What went so wrong with Japanese electronics and technologies?

20 years ago, companies like Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba, Hitachi, Sharp, Sanyo, Casio, Hitachi, Olympus, Seiko, Sharp, NEC etc dominated the electronics industry but today they are a mere shell of what they used to be like

>refrigerators, washmachines, vacuums, batteries, and air conditioners
>Laundry machines, including washer-dryers
>lithium-ion and flash memory your phone uses were created by Japanese
>Hitachi Building Systems is the second largest manufacturer of elevators in Japan
>DSLR cameras
>LCD
>LED blue light
>fiber optic communications
>the first bullet train (Shinkansen)
>CD was created by Sony based on PCM sound source
>Video Home System (VHS), which preceded the DVD, was invented by Victor Company of Japan
>DVD
>Blu-Ray discs
>Flash memory - created by Japan
>J-SH04 – the world's first camera phone capable of sending picture messages
>Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, GameCube
>SEGA MEGA DRIVE, SEGA SATURN (2x Hitachi SH-2 @ 28.63636 MHz), SEGA DREAMCAST (Hitachi SH4 chips)
>Ken Kutaragi and PlayStation

>It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal

Is coffee good for you?

i want to violently skullfuck her face until she pukes and then jam my small digusting penis in her vagina if you know what i mean

>>105836652
yes

>>105836688
And least her suffering will be short.

>>105836605 (OP)
As a white blonde incel with a large penis, I would marry her and treat her so very well every day, I would make her life like a paradise on Earth.
Her hair is so pretty... :D

Plaza Accords

>>105836605 (OP)
>What went so wrong with Japanese electronics and technologies?
Americans happened.
Don't you fucking know about the US-Japan trade war that crippled the Japanese economy to the point where Japan never recovered?
Basically, the most liberal us president in US history was mad that inferior American products were not selling well and decided to cripple the Japanese economy (at the time, the second largest in the world) so hard that Japan was forced to open companies in the US and give the rights of their products to those American companies outside Japan. This means that Japanese brands were now being managed by retarded Jewish MBA's who only seek profit and soon drove the Japanese reputation for reliable products by outsourcing it all to China.
You can't buy Japanese products made in Japan in most of the world because the US parent companies (who only pay royalties to abuse the Japanese brands) don't allow it.

Turns out that Americans are the cancer of the planet.

>>105836605 (OP)
Japanese society collapsed so their tech sector did too

Americans, via jews, once again ruined another nation. 119 isn't a joke. It'll be 20032 soon

>>105836774
So the same thing they are doing right now but are failing because China is not surrendering.

>>105836605 (OP)
86-91 Fucked by USA, never recovered after.

>>105837015
Brother, China is on another level.

>>105836652
>>105836703
no.

That's not very lust-provoking.
I'm straight, btw.

>>105836605 (OP)
>be china
>fund your private companies with public money so they can sell products for cheaper than everyone else
>everyone eles goes out of business
>lol free market economics at work guys :D

boomers and their globalism fairplay memes fucked everyone over just like their retarded civilrights policies.

>>105837451
Amazon has been doing this for decades

Japan exploited a loophole in international relations by getting insanely cheap resources from soviet and other communist states in return for shit electronics.

Once the soviet union fell it was just a matter of time before the Japanese economy broke down which happened in 1995. Banks and companies got spooked and never allowed risky innovation again.

The CD wasn't invented by a japanese. it was a German guy.

Most of these things were not invented or more specifically patented by japanese. this is them being a bunch of merchants

>>105836605 (OP)
We had this thread a few weeks ago. All the answers you need are there.

>>105837647
ChatGPT on the rampage again, hallucinating alternative timelines?

>>105836605 (OP)
AY YO HOMIE WHO DAT WHITE BITCH?
HOOK A BROTHA UP

>>105837094
Boy, the wumaos sure have been clinging to that headline for years.

>>105837138
>New Perun
Fuckin A.

>>105837969
It's that white woman who does japanese porn and says she hatea white men ans fins them unattractive

>>105837959
how much of /g/ is ai in ur opinion? I dont mean pics, but posts
I cannot trust anything anymore desu

>>105836605 (OP)
Hardware obsession, software neglect
Rigid corporate structure and slow decision-making
Poor marketing and global branding
Internal competition, overengineering
Failure to adapt to mobile/digital age
Crushed by more agile Korean and Chinese rivals
Economic stagnation and demographic collapse

>>105836605 (OP)
it's because they are le embracing the western culture

>>105837094
american car CEOs don't even want to drive american cars

>>105838233
Yes so much unlike other obsessions.

