https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/

https://x.com/METR_Evals/status/1943360399220388093

>>105861357 (OP)
Get rid of the developer. Get the men out of the loop.

>>105861357 (OP)
this is obvious to any reasonable person (there are only a few hundred thousand reasonable people on the planet)

>>105861419
bbbuy hundreds marketers on orange reddit told me the opposite wtf

>observed result
>at best they're just as fast as they were before
lel

>>105861470
That doesn't matter. AI is being used as cover for more offshoring and importing more H1Bs here. Native software developers are being squeezed out, and this is their way of covering it up. You can scream for decades that AI isn't helping and it won't matter because the public believes that it is magic rather than Actually Indians.

>>105861357 (OP)
sounds like bullshit, actually indians are pretty fast now writing 8365th flappy bird clone in js

>>105861357 (OP)
Great for v0 prototyping, architectural reflection, vibing out a corpo slop UI.

further into prod the better it gets at providing really convincing slop you have to consume the code liability for before you land up rewriting it cause you got grifted in the 500 line addition it made that you skimmed.

biggest improvement things like claude and cursor can make is choosing consistence over performance. Making the same query before the west coast wake up vs peak hours is drastically different as they do secret throttling . a poor but consistent tool is easier to wield than something that really just proc's but you dont know the proc rate.

>>105861357 (OP)
>lazy people who outsource their work turn out to be slower than ones who don't
Gee, did you really need a study to tell you something that anyone could have told you for over a decade now?

>>105861744
>oh nooo, my productivity tool grifted me again into 500 lines and a goose chase for non-existant api
yup, even hypers now admitting the net result is negative, just work on your oroooomoting bro

>>105861357 (OP)
lolle, lmao even

>>105861560

Funny thing is they used the exact same meme for manufacturing.

>jobs bleeding out hard in the 90's/00's to Asia
>IT'S AUTOMATION IT'S MACHINES THERE'S MACHINES NOW THEY'RE DOING IT ALL

You just need one fulltime senior dev as AI reply reviewer to sift all the bs out and the productivity will increase, 200$ month plus one salary and you're golden and can run the whole conpany on H1Bs

>>105861793
>you just
no
youre the product
shut the fuck up and deliver

>>105861774
How many manufacturing CVs did you send out?

>>105861808
if your code base consists of more than one source code file you might need multiple reviewers for best results

>>105861818

>You can only think something is a good idea if you personally do it

Ok, so I guess welfare should be eliminated since "only" 15% of people are on it and need it, right? I also don't like janitorial work, trash collection, laying concrete, so those jobs should no longer exist.

>>105861818
this is retarded
let me flip this
>who doesnt want to be a milionaire
also
>lets dump existing proletraiat with cheaper labor
>t. tolerant left

ur neocons
only you have aoc whose tits i want to cum on
also in her ass
esp in her ass
c.o.t is optional

>>105861836
neocoons*

>>105861827
one file?
wtf?

someone should tell him to shut the hell up
he has good ideas
but he also talks out of his ass
i remember a cocoworker of his complaining that he puts everything into one file
its operational styles but i stick with something ide-agnostic
one function per file

>>105861840
spot on

>>105861829
>nooooo, we need the shit jobs... J-j-just because ok
luddites are retarded, replacing alarmists with chatgpt should be doable even right now tho, so lets go

>>105861893

You literally can't be a superpower and have no ability to produce and manufacture real things, anon. You can't. WW2 was won in the factories. What are you going to do, send in the bankers and insurance salesmen and nurses and welfare dependents? Faggot retard. Not to mention, 25% of Americans saying they want to work in a factory is 90 million people. That is a huge number.

