Thread 105831669

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>What distro should I choose?
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>What are some cool programs?
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Previous thread: >>105809531

chsh -s /bin/zsh

Bash is a nigger shell.

What os do i use if I want to never worry about anything breaking for any reason? (please do not say mint)

Alright, so I'm fucking done with FreeBSD. The documentation is shit. The packages are outdated, have bad notes, and I'm pissed off.

The only reason why I preferred FreeBSD was jails. How do I replace jails on a new server OS? Is there a worthy equivalent?

>>105831713
>(please do not say mint)
LMDE

>>105831713
Things break when you change them. Choose an OS that you don't need to change or force yourself to not change anything. The most popular distros will have the best out-of-the-box experience leaving you with nothing to change. If you are focused on work then use POP OS or Fedora, if you are gay use Ubuntu, if you want gaming use Bazzite.

>>105831713
arch

>>105831791
This is sarcasm btw.

>>105831714
Use containers, CGroups / Linux namespaces are better than BSD jails anyway. Jails on BSD are over-hyped. It's just a better chroot but a shittier container.

>>105831865
Arch breaks if you don't upgrade in like a month. What kind of stupid recommendation is that? Oh and what was the grub problem a few months back when it bricked people's systems because of a broken package update?

>>105831882
no it does not, stop spreading fud

>>105831882
>grub problem
lts kernel chads didn't have that issue, cope more

>>105831882
you don't need to install arch to watch grub shit itself for no reason

>video running without GPU decoding
1% CPU usage 7% GPU usage
>video running with GPU decoding
0% CPU usage 5% GPU usage

huh

>>105831713
Linux Mint.

>>105832173
I use mint now. I updated my os and the sound stopped working. This is clearly not an os free of issues

>>105831882
>Arch breaks if you don't upgrade in like a month
No, I've updated machines that I haven't touched in years and it still works

>>105831981
37.5% more efficient.

>>105832256
Did it actually break or did you change something like install an Nvidia driver?

>>105832256
you don't need sound

>>105831669 (OP)
>that pic
Kek, reminds me of this post >>105811462

I'm thinking about messing with aliases to automatically update the programs i got from flathub when doing a full system update with my package manager. Is this stupid?
I'm trying to not use the Plasma's Discover and try the CLI more but i'm not sure if i should be messing with this kind of stuff.

>>105831828
Thanks Amon, I’ll check that out

>>105831713
Manjaro

I started using GIMP as an alternative to Paint.NET and fooyin with EasyEffects EQ/Pipewire as an alternative to foobar2k and it made me think why am I doing this to myself. I spent all of this time (weeks) learning a new OS and experimenting with different programs that fit my desire/usecase just to end up with a bunch of software that *kind-of* produces the same end product but is significantly more janky for no real reason other than some vague notion of "privacy".

I think I'll go back to windows. I do like certain things the way linux does it like package management (though from what I've read the BSDs probably do this better), and the file system structure does make a bit of sense once you understand it but it's not really any better or worse than windows. Some things are straight worse in my opinion, like not using file extensions. The terminal actually is really nice for certain things once you get used to it, but the anti-gui sentiment is kind of cringe.

I'll probably just keep it on my second drive as a hobby or something but I do miss just *using* my computer instead of fucking around with it.

>I'm so inbred and dysgenic I want to fuck my mother AND my brother
>I spend hours on a dead site to ruin your internet experience and exploit your browser

>Everything is reading the MFT of the NTFS file system to build its database. This is a rather cheap operation, because only a single file must be accessed and parsed. Linux file system (ext4, xfs, btrfs, ...) don't have anything comparable to a MFT, so FSearch has to traverse the whole file system tree to build its database; this is an expensive operation
How come NTFS mogs all Linux filesystems?

>>105834380
Linux filesystem's have their own indexes built into them so walking the tree is a fast operation. The performance of the find utility demonstrates that, you can use something like mlocate to build an index if you really want but find performance is already crazy good.

>>105834054
Arch, on steam deck... cos that's what it ships with

>>105834380
Most Linux users would immediately sperg out if you tell them your search program bypasses filesystem permissions.

>>105811462
now do "sudo", and even better "sudo su -"
I hate pozzshell

>>105831698
That's just bash with non retarded readline

Ryzen 5 5500
RX 6600
16Gb RAM
Freesync monitor

What choose?

>>105831713
UBlue

ran yay
got this
I don't even have an nvidia card

>>105831669 (OP)
PowerShell is faster than Bash and objectively a superior scripting language.

>>105837479
And other hilarious jokes you can tell before crying yourself to sleep.

>>105837457
remove linux-firmware and install the appropriate linux-firmware-* for your system. they split the package recently

>>105837517
You will never be a woman

>>105837523
Thank you. I ended up just installing the generic command per this post.

>>105837528
Good. Imagine wanting to be a woman.

>>105837479
this
as much as i loathe microjeet powershell is quite literally just better

>>105832549
>Is this stupid?
No.
sudo pacman -Syyu && flatpak update -y

>All universalblue Distros just added Bazaar as new visual Store for flatpaks
>https://github.com/kolunmi/bazaar
>just another Gnome app even on all KDE based Distros
ok guys, cool cohesive desigh choices being made here lol. LMAO EVEN

I'm thinking about moving to Linux. Does MouseInjector work? Through Wine or Lutris or something, that is. I imagine it'd inherently have issues with Wayland from what I know about its sandboxing. MouseInjector also needs Duckstation v0.1-5943, Windows version: https://github.com/duckstation/old-releases/releases/tag/v0.1-5943

>>105832256
sound is bloat

How are the 9070 xt drivers on Ubuntu or Mint?
Currently using the 6400 with no issues and thinking about upgrading.

>>105838892
yeah, time to use a real distro already

Titlebars usually have minimize/expand/close. But why not an audio slider or enable/disable button? Is there some way I can add an audio button to my windows?

Sometimes I want to quickly mute a game but the only way is to open up my tray, open audio mixer, and scroll down a list of programs. And sometimes it shows up twice for some reason and only one of them controls the real audio. I just think my way would be much neater.

I'm using Linux Mint with PulseAudio.

>>105839565
cool idea, but I'd rather have a shortcut than a button.

>>105839614
>I'd rather have a shortcut than a button
what do you mean by shortcut

>>105839849
combination of keys to press

How come there are a lot of Indians contributing to FOSS github projects?

Now that all the Chuck's have turned into Sneed's, can we all agree that ebussy has done more good than harm to the wider Linux community and this very board?

>>105840818
Absolutely not.

Is it safe to use the snapstore? I want to download a program called Antstream to play retro games on it. They also have website version of but it's working subpar on my computer because there's a problem with my graphics drivers even though they used to work fine before and now the only version that does kind of work is called x11-g05 even though my graphics card is for version g06 and at this point it would be easier to just download the program than fix my drivers.

