He has a valid point

Fair enough. They're like slaves. Nothing wrong with owning them.

India is russia’s bitch. Pajeets in the West are russian spies. It’s just a socially-acceptable way to put russian spies at important positions. Think about it.

>>105825690
after seeing russia struggle to capture a back water pig farmer country I can't see them being competent at anything

>>105825674 (OP)
>work twice as hard and still get worse output
ouch

>>105825674 (OP)
>Borderline slave labor is better for my business
Whoa no shit

>>105825719
This, anyone in tech knows it to be true
Work smart not hard
Jeets eternally irredeemably btfo

>>105825674 (OP)
If you take their pathological lying at face value.

>>105825709
Ivan here. Russia is not competent in anything by default (except IT but not in the last 5-7 years for obvious "if you making money, state will fuck you and take your buisness" and "if you not like state ENOUGH, it will fuck you and your family and your dog" reasons) and right now just a China's bitch. Reading about "muh russia" is funniest shit when I see it.

All "russia can be onto something" discussions you see are propaganda or propaganda-infused. That's the second thing russia is not completely incompetent, but you do not need competency in shitting western Internet. Ivan out.

>>105825674 (OP)
this is why we need to eat the rich

>>105825674 (OP)
>Americans are le bad because they don't grovel at my feet for pennies like Indians do
And the right voted for this

>>105826140
>if you making money, state will fuck you and take your buisness
care to elaborate?

>>105825674 (OP)
i thought he was bringing us the money and the jobs? ummm?

>>105826239
>create successful business
>tovarisch major likes it
>you get an offer you can't refuse/polonium tea
>tovarisch major now owns your business
Pretty much every IT business in russia been taken over like that.

>>105825674 (OP)
So move yourself and your retarded companies to India then stupid fuck.

he could have given h1b to white south africans, or at most black south africans if he wasn't racist
but he didn't do either of those, he gave h1b to a race that wasn't even related to his south african ancestors
it's so weird how his whole way of thinking is when judging someone

>>105825674 (OP)
i thought he cared about real muricans and their jawbs real life iron man how could you :sob::sob::sob:

>>105826288
its not any different here but we pretend we're free and have rights as a larp.

>>105826232
funniest shit ever.

This dude sure hates Americans for someone starting an "America Party"

>>105825674 (OP)
he was just peaking on pills
give him a break

>>105826232
the funny thing is he just created a new political party too. off to a good start..

>>105825674 (OP)
if his point is so valid, what is it? surely you can articulate it for us timmychuds, saar

>>105826288
goddamn
even my favorite, devexpress?

>>105825674 (OP)
Crazy how he came to America became a billionaire and there’s absolutely no loyalty and no gratitude just completely selling out to India. It’s pretty much a middle finger to the country that supported him.

>>105826768
Trump should deport him to el salvador.

There should be a $100K/employee tax for all H1B visa workers, this offsets the labor costs vs hiring native Americans and the tax can all go to ICE.

>>105826232
Everybody on the right attacked him for that while everybody on the left agrees with him on that and want more immigration for the same reason

Indians are human gold. If an Indian goes to work in China the entire world should go to nuclear war with them. They'll create anti-matter UFOs that will help us colonize the stars. Without them, the human race will not survive. Actually, they're the only human beings, the true master race, everyone else is an animal.

>>105826808
Make it 500 * <yearly pre-tax income + benefits> OR $500k (whichever is higher) to really hammer it home. If they really need a specialist that their own nation cannot provide, they will pay for it, it's just cost of business. This curbs H1B Visa abuse to replace normal employees with cheap labor.

>>105826768
you mean his rug pull "investment opportunity"?

>>105826824
The lesser races of man cannot even comprehend the Indian mind. Such power and yet they will work nearly for free as they care more about uplifting humanity than money.

>>105825828
This. My team constantly (and I mean, literally multiple times a day, everyday) have to stop our jeets from being stupid because they're wasting everyone's time or company resources.

Literally 20mins ago I had to tell a jeet that a printer will indeed take a few seconds to start printing, and mindlessly clicking on the Print button because "it's not working" while generating a 30 pages long printing queue, only to pick 1 copy and throw 29 pages in the trash, is actually very bad.
But explaining is pointless, they will just do it again and again, they never learn anything.

>are less demanding

This is, hilariously enough, not a good thing. It is the demand of white men that creates sophisticated tech and software. They don't settle for shit and garbage, they don't settle for non performant, buggy slop. Indians do. Oh, they're going to work twice as hard all right, and make it 5x as shitty.

>>105826824
Ah yes, the master race. They are enlightened, animalistic, retarded behavior is beneath them.