There are people who do both of these things:

>how is China growing so fast?
>how can China build so much at will?
>how are Chinese cities popping up at a rapid pace?
>how is the Chinese middle class exploding in size?

and also

>ewwww yucky factory jobs that's so 1915 I want to work in an office and send emails all day

>>105861923
you're gonna be a proompter whether you like it or not, this is progress, you can pour concrete on your own dime

>>105861952

>he's an AItoddler

ok

>>105861357 (OP)
Holy shit the cope in the twitter replies are insane. People saying "it's cause they used Claude 3.7 instead of 4"
Do they seriously think a 0.3 model upgrade would REVERSE the trend?

>>105861829
>Ok, so I guess welfare should be eliminated since "only" 15% of people are on it and need it, right?
More than 15% think it should exist and be available to those thst need it. Nobody NEEDS a manufacturing job. They may need A job, but it's not up to you to determine they should have a manufacturing one, commie
For someone to be on welfare they just need to meet the criteria and apply. If you want more people to have welfare you just need to expand the criteria.
For someone to work in manufacturing they need to stop working somewhere else. Because you can't give them more hours in a day. Unemployment is at 4%. People are choosing the best possible job they can, and the free market has decided that's not in manufacturing.
>I also don't like janitorial work, trash collection, laying concrete, so those jobs should no longer exist.
Ideally? Yes. If trash collection could just be outsourced to some shithole and shipped back, that would be great, but it's a non-tradable service so it has to be done locally.

This is just classic gpu market bullshit. Everybody wants AMD to compete better and bring down prices. Nobody wants to buy AMD.

>>105862035
>can't give them more hours in a day
sure you can, just redefine day as being 36h, or slow down rotation of earth, there are many ways to accomolish this
>nnno, you just can't

>>105862035
totally doable, we already can impact climate after all, slowing down rotation with AI is totally doable (but is it good for climate?)

>>105861818
25% of Americans thinking they'd be better off working in a factory is 43 million people. The two questions don't have any quantitative correlation. 80-90% of Americans thinking America would be better off with more manufacturing jobs has no bearing on HOW MANY more jobs they think there should be. That said, 25% of working Americans thinking they're better off in a factory IS more Americans working in manufacturing. It's an OBSCENELY GREATER NUMBER MORE.

>>105862035

This country became a superpower due to manufacturing. It's decline has coincided directly with the decline of manufacturing. You can't be a power without the ability to build. You can't have a strong middle class without the constant availability of good solid manufacturing work.

You're a fucking retard. This is a sick country. "Commie" all you fucking want they had to strike down pre existing trade protections for this to even happen. Your historic heritage America protected it's local industry.

>>105862157

>drooling neocon/neolib turds will look at that and say it's safe for a "world superpower" to be composed entirely of nurses and uber drivers

>>105862157
country of proompters will win world war against country that manufactures their weapons by asking AI how to win ez

lol AI fags will never recover

>>105861357 (OP)
I chortled really nastily at that.

>>105861357 (OP)
Actually embarrassing.

it's over

>>105862157
yeah well like you see we have transcended manufacturing and transitioned to a services economy,and now as we export all the service jobs or bring in h1bs to replace Americans we are uh once again transcending uhh.... and then we'll be a super power with... uhhh.... trust the plan goy!

>>105862219
>you start subverting their population with mass migration...
no grok, we need to win right fucking now not in decades

only nocoders are surprised by this

writing code is the EASY part
reading and debugging code is the HARD part which becomes even harder when it's someone or something else's code

>>105862302
>oh well sounds like you're fucked, if you need help with anything else I would be more than happy to help

>>105862157
it stayed a superpower due to ditching manufacturing
>by county
who gives a fuck? counties don't work, people do

>>105862303
>reading and debugging code is the HARD part
only if you suck at algorythmics
otherwise the hard part is getting your subordinates to do what you want em to do

>>105862463
kek chinks destroyed the whole narrative with rare metal ban, muh 150% tariffs gone in an instant, suddenly yhe big bad chyna gets better deal than 'allied' countries kek

>>105862490
yeah review the 10k bullshit loc per hour a shitty llm can produce, do you like reviewing rng outputs, it's pretty much this 99% of the time, being nondeterministic you can ask llm 1000 times, maybe one of the outputs works, now go review 1000 random bs it throws out, best way to spend your time as senior dev