>>105840904
Use case for your negative reply?

>>105841105
Use case for the oxygen you waste?

>>105841117
If it's wasteful, why are you encouraging it?

Linux bros...
Is it finally our year?

>>105841156
Nope

>>105841189
Oh okay

>>105841202
Good indie devs already like us, shitty indie devs why would you care about them, other devs will continue to pretend we don't exist.

>>105841223
Huh? The point was the 10%, if 10% of people that buy games are Linux gamers then that's huge. No idea if it's an anomaly for this game or if somehow Linux gamers are overrepresented when it comes to wishlisting, but it's a big number.

I don't think there are any devs that have something against Linux in particular, it's purely a cost/benefit ratio. If Linux generates enough money to be worth catering to then they will.

If it weren't for how dubious it is to build powershell from source, I'd probably be using it. It's better than bash at basically everything.

>>105841254
>if 10% of people that buy games are Linux gamers
Yeah, that's not the case. Since linux games are still rare, the few that come out are more likely to get those linux gamers who want the native linux games. Linux is far from 10% on the steam surveys.

If it's out of cost/benefit, ignorance or whatever, some devs won't do shit for linux gaming. And some even actively prevent it.

>>105841296
>better than bash at basically everything.
being posix compatible? doubt.

>>105841299
>the few that come out are more likely to get those linux gamers who want the native linux games
So you're suggesting that the reason the wishlisting rate for Linux is so high is because the promise of a native Linux port? I suppose that could be the case but I'm sceptical.
>Linux is far from 10% on the steam surveys
Yeah but the surveys aren't perfect, Linux gamers tend to be more privacy orientated so they might be less willing to send data to Valve and they could be overrepresented when it comes to buying games. You don't have to be 10% of the user base to account for 10% of sales.

It's ofc highly unlikely that Linux gamers are 10% of sales as that would be industry changing stats, but the number is interesting nonetheless.

>>105841308
>poosix
Irrelevant.

My grub menu doesn't show up for some reason. The grub config file has the default GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 and I made sure that there is no GRUB_FORCE_HIDDEN_MENU=true
and in my bios it is set to boot to grub first but it just doesn't show up.
You guys have any suggestions to solve it?

>>105841367
>So you're suggesting that the reason the wishlisting rate for Linux is so high is because the promise of a native Linux port?
Yes, that has been the case especially before proton was a thing. Some small indie devs have praised their linux customer base as well back then, but the big devs have either continued to ignore or even built back their linux support.

>>105841299
>>105841421
>And some even actively prevent it.
I forgot to address this before.

Has this ever happened for a non-multiplayer game? I've never heard of any company being hostile to running singleplayer games through Linux/Proton. Only multiplayer games due to cheating/kernel anti-cheat.

>>105841447
>anti-cheat.
that's what I was referring to.

>>105831916
I got tired of grubs bs and moved to efibootmgr

I used chatgpt for the first time to troubleshoot a weird issue and got it resolved quickly without endlessly searching forums. Is this good or bad for linux?

>>105841505
>that's what I was referring to.
Which is part of the cost/benefit calculation. Presumably there were not enough Linux gamers to justify spending resources/money to counter Linux cheaters so it was cheaper just to ban them.

Windows is completely unfit for purpose at this point. I'm trying to develop a basic containerized application and all the garbage security software IT loaded on the machine means I spend more time fighting with my environment than I do developing, and they won't approve remote dev tools to reduce the friction.

>not having to update the entire folder when you delete/move a file in a folder sorted by video duration/length
So this is the power of Loonix?

It's joever

>>105841805
If you think the desktop is unfit, try fucking with windows server... I do not understand how that's a "product" still..... "Unfit for purpose" doesn't even do it justice...

>>105831713
Fedora KDE with rpm fusion. best desktop and best distro (for non-programmers). mint's cinnamon desktop looks outdated

>>105831669 (OP)
Bash is cancer too for what is worth, the world should've moved on to better languages, a better designed shell that doesn't concern itself with strict POSIX compliance (write fucking C if you really need this) but the industry is too stupid. Fucking Ruby and Perl were what they genuinely proposed for the best part of a decade.

>>105845460
>strict POSIX compliance
>Bash
very funny

So, wow. It's been a long time since i did this but i decided to reset my phone and install Termux from scratch, and using a Proof instead of their built-in packages. It's so lean now. I could even run brew on this if i wanted to, somehow. Not all packages seem to work, but from useless to running Deno and a basic Clojure REPL is huge progress.
>>105841805
At this point, it's going to be easier setting up a dev environment using a tinker tranny app on a fucking phone than figuring out what caused the corporate AV to turn on its scanning again.

>>105845472
Bash can, doesn't mean that does it by default. There's not even much of a point on it anymore, everyone moved on to (d)ash when that mattered.

>>105841296
What about nushell or osh/ysh?

Please, enlighten this retard and explain the following: why do some apps fail to follow the standard window top bar scheme, like Gajim in this example? Flatpak Librewolf also had no minimize and enlarge buttons by default, but this could be fixed manually. Some flatpak apps have a distinct Gnome'ish appearance, but still have the minimize/enlarge buttons.

So if I want to make use of VRR do I need to swtich from Budgie to another DE that has wayland?

>>105845496
it's called bashisms for a reason

>>105831713
MacOS sequoia (turn off auto update)

>>105845596
Just use hyprland like anyone normal.

>>105845669
I was actually thinking about switching to KDE, I've tried and didn't really like Hyprland by itself.

>>105845680
Have you tried hyprdots? It's customized to an absurd degree. Though you need to pick the best keybinds for you to make the most out of a tiling WM.

What distro will you use KDE on? To be honest, once you've got a distro with a package manager you like, just stick with that for a while until you find something you have issue with.

Check here, you might like these flavors.

https://garudalinux.org/editions

>>105845703
What version of Plasma does Garuda use?

>>105845703
I was thinking I'd just fresh install my current distro with KDE Plasma, which is Fedora. I just think this is the best trade off for cutting edge and stability for a gaming machine.

>>105845703
What's the point of using Garuda over Manjaro?

>>105845711
Not sure, I don't use either of them I just know they put a lot of work in to ricing their flavors so he might like to copy some of their dotfiles.

>>105845712
Yeah give it a shot. I don't use KDE because it's overwhelming. There's just menus within menus, like 3 software center launchers if I'm not mistaken. It's too much, at least GNOME's customization window is simple and lets you get on with it.

>>105845729
see >>105845761
I don't know if Manjaro comes with "KDE but riced as fuck" edition. You can take good configs from other distros and use them on your own, it's neat.

>>105845729
Well, it at least isn't Manjaro

>>105845779
It literally is, though. It's just Manjaro with some ricing

>>105845790
Oh fuck, there is more than 1 Manjaro?

Last time I tried Garuda (hyprland) it only supported btrfs.

