Thread 105852927

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, X5/M, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y70/60, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (gaming included): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700/X, 7700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (13/14th gen -K CPU BIOS update required)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported, BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580, SN770
High end: SN850X
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU: compare price to performance & features, Optiscaler mod expands FSR4 support
Budget: Arc B580, used card
Mid range: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-performance 1440p & Mid-range 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: Acer XV271U M3, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, Samsung Neo G8 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>> >>105822033

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid-range: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 G2, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>105841619

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super rumors: 5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB

KTC releases budget 1440p miniLED in the US (M27T6, $300 promotional pricing until August).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F7Q22V3W
Review link (use translator): https://chimolog.co/ktc-m27t6/

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: current 9070 prices in the US are too close to the 9070XT's.

>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>Additional PSU Reviews
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies

For PSU tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?usp=sharing

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Others
Leave constructive feedback to help improve the OP (including news worth sharing).
Share PC building-adjacent interesting/silly images for the next OPs.

put those shitty ssds out of the op
linux "issues" is entirely intentional marketing pseud

Is this a meme case?

>>105853071
i dont know what that case is. but it sure looks like a meme case

>>105853085
Fractal North XL

>>105853008
Lmao are we going to have brand wars over SSDs now?
990 Pro is better in Windows compared to the SN850X, I'll include that one for the high-end segment.

whats the difference between expo1, expo2, and expo tweaked on asus amd boards?

>>105853148
Expo 1 is probably the one with the loosest timings, making it easier on the CPU to run (speed & primary timing only).
Expo 2 is Expo 1 + a few secondary timing optimizations.
Expo Tweaked is probably a more aggressive memory timing customized by ASUS engineers.

>>105853104
idk. i just think its weird how linux and windows are both x86 operating systems and very similar but somehow certain ssds are slower. on linux i can understand why microsoft wont support wifi 7 because they are greedy but theres no reason for linux to have these issues since its open source and anyone can fix it. it would have to be an underlying thing in linux that you cant just change like the filesystem, but even then there are different filesystems you can choose from after all

what is the smallest case that can fit an nh d15

>>105853172
okay I turned on expo tweaked and it feels like the system is faster like just starting up things is more snappy than regular expo.

also what is this core tuning for gaming?

>>105853071
wood elements are the new rgb

>>105853363
Based. I can't wait for my wood grain lined ram sticks to get here

>>105852964
>RTX 50 Super rumors: 5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB
I'm not complaining at all, but looking at the rumoured specs, is there really much justification to buy a 5080 super over a 5070 ti super unless you're absolutely min-maxing with no regard for price? Surely the practical difference between these cards will be marginal?

Is there any way to get Bluetooth to work?

I'm on Win10 and got tricked into getting an Asus motherboard because it has Win10 drivers, but now when I'm trying to figure out what's wrong I see that they have hidden away a "Win11 only" inside their FAQ for Wifi. Which I assume fucks up Bluetooth as well.

I don't care about Wifi not working but would like to get Bluetooth working if I can. Installing Win11 is not an option at the moment.

>>105853148
Expo2 strictly uses the expo profile on the ram stick
Expo1 uses the expo profile plus a couple of subtimings tightened by Asus based on your board/CPU/ram
Expo tweaked is expo1 but with even more tightened timings that may not be stable

>>105853472
which mobo

>>105853363
I fucking hate wood elements. I don't want a case that's going to attract termites.

>>105853472
>>105853560
Never mind, I solved it by downloading the Windows11-only Bluetooth driver.

Running AsusSetup.exe it said "Does not support this Operating System" but there was also a "Install.bat".
So I ran the bat file and the driver installed just fine and now Bluetooth works just fine, listening in my headphones right now.

Wouldn't be surprised if the wifi driver also works, I'm tired of fake "win10 incompatibility issues".

tfw new samsung 990 pro 2tb only has 1.3 tb usable space

>>105853668
shouldn't it be ~1.8

>>105853348
>also what is this core tuning for gaming?
It's probably going to overvolt the CPU to increase boost frequency by 200MHz or so, not worth it.

>>105853378
They're both going to be overpriced, 5070 Ti Super 24GB around $900~1200, 5080 Super around $1200~1400.

>>105853628
w11 before 24h2 was basically a reskin of w10, drivers are most likely compatible for now
unless they actually involve tpm

>>105853682
yes

>>105852927 (OP)
>Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
why these is particular?

and why is the Noctua 3x the price of the others? there seems to be way cheaper and well rated alternatives for the same noise level, judging from pcpartpicker

>>105853693
>They're both going to be overpriced, 5070 Ti Super 24GB around $900~1200, 5080 Super around $1200~1400.
Sure, I'm just trying to wrap my head around the strategy here, who is the market for the 5070 ti super - if you're going to pay that kind of money for that performance, surely you'd just pick up a 5080 super?

>>105853718
brand name mostly
back in the day they were untouchable among aircoolers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heriTDWIU2g

Broke my CPU so I had to go buy a new one today and the clerk at the store laughed at me for asking for an Intel processor

>>105853694
Unfortunately the Wifi driver didn't work. I tried several versions, most failed to install and even though one of the drivers said it successfully installed the Wifi did not start to work.

Lesson learned to check if the motherboard has all the preferred OS drivers before purchase (I only checked if it had chipset drivers for Win10 and thought that meant it supported Win10 completely).

>>105853771
kek

>>105853771
Are you sure he didn't laugh at something else about you when you just happened to be asking for Intel?

>>105853778
you should look up the wifi module, maybe you can download drivers directly from the manufacturer

>>105853787
No he laughed and then said "Why would you want an Intel CPU?" In a condescending way .
I just kinda of mubmled "Its what I got man" while trying to hold back tears.

>>105853771
>dbz
>intlel
(you) deserve every laugh aimed at (you)

>>105853718
>>105853761
I was going to get Noctua CPU cooler as I usually do but then I saw the prices I decided to look at alternatives, according to tests the Peerless Assassin were equal if not cooler than Noctua, and just as quiet, and on top of it all I think it was also a little smaller. So that's what I bought. If the fans break in some years I could always just switch them out.

Noctua needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Nobody will be the best forever, in a thousand years there will just be 1 kind of air cooler that is exactly the same across all brands, because at some point you reach the max and everybody else just copies you. Had Noctua been 50% more expensive I would have gotten it but 300%? That's too much, Noctua should ride their reputation now and these prices hinders it.

...Still bought some Noctua case fans tho since they were reasonable in price.

>>105853761
i wonder why gn test results are so different compared to hardware canucks'

>>105853798
Kek
Should have gave him the finger or ignored him and get another rep

>>105853790
don't know where module info can be looked up, is it in the manual?

>>105853859
all the other reps stood in the background clapping

>>105853071
>>105853100
I don't know why you would want the XL, but I'm very happy with my North. I've got a 5070 Ti and a P40 in there, next time I upgrade I'll stick the P40 on a riser and it will fit where the side fans are, I'll move them to the top position. My only complaint is that all three 2.5" drive mounts are stuffed behind all of the cables where they get no airflow, I have to dangle my optane drive behind the bottom of the front fans to keep it from overheating.