>>105836605 (OP)
They got stubborn and started frequently either stagnating badly or making wildly terrible bets on future tech in the mid-late 2000s due to refusing to pay attention to what the rest of the world was doing. The PS3 was probably one of the most emblematic examples of this.

Ironically, trying to listen to the west NOW is only making shit worse for them (mostly because they're always 5-10 years behind and are just now getting into Tumblr/Twitter social justice circa 2018-2020).

>>105836605 (OP)
Japanese have abandoned consumer electronics also >>105838233
Most CE branch of these companies went down under the past 20 years.
The non presence on computers, and soon TVs (Sony TVs use korean or chinese panels and its market share is shrinking fast), smartphones are highly detrimental. They only remain on DSLR and cheap watches, grim.
For the household appliances, even Türkiye and fucking Slovenia are more relevant than Japan.

>>105838233
>tried to nuke
as if the japanese stopped it... which happened twice... which cause then to surrender, the last thing they thought they'd ever do.
the US's nukes were the final draw and they knew it, surrender or be wiped the fuck out, not sure why a japanese person would ever bring that up
oh wait that's a woman.

>>105836774
>>105836618
Why now though? As OP pointed out, they still made high quality tech products twenty years ago. Now that's collapsed. Can't blame Nixon or Clinton. Japan was doing great back then. Was it Obama? Why would he go after Japan and what were the policies he enacted? Genuinely curious as to why other US presidents gave Japan a pass for so long, but then Obama laid down the hammer.

>>105838480
they tried with computers (see MSX, NeWS, PC-88/98, etc), but it's not an easy thing to get into, just because there weren't any international successes in that regard doesn't mean they didn't try

>>105836605 (OP)

Also, Japan was king in the late 80s and early 90s but with Americas reapprouchment with China it fucked it up... Why pay JPN a grip of money when China does it for less than half as much....

I think Korea became the final nail in the coffin.

>>105836605 (OP)
SAUCE PLEASE

I only get to goon once a month and i must know this semen demon

>>105836605 (OP)
We stopped giving them free shit. That's literally it. I know your weeb delusions make you think life is like an anime and japs are le heckin based, but it isn't and they aren't.

>>105836605 (OP)
Japanese companies are making the optical components for semiconductor fabs (the fabs which are a cleanroom a size of a small city, with their own power plants). They are on the top of the food chain, you just don't see it because you want more consumer garbage while they are several steps above that.

>>105836605 (OP)
they went to burgerland and also allowed burger people to go to japan, that's what they did wrong
burgerland and its' people are the corruption of this world

China made them for cheaper.

Also Japan is completely reliant on the US economy and vice versa. And they import all of their oil. They really aren't making preparations for the next global war. They are just dogs of the US.

>>105838590
>As OP pointed out, they still made high quality tech products twenty years ago. Now that's collapsed.
momentum from the 90s persisted into the 2000s, it's not that hard to understand

>>105838737
Ella Freya
I will impregnate her every day

>>105838233
sauce?

>>105837994
Ella Freya

>>105838233
>tried

>>105838233
their nipples look weird

>>105838214
>how much of /g/ is ai in ur opinion?
Probably not much. The bigger problems are tourists from the r/italin abusing tribe, and the even bigger problem is when they become mods for the sole purpose of sabotaging this place and then boast on their tribal forum how they did it. And that is probably the main reason why the readership is in a long term decline here.

>>105836605 (OP)
sex

>>105837618
No they haven't. China spent $2 trillion funding their companies through grants, investments, and other subsidies. Blacks being on welfare is nothing like that. China also spends hundreds of billions of $ on welfare, but they don't have niggers who are a net drain on their society.

>>105836618
The only reason they had an economy is because of America. Their economy was driven by american investors and exports to America. They learned everything from Americans and American subsidaries. Even their famous quality control and business management was taught to them by William Edwards Deming who was brought over by the US military to teach about/direct the modernization and repair of japanese infrastructure. Same thing as China.

America forced them to sign a trade deal that kneecapped them

>>105836605 (OP)
End consumers got retarded, Japanese companies excel only when long-lived quality is required, not clout-chasing every-couple-of-years hoppers.
Today's international market is simply not for the Japanese. Also fuck you for this pic, I have a raging boner now.

