Thread 105828380

Stop shitting up my home directory.

~/.themes
~/.icons
~/.fonts


They belong in /usr/share/

Please respect the user and there will be no problem.

use case for a clean home directory?

>>105828380 (OP)
Well, if it was your home directory, wouldn't you be in charge of it?

>>105828380 (OP)
These guys should be using $XDG_CONFIG_HOME by now

>>105828380 (OP)
I have capitulated long ago and use ~/personal as the root of my personal shit.

>>105828380 (OP)
>>105828408
I wonder if it's possible to fix this with mount namespaces.

>>105828380 (OP)
>linux
deprecated

>>105828380 (OP)
4chan_op_add_attachment($this->thread, "tranime.jpg");
stop shitting up my board

>>105828380 (OP)
>config files not in .config
this make me seethe so god damn much

>>105828380 (OP)
Like

>>105828380 (OP)
Minecraft is responsible for this. That fat retard was the first major dev to treat %appdata% as a fucking install directory

Windows forced devs to start scattering their files around to avoid dealing with permissions bullshit too

Yes you are talking about linux, a tiny minority of users so paradigms are driven by movements in real operating systems like this

>>105828408
>use XDG variable in my code
>user doesn't have them initialized
>have to spend all day reading arguments from Unix users about what should go where just to figure out what path to fallback to
not happy

>>105828380 (OP)
move them yourself
its linux, retard. you have full control, if you don't like default behavior change it.

if you don't know how to compile stuff from source go learn

i store that stuff in /etc/appearance because i'm a troglodyte.

>>105828389
lamest me this board had ever produced
worse than le install gentoo

>>105828380 (OP)
are you retarded? i like this setup because i do a separate partition, sometimes even a different hard drive for my home folder

>>105828380 (OP)
nix solves this problem

>>105830091
> lamest me this

SAAAAARRRRRRRRR

>>105830466
it's over for me
sir... please... redeem...

Okay this is an interesting topic. Isn't the old way that every application creates a ~/.application_name directory? Inside are configs, and other data related to this one application. Now the modern way is for every application to put configs in ~/.config and other application data into ~/.local/share.

Can someone explain this to me? Wouldn't it be smarter to keep files from one application in one directory, instead of all configs in one directory and all other application data in another? Because I sometimes want to get rid of all the data one specific application created, e.g. when uninstalling an application. In the modern way, I have to search multiple places to get rid of this. What's the advantage of this design? The only advantage I see is, that it's easier to delete all configs of every program, but keep the application data, but who the fuck would every do this?

>>105830646
It makes it easier to do stuff like mounting ~/.local/share on a different drive since share directories can often take up a lot of space

>>105830710
good point actually

>>105829229
I have never seen someone more clearly admit that they have too much time on their hands.

>>105828380 (OP)
>Documents

>>105830646
>Isn't the old way that every application creates a ~/.application_name directory?

No the old way is that programs put their various stuff in all the various directories meant for said stuff, like /usr/bin, /usr/lib, /usr/include, /usr/share, etc. That's why those directories are there.

>>105831483
Actually first it was /bin, /lib, etc, then they put it all in /usr, then it all went to /usr/local, then moved into /home/username, now shit just shits wherever.

>>105829195
>$XDG_CONFIG_HOME
If that fails
>$HOME/.config/
If that fails
>/tmp/, shit out a million racial epithets in stderr
Case closed, glad to be of help

>>105828380 (OP)
Just use NixOS and everything is in /nix/store and your dotfiles can be handled via home manager

>>105828657
for me it's ~/files

>>105828408
>Sorrry, supporting yet another arbitrary standard for little gain is not something we plan to do. Closing.
Imagine writing software such that the location of a file cannot be trivially changed.

>>105833191
>a directory for files
>in a FILEsystem tree
Retard alert. I bet if you were programming, you'd be naming variables as data.

>>105829195
that is a user problem, they should be autistic enough to fix that by themselves anyways

>>105834899
this is where the persistent files go.
The rest of the directory is used for quick access symlinks and temporaries.

>>105828380 (OP)
>~/.
they're hidden, stop obbessing over insignifcant details and do actual work

I didn't know you were supposed to put your bins in ~/.local/bin and it's supposed to be in the default path (it's not)

>>105828380 (OP)
Use case for XDG Base Specification?

>>105833088
Additionally, you can have tmpfs as / so that any random shitty files that are created are removed if you reboot.

I never understood this mindset of spreading one application across many different directories. Please put everything in one directory. I don't care about conventions, I want to be able to rmdir -f a directory to completely remove something.

>>105838932
or rm -rf
whatever, I don't spend time in linux

>>105828380 (OP)
Happens in Windows too, fking hell
>.cache
>.conda
>.config

use qubes and flatpaks

>>105833088
>>105838730
this is what i do, it's extremely enlightening and whenever i want to "clean up" my system i just reboot

>>105828408
>XDG
sorry, I use wayland, not X, so I don't have X* variables or packages

>>105829193
>Windows forced devs to start scattering their files around to avoid dealing with permissions bullshit too
By now windows should have gotten a "C:\Users\Anon\Program Files\" directory to avoid that bullshit
I wonder why microsoft haven't added it yet

>>105831178
>game puts save and config files in My Documents
bitch those are MY DOCUMENTS
not your scratchpad

>>105828380 (OP)
You have to start containerizing everything like you're using Fedora Silverblue or coreos and just have "home" be some podman volume. It's the only way to be sure sadly.

>>105832536
I default to /etc as the ultimate fallback, desu.

my order on GNU + Leenucks:

$CONFIGURATION_DIRECTORY <- set by systemd when using
[Service]
ConfigurationDirectory=appname


$XDG_CONFIG_HOME <- set by most PAM/DM's in 2025
$HOME/.config <- lol, lmao
/etc/appname <- basically same shit systemd would create

for windows, I do
%APPNAME_HOME%
%AppData% <- should be set, no reason to fallback on %UserProfile%\AppData\App imo.
C:\ProgramData\AppName