>>105853071
>>105853907
I've got both that case and the Tornado and they are the same size, I had to remove one of the front fans of Tornado to fit the RTX 5080 inside. And the top one had to be moved inwards due to the little support pillar that comes with top tier gpus.
If the 5090 is longer than 5080 it would not fit in these cases.

>>105853876
it should be in the specs somewhere
you still haven't posted the model name

>>105853859
Would have been pointless since like /pcbg/ they are all on Lisa's payroll

Hello friends,
current system:
Mobo: MSI MAG X570S
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800x3d
GPU: PNY RTX 3090
RAM: 32GB 3200 MHz DDR4
PSU: EVGA Supernova G650
CASE: Lian Li Lancool Mesh 2
SSD: 2 NVME, 2x SATA 6gb/s
Monitor: 3x 1440p 170Hz


I'm going to buy an PNY RTX 5080 for $1200. Do I need to upgrade my PSU too? I was thinking of going up to 1000w (RM1000x).

https://www.microcenter.com/product/690482/pny-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-epic-x-rgb-overclocked-triple-fan-16gb-gddr7-pcie-50-graphics-card
https://www.microcenter.com/product/686842/corsair-rm1000x-1000-watt-cybenetics-gold-atx-fully-modular-power-supply-atx-31-compatible

>>105853981
A psu upgrade is not necessary since the 5800x3d barely uses any power and the 5080 doesn't use more power than the 3090 that you're already using.
As for the new connector on the 5080, you can just use the included adapter

>>105853981
Man, you've been using a 650W for a class 90 card. Times sure have changed.

>Do I need
Yes you do. Aim for an ATX 3.1 unit if you can.

>>105853931
That's a good point, come to think of it the reason I even have my 5070 Ti is because the Sapphire and XFX 9070 XTs were going to be too wide and the others sold out instantly.

>>105853981
Don't buy the 5080. Get a 5070 Ti if you absolutely need something now or wait for the 5080 Super in 3 or 4 months.

>>105854067
What's so super about it? +4 GB of VRAM?
RTX 5080 for 1200 bucks is a bargain where i live, if he is supposed to buy both the 5070 ti and then later the 5080 super he'd probably pay 50% more than if he'd just bought the 5080 to begin with, not counting second hand selling

looking at
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
GeForce RTX 4080
GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER
is almost the same, the super is even slightly lower in score. what's to say that won't happen again?

>14600 can be easily tuned to run as a 8(16) 5.5ghz 100w processor
>intel shipped it as a 200w big little monstrosity @ """5.3""" ghz
They wanted to lose

>>105854029
>not necessary
>>105854047
>necessary
uhh...

>>105854067
I can probably sell my 3090 to AI nerds for a decent price still but a 5080s would lower that probably and it would also cost more for no real gain I think.

>>105854145
*sorry 6(12)

>>105853718
>A620 PRO SE
Good budget option, better price/performance than Thermalright coolers.

>Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3
Thermalright dual tower coolers provide good value, and this V3 has newer TL-P12 fans that can generate the same static pressure at lower noise levels.

>NH-D15 G2
Buy once, cry once premium option. It has the best 140mm fan on the market.
Loudness measured in dBA isn't enough to draw conclusions.
Some fans with a higher dB can sound more tolerable to ones with a lower dB reading because of the differences in sound frequency.
https://www.hwcooling.net/en/noctua-nf-a14x25-g2-pwm-finally-a-first-class-140mm-fan-review/

>>105854176
>Peerless Assassin
working with this in a tight case I dont understand why they shaped the metal to have actual spikes. i cut myself and there's no glass on my case so the kewlness factor is not there.

do you guys think the next generation of intel desktop chips will be any good ?

>>105854247
I can only hope, more competition is needed both for CPU and GPU

>>105854247
Only if the Bartlett lake S 12 pcore no hyper threading chips actually exist

I need a 5070 18 gb for 4k gaming. Come on nvidia

>>105854247
Don't get your hopes up for gaming.
Nova Lake might not even catch up to the 9800X3D, let alone Zen 6.

>>105854198
well it says assassin right there in the name bro

>>105854323
i am dead

>>105854145
Each group of 4 e-cores take up slightly more space than a p-core too. They could have easily made the 13900k a 12-core monolithic CPU and the 13600k an 8-core CPU with avx512 support and people would have gladly bought it

>>105854320
i just cant imagine using intel even if their CPUs match mid range x3ds
having to upgrade motherboard every 2-3 years is absolute bullshit while AM4 lasted for me for 7 years
not in this fucking economy

Just reassembled my old pc parts to repurpose them into a nas, but the mobo gives a solid orange light without displaying anything. What gives? All the parts were working last time I used them

>>105853931
>>105854067
This guy from re*dit was able to fit a sapphire 9070 xt but it was a tight fit with his retarded aio position

>>105852927 (OP)
what is /pcbg/'s opinion on tray type cpu? Should i stick to box types or trays are okay?

>>105854373
Taking out one of the sticks did the trick nvm

>>105854341
>more real cores with recovered die
Or even better CACHE

>>105854392
I’d be cautious of buying Ryzen 9000 tray CPUs.
Tray processors aren’t covered by AMD’s warranty.

>>105854149
3090 unironically uses more power than 5080 since its built on inefficient samsung 8N
5080 uses tsmc's N4 node and runs below its power limit most times.

Hence, a psu upgrade is totally unneeded for the 5080 to function at spec. You can upgrade if you want to but it will not change anything with regards to stability or performance.

>>105854279
That's last gen cpu using raptorlake cores
2026's next gen novalake will have 15-25% higher ipc than raptorlake

>>105854323
kek

>>105854441
the higher the watt capacity, the slightly longer your pc will remain on and stable if there's a power fluctuation in your area. You live in a place with dogshit power? 1000+watts or you're retarded. Or you can buy a charge-bank thing for your pc for a few hundred on top, which is a better purchase so long as you're not worried about having a lithium bomb next to your pc long-term.

Its a miniscule benefit, but on the other hand, a good psu will last a decade, even through multiple upgrades, so its not a big deal overspending on it.

>>105854377
wow lucky guy

>>105854247
i think they gave up on life when they went
>hyper threading bad now
approach
i still remember all the years of brainwashing of muh ht muh premium

>>105854459
quality psu will probably become more and more important since ai data centers apparently make the nearby power grid wobbly. dont remember the video i saw that in

>>105854504
found it https://youtu.be/3__HO-akNC8
>How AI is Ruining the Electric Grid by Wendover Productions

>>105853071
It looks nice in that pic. I have not seen one IRL yet. Is the wood actually that color?

>>105853576
Clean your room young man!

>>105854650
it can vary, cause it is wood. Some dudes report some chipping on the ends but the variations gonna happen.

>>105854451
Nu CPU designs are latent and gay

This is my first pc build how would I tell if my cooler is mounted incorrectly?

>>105854704
Temps

>>105853682
It is.

is there an am5 motherboard tierlist like there was for am4?

>>105854709
It’s amd so it’s hot.

>New MOBO has a built in optical spdif port and a high quality DAC
>Its all connected over USB
Back to the old reliable xonar

>>105854681
Looks noble.

