had SSDs die on me and it's annoying because they give no warning
I've had HDDs fail but there's always been signs it's about to go

>>105820771
you are not alone, some older dx9 dx10 and dx11 releases will freeze on my titan x

>>105820632
yeah, i ended up ordering it
maybe going 360mm aio was a mistake, before i had lancool 215 + 280mm and it had a nice balance of available space without the case itself being gigantic
before that i had phanteks P600S, which felt too big since i didn't use its gazzilion drive bays

>>105820768
>Did you test it yourself? if not you are relying on hearsay too
There is no hearsay when Microsoft and Intel took more time to optimize the Windows scheduler for the hybrid cores that benefitted Alder Lake & Raptor Lake CPUs as well.
https://community.intel.com/t5/Blogs/Tech-Innovation/Client/Field-Update-1-of-2-Intel-Core-Ultra-200S-Series-Performance/post/1650490

>>105820799
>I've had SSDs die on me and it's annoying because they give no warning
>I've had HDDs fail but there's always been signs it's about to go
yep, that's another reason i'm cautious about ssds
hdds are like old people who scream out in pain in their last days
sdds are like old people who die quietly in their sleep out of nowhere

Why the fuck does anyone still do watercooling in this day and age? I'm including AIOs in this.

>>105821223
Some CPUs need them @ maximum load.
Liquid cooling also provides more OCing headroom.

>>105815534
Any advise on this build?

>>105821223
GPU and CPU power usage is higher than ever so water cooling makes more sense than ever

>>105821223
why not
aio is always more quiet and only giant noctua coolers can surpass it in absolute performance

>>105820792
>>105820834
Ugh, I see. And I just bought some Batman and Mafia games on Steam. Now that I've watched a few videos about it, I guess I can still get some use out of my old GTX 1060 6GB as a dedicated PhysX card.
How hard is it to replace the fans on these cards? One of the reasons I'm building a new PC is because one of the fans is broken but if I can still get some use out of it...

>>105821223
aesthetics

>>105821532
depends on the card but shouldn't be hard if you're doing a like for like parts swap

>>105821223
lower temp = lower voltage = better perf

Anyone know when AOC's new mini-led monitors are supposed to be showing up for western market?

>>105821705
>better perf
lmao

>>105819631
send it back or exchange it for the XL if you bought from a physical store, its annoying, but i had to wait months for the 9950x3d to release before i could finish my new pc, had the rest of the pc sitting in boxes for like 4 months straight waiting.

combining my Epyc 7401 server and ryzen 1700 and 1080ti rig. with a slice of an epyc 9474F but looking for some GPU advice. mostly 1080/1440 older titles. tarkov being the most recent. looking at 5070 TI am I retarded?

>>105821758
How do you think CPU/GPU boost works?

Any recommendations for a 63" desk? I'm looking at amazon and not finding stuff I like.

>>105819723
>trying to minmax with a poverty-bait ewaste 8GB Njudean gpu
Nice try goyim. Maybe spend more time working to get a less scammy gpu instead of autisming about noise. I don't hear my pc at all when i game with noise cancelling headphones at all, its such a non-issue if you have a newer case with good noise muffling design and decent quality fans.

>>105821835
goyim is plural. who else are you talking to?

>>105821830
anything that is height adjustable is great, or if not, more than 1 support leg on each side so the table doesnt start vibrating when you're typing for extended periods of time.

>>105821867
the spergs with buyers remorse who boughted Njudean gpus ITT you grammar schizo?

>>105821835
Radeon doesn't have a low power GPU so I don't know what your even shilling

>>105821877
nah, you thought goyim was just a synonym for goy
as an anti-semite, i'm stopping you from harming the reputation of our community

I want to do something like this. Is there a case for something like this? I dont care about being compact at all.

ANONS

I have fixed my monitor's intermittent black screen issue. It was the last possible cause in my troubleshooting before I returned the entire thing. The display port cable that came WITH the monitor (brand new btw) was faulty. New cable, no issues.

