Thread 105849531

Tor, what the actual fuck is going on:
>Almost ALL of the guard nodes are in NATO countries like Ingerland, Germany, Netherlands, France, Finland and the US
>3 relay families own more than a THOUSAND nodes (niggers like family:1D57EFEA3442E6(4chinz thinks this is spam, just delete this and the other parentheses)8993E7C21E7(nig)C1F350E8(fuckniggers)3BFFAF9, family:FC326586B78(nig)C91CE7199528B(kekerald)82163FD4FB(fuckthespamfilter)189D57(this one family has an 18% exit probability), and more than 600 nodes called "Quetzalcoatl" with the same contact info and has a 12% exit probability)
>Most of the time you get a circuit with Germany -> Random cunt -> Germany or Netherlands -> Random cunt -> Netherlands
This is it? It's ogre? Can snowflake proxies at least solve the circuit problem? (more than 100k snowflake proxies are active from the browser addon alone)

i knew tor was honeypot when it used fucking ddg as default search

>>105849531 (OP)
Tor is not a neutral technology but part of a strategy by Western intelligence agencies to control global communication channels.

The West condemns China’s Internet policies while itself operating massive surveillance systems under the guise of “anonymity.”

Once you start looking at tech from a geopolitics perspective, it all makes sense.

Oy vey, sanction this nigga and call him a Russian asset

>>105849531 (OP)
>4chinz thinks this is spam,
They dont want session spammers on their site

>>105849678
kek
>>105849688
I mean those niggers (along with the kik niggers) got a US lawmaker arrested

>>105849531 (OP)
I just want to be able to explore the fucking network without running into LE DRUGS || LE REDACTED, why the fuck are we still using this primitive 123.piss URL system, how the fuck am I supposed to get an idea of what the site is or contains? i2p won here

>>105849665
Wrong, Tor is how glowniggers push their drug trafficking for national strategic purposes.
It is built by glowniggers to work around glowniggers.
Otherwise, our society would unironically collapse with no mechanisms to work around our law. It would starve to death.
I know this sounds insane, but it's true.

But I have no doubt it's fucked because glownigger agencies probably don't universally acknowledge this internally, so there's probably some glownigger operations to sabotage this as much as there is to maintain and use it.

Welcome to hell.

>>105849722
4chan or TOR?

Long story short, we have a globalist intelligence system trying to destroy itself nowadays. So it probably has some functionality because of this.
But I wouldn't just assume that regardless.

>>105849665
This is pretty much a non-sequitar to the op post. He asked why a recent thing is happening and you started talking about how it is inherently compromised in a way that would make the recent thing pointless.

Btw, Nazi Germany would still exist if it had similar mechanisms to work around the law, but it didn't. So by 1944 things were getting bad because of enforced laws within the country. It was crippling everything in the country.

>>105849775
Some niggers on /b/ spammed glownigger kik and session groups filled with 'p and some absolute moron US bigshot uploaded his daughter there. There was a thread about it yesterday.

>>105849763
Why not both?

>>105849665
>>105849763
>>105849791
bots?

>anime pedo op
>complaining about privacy

every time

Look up "Cascading failure" and you will realise why law workarounds exist and why they also don't work, just like the law exist. State entropy.

>>105849826
You leave Sakura out of this, faggot.

>>105849826
sorry nigger, I'll post AMD vs Nvidia flamewar as OP next time, hope you'll enjoy it.

>>105849808
How do you sabotage sabotage?

>>105849820
No, but I have been thinking about this and why things like TOR existed all day and so I'm a little spooked by OP. see >>105849828

>>105849807
>US bigshot
Who?

>>105849871
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105831783/#q105831783
RJ May

>>105849849
I see no contradiction.

