How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Case Studies, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEM-EQ-Guide/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archieve, Books & Papers, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35
• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Mild V) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) - $8
• JCally JM20 Pro (8-Band PEQ) - $24
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>105816978

Simgot won, EA500LM is endgame.

>>105842212
No.

Truthear Gate for $15 and KZ AZ09 Pro for $36 a good deal or is Amazon trying to bamboozle me?

>>105842088 (OP)
I feel like if you pulled that thing out in public you'd be shot on suspicion of being a terrorist

>>105842434
first off, the az09 pro literally will not fit the gate, incompatible pins. second, the az09 and similar bt hooks are dogshit hissy trash.
gate is fine for $15 w/e

>>105842477
>the az09 pro literally will not fit the gate, incompatible pins
They both say 0.78mm though? Or is the spacing or length different or something?

>second, the az09 and similar bt hooks are dogshit hissy trash.
I'm specifically looking for blueshit and these look like the least bad that aren't ridiculously expensive. AZ09 Pro supports AptX HD, supposedly.

>>105842557
the az09 has a plastic shroud over the pins meant for qdc-style connection. gate has a slight recessed connection which makes it doubly incompatible.
>AZ09 Pro supports AptX HD, supposedly
that specification is independent of the flaw i mention, which is hiss (noise floor)

>>105842054
For the price it cant possibly be great, but it also comes with 0 storage at that price

>>105842557
nta but az09 pro is suited for qdc connectors which stick out of the shell
gate is the opposite, the connectors are recessed
>AZ09 Pro supports AptX HD, supposedly.
having owned both az09 and the pro version, they both hiss
the pro much less so but still noticeable. i wouldn't recommend them

>>105842570
>>105842583
Thanks guys. Either of you have a recommendation for something that's not shit? I'd like to keep it under $70.

Xixtas, enjoy the female poison!

>>105842088 (OP)
>80$
>just to listen music on my phone. And it would also be great (but optional) if the headphones were comfortable when sleeping (i.e. they shouldn't put pressure on my ear when lying on my side).
>Sony WI-C200B, kinda meh. Also pain in the ass while sleeping.
Thanks in advance!

>>105842601
unironically just get separate tws. it's a better solution for wireless

>>105842670
Sure, have a recommendation?

>>105842650
I definitely thought it would have less bass, but this looks very good desu

I can't believe that I wasted so much money in this snake oil bullshit

>>105842715
welcome to the club bro

do you really carry around a brick thats bigger than a 1st gen ipod?

>>105842650
nothing has fucking mids ever

>>105842715
sorta new to the scene but it all just seems so consooooom. a dozen new (mostly chifi) iems release every month, half of them riding youtuber hype trains, only to rinse/repeat a month or two later. seems like an annoying "hobby," my plan is to just get a couple pairs that sound great to me and then exit the game and move on with my life

>>105842767
then don't consoom and read the eq guide

>>105842767
Just buy one pair that sounds good, EQ it if you want it to sound differently, and buy something else when it breaks.

>>105842650
>another Origin repackaged
ok, time to pack it up with Jim from Tanch

anyone here who uses wyvern black (non-remaster) and finds them actually comfortable?
trying to find out if I'm doing something wrong.
no matter how I insert them or which size of tips I use, after max. half an hour my ears start to hurt from the pressure of the shell

>>105842650
READY
E
A
D
Y

can i just buy an xperia zx2 compact as portable media player and call it a day

>>105842601
>>105842683
pls respond

>>105843019
space travel is still the default rec for $25 tws, but the travel2 is coming out soon so wait for that
mino is also decent

>>105843056
This guy? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FGDFR8CM
Shenzhen Audio is an official retailer, right?

>>105843153
she's a beautiful princess, mind your words. but yes, that gal
shenzhenaudio, linsoul, hifigo are all retailers.
brands --> retailers --> marketplaces (their own sites, amazon, ebay, aliexpress, etc)

>>105843019
Earfun Air pro 4
Good sound + good ANC + Good mics + supports whatever codec you want
And unlike moondrop's the android app isn't hot garbage

i broke my kz hbb pr2's because i'm a human. they served me well, and were the best value iem's i've ever had. i got them on sale for $30.

my kz hbb pr2's served me for something like 500 to 600 hours

>pr2
>best value iem
grim

Advice for making my smarptphone into a portable music player?

>>105843218
Just checking since your post seemed to imply that the 2 wasn't out yet. Didn't want to buy some knockoff preying on retards like me.

>>105843244
Thanks anon. Tbh, I was hoping not to deal with chink shitware. Are the apps strictly required to use them?

>>105843314
they're useful for EQ
I haven't tried the Space Travel 2. But at least on the Earfun app you don't need an account

>>105843310
depends if you live in a shithole or not, and if you need eq
if eq is needed, either use convolution files with jamesdsp and your app of choice, or poweramp
for optimal storage size, transcode your library into opus
you can also opt for streaming via navidrome/jellyfin/plex into their respective apps or symfonium. many are also capable of caching, so if you only listen to a few things then use that

>>105843314
go for the air pro 4, they look decent and anc performance will most likely be better than what i recommended (which also have apps that are sus xd)

>>105843360
How to know if I need EQ?

>>105843372
If you're a pleb and you're fine with whatever dogshit tuning the manufacturer shovels out, you don't need EQ.

>>105842650
tanchnigga needs to make a 1DD version with this DF style without the tard cable tax

>>105842650
>5128
kys

gg, i can feel the ear infection getting a hold of my precious ears

Hello

I have a pair of Phillips X2hr headphones. What in ear headphones would give me equivalent sound?