>>105841062
This is such a cope. How come Americans can't make those electronics to a high standard then? You sit around babysitting apes and then want to take credit for Asian achievements that happen entirely outside your country despite being completely incapable of doing half the shit China's doing now. You can't even build trains properly because somehow people would still wind up getting shot in a gang shootout or some shit.

i don't know about the answer globally, but in my region you used to by Japanese (and American if you're old enough) for the reliability, or Korean for cheap(ish) shit that will break in 2-5 years, or maybe Chinese if it was a supposed option and you are a complete fucking retard.
but at some point, electronics themselves got cheaper and more reliable (at the component level), and Koreans stopped doing planned obsolescence and started to sell "premier" products. and the Chinese joined in at a later stage with an apparent plan to take over everything, and this is where we are.

TL;DR: Xiaomi didn't exist, and LG used to sell shit-tier products. both of these things are not true anymore.

>>105841324
s/by/buy

>>105838590
If you’re genuinely interested, there is this book

>>105838233
Why couldn't God give them natural blue eyes? Also >>105840539

>>105836605 (OP)
didn't read any of that slop

>>105836605 (OP)
TI finally sued them over the stolen IP they were running on.
Jap dominance in anything is built on theft. Fuck every jap in both eyesockets.

>>105838233
That video was clearly filmed in Japan. The caption isn't fake either, this is 7511398874255314206 on tiktok. I don't get it.

The only good thing a jap ever invented was seppuku.

>>105837451
Gonna cry?

>>105840311
what a woman

>>105840311
more like Ella Feya

>>105841240
>why can't america blah blah blah
because of (((outsourcing))) and (((h1b)))

>>105841725
In their defense, they don't abandon good designs and good design/engineering culture at the beck and call of larry fink and other nation wrecking goons. They can keep cranking out clones of 90's/00's american and european classics all fucking day since we've stopped bothering to do it ourselves.

>>105838592
>there weren't any international successes
MSX was big in the middle east.

>>105838233
>i'm going to show them thousands of dollars of plastic surgery
two nukes weren't enough

>>105840539
>their

>>105841865
their = japs, not your tranny boogeyman

>country falls behind in tech
>blames some other country instead of themselves
everyone on /g/ is eager to shit on intel until a thread like this pops up, then suddenly intel dindu nuffin and their fabs only fell behind because of some other country

>>105838592
Fifth generation computing!!!!!

>>105841725
I'd totally use something japanese rather than western, their stuff are way cooler.

>>105836605 (OP)
Linda minita

>>105840311
looks jewy

>>105842153
she's Dutch, they're just like that

>>105837094
>Corporate shill shills for any corporation that will pay him

there's so many reasons to it dating all the way back to ww2 but the most immediate is the retarded hierarchies preventing new ideas and the stubborn aversion to change. they could technically change this overnight but they won't just because.

japs need to see death and destruction eye to eye for them to change.

>>105836618
FPBP. The US threw away Japan like a used cum rag for a local economic boost.

Japan was allowed to become a powerhouse between the 50s~80s in order to prevent the USSR from expanding, specially since the US was also going through economic boom as well and had no financial difficulties at the time. So was Germany BTW.

But then the USSR collapsed and the US spending and debt was rising sharply so the US stopped prioritizing trade with Japan in favor of cheaper alternatives and local tech. There's a reason the Japanese economic bubble bursted soon after the collapse of the USSR. Germany and the EU started stagnating soon after that as well. Meanwhile the US had the DOTCOM bubble while also taking over the most of the software and IT industry.

All that said the US policies weren't perfect. China continued to grow, even faster than before, Russia also stabilized and now is one of the boogeyman again, and a spending is through the roof (a lot of which goes to sustain American tech through contracts and grants).

>>105838590
What happened was the SK-China double whammy.

I'll never forget this post:

>Japan has been living in the 2000s since the 80s

>>105836618
braindead yuropoor take lmao

>>105841725
>>105841804
>>105842085
Japs also don't simply copy stuff, they often improve on the original designs. Sometimes the improvements are subtle, sometimes they are significant.
Compare it to the Koreans who usually just copy things without any improvements, and the Chinks who often have a hard time building ripoffs that are nearly as good as the original.

It's true that Japs aren't very good at inventing things (just like other east asians), but they are very good at improving them.