>>105849531 (OP)
based autist

>>105849882
absolute kino

>>105849531 (OP)
the best course of action for anonymity nowadays is hiding in plain sight

>>105850013
>just use google chrome (which is literally part of the PRISM program), hiding in le heckin plain sight!!
retard

>>105850013
same as 'always' then
precisely when that was depends on your geographical region

>>105849807
>have cute daughterwife at home
>still reaches out for 'p online
the greed of men exceeds all limits

>>105850041
retard

>>105850062
retard

>>105850067
retard

>>105850081
gorillanigger

>>105849807
>>105849882
hmm

>>105849531 (OP)
Allegedly the reason why so many tor nodes are in the US/Netherlands/Germany is because those countries are the only ones where people hosting those nodes have rights or legal protection or whatever but that sounds like a load of horseshit.
Glowies likely won't ever completely take down tor because they need it themselves, whenever intelligence agencies need to do cyberwarfare shit, tor gives them plausible deniability as they could just claim that it was independent users of tor and not themselves. If only glowies were using tor, they would lose that plausible deniability so they have to keep the technology public for strategic reasons.

>>105849882
Holy shit, I can't believe this guy was doing that shit on his work phone and laptop and from his home IP, then again neither politicians nor criminals (>implying there is a difference between the two) are known for being smart. Sometimes I think digital forensics sounds like a cool job but then I'm reminded that 90% of it will just be collecting evidence on child abusers.

>>105850364
stop. noticing.

>>105849722
>I mean those niggers (along with the kik niggers) got a US lawmaker arrested
the republican who got arrested wasnt using session, just kik and 4chan's b

>>105849807
>Some niggers on /b/ spammed glownigger kik and session groups filled with 'p and some absolute moron US bigshot uploaded his daughter there. There was a thread about it yesterday.
news article or link to discussion thread? I didn't hear anything about session?

>>105850640
it's true, you can't host nodes in other countries, reminds me of a friend of mine who was asking for help with something but a lot of the people that wanted to helped him couldn't because the internet law banned hosting and shit in other countries

>>105850706
here you go, lazy fuck >>105849882
also check the pinned post on /b/ now, before that (((incident))) there were daily "sesh"/ "letter S"/ Session and Kik threads with group links filled with 'p

>>105849531 (OP)
>>Almost ALL of the guard nodes are in NATO countries like Ingerland, Germany, Netherlands, France, Finland and the US
Mostly because those countries don't pursue Tor users and got the resources to donate them to that projects.
>>3 relay families own more than a THOUSAND nodes (niggers like family:1D57EFEA3442E6(4chinz thinks this is spam, just delete this and the other parentheses)8993E7C21E7(nig)C1F350E8(fuckniggers)3BFFAF9, family:FC326586B78(nig)C91CE7199528B(kekerald)82163FD4FB(fuckthespamfilter)189D57(this one family has an 18% exit probability), and more than 600 nodes called "Quetzalcoatl" with the same contact info and has a 12% exit probability)
Indeed a sad state
>>Most of the time you get a circuit with Germany -> Random cunt -> Germany or Netherlands -> Random cunt -> Netherlands
See my first statement.
The only real solution to this is switching over to I2P.

>>105849688
It's longer than an ID, wouldn't function since session IDs only work when starting with 05 (blinded IDs in communities use 15 instead) and 4chan doesn't automatically block a session ID.

>>105850739
they were obviously botted to shit too if you look in the archives, which glows.

>>105850739
>sesh"/ "letter S"/ Session
Those normally get banned fairly quickly. It was the same shit always anyway. The kik threads were allowed to stay up for days for some reason.

>>105850781
>The only real solution to this is switching over to I2P.
The theory behind i2p is nice, but it's almost empty, apart from a few imageboards (the big russian one has links to honeypots so don't click on them), invidious / redlib proxies, IRCs and blogs.
>Mostly because those countries don't pursue Tor users and got the resources to donate them to that projects.
>Germany
>Not pursuing Tor users
lol
I don't think you're baiting but just look up their cyber operations from 2021-2024, it's actually crazy

>>105850817
>for some reason

>>105850817
Yeah, after 150 replies they get removed kek

>>105850820
>, but it's almost empty,
Got that old internet feel all the zoomers are chasing. Also there's dread there
>I don't think you're baiting but just look up their cyber operations from 2021-2024, it's actually crazy
They're not pursuing entry node operators but mostly exit node operators and those who use Tor to post their tweets.

>>105850833
I don't like to theorize that kik is allowed to stay because it's encryption sucks as or isn't anonymous. Also from what I saw session users are a bit more on the nose.