I don't really have a budget, maybe £100. I would prefer bullet style in ears over iems.

Thanks

Are TWS worth it???? Or will the battery fuck up?

>>105843784
tanchjim one
>>105844057
batteries will always fuck up
either get something with easily replaceable batteries, or view tws as consumables to be bought after 2-3 years

Find a flaw

>>105844350
>ugly

>>105844350
Metal pos, it'll clog.
Dumb fixed nozzle grill, so you can't even replace the filter without destroying the metal grill.
Open-back vent looks like a shower drain.
Ugly cable.
No one wants to own a DUNU.

has dunu even released any worthwhile pos as of late?

Thoughts on Soundbrenner Wave?

>>105844574
>Soundbrenner Wave
>oem cheap shit chink pos
>overpriced by $300
lmaooooo

>transjim force tracking says flight departed 3 days ago
>still hasn't landed
its in the ocean isn't it

>>105842088 (OP)
>>Budget
how about a nice pmp on sale on amazon prime day or no?

>>105844350
it has bad letters on it, like terrorists use

Paid $11 (after tax) for a Tripowin Zonie 4.4mm/MMCX cable on Amazon on Prime Day. I release myself from the burdens of trying to find some mystical super cables and will just enjoy my IEMs normally again.

>>105845357
good boy

>>105842991
no

>>105845357
>he fell for the 4.4meme

>>105842088 (OP)
What is the media player in the OP?

>>105844072
>or view tws as consumables to be bought after 2-3 year
I'm not the type of guy to like buying stuff every 2-3 years so this might be a skip. Though I love wireless things so it could be excused.

>>105846038
We will all be dust in the glass desert in three years, so I wouldn't worry too much.
Besides 3 years for something you can get for 25 bucks seems fine to me. I would be better if they survived for a lifetime, but at least the price is right.
Heard it's pretty easy to replace batteries in the Sony XM series.

>>105845357
>MMCX
Grim.
Fucking hate that connector with a passion. And the comfiest set I have uses it.

tl;dr nostalgia is a real cancer.

>>105844057
If sound quality and latency is not your priority then yes.

The most trustworthy aliexpress listing
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005009273204868.html

>Lucky Bag Blind Boxes In Ear Monitor Wired Headphones, IEM Earphone Upgrade Cables, Lucky Order, Random Rewards
>Each Lucky Box is packed with handpicked audio gears and guaranteed to be worth more than what you pay!
https://nicehck.com/products/nicehck-blind-boxes-in-ear-monitor-headphones-and-iem-earphone-upgrade-cables-lucky-order-random-rewards?utm_source=Growave&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=referral_program&utm_content=aduakndNfU&ref=aduakndNfU&referralContext=eyJzZW5kZXJJZCI6IkhFVngzVVBtbklrRGNzOW5qK1RWUUVaT0o5RT0ifQ%3D%3D
Has anybody ever bought one of these mystery boxes?

>>105846438
Grim indeed. If my beloved IEMs didn't use MMCX, I would already have a good cable I could use. Investing into anything MMCX-related is my only regret in audio, but at the same time, my favorites use this shitty-ass connector. That's why I'm glad the replacement cable only cost me $11. If I find it in me someday to sell these things, the replacement IEMs will be 2-pin and nothing else.

>>105846583
miss my clip zip like you wouldn't believe. I wish changs would make rockboxable clone of it.

>>105847261
Replied to you in the other thread, almost every thing listed as a "prize" can be bought for around 6 bucks without any discounts.

im bored of my 3 iems so now I want to add 2 more sets to my rotation

I'm going to grab a TWS on prime day. Is the Nothing Ear (2024) worth almost twice as much over the or Liberty 4? I guess the EarFun Air Pro 4 was mentioned too but the app has shit reviews mentioning lots of bugs. Soundcore and Nothing apps seem more solid.

>>105847750
Buy the cheapest set you can find, use it exclusively for a week and you come back crawling to your current rotation. And for a low low price of like three bucks.

>>105847790
Just don't use the app? Or delete it after setting up everything to your liking? I had my Space Travels for almost two years now and never once it even crossed my mind to download their mystery meat chink app.

>>105847820
I use the app for multi device swapping a lot but regardless of that is there a reason to get the EarFuns over those anyway?

>>105847845
No idea about Earfun, but my Nothing Ear (1) has a very bad nozzle clogging problem, and it's not just me, you can find enough people over the internet with the same issue. But other than that I really like them. The slim case is nice to lug around in the pocket, the sound is very decent, ANC is serviceable, and swipe to adjust volume is genius -- I think they might've removed that in a newer version. Also it doesn't have any voiceovers, just beeps which I appreciate.
Highly subjective, but they're among the best fitting IEMs I've ever owned.

I got a pair of TANCHJIM ZERO and I really like the sound, especially when using eq.
My big gripe is the nozzle is way too big, even with the skinniest tips they fall out way too often.
I wear glasses so over ear cable is a no go.
I'm looking for some IEMs that sound similar to the zero's, have a smaller nozzle so they fit deeper, and have a swappable cable because the zero's fixed cable will break eventually.
I bought all the tools and materials to do an ear impression with silicone and i want to make my own mold of my ear to make custom tips for them, maybe that makes the nozzle size less relevant but i don't wanna waste time and effort on the zero's, I would some more suitable IEMs for this project.
I don't think I'm too fussy with sound desu.
I asked this before and were recommended Thruthear Gate and 7Hz x Crinacle Zero :2.
Both of those seem to have almost the same nozzle sizes as the TANCHJIM ZERO, also both have overear cables.
The TANCHJIM ONE seem like they're what i want - bullet style cable downwards, swappable, and probably sound close to the ZEROs, but the nozzle is apparently again on the big side around 6.4mm?
I would like some ~5mm nozzle or something. Idk.
Anon please advise. I don't even know what nozzle sizes are common and there seems to be no real standard?

