Thread 105853834

>some tranny stole kiwiflare and is getting famous for it
Jersh btfo

>>105853834 (OP)
Yes, literally a troon
https://xeiaso.net/blog/coming-out-2015-12-01/

>>105853834 (OP)
>>105853844
nobody fucking cares about your kiwi site full of closeted pedos or some tranny project. go the fuck away and never return.

>>105853844
>2015
at least it's an og tranny

this is like the equivalent of that nigger kid on bbc bragging he invented computers when he just assembled one

>>105853988
why are you so obsessed with niggers, anon?

>>105853952
>came out in 2021
xisters is it over for me?

>>105853834 (OP)
>>some tranny stole kiwiflare and is getting famous for it
kiwifarms invented proof of work

>>105854071
yea, you just followed the trend instead of setting it

>>105853834 (OP)
>famous
absolutely nobody knows or cares who this person is. kiwiniggers are living rent free in your (male) skull

>>105854078
based on the post I thought it was kiwiforbiddenword
PoW is the best measure for bitcoin so far

We've got our set of lovely faces here

>>105854515
Drew is married to a troon so there’s no surprise there.

>>105854078
Neither did the troon who could a writeup for it in 404

>>105854515
>ebussy didn't immediately ask for usecase
fake review

>>105853881
kill yourself tranny nigger faggot
>>105853834 (OP)
fuck leafnigger troonware

>>105853844
this is the wrong kind of tranny. Soooo agp. Basically a man who thinks they are an anime girl. Not trutrans, just a deeply autistic dude. Her name is Christine Dodrill and you can see her speaking at conferences. Awful.

Someone needs to investigate how do these loser men end up transitioning and who puts those weird ideas into their head. This person is almost as weird as Chris Chan.

Don't get me wrong, I support trannies, but this is NOT a tranny. This is a man in a dress.

>>105856646
I hate that I've spent enough time paying attention to know the difference between twinks, ladyboys, and terminally online fags.

Honestly, at this stage anything is better than cloudflare.
But I need proof of this tranny.
Post feet and feminine benis.
Otherwise, it's fake and just another glownigger.

>>105853834 (OP)
This proves, again and again, that the only thing that truly matters is who you know.
Not what you do, not how good it is. Who you know.

He got a couple of articles written on him, and now it's getting everywhere.
It "helps" that he's a tranny and so is perfect for the new zeitgeist. First article I saw on this shit had She She She all over it and I knew that it was a troon and not some girl coder genius.

>>105856829
Actually this dude had a shit tonne of security articles before he was in this field.
I didn't know it was the same person until anon pointed out their tulpa chatgpt hallucinations in the other thread.

I was actually going through their articles years ago without realising they were doing this firewall shit.

There was something a bit gonzo and funny about the use of the personas too.
I thought they were kinda entertaining ngl.
Insane, yes, but entertaining.

>>105856802
Other thread >>105846413

>>105857015
Already found it.
Already know this person a bit, strangely.

I can't remember why I found them though.

>>105854078
For this particular use case it very much did, no one ever used or considerrd PoW for DDoS protection before them, you troon

>>105853834 (OP)
Null himself stole the idea for kiwiflare from other projects, so it's ok

>>105853834 (OP)
>NOOOOOOOOOOO THE KIWIKIKES INVENTED LE POW

>>105854515
>imbassin

>>105856646
Always funny to see trannies fail at passing so hard, they always end up with muh "they/them" pronouns.

>>105853881
seething troonjak award

>>105857053
cloudflare has been using it long before.

Why hasn't PoW been used for stopping DDoS sooner? If PoW is so effective then Cloudflare seems useless. I must be missing something here.

>>105857234
I wonder why

>>105858253
I don't get what you're trying to say. How would Cloudflare stall the adoption of PoW anti-ddos systems? If anything Cloudflare caused its adoption on kf because they got dropped by Cloudflare.

Why did this Cloudflare monopoly come to be if a simple PoW check is equally effective?

>>105854515
>ebussy writing
couldn't xhe ask for a write up instead of copying that forum post..?

>>105854096
The trend wasn't set by them.
Doctors, surgeons and psychologists all want their multi billion dollar industry to become a trillion dollar industry.
Can't have an industry this size if you don't have more customers.