>>105854712
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUjFgVHObdI

>>105854712
And here is the tier list for X870 (Non-E)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WagOqmAQ93A

>>105854711
Why is your cursor so big do you have old man mode enabled?

>>105854781
I have a 32" 4K display and I wouldn't spot the tiny (moving) cursor quickly enough unless I make it a little bigger. Text is also set to 150%. And the cropped screenshot has the Properties window appear much larger here than it actually appears on my screen. The cursor is not any/much bigger than it would be on a 1440p display if left at unchanged size.

>>105852927 (OP)

Does it make much of a difference if the power cables are made of copper or aluminium? Bought an afermarket 90° C13 for cable management, and this got me thinking.

>>105854895
> power cables are made of copper or aluminium?
Power cables of aluminum? Pardon?

>>105852927 (OP)
Did I break the seal between the cpu and the cooler if i had to slide to readjust it?

>>105854690
only intel's are. it must be the DEI hires trying to fit a square peg into a circular hole

>>105854763
>>105854777
Not him but is it worth going for an x870e compared to a b650e or x670e?

>>105854906
There might be some air pockets, I would check thermals before re-mounting it.

>>105854777
gigabyte just launched the x870 tachyon ice and I'm so disappointed that one of its three m.2. slot is only x2
woulda bought it otherwise even if it didn't have a 10gbe nic

Hey guys, I'm thinking of buying a used build. How do these specs look? They're asking for $1350 but I'm gonna try to haggle to $1200.

>>105855045
what gpu model doe?

>>105855052
Rtx 4070 ti super

>>105855009
Only if you want/need USB 4.0 (I do) or WiFi 7 (a joke).

i have an old samsung 970 evo, have a b650 motherboard now, would even a sn580 be an upgrade over it?

>>105855045
> $1350 for a used PC
That's a lot of money and you never know what is lurking in it. Even if you erase the disks and reinstall a fresh Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC.

when zen 2 was better for productivity that’s all anyone talked about, but now intel is better for productivity for cheaper and nobody mentions it now and it’s suddenly not a usecase, why is that?

>>105855045
>usabile
what does that mean?

>>105855194
265k firesale that was talked about quite a bit?

>>105855146
Really? Even after a new window install? Well shit

>>105855194
Back in the zen2 days, AMD literally had 1.5-2x the all core performance of the competing intel CPU at the time. Arrowlake today is roughly on par with the 9950x so nobody talks about Intel's productivity performance. 265k vs 9900x is slightly in Intel's favour but that's the problem - ((slightly))

my motherboard has one of those little square things that you put above the m2 similar to the picrel
what are they called?
i had to remove the m2 and i notice that between the m2 and that "cap" is not completely dry but got a little coating of some kind of transparent paste
i assure thats for reducing heating?
do i need to reply or change the paste?

>>105855340
ssd heatsink
and those are thermal pad/paste, you don't need to replace them unless they are really old/dry

Any recommendations or changes I should consider on this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MbKcLc
I already have the monitors; they're just there for reference. I'm not sure about the mobo and PSU. I wanted the full PCIe 5 stuff for the mobo so i could avoid upgrading for a long time. The PSU I don't really know. I've just been told it's a good brand and to go for 850w. Case I could be convinced to swap if things aren't going to fit.

Also what kind of fan setups do you guys like?

>>105855420
probably just buy 1x120mm fan for exhaust, 3x intakes with stock fans + 1x exhaust setup is fine

>>105855045
>looks like English
>Ryzen 7.7800
>Renural
>usabile
>Device iD, Product iD
>64-bit operatng
>6-based processor
>Check for wndows undates
What the fuck is this

>>105855496
Probably ai generated

>>105854377
>hot air from aio meme goes directly into 300w gpu meme
chud heatmaxxer

>>105855045
>32.0 GB (2+1 GB usabile)
>29.0 GB of rotten RAM

>>105853104
What do these values mean. I have a Kingston KC3000 and WD Black SN850(no X) both 2 TB. Am I fucked?

>>105853104
Every time I add it back in it just gets replaced by the sn850x again. Seems like someone has a thing for WD or a thing against Samsung

>>105855420
>I wanted the full PCIe 5 stuff for the mobo so i could avoid upgrading for a long time
Barring some major shakeup of graphics/storage tech, this isn't going to make much difference. The best video cards are barely saturating PCIe *3* in games and loading is still bottlenecked by decompression/latency. Different story if you do something other than gaming ofc - let us know if so.

>The PSU I don't really know
It's fine. Good, even, but a bit pricey for the wattage. Strong 850W ATX3.X units usually go for ~$110-120.

The rest of the build is similar. Solid components but slightly overkill/overpriced. Could shave ~$100 off without significant compromise.

>>105855496
>he doesn't have a based processor

>>105855385
i see, i though itd be something similar
its goodd that i dont need to relube it, its quite slimy atm

>>105855215
>>105855496
>>105855811
Thanks for your input guys. I'm just gonna avoid it and build a 9070xt build from the prime days sales.

>>105856170
def a better option

>>105852927 (OP)
is it really that hard to have 4060 level power consumptions card but with more than 8gb vram?
at this point im gonna die with my 3060 12gb

>>105856259
Factory overclocking is free performance & marketing numbers at the cost of buyers

>>105856275
if they have card with 110w tdp and 16gb vram i dont think im gonna buy a new gpu for a foreseeable future

>>105856259
Get a 5060ti and powerlimit/undervolt it. You won't get full performance at 115W, but it's overvolted to shit at stock, so it should still be pretty good.

>>105856259
>>105856301
>You won't get full performance at 115W
Although some ledditor claims you actually might
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1k4aykw/comment/mu3tnu7/

>>105856301
i was thinking about it but i havent seen any video about any anon that managed to do so.
i guess im the trailblazer now.

>>105856259
underclock/undervolt/powerlimit 5060ti/9060xt, you can reduce their core clock by 300-400mhz and i doubt you will lose more than 10% performance

Updated to the most recent Nvidia driver, but now my monitor flickers black every few seconds. It seems disabling G-Sync fixes the issue, but thats gay. Do you know if there is a solution?

>>105856541
downgrade your drivers

>>105856549
Is that the only solution? 4070tiS

>>105856557
every driver after 566.36 is a downgrade for you

>>105856581
OK cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvGQik3m6ag

STEAM CUC_KS STATUS?

Hi guys just here to show off my build
>Windows 7 64 bit
>32 GB DDR3 (not sure if same clockspeeds)

2 GPUs:
>Radeon 6700 XT
>GeForce 8800 GTX
(for a 2560x1440 (170 Hz) + 1600x1200 setup)

>128 gb boot ssd
>1 tb ssd + 2 tb ssd (formatted for linux dual boot only)
>i7 2600 (cooler fan broke)

sorry for pic quality my camera is on drugs or something

>>105855654
Oh, I get it. AI translated image from the original, which I presume was Spanish.

>>105856669
Doesn't mixing different GPUs give you problems? I heard it's bad if you have two different models, let alone mix AMD with NVIDIA

>>105856690
Kek I thought it was a fake OS or something

>>105856826
I'm getting openGL errors that I ignore but it seems fine. The 8800 GTX is so old I reckon the drivers are different enough to keep it running.

>>105856669
rat nest looking "build"

should you always maximize front panel inhale fans?