>>105841418
Is your partition encrypted? Need to set cryptodisk=y. Is your partition mounted in fstab?

GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="Arch"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="loglevel=3 quiet"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="cryptdevice=UUID=EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE:root rootfstype=ext4"

GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="part_gpt part_msdos" (can delete the unused one here)
GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y
GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu

GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true
#GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=y
#GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false

>>105845660
POSIX allows a shell to have extensions and still be compliant.

>be me
>nvidia gpu and intel igpu hybrid laptop
>install arch
>choose kde plasma 6
>wayland by default no x11
>desktop is a buggy mess, getting constant log out confirmation(is it telling me something?)
>ok maybe it doesn't like my intel gpu to render session and wants nvidia
>make nvidia primary render gpu
>can't even log in
>"cba dealing with this" ... format and start over
>choose gnome
>everything works fine

Chat gpt said it was because kwin compistor hates nvidia? wut? SDDM is the literal Gaming DE, isn't it? This is a gaming computer. I can't be the only one who will make this mistake. I Get basically booted from an entire ecosystem because of my GPU? Kinda bummed i was looking forward to seeing how theming was with Qt applications...

Right now I'm subcontiously only installing GTK apps out of protest, but i'm so tired of GTK and weird ass gnome.. it's so painfully boring but it all just weks... damn does it just werk...

>>105845982
Nice try footfag, but the problem there is nvidia and wayland, not KDE.

>>105845982
Nvidia on Arch has been solved for a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW2XGMAu6VE

>>105845913
POZZICS

Retard here, I just got a new computer and want to put linux on it. I was thinking about openSUSE since that's the OS we "learned" in school years ago (I don't remember doing more than installing it on a VM).
Is that a good idea or should I use Mint?

>>105831669 (OP)
Thought I might ask here because sqt is dead. Firefox sanitizes my filenames when I download something. It replaces % with _ basically breaking any file with uri encoded strings embedded in the filename. This behavior in particular makes saving and organizing soundposts a pain in the ass. What are my alternatives?
>inb4 change browser

>>105847239
try pasting the links into wget
might not work idk

>>105847452
looks like it's a known problem https://support.mozilla.org/bm/questions/1439267 but I don't even use windows so I don't know why it's affecting me too

>>105831669 (OP)
But powershell is better than bash

>>105847530
tbqh, both are easily done by llms now with great success, so as a skill both are now becoming irrelevant besides understanding of basics on good enough level just to compose proper prompts

>>105847598
Working with data/objects instead of just text is pretty awesome and allows you to do things like other programming languages. Nushell buuuut it doesn't seem to be popular.
There's also the support for working .Net objects from C# and such

so now that steam/proton/wine/whatever runs gaymez very similarly or in some cases even better than windows, does that mean GNU+Linux+systemd is now.. an ultimate gayman operating system?.. how the hell did this happen?

What's the plan now that there's two concurrent /generals? I reckon whoever hits bump limit first has the right to bake, and the other thread will migrate to that one upon reaching their own bump limit.

>>105847204
From what I hear openSUSE package manager is slow but the people who use it love it. Mint has apt and is highly recommended too. Why not give both a try?

>>105847715
I think the fag who keeps posting the nigger meme shouldn't be making any threads at all.

>>105848004
I guess I could. I'll start with openSUSE, thanks.

Closing multiple tabs (close to the right/left or close others) in firefox makes the browser freeze for a good 2-3 seconds. I'm on kubuntu with a decent pc. This doesn't happen on windows. Is it because of snap? If I move to .deb will this help?

>>105845510
And all 10 of their users? They probably are good, but powershell has users. I'm not saying powershell isn't shit, it's just less shit than bash.

>>105847697
If only i could make RDR2 start in DX12 mode... it is the biggest problem right now. (vulkan version has a vram leak that makes the game unplayable)

>>105847697
Some popular slop doesn't run on linux due to kernel AC, there's still a long way to go. Even Valve's linux versions of their games don't run amazingly. Their money printing machine Slop-Strike 2 runs a good 15-20% worse on linux (not that it runs well on windows either, but that's not the point).

>>105848490
go suse kde - it is their best experience. during install process you can also uncheck installation of extra stuff you might not need (office, graphics, media) and just get plain minimal kde desktop.
suse is also heavily security-focused, so you will have a bunch of various opsec tools installed for os and user administration.
yast and zypper are not bad or scary

>>105847697
based trannies are more powerful than windows jeets.
bonus that windows' userland design means making a linker that can shim over superior GNU/Linux userland is doable at all.

>>105848590
>start in DX12 mode
vkd3d is a thing. does it not work for you?
>>105848628
>Some popular slop doesn't run on linux due to kernel AC
it's a feature, not a bug.

>>105848866
>vkd3d is a thing. does it not work for you?
Nah it just refuses to launch. Apparently the same for everyone. Disabling resizable bar supposedly fixes the vulkan version but disabling it in BIOS does not actually disable it for me..

>>105848628
>Some popular slop doesn't run on linux due to kernel AC
We are incredibly lucky none of those games are actually good. Hopefully increasing adoption of Linux will compel publishers to cease implementing rootkits in their online games.

>>105849471
If the normies can't play their latest rootkit AC game on linux, they won't even bother to try it.

>>105831669 (OP)
How difficult is it to research and configure a distro that is fully compatible with my current gaming laptop I misuse as a work/study/entertainment machine (Asus rog strix g513qm)?
Ideally, I'd like the distro to be as far removed to DEI and CoC as possible while it works for it out of the box or requires some hindsight.
I sometimes do play games, but mostly use it to code, cram and vain attempts at a daily study routine that are just good enough to pass exams/certs.
Man, I really wish I had more of an ability to understand what works for me and what not.
Could have been more effective, efficient and had more time to actually chill or sleep longer.

>>105831713
Fedora Atomic / Ublue

>>105845541
Server vs client side decorations. GNOME apps are usually CSD so they look out of place.

Does anyone have any idea why LACT won't do 0 RPM on my RDNA2 card if I set a manual curve? It's supposed to be 0 RPM at these temps but the fan is spinning. The program even registers the 0% but it's still spinning at 555 RPM. If I set it to automatic then the fans actually stop and 0 RPM works.

I have some old DVDs I would like to remux, ideally no transcoding if possible, I am on Fedora 42, I see both dvd::rip and K9copy are marked as obsolete, should I install these anyway or is there a non-obsolete alternative
https://fedora.pkgs.org/42/rpmfusion-free-aarch64/rpmfusion-free-obsolete-packages-38-2.fc41.noarch.rpm.html

>>105851140
I don't know what's up to date and what isn't, but I use dvdbackup for ripping dvds.

I typically use a combination of dvdbackup, cat and ffmpeg for remuxing but it can be hit or miss.