>>105850834
I remember about a year ago when session threads immediately got you banned on soc. They slowly moved to /b/ and the quality got even worse.

>>105850859
>on the nose

opinion: any post about IM invites should get removed

>>105850859
nta but what encryption does kik even have
my understanding is that it's completely unencrypted

>>105850920
It was completely unencrypted, now it's e2ee but they hold the private keys so out of the eyes of whoever owns kik it's unencrypted. The feds claim that kik doesn't cooperate with them.

>>105849665
This poster is right.
Most goyjim only care about their muh web browsers and games while calling others 3rd worlders and Indians.

>>105850859
>They're not pursuing entry node operators but mostly exit node operators and those who use Tor to post their tweets.
Anon, they are not "pursuing entry node operators", they ARE the operators
See: OP post with the 3 node families
also, some german cohencidences:
https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-relay-country.html?start=2023-04-10&end=2024-11-09&country=de&events=off
https://www.bundesrat.de/SharedDocs/TO/975/erl/10.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=1
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41505419 (inb4 orange reddit)
https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/panorama/tor-netzwerk-100.html (translate it with jewgle)

>>105850968
I don't need to translate it. I know the articles. They are not pursuing entry node operators in a systematic fashion that would justify the claim they are. They're mostly focused on exit nodes operators since that's easier to find out and if people are too scared to run exit nodes Tor will already be severely weakened.
I don't understand why you feel the need to even have this conversation. Move to I2P.

Is there any example when they caught someone who isn't
>tech illiterate
>doesn't run a huge pedo forum himself
>actually encrypts stuff
?
>>105849826
>Complains about the anime pedos on the anime pedo website

>>105851018
>>tech illiterate
>>doesn't run a huge pedo forum himself
>>actually encrypts stuff
Pompompurin but it could be argued he acted illiterate

>>105850997
>image, view same: 0 results
impressive photosho...
>1000003271.jpg
what an odd filename
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/81769589/#q81769823
what's up with these 10000*.jpg pictures popping up in the last few weeks?

>>105851035
>what's up with these 10000*.jpg pictures popping up in the last few weeks?
Probably from altchans that have a similar naming scheme

>>105851054
Well it must be a VERY popular altchan
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/10000%2A/start/2025-06-01/
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/filename/10000*/start/2025-06-01
>more than 10k images with this filenaming scheme in a month
>not crapple, androjeet, linux or windows naming scheme
>not sharty scheme (sharty has very long filenames by default)
(((coincidental))) purely

>>105849531 (OP)
>https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105802369
>https://cyberinsider.com/tor/
Similar thread

>>105851035
I literally just made the meme on an app on my phone

>>105851118
>(((coincidental))) purely
I feel like sophisticated psyops would just use another scheme but I don't know altchans well enough to comment on their naming schemes

>>105849882
that description of the video made my dick hard

>>105851145
interesting....
>>https://cyberinsider.com/tor/
>How hide your IP address when using Tor
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links to: https://cyberinsider.com/vpn/best/no-logs-vpn/
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AHHAHAHAHA BUY AN AD HOLY FUCK

>>105851217
Crazy how the o ly VPN that actually does what you want it to doesn’t spend any advertising money lol

>>105851217
>>No-logs claims have been verified by multiple third-party audits (comes with a 76% off coupon)
can't make this shit up

>>105851276
does putting your logo on trains and billboards not count as advertisement?
>captcha: PAYMW

>>105851276
To be fair they do mention mullvad as number 8 (inb4 it's honeypot, I know i know), but I was too lazy to paste it (and get filtered by the 4chinz spam filters)

>>105849763
Great perspective. TOR mostly made by the glowniggers to control and surveil the dark market, as we all know, they're the leaders of it. And when they're not the sellers, they just need to wait enough until they can seize other DNMs revenue in the name of justice.

There's nothing interesting in TOR anyway, just cp, drugs, honeypots, and scams.

Idk much about I2P, but it seems much better, but like TOR it isn't protected from malicious routers, and you glow when you use it.

When you meditate about this privacy networks and their deficiencies, you will understand that the most secure and private connection is the one E2E encrypted from the sender to the receiver without a way for a sniffer to suspect it, before preventing him from sniffing the metadata. When you use something like TOR, you're literally like a thief hiding his identify, but everyone can identify he's a thief.