>>105842088 (OP)
>needs a $1k mp3 player to listen to gook harlots wail over hyper compressed slop music

>>105847946
I think maybe thats why so many niggas dont believe in technicalities, their god abysmal music taste

https://youtu.be/_LyjLyvfQE4?si=_F2azmhxNCf-qjpJ

>>105847904
I dug out my caliper specially for you.
Nozzle diameters:
Tanchjim Zero -- 6.6mm
7hz Zero2 -- 6.5mm (it's also over-ear, so not sure why you mentioned it in the first place)
Tanchjim Tanya -- 5.9mm (but non-removable cable)
Now I've got something cool for you:
Yu9 U554 -- 3.5mm
And by extension the same nozzle diameters will be used on:
Yu9 404
Yu9 ER4B
Etymotic ER2/3/4

>>105847904
I also measured the rest of the bullet style ones I own (NiceHCK X39, Tangzu Princess Chan Le, Moondrop Quarks, and a secret fourth one) -- they all are 5.9mm. and beleieve me, those .6mm could make a real difference. And while they don't have removable cables, they all are so cheap that you can buy a couple of spares and don't worry about it.
Also you can try ordering SS tips, they're usually not included.

>>105847967
>>105848027
Thanks for that information!
I'm not too sure what to do with it.
The 3.5mm options seem very expensive, and the 5.9mm ones seem to all have fixed cables?

>>105848050
If I were you, I would do this.
1. Order an SS size tips to see if the help with Zeroes
2. If not, try any of 5.9mm options even with a non-removable cable -- again, they're cheap.
3. If that also doesn't work, save up for an ER2XR or Yu9 ER4B.
4. Even if that isn't an option, you can go either the custom IEM route (very expensive), or use headphones.

>>105848027
>NiceHCK X39, Tangzu Princess Chan Le, Moondrop Quarks, and a secret fourth one
tell the 4th one!

>>105848161
It seems you didn't really read my post. I wrote in my first post that I do want to do custom tips myself, hence why I don't want a fixed cable.
I already did some experiments and it's quite a bit of effort to get well-fitting and good looking custom silicon molded pieces, so I don't want to even try for an IEM that has a fixed cable that can break.
I already tried very skinny tips on the ZEROs which folded back onto the IEM adding basically only the material thickness of the tip itself, and they're WAY too big.
I think I'll try molding tips onto some TANCHJIM ONE's and see if i can get them deep enough into the custom mold to sound good.

Sigh. All I want is:

- bullet
- ~5mm or smaller nozzle
- replacable cable
- reasonable price

Apparently that's not really something that exists for some reason.

Ordered from HifiGo to EU it's been at "Origin Facility" for 6 days now. Says shipping should take 1-3 weeks with 2 weeks average. They also made a virtual order of lower declaration for customs inspection. Is this normal should I just wait and contact them after 3 weeks if it doesn't arrive? It's through YunExpress

>>105848261
I read your post, but also tried to align my advice with reality.
If you're going DIY custom road, saving up a hundo for a decent set doesn't seem too outrageous.

New FiiO brand Jiezi A ( 3.5mm ) and Jiezi B ( 4.4mm ) both with app support and ** 10 band peq **, ADC upto 16/44 and DAC upto 32/384 DSD 256.
The Jiezi B will be available for 99 yuan/14$, discount down to 89 yuan or 12.5$, the Jiezi A will be released later

>>105848424
just chill and wait for now. they're pretty reliable and experienced, it should get to you no problems

>>105848615
wu kong lookin ahh dong

>>105847319
lil bro really tried to sneak us with a referral link. do not click

Truthear is better than Tanchjim.

>>105847261
I remember some anons buying a lucky package before. They all got the same cheap cable or whatever. Don't expect good odds from the chang.

>>105848873
Rabbit whore released pure trash and is now seeking attention with bad bait, why even bother...

hey without sperging out, do i get the Hexa right now or the Pure? is the pure not worth the extra 20 it since the hexa exists? or is it the other way around. and which one has the better cable? between these 2, don't recommend me another one please.

>>105848929
>between these 2
why do you want dogshit or new dogshit? pure has a better cable.
>without sperging out
we're telling you the truth. if you like any appreciable amount of bass or are seeking some kind of "upgrade in perceived technicalities," both are utter wastes or your money. if you want to be shilled on a product, you've already yielded to that, clearly.

>>105848929
hexa is thinner and looks better somehow, pure is thicker and looks like pure shit
hexa has no bass, pure is most likely too warm for most
just get whatever is cheapest and use eq

>>105848873
better at making mud pos

>>105848929
always go with the fotm

Is there any way of getting global EQ to work on Android? Wavelet, Poweramp EQ and JamesDSP will only work for some apps.
What a god awful operating system

>>105849123
poweramp eq has a new experimental global eq setting but it's better to buy a dsp dongle, there are plenty now

>>105849147

bump >>105842944

>>105845001
Surfans F20 is $100 instead of $120 even if its not an official "prime day" sale

Should i get the Earfun Free Pro 3 for 32 yurobux or should i spend more and get something else?
How is the mic quality for outdoor calling?
I had the Soundpeats Free 2 Classic and they were ok soundwise, not great. But the mic was abysmal for anything but the quietest indoor room.
Is there anyway to use the microphone on the phone while valling over the TWS or is it some app exclusive feature?