>>105843347
man picrel hits always hard.
I understand the exaggeration of it, but it's just stupid how underpaid we are (at least in germany).
I wouldn't cry if the tax system was decent, but not even that. Money flowing non stop to shitcountries within the EU, rapefugees, ukrakikes, isreal.
Security, education and health? all fine and dandy until shit hits the fan.
Security => raped by refugee; no fucks given
Education => suck kike dicks and win
Health => take ibuprofen goy. Cancer you said? nah I don't think so, but I won't scan you until you are beyond salvation

>>105836605 (OP)
Plaza Accord happened.

>>105838592
Oh wow, I forgot about these X stations. Man I lusted over these back in the day.

>>105836605 (OP)
>>105840311
i love this race traitor more than you can ever believe

>>105841725
you're a retard who has no concept of what makes a good product. your picture can be applied it practically every country by cherry picking certain items. there's also a simple business principle of taking something that works and making it better - not that you would be aware of that as a terminally online basement dweller

they remembered their place

>>105840311
I discovered her yt channel last year and watched a few of her vlogs.
Seeing how she lives her life. How carefree, and how accepted she is. She is basically going from one leasurely activity to the next. And everyone loves her unconditionally. I could never achieve this no matter how hard i tried.

>>105843937
It's not that, it's actually how the European economy works.
The main thing that is dragging down the EU economy is the lack of a capital market union (now renamed into the savings and investment union). The second thing is the high taxes.

>>105838233
@ursenseinina

>>105843292
>Japan was allowed to become a powerhouse
Why shouldn't it? Fuck mutt warmongers and their jewish overlords.

>>105843347
>dutchfag
>3.1% year on year inflation
>wages are too low to cover costs of acceptable living
>"free" health care is actually 190 euros a month, with just 250 euros coverage of dental a year
>refugees with a residence permit have priority for social housing
What the fuck is happening here.

>>105836605 (OP)
Both Korea and China have massive state funded 'fuck Japan' initiatives to disrupt the Japanese electronic industries.
Japanese electronics are still pretty good and advanced, but have ceded the affordable categories to the China/Korean companies since they can't compete on cost.

>>105845730
I mean, I'm pro taxation but the people and companies that should be contributing the most in taxes have the most resources not to pay them. We're in a world where multi-million companies pay less tax than an independent small business and billionaire bob officially has so little income and savings they can claim state benefits.

>>105846153
Kinda fucked that they can't compete on cost. Their wages are fuck all too.

>>105841725
thats how societies catch up
the koreans did it it until they found a way to build their own stuff better
the chinese did it until they found a way to build their own stuff better
the taiwanese did it until they found a way to build their own stuff better

Some countries have too big of an ego to recognize western superiority and instead of learning from it, they mindlessly consume. Other countries actively try and learn from the best, and eventually figure it out on their own.

Seeing how developed and powerful the copycat machines (taiwan, china, Skorea and Japan) are today I have nothing but respect.
My home country, Algeria, prides itself in being anti-colonial and Russia-aligned, and the ego of the people and the government blinds them from actually learning anything, I had to escape this hell hole because it will never move forward. The only arab countries that manage to grow their wealth and make lives for their citizen better are those that acknowledged the superiority of the western culture and its emphasis on scientific progress, STEM education and innovation, like Saudi Arabia or the UAE. All arab countries that try to be contrarians inevitably reject progress and end up stagnating and their economies still heavily rely on oil/gas.

>>105846239
>and their economies still heavily rely on oil/gas.
You've perfectly described SA and UAE.

>>105836605 (OP)
China mogged

>>105836605 (OP)
Does she make lewds?

>>105836605 (OP)
Freya is wife material.

>>105836605 (OP)
I love white women /g/

>>105847238
sorry, no. girls from developed lands such as Benelux and Scandinavia never do. Only Germanettes make lewds purely for the love of kinkiness.

>>105848094
>>105847238
If you knew how to use a search engine... oh wait you don't because you both are underage retards.

>>105847238
No but she is the face model for Ashley in the recent Resident Evil 4 remake, you can find plenty of content for that.

>>105836605 (OP)
Because Japan literally never recovered from their economic bubble in the late 80s and those companies have been stagnant ever since.

>>105837094
some CEOs are absolute dumbasses.
enjoy having one of your main competitor listening to everything you say in your Xiaomi car and having full blown access to your phone if you paired it with the car (which he did ofc).