>>105851217
Yeah, it seems like they're using this evidence to shill their VPNs (they're mostly all under the same holders). But the claims are mostly legit. To be honest, using a vpn is much better than using TOR (if you trust your VPN more than your ISP) at least you don't glow while using it.

>>105851306
>inb4 it's honeypot, I know i know
Elaborate. They claim (with what is supposedly evidence) that the german police raided their datacenters and found nothing. It's suspicious that they're in germany, but they don't look and act like other honeypots like nord and surfshark.

so someone has to say it right?
only pedofiles need true """anonimity"""
I have nothing to hide on my ssd, I don't veracrypt my shit, I don't have a "funny" 5TB folder and so on
>inb4 post immediately all your sensitive information like access to home banking and photos from the last year vacation
yeah-no, maybe I will when people will learn to argue not in adhominems

>>105851396
I just wanted to avoid unnecessary drama around mullvad, there are a few anti-mullvad and pro-mullvad schizos on /g/ that will spam unrelated stuff to the thread (happens fairly often)
Also they are swedish

>>105851412
>yeah-no, maybe I will when people will learn to argue not in adhominems
that's not an ad-hominem, retard. It's a legitimate counter argument, but you're somehow too stupid to understand it.

>>105851412
I need privacy / anonymity not because I'm a "nonce", but because my fucking goverment spies on my fucking local church, on a local football club, on literally everyone and they basically criminalised crypto a few days ago here. It's getting insane in Eastern Europe.

>>105851412
>>105851471
forgot link:
https://dailynewshungary.com/unauthorized-crypto-trading-criminalized/

>>105851471
>but because my fucking goverment spies on my fucking local church
>It's getting insane in Eastern Europe.
Anon they're just following their historic precedent.

>>105851364
>I just wanted to avoid unnecessary drama around mullvad, there are a few anti-mullvad and pro-mullvad schizos on /g/ that will spam unrelated stuff to the thread (happens fairly often)
I don't understand how schizos' behavior influence your decisions. Some people trust everything, and some dismiss everything, some follow the herd, and some contradicts it. and they're all false. You should investigate the truth itself, not what surrounds information.

>>105851412
You better not have any racist memes on your SSD either, it's only a matter of time before all western countries reach England/Germany levels of censorship

>>105849531 (OP)
Yeah, I also noticed that I'm ALWAYS connected through the US, Germany or Netherlands. How the fuck is this anonymous?

>>105851510
>Germany levels of censorship
Just don't publicly post insults

>>105851421
>It's a legitimate counter argument,
no it's not, the argument being made here is that you simply don't need anonimity as an average person
I obviously have zero incentive to not protect my identity from theft and so on, but that doesn't require anonimity, just don't be a retard and nobody will get access to your bank account, this is mostly for older people that fall for online scams
if you are a political dissident or a jouranlist or an activist in your country and there's a real risk for your life with the information that you have then it's an entirely different question
>>105851471
and?
don't do stupid shit and nobody will harm you, if you don't want to get spied on or something go live on some empty island in the middle of nowhere
most people are perfectly fine with mass surveillance and data collection because the benefits easily outweigh the negative aspects, the former allows the government to catch criminals and the latters grants them free usage of youtube and instagram or whatever else normies like, in this specific case you can just opt-out by simply not using the service
>>105851510
fine if such a law was made I will just delete my racist memes, now what?

>>105851505
Yeah, informative and unfortunate.
>>105851527
Misrepresenting or denying the holocoaster in Europe is strictly verboten.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_Holocaust_denial

>>105851556
>Misrepresenting or denying the holocoaster in Europe is strictly verboten.
Blame the westerners and ussr, they were the driving forces behind denazification.

>>105851554
>now what?
Laws can work retroactively also don't assume they won't slip this in through some nice sounding act

>>105850013
This. I remember a story about a spy who used a sport news website input forum to communicate in plain sight.

>>105851572
then I will have my jail time what else do you want to hear

>>105851583
That you maybe should advocate for both privacy and anonymity if you don't want to be subject to the whims of a newly elected government?