>>105827010
>"Some Hindus believe cows and everything they produce is sacred and purifying."
>"Mr Modi's government is also looking to encourage the production of toothpaste, shampoos and mosquito repellents from bovine waste."

I swear, Hinduism is some sort of cosmic joke. Somehow, somewhere, a god is watching people eat cow shit and can't stop laughing.

>>105827053
while I make fun of jeets for their massive inwarrented intrusions into my quality of life people in the west used to rely on cow shit to get by. what do you think cowboys cooked with? firewood? what wood? theres no trees for most of that area. people cooked with cow chips.

>>105827082

What he means is they have no sense of disgust. Europeans will use gross things at a distance for specific relevant use cases, not literally bathe in it.

No wonder he misses every timeline he puts out. He keeps assuming that he can get western quality engineers at third world prices by using Indians. His worldview requires this to be true, so when it turns out to be false, he has to come up with increasingly complex structures to excuse the failures.

>>105827102

He is caught between a rock and a hard place. His companies are neck deep with Indians. You can't really move on from that now, you have to double and triple down on the meme. Maybe throwing another 10,000 Indians at it will fix things.

>>105827082
We also used to collect bat guano to use in explosives but we moved past that once we found an alternative. We didn't make bat guano into a holy relic.

>work twice as hard
For the same or worse result.
>are less demanding
Cause they're from a poorer country with a lower standard of living. Basically saying that he wants you to be poor and to live in squalor.

Starting to feel like Elon should be strung up and killed.

>>105826140
>Reading about "muh russia" is funniest shit when I see it.
Then you're completely ignoring reality and how much your anal AIDS dystopia spends on destabilization campaigns online every year. It's part of their military budget, it has been extremely effective and the only ones with the complete lack of self awareness dismissing it are glavest hookers themselves.

>>105827082
>bathing shit and eating it with curry is literally the same as burning it for cooking because it is the last option
I also assume that shitting in the streets is the same as shitting in a forest.

>>105825674 (OP)
Guess he forgot they also rape and shit on the street. Funny how they always forget the negatives.

>>105825690
India is on the side of the US and Israel. The more of a shithole a country is the more racist they are (India the US and Israel are the three most racist countries right now).

If anything Russia is Irans bitch. Just look at how pathetic whiny Russia became after Israel attacked Iran and how much they insisted on not attacking Iran because of their beloved technologically superior drones.

>>105827102
What good are they going to do if that's how they get their titles?
>the article is from 10 years ago
>it is likely that many of those have already left college and earned degrees
>and those same ones are the ones who come in as "new talent"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2015/mar/20/relatives-scale-buildings-indian-students-cheat-exams-video

>Work twice as hard because 2x as stupid
>Less demanding of toiletries

GOOD MORNING SAARS!!1!!!

>>105826239
Not him but have a look at what happened to Yandex: https://archive.is/bzUdU

>>105827116
One common trick in business is to spread a mistake to others. Loaded up on Indians you now can't get rid of without them destroying your company on the way out? Make sure your competitors do the same thing so they have similar damage and can't out compete you. This isn't just with H1B incompetents, it's with DEI too. That's part of why companies with the "advantage" of DEI want everyone else legally required to also have this "advantage". At one point they even tried to get stock exchanges to remove companies from being traded if they didn't have enough DEI board members. If DEI board members are making your company fall behind, instead of fighting to get rid of them, just ensure your competitors have the same handicap.
In the US, if you refuse to hire refugees and green card holders, you can be sued for unlawful discrimination, even though those groups are non-citizens. While there isn't (yet) any laws requiring the use of H1B labor, if your company ends up with demographics that are out of line with the rest of your industry, you can be sued for that, regardless of the reason for it.

>>105826458
India is very prosperous and chiefly technological, they would welcome Mr. Musk with open arms and develop into technologicall super power of the 21st century.

>>105825674 (OP)
working twice as hard isn't necessarily an advantage for complex work

>>105825674 (OP)
They work twice as hard and yet engineers from the west have to work overtime to fix their shit, every single fucking time.

>>105825674 (OP)
Rapes your code quality
Stinks
More jewy than actual jews

depends
brahmin or dalit?

you will see the difference my friend

>>105826232
I do a lot of IT deployments for a US manufacturing company. I was in a group of guys who worked 15 hours on Saturday and there were two Indians in the group. When the topic of OT got brought up, both indians said they were forbidden from claiming overtime.

I understand the appeal of employing these people, but society needs to make a choice. Workers’ rights don’t mean anything when companies have free reign to import tens of millions of indentured servants instead of hiring domestic workers. And any company that doesn’t do this is putting itself at a competitive disadvantage. So it falls on the government (and workers) to put their boots on the necks of slavedrivers like Elon, but so far, that hasn’t happened at all.