>>105851199
I was able to backup the DVD with 'dvdbackup -i /dev/sr0 -M -p` but, I've never remuxed before, let alone used cat for video, I do understand ffmpeg a bit, can you show me an example of what you would type given pic related

Which one of you did this? xD

>>105831669 (OP)
This is more of a rant but I recently tried KDE Plasma after years of using other DE/WM and I didn't like it. I had always seen anons claim Plasma was THE BEST desktop environment out there, but didn't really give it a chance until now.
>UI/UX
My biggest gripe would be the System settings, it feels like they put everything in the wrong place for shits and giggles. Why are the system sounds in "Colors and themes"?? in fact, the actual settings for the system sounds are in a complete separate place. On Cinnamon you go to System settings > Sounds and there you go, everything is there. Then I wanted to get rid of those useless buttons on the title bars (pin windows, help), so I thought the settings were in the "Windows" section, but no; once again, they're located under Colors and themes > Decorations and then in a random hamburger menu at the top right corner of the UI, just what the fuck?
>Bloat
I know this is somewhat of a buzzword nowadays but I don't understand why installing something as simple as a Terminal emulator requires me to also install the components for a digital wallet, email, vlc and who knows what else. The system itself also takes about an extra GB of Ram for me (compared to Cinnamon or XFCE), which I know for many isn't a lot, but it's not like I'm getting more useful features in return.
>Packages
I don't know if this is an Arch-only issue, but why the fuck do I have to install things like kscreen, plasma-nm or plasma-pa to get functionality which should be installed along with the system by default??
>Misc
Minor issues would be the calendar being extremely big for some reason, the tiling behaviour, and sddm looking ugly by default. Plasma has some really good things overall, but I ended up coming back to Cinnamon. Thanks for reading my blog.

>>105847697
Graphics wise WineD3D and DXVK are great... but if a game makes extensive use of Direct Sound there will be problems.

>>105851630
>System settings
Some of the devs pretty much said that different users expect things to be in different places and that the best option is to rely on the search bar to find what you're looking for.
>The system itself also takes about an extra GB of Ram for me (compared to Cinnamon or XFCE)
Xfce is featureless compared to KDE. The main selling point of Xfce is that it can run on devices with 500MB RAM. So it's not surprising at all.
As for Cinnamon, this entirely depends on how your distro sets things up. KDE Plasma is often lighter than Cinnamon and it's usable on devices with 2-4 GB RAM.
If you're installing it manually then you're expected to know how to configure and optimize the DE to match your preferences. It makes no sense for defaults to disable features just for the sake of saving half a GB of RAM when most people aren't minimalists.
>why installing something as simple as a Terminal emulator requires me to also install the components for a digital wallet, email, vlc and who knows what else
I assume they're optional dependencies and your package manager is shit.

>>105831669 (OP)
foobar2000 is broken, the AUR package shows a "unknown exception" error, google only shows the snap package not straight from wine. it only plays files drag and dropped from a local drive or through foobars media viewer. deadbeef is ass and wont play remote files anyway

>>105831882
I didn't have any grub problem what?

>>105851454
nevermind, this wasn't my issue at all,
>libdvdcss is required to read encrypted DVDs
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dvdbackup

it is working now

>>105852033
you're trying to pass a unix path instead of a windows path to it

>>105851949
I mean, I guess I understand why someone would think it's normal for the system sounds to be at the Themes section, since you get to choose between the Freedesktop one and the one KDE uses (I forgot its name). But it's not like "Sound themes" are common enough to deserve its own sub-section in this part of the settings (compared to Icon themes or GTK/QT Themes), so personally I think it makes way more sense to have everything sound-related in the Sound section of the settings. Having to rely on the search function feels more like a bandaid on top of this mess.
>Xfce is featureless compared to KDE
I mean yeah, but when it comes to other DE or WM, you can feel the "upgrade" when going from something as minimalist as Openbox or i3 to Cinnamon or Gnome. For me, however, this wasn't as obvious when going from Cinnamon to Plasma. Maybe there's some good stuff if you dwelve into the settings, but Cinnamon is at a sweet spot for me, not so simple as XFCE or MATE, but not complex either.
>your package manager is shit
I mean, maybe? when I try to install xfce4-terminal, I also have to install libxfce4ui, libxfce4util and xfconf, that's it. When installing a KDE program however I end up installing half the KDE software suite. Not sure how this works in other distros, but this was my experience with Arch. I'm not saying KDE is bad, and I do get the appeal, but it's not my thing.

>>105852733
If you had matching monitors that wouldn't be an issue. It's because you have more than one with different resolution and/or refresh rate. It's a hardware limitation, it will never be fixed.

Do I have to mount my nas on /mnt/ in order for programs to be able to access my files?

>>105852033
someone asked about this before and i found a solution for that
>>105322145
>>105322452

>>105853850
You can mount it anywhere you want. /mnt is just a generic user controlled directory. Nothing lays claim to it.

>>105853034
>Having to rely on the search function feels more like a bandaid on top of this mess.
It's really not. Younger millennials and newer generations vastly prefer using search bars no matter how good the overall UI is. Things "being out of place" in the UI is not only subjective, but basically a non-issue affecting only inefficient boomers.
>When installing a KDE program however I end up installing half the KDE software suite
Well it makes sense. It's supposed to be a well integrated, feature-rich DE.

>>105855554
>Well it makes sense
it doesn't make sense to pull in dependencies you don't really need just because they are part of the same dev teams DE.

>>105855609
>dependencies you don't really need
If they're optional dependencies then your package manager shouldn't have pulled them automatically.

>>105855627
they're not optional, but why would a pdf viewer need shit like a password manager linked into it?

>>105831669 (OP)
sudo snap install powershell --channel=lts/stable --classic

Audio doesn't work after installing linux on my netbook.

>>105855721
death sentence

>>105855704
Because it can (cryptographically) sign pdf files. And it can use PAM to do so.

>>105831714
>replace jails
Embrace Linux containers
https://documentation.ubuntu.com/lxd/latest/getting_started/

>>105853441
I had maxed out vram clocks when I only had one 144hz 1080p monitor. I did manage to fix it by creating a custom resolution and setting it to 142hz.

My current dual monitors have the same refresh rate but they're 1440p and 1080p. I tried setting them to the same refresh rate and resolution but that didn't work either. The only thing that worked was 120hz on my 1440p and 60hz on my 1080p. 120hz on both didn't work.

>>105831882
>the grub problem
They memoryholed it. The amount of damage control at that time was astonishing even by Arch standards.

>>105852077
Then you either...
- weren't using arch
- weren't using arch with grub
- weren't keeping your sistem up to date
Almost every Arch user who updated had that issue, they pushed an unreleased grub snapshot to all users and broke their systems.

>>105856619
Take your meds.

>>105855728
Such is Life on Loonix

>>105856673
Tell me how to fix it.

