Plasma Display Panel - /g/ (#105822104) [Archived: 479 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:18:51 AM No.105822104
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yeah remember the "400hz" plasma tv? that was a thing and everyone has memory-holed that tech
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:21:22 AM No.105822123
Maybe it's preventatively expensive to produce?
Maybe 400hz is overkill for most applications?
Do you have a source for the claim it was memory holed?
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:23:36 AM No.105822142
>>105822104 (OP)
too expensive to mass produce
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:27:37 AM No.105822168
They were 600hz not 400hz.

And the 600hz thing was mostly a meme.

LCD/OLED/QD-OLED works by rendering 1 frame per hz, 60hz = 60 frames per second, 120hz = 120 frames per second.

A 600Hz plasma TV worked by rendering 1 frame for every 10hz and then it would flash each frame 10 times before moving onto the next frame. So 600hz = 60 (distinct) frames per second being flashed 10 times each.

Each frame being flashed on a plasma screen was also much dimmer which is why they had to flash the frame 10 times, to give it additional perceived brightness for your eyes.

One of the benefits of 600hz TVs was enhanced motion clarity, but they were super power hungry, bad for the environment, and quickly being outpaced by LCD and later OLED in most other categories.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:51:58 AM No.105822686
I don't care about 400hz plasma tech.

Because you see that image?
I see that image.
I have eyes.
My eyes tell me that's a rectangle.
My eyes tell me that's a long rectangle on its side.

My brain knows I hate long rectangles on their side and they are shit for display tech.
Plasma is pointless if it doesn't bring back the mainstreaming of 4:3, 5:4, 8:7 & 1:1 monitors and displays. 16:10 shitters can jump on board but only because they're good at reading 2 pages side by side in a lawyers office.

Everyone else who bought onto big wide without owning a Hasselblad xpan or a fujifilm TX1, nah. You get the rope and a TFT or LCD panel from the mid-00's. You get what you fucking deserve.
Death to all widescreen shitters. Enjoy your hard coded margins in hell you sons of bitches, you even killed web design by letting the phone faggots in.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:54:23 AM No.105822699
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>>105822104 (OP)
For me it's SED
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:55:37 AM No.105822704
>>105822104 (OP)
Blacks aren't as good as OLED blacks. Can't slim them down and they used a lot of power. That is why Plasmas went away.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:57:45 AM No.105822716
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>>105822699
>Those black levels in a bright room

Oh no no no no no no...
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:04:09 AM No.105822766
>>105822104 (OP)
My dad was into plasmas but they kinda sucked. They had worse burn in than oleds. They also had to be on standby all the time or it would take a minute or two to show a picture
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 3:04:29 AM No.105822767
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:21:33 AM No.105824216
>>105822767
good lord, I remember the awful Plasma burn in back then. thank god I use IPS monitor with mini PC as my tv right now
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:23:39 AM No.105824224
>>105824216
I just run the white bar on mine now and then and it's fine
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:51:40 AM No.105824338
>>105822716
CRTs had perfect black levels, and this would be no different.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:54:47 AM No.105824352
>>105824338
In dark rooms, yes
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:15:56 AM No.105824469
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>>105822104 (OP)
First, it's not 400hz. It's 60hz repeated 6-10 times. Plasmas were impulse displays much like CRTs (also had the motion clarity of CRTs), and natively flickered in sync with the framerate. The 400/600hz existed literally just to reduce that flicker, at the cost of massively increasing motion blur.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:19:56 AM No.105824493
>>105822168
>One of the benefits of 600hz TVs was enhanced motion clarity
Wrong, it's entirely the other way around. 600hz plasmas had the same dogshit motion clarity of modern LCD/OLED, while native 60hz plasmas had motion clarity much like on CRTs. 1080p plasmas capable of displaying 50/60hz without sub field drive (the 600hz bullshit) are quite sought after by motion clarity enthusiasts.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:21:55 AM No.105824502
>>105822104 (OP)
I remember but that was fake marketing shit, like you couldn't feed a 400Hz signal into one of those TVs, pretty sure they only actually worked at 60Hz.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 8:39:42 AM No.105824582
>>105824469
I just switched from an HD plasma panel to a UHD VA panel and frankly the lack of deinterlacing on the new TV is far more noticeable than the motion blur on the old one
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:13:15 PM No.105826031
>muh deep blacks
>and also 4-bit dithered colors
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:47:48 PM No.105828449
Remember SED display technology from 2007 ? It was shown at trade shows and was apparently at least as good as CRTs.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:53:43 PM No.105828513
>>105824493
There was no such thing as a "60Hz" plasma, you're simply misremembering the technology.