>>105825674 (OP)
Yes, less demanding workers should be barred from markets where the workers have expectations of livable wages and hours. He makes a great case for excluding desperate immigrants from the global brown shitholes.

>>105826824
>Rajesh Cylinder

>>105826977
are you me?

>>105825709
yandex is pretty decent all things considered

>>105827221
maybe we do need a great reset

Engineering is a "work smart, not hard" industry. It's at the core of everything we do. It's why most of us picked this and not research science or medicine or law. We work smart, we like to make things quicker, more efficient, more reliable, we're focused on optimizing processes to create better outcomes.

This is why Indians suck at it. They don't have a work smart mentality, they just do things. They would rather grab a handful of dirt and carry it to the top of the mountain over and over again before inventing a wheelbarrow. They would rather shovel snow with a spoon than invent the shovel. They don't stop and think about design, innovation, standards, they just set about doing the thing, and it ironically makes everything much worse.

Every corporation inevitably learns this, usually too late. Oh yeah they're working 10 hour days, it's just that they aren't doing anything useful and the problem keeps compounding and snowballing.

Software itself became a thing because white men were tired of doing everything by hand, with paper, and endless folders and processes and clerks involved, so they automated it all. Indians would have never automated it all, they would still be doing it with paper. This is a severe, critical difference between white/European men and Indians.

>>105825674 (OP)
Create the illusion of working twice as hard.

>>105827379
>brahmin or dalit?
Pajeet.

Workers from India, = Slaves from Africa in the 1700s.

Racism all the way down. Just because their writing code instead of picking cotton doesn't change the fact that racism is the reason for this.

>>105827716
Yeah but you could at least whip them into shape if they got snippy.

>>105825674 (OP)
grok sucks. /thread

>>105826140
Ever since trump won the first time Russia has become a mainstay boogeyman for the left

>>105825674 (OP)

I read this in a southern gentleman plantation owner accent

>>105827413
take it back to r*ddit кoмpaд

>Insert mic drop emoji here

>>105827527
this post goes very hard

>>105827206
>One of the most influential investors was Vladimir Potanin
I imagined Putin wearing one of these

https://youtu.be/-_6dHIPVoTM

>>105825674 (OP)
Promote 1 of them to manager ... and you're fucked.

>>105827379
No I don't think I will. Nor will I care to differentiate. I will only see shitty people and tolerable people. And the later seems very rare.

>>105829289
At 1:27m. The Zuckerbucks AI poached girl, Chang Huiwen, is kinda cute.

They are also highly appreciated and valued for their inability to feel empathy, but being able to fake it for the sake of swindling.

They have no moral scrupels or future thought about for example mass surveilance, and they are also very obedient and servile. Of course he loves the little bugs.

>>105825684
They kick your lazy butt all day long.

>>105830505
no they dont saar

>>105827221
that explain something I heard the other day:
"girl bosses is the best thing that happen to my competitor"

>>105826140
>"if you not like state ENOUGH, it will fuck you and your family and your dog"
Don't forget the "if you like the state too much it will also fuck you because you draw too much attention", if you live in russia you are going to eventually get fucked, such is fate.

>>105825674 (OP)
>software engineers
there's no such thing, you will never be a real engineer

>>105825674 (OP)
I do this
I'm white
and all my clients are fucking bottom feeders

>>105825674 (OP)
If AI is taking jobs and "writing entire programs without humans touching a single line" then why the fuck are we even still having this conversation?

>>105825674 (OP)
Twice as hard but the output is 1/10th the quality... I don't really see the benefit.
Well, actually I do see the benefit, CEO's save so much money they can give themselves a really big bonus at the end of the year, and those middle management drones are all happy 'cause now they can brag about how they managed a team of 100 people instead of 10.
I hate this industry, I want to become a woodworker.

>>105826695
Of course, once he becomes President of the USA Indians won't need visas anymore...

>>105825674 (OP)
most Indians are incapable of critical thinking and passion about given academic subject.
All they do is memories shit they need to pass the exam and never delve further in topics simply because they find them interesting. It seems that their culture encourages this behaviour.
That's my experience from math forums.

>>105826695
and it will go about as far as hyperloop

>>105825674 (OP)
so why are you bringing back twitter shitposts from last year?
don't you have anything better to do?

>>105826588

He wants taxpayers to fund his companies and to strip workers of any rights.

That's his politics. Everything else is bullshit.

>>105834769
so the GOP with less christcuckery? still an improvement

>Posted yesterday
>People are still taking this bait
It's obvious, so why even reply to this? Are you lot that bored, or that stupid?