>>105861836
>let me flip this
>>who doesnt want to be a milionaire
what?
>>lets dump existing proletraiat with cheaper labor
>>t. tolerant left
let's let people choose what they want to work in themselves, and and not bitch if they choose higher value added, more comfortable jobs
t. free enterprise loving neolib

>>105861818
Over 25% of the population working in manufacturing would be incredibly huge, and there's no way to support that outside of a war economy

Not sure what that chart is trying to say

>>105862525
>umf umf im actually retarded
how convenient
>>105862516
even worse than an indian intern
thats pretty much my experience too
im not surprized in the slightest by ops numbers

and i expected that
an llm is an interface when you think about it

>>105862128
then... why won't they go and work in manufacturing?
I asked that anon how many CVs for manufacturing jobs he sent out. The answer is 0. For 99% of that 25% the answer is 0 too. Manufacturing jobs don't just fall out of the sky, it's easy to THINK you'd be better off in a manufacturing job, it's another thing to actually go and get one.

>>105862516
the biggest issue noone notices, there are infinite ways to write a fucking 'hello world' program, the fact you need to spend senior dev time to click no on 99% of random implementations is in no eay saved time even if marketers are telling you rng machine is thinking (it has 80% success at pong clones, amazing)

>>105862516
>its an interface
yeah a fancy one
like an auto complete
and then they expect an autocomplete to reason...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdG4gUTowXc
(dont mind the bombastic title, its act very interesting)

>>105861357 (OP)
Cope study, lol. AI won.

>>105862540
on the left you have the percentage of stupid, but honest people
on the right you have the percentage of stupid, but dishonest people
If they were better off in a factory, they'd work in a factory. Getting a manufacturing job is not difficult, they're aren't lacking education or ability to perform it. They can just apply and get it.

The difficult part would be getting a manufacturing job that magically matches/exceeds their current compensation, with the same/less amount of work. Or one that's the exact same thing you did 30 years ago, without any requirement to relocate, aka what all the rustbelt losers want, since they paused their life then and refuse to move on

>>105862303
>only nocoders are surprised by this
Yup, I can't even imagine how "AI" could possibly help me work faster to any major degree, especially on a project I'm already familiar with. It's usefulness is highly limited to basically being a better search engine, then again this is also tempered by the fact that it lies to you and presents made up information as fact way more frequently than I run into wrong answers when searching normally. I guess the IDE now has a somewhat improved autocomplete feature that sometimes suggests like 1 correct line of code (not always) instead of just autofilling method names and shit, so that's kinda nice I suppose, but it's really nothing major.

It's really such a middling and disappointing thing.

>one study peddling an accepted narrative
>OMG IT'S SO OVER FOR AI EVEN THOUGH GROK 4 JUST RELEASED AND IS BTFOING EVERYONE
Get back to flipping burgers, artfags.

>>105862661
no artfags involved
its just that you didnt try to program shit with an aiiii-lmaoo, ever
bc youre a retard
you could have tried at least
but youre just such a developmental

>>105862661
you wanna convince people ?
post an ai project
its supposed to x1000 code capacity, demonstrate it

>>105862640
>It's usefulness is highly limited to basically being a better search engine, then again this is also tempered by the fact that it lies to you and presents made up information as fact way more frequently than I run into wrong answers when searching normally
It also doesn't give you any related background information just code, completely unaware of any internal mechanics or gotchas.

>>105862785
All retards crying about AI are artcucks mad a machine can illustrate better than them

>>105861818
burgers absolutely lose their minds when they see this chart
it's hilarious

>>105861357 (OP)
>Have to wait 10 minutes for the AI to answer the question
>Then have to spend 5 hours fixing the issues in the code
>This is somehow better for suits than just spending 3 hours researching and writing the code by yourself
Do we need any more proof that this is just an elaborate scam?