>>105857049
if noise is not a concern

can i buy a new pc build with am5 and keep my 1080 ti for a bit longer? would it work fine? Really doesn't seem like a good time for new gpu, but when is it ever? lol

Current setup:
Motherboard: Msi z370 gaming plus
Cpu: I7 8770k boosted to 4.5ghz
Gpu: MSI Geforce 1080ti, never overclocked it
Ram: Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4 3000MHz 16GB
Some AIO water cooler for the cpu i forgot name of, dont have receipt for it anymore.

I mainly want a new pc for a better looking case and more cooling. + Want to upgrade my drives so i can torrent more files. Got some terrible intake and outtake fans. CPU and GPU are always 80c+ when gaming. Only reapplied thermal paste once on cpu 5+ years ago

>>105857188
+ ofc it would be nice to run newer games at ultra settings with 100+ fps without my room boiling, but i know i should get a better gpu for that

>>105857188
Sure you can but 1080ti support might be discontinued after this current branch of 576 drivers

>>105857226
oh damn. So they forcing us 1080ti gamers to upgrade soon anyways:( if only i could snag up something like a 9070xt for msrp.. Its going for 944$ converted from my currency.. And 5070ti is 1083$ converted >.>
found my cpu cooler: Corsair H100i

>>105856937
yeah i gave up caring about cable management a while ago.

>>105856826
Both GPUs seem to run happily enough, I just have to switch my main monitor before doing it. the 8800 runs Crysis smoothly, the 6700 XT seems normal running Witcher 3.
I think the OpenGL errors don't matter.

Did this whole stupid thing because the Steins Gate visual novel has a rendering bug on modern AMD drivers, but I can't install the fixed versions on Win 7 (or downgrade drivers, the 5700 can but not a 6700). Was going to swap in a 560 Ti but I needed the 6700's displayport to run one monitor. (Lack of cables/adaptors)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QMFdPJ

Should I get Intel B580 or 9060 XT 16 GB?
B580 is $290 and 9060 is $420
I will upgrade to AM5 in a year or two

>>105856669
cool build, not sure why you'd put the better GPU in the bottom slot though

>>105857337
What GPU combo do you have there? I've got a few PCI cards (I don't remember why) but how does that even work with a modern card?

Looking for a better monitor since VA sucks, wanting to get the 2k experience or should i stay with 1080p? Also i use glasses having astigmatism and myopia so... Maybe mini led/led options will be bad for me? Since i use my pc like 8 hours a day
current system
Mobo: b450m aorus
CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x (soon it will be a 5700x3d)
GPU: Zotaco 4060 OC
RAM: 32GB 3200 MHz DDR4
PSU: EVGA Bronze 650w
CASE: not important since is old and i don't have the name
SSD: 1 m.2 1 tb, 1 ssd tb, 1 hdd 128 gb
Monitor: msi g242c

>>105857188
Cheers man, I was about to ask the same thing.
Even my setup is almost identical to yours (i7-8700 without k).
Yeah I'm also going to cope with my 1080ti until the prices for 9070xt drop. They cost $1000-1100 here.

>>105857188
1080ti will be a major bottleneck but if youre gaming low quality 1440p/medium 1080 why not

am5 is a huge latency reduction across the entire system so your 1080ti will be giving all it can

>>105857637
depends on how nvidia treats the super launch, if they go aggressive u should see 9070xt drop quite a bit
id wait out if few dozen bucks here or there are important

>>105857422
X1950XTX paired with a 5400+, don't have a second GPU atm, bottom card is an Audigy 2ZS

>>105857505
Uh you mean 4k experience right? 2k is just 1080p. I only ever used IPS so I don't know how mini LEDs and VAs really are. If you are concerned about eyestrain turn on night mode (on your OS) or a blue light filter on your monitor. Most should have those

>>105857689
Can't have a 4k because size and that my GPU is not that powerful

Should I upgrade from 7700X to 9800X3D? and 4070Ti to a RX 9070XT?

>>105857682
hell yeah let's compare ancient benchmarks

Will DDR6 RAM save PCs?

>>105857922
If there will be 4 or more channels

>>105857751
if both at the same time, yes

>>105857751
yeah
or maybe just the 9070xt now and get the best in socket zen6 10800x3d in a year and skip am6 entirely

>>105857751
what do you upgrade for? do you have a game giving you performance issues?

Just looking for a 1080p monitor that just fucking werks. I tried looking at rtings but its so fucking unbelievably expensive. I refuse 4k and 1440p. Complete meme resolutions. 1440p is useless for anything but games and 4k movies usually have shit transfers.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/by-resolution/1080p-full-hd
Thinking about getting a 24G2SPU
Thoughts on that?

Why is it a bad idea to save $$ on my PSU and motherboard on my new build? Can't i just go with the 1st cheapest am5 board and cheapest 750w/850w psu? im almost at 3000$ total for a new tempting build and i could probably save atleast 200$ on those 2 parts

>>105857741
>wanting to get the 2k experience or should i stay with 1080p?
Okay but 2k == 1080p. So not quite sure what you want to say here

>>105858153
1080p monitors are dirt cheap now, idk if you want more then 144hz but i had a BenQ 144hz ips monitor for like 10 years i was extremely happy with, and they shouldn't go for more then 200-250$.

Only thing id avoid are VN and TN panels

>>105858223
VA* panels

Can I skip buying a heatsinker for my nvme ssd if I'm not doing demanding tasks besides vidya from time to time?

>>105858263
get one regardless if you're buying a gen4 drive. don't be like me who ran a gen4 drive unheatsinked for half a year which caused several corrected errors in the S.M.A.R.T logs (never seen this elsewhere) and who knows what else to the drive.

>>105858263
heat sinks on consumer nvmes are a meme
especially if you have a mobo with included gigaheatsink

>>105858031
>>105858098
>>105858138
Okay asking because I have right now a 7700x and 4070ti and a friend of my has not much money and I wanted to be that pal that sells him my pc very cheap and then "treat" myself with an upgrade since I have the money but I don't know how much the gains are compared to current to what I am looking for. Or should I swap 9070XT to 5080?

>>105858388
go ahead then. both parts are really decent upgrades over what you have
>5080
its the worst xx80 card we've seen relative to the xx70ti and xx90. skip it

>>105858343
>especially if you have a mobo with included gigaheatsink
it's a MSI PRO B650M-P, if I remember correctly it didn't come with one for ssds

is a ~70usd price difference worth it for a 9700x over a 7700x for 1440p gayming and cad? been forever since i was in the market for a new cpu so i haven't kept up with what's good. currently using a 5500

How do you even use an NVME without a heatsink? Don't tell me you buy poverty motherboards that don't come with their own?

>>105858431
I'd suggest you skip it. 9700x is much faster outside of games but is massively bottlenecked by its re-used and hugely under-specced infinity fabric reducing its gaming effectiveness.
To get the most out of ryzen 9000, you'd want one of those x3d cpus with tripled L3 cache like the 9800x3d that reduces the IF bottleneck but those cost quite a lot more.