>>105821980
huge announcement
congrats on not having to return it. i hate the hassle of returning big items so much i usually just tank the loss and try to forget about it

>>105821980
now that you think you've fixed it and convinced yourself it was the cable, it will happen again and drive you into psychosis

>>105821561
Only honest answer

>>105822000
checked

>>105822001
I'll throw the thing through microcenter's front door if it happens again. But it hasn't happened in 3 days now, so I think gucci.

>>105821935
no retard, i was just shitposting while very tired, im not watching my grammar because i don't care enough about it to spellcheck myself before hitting post. I'm about to go to bed now, not that it matters or justifies anything.

As the most based and red pilled anon in this general, your concern means nothing to me.

>>105821963
gpus exhaust air down, this is a very retarded setup and i have no idea what case would even let you make a mistake like this.

>>105821980
when you say intermittent black screen issue, how long was the periods? i once had an Acer monitor do it only when gaming for like 2 seconds at a time, cunts refused to honour the warranty too, luckily consumer law protected me and the pc store took the hit instead after i showed them proof.

>>105821980
>>105822012
Name and shame the monitor brand.

>>105821980
>It was the last possible cause in my troubleshooting
It always is... Glad you fixed it.

>>105822083
Okay.

MSI MPG 272URX

>>105822099
Lmao, that’s like a $1000 monitor right?
And they shipped a faulty UHBR20 cable?

>>105822134
Yes.

And yes it was the UHBR20 cable that came with the monitor.

Now, new UBHR20 cable, no intermittent black screen issues at all. No other changes except that cable.

after many years i have begun to consider upgrading my cpu/mobo and ram. i have an fx6300. i have no idea what an affordable cpu/mobo would be in this day and age. i mainly play games like tarkov or sea power and i might rarely edit a video too. id like to keep my psu and gpu for now i have an rx480 and a 650watt psu. any recommendations?

>>105822159
literally anything you buy will be gpu-bound because your pc is dinosaur-tech. High capacity PSU's are more stable when power fluctuates and you might not get a random shutdown, if you wanna milk a PSU for a very long time, dont be a jew and buy a low-wattage one.

if you're gonna jew out and buy a substandard build to milk for another 10 years, i suppose a 9700x/7700x with 32/48/64gigs of CL30 6000mhz DDR5 gskill/corsair ram, and a b850 MSI tomahawk will probably do for you.

>>105822074
>gpus exhaust air down, this is a very retarded setup and i have no idea what case would even let you make a mistake like this.
I need you to stop posting bait anon

>rtx hdr works with dolby vision in mpc-be
i have no idea when this happened, but it is a welcomed change

>>105822287
>single fan EVGA gpu
>in 2025
dinosaur tech isnt relevant anon, this is a pc BUILDING general. And most posters arent shitskins from turd-world countries like you.

I got a computer that randomly freezes then shuts down under load while showing a green screen on one of my monitors without any error message, then it restarts while doing 5 beeps and stays on a black screen until I turn off the power, then it restarts as normal. Doesn't seems to be the temps and it happens seemingly randomly when playing vidya. Any ideas?

>>105822301

>>105822304
Njudean reference models are proven to cause cpu+vrm thermal throttling because of that bad design, even if i hated myself enough to buy one, i would buy a third party one that blows stuff down. That stupid design is 100% a case of fixing something until its broke, gpu fans blow down, that is the best design.

Whats your next 80iq gotcha image?

>>105822328

>>105822328
>gpu fans blow down, that is the best design.
yeah blowing down when hot air naturally RAISES UP is surely the best design

>>105822328
retard

>>105822351
air pressure output of hot air is like ~5% of the force of a single decent rpm fan

tried linux on new build because win 11 is gay globohomo fag shit. Nothing works I hate computers.

>>105818171
Look for a 9070 steel legend. If its more expensive than picrel, take picrel.

>>105822466
maybe mac is more your thing

>>105822159
let go grandpa, it's time to rebuild

KINO

>>105822645
Commie Silicon Valley fag shit

are people really still playing at 1080p? Building new PCs not ones on ancient hardware

Anyone know WTF to do when your keyboard won't run at 1000hz and completely random latency?
I'm averaging about 20-100hz. Sometimes it goes to 1000hz. Latency is insane 40ms-260ms.
Bufferbloat is B rated, 21ms download latency.