>>105841646
non-whites don't look good with light eye color

>>105841646
>Why couldn't God give them natural blue eyes?
He did, but they killed them all. Read more about the history of northern mongols.
There was a time where blonde asians with blue eyes were thing.

>>105848691
yeah, mixed with whites
>they're gone now
yeah, mixed with their fellow asians

>>105836605 (OP)
why was https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105847977 deleted but not this thread?

Japan is even more patent/IP retarded then America, bureaucratic megacorps basically have a monopoly on innovation due to weaponized patent portfolios including software patents.

>>105836605 (OP)
something called corporate management

>>105848841
Not at all, they still blonde asians with blue eyes and even still eat raw meat to this day, but their tribe is gone.

>>105843347
>free healthcare
no half-sane European ever said that, ameritard
even the geriatric communist doesn't get it because your education system is absolute dogshit

>>105836605 (OP)
PUTA

Chinese monetary policy to leverage it's own exports over all other countries. Something to do with the pricing of the Yuan and using 2 different currencies to fuck with the competitiveness of other countries.
Japan tried something similar with monetary policy in the 80s and that bubble popped in 1990. Japan is still recovering from that crash. Same thing with the Asian tigers.

Long story short, this is why the USA is a rust bucket. The US should have nuked all of these nations if it wanted to stand a chance.
But some Jews liked imploding the US for their strategic gains too. So here we are.

>>105843937
>Health => take ibuprofen goy. Cancer you said? nah I don't think so, but I won't scan you until you are beyond salvation
that's assuming you can find an appointment anywhere because all the 90 year old boomers on death's door are taking up all the spots

>>105843324
Whenever I think nips are smart, I remember this bubble and forget that quickly.
It's like hagglers in SEA. They really really think they suckered you, when you know damn well it's a rip off, it's just so cheap you don't care really. That's how Asians think. Westerners are starting to think like that in response though. That's the shocking part.

>>105849482
Nothing to do with it. It's pure capital issues and competitiveness with China that is fucking them, plus the blowback from the 1990 crash... still affecting them to this day.
Similar how to the Long Depression, Great Depression and world wars still affecting the US and the West to this day.

Did somebody say "why not debt clearance?"
That's anti-Semitism. Ban that poster.

>>105836605 (OP)
reminds of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Av6aGG2vZY

>>105849599
That reminds me, didn't the Japanese invent zentai?

>>105836605 (OP)
nothing they still produce some of the best stuff in the world you are gay

>>105836652
Well hey, At least it wasn't a tranime pic

>>105836605 (OP)
I want to feel her soft, warm soles pressed on my face

Obamna

>>105836774
You forgot to mention that this scum played a huge role in crippling japan in the 90s

>>105836605 (OP)
They were no longer needed as a bulwark after the Cold War. Nothing more, nothing less. You think Israel cares about Japan?

>>105838592
Flash memory was invented by the japs....
Along with other innovative tech

>>105836605 (OP)
They stopped creating new technology after Western help was cut off. Without the West, Japan can't innovate or do anything else at all.

they abandoned gif

>>105841646
Blue eyes are more prone to eye cancer.

>>105851633
fyi animes with male mc are not tranny fuel

>>105852416
what did he do?

>>105841240
>How come Americans can't make those electronics

Because it's 2025, not 1955 and we're not building our economy from the ground up with state of the art patents and unlimited funding.

American products were quality (I still have a Osterizer blender from my grandparents that they bought in the 70s. Same motor and electronics), the Japs gained American market share from a fixed yen that encouraged exports and then they sold products in America at a loss to gain traction in American markets.

Why don't Americans follow business management structures? The question is already loaded, because Japs don't JUST follow American management structures, they mostly adopted the quality assurance approach of "don't have fuck ups in any stage of production and you won't have to sort bad ones out of the final batch", it wastes time and money to go back and redo.
Keiretsu are also a reason Japs were so innovative, these sister and daughter companies isolated them from quarterly profit autism that westerners like.

For industry: It was already established in America. Japan was practically leveled in all it's industrial areas. You can see that in the Jap's adoption of oxygen steel making and them becoming one of the largest steel producers in the world only a few decades later. The Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry also offered government loans on pretty easy deals with very generous terms.

>>105843292
Why do you think America had a hand in Japan's lack of action in controlling it's absurd property bubble, and inflation that the government didn't check with raised interest rates and other policies?