>>105858460
would you say 7900x at the same price of the 9700x would be a better value? judging from reviews it seems to be more performant despite being older

>>105858523
its faster in all-core loads like compiling code/shaders and will also run cooler as it has two chiplets to spread the heat.
but its also slower than the 7700x in games since it has 2 groups of 6-cores and the windows scheduler will only make use of 6 cores in games to prevent stuttering

>>105858446
Couple of options:
>Point a fan onto it like people do for RAM
>Lower voltage/PCIE rate
>Enable PowerDownMode and ASPM

>>105855827
It's just Tweak Town's overall SSD performance rating based on UL's storage and gaming benchmarks.
All the drives listed in the chart are fine; most people won't notice the difference between a KC3000 and an SN850X.

>Copy Buildzoids DDR5 Hynix Timings (takes literally 2 minutes)
>Latency went from 77ns to 66ns over EXPO/XMP
>Cyberpunk 1% fps went from 110 to 134
was it really that fucking easy? feels like it should be the default.

>>105856541
Try reconnecting the DisplayPort cables.
I have an RTX 40 card on the latest driver, 0 GSync issues, no flickering or black screens.

>>105858665
what cpu

>>105858665
i did this when i built my pc and i can't tell a difference desu. i didn't measure the before and after but whatever the difference may be it's not really noticeable.

>>105858198
Cheaper motherboards may have stricter CPU power limits to protect the modest amount of VRMs (that are usually lacking a heatsink).
It should be okay for gaming.

PSU, at least buy one that was tested to be safe. There are resources in the OP.

>>105858665
Keep tRAS at EXPO or JEDEC setting, tighter values provide no performance gain and might cause strange instabilities (esp. if using iGPU).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS_NeTwjOvY

>>105858198
>Can't i just go with the 1st cheapest
Nyo
Go for the 2nd cheapest.

I got shafted by newegg several months ago and got a Z890 eagle wifi 7 lga 1851 because of combo faggotry. I was thinking of selling it but I remember intel chips being pretty good for a server. Are the arrow lake cpus good enough for this and if so which one has the lowest power draw, I hate the naming scheme of these chips.
I asked /hsg/ but no response

>>105858764
Core Ultra 5 225/F (6P + 4E cores), they're on Prime Day sales (about $210).
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#F=104&sort=price&page=1

It should be decently power efficient, below is a review of the 6P + 8E core variant.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-ultra-5-245k/

>>105858764
Same. What was wrong with the previous naming scheme

While we are at the ssd conversation what do you think about motherboards that come with a ssd slot right below the gpu slot? Isn't it counter productive considering air is supposed to passing through there?

Anything I should change?

>>105858945
Looks fine, 1TB drive kinda meh for an ITX board.
If that's all the storage you need, it's good.

>>105858960
Yeah mainly for dual boot OS and apps, the 2TB will be my gaming folder for both of them

>>105858024
they did you one better since ddr6 will change things to octo channel per 2 slots

>>105858945
>mini mobo
I'd never ever do that
>but why
try working with the components, connecting disconecting shit, ull want to kys

>>105858966
3 tb is not overkill at all, run widit

>>105858737
>Cheaper motherboards may have stricter CPU power limits to protect the modest amount of VRMs (that are usually lacking a heatsink).
idk what any of that means
if i want a 9800x3d whats the mobo to go for thats not 300$+? been looking at b850

>>105858945
do u really NEED those pro drives? check prices ofc, but instead of those two u can prob go with new 990 evo plus 1tb+4tb for same money. with gayman slop going hundreds of gigs in size - you can never go wrong with extra tbs.

>>105858945
>compact memebuild
>pcie 5.0 nvme
why

>>105859053
B850 tomahawk and b850 aorus elite are decent $219 boards. Supports any CPU up to the most power hungry 9950x perfectly fine

>>105858680
9800X3D

>>105858735
The 1% lows are much better, the fps is locked and consistent on my 4K LG instead of dipping below. If you especially hate VRR flicker you will notice its also gone.

>>105858737
Did this too and also disabled igpu since I don't use it and it lets me do lower vsoc (1.17v instead of 1.25v)

>>105859132
>9800x3d
Huh, nice to know ram oc benefits x3d too

Fuck. I boughted amd and I'm lagging in davinci. It's over

>>105859139
I think the default EXPO is too loose. I didn't even change FCLK or memory/cas or do a crazy overclock on the CPU. All I did was just the ram sub timings and enable some bios settings.

>>105859194
Hynix 16gbit A-die is just that good. 24gbit m-die unfortunately doesn't do nearly as well with much looser tRFC
Are you using buildzoid's public 500 tRFC values or the newer 400 tRFC one?

Going to buy a used hard drive, was advertised like new

What checks am I able to do on it quickly to ensure it's not a dud and hasn't been tampered with? I'm really dumb with this stuff, using Windows. Any help welcome. Thank you

This fine for going with a 5070 Ti + 9700X? Don't see myself going ham on expansion slots other than filling out the M.2s, but I'm scouring over any odd possible gotchas.

The 5 Gbps LAN port is cute but I imagine that's hamstrung by the modem.

>>105859307
It's fine.

>>105859292
Get CrystalDiskInfo and CrystalDiskMark to check drive health & run some performance benchmarks.
https://crystalmark.info/en/software/

Corsair 4000D airflow case still good in 2025?
Any fan changes i should consider if i get this?

>>105859376
Get the newer 4000D Frame case.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-cases/cc-9011312-ww/frame-4000d-rs-modular-mid-tower-pc-case-cc-9011312-ww

RS version includes 3x stock fans, you can add a rear exhaust fan.
Arctic P12 Pro or be Quiet Pure Wings 3 120mm is good enough.

>>105859447
ty! gonna go for that instead

>>105859362
thank you. can things be spoofed on drives though to make them look good when they're not?

it's 12tb

>>105852927 (OP)
Is there any recommended UPS guide? Or any recs? Preferably not too expensive.

>>105859489
The drive's SMART data could be tampered with; avoid Seagate drives.
https://blocksandfiles.com/2025/02/25/fraudulent-pulled-seagate-drives/

>>105859489
Is it a refurbished data center drive? If yes it's more likely real. I bought one not to long ago, it had about 28 start ups and 8000 hours on it. Works perfectly fine, but noisy as shit.

>>105859536
It was this one
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07WYF7YXL
WD Red Pro 12TB NAS

Trouble is, I have to basically test it by today/tomrorow, because I have a voucher than runs out by then and if this drive is a dud, I'd need to use the voucher to order a new drive. But if the drive is good I can use the voucher on something else. And shit it still hasn't even arrived.

If SMART data can be tampered, what can I use to test it, but to test fairly quickly to see what the actual drive health and quality is like and if it's going to be a problem? My idea is to shove it in a NAS. I paid around $160 for used-like new

>>105858945
>ITX
why?

>>105859568
Not an expert, but what I read is that the actual defects, like mechanical issues surface in the first 3-6 months, so if it was used for about a year and then resold, then it's most likely good, it has several years until degradation. Basically look up when the drive was released, and if it's in the last few years, then it literally can't be an old ass drive with faked data.