If a Plasma advertised 60hz it was for marketing reasons to avoid confusing people compared to LCDs at 60hz.

Basically, all plasma TVs for consumers used sub-field drive, which is what the 600hz number comes from.

This is literally the kind of shit you could've just asked ChatGPT or Gemini and not made yourself look this retarded. But here we are.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:55:38 PM No.105828535
>>105828513
>you could've just asked ChatGPT or Gemini
stop using chatbots as search engines
they don't know shit, they hallucinate
you're on /g/, you should know
stop acting like a tech retard
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 6:57:43 PM No.105828560
>>105828535
I didn't use a chatbot, i'm just saying this shit is the literal basics of consumer plasma displays and he LITERALLY would've had more information had he asked a chatbot since he clearly has no clue what the fuck he's saying.

The BIGGEST selling point of plasma was increased motion clarity and this retard comes out saying plasma had dogshit motion clarity.

He's clearly retarded and a chatbot will unironically be smarter than him 99 times out of 100.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:02:57 PM No.105828612
How hard can display technology be? Just pulse electricity it's an electromagnetic wave.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:28:05 PM No.105828903
>>105828612
If display tech is so easy then how come blindness hasn't been cured or brought beyond levels of an ewaste ipad nano display?
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:46:28 PM No.105829087
retards
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>>105828560
you're as retarded as him, but for different reasons
we should organize retard fights with both of you
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:48:34 PM No.105829099
>>105829087
No, you're just a luddite that thinks AI is still exactly where it was 5 years ago.


Face it, AI won. Just because it's not perfect in it's current state doesn't mean it isn't smarter than 99% of the retards posting here.
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:51:13 PM No.105829116
Plasma is shit, even compared to LCD with BFI.

CRT is still supreme. LCD with proper rolling backlight is a close second, all two of them (XG2431/XG270).
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:56:49 PM No.105829148
VA-Panels have slighlty better black levels than CRT
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 7:58:20 PM No.105829159
All I remember is that I found it very enjoyable to play retroshit on plasma.
Sure now I have my OLED monitor with BFI and all that stupid nonsense, and some consumer grade CRT TV (that is, some 30 year old cheap piece of shit that still works somehow) but I miss that. I just don't want that enormous thing with no durability and more power consumption than my monitor and my desktop PC put together. I don't give a shit that I can find a 50'' plasma TV for 50 bucks. It's also already hot in here I don't need a fucking sauna.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:21:11 PM No.105830543
IGZO
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:26:29 PM No.105830602
>>105824352
nothing with look good in a bright room. on my oled I can see my body in the black parts unless I wear a black shirt
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:40:24 PM No.105830750
>>105829099
Why would you ask it stuff that you don't know the answers to if it can't even count letters in a word ?
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:56:58 PM No.105830911
>>105830750
Why would you use a calculator if it can't even make music? Because tools have different use cases. If AI can't count letters in a word (due to tokenization), it doesn't mean it's not useful for other stuff.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 10:58:07 PM No.105830919
>>105822104 (OP)
Kek I thought they existed up until a year ago. I am really out of touch.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:06:14 PM No.105830996
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>>105822767
>$150
I'll give you $300.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:08:40 PM No.105831010
>>105822104 (OP)
>yeah remember the "400hz" plasma tv?
no
I remember a lot of 600Hz marketing jewish tricks
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Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:10:19 PM No.105831026
>>105824493
>clarity enthusiasts
new euphemism for autism just dropped
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:12:00 PM No.105831043
>>105829116
CRTs are too big. To get the same screen space, I'd need like 300 lbs of electronics on my desk. I was hyped for years on OLED, but it's been underwhelming.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:15:16 PM No.105831070
>>105831010
800hz? That's ridiculous, how could you put, 1000hz in a monitor. 1200hz is to many hertz.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 11:29:44 PM No.105831221
>>105830750
One of the things current AIs are actually GOOD at is searching up bulk information and presenting it.

You still need to watch it for some things but as long as you ask it clarifying questions and to provide sources if you doubt something it's saying, you can usually analyze the source it provides to verify what if what it's saying is true or bullshit.

For something specific like plasma TVs and how they work, it's just going to pour through tons of articles, forum posts, wiki articles, and if you ask it to, even scientific papers that touch on the subject matter to give you an overview of how the technology works and its benefits/detriments.