>>105861357 (OP)
>when AI is allowed, developers spend less time actively coding and searching for/reading information, and instead spend time prompting AI, waiting on and reviewing AI outputs, and idle.

Most importantly it makes you feel like you are productive, when actually productivity is reduced.

How is it possible for some people to be smart enough to be good programmers yet stupid enough to fail to take good advantage of these tools? It's like you're an experienced horseback courier who's just been shown a car for the first time, and your reaction is "the horse can handle rough terrain that the car completely fails at". Just a total failure of imagination and forward-thinking.

>it's good at typescript but shit at C++
So use typescript!
>it's good when given small tasks to achieve but struggles to break down something larger
So give it small tasks! Break large ones down yourself. Better yet, ask the AI to break it down to steps, fix its mistakes, then feed those steps back to it one at a time.
Maybe write tooling to do that. Maybe use AI to help write the tooling!
>it's good for bootstrapping small projects but struggles with huge legacy codebases
So split it up into more microservices, or keep it monolithic and just refactor your shitty project so that the LLM doesn't need to dance across 100 files to get the context it needs. Makes it easier for humans too!

Also,
https://metr.org/Early_2025_AI_Experienced_OS_Devs_Study.pdf
>ctrl-f "Cursor": 101 results
>ctrl-f "Claude Code": 0 results
Fuck sake

>>105862878
My wagecage has been having training sessions on how to use this shit, and it basically boils down to
>know how you’re going to implement this task, then explain it to the agent in words instead of just writing the code, then correct it when it inevitably fucks up something important
I can’t help but notice that it’s just adding extra steps for not very much added benefit

>>105863999
>nocoder have an opinion

>>105861818
> 20-30% of amerifucks want to work in a factory
> 9% of amerifucks do
> 80-90% of amerifucks think more amerifucks should work in factories
> an amerifuck thinks this data is inconsistent
i fucking send cvs to factories to work on programming and qa and no one is fucking hiring because amerifucks are too busy fucking each other in every possible fuck hole to build fucking anything, nigger

>>105864211
No, SWE with ~10 yoe.

>>105863999
They should have used gemini cli instead

>>105861827
>>105861869
I made a listing generator that will suck up all the code files in my project and turn it into a single file so I could feed it into Gemini easier.

>>105863999
the only sensible thing you said here is to give LLM small tasks. It's obvious to anyone that is not retarded. But your other takes are very dumb. You don't choose language "because AI is good with it". This is like choosing Visual Basic for a project, because non-devs are familiar with some Excel and can read some Basic. The only reason "AI" is good with typescript is because most projects on github are webshit. Typescript is a verbose language on top of a broken language with retarded rules. There are better choices. Java or C# while hated here is solid choice and there are many devs available.
>So split it up into more microservices, or keep it monolithic and just refactor your shitty project
I can't even describe how shitty take it is. Legacy codebases aren't a thing that you can simply "just refactor". As for the proposal to split something into microservices is one of the shittiest suggestions possible and some projects done exactly that, because of retarded architects that had such proposal. The problem is not the size of the codebase and never was. It is a problem when the system is so large it's not possible to scale vertically. This is not your average project. But some people cargo culted the migration to microservices without technical reasons for it. The outcome of such decision is that it works far worse, is less reliable and a chore to work with. The microservices is a dumb name. The Amazon and others companies of such scale move to microservices architecture was justifiable in their case. But what they call a microservice is probably of the size of a regular monolith. But dumb cargo cult developers make a microservices of 10 files and make 20 microservices tighly coupled with each other which is the opposite. They need to be loosely coupled to work. You get all the overhead of it without any advantages and introducing issues, because of inexperienced devs and other dumb ppl. Industry-wide push for microservices is a dumb fad.

>>105864797
I did the same thing but a colab notebook
>zip project
>drag into notebook
>hit go
It even functions as version control

>>105864797
Do you find this gives better results compared to using Claude Code/Cursor/etc?

