Literally just bought a new laptop with 32GB soldered ram.

>AI meme

>>105860119 (OP)
>Literally just bought a new laptop with 32GB soldered ram.
no you didn't
i saged your thread btw

>>105860181
>announcing sage

>paying money for a tracking device

>>105860119 (OP)
>soldered ram
Yikes!

>>105860119 (OP)
I fell for the 32GB of RAM meme and I never fucking use it. 16GB is still plenty unless you do very specific things. Gaming is not one of those specific things.

>>105860119 (OP)
just add another 32GBs of swap memory bro, look into it
>inb4 b... but windows
swap is called "virtual memory" on windows and you can set it up as well

>>105860181
>no you didn't
Yes I did nigger.
Bought and AMD T14s 7840U 32GB.
You're such a jaded bitter faggot.

well sure for the 1 application of running a huge LLM locally and using ram for extra context space more ram is useful

But do you need to? You can just rent tokens online

>>105860219
>You're such a jaded bitter faggot.
Who isn't?

>>105860119 (OP)
And having a local AI is not a luxury?

>>105860279
I'm not.

>>105860292
You are a faggot for sure. Jaded and bitter idk.

>>105860119 (OP)
4GiB is still fine, stop being a mindless consumer

If you are talking about AI, it doesn't really matter.
the AMD AI max, the 395 is so expensive you could have built a 5070 TI desktop PC that would destroy the AI max in AI (of course, you may be missing out on the battery / mobility, but the price is about the same).
I don't know how the 32gb model performs because every single reviewer I have seen has the 64gb version or higher, but I assume the 32gb model has the same problem that you can't load an LLM model using 100% of the allocated space, so instead of running a 24gb model, you can only run a 16gb or something.
That sounds bad but if the AI max could run a 24gb model, it would only run it at around ~7tk/s (use smaller model, it runs faster, so a 16gb model would be 10tk/s). That's 3x faster than running the AI on a regular CPU (similar speeds as a 4060 TI 16gb), but a 5070 TI runs like 30tk/s in theory IF it could store 24gb (more like 40-50tk/s with a 16gb model, and offloading it to a regular CPU to reach 24gb would be like 15tk/s).
The 395 is a very strong CPU however, it's the closest thing to a threadripper in a laptop (without the PCIE lanes), and it has an APU similar to a 4060 (but the 385 on the framework mini PC has 80-90% of the APU performance for a lot cheaper).
>>105860219
that's AMD phoenix
AMD AI 370 is strix point
AMD AI max is strix halo

>>105860119 (OP)
I use 6GB of ram, what am I missing?

>Technology advances
>Big corpos start hiring jeets for their software related shit
>Sudenly 16 cores, 64 Gib RAM and 2 TB SSDs aren't enough

>>105860370
Remember when hardrives had 2GB and where gigantic? I do. My 386DX4 had 40MB of disk space.

>>105860119 (OP)
>because some retard nigger told me so
also
you didnt think usecase->hardware
you though money->shiny thing
which is gay and consumerpilled

>>105860119 (OP)
>>105860469
(cont)
return it the fuck back and chose better next time
think what you wanna do with it
and then buy what allows you to

you 'd better buy a desktop so you have expansibility and you get generational upgrades for 500 bucks but dont count on me to explain everything to you
just fukken lurk /pcbg/
thats what its for

>>105860211
unless you wanna play MHWilds, then 16gb ramlets have issues with textures loading, enjoy your N64 textures

>>105860509
even when you brokram you
well
broke ram i guess
give me all the ram in the world its still not gonna be enough

theres usecases
theres machines, components
engineering
thats what engineering is about and we have it easy, as programmers

'FOR STRIX HALO' is why so it only applies for that

>>105860119 (OP)
i bought a 24GB macbook air, you are fine

>>105860509
How many GB of ram do I need to touch grass

>>105860541
640kb

>>105860540
apple silicon has built in hardware memory compression support, x86_64 has nothing like that only slow ass software based compression

>>105860119 (OP)
Palantir/NSA needs some extra RAM of your system

Not being able to upgrade storage and ram is deal breaker for me on a linux laptop

>>105860119 (OP)
What do you want to bet that the article has an affiliate link for this exact model and they want more money from the expensive one?

32Gb is fine btw. More likely you are never gonna use all of them

>>105860119 (OP)
>fucking pajeet devs
I miss the old web, 512MB was a plenty.