>>105856619
Just use your live usb and install a working grub version. Takes 5 minutes max

>>105831713
Windows 11

>>105831882
Then use Ubuntu. I'm using 22.04 and it just werks niggers

>>105856820
Ubuntu breaks if you upgrade between major versions.

>>105831713
Anything based on Fedora Atomic. It's literally the only update system which works.

>>105856715
No

>>105856981
Why not?

>>105857009
Because it can't be fixed

>>105856715
Linux doesn't support audio. You're supposed to use it mute.

>>105856715
what linux?
what netbook?
define "doesn't work"

Use case for having ears?

>>105857170
>what linux?
Linux Mint Xfce
>what netbook?
Bangho Fit I1-130
>define "doesn't work"
Sound won't come out of the device

>>105856619
>weren't keeping your system up to date
I mean, it's probably that, I update my system like once a week, so might have missed that.

>>105857285
>Sound won't come out of the device
so it shows up, it's not muted, and appears to work, there's just no sound coming out?

>>105858593
>there's just no sound coming out?
Indeed

>>105857130
>Linux doesn't support audio.
What is ALSA then?

>>105837067
Or you can be a real man and use 'doas' instead

https://man.openbsd.org/doas

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Doas

>>105858701
>What is ALSA then?
dogshit?

>>105858722
OK boomer.

>>105858702
I remember using doas in alpine linux and I installed sudo because it had /etc/sudoers to configure. Then I added my user to the sudoers file and uninstalled doas and then I was fucked because I couldn't apply doas privileges or sudo privileges and had to reinstall. Fun times.

Moral of the story, stop using gay software and stick to sudo.

>>105858702
Why would you want to use "sudo" or "doas" at all when you can just "su" to root?

>>105858819
you reinstalled instead of using 'su'?

>>105831669 (OP)
Friendly reminder to nuke Redmond and kill every windows user.

>>105858833
I can't remember, but I probably didn't know about that. To me su just means login to root using sudo, so it wouldn't have made any difference.

>>105858968
"su" is switch user, which is the normal way to elevate yourself in linux, without any arguments it will ask for the root password and give you a root shell
sudo exists to expand on su by adding convenient single-command usage along with a more granular permissions system. it's an entirely optional program. it'd be like reinstalling because you forgot to install "nano" when vi is available

>>105857285
Are you using pipewire or pulse audio?

systemctl --user enable pipewire
systemctl --user enable pipewire-pulse
systemctl --user enable wireplumber
systemctl --user start pipewire.service
systemctl --user start wireplumber.service
systemctl --user start pipewire-pulse.service


Try your sound after this, maybe restart and see.

>>105859022
Yeah so I'd log in as root, and I'd need to do something that requires elevated permissions and I'd type my doas password and it would tell me that doas is not installed. So then I'd type my sudoers password and it would tell me that my user wasn't in the wheel/sudo group and that permission was denied.

>>105859054
>Yeah so I'd log in as root, and I'd need to do something that requires elevated permissions
you're logged in as root, there's no elevating from there

>>105841082
>Is it safe to use the snapstore?
Only if you use a condom.

This is legit thread?

>>105847697
It depends on some games.
For example, Hoyo slop works well on Lutris.
But ever since the 3.4 update, the game crashes if you open the Event menu all of that because of the animation that plays to shill the Fate collab. Basically it’s gonna freeze, load and then Unity shits itself.
Again I know I know, it’s gacha slop but still worth mentioning.
The one thing that has been good is finally getting sound when streaming on trooncord for my friend without needing a hack solution.

Any reason Arch only has the base SDL3 package in pacman, and not all the others like SDL3_image, SDL3_ttf, SDL3_mixer, and so on?

>>105855554
Actually I do prefer using a "Search bar" (I use Rofi or dmenu for many things), I just feel like the entire System Settings interface should be redone so having to use the search functionality is optional, rather than necessary when looking for an specific option. I never had this issue in other desktop environments.
>>105859853
>The one thing that has been good is finally getting sound when streaming on trooncord for my friend without needing a hack solution.
Wayland? I remember reading complains about sound not working properly when streaming under gayland, or maybe it was just trooncord being shit on Linux. I use X11, but about a year ago I encountered the same issue, ended up using a 3rd party client that somehow didn't have this problem.

alias chad='man'

>>105831713
Anything immutable I guess

>>105855768
$you = Get-Anon | Where-Object Reply -eq 'death sentence'
Remove-Anon -InputObject $you -Force

>>105860222
man type
man man
man find
man who
man ed
man talk
man nice
man date
man test
man touch
man yes
man head
man more
man strip
man tail
man join
man paste
man sleep

>>105860131
Yeah under Wayland. I was on X11 but alas, I use Ebussy’s DE.
What 3rd party are you using I’m kinda curious?

I'm using KDE+arch so this should be Networkmangaer /wpa_supplicant I think ?

When the AP loses power, or turn off / reboot.
I get asked to re-insert the password,
I'm not sure what causing it or how to solve it.

>>105860961
Launch network connections and check the tickbox that says connect automatically and remember password.

>>105861551
>check the tickbox that says connect automatically and remember password.
What if I told you this is checked?
This isn't a stupid question I promise.
The connection is set to connect automatically, I've raised the priority and made sure the password is saved.
Sometimes it do connect, sometimes it doesn't.
Which is annoying to say the least.

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>>105860961
nice tatas

>>105860902
>Ebussy's DE
Anon, why are you doing this to yourself? Anyway, there's a gorillion Discock 3rd party clients out there, most of them fix the sound/streaming issue by default. Equicord/Vencord are basically the same but they requiere you to also install Electron as a separate package, Legcord also provides the same features without having to install Electron.

neovim or vim?

>>105862788
Because I hate myself. Jokes aside, I’m gonna switch to a window manager. I was using KDE and Gnome on and off so you know.

will vulkan ever get used more with wayland?

What are some good project organization tools?
I have a workspace directory with about two dozen git repos, replicated across a desktop and two laptops, and it's getting overwhelming quickly. Even checking the status of each is becoming a chore, and I've got a TODO item for checking my different ones with a script.
I've resorted to having a .org file set to open on startup where I just keep notes and memos, but it feels like a duct tape solution.

>>105863969
One has nothing to do with the other. Vulkan will only get used more because less hardware has native OpenGL every year.

>>105862843
If you need to ask, Vim.

>>105864447
i don't think there was anything about xlib/xcb vs wayland that would lead to it potentially affecting which graphics API you're using
i suppose wayland in theory would be significantly more likely to get some new feature exposed to only vulkan that its opengl WSI extension wouldn't get
but the way those wayland freaks think the less applications have control or access to the compositor the better, i think you don't even properly get feedback from presentation because that would inform the application about display timings or the desktop or something

>>105864447
yes WSI provider definitely has nothing to do with a graphics API

>>105851757
>Direct Sound
Last time I installed Gothic winetricks dsound directmusic just werked

>>105851757
I actually just ran into this problem trying to run Touhou 6 which requires directsound.