>>105864876
Anyone still doing that shit hasn't used an llm in there terminal yet

>>105861357 (OP)
lol
lmao

>>105863999
>bro just refactor your entire codebase into microservices so AI slop might give you better output
lmao maybe it would be easier to just write the code yourself

>>105864876
I don't know, I just have Gemini Pro 2.5 free from my university so I use that. I haven't looked at any of the API shit.

probably because when you're actually typing in the code yourself, you think about it to avoid having to type too much code. the ai can generate an unlimited amount of code that doesn't do anything.
so you get a bunch of inefficient solutions you have to debug but it's a lot of code so you feel like you accomplished a lot

>>105864849
>You don't choose language "because AI is good with it".
For new projects, sure you do. It's going to be a serious consideration from now on.
Typescript is actually a decent language, subject to some caveats (need to use good tools, specifically a very strict eslint config). Having used both, I'd definitely rather write TS than C#.
>Legacy codebases aren't a thing that you can simply "just refactor".
You can. It involves a lot of work and some risk, but it's perfectly possible. It just depends on where your priorities lie.
If you're stuck with an ancient pile of shit that you can't use modern tools on and which AI can't understand, and your competitors have a cleaner codebase which they can change more easily and with more confidence, then you're going to fall behind.
>microservices
I actually prefer monolithic if it's structured well, and when microservices are used I prefer when they're stateless.
But identifying a chunk of functionality in your shitty codebase to replace with calls to a new, well-written microservice can be a decent way to make some kind of progress.

>>105864972
>It's going to be a serious consideration from now on.
lolnope

>>105864972
>If you're stuck with an ancient pile of shit that you can't use modern tools on and which AI can't understand, and your competitors have a cleaner codebase which they can change more easily and with more confidence, then you're going to fall behind.
The OP of the very thread you’re in says this is the opposite of reality

>>105864667
yeah I believe you

>>105861357 (OP)
Meh, i just paste jira tickets in opencode.
Wait 2 minutes and check the diff.

In like 70% of tasks of my meme job it does it.

I use the gained free time to do work on my own shit instead, idgaf about the job.

>counterfeiting skills actually is a waste of time if you already have those skills
no shit!

>>105861419
>there are only a few hundred thousand reasonable people on the planet
I don't want to sound smug or anything, but how? I can't be special. I don't get how this insanely fake and gay world keeps going at this rate.

>>105861357 (OP)
*tap tap*
That'll be $200 + tip/month for my metal box that is technically defined as a bullshit generator which makes you retarded, psychotic, and kill yourself.

>>105861560
Pretty sure it's the opposite.

>>105861357 (OP)
>When developers are allowed to use AI tools, they take 19% longer to complete issues—a significant slowdown that goes against developer beliefs and expert forecasts. This gap between perception and reality is striking: developers expected AI to speed them up by 24%, and even after experiencing the slowdown, they still believed AI had sped them up by 20%.
Fucking kek. AItards aren't gonna be happy about this

the economy is fucked

>>105866128
Obviously, it won't work if you try to use AI as more than just a quicker alternative to google search.

>>105862852
It made me a fully functional code from a non-trivial paper posted on arxiv in an afternoon ~1K loc. Devs literally wouldn't believe I wasn't the one writing that shit. That's how large the gap is between autists who can't prompt for shit no matter how well they can code and prompt masters who can replace a full team on their own. Btw my current project is highly complex IaC stuff with AWS that even SO can't help with it and it's going pretty well (and don't tease me about the security retard, it's bulletproof)

>>105866376
>'highly complex' boilerplate
kek

The only reason AI is being widely adopted is the corporate goons who make decisions are completely disconnected from the work that goes on in their company.

>>105866376
fixing bugs on open source web dev project is more complex than whatever you were doing

>>105863359
thanks doc

>>105863999
How do you know you are not falling for the same illusion of productivity as the people on the study?