>>105853953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCjkd44p_lE

>>105841240
>How come Americans can't make those electronics to a high standard then?
America can, the thing is that the US is built more around creating the concepts of these devices and then contract out the labor to other countries to use said concepts for people to buy in America. Many of the things done in-house are done because they're a necessity such as prototyping, agriculture, getting basic mineral resources, and processing basic resources or agriculture.

It's why trying to get certain jobs back in America is retarded because it means you now downgrade your workforce into labor-focused industries rather than higher-quality-focused industries. There is no reason to bring factory jobs back to America outside of highly advanced things like chip fabrication because it's entirely unnecessary provided it's not actively used for something important like medical, agricultural, or military basics. There's no reason to bring back things like making shoes, shirts, or random plastic doodads because the jobs pay terribly. The prices will never be lower than China can do it because of their willingness to pay people pennies a month.

You know when we had people getting deported and disingenuous people were saying "Well who will do the shit jobs now?". That's exactly it. People in America do not want the "shit jobs" or low paying jobs and expect said low paying jobs to keep up with the economy of better paying jobs because the economy itself is so far beyond needing to manufacture the vast majority of what places like China or Vietnam are. It's why the government pushing to bring back factories to certain areas, get coal mines running again, or get jobs that died for a reason back to America are super short-sighted and miss the forest for the trees. Appealing a small town of 500 people who mine coal for $7.50 is painful for said small town, but benefits hundreds of thousands of people with new high-tech jobs and advances the salaries of the people at those low-end jobs.

>>105855105
>Appealing a small town of 500 people who mine coal for $7.50 is painful for said small town
Don't know what happened here. I should have said:

Pandering to a small town of 500 people who mine coal for $7.50 an hour and helping them keep their jobs is wasting your time. Yes, it would help that small town stay afloat for maybe a decade or longer, but by ignoring that specific industry that has now gone the way of the dodo is overall better for the country as a whole as it can focus on many more high-tech jobs and benefit the lives of these people in so many ways.

Yes, smaller towns will suffer because the jobs just aren't there, or they were based around some specific niche, but this has been a thing all throughout history. Do you see shovel sellers camping out waiting for people to pan for gold anymore as they come from other states in anything that isn't a tourist trap? Do you see typists anymore outside of stenographers? and on and on.

When a society "upgrades" so to speak this is how they delegate lower-end things like actually manufacturing things that aren't necessary. So while China may have manufacturing experience they're ultimately not the ones coming out with novel ideas that are unique to their country. Pretty much everything that design that's new is functionally just a copy of something an American or European designed and done cheaper or taking massive shortcuts. Deepseek for example can't keep up at all with the current AI, Huawei phones don't really offer anything over other phones other than their prices, and the only things they've truly innovated on that I can think of are battery technology and self-driving technology as they are the leaders of both.

>>105854098
>Keiretsu are also a reason Japs were so innovative, these sister and daughter companies isolated them from quarterly profit autism that westerners like.
From where did you learn that? Are there any books or documents describing this?

>>105836605 (OP)
She is the sexy

>>105846033
I feel you. I worked in IT for 6 years on minimum wage because I was desperate to make SOME money. I didn't move out because social housing had a waiting list of 10 years and never had a chance (but somehow newcomers from faraway places got all the houses they need) renting anything else was too expensive. Buying not an option.
I kinda fell into a depression because of it. It was like I could only be stuck in that loop of work without growth possibilities, without any chance to earn more, without a chance to own a house for myself.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/24/business/us-china-trade-war-japan-intl

>>105846033
>>105856487
>Based poland

US destroyed Japan as they destroyed Europe and as they will destroy China. US cares only about itself and Israel, it's a parasite.

>>105841725
Poifull is 100x better than jelly beans

>>105858690
>US cares only about itself and Israel, it's a parasite
Why be repetitive?
America's federal reserve itself is Jewish private property.
Israel cares about itself only, which very talmudic.

>>105845554
its a facade, retard. dont fall for shit like that

>>105853953
Caused the Asian financial crisis which destroyed multiple economies and made billions in the process

>>105848546
good thing the woman in the video is blindingly pale then

>>105836605 (OP)
Something is off about the head.

>>105841169
>Japanese companies excel only when long-lived quality is required,

This.

Specifications that can be put on the side of the box are more desirable to modern consoomers than quality. Even if 99% of said consooomers will never use such specifications.

Then at the other end is everything has become a commodity. Which basically means China.