>>105859650
On the product page it says "2024" model, which sounds promising then

Need some advice on this build inspired by my leftover motherboard in
>>105858764
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tdVGgn
I'm not sure on a good case and if I should also turn this into a router which I should be able to do with proxmox right?
I don't mind it being chunky if it can be home network swiss army knife

I think there's only one option in this market. All scalpers must die. There are businesses where the entire existence of the business is to auto-buy MSRP cards and then sell them priced up 50% or more. Just gather up all the people responsible, put them on trial, and then hang them.

I want to spend £2000 on a new PC
If I spend £1000 on the GPU, a 5080, what components should I get with the other £1000

>>105859897
only 1000£ for a 5080? lucky...
Cheapest for me is 1350£:(
id go with a 9800x3d cpu but that wont give u much options for the rest if its like 500£.

>>105855698
You gotta keep the silicon at the right temperature for maximum operational effectiveness.

>>105859897
if you can get the 9070 xt for much cheaper then 5080, check out this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/radeon/comments/1kkppaz/rx_9070_xt_vs_rtx_5080/
really not a bad comparision, they're pretty much equal, better to give money to amd when nvidia only cares about their AI sales

>>105856669
Beautiful, need more pics.

>>105859923
Because of Prime day OCUK has some at msrp

>>105859929
Doesn't that only apply to NVME flash?

Hello, I haven't built a pc in a while and I wonder what's the AMD equivalent for a 4070S?

I have been doing a lot of searching and have narrowed down to some monitors. For vidya and browsing
Can anyone help a dumbass like me decide?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BQJWFYTM?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-G2725D-2560x1440-FreeSync-DisplayPort/dp/B0DD9BZKJ9
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B086ZSLPN1?th=1
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Nitro-XV271UM3Bmiiprfx-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B0C4TY27V6?th=1
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0D8128F4P
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AOC-Gaming-Q27G4XD-FreeSync-DisplyPort/dp/B0CZ78S8GJ?

All prices are similar except the Asus which is just above budget and almost doubling what I actually wanted to spend. I was going to settle at 1080p 24" so idk how O=I've ended up here
Chat=GPT is adamant on the AOC. There's a variant that has speakers but with a worse screen.
Thing is, I kinda want speakers on the monitor but so few come with them. Are there any inobtrusive devices I can use that can give me some shitty speakers easily on a monitor? I literally don't have a desk, the monitor would be free standing on an arm. don't ask kek. Any speakers would have to run on like a 2m cable

It's my first time building a PC with RGB and a lot of fans. I'm getting the Antec C8, which comes with 2x160mm and 1x140mm fans, plus a mini hub for them. I’m also planning to add 3 more fans vertically, and I'm getting the Arctic Liquid Freezer III, which includes 3 additional fans. So in total, I’ll probably need a hub like the one in the pic.
My motherboard is the TUF B850 Plus.
How should I connect everything? Should both hubs be chained, or can they be connected separately to the motherboard and still sync with Aura I guess?

>want to switch cases
>don't want to manage cables

>>105860147
7900GRE/6950XT

>>105860130
Nah, it applies to everything, too cold it bricks and to hot it also bricks

>>105860373
Embrace ratpill

>>105860373
cables don't real once the case is closed.

>>105860147
RX 9070, but it's usually priced too close to the 9070XT. Might as well get the XT in that case.

>>105860229
ASUS ROG XG27ACS, it's the most commonly recommended monitor for this range of products if you exclude the AOC miniLED.
AOC has VA panel, which will smear a bit.
Acer XV271UM3 is priced too close to the ROG, G2725D is certified downgrade from the G2724D.

>>105860425
Thank you wise anon
>Acer XV271UM3 is priced too close to the ROG
Unfortunately it's just priced enough to the point of pushing it out of my price range.
>AOC has VA panel, which will smear a bit.
Sorry, what do you mean smear?

The ROG is £40/$55 more than the AOC, do you think it's worth it anons?
It's not a screen I'll be using all the time, so I didn't want to spend too much. It's moreso for convenience but I will play vidya on it I'm sure

Is there a huge jump between the 9600x and 9700x?
Would be getting a 9060xt
Im just replacing my computer since a nog stole mine, was using a 3070 and 3600 and that was fine for me.

>>105860529
The ROG is already @ all-time low; you're not going to get a better deal for a while.
A monitor is something you own for a long time.
VA panels are only worth getting if they're part of a miniLED monitor imo.

If the price for the ROG is too much, get the 1080p TUF monitor.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/NjKscf/asus-tuf-gaming-vg249ql3a-238-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-tuf-gaming-vg249ql3a

my third hand build
MSI PRO B650m-A WiFi, 120 USD
DDR5 2x16gb 6000 mhz 36 cl Vengeance 80 USD
ryzen 7600x from aliexpress, 148 USD
512 gb m2 ssd from aliexpress, 32 USD
industry PSU 650W from trash (has fancy safety features), 0 USD
rtx 3060ti palit dual 258 USD
Office pc case, 2 USD
how did I do?

>>105860583
How do you let someone steal a whole tower?

>>105860583
Not for gaming, people FUD about the 6 cores, but the 12 threads through SMT makes it good enough for most gaming loads.
There are rare exceptions like CS2 where the extra 2 cores / 4 threads make a meaningful difference, but a 9600X is already strong enough for that game.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/17.html

>>105860727
>DDR5 2x16gb 6000 mhz 36 cl Vengeance 80 USD
This was an oopsie.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#b=ddr5&S=6000,8400&Z=32768002&F=6000000,10000000&sort=price&page=1

The rest seems fine.

Sometimes when I tab in/out of a game with gsync on, I get a black flicker across half my screen for a couple frames. It's not really a problem but it looks shitty. Is it just normal gsync jank?

How much of a performance boost is a 9070XT vs 4070 ti (not super)

Does a Peerless Assassin 120 fit in a Lian Li A3 or any other MicroATX case?

>>105860771
all this sync shit is jank

>>105860734
I was moving so it was in my car.
Thankfully they didn't look around since I had a ton of other shit in there as well.
>why was it in your car if you were not watching it
Was just being lazy. Won't happen again. First major thing I've ever had stolen... fucking nogs...
>>105860752
Okay that's what I was thinking. Thanks friend.

>>105860785
If both of them are sharing accurate product dimensions & available clearance, the Peerless Assassin (157mm height) fits in the A3 (165mm max CPU cooler height).
https://lian-li.com/product/a3-matx/
https://www.thermalright.com/product/peerless-assassin-120/

>>105860780
Nowhere near enough to consider upgrading.
If you have the 4070 Ti, overclock it.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4070-ti.c3950
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9070-xt-pulse/32.html

If you're deciding between the two to purchase, it depends on how much of a discount you're getting on the 4070 Ti.

>>105860229
The AOC Q27G4XD is an IPS panel, so that should be a good option.
The faggots at Amazon used a VA panel product image.

can I bring my matx ps case with myself (hand held, no wageslaves) in airplanes?
dimensions are 428×215×431mm

>Samsung SSD 870 EVO, 2 TB
are these drives safe to buy now? no more issues?

>>105860587
Thanks.
The thing for me is that in this current setup, I don't know how long I will actually use the monitor.
I've been using random chinese portable monitors and it was only meant to be a temp thing but now I've realised it'd been a year and decided to move on from it. But idk how much longer I'd keep it around for.
Why would you suggest the 1080p TUF over the 2K AOC? Are VA's really that bad? Why?
Just curious. I'm thinking I might stretch to the ROG, but it's just a heavy cost.