>>105861357 (OP)
but it made juniors redundant, you just need 'experts' and AI assists
~50% jobs cut

>>105861357 (OP)
Tried Copilot Github yesterday and for every shitty request you have to wait 5-20 minutes. Of course youre going to end up slower and dont forget about all the mistakes the "AI" makes that youll have to fix.

Reminds me of people who say command line is more efficient than gui.

>>105861829
Nobody actually likes thrash collection or laying concrete
People with those jobs do it because it's relatively easy and gives some spare time for things that they actually like

>>105868172
I love thrash collections

>>105867058
And that doesn't pay shit retard

>>105861357 (OP)
I don't know about coding but I definitely see it with putting together correspondence, boss explicitly encourages ai use and the coworkers I have that listened take way longer to write things now because they try and finangle an ai for a 2 paragraph writeup that could do themselves in a fraction of the time

>>105868219
thats kinda orthogonal to the initial discussion
which was the ability of the ai to produce code

>>105868219
>>105868326
(cont.)
speaking of which
wym "based off a paper"?
did you feed it a document and then it figured out the rest?

>>105862636
manufacturing doesn’t pay well. machine shops for example had wages lower than fucking grocery baggers a few years ago

this is because we have to compete with chinese sweatshops and 35 years of boomers moving manufacturing to third world shitholes. bringing back manufacturing doesn’t mean people want to continue working in these conditions, the conditions are the reason manufacturing is dying in the first place

>>105861357 (OP)
Yes, that matches my experience as well.
In languages i am fluent in, asking AI for anything is just taking time and slow and needs fixing.

In languages i am not fluent in however, AI does help me start off.
But the tipping point is reached quickly. If you work on something a lot, it is much faster to actually learn it to not need AI.

>>105866128
Genuinely such a weird phenomenon that you see here a lot. Someone posts some dogshit slop, people call it out and then they cope by saying the prompt was wrong or some shit.
Weird!

>>105868434
Very true. I'm not the most experienced with Bash, and the Google Search Gemini prompt generally suggests the right utilities for the task I want to accomplish, which otherwise might have been a real challenge to find. It tends to give a feasible command-line invocation for them as well.

Of course, my next search is "man foo" and I read the actual docs from there.

>>105868405
Same applies to farm labor. Turns out nobody wants to work for Mexican wages so they can pay American prices. Why can't they get paid American wages? Hey, asking too many questions, bub, it's the Free Market speaking.

>>105861357 (OP)
so don't use it and be 19% faster

>>105861357 (OP)
Ludite cope

>>105864972
If you think refactoring a giant legacy codebase that uses proprietary shit noone else uses, lacks proper documentation, has 5 different frameworks cobbled together alongside custom solutions after 30 years of development you are delusional. You have probably never worked on actual legacy project if you think refactoring is simple. It would take years to rewrite such system from scratch, but it's not possible to do, because no company would want to freeze feature development for 2-3 years. All you can do is develop new features in another newish tech stack and gradually replace old functionalities. It takes years as well. And when you are done it would be considered legacy from webshit point of view where everything changes every 6 months.
>If you're stuck with an ancient pile of shit that you can't use modern tools on and which AI can't understand, and your competitors have a cleaner codebase which they can change more easily and with more confidence, then you're going to fall behind.
Not everyone builds SAAS startups. Some projects actually are useful and were made specifically to fill company's special requirements. Not a bait for investors and acquisitions. They are part of the system that they depend on. It's like saying you can just simply replace Windows with Linux and all your application will just work. They can look to outsource, but it would take as much time and money to do a switch as refactoring the legacy system. And it comes with a huge risk. The new vendor might be awful and their system will be worse in every facet. It's safer to stick with what you have and just steadily develop new features in something more modern and integrate it with the big ball of mud until the modern parts stand on their own. Who in their right mind would move from Java to TS? You lose excelent tooling for subpar webshit garbage tooling. Most sensible move is to go into Spring Boot. You can still use JMS/JMX adjacent tools by being in Java ecosystem etc.