>>105849235
hard to help if we don't know exactly where the pressure points are
wyverns are surprisingly thick for a 1dd, definitely not the best in that department

>>105849147
It still refuses to work.
Should add that even the inbuilt OEM Dolby audio EQ won't apply as well.
They'll all a work for most apps except a few like Firefox or UAPP.
>it's better to buy a dsp dongle, there are plenty now
Do they support arbitrary filtering or are they still restricted to basic 5 band PEQ?
Last I checked only the qudelix 5k has more than 10 bands.

>>105849295
Do they support arbitrary filtering or are they still restricted to basic 5 band PEQ?
tanchjim stargate 2 and jm20 pro both support 8-band (only peak filters)
>>105848615 apparently 10-band now but if you need more than 10 band you should buy a better pos

>>105842944
>>105849235
they are on the larger side for 1dd universal iems, and you have unique ear anatomy. if you feel pressure point even after adjusting fit angle / tilt, then that's your reality. they're not comfy in your ears, try a different model

>>105849260
using this as reference: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Gray904.png
I'd say the Tragus is pressed outwards and the Concha is pressed backwards in direction of the Anti-Helix.

simgot ea500 or epz q1 pro?

>>105848424
Yes emailing them never hurts. Their customer service is good but theyre kind of sloppy, they may have just forgotten about your order.

>>105849334
you're probably right, they are simply incompatible with my ears.

Did I get a dud Hifiwalker H2 or is the scroll wheel supposed to be super difficult to actually move?

>>105849551
No, also why did you buy that pos?

Still looking for upgrade/replacement to picrel.

>>105849430
q1 pro can give you better techs due to faceplate customization, while the ea500 only microscratches

Is there a way to connect 2 iems simultaneously to my pc and eq them separately?

>>105849609
ipod classic with ssd, battery, and rockbox mod

>>105849648
just buy 2 dongles and set a different output device on eqapo for each eq

>>105849593
I wanted a dap with physical buttons and a scroll wheel w/ usb dac support

> HiBy R1
> Hifi Walker H2
> Surfans F20

which of these is the best? they're all roughly the same price on amazon right now

>>105849785
eh, R1 has the better audio architecture and performance metrics, but not by much.
i'd say m300 is more worth it, but up to you

>>105849785
they're basically all the same in terms of sound quality and battery life
You can install Rockbox OS on Hifi Walker & Surfans whereas you're stuck with the default HiBy OS on the R1 which you may or may not like.

It's pretty much just whether you want a touchscreen device or a device with buttons instead

>>105849785
Hiby, other two are trash.

>>105849785
Erm you shouldn't buy the Surfans F20 because it hisses like crazy on even your average budget 1DD explicitly when playing nothing and this is a problem because well, it just is okay, gweilo? So you're better off spending $500 + PedoCheetoHitlerEnforced tariffs on Android OS DAPs with all the bloat still intact. Hope this helps.

Is there any reason to buy some IEMs when I already own a good pair of headphones and need ANC whenever I leave the house?

>>105849911
If you're happy with what you have then there's no point in going down a rabbithole that is often times expensive.

>>105842571
literally made by a company called pinis tec

>>105849785
Tempotec V1 is also ok.
Fiio Echo Mini is not bad but really annoying to navigate.

>>105849911
no hair matting, smaller.

>>105849818
>>105849841
>>105849883
>>105849984
What the actual onions are you retards doing?! Why are recommending him this garbage?! Are you sadistic assholes just trying to make him hate music or something?!! I bet all of these recommendations hiss explicitly when you're not playing music which is extremely fucking problematic!

Are 3.5 to usb-c dongles more annoying than getting a phone with a jack? Do they come out easily?

>>105849911
IEMs are comfortable as you don't have the bulk of headphones on your head/neck for prolonged periods of time. They don't mess up your hair. They have lower energy demands, whether to sound good or even function properly at all. That said, if you're just casually listening to shit and absoluyely need ANC, then getting some TWS buds with high quality ANC is arguably your best bet.

>>105850021
I've never had hardware issues with a 3.5mm to type-C dongle. The only issue us Samsung bricking compatibility with them on their various phone models through firmware updates. It's an issue with a lot of anecdotal evidence going back many years now. This same phone I'm using used to work with dongle dacs, but no longer does.

>>105850008
rent free

>>105847904
I think the KZ ED9 pro is about 5mm, I'll need to measure when I get home from work

It's very good, the only downside is the cable is fixed, but it has proven to be more durable than the old model

And none of you bigots fucking care to see what's going on here?! Are you blind?! This poor anon >>105849785 is being recommended hissy DAPs that hiss explicitly when you're not playing music! Why are you people so cruel!?

What happens when he buys your average budget 1DD instead of the splendid Dynaquattro? Guess what? It will hiss! Explicitly when you're not playing music which is almost as bad if not worse than Orange Hitler stealing the vote from Kamala! SHAME!

It wasn't funny the first time which is why you got no replies, and it continues to somehow get even less funny the more posts you make.

>>105850160
Who exactly are you talking to?

honest opinions on airpods 4 and airpods pro 2?
also how do they compare to most of the stuff that is recommended in this general such as epz, simgot, truthear, kz, Tanchjim, tripowin, kiwiears etc.