>>105851554
>don't do stupid shit and nobody will harm you
Might work in fairyland, I live in a prison country.
>most people are perfectly fine with mass surveillance
no we're are not, we (and neighbor countries too) protested against such measures, but we had a thing you americans might call "blasting the protesters with bullets".
also fuck you federal agent, tongue my anus.
>>105851560
They passed that (((law))) in 2009, more than 60 years after it happened kek, (((westerners))) and (((ussr))) yes

>>105851593
>They passed that (((law))) in 2009
Previously you also had laws that you are not allowed to question the holocaust narrative
>more than 60 years after it happened kek,
Do you think the effects of denazification are over? Take a look at how journalists and politicians talk about the AfD.
>(((westerners))) and (((ussr))) yes
Both were controlled by the jews, the west still is.

>>105851396
>but they don't look and act like other honeypots like nord and surfshark.

What if the glowies have stepped up their game to deceive people?

>>105851637
Then they still would need to lay that open in court otherwise the evidence will be dismissed. The only case in which they aren't forced to do that is if it's going against national security but then still the judge and defendant will need to be informed about the method they used to get that info.

>>105851627
>Previously you also had laws that you are not allowed to question the holocaust narrative
No, jews drafted it in 2009 and passed it in early 2010. Stop making shit up. (speaking about Hungary, might be an honest mistake on your part and switched up Hungary with Germany)
>Do you think the effects of denazification are over? Take a look at how journalists and politicians talk about the AfD.
AfD is a kosher right party nowadays (except for a few hardliners)
>Both were controlled by the jews, the west still is.
I fully agree, just add Russ.. fuck it add the whole continent.

>>105851593
>>105851627
Why are you fascist? Are you gay?

>>105851590
>That you maybe should advocate for both privacy and anonymity
this talk would have been acceptable like 20 years ago, do you realize this?
the train is gone, the people that could change something didn't try hard enough when they could have any impact whatsoever on the matter
if anything the Snowden leaks just show that most people simply don't care or don't think it's so important or essential to them, for the reasons I mentioned before (free shit with funny short videos and catching criminals), blame the average normie not me for not going on the streets to protest (because I couldn't and I was too young for that as a zoomer anyway, so technically if you are older you brought this world yourself and then me into it)
>>105851593
>no we're are not
well maybe not (You) and other people itt that might have the same opinion given how 4chan works, for the average normie it's not a problem and that's what really counts
>federal agent
ok bro, wish they paid me for this shit btw

>>105851554
>no it's not, the argument being made here is that you simply don't need anonimity as an average person
Maybe YOU don't need it as an average normalnigger. It just means you are fine getting profiled and manipulated by big tech every single day. See cambridge analytica and the countless other things they've done.

>>105851684
>well maybe not (You) and other people itt that might have the same opinion given how 4chan works, for the average normie it's not a problem and that's what really counts
Anon, Eastern euro countries (like mine) had 200k+ protests against surveillance and general government fuckery back in 2006, 2010, 2015, 2017 and recently against the Pegasus goyware.

>>105851693
>It just means you are fine getting profiled and manipulated by big tech every single day
except I'm not, maybe profiled I will give you taht
I have pretty much zero online presence, I just don't ineract with things I either don't care about or don't agree with

>>105851670
>speaking about Hungary
I thought you were talking about germany since that was the subject. I don't know europe-wide rulings regarding holocaust denial.
>might be an honest mistake on your part
You literally said
>Germany levels of censorship
I feel it's a fair assumption to continue thinking you're talking about Germany.
>AfD is a kosher right party nowadays (except for a few hardliners)
I know but they still are trying to ban it. It's a clear case of controlled opposition if you ask me. They still call them nazis though (even though they're the biggest Israel supporters of all the big german parties).
>just add Russ.. fuck it add the whole continent.
Russia is partially in the grip of the jews but to a much lesser degree. They're also not the ones burning their Christian churches during a war for what it's worth.

>>105851662
>Then they still would need to lay that open in court

Says who?

>>105851712
>200k+ protests
200k+ member protests*

>>105851684
>Demoralization
Don't care, we got technological means to ensure both privacy and anonymity and you should advocate for the usage of those.