>>105858286
Just ask yourself who has enough bandwidth to permanently ddos the entire internet. Create a problem and sell the solution. This is not about using the best technology.

>>105858482
it's the swiss, isn't it

>>105858482
PoW is supposed to stop ddos though.

>>105857234
How does PoW block DDoS you retard?>

>>105858590
That's what I'm asking.

>>105858647
Kiwiflare is described as an anti ddos measure for example

>>105858647
>>105857234
the PoW is meant to stop mass-scraping to save bandwidth not DDOs attacks

>>105858482
Delete your antisemitic post NOW

>>105858699
kf owner said he used ddosify to test Kiwiflare pow and it works. The whole point of Kiwiflare is cause Cloudflare dropped them.

>>105858647
well the answer is it does not, it just prevents scrapers from reaching your website so they cannot crawl every link and consume your bandwidth/steal your content/whatever
it does not protect from ddos at all

>>105858590
you combined it with a CDN to require the connecting client to spend some CPU time ($) to be allowed to connect to the server behind the CDN.

>>105856646
AGP troons are worse than truscum though

>>105856646
>her

>>105854534
Is that true? Any pics?

>>105858728
but that's a separate solution that alone prevents DDoS (assuming the CDN provides DDoS protection), PoW has nothing to do with it, there are two different solutions to two different problems that are implemented at two different stages of the communication between the client and the server

>>105858813
PoW is the "cost" raising function and is necessary (like captcha for cuckflare) to prevent asymmetric attacks against a server. If there is no cost, a connecting client can just repeatedly call compute functions on the server to DDoS since CDN only caches static assets.

>>105858850
merely serving the PoW can be a vector if inbound traffic > throughput that the server can handle
again, two different solutions to two different problems

>>105858933
Wouldn't serving only one PoW per IP until they solve it mitigate that? Only way I can see ddos working at that point is if the sheer amount of traffic from a botnet fucks up your server even if you ignore it all. I think this is how people got their IPs ddosed, not sure.

>>105858933
the PoW challenge needs to be served by the CDN for it to be completely effective. You can also serve it with your own server which will reduce the magnitude of the attack since the client can't call more expensive functions, but yes it's still vulnerable in this situation.

>>105858967
>Only way I can see ddos working at that point is if the sheer amount of traffic from a botnet fucks up your server even if you ignore it all. I think this is how people got their IPs ddosed, not sure.
yes, that's the kind of ddos that people mostly worry about
all the other things you can semi-mitigate through rate limits and what not but since people can pay very little money for high traffic attacks on your servers, none of this shit does actually solve the problem

>>105858967
Also could just use simple rate limit, which kf said they also used in combination with kiwiflare.

>>105858991
I don't know kf seems to be doing alright. So what, is cuckflare the only way to stop botnet flooding?

>>105859009
>So what, is cuckflare the only way to stop botnet flooding?
for 99.99% of people, pretty much yes
azure/gcp/aws have some sort of their own protection but only if you build on top of their super expensive infrastructure, cloudflare is pretty much the only effectieve service that offers ddos protection that's not tied to their infra by proxying the traffic to your services
worse yet, cloudflare only offers these free services for web-traffic, if you're running a service that needs ddos protection, you need to consult their sales for cloudflare magic transit which is their business offering with no fixed pricing and is very expensive

>>105859028
Sounds pessimistic. As I said kf is up and working fine without cuckflare and they no doubt have many people that want to ddos them. Reading their kiwiflare thread though it seems PoW is not the only measure, he has other measures in place too though I'm not sure what exactly.

>>105859071
kf has been consistently up and down for years, they're pretty much putting up a constant battle to stay online but their total downtime is beyond what anyone running a business that needs actual uptime guarantees would find acceptable

>>105859084
They weren't even on the regular internet (only accessible through TOR if I remember right) for the better part of a year but seem to have recovered and have been pretty consistent for the past year or more. I don't visit there regularly maybe once a month and it has been up every time, don't know how their downtime looks other than that.