>>105850214
both good, ap4 are earbuds tho, so different altogether. both ap4 and app2 are tuned to be inoffensive, they sound good and as a complete product, they are way ahead of what is talked about here

>>105850214
use them if you're an itoddler normie, they're fine.
comparing wireless to wired like that is irrational.

>>105850188
Ignore him, probably another schizo faggot trying to derail the thread.

uh oh hisszo melty

>>105850008
I don't listen to it when it's not playing music so no problemo

>>105850464
He's a real oddball. I've listened to my Surfans and the hiss isn't even that bad desu, but he treats it like the hiss shot his dog or something.

end
game

tots on Nixhifi M@K94 ?

>>105849430
ea500lm used and you hit the value to performance box hard. honestly you asked a dumb question, because you should get both. epz for the custom faceplate, and lm for dd monster priced great

>eq guide endless pages on how to fix treble resonances
>reddit1990 break it down in a few sentences
Holy shit!

>>105850538
hisszo...

>>105850666
Nobody's falling for your gaslighting, Satan.

>>105850703
its not that deep hisszo calm down

>>105850659
it's not that easy
also ear resonance Q is not 2 at all

>>105842088 (OP)
>>PMPs:
my shanling m0 pro has a broken jack where if i move the cable it disconnects stooping the audio playback, would not recommend shanling.

ordered cheap buttplug-shaped triple flanges from amazon in order to join team flangezo

>>105850740
>for example
it's not set in stone, but it's much easier to find the problem with this method, and if you want to be a surgical bitch just adjust the Q accordingly

does anyone here have a tanchjim fission? how is it compared to truth ear hexa?

>>105850731
You have no clue what you're inserting yourself into, idiot.

I wonder what a DD version of pr2 would look like at the same price, like what the advantages and trade offs would be

>>105850977
edc pro

>>105850941
fission is much better for having a modular cable with DSP and lipped nozzles, so the eartip won't fall off from the nozzle like the hexa

>>105851036
are fission filters easier to clean than hexa

>>105850956
im inserting myself into your mom

>>105851114
Yeah, just swap out for a new one. Hexa you can only replace 2 knowles dampers. If the bass hole gets clogged, you won't be able to clean it without a succ tool

>>105850977
the pr2 does nothing special, so the dd version would be nothing special

Fellow autismos
I am going to Shanghai and other cities in China in December. What chinkshit PMPs should I be on the look out for?
Something in the $300 USD range

>>105850861
you'll break your ears trying to find short band peak that way
especially if you don't know what to listen for

>>105851322
ok keep torturing yourself with sweeps

Show of (You)s who read the EQ guide?

>>105851542
>Just Read the EQ Guide bro
>EQs Bunny According To The Guide
>Sounds Terrible

>>105851141
Psssh yeah right. Real mature, kid. Grow up. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to investigate this thumping sound that keeps happening in my mother's room for some inexplicable reason.

>>105851308
$300 is an arbitrary cap. if you want to step up, i'd put ibasso dx180 at the top of the list. if that's too rich, stick to budget stuff $200 and less, they're perfectly adequate.

>>105851611
That's still less than what I spent on ammo this 4th of July lmao. I wonder if it'll be cheaper to purchase over there considering the USD to Yuan exchange rate

>>105850582
Who would buy something with a dude on the box?

>>105851597
>even more bass than harman

>>105851711
>harman
>good bass
pick one

>>105851597
that's retarded
here the actual EQ if you have a brain

>>105851597
Show the line that told you to fuck up the treble like that.

>7 posts in a row showing nobody actually reads that piece of garbage "guide"
CHRIST ALMIGHTY
remove it from the op already you fucking cunts

>>105852007
there's literally nothing wrong with the EQ guide

>>105852007
Calm down deafzo.

>>105852064
>>105851597

>>105848439
>If you're going DIY custom road, saving up a hundo for a decent set doesn't seem too outrageous.

It's not about having the money or saving up money.
I'm physically incapable of giving jews money they do not deserve.

>>105852073
kys, your guide is shit and nobody cares
suck my left nut

>>105852111
Remove yourself from the gene pool.

>>105851711
Harman has no bass.

>>105852137
remove the ""guide"" from the op and existence first

>>105851597
>5128
Bruh

>>105852081
how is this guide's fault?

>>105852183
the guide literally gives those values and anon is showing how fucked up it is
not only is the """guide""" useless and convoluted, it's written by a deaf retard

>>105852200
>the guide literally gives those values
Nigga....

>>105852200
If you think EQ means grabbing a preset online you should read the EQ guide.

>>105852256
eqzo is deaf and cannot be trusted

>>105852267
You didn't even read the section you're posting screenshots from. Do it now.

>>105852267
>newfags don't know about the 6000 hz techs formula
NGMI

Nigzo can't read. It causes him physical pain from his single braincell reaching melting point.

>tangzu sancai noble released
>literally no mentions of it
bunch of sloths in this thread

I feel like buying the Surfans F28 because of Prime Day. Just wanted to ask first if anyone's had any prior experience with it before? I hear it gets loud and has 512gb of expandable storage. The downside is there being a touchscreen, but at least it is big enough for album art.

>>105852332
>the orange ones are XS
pass

Are any of the MMCX/2-Pin bluetooth adapters worth using or do they all have the same issues with dogs dogshit sound quality and noise floor?

>>105852371
foxzo, embrace the deep insertion and absorb flangezo's and insertzo's power level

>>105852376
Potentially ifi go pod but I haven't tried it personally. It's using cs43131.

>>105852365
go with pmps from better chink audio companies: shanling, fiio, hiby, etc.
surfans f20 is only ever brought up because you can install rockbox. the f28 loses out on that and is mystery meat (read as: terrible) chink UI/UX with a litany of software and audio issues / bugs that will plague your listening experience.