>>105849531 (OP)
>Ingerland, Germany, Netherlands
>3 relay families own more than a THOUSAND nodes
It's were majority Interpol's goons that investigate CSAM are stationed at Tor hasn't been worth it since the closure of Silk road. It's nothing but a glow pot these days and anyone using it is a retard. If something's publicly and widely known then it's almost definitely compromised.

>>105851713
>I have pretty much zero online presence
>average person
there, you've just dismantled your own argument

>>105851742
not that nigger, but he didn't claim he's an average person.

>>105851728
Any defense lawyer since he can question the evidence put forth.

>>105851719
Why are you degenerate nazi faggot?

>>105851760
>>105851679
(You)

>>105851758
Glowies don't care about laws.

>>105851758
>Thrown into a FISA court
what do?

>>105851755
He claimed you don't need it as an average person, I then explained how it affects the average person. His only counterpoint was that he has no online presence, which is something that is decidedly not average.

>>105849882
Holy fucking hell what was that description ever think one of those glow niggers becomes a pedo from the land fill of videos they go through?

>>105851775
Lawyers and judges do

>>105851789
Not be american

>>105851791
Ah right, I didn't properly read his response, just skimmed it. My bad. He's having a melty over someone not kissing government boots.

>>105851805
>Lawyers and judges do
No, they don't. Or at least, their job is to interpret the law in a way to serve the state.

>>105851805
>Not be american
>Thrown into a german federal court (you're basically fucked)
>a polish court (good luck)
>a russian court (lol)
>a belarussian court (LMAO)
>a hungarian court (prepare to die before having a final verdict)
>a canadian court (jeeted by your lawyer)
gg

>>105851827
>Or at least, their job is to interpret the law in a way to serve the state.
Anon, defense lawyers need to defend you. If they don't, they won't make money off you more than once.

>>105851831
In all of those countries evidence can still be questioned.

>>105851849
>he thinks that a russian/belarussian/hungarian court will accept a "questioning"
Actually deranged american living in justiceland

>>105851735
you are free to point out the demoralization part from my post, I will wait
>>105851742
>you've just dismantled your own argument
many people don't have that big of an online presence for one reason or another, doesn't make them any special or different than the others
4chan can also be easily considered a form of online presence, now what?

>>105851791
>>105851810
It doesn't even matter. I'm willing to bet that the retard still uses google services like jewtube and gmaps, which together can and do manipulate you just fine, even if you don't have social media.

>>105851866
>you are free to point out the demoralization part from my post, I will wait
No need to wait long zoomfren
>this talk would have been acceptable like 20 years ago, do you realize this?
You weren't even conscious back then
>the train is gone
Technological means can get us both privacy and anonymity.
>the people that could change something didn't try hard enough when they could have any impact whatsoever on the matter
That's wrong. You're thinking about laws. Laws need to be our last defense.
>if anything the Snowden leaks just show that most people simply don't care or don't think it's so important or essential to them,
Wrong. The waves it made showed that pretty much everyone cared. People simply didn't want to leave their convenience and now people like you are trying to show that they should give up anyway. This behavior is what keeps people from trying to switch from whatsapp to signal, from signal to session, from facebook to just talking to their friends irl and so on.
>blame the average normie not me for not going on the streets to protest
The politicians are not the devs and political change is always possible
>so technically if you are older you brought this world yourself and then me into it)
I do my best to educate and advocate. Your demoralization of privacy and anonymity being unattainable now is what keeps people away from at very least thinking about making a change.

>>105851863
>Walks back half of his points
Thanks for admitting you're wrong :)

>>105851943
what are you talking about, did you reply to the wrong post?

>>105851973
You named 6 countries and then walked it backed claiming only 3 of them would not allow the questioning of how the evidence was gathered.

>>105852002
>You named 6 countries and then walked it backed claiming only 3 of them would not allow the questioning of how the evidence was gathered.
Sorry, next time I'll include 30 more and a Big Mac with large fries. Nice bait btw, I had a slight laugh from reading this :)

>>105852026
So what happened to the other countries? Did you suddenly realize that they do in fact allow you to question your persecutors?