On a related note, I just swapped to using dwm and I'm enjoying it, but certain programs (such as the aforementioned Touhou 6) have a fixed window size and can't be readjusted. They force themselves into floating mode and are stuck at a tenth of my screen size, none of the fullscreen binds work. Is there a proper way to go about this for dwm specifically? I'm a weirdo who prefers to just use monocle layout 100% of the time so not being able to fit the window to the screen because it refuses to be resized irks me

>>105863426
I see. Gnome has some nice features here and there, but personally it's not worth the hassle. You should at least disable the Tracker thing, that shit makes your fans go apeshit (at least that's what hapened to me long ago.)

>>105851757
winetricks dsound dmusic

>>105862843
Nano or Vi

>>105864255
I use these shitty functions I wrote to navigate my repo directory:
# fuzzy cd util
# fzcd is the base function
fzcd () {
[ -z $1 ] && return
local fzdir=$(ls "$1" | fzy)
cd "$1/$fzdir"
}
# really opinionated child functions of fzcd parent function
cdr () { fzcd ~/dat/repos }
alias cdp='cd /etc/portage' #not a child fn of fzcd but it makes sense that it lives here to me

# vim in dir util
vd () {
local PATHSTORE=$(pwd) #remember current path
[ ! -e $@ ] && echo "file/directory does not exist" && return
[ -f $@ ] && cd "${@%/*}" && vim "${@##*/}"
[ -d $@ ] && cd $@ && vim .
cd $PATHSTORE #go back to saved path
}
# more opinionated child functions, but this time for vd
vdr () { vd "$HOME/dat/repos/$@" } #could prob either have bash autocompletes from dir or pass output from fzy to vd


if your issue is they become out of sync then just use git. if git add -A, git commit, and git pull are too much work for you then just use something like syncthing.

Good ricing guide for first timers?

>>105865755
>>105864255
they are posix shell functions so you can just throw them into your bashrc or some shit, sorry forgot to mention that. if you are trying to git pull all the repos in that dir and that is becoming a chore just do some shit like this shitty one liner I just came up with:
for i in *; do [ -d "$i" ] && echo "$i" && (cd "$i" && git pull) || echo "not a git repo"; done

>>105865767
unironically just fuck around and find out. read guides on what tool you are trying to use, plenty of videos out there on "how to configure hyprland" and shit, etc

>>105865843
not what I asked for. Guide or don't reply.

>>105865843
>>105865755
I want to avoid shell scripting, I have some other ideas on the back burner feature wise. Definitely interesting tho

>>105865858
you will only get answers like this if you don't say what wm, bar, wayland/x11, etc. you have given absolutely no context faggot

>>105865875
why do you want to avoid shell scripting? honestly one of the biggest pros of using linux to me. honestly just curious why one would prefer to avoid it.

>>105865885
It's nice for simple automations, but if you're doing anything complicated enough to require conditionals, it's worth considering an actual language.

>>105865894
fair. I just like how quickly I can get shit out of my head with shell scripts. I definitely have a couple of shell scripts that have gotten way to big and need to be rewritten in a better language

>>105865877
because it literally doesn't matter, anything at all. dumb nigger

>>105859853
Does this mean you can't play the events until now?

>>105864447
>>105864580
it's more whether wayland even does anything with vulkan currently, I don't think it does and I'm wondering if that will ever change

>>105865034
This usually makes the problem worse for me

>>105864848
Okay my solution ended up being creating xrandr scripts to change my display scale at will to force the game into fullscreen

what are my best options on openSUSE GNU/Linux+systemd to achieve functional and usable gui with lowest-possible resource consumption?
right now running it with xfce ~550mb on cold start with nothing else running. kde or gnome go 900+ cold start so a no-go area.
i have an old machine with 2c4t/4gigs and i want to set it for light shitposting and google docs - i want the os and de to take absolute lowest minimum of compute resources while still having basic desktop functionality to open a browser, listen to music, or work with files. and i kind want to go with tumbleweed for rolling memes so that i never have to touch this machine ever again.
i remember having my first pc with 256mb ram - it was able not only to run windows xp on it, but i even gaymed some things like first call of duty and vice city. now it is .5-1 gig of ram just for the os+de. disturbing.

Since windows is full retard and has no LDAC support I'm considering replacing it with linux. I've heard of some method of running linux natively and passing through that LDAC signal somehow? Does anyone know how does that work?

>>105868368
use swaywm with fish and yazi
no one actually needs a DE, not even something as "light" as xfeces
when i'm in sway on a hidpi screen at 1080p the ram usage is at like 400mb

>>105869027
>swaywm
Not as fun or aesthetic as hyprland
>fish
Dribbling retards enjoy seeing an aquarium in their terminal
>yazi
Yes, good suggestion

>>105869079
>Not as fun or aesthetic as hyprland
i'm someone who switched to swaywm in the past 3 weeks because hyprland kept randomly crashing, this is on a intel igpu which is supposedly well supported.
it's good-looking but shit. programmed by a fucking retard.
try it but i guarantee you'll be on sway in no time.
>fish
oh haha you're real funny. didn't know fucktards with sub-reddit-tier humour thought they would make this place their home

>>105869079
Not him but I've used fish in the past and I thought it was good. At the moment I just use bash though because it works with scripting and stuff (e.g. nvm, Node Version Manager, which doesn't work with fish). And I find myself using multiple machines these days which have bash by default, and I'm too lazy to change them all to zsh or fish or whatever.

>>105856715
Is Google broken?

>>105868368
>lowest-possible resource consumption
XFCE is very lightweight. There might be a handful of lighter ones but it's going to be negligible. LXQt, LXDE, etc. Try those ones.

>>105869123
>At the moment I just use bash
Yes that's the point. Using a non-posix shell because it has a fucking animated aquarium is stupid, you just need to set your environment to bash anyway for script purposes.

100% guaranteed: people only use fish because of the animated aquarium and/or because they saw some pointless row of ASCII text colors in distrotube's terminal.

>>105869105
Look how injured he is that someone mocked his little pointless aquarium. I bet that really helps you focus on your workflow, right. So relaxing and cool. Much better than the green Matrix text generator.

>>105869179
>100% guaranteed: people only use fish because of the animated aquarium and/or because they saw some pointless row of ASCII text colors in distrotube's terminal.
I started using it because of its autocomplete. But now on bash I manage without that I guess. A lot of commands are short so I can just type them in. And if I want a long command that I previously used (which fish would be able to autocomplete) then I just run something like `history | grep ffmpeg` if I'm trying to find a long ffmpeg command.

>>105869259
Bash has completions btw, maybe it's in your repo or github if you prefer.