I've had this issue on my last pc build (with an unstable 14700k) and just built a completely new build minus ram, GPU, peripherals, PSU.
(7800X3D brand new, with a new MSI x870e mpg ti wifi)

Keyboard: Main (Glorious GMMK 2 96%) + patriot viper v765 as a test keyboard. Both same results with latency set to 1/2ms.
Mouse runs at 1000hz no problem (razer viper v2)


Also can anyone upload a pic or let me know their results with keyboard polling rate tester websites? I know theyre junk but I want a baseline for what others are getting too

Why do you advise OLED to entrance tier builds?

I have 7800x3d and 4080, got this at the end of 2023.
Even with this build OLED is little too much, like 70-90% the price of the build. Monitors were always like 10-20% of the PC+monitor combo.
People on reddit calling me retard for having LG 27GP850-B for my setup.

>>105822752
Most PC gamers have outdated hardware.

>>105822761
>96%
Retard alert

>>105822798
60% are for fags. 96% looks cool.

>>105822787
monitorfags are crazy and think if a monitor didn't get a 9.6 or whatever on rtings it's trash not worth buying
reviewers have also gone crazy and only rate oleds highly and call everything else trash

>>105822820
100% only.
Even with additional buttons

>>105822838
So this monitor is bad, whatever.

>>105822867
it's not bad
OLEDfags just call everything that isn't an OLED bad and ignore all of OLEDs cons

I just realized 16:9 is 4:3 squared

>>105822752
that's all 4060 8gb and 5060 8gbs are good for if you want to play modern games

I badly want to switch to 4K but these FPS...

>>105822916
Chase that 4k FPS. Upgrade your GPU every 2 years. Do it.

>>105822916
>RT takes a card from 60fps to barely over 40fps
brutal

>>105822916
4k + rt + fake frames is just peak gpu goybait

>>105822916
you need a 5090 for 4k

>>105822787
Because the quality of your monitor sets the baseline experience.
You don't need an OLED, but you should at least own an IPS gaming monitor that is known to present accurate SDR colors and have a decent response time.
Your LG monitor's fine in that respect.

People buy OLED because they want better blacks & HDR.

>>105817777
the difference is not that striking tho. gaytracing aside. some extra fps, whatever. it's nice, sure, but if you got RDNA3 you're good all things considered. people out there on 1070 and rx570

>>105822916
I still use a 3080 for 4K gaming with no issues achieving at least 60 fps. In multiplayer games I can hit 120 fps easily too. Whether that's at native in old games like battlefront 2 which didn't have DLSS or modern games which do have DLSS which makes it even easier to hit good framerates. A 4070 tier card can do 4K60+ gaming easily. I'm currently playing FF7 rebirth (just started it) and I'm running high settings with the resolution scale between DLSS performance and native. I can't even tell any resolution changes but I've so far had a basically locked 60 fps.

Guys, guys please. 60 FPS is poor tier. Just buy a console at that point.

>>105823260
I don't mind playing single-player games @ 60 FPS, keeps my card cool & quiet.

>>105823260
60 is still the sweet spot for single player games which don't require super precise input and accuracy. Less power consumption, less heat, less noise.

>>105823288
tried cyberpunk benchmark on troonix and used stock wine which sucks balls for some reason but still like 80fps or something on ultra, and like the fans were off during the whole benchmark like what

>>105817890
>you coping retard
You project so much you should open a cinema

>>105818033
>I don't use the features I paid for because FSR3 looks like dogpiss
Yeah i don't support upscaling because it made developers lazy same as how framegen is a scam ask me how i know you are a Mark

>>105823431
I'm not the one who's claiming AMD execs said FSR4 is impossible to port to RDNA3 cards.

>>105823449
Game devs don't give a fuck about your little gesture, you don't buy games anyway.