>>105861782
I remember when I could browse the web with 100 tabs open, and only 4gb of system ram

>>105860119 (OP)
>32GB is not enough
>AI
Niggas be running image gen shite on 16GB. The fuck they on about.

>>105860509
Did n64 have 16GB of RAM?

>>105860301
I'm not the one crying like a bitch calling someone a liar and then being proven wrong when they provide proof against your accusation.

>>105860119 (OP)
16 is plenty and 8 is still marginally enough in a majority of normies use cases.

>>105862176
Yeah but we're all faggots here, faggot.

>>105860219
>7840U
isn't 8xxx like 10x more tflops

>>105860219
>>105862535
my bad, it was 3xx that's 5x more compute

>>105860509
>unless you wanna play one of the sloppest shittiest modern games
...no i don't?
>12% positive ratings
oh noes, i must be missing out!!!!

>>105860509
>>105860119 (OP)
why do you all retarded faggots think this is a gaming board? There's nothing noteworthy or interesting in adding memory to a computer. Like OK, you can now run your shitty unoptimized software, what's your point nigger?
Only the most retarded and blackest of gorilla niggers care about this shit.

>>105860119 (OP)
>fuck me
are you cute?

I have 96GB but mainly only used because of VMs

>>105860211
If you're on a laptop where 8GB of ram is reserved for iGPU. You NEED it.

>>105863523
What do you need VMs for?

>>105864195
Running windows, Linux router, etc.

>>105860509
>unless you wanna play MHWilds
lmao, crapcum is a fucking joke of a company.

>>105860119 (OP)
I have 64gb ram and it's not enough.
256gb for the desktop when

of course. sloppy windows code. buy a mac. you'll only need 16gb.

>>105864441
That's bullshit, they made it up and the article doesn't make sense. That was a paid article to cover for them, nobody is threatening them so they moved the goal post by making the shills say it's Japanese players now.

>>105864441
>make the world's least optimized game
>make a presentation bragging about its optimization
??? what the fuck

>>105860119 (OP)
I mean, if you insist...

>>105860119 (OP)
imagine getting this piece of shit WITHOUT getting 128 GB

>>105860119 (OP)
>soldered ram
This is the problem. Planned obsolescence.

>>105865198
If 32gb of ram is not enough, then the problem is in the software, and the user (who thinks it's not enough). The solution is 32gb of ram, thus it's been soldered.

>>105865214
>32GB is enough
Sure, but for how many solar cycles?

>>105860191
What about sage'ing a sage post?

>>105865286
All of them, the sun is local.

>>105860509
>bing bing wahoo
Kek
>>105864441
>>105864486
>Obama awarding a medal to Obama
Dayum

>>105860333
bags of sand

>>105860119 (OP)
32 gigabytes? Are there seriously people with less than a terabyte? Where do they keep all their games and movies?

>>105860313
apus can run models you cant on a 5070ti, it might be slow, but it will actually run,

>>105860119 (OP)
I have never topped my 16gb ram.
all the games I play max out at 10-11gb

>>105865891
>confusing ram with storage
whew lad

>>105866300
most likely esl or retarded.

>>105860119 (OP)
>he fell for the laptop meme
aaaak

>>105865891
Oh my goodness! You're a VERY silly boy!

>>105866300
>>105866307
Please be nice to him, lads!

>>105860452
There was no such thing as 386DX4.

>>105866374
maybe he got confused with AMDs 386DX-40?

>>105860211
I bought a laptop with 128 gb of soldered main memory and I routinely use 48 gb or so, sometimes more.

>>105866417
for what use cases tho, do you use LLMs?

>>105866473
I'm learning to code, so I use a local model.

>Strix Halo laptop
>That's not a tiny overpriced 13" ANUS overheating tablet meme machine or 14" HP corpo laptop
>or spend thousands of dollars on a random chinky miniPC and hope it doesn't break
>or overpay for the framework desktop
seriously what happened to 16-18" mobile workstation laptops?

>>105866510
I hope you're aware of hallucinations, how you can't really trust the output of LLMs wrt factual questions? You can see it yourself when asking it about things you already know a lot, pretty disappointing imo. grab some books on libgen, 0 error rate in those lol.
either way, you should check out bigger models, they can remember more details

>>105866473
Game dev
Music production
Adobe stuff

>wtf why do 8gb gpus even exist anymore we need 12gb minimum!!!!!
>w-what do you mean 12gb of my ram is set aside for the igpu?? noooooo i have only 20gb left!