On another note, when getting them booted off cuckflare wasn't enough, they went to the Tier 1 ISPs to try to censor the site at an infrastructure level

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/08/isps-should-not-police-online-speech-no-matter-how-awful-it

I mean fair point about business uptime but I also doubt most businesses receive this level of effort in trying to take their site down

>>105857104
>>105857097
Yes, but you'd think that a solution created by someone who has been booted from cloudflare and under constant attack would be given a look in a world that cared about practical solutions since he's under constant attack as opposed to some tranime pedo who just tee hee came up with the same thing.
Kiwiflare is based on an earlier FOSS project too right? Yet I don't see the faggots using Anubis or talking about it giving that project credit either.

It's almost like it's another troon op.

>>105859122
sure most people may not need it right now, but you don't need ddos protection until you do, and then what? you turn to cloudflare pretty much either way
i've been a target of ddos attacks running a small 100-200~ concurrent user service lol

>>105859148
Definitely this is overhyped and kind of weird, seems like a DEI initiative. PoW check is trivial to implement for any seasoned webdev, I don't know why you need this guy's anime logo version that sells non-anime version as a business option, or why it has several sponsors. It's like using a random guy's navbar library that has anime embedded in it.

>>105853834 (OP)
the bigger problem is that its a trash "waifu" literally a knockoff rozen maiden would do it but nooooooooooooo

>>105859178
why was this deleted

>>105859178
>Definitely this is overhyped and kind of weird, seems like a DEI initiative. PoW check is trivial to implement for any seasoned webdev, I don't know why you need this guy's anime logo version that sells non-anime version as a business option, or why it has several sponsors. It's like using a random guy's navbar library that has anime embedded in it.
What’s the matter, chud? Won’t use troonware? All my foss is trannyware.
t. Drew

>>105857171
I'd love to read the true unadulterated thoughts of a tranny who clearly can't pass and doesn't even seem to be making any efforts into it.
They're the main reason people hate trannies so much, they ruin their effort into blending in, they'll never be happy or respected, they're just trash. I'd really like to know what sort of mental gymnastics they go through in order to justify acting like a circus freak on a daily basis.

>>105858493
>>105858494
>>105858705
cloudflare (cia) is ddossing the entire internet, they also conveniently sell ddos protection services, result: 19.5 % of all websites in the entire world are behind their proxies.
the cia also offer tls from their proxies to the users without requiring tls from your servers to their proxies, this means that they can mitm every connection going through "your" servers.
even 4chan is affected by this, you are not anonymous here, they eavesdrop everything without a warrant.

>>105860043
>b-bbut I know the truth and can expose it here with no consequences even though they’re watching us all!

>>105856646
i love agp trannies though?

>>105854515
that the most ebussy post I've ever seen
never change

>>105858720
An actual DDoS happens on the transport layer (like a SYN-flood). Only an iptables DROP filter can save you there.
And if it is massive enough, the ISP of your datacenter has to blackhole you temporarily, to protect his service for other customers. Nothing you can do can save you there.
I personally experienced this three times by now.
The thing is, this is expensive. And they never run those for long, because they don't want their zombies in their botnet to be discovered.
So you pay lots of shekels, and get one ddos to kick kiwifarms off the internet for an hour?
Who the fuck cares! Just ignore it and wait it out!

Spaming http requests, while using far less zombies, however, is sustainable. You can do that indefinitely. Doesn't cost much and ISPs won't be bothered by it.
The POW will protect you against those.
Specifically:
Not the PoW, BUT the requirement to execute JavaScript before you can enter! You could just require them to execute randomly generated WebAssembly, and it would work just as well.

>>105860105
>tell the truth
>llm trained by the glowies comes to derail the topic by calling everyone a schizo
SSL added and removed here :^)

>>105853834 (OP)
>Making sure you're not a bigot!
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>Protected by Analis from Techsaaro. Made with :poop: in :flag_in:.
>Mascot design by INCELPHASE.

>>105862391
>Mascot design by INCELPHASE
made me kek

>>105853881
>>105853834 (OP)
>>105854078
>>105856802
>>105856829

Null didnt even invent kiwiflare software, he forked it from something else iirc

>>105862602
He forked it from dread's former anti-DDOS system.

>>105862631
This dread.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dread_(forum)

>>105862602
>>105862631
Wasn't it haproxy-protection?

>>105862703
Yes, so why does the tranny get credit for that?

>>105853881
ywnbaw