>>105860903
Oh bloody heck, that changes things again. Just when I was leaning to getting the ASUS because of the VA thing.
Thanks anon.

Still a hard choice. The ASUS does seem to have VRR which will work well for my PS5 I guess, I don't think the AOC does. Then there are also the speakers which should be handy. Just don't know if it's £40 handy and if VRR is even useful
Really appreciate the help though, you anons know your shit and it's much obliged since I don't

>5700x
>32gb 3200 ddr4
>9070xt
>512gb m.2 ssd
>14tb spinning rust

I'll wait for am6 in 2028 once the 2nd gen of am6 is out. I also got the microcenter 2 year replacement so if I want to upgrade I can just short this card out and get another card in like 18 months when the 6000 series nvidias come out. Maybe at that point after the 5070 ti super has 24gb vram the 6070ti will just come with 24gb. I can short this card out at anytime and get my $610 back for it. Bless you microcenter.

>>105861381
that is not how it works but great build anon enjoy it

>>105861444
It is how that works. Their replacement plans include "surge protection failure" and my house may just get struck by lightning frying my 9070xt at a moment where I want a new card and want to cash in for my $610 microcenter store credit.

>>105860996
Wait what, are thoe samsung evo bad? I just bought Samsung 990 EVO Plus on amazon

64 gb ram worth it if I plan to not upgrade at all besides maybe a gpu for 8 years?

>>105861721
NVMes should be safe after the 980 Pro bullshit.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-980-pro-ssd-failures-firmware-update

I believe the 870 EVO issues were limited to an older production batch, at least that's what Samsung claims.

who shat up the wiki

>>105861857
What a piece of shit we should add
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400 until it's fixed

how do I build this that someone in /bst/ has

>>105861796
you can always buy 2x16gb kits and later buy the same kit and make it 4x16gb if you are going to do ram heavy scientific computations
for vidya games why would you buy 2x32gb? seems retarded desu

>>105862048
okay i need this, RIGHT NYOOW

>>105862048
Jesus Christ that's the rocket girl schizo that begs with his shitty ai gens for his thread to be in OP.

>>105860229
>Any speakers would have to run on like a 2m cable
Monitors without speakers tend to have a audio output, but the quality of the audio depends heavily on models.
I got a AOC 24g2sp and it had a good enough audio output, but I RMA'd it due to lines appearing and they replaced it with a 27g4 which is a downgrade in MBR and the audio output has audible noise.
If your monitor does have speakers, they typically have a 3.5mm jack but I don't remember if the jack is for input or output (It might be input if the monitor has a VGA port, since VGA has no audio, or maybe the monitor has both 3.5mm ports). I am pretty confident that a pair of tiny $15-30 usb Logitech speakers would sound better than monitor speakers (and logitech speakers aren't even that good, it's worth it to check facebook marketplace or gumtree if anyone is selling speakers with a subwoofer for $15, or just use earbuds).
Also you could get the AOC Q27G3XMN which is a VA mini LED with 300 zones for slightly more than a normal 1440p monitor, but the q27g40xmn is newer, has 1000 zones, and it fixed the VRR flicker (not noticeable in most cases), BUT the new model is only solid in the US ATM, and the older model is still a valid option for you (the new model has a non-adjustable stand, that's why the new model is only $50 more, the stand is worth like an extra $40). No built in speakers however.
I would go for the mini-led if you spent a lot of time in the dark watching dark scenes that make the whole screen black, since IPS glow could be annoying in that specific scenario, VA might not have as good motion clarity / viewing angles however (but it's pretty solid, I wouldn't care unless you get motion sickness, check rtings), and VA has better contrast which might make it look better than IPS. Worst case scenario you might disable local dimming due to the artifacts from the zones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icYY_z3VQEk

>>105862123
>MBR
*I mean motion blur reduction.
I didn't use MBR much beacause it disables VRR + 120hz, but I admit, it did make scrolling 4chan more crisp.
The old model had pulse width modulation which is why it was a downgrade. And also I saw a bunch of youtube reviews showing the AOC monitor being decent at MBR (but not the best, I think a zowie was better?).

Sup /g/oyim
For someone without a card willing to fiddle with AI, is it worth to wait for NGreedia's super lineup announcement? How does VRAM affect that use intent?

how do i make a pro looking gaming capable pc instead of the childish looking one
i don't mean just the case even the components look very gaymey

wtf, I thought the 3060 was supposed to have been a good card? You always hear people who have one talking about how great it is.

>>105862168
Buy a 5090 goyim

>>105862202
Closed side panel

>>105862168
I would wait for the 4070ti super. Or buy a used 3060 12gb for right now then sell it when that comes out. Getting 16gb is just a waste right now. Amd requires you to fuck around WAY too much to get anything to work. Finding the amd forks, chasing down error fixes when the forks don't work anyway.

>>105862202
Buy a black card with no lights on it, buy a be quiet cpu cooler with no lights on it, buy a fractal north with a mesh panel, buy plain colored fans, buy a basic motherboard without the plate armor

>>105862238
Yes yes well done slytherin well done slytherin now show us the 1440p/4k results

Hey guys I recently bought Elden Ring on the Summer Sale but haven't been able to play it, it initially would go blackscreen, game audio would cut in and out, monitor would lose a signal, game would sometimes minimize, etc. Appears to be a software issue, I disabled fullscreen optimizations and was able to click start game before this window popped up

atieclxx.exe
The exception unknown software exception (0xc000000d) occurred in the application at location 0x00007FFD5340286F. Click on OK to terminate the program

I have a Geforce RTX 5070ti and my CPU is AMD Ryzen 9 9900X, every other game runs fine including more demanding ones such as Black Myth Wukong so what could be causing the issues here?

>>105862168
if you erp, and you have nothing to hide, just use openrouter with sillytavern, there are daily free limits but it's easy to switch between OR accounts while using sillytavern. Google Colab lets you load anything with 15gb of vram, but it's complex and autistic.
if you erp with custom models, sure buy a $1000+ 24gb GPU (at msrp, more like $1800 if you miss the stock), but most erp models need 48gb (AKA 70b q4).
If you just want to fuck with AI for testing, if you have 32gb of ram, you can just run it on your CPU at like 30x slower than running on a fast GPU.
If you don't mind shit being slow a shit, you could buy 2x 5060 TI's, it will hit like 10tk/s with 32gb (half the speed of 2x 5070 TI).
the 5090 isn't bad for $2000, since it's faster than 2x 5070 TI for LLM's. I highly doubt the super refresh would be better in cost per token.

>>105862048
>>105862077
That looks like the iBuyPower Snowblind case.
https://www.ibuypower.com/gear-store/pc-parts/cases/ibuypower-snowblind-s-case

>>105862339
Forgot to attach pic

>>105862339
>0xc000000d
google this. Its a corrupted driver, reinstall your drivers, repair the game files itself first of all, steam wont do it just because it crashed, this is basic windows troubleshooting.

Also lol @ you for paypigging for an Njudean gpu then panicking because you never learnt basic pc troubleshooting before. its never been easier now that AI tells you what to do.