>>105851929
I still fail to see the demoralization aspect but you do you
>Technological means can get us both privacy and anonymity.
go ahead and get it, the average person is not doing that
>You're thinking about laws
I'm thinking about anything really, protests, boycotting, laws, whatever, neither of that was enough
>The waves it made showed that pretty much everyone cared.
everyone cared so much that long term it actually got worse because people lost interest
free funny cat videos and catching criminals >> any other pro privacy/anonimity reason you can think of
>like you are trying to show that they should give up anyway
well they shouldn't but most effectively did, what's your plan to bring them out of the convience bubble that hey have been experiencing for more than a decade
>This behavior is what keeps people from trying to switch from whatsapp to signal, from signal to session, from facebook to just talking to their friends irl and so on.
telegram once also offered itself to be this privacy/anonimity respecting option for normies, see how that end went
obviously it wasn't in reality, but we are talking public perception here
>I do my best to educate and advocate
and this is fine
>Your demoralization of privacy and anonymity being unattainable now
how is it demoralization if it is just a fact, is the hassle truly worth it? the answer for the majority is clear: it's not
you had your shot at making a change and you blew it, don't expect that a second chance will magically appear out of nowhere

>>105852055
No, I just said 3 because I'm LAZY because it's almost midnight alright? ALL of the six countries I mentioned earlier WILL fuck you over in court. Sorry for not mentioning all them in the second post where I only said 3. I will not reply to your shitposts anymore, 14 year old Marques from North Carolina. I fucking hate summerfags

>>105852102
>I still fail to see the demoralization aspect but you do you
You claim it's over when it's not. That is demoralization.
>the average person is not doing that
Which is why we need to educate, advocate and make it more accessible.
>I'm thinking about anything really
Oh, so all of the projects that try to preserve privacy or anonymity stopped 20 years ago?
>everyone cared so much that long term it actually got worse because people lost interest
They didn't lose interest. They are saying it's too hard to get off the platforms that abuse their rights to privacy and anonymity and you are fueling their misconceptions.
>free funny cat videos and catching criminals >> any other pro privacy/anonimity reason you can think of
I previously got free funny cat videos on Session. Your dichotomy is false, your point is moot, your demoralization is btfod.
>what's your plan to bring them out of the convience bubble that hey have been experiencing for more than a decade
By showing that they do not need to trade convenience for privacy and anonymity.
>telegram once also offered itself to be this privacy/anonimity respecting option for normies, see how that end went
Ah yes, the privacy respecting app telegram that needs to have e2ee enabled. It's always been a honeypot.
>how is it demoralization if it is just a fact
It isn't a fact.
>is the hassle truly worth it?
The hassle of switching to better platforms that are immediately compatible with the same mechanisms used before and give the same options? The hassle is writing one message and sending it too all of your friends and people can do that for their birthdays too.

>>105852174
Anon, it's a 14 year old kid baiting us, just stop it. I almost forgot I was on /g/ but then I remembered that you can't have an honest debate without shitposting kids here. See picrel

>>105852153
I'm German, you are wrong and you publicly have shown that you're wrong and after I pointed it out you walked it back since you know that even the disgusting americans allow judges to dismiss evidence if it's questionable.

>>105852203
I am the one you consider a 14 year old kid so sprich deutsch du hurensohn

>>105852223
>sprich deutsch du hurensohn

Es is Donnerstag, meine Kerle.

>>105852434
Komm ins cafe

>>105851118
obsessed

>>105852596
meds

>>105852866
>gets called out for being obsessed
>"NO, YUOR OBSEST"
>obsessed

>>105852889
meds NOW

>>105852889
whoops, meant obsessed

>>105852910
wait is this a jaybot lol?

>>105852919
DOXING! MODS!

>>105852923
oh ok nvm
still obsessed thougheverbeit

>>105852930
MEEEDS!!

>>105852933
what if i posted his dox

>>105852947
OHNONONONO

>>105852953
who says so

>>105852986
Global Rule #4 doe

>>105852997
but moot left 4chan a decade ago?????

>>105853003
>moot
too soon

>>105853017
i wonder if that faggot wouldve created a soi board if he stuck around for long enough for qa to happen

>>105853027
He would've sperged out on /q/ (like he always did)

>>105853044
touche
dunno wtf he sold out over gamergate for doeh
manhater lesbian pussy? really?