>>105869179
I have no idea whats the aquarium thing you're on about
I use fish because it has a bunch of features out of the box and I dont have to manage a config file like zsh
Imagine struggling against bash's retarded tab completion on 1989+36

Anon using his non-POSIX fish shell, circa 2025 colorized

Nautilus is so fucking slow on my thinkpad holy fuck

>>105869422
I recently installed a bunch of file managers and ran them side by side to see which was best. Nautilus, dolphin, nemo, thunar and caja. Dolphin had the most features and looked mostly like the others.

>>105869443
Dolphin works fine but nautilus completely shits itself when I browse my shitposting folder with over 2000 images

What's the least retarded way to exit a shell script if it's not ran with root privileges?
test $EUID = 0 || exit
Like so?

What's a good linux program that turns video files like webms into gifs?

>>105869556
ffmpeg

But I think webms are more efficient in terms of space. So if you want to post a webm or gif on 4chan, a webm is probably better, because you can have better quality and a longer length, while still complying with the file size limit.

>>105869372
*troon using his POZIX bash shell

>>105869617
Thanks! I agree, but im only making a few gifs just to use as avatars on some sites.

>>105869617
currently messing around with ffmpeg right now. found this code so i decided to try it out

ffmpeg -ss 30 -t 3 -i sunshine.webm \
-vf "fps=10,scale=320:-1:flags=lanczos,split[s0][s1];[s0]palettegen[p];[s1][p]paletteuse" \
-loop 0 output.gif

i end up getting this in red text
>Error writing trailer of output.gif: Invalid argument

And this in yellow text
>Output file is empty, nothing was encoded (check -ss / -t / -frames parameters if used)


what do?

>>105831714
LXC is basically the linux equivalent of jails. There's also docker/podman which might be easier to use

>>105865767
Just look at someones config and copy stuff line by line so you can figure out what each line does

You DO have a Git repo of all your dotfiles, right /fglt/?

Just wanted to say I upgraded from a i5-6600k to a i7-6700k and my cpu usage when watching yt videos went down to like 20-30% compared to before where it was at around 60-70% since my 1070 is not supported for hareware acc.
feels fucking good man. the i7 was only $35 too.

>>105868473
LDAC is just one of the available codecs. If your headphones support it, you'll see it offered as an option.
pic is on Kubuntu, I haven't installed anything extra to make it work.

>>105870618
>my 1070 is not supported for hareware acc
GPU accelerated video is quite easy to set up in Firefox (as least it was easy to set up on my computer with an Intel iGPU, and presumably it should work for Nvidia GPUs too, as long as you have Nvidia drivers installed)

>>105870317
No, I use a proper backup solution.

>>105871122
You can backup a Git repo in tons of different ways. But using Git means you can track the changes. So if you fucked up one of your dotfiles then you can see what you used to have, and you can bring back an older version.

do people really care about that xlibre thing or it's just one retard spamming that shit non-stop?

>>105871152
Wayland, red hat, gnome and freedesktop can burn for all I care.

>>105870903
>GPU accelerated video is quite easy to set up in Firefox
nope not on my machine

>>105871152
it is sysvinit all over again. you see how it all turned out.

I'm trying to compile bash from source using the guide available in Linux from Scratch guide but I keep getting compilation errors
I tried the version that was described in the guide as well as older and newer versions and I couldn't compile any of them
What could be wrong?
Any help would be appreciated

>>105871152
It's annoying that freedesktop is run by a bunch of mentally ill degenerates, but it doesn't really matter much now that wayland is usable.

>>105871200
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Firefox_Hardware_acceleration

>>105871331
>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Firefox_Hardware_acceleration
>This guide is adjusted for Fedora only and may not work for stock Mozilla binaries or other distros.
I'm using Mint tho. guess I'm fucked.

>>105871395
It shouldn't matter

>>105871152
It's a legit fork of Xorg if you care about certain outstanding issues being addressed, but the number of people who care is small and shrinking by the day.

Applying politics to free software is fucking retarded, and that goes both ways.

>>105871200
That screenshot is from a Chromium-based browser, not from Firefox

>>105871200
>>105871440
Just to follow up, I think GPU accelerated video can sometimes be set up with Chromium based browsers on Linux but I gave up with it because I couldn't get it to work. I got it to work in Firefox pretty easily though. I can see whether it's working or not using intel_gpu_top which shows whether the GPU is decoding video (for an Nvidia GPU you'd have to use a different tool of course)

Good music player? I'm always a foobar2000 of a guy

>>105871490
Audacious

>>105871560
Thanks bro

>>105871200
There's a couple of chrome flags you can set to forcefully enable it, and also there's some launch flag you can add to your menu shortcut to disable sandboxing. Apparently those fix hardware accelerations in some GPUs from what I remember.

>>105871490
qmmp for a winamp clone (uses winamp custom skins)
Elisa for something like itunes

Right, I have looked at the babbie distros page in the OP and gotten a rough idea of what to go with (debian, ubunto, mint ect seemed to be the main ones) but I am still unsure which one choose as I am a retard who wants to be able to use Fusion 360 ontop of Steam or 6th generation console emulation with my OS. I have zero fucking unix experience and usually I would stay in my lane with windows but I outright refuse to go to 11 and the mandatory switch period is closing in. If I need to learn to use a less tard-proof distro to do what I want to do I can.

>Run Firefox with NVD_BACKEND=direct MOZ_DISABLE_RDD_SANDBOX=1 env variables.
how exactly do you do that?

>>105871152
i was falling for /g/ memes for a long time, now i just installed tumbleweed with gnome+wayland+systemd and it just works

How do I get wayland to work properly using VMware?

>>105871867
If you're on KDE it's really easy. Find Firefox in your start menu, right click it, click "Edit application" then paste that stuff into the environment variables field

>>105871776
Mint is built specifically for windows noobs. No point using nigbanto. Debian is just as pozzed as all the other normie distros right now. At least the mint dev is pro-Palestinian. Have a look at Pop OS too.

>>105871872
Try using this to check you have the right packages installed.

https://flathub.org/apps/dev.serebit.Waycheck

>>105871895
Got it, thanks anon

>>105845982
SDDM is not a DE, its a login manager. KDE is the DE.

>>105871890
I'm on Mint

>>105871776
>Fusion 360
Seems like a pain in the ass to get working judging by a quick googling

>>105864848
gamescope

>>105869556
Seconding ffmpeg, this modern classic of an article tells you how to make the best quality gifs. Used it to make a bash script

https://www.bannerbear.com/blog/how-to-make-a-gif-from-a-video-using-ffmpeg/

>>105871776
Personally I like Ubuntu and I prefer it to Mint. But /g/ likes to recommend Mint. They're basically the same except that Mint doesn't come with snaps (/g/ seems to hate snaps) and Mint comes with the Cinnamon desktop by default, instead of GNOME.

