Thread 105862312

>Austrian investigators will soon be allowed to buy malware (“Bundestrojaner”), infiltrate citizens' devices, and monitor them. Uninvolved third parties, including operators of messenger services, will be obliged by law to secretly participate in the surveillance of others. Suspicion of a criminal offense is not required.

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Austria-National-Council-approves-federal-Trojan-horse-10481827.html

literally 1933

>>105862312 (OP)
Horrendous

>>105862606
>Suspicion of a criminal offense is not required.

>>105862606
you should have cameras in every room! let the government see everything you do!
you have nothing to hide, right? everyone should be totally comfortable with exposing every facet of their existence at all times because they aren't hiding anything!

>>105862629
So? Its not like a policeman stopping and searching you. Its non invasive, it all runs in the background.

>>105862665
This is just some software to monitor internet traffic and computer usage. You sound silly by blowing it up into a problem that its most definitely is not.
A camera in every room of your house is nothing alike this.

>>105862312 (OP)
Is Austria the first country which dared to do this officially? I mean, planting spyware on peoples devices, even when there is no suspicion of doing illegal stuff?

I think this is the most totalitarian law which has been passed in the western world so far.

>>105862704
Privacy is a human right and your stale bait is bad

>>105862780
>I mean, planting spyware on peoples devices, even when there is no suspicion of doing illegal stuff?
No but they always were in some grey area or did it on crossing the border

>>105862725
It is literally pegasus tier software. But this time, every austrian citzen can have it and the glowies have officially the law on their side.

>>105862606
>It's okay because it's only targeting criminals!
>No, the government would /never/ arbitrarily declare things as illegal!
Okay anon

>>105862787
>Privacy is a human right and your stale bait is bad
there is no such thing as human rights, human rights are just privileges that the government decided to grant you or is too afraid of taking from you.

>>105863021
>There no such thing
>It's only (thing)

>>105862312 (OP)
Europe is becoming the new leader of the "free world"

>>105863059
And who decided that privacy is human right and who is gonna grant it to you?

>>105862312 (OP)
Once a nazi always a nazi

>>105862312 (OP)
So? This only affects people that have sick shit to hide.
>BUT I HAVE A RIGHT TO COMMIT CRIMES
No you don't?

>>105863124
Calm down Jeremy.

>>105863107
Everyone has accepted your concession.

>>105862312 (OP)
>just yuropoor things
kek, money and free speech isn't everything right?

>>105862312 (OP)
lol, we have this in China for years, get with the times Europeans

>>105862606
criminals will start using beos
checkmate

>>105862312 (OP)
they already tried to pass it 6 years ago
https://www.courthousenews.com/austrian-court-strikes-down-trojan-horse-surveillance-law/

When enough people have those upcoming brain chips, they will pass laws that allow mandatory memory scanning and "live brain feed" which includes all 5 senses to be monitored at all times.

Future AI and tech in general is gonna make 1984 look pleasant in comparison.

>>105863021
> there is no such thing as human rights

Human rights are God given.
A country with laws that violate your rights is in rebellion against God.

>>105862606
Infringing on the privacy of your citizens without letting them even know about it is... le GOOD.
Mass surveillance has never worked.

>>105862780
United States and Israel have been doing this for at least 30 years. Israel has already a big spyware industry, the contracts must be approved by their minister of defence before selling them to foreign entities or governments.

>>105862606
that meme against jews you just posted on that chinese cartoon forum? criminal offence, get ready to be fined & jailed

>>105862704
>>105862704
A policeman isn't even allowed to search you with no reason.
Checking your driver license isn't the same thing as getting into your property (even car) to snoop around.
Cops aren't even allowed to open the trunk of your car, they ask you to do that and you can refuse that.

>>105866618
Which God? The same Abrahamic God that killed almost everyone on earth with a flood? The same God that told people to cast their kids out if they're being difficult?

>>105862704
making an unbreakable safe with a custom key that can't be forced without destroying the content has never been illegal in any western country.
what's illegal is owning illegal things inside the safe. and even then the police needs a suspicion that you own these things to open the safe. and if they can't open it the capacity of a judge to coerce you into opening it yourself varies greatly from country to country.

>>105864338
Hopefully the courts will strike it down again, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

>>105862312 (OP)
>secretly
they're doing it out in the open though? just obey the law and you'll be fine