>>105825674 (OP)
His 3rd party may be even less successful than Jill Stein's Green party

>>105834263
does he have the BEE?

>>105825684
fucking mother bloody fuck bitch

>>105834915
The worst was the Mustang mach-e. The jeets bricked it.

>>105826695
>import millions of Indians, whom you essentially own due to your ability to revoke their visas at any time
>create new political party for a country you're not a native citizen of
>all those Indians will vote for you on the promise of being granted full citizenship (not really though lol)
Not a bad plan honestly

>>105826824
True, that's why they've created so many important tech companies. Such as Microsoft.

>>105825674 (OP)
Working 'harder' is not indicative of the quality of the results produced.
India isn't exactly known for glrevent great advancements, despite having an abundance of people. And they all sure do work hard.

>>105827379
The caste system is evil and is a big part of why India is in the state it's in. That shit needs to be kept out of the west.

>>105836234
the hardest worker i know is probably the least intelligent person i know. now that's not to make fun of him, he is a good person, but man
he'll do concreting stuff all day without slowing down and he somehow loves to push himself, but anything else is over his head, just walking muscle

>>105826808
I think Japan used to have similar policy when they were trying to grow their anime industry back in the 80s so they weren't stuck animating Flintstones for pennies.

>>105834769
this nigga gets it

>>105825674 (OP)
Counterpoint; he is Jewish.

Musk is a welfare queen. Glad his subsidies are being taken away.

>>105825674 (OP)
Of course he'd say that, nobody has ever told Elon to please do the needful

>>105826768
Musk always had Daddy's money available, and the family is known for "Blood Diamonds". A kiked practice through and through.

Politics are all about being able to read people, work a crowd, flow with popular sentiment. Musk may actually be the worst billionaire in the world at this. He's good at his thing (taking over a company and making it more efficient), but that seems to be just about it. He somehow managed to alienate both the left and the right in a span of ~3 years. His kids hate him. He relies on a mass of faceless jeet drones to sustain his enterprises and popularity with pure money incentives. He's basically the last person who should ever be trying to spearhead his own political party with how in his own world he is and non popular his schtick is. It's his abrasive autism that got him to this point anyway.

>>105826288
my fucking boat war games suffered this fate

>>105825674 (OP)
i want this retarded forigner out of my country and off my social media feeds.

>>105826824
indians cant even take a shit and wipe their ass afterwards
fucking subhuman species, disgusting pigs

>>105827053
I will never understand how indians are so obsessed with piss and shit

>>105827379
Brahmins be like
>Actually we're white!

it's even worse in scientific computing where their garbage code has to not only run but also produce physically accurate output
total nightmare

>>105837009
you weren't supposed to *notice* that.

>>105827296
>actual jews
like musk lmaooooooooo

>>105837733

>>105836409
Who isn't in USA?

>>105825674 (OP)
>work twice as hard saar
>quality of work instantly halves
Ironic for someone who spergs out over ''''''efficiency''''''

To the Pajeet reading this: you're a fucking retard

Programming is a bullshit job.

If you are at risk of losing your job to a jeet or a chatbot, you work a bullshit job.

>>105839649
what should programmers do instead, anon? A lot of programmers have put a lot of time and effort into their craft.

>>105839990
Learn to weld.

>>105840165
What happens when people of above average to well-above average start flooding the labour market, anon?

>>105840175
Then they will learn to build.

>>105825674 (OP)
They don't work twice as hard. They scam and cheat and lie 10x as much though, maybe that's what he means by work

>>105840345
Sounds like we're just moving the problem, anon

>>105830505
I don't think they're tall enough to do that effectively

>>105825674 (OP)
You're paying 50% for 200% of the labor to produce 0% usable goods.

Within 5 years both SpaceX and Tesla will have Indian CEOs.

>>105825674 (OP)
Inshallah, the ketamine addled rocket man will have medieval tortures inflicted upon him

>>105837038
Let's not talk about he got btfo'd in the autonomous vehicle space by Waymo, and Tesla would instantly be btfo'd if Chink EVs weren't banned.

>>105840175
You get Japan where you're stuck doing entry level work until you're 40, waiting for some cocksucker octogenarian to retire.

>>105825674 (OP)
First, no they don't, they're scammers who will shit out hundreds of lines that do what a white dude would do in 20 tops.
Second, they are less demanding because they know the rules of the game, if they say something about your abuse, they're on a plane next day to their country.
And third, we all fucking know why you shill indians so much, they work for the minimum wage you can give them and you can force them to work 16 hours a day or else they go back to where they came from.
These giga millionaires can try to deceive us whatever they want, but we all know these are modern day, legal slaves, simple as.

>>105827527
/thread