>>105847125
/thread

>>105860056
True

bump61

>>105853522
>They stopped creating new technology after Western help was cut off.
Doubt.
Also blue LEDs.

>>105854098
>Japs don't JUST follow American management structures, they mostly adopted the quality assurance approach of "don't have fuck ups in any stage of production and you won't have to sort bad ones out of the final batch"
Do you have any idea at all about quality assurance??

>>105853522
>>105863036
Japan culture actively discourages innovation. Yes their modern culture encourages quality, but it discourages innovation. The key aspect is not to stand out too much. Either by screwing up and making your boss and the organization look bad. Or buy showing up everybody else and making your boss and your peers look bad.

>The tallest blade of grass is cut first

>>105863164
Have you been to Japan? the way you describe Japan is alien to my experience though it is over 20 years since I worked there.

>>105836605 (OP)
Korea, then China, eroded the profit margin on these products. It's pointless to compete for pennies.

>>105863234
>Korea, then China
... and now Vietnam.

>>105863203
Only a couple of times have they created some kind of paradigm shift of innovation in technology. Like the Gameboy or the Walkman. Usually they will simply reproduce what was done first in the west but then they do it with far better quality. The innovation will come from improving their quality and manufacturing techniques. Not from creating something truly new out of the ether. Unlike in the U.S. there is no startup culture in Japan to found a company that will then compete by filling the gaps left over by their corporate giants.

Giant massive companies simply do not innovate. Not even in the U.S. In the U.S. they simply buy up smaller companies that innovate then claim it as their own. In the U.S. big companies don't innovate because threatening their behemoth legacy cash cow is bad for business. In Japan its a little more nuanced because its also a cultural thing.

>>105863611
>Tl;DR: Japan perfects existing tech rather than inventing new; unlike the U.S., it lacks a strong startup scene. Big companies in both avoid real innovation to protect profits.

>>105863164
>>The tallest blade of grass is cut first
grim as fuck

>>105852416
This niggas still alive and is banging some prime Asian hag pussy
You're just jealous
Bet he'll outlive stallman

>>105863611
the walkman was an innovation, but the gameboy (1990) not so much. it was technically inferior to the already existing atari lynx (1989), which had a colour screen (gameboy got in 1998) and a backlight (gameboy got in 2003)
what gameboy had instead were practical advantages, namely much longer battery life (owing to the lack of backlight and simpler 8bit design), and much lower price (owing to simpler design)

>>105867158
I wonder who could be behind this post

>>105868056
wasn't there something special about the display though? I think there was a mention in the ultimate gameboy talk about how the gameboy worked similarly than a CRT in terms of pixels and line drawing, but since the gameboy screen is not a CRT...

>>105869013
there's some interlacing-like behaviour with regards to how to the lcd is driven, but it's not the same as interlacing in a crt, if that's what you're talking about. i don't think there's anything special about how a gameboy lcd works either, the thing in question isn't unusual, you're just not meant to see it

>>105869013
>>105869132
also note that both the original gameboy and lynx screens were shit, with horrible viewing angles, contrast, and response times, but that was just the state of lcd technology at the time. later even more advanced handhelds like the sega gamegear and nomad didn't fare much better. lcd's only got ok in the '00s

>>105869206
(and of course, crt's didn't lend themselves to extreme miniaturisation or battery life, lcd's were chosen not for picture quality, but because they take up extremely little space and use extremely little power... if you don't need a backlight, remember that white leds weren't readily/cheaply available in the '90s, so a backlight meant a cold-cathode flourescent tube, which requires relatively bulky high voltage driving circuitry)

>>105869132
Interlacing as in drawing every other line? No I mean drawing the screen line by line from top to bottom and pixel by pixel within a line, similarly to how a CRT is drawn in this order but with a beam.
I don't know how a LCD display work at all but I thought that maybe, other handhelds would draw the screen "in one go" and that the gameboy screen would be different because of the CRT-like pixel drawing.