>>105862403
do they sell it in a large version? it looks awful spec-wise, no top mount for AIO, its designed as a noob-trap tower for babbys first pc.

Just wait for the next iteration of a TRYX tower i suppose, they're on the cutting edge of LCD tech and style.

>>105862343
>erp
I'm leaning more onto image generation. Specifically, colorizing. Are there even reliable models for that?
>30x slower
>half the speed
>SLOW
Can I get a practical reference of time lenghts actually discussed? Hours? Days? To simple or complex stuff?
Should I ask these questions on another thread? Maybe I'm starting it wrong.

>>105862403
>tempered glass TN panel
the idea is kinda nice but looking at the mini LCD screen on my motherboard this seems to be yet unnecessary gimmick especially if you have to software control the screen.

>>105862496
I got a deal on it other wise I wouldn't have. Also this was the first PC I built in over a decade so I figured I would go big but am rusty as a result.

>>105858945
1TB 9100 Pro makes no sense, the OS does not saturate the bandwidth, not even games do.

>>105862558
i've seen attempts at colorizing anime but even if it was faster than doing it by hand, i don't really think there is any demand.
to use the ai correctly for an entire comic is gonna require effort, but I think it will devalue your work more than the work you put in (as in, good luck finding someone to commission your colorizing skills, when they THINK could do it themselves, but in reality it's actually really hard unless you're ok with people giving bad reviews/ pointing out issues because you didn't want to spend an extra minute fixing or manually painting something).

>>105862202
No RGB at all
Minimal LEDs
Quiet fans
No glass panel, ideally one where you can't really see inside though mesh is probably fine

>>105862579
'go big' is getting an X3D 9000series chip and a 5090, which is priced at ~6 weeks wages for me. Not that i'd ever buy an Njudean gpu.

just ask whatever free AI you can easily access all your basic troubleshooting stuff now, its fairly good at it.

>>105862202
pc components have never looked more aesthetic and you're mad about it? pic rel, my frankensteined-together mining pc from a few years back. I made 0 effort towards aesthetics, that cpu cooler came free with my main rigs cpu, thats a decade+ old corsair psu without modular cables, and look how great it looks!

>>105854131
>What's so super about it?
+50% VRAM and higher clock speeds. I did not recommend buying a 5070 Ti and then a 5080 Super, I explicitly said to buy *either* a 5070 Ti now OR a 5080 Super in a few months. There is no reason to buy a 5080 right now because it's barely faster than the 5070 Ti and has the same memory but is significantly more expensive.

Are those monitors from obscure brands ever worth getting?

>>105862786
I've been using AI to troubleshoot but this problem seems unique to me, some kind of complication or incompatibility with Elden Ring and the AMD Ryzen (built in GPU in the CPU) and Nvidia drivers. A real PITA since no other games have had this issue and I struggle to pinpoint the exact source since it causes monitor, audio, and sometimes the comp to freeze.

>>105862951
Did you know that even major brands are as of now shipping monitors with dead pixels and similar issues? There are special sections on their warranty pages just for covering that. Now imagine RMAing a monitor from one of these lesser brands

I heard at one point that is was possible to get a windows 11 key for free if you had an edu email. Is that still the case?

>>105863077
>>105822033
https://massgrave.dev/

>>105863100
What is that?

>>105863130
Activates Windows & Office for free.
https://massgrave.dev/faq

>>105863144
Oh so I just download the free version and that activates it?

But wasn't there a way to get a key for free with an edu email? I'd prefer to take the least shady route.

>>105858153
>I refuse 4k and 1440p. Complete meme resolutions.
just look at a game screenshot on 1080p, it looks like ass

>Thinking about getting a 24G2SPU
>Thoughts on that?
prime day deals you can probably get a basic ips for half the price

is it alright for regular desktop storage not for games.

>>105858665
What does this mean? I also have a 9800X3D and am interested if I can get better performance easily

>>105863159
>open google
>free windows edu mail
>thread links to https://azureforeducation.microsoft.com/devtools
no idea if it works. My university back in the day had its own shop where I could "buy" free keys for windows in limited quantity.

What's the best way to transfer files from my old computer to my new one? Can I just plug my old hard drive into the new pc and transfer files like that?

I'm getting bored of cyberpunk. What game with path tracing do I play next with my Nvidia graphics card

>>105863252
Yeah sure. You can use them for anything.

>>105863272
Yeah well I go to a shitty community college. I don't see anything about windows 11 for free, just office 365, maybe I should give the IT department a ring.

>>105862951
if you have a limited budget sure
I mean very limited
$200 should get you a decent monitor from AOC

is it easy to get nividia cards rolling on linux?
I'm worried It might be feature limited

I've bought Thermalright Aqua Elite v3 360 AIO
How do I know the screws are tight enough? I have a torque wrench but the least I can set it to is 25nm
Do I just eyeball it?

>>105863252
They're designed for 24/7 use they aren't fans of being spun up and down a lot

>>105863282
>Can I just plug my old hard drive into the new pc and transfer files like that?
that's what I did. Alternative you can try to do file transfer over your local network by sharing folders but this was rather bothersome depending on your OS.

>>105863311
too tight it way worse than too loose
don't crack your CPU or motherboard you shouldn't need a torque wrench for this

>>105863256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlYxmRcdLVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea0DN8ofx6A

>>105863256
https://kemono.su/patreon/user/887888/post/117158469
Guide only applies to 16Gbit Hynix A-die kits (2x 16GB)

>>105863318
And that won't be an issue if they both have an OS installed on them? One is Windows 10 and the other is going to be Windows 11.

Hi /pcbg/, been a while.
I'm helping out my cousin after his backyard was struck by lightning, frying his router+modem surprisingly enough. His motherboard's ethernet port seems like it was fried as well, unable to really get anything out of any sort of testing with it.
Are there any simple, small networking cards anyone can recommend? He's fine with replacing his motherboard since it'll likely need it but I'm going to ask anyways.

>>105858153
I really like Iiyamas 100hz and 165hz IPS panels, but not sure if japs sell it worldwide

>>105863336
You can set the boot priority in your BIOS but the HDD I used didn't have an OS installed.

>>105863343
startech should have something they've never let me down before

>>105863327
I guess I'll crank it till I feel resistance
Mfers should make it click or something so I have to tweak about installing it
If I crack my 9800x3d or this aorus mobo Ill jump off the roof

>>105863328
>>105863334
Yeah nevermind I don't have that RAM. I thought it was something I could do on my CPU

>>105863386
You can still enable core tuning/latency killer if you have Asus or ASRock.

Next:
>>105863395
>>105863395
>>105863395

>>105863386
2x32GB also works (double-sided 16Gbit).

>>105863159
U just paste
irm https://get.activated.win | iex
into powershell as admin and follow the instructions
Its so quick and simple I wouldn't even bother trying to get the edu one

>>105863440
I heard that it's a bit shady. People were saying there are back doors or something.

>>105863455
You can activate Windows, format the entire OS drive, and reinstall Windows if you're paranoid about this.

>>105859530
>avoid Seagate drives.
what, like completely?
i was going to buy a drive from a rated seller on ebay that was Seagate
Is there at least any way to test it once I get it to know if I've been fruaded?