>>105852386
>$400

Whew. Good to see they at least trying to make improvements to the TWS technology though, hopefully there will be reasonably priced models in the future.

>>105852376
FiiO UTWS5, it even has 10 band PEQ.

>says he read the guide
>gets called out by the people that read the guide
>says nobody reads the guide
What is this mental illness called?

it's apparent you faggots don't really like anything besides what you're told to like. worst case of stockholm syndrome I've seen

Techs evaporate when the pos has been out from its original package for some minutes. The only way to enjoy technicalities long-term is to constantly consume new product. Be sure to check for new Tanchjim releases!

>>105852483
In utws5 the noise floor scales with the volume set inside the app. It can reach quiet levels but you sacrifice a lot of power.

>>105852544
So true.
Another way is keeping the Tanchjim Scent card with your Tanchjim products in the Tanchjim pouches and cases. That way you can smell our Queen, and the scent card acts like a silica gel packet!

>>105849726
Works like shit with IEMs. Very noisy.

imagine if eqzo does a case study with the q1 pro and it's just fox target
just thinking of this betrayal hurts

>>105852544
Just recharge your techs at the monolith.

>>105852103
Good thing they are chinks and not jews.
All in all I feel like you want to beat around the bush and not solve your issue. Good luck.

Buy Space Travel 2

>>105852707
no
the first ones dont get anywhere close to loud

>>105852724
ARE YOU DEAF?

>>105852732
Brother, I'm literally using bluetooth.

>>105852732
no, your cheap bluetooth shit just sucks chang

Anons, I might be medically retarded and slept through my physics classes in the school, but explain to me this: the frequency of the sound I hear is related to the frequency of the sound source movement, the faster it flaps, the higher the pitch; that part I know. What kind of magic is responsible for the loudness? Amplitude? So how far does the source move every cycle? Or what?

>>105852802
>Amplitude?
yes
>So how far does the source move every cycle? Or what?
yes

>>105852802
>>105852809
well actuallly it depends, but in general yes. when increasing loudness, or sound pressure level (SPL), you increase the pressure; there are many ways to achieve this, including how far the source moves.

>>105852793
You can call me whatever you want, and I'm not making any claims about their sound, build or ANC quality, but I never felt the need to go over 60% of volume with OG SP in the last two years of use.
So I diagnose you with being deaf and my condolences.

>>105852802
The sound is changing air pressure. The frequency is how often the pressure changes, the volume is the magnitude of pressure. The magnitude of pressure is distance times surface.

Should I buy my triple flange eartips in black or white, sistas?

>>105852970
black, duh

>>105852896
>distance times surface
Bigger driver at the same amplitude -- more loud, correct?

this is why i never go into the details
good luck explaining everything anon, godspeed

>>105852984
Yeah. Don't take it as bigger driver means higher sensitivity though. Tons of things affect sensitivity.

>>105853070
No, just in the perfect conditions, without considering sensitivity and all that.

I'M BACK, LET'S GET THE SHOW ON THE ROAD!
*No cooler pos included, I'm not doing all that work for one anon.
Price in ($USD with sales*), [driver configuration]
IEMs:
>Tanchjim Fission ($130) [1DD]
It's out, two versions, 12 tuning options, same old shell.
Comes in two colors, different tunings
>Tanchjim x Effect Audio Force ($280) [2DD]
Graphs available. It looks cool.
>Moondrop Space Travel 2 ($30) [1DD]
New successor to the widely acclaimed Space Travel
>Shanling Regal ($780) [2DD + 4BA + 2mPL]
Really dig the bezel/contour of the faceplate. Small difference but it looks striking.
>Kinera Celest Wyvern Black Remaster ($32) [1DD]
Another day, another Wyvern.
>Xenns Mangird Top Pro ($500) [2DD + 8BA]
It's out, and you've seen it.
>Truthear Pure ($90) [1DD + 3BA]
SO UGLY, they could've just made the logo smaller and it would be ok.
>Dunu Vulkan 2 ($360) [2DD + 6BA]
Some of the promo pics show the Vulkan lettering upside down lol. Also, weird tuning.
>Colorfly Silver Reference ($150) [3DD]
Looks weird.
>Sivga Que UTG ($100) [1DD]
Looks nice but that tuning will fry your hearing instantly.
>Moondrop Harmon ($350) [3DD]
Meh.
>Softears Studio 2 ($170) [2BA]
Somehow, the SE215 are better.
>Twistura Woodnote ($170) [1DD]
Not bad.
>Punch Audio Martilo ($330) [2DD + 2BA + 1PL
Another Linsoul brand.
>Rumaudio Blues ($200) [4BA]
Tuned decently well, but be careful as this is a new brand.
>NiceHCK Rockies ($500) [1DD + 2BA + 2EST]
Their flagship that actually has a good tuning for once.
>Roseselsa Photon Pro ($18) [1DD]
Another budget bullet option with removable cable.
>Myer-Audio Sliivo SL224 ($270) [2DD + 2BA + 4mPL]
Graphs available, looks decent.
>Dunu DN 142/242 ($?) [?]
Deez nuts lmao. Demos, no clue about anything else.
>Juzear x Z Reviews Defiant ($100) [1DD]
People really like this one, seems generic tho.
>Kefine Quatio ($130) [2DD + 2BA]
Definition of meh.