>>105869246
i see, well any lcd is also 'scanned' in that sense, but that doesn't make it crt-like, because the main difference between lcd scanout and crt scanout is that an lcd changes it's pixels during scanout, but each pixel remains in that state until it's changed (sample-and-hold). a crt on the other hand does its' scanout using a single bright dot, any part of the screen not being hit by the dot isn't illuminated at all, the image almost entirely only exists within your retina's persistence of vision. this had advantages and disadvantages, one major advantage is it provides far superior motion performance, detailing that is more suited to a crt thread. suffice to say the blur you see from following a moving object on an lcd simply doesn't exist on a crt because of how it draws the screen.
an lcd /can/ be "scanned out" in a single instance technically, but it would require more complex driving circuitry, i'm not deep into lcd tech really, but the only place i've personally heard of this being done in a related technology is in camera sensors. some professional sensors support "global shutter", which is the camera sensor equivalent. your typical rolling shutter sensor also scans out over some real time, which can result in "rolling shutter effect" or a visual skew if the camera is being panned at the time of scanout (taking a photo), which is similar to moving your eyes during an lcd scanout

>>105869246
>>105869340
perhaps then it could be that the gameboy's scanout is so slow that it does it continuously, like it only finishes once a new frame is ready to start. this could result in a similar visual skew to a crt when moving your eyes quickly left to right, this is one of the disadvantages to crt's, they are susceptible to "rolling shutter effect", especially at lower refresh rates (like 60Hz, which the gameboy runs at)
perhaps that's what they meant? the gameboy may be scanning out with crt-like timings, which could produce minor crt-like effects, thought if this hypothesis is true... it wouldn't be an advantageous one.
i'm not sure how visible this would be though, the pixel response time of a gameboy lcd is really terrible, like it takes a long time for a pixel to change colour, making moving images really blurry. i used a gameboy pocket as a kid, but i don't recall anything particularly special about the screen. i know more about what to look for now but unfortunately the screen on mine is fucked (mine looks like the one on the left now, idk when it happened)

>>105869340
>>105869423
I appreciate the effort posts anon, thanks.

I wasn't sure but now that smakes, that all LCDs do a "scanout" including the consoles (don't know which ones) for which the game loop renders a whole frame at a time. Those console must be using a frame buffer instead of having the PPU stream the pixels, and this would require another memory chip.

>perhaps that's what they meant?
Well, Nintendo made the NES to mimic a gaming arcade, so maybe with the gameboy they were trying to make a handheld NES. From the very little I know about the NES, it's comparable to the gameboy in terms of CPU and graphics. The NES graphics is also done with a "PPU", but the NES's PPU is made to output to a CRT so I imagine that it must be constantly outputting an analaog signal. So my theory is that they tried to keep a similar system and made a PPU that would work for an LCD display.

RIP for you gameboy. All the people of my age had a gameboy color but I only have a GBA SP. It seems fine but I don't really have a reason to use it, my favorite game was Pokemon Crystal but it was lended to me back then I can't play it.
I guess all this talk about old consoles getting out-of-service is true. Apparently even the playstations are getting damaged because of the capacitors leaking, scary as hell.

>>105845554
Just like your high school friend bragging about married a cute wife and had never argued with her even once for the past 10 years.
Well bullshit

>>105845554
>>105870300
beautiful women don't know what it's like it live in the real world for the other 95%
>no matter how hard i tried.
it was never a matter of trying, it's a state you're born with by chance. the blessed don't realise how blessed they are.

>>105836605 (OP)
What are you talking about? I love my Honda.

>>105872024
Honda of 20 years ago or even 10 years ago is a different beast than honda now, they won't even fix the oil dilution issues in their turbocharged high strung engines because it's within design tolerances.

>>105872162
What about Toyota now vs Toyota of 10-20 years ago?

>>105838590
It depends on what your definition of the word 'quality' means. The word quality means different things in different parts of the world. In Europe the word "quality" is more in tune with style and performance. In Japan quality has always meant reliability and durability. Like does it work and will it keep working.

They still make high quality products to this day. You simply have to find a SKU that was physically manufactured in Japan. Which is increasingly harder to do. But it can be done if you know what part and SKU numbers to look for, for whatever Japanese brand that you are buying.

>>105872162
It's funny, Honda and Toyota have gone downhill, but Mazda of today is far better than Mazda of 10 or even 20 years ago.

>>105872379
Ok I'm only going to say this once. You have to find a J vin number. The first alphanumeric symbol on the VIN needs to be a J. That is how you know that the vehicle was actually manufactured in Japan and not someplace like Mexico or Tennessee. The first alphanumeric digit of the VIN is the code number for the country that the vehicle was physically assembled in. Japanese vehicles actually built in Japan are solid gold and still rock solid. You just have to check the VIN before you buy.

>>105872497
>VIN before you buy.
how to do this without looking like a sperg in the car salon?

>>105872796
If it's used just look at the Carfax.