>>105823449
>same as how framegen is a scam
Your ethical Radeon business fully bought into this little scam btw.
>I think the way we think about it is in the future, you know, yes, I think it’s absolutely true that you’re going to see more generated pixels, both from us [AMD] as well as everybody that’s that’s in the graphic space, because it is the path forward in driving more performance and more immersion and better experiences for end users.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2569453/qa-amd-execs-explain-ces-gpu-snub-future-strategy-and-more.html

>>105823034
> You don't need an OLED, but you should at least own an IPS gaming monitor that is known to present accurate SDR colors and have a decent response time.
That's why it was chosen.

>>105823537

>>105823537 >>105823575
>bombers or jeets
come home white christian hetersexual gay man

>>105823034
But why people buying OLED for 5070? Monitor is probably more expensive than whole build. Average OLED monitors are €2000

>>105823660
1440p OLEDs can be found at around $500~800, 4K between $800~$1300.
It's not that crazy to pay $500 for a higher-end 1440p monitor, that's what 1440p 240Hz IPS monitors like the LG 27GR83Q-B used to cost.

>>105823660
OLED makes games of every graphical fidelity level, videos and images of every resolution, etc. look better all the time every time. It improves your entire computing experience and is frankly worth it over a more expensive GPU or CPU.

>>105823704
oh god here we go again

>>105823707
NTA, but some people are willing to pay the premium & deal with the eventual replacement of OLED monitors to avoid the downsides of the other display panels.

>>105823660
OLED TVs go on clearance when the new year models come in, I got LG C2 42 for $700 usd a couple years ago

>>105823704
Completely depends in the usage case and also the quality of the monitor. There are several things which can make your experience noticeably shit when using OLED like the low fullscreen brightness compared to LCD which isn't ideal for a bright room and also how OLED handles brightness in smaller windows even in HDR which can cause gamma shift and make it look weird when going from a small white window (e.g. notepad) to full screen. OLEDs best usage case is with HDR but HDR on PC is hit or miss.

>>105823763
If you're going to buy an OLED TV then nothing but the high end is worth it. Mini-LED has surpassed the cheap OLED models by having way better brightness and consequently higher color volume, black levels perceptibly the same due to cheap miniLED TVs having thousands of zones now, cheaper etc. I have both an LG OLED and a cheap miniLED TV and the miniLED TV is literally as good or better than the OLED.

>>105822351
That's not the exact problem. Hot air rising is usually used as the rationale for putting exhaust fans high up and intakes below, the standard rear fan is where it is for this reason. To make a blow down work you'd have to rework and custom mod most cases. Even if you were to reverse the fan directions it is just not optimized for getting the hot air away from the case to avoid recirculation.

>>105823288
Nyo
60 FPS is the minimum now, and always has been
You settle for 60, not find perfection in it

>>105823971
What are you blabbering about?

What do yall think about this case? YGT V300 Matx case. the price is decent in my cunt but the company is not famous and all the builds from others I've seen with this case are all cheap parts and no expensive ones

>>105823815
response time still better on oled

>>105823260
Most console plebs are still happy with 30.

>>105824413
It's a metal box. Unless its from manufacturers with an actual reputation of being bad, it will probably be fine. Check the specs first. Also there's an obvious flaw on the front view already; the front fans will be obstructed by the insufficiently wide mesh. It won't operate as well as it should.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1q1nwoj8k
Ruh roh, the blue eyed Australian is calling out AMD Steve #1 for lying, and to other tech media sites parroting these results without verifying themselves. Even mentioned that he tried to contact Steve for video proof of the FINE WINE driver performance increase, but was ghosted. He speculates that the difference may have been a hardware change instead with NVME DirectStorage being enabled in the newer test.

Reminder that this was the same guy that spent any time at all trying to figure out exactly what bad things Asrock's boards were doing to 9800X3Ds, while AMD Steve #2 was trying his best to sweep the problem under the rug.

>>105825068
brian is pretty based
pretty much one of the only guys who noticed raptorlake having IO lag that pre-alderlake intel cpus didn't have

Want to make the jump from the 1080 to 3090 for AI sloppa. Can I keep other parts or do I need to change anything else?