>>105853323
>Tanchjim Zero Ultima ($15) [1DD]
Successor to the Zero.
>Dunu DK-3001 BD ($500) [1DD + 4BA + 4PL]
Massive.
>QoA Martini ($600) [1DD + 4BA + 1BC]
It's an IEM.
>INTUAURA Uniqueness ($300) [1DD + 4BA]
Uniquely tuned, and by that I mean like shit.
>Thieaudio Monarch MKIV ($1150) [2DD + 6BA + 2EST]
Another one. I'm betting that they will do a MKV, then pivot to the Monarch [something] line.
>HeartField CU8 ($280) [4BA]
The shell looks really nice, and the tuning is not half bad.
>Letshuoer DX1 ($160) [1DD]
No.
>Tripowin Ruta10 ($20) [1DD]
It's in the OP.
>EPZ K9 ($300) [1DD + 8BA]
I love the design, and tuning looks good.
>Kinera Celest Yaksha ($140) [2DD + 1BA + 1mPL]
Looks pretty decent.
>Hisenior Cano Cristales ($400) [2DD + 8BA]
Now this is a V-shape.
>Moondrop Pill ($50) [1DD]
Which pill are you taking anon?
>Astrotec Archimedes ($130) [1PL]
It's weird.
>ddHifi x Moondrop Surface ($280) [1DD + 4BA]
Finally out.
>Kiwi Ears Astral ($300) [1DD + 6BA]
New meta.
>Kiwi Ears Aether ($170) [1PL]
Another planar.
>Kiwi Ears Étude ($120) [1DD + 3BA + 1VT]
Vibration transducer like with the Konoka. Looks so ugly holy shit.
>Ziigaat Lush/Luna/Odyssey/Arete/Arcadia/Arcanis/Crescent
Fuck this shit I'm not doing it for every single one.
>"Obscure" brands (INTUAURA, CKLVX, XINHS, QoA, Tiandirenhe, LUN SHENG, FLOAUDIO, etc)
I can't do it for all of them, sorry :(
>TRN, KZ, CCA, CVJ, ND, HiBy, etc
You know the drill, not posting any of these. As always, beware of KZ/CCA stealth revisions.

>>105853332
DAC/Amps/Accessories
>DSP Dongles
So many DSP dongles and sources, and they are also mostly rocking the CS43131/43198 chips so that's very nice.
>Liquid Silicone, Metal bits, and more
A lot of affordable liquid silicone tips were released, same thing with weird metal containing tips whether it be in the bore, on an inverted tip, or a small nipple

News and events:
>Sound Reproduction 4th Edition
Pre-orders already out! Hopefully someone can scan this one.
>EQ guide completion?
Seems like EQ guide anon is finished with the bulk of it, congratulations to them!
>YU9 5128 clone coupler?
YU9 audio is currently working on replicating the 5128 system.
>BA Driver expansion measurements by anons
Loved that thread, very insightful and cool.
>PEQdB target shootout
Not much to say.

>>105853323
The fuck? Are these even for humans?
>>105848261
Look, cheap bullets with a removable cable: >>105853332

>>105853323
>Softears Studio 2 ($170) [2BA]
>Somehow, the SE215 are better.
Yume4sisters, in context it's not that bad...
>NiceHCK Rockies ($500) [1DD + 2BA + 2EST]
>Their flagship that actually has a good tuning for once.
If that manufacturer graph is real, then guaranteed they outsourced the majority of design and tuning to a more competent OEM like the people behind Kiwi Ears/Linsoul or Dunu/Myer (smartly so, because their usual bozos would have effed it up).

Still enjoying my Surface.
Quatio on the way.

>>105853323
>Sivga Que UTG ($100) [1DD]
remembers this Que but forgets Yu9 Audio Que desu
>>105853412
>If that manufacturer graph is real
cringy measured it and the tilt leans too bright to please JM-1 trannies

I put a small strip of a glow in the dark tape on the right bud of my flatheads so I can distinguish between left and right in the dark. I am so smart. No one in this thread is smarter than me.

>>105852365 (me)
Fuck it I just bought the Shanling H2. You need an app to modify how it plays off your sd card but Shanling says it's default behavior is to play folder by folder, which is fine by me as I like to listen to albums in full.

>>105853463
Yu9 has the best logo out of all these chifi mfgs. Unironically love it.

>>105853483
bro wtf... that thing is a half-assed player for full player price. why?

>>105853483
>DAP with no screen or proper control over playback
But why tho? Do you miss Zishan times?
>first half a second to a second of each song is cut
Jesus.

TRI Draco came in. Holy fuck what happened?

>>105853615
kbear tri special sauce (extra pos version)

>>105853615
that's that soundstage baka

Are these typa tips legit or just a meme?
They said it preserved your ear drums by lowering decibles without muffling the sound.

>>105854236
they can be highly uncomfortable.
that is a bunch of nonsense words. if you listen to loud volume, it's still loud volume.

Rating for Sennheiser hd660s2 + fiio m21 ?

>>105854314
>headpos
>dap
H.L.

Any decent tips for isolation on Amazon Sweden or AliExpress? I'm thinking either something with flanges or foam. My buddy in Sweden has big ear holes and needs big nigga eartips with enough isolation to block out noise directly beside him.

NEW PROJEKTS

>>105854470
utter zogchow

>>105853615
The channel matching isnt concerning as thats just leakage, but that FR is. Post more?

>>105853615
>Holy fuck what happened?
You fell for the retard shitposting.
>>105854314
Solid 0/10.

>>105855744
>You fell for the retard shitposting.
We all do

>>105855742
>leakage
I don't think so, I measured it with other tips and its still bad. That being said my unit is absolutely honkmaxxed with retarded 2K response unlike yours, maybe it got KZ'd.