>>105869478
you should ask chatgpt to help you spell luddite saar

>>105869478
The interesting thing about the actual historical Luddites is that they weren't opposed to new technology at all.
They just opposed cheap slop from the early crappy machines that couldn't match the quality standards of the textile worker guilds at the time.

>>105861818
This isn't even inconsistent. Our Nation as a whole would be better off if we had a stronger manufacturing industry within our borders however those jobs are generally unpleasant for the individual for a variety of reasons so obviously Americans would prefer not to do them.

>>105861827
File representation for source is dated anyway. Source should be stored in code-aware database and rendered as desired. This should have been the promise of LSP, to standardize a new way of storing and representing sources but instead retards continue designing tooling for dinosaurs.

>>105861357 (OP)
This doesn't surprise me at all. AI is like so many other "productivity" or "efficiency-oriented" tools (be it meme editors/IDEs, keyboards, tiling window managers, etc.)--is has an ergonomic benefit that is mistaken for an efficiency benefit. That is, the tool *feels* nicer to use, but isn't actually any *faster* to use. In the case of AI, you get the perception of increased efficiency because you can describe a problem in plain english, and instantly receive an answer without having to put in any thought or work yourself--at least, initially. By the time you've tard-wrangled the AI into giving you an answer that actually works, you've practically written the fucking code yourself anyway.

>>105861357 (OP)
I'm not gonna lie, most of the time I just tell Claude to delete his attempts and I either manually edit it or I tell Claude exactly what to write. I think I'll go back to only using Claude for very simple shit like making forms or one off scripts. I've been burned too many times by his stupidity.

>>105863999
We are doing these things you dumbass retard. The point is the stuff that takes the most time is the stuff AI sucks at. And breaking the problem down into steps and prompting correctly takes just as much or more time than just writing the code because you have to interpret and understand what the LLM is doing because they often do shit that will break the system. I'm tired of you turd world tutorial-level coders shitting up the internet with your retarded takes.

>>105864849
>on top of a broken language with retarded rules
You better not be talking about JS you tasteless pleb

>>105862463
>by county
It's probably the most granular dataset available that's consistent across the country. That you dismiss it because of this indicates any other opinions you hold are likely invalid.

>>105861357 (OP)
AI will unironically be forced to use the UNIX philosophy.
It will have to stick to small, specific tasks otherwise it will fuck up and hallucinate it’s way to failure.
Compare an AI generating a small portrait (good enough as long as it doesn’t draw the hands) vs AI trying to draw a landscape or comic page (completely lacking in coherency, worthless 99% of the time.)

>>105871779
another JS script kiddie butthurt
JS is merely good enough language
and the only reason we use it is because we are stuck with it in the browser

>>105861409
I think this is a genius idea! Remove all forecast and overlook of committed code! Yes! Absolutely genius! They should especially do this in fields that specialize in programming and maintaining nuclear facilities and the creation of CPUs! Don't want your humans having any risk of getting cancer or accidentally making one minor mistake on such a delicate process now, do you?

>>105861818
You can make this argument for any job. Most people dont want to join the military, according to your logic we should be rid of our military because of that.

>>105872534
The military has so much fucking corruption in it we should remove it and start over anyways.

>>105872720
The solution is to actually start punishing corruption. If corruption in public office was punished with hefty fines, prison time, or even execution, you'd suddenly find that there was a lot less of it. All western governments are simply petrified of sternly enforcing anything.

>>105873313
>start punishing corruption
That sounds like something the people in charge would not be happy with.

>>105871971
its not even good enough thats why typescript exists at all, thats why we had coffeescript and whatever else
raw JS is completely unmaintainable garbage once you get past a certain project size
nobody expected the web to support gigantic reactive front ends and nobody shouldve decided we should take this language we use to make pictures spin when you click on them and start writing web servers with it so we can pay 1 salary for 2 jobs