Mobo: MSI H310-A-PRO
CPU: Intel Core i7-9700k (not OC'd)
RAM: Corsair DDR4-3200 2x8 GB

>>105825068
>https://youtu.be/hf1q1nwoj8k?t=659
>HUB claimed they contacted nvidia about the warhammer 2 problem and confirmed it
>but nvidia told TYC that while HUB filed a complaint, nvidia wasn't able to replicate the issue
holy shit that lying cunt

>>105825222
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1q1nwoj8k
>HUB claimed they contacted nvidia about the space marines 2 problem and confirmed it
>but nvidia told TYC that while HUB filed a complaint, nvidia wasn't able to replicate the issue
holy shit that lying cunt steve

>>105825233
meant for >>105825068

>>105825220
Those parts will be fine. You may, however, need a new PSU. 3090s are pretty power-hungry and spike hard (though maybe not so much while genning).

>>105825261
oh yeah I forgot - RM 750x yay or nay?

>>105825274
Should be fine. It's a good model so worst that'll happen is it'll shut down gracefully.

I may be a little retarded, but I just switched over to AMD, never having used their control panel before, and I can't get my frames capped to 180. Only frame rate target control is enabled.

>>105825068
AMD fine wine more like AMD fetid shit

https://www.scorptec.com.au/bundle/cpu/amd-socket-am4/8488-bdl-8488

Ausfag here, is this a decent deal? The bundle can be optioned for different CPU/RAM/mobo, but it seems cheap as for a relatively modern setup.

>>105825482
AM4 is a dead end platform so it’s not a good idea to build new unless you’re on an insanely tight budget

>>105825385
radeon chill lets u cap framerate

>>105825594
NVIDIA control panel lets you cap framerates on a per-game basis, does AMD really not have this capability?

>>105825606
it does, you can use radeon chill to cap frame rates on a per game basis

>>105825385
you know source games have a command that limits fps right

>>105825563
Would it be a good upgrade over an i7 9700, or should I just wait for AM5 shit to get cheaper?

>>105825701
not a super meaningful upgrade, an AM5 would be a much bigger jump

>>105825725
I'll hold on to the 9700 for now then, thanks anon.

>>105825701
Its a downgrade because the 5600XT is a rebranded mobile chip with smol L3$ and low clocks

>>105825606
>>105825385
FRTC/Nvidia limiter is garbage as per Blurbusters CEO.

In order of priority it should be: in-game limiter > reflex/antilag limiter > RTSS limiter

>Nvidia limiter
Lmao trash

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>>105825898
>>105825898
>>105825898

>>105817777
>Neural Block Texture Compression is a new graphics technique that dramatically reduces memory usage, while maintaining exceptional visual fidelity.
So everything will look like shit even with AI framegen turned off? Wonderful, I'm just not going to bother with new games.

>>105826178
You don't move the needle, you pirate games anyway.

>>105826205
I buy them on sale these days, unless it's a reasonably priced indie title. There hasn't been a AAA I would pay full price for since RDR2.

>>105821156
You are asking me why Jofoos does disable ecores still, he must think it has some validity
keep in mind he is running 500fps esport games not 70fps
so there must still be some issues due to his behavior
since I have not bought his course and not in his shitscord I have no idea why this is the case

>There is no hearsay when Microsoft and Intel took more time to optimize the Windows scheduler for the hybrid cores that benefitted Alder Lake & Raptor Lake CPUs as well.
This does not guarantee it behaves properly in esports and without issues

again you are trusting your sources

>>105825233
>nvidia wasn't able to replicate the issue
...wait what issue? the one where textures don't load on 8 gb cards or something like that?
I haven't been able to replicate most of what hardware unboxed reports either, according to their testing f1 25 requires like 13 gb of vram for 1080p high settings when in reality you can see for yourself by looking up "gtx 1650 f1 25" that the game works perfectly fine at 1080p high settings even on a 4 gb card, I truly do believe their testing is sometimes faked.