>>105855809
Thank you for experimenting for us anon, this certainly adds a lot of value to the general

>>105853615
Can you show you actually bought the draco and arent a griefer

>>105855803
this looks much fucking better than tridraco shit

>>105857136
Then get truthear gate, much better channel matching

>buy HE400se
>my neck hurt like hell
fucking retarded chinks holy fuck nigga is heavy as fuck

>>105857312
Lmao, look at this pencilneck. Hit the gym before fucking headphones incapacitate you for life.

Recent purchase.
Tripowin cable for my Blessing 2.
Space Travel 2 for gym.
It's nice that both fit in the pouch.

>>105857310
shit shell and shit transparent faceplate are dealbreakers

im tired of dealing with apps that either have a trial period or have terrible UI to use for my music. is it worth it to get an old ipod and mod it with bluetooth etc?
>>105850560
are these worth it? I wanted to get the green ones cause its my favorite color.

>>105853367
>>>105848261
>Look, cheap bullets with a removable cable: >>105853332

Which ones specifically?

>>105857732
>Roseselsa Photon Pro ($18) [1DD]
>Another budget bullet option with removable cable.

>>105857648
>worth
Check out their prices first, bucko. It's not 2016 anymore.

>>105857467
how does space travel 2 sound?
did they actually improve the normie features like app support and anc/transparency?

>>105842088 (OP)
Why the fuck is there a general for this? Can't you just like, put your phone in your pocket and use Bluetooth headphones or earbuds? Why do you need some retarded portable music player from 2003?

Is ED9 Pro a real thing? I mean it is, I'm holding a pair in my hand right now, but why aren't they on the KZ website? And I can't find any reviews aside from a couple in the gazette, everything else (and KZ website) only for original ED9.

>>105855809
>>105853615
Can you post your unit or is this ruskie bait

>>105858333
Looking through my Ali orders I remembered that I had an ED2 (and we are up to 9 Pro now) way back in 2017. Knurled metal shell was the shit.

>>105858163
The anc works, but I can't tell how they compare to other wireless. The isolation even with the biggest tip isn't that great to begin with, but I notice the noise reduction.
The transparency makes everything sound like it went through a highpass filter, it's weird but you can hear people talking clearly still, so it does its job.

I jut picked them because it was 30 bucks, I don't plan on using those features.
Audio is okay considering the price.

>>105858405
I would imagine ANC being a useful feature in the gym, no?

>>105855809
>>105855803
Hold up, these two graphs are suspiciously similar.

>>105858369
I think you are on to something

>>105858580
This rusnigger just measured his foxpiss with no filters and thought we wouldnt notice kek

>>105858440
if you visit a nigger gym only

Rusniggers: not even once

>>105858777
Go back to /pol/ you horrendeous troon.

>>105858777
This is undeniable proof that the foxfaggot is mentally ill

>>105858405
Thanks
I’m tempted to pick up either these or the cmf buds 2a which are on sale for cheap just for convenience

Lmao, now I'm definitely ordering draco.

>>105854236
good triple flanges for cheap and by that I mean really cheap - 4 sets of 3 sizes (12 pairs in total) for cheaper than one pair of spinfits cp240 and arguably better than them, at least for me
in short, they boost the bass and smoothen out the treble

Why does JBL use stupid proprietary tips
>just buy good IEMs
shit gets destroyed at work, metal filings get in and junk, I don't buy good gear for work.

>>105859037
lol just buy EDC pro then

>>105859045
>EDC pro
Can't, wired.
Wires get chewed up and they don't really seal well with earmuffs.
BT only at work unfortunately (which is a problem itself, the amount of times I've dropped a damn earbud into a pile of carbon dust, wires at least contained that, but the earmuff problem is more dire)

>tiny russian hands doctored these measurements

You can keep sliding the thread with pretend conversations ivan, but this is getting posted in every thread from now on

>>105850076
>>105848261
I confirm that the ED9 pro balanced nozzle is 5mm. I believe the original model had a larger one.
It can be very tip sensitive to get the right fit and not fall out of the ears, but they are pretty narrow in general.

It doesn't seem to have the corrosion issue that the old model had.

>>105858333
Aliexpress only afaik. The old model was sold on Amazon and these are not stocked outside of China.
Not sure if these are honestly worth it anymore because of tariffs, but the asking price is still very cheap.

>>105853538
It has a screen, just a small one. I've never owned a Zishan player, but I saw the Z1 and thought I'd want something like that if I couldn't find a touchscreen dap that I liked.

>every poster is Russian
>every janny is Russian
>every IEM is fox IEM
>20000-30000 civilians eaten
Decisive Z victory.

>>105858163
they give you 5-band peq, thats miles ahead of the competition at this price point

>>105858580
oh nonono he deleted the post that literally just says ''can you post your unit''

>>105859352
how can he foam at the mouth this hard?

>>105859333
>every IEM is Russian
fixed

>>105859367
Rusbum status: BTFO

which epz should I not blind buy and why?

>>105859671
TRI Draco

Trying to present one iem as another just to own someone in this thread is lowly and its why trusted reviewers are necessary in the first place.

>>105859068
space travel then it's also cheap as fuck

is Saint still shitposting?
because thanks.

Logitech G432 or Ozeino OW810?

>>105859683
shut up
>>105859914
gtfo

>>105859931
>he bypasses the western internet ban via VPN just to censor other people

>>105859968
>>105859968

>>105859873
why did you buy that pos..