Go with what you prefer though.

this parabolic gnome app is ok

Any way to use a surface tablet as a drawing tablet on a Linux PC?

>>105872125
Use case for snaps? Flatpaks exist.
Use case for gnome? It's very limited in terms of customization, even with tweaks installed.

>>105871152
it's more than one retard, but yeah, it's stupid. If you want to use x11-server you're still better off with the official one.

>>105872169
usecase for flatpaks?

>>105872187
They work and are easy to install on any distro.

>>105872203
the native packages work and are easy to install on my distro.
Tried flatpak once and it was awful

>>105872125
Noted

>>105871992
Open their equivalent of shortcuts editor, menu editor, or whatever it's called. Usually this is done with right click on your app menu, or through your settings.
Edit the shortcut/command to open your browser and paste those as arguments.

>>105871776
Just use Bazzite. It's THE most retard proof distro out there. Alternatively, you can use Nobara.

>>105872230
Native packages are retarded because you depend on the distribution maintainers to compile them and ship them to you. This is as dumb as having T Mobile or Samsung build all 3rd party applications on Android. The end result is just shit user experience and (in the case of Mint/Ubuntu) outdated software.
The reason flatpak is so popular is because many users have identified this issue.

If any of you go for (k)ubuntu and use firefox, delete the snap and install the .deb. Snap firefox is the worst shit

>>105872633
>you depend on the distribution maintainers to compile them and ship them to you.
that's what I want. I chose my distro based on that.
>outdated software.
I'm on rolling release
>The end result is just shit user experience and
Nope, native packages have better user experience than any of the shitty containers.
The maintainers also integrate them properly to your distro and it will work together with the rest of your system.
>The reason flatpak is so popular
Is it really? I don't think so. Being better than snaps doesn't make you popular, it just makes you less shit.

What's the best Linux DE for an elderly person?

>>105872728
My grandparents (80 + 81) use Pop OS. Though admittedly they only use firefox to gamble.

Ask this lady, she mostly uses Ubuntu and Debian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XhNM_2gYBQ

>>105871776
>debian, ubunto, mint
out of those mint, for newer drivers and stuff bazzite is good (you can't really fuck up the root partition and it comes with backups you can select on grub if something does go wrong)
>Fusion 360
I'd suggest freecad or onshape

>>105872728
Probably Xfce or something really simple like IceWM

>>105872728
Xfce or MATE.

>>105872716
>native packages have better user experience than any of the shitty containers
This is provably false
>I chose my distro based on that
Not everyone is a fosstard. Normal people want to source their software directly from developers, not some random unrelated party. To normal people an OS is just a platform to install and run applications.
>Is it really?
Many applications have millions of installs. And multiple distros are either directly exposing flatpak as an install option within their app stores, or are just outright defaulting to it.

Distro repositories for system essentials
Flatpaks for applications
Github for plugins
Simple as

>>105872887
>Flatpaks for applications
Why not use distro repos for apps as well?

>>105872728
If the person is only used to iOS or Android, then GNOME.
If the person is already familiar with desktop UI, then Cinnamon or KDE Plasma.

>>105872863
>This is provably false
it is very damn true with the shitty snaps on ubuntu.
>Normal people want
why should we care about them?
>Not everyone is a fosstard.
I'm not one either.
>millions of installs
by that logic it is barely existing compared to the elephant in the room, windows (which does not use flatpaks at all I guess)

New thread:
>>105872908
>>105872908
>>105872908

>>105872932
Would it kill to bake at page 8?

>>105872894
nta but
>the secret sauce for immutable distros
>can rollback and pin apps
>better cross distro compatibility
>forced bubblewrap sandboxing
>less clutter in home dir if you care about that

Ignore the retard. Here's the real new thread:
>>105872971
>>105872971
>>105872971

>>105872932
>>105872979
so we're doing this again. fuck you all

Actual real new thread:
>>105872977

>>105873000
Nice digits. But I say we should post in the thread that actually has a fucking subject
>>105873004
Fuck off

>>105872887
This.

>>105872894
Because distro maintainers have historically made major fuckups when packaging software to the point where developers have actually said "stop installing this app through your package manager and just use flatpak or appimage"

>>105831713
late but Fedora has never fucked me over

>>105872932
>>105872979
>>105873004
the fuck are you guys doing

>>105870317
i did but then i stopped updating it properly so i just use rsync now to transfer it between pcs and stow to set up the symlinks

>>105864848
Wine has a desktop window option which might help things

>>105872856
>>105872861
>little UI with next to zero accessibility features
Friends, you have probably mistaken "elderly person" with "elderly machine".

>>105872910
>If the person is already familiar with desktop UI, then Cinnamon or KDE Plasma.
Thing is that Cinnamon is too simplistic for your average 98 SE/2000/XP user, while KDE is too overwhelming.

>>105873082
forking threads, well played retards

>>105872169
Snaps aren't the reason I prefer Ubuntu. I think I just trust Canonical to be on top of security shit, hopefully. Since they have paying customers and all that. Also I dunno if Ubuntu Pro works with Mint (it gives you more security patches). I know /g/ dislikes corporate shit but I just want my computer to work to be honest. It's just personal preference I guess. A lot of /g/ seems to prefer Mint because they absolutely don't want snaps. I'm not so bothered really.

>>105872932
retard
>>105872979
cringe
>>105873004
based

>>105873135
>Cinnamon is too simplistic
That's the point

>>105873221
>I just trust Canonical to be on top of security shit
You do realize they base their hiring on DEI practices instead of actual merit and skill?
If you ever tried to apply to a technical job there, the application literally asks you for your gender (customizable), sexual orientation (customizable), race / skin color, etc.

>>105873258
>That's the point
Not really, because person who's familiar with Windows is going to constantly ask "hey, where is my X?", and unable to find it again and again will make an assumption that the OS is just a cheap cut-down inferior copy.

I've just discovered this
https://github.com/dockur/macos
Is there a way to run android?

on the windows laptop i have when i resume it from sleep the boot spinner pops up a second and it takes a moment to actually resume, on my linux laptop the screen open right to the lockscreen pretty much instantly. is the windows laptop sleeping deeper here? its not hibernating i don't think.
if its preserving battery more that way is there a way i can replicate this functionality on linux?

>>105874358
I'm pretty sure Windows doesn't "sleep" properly anymore.
>if its preserving battery more that way
If this is the case then it's hibernation. When you were installing Linux your distro (if it's not shit) likely asked you if you want to set up a swap file with hibernation support. If you didn't set this up you'll have to do it manually: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Power_management/Suspend_and_hibernate#Hibernation

>>105865894
just admit incompetence

>>105874358
>>105874407
adding to this: some OEMs don't implement ACPI properly and just "fix" it in the windows drivers. so you may have minor issues regardless.

>>105872098
Was about to ask how i can reduce the file size of the gifs I was making and this article told me how to do it. Thanks!