Thread 105863395

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Build_a_PC&diff=55476&oldid=55400

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8

>CPU
Budget (inc. gaming): 7500F, 7600/X, 9600/X
Gaming: 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 9700/X, 7700/X
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
Premium: 9950X3D
Intel: If deeply discounted (13/14th gen -K CPU BIOS update required)

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
Dual tower: A620 PRO SE, Peerless Assassin 120 SE V3, NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock AM5 board issues are still reported; BIOS must be updated before CPU installation

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x64GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580, SN770
High end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, used card
Mid range: RX 9060 XT 16GB, 5060Ti 16GB
High-performance 1440p & Mid-range 4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: RTX 5090, used 4090 or 3090 Ti

>PSU
Budget: Corsair CX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: KTC H24T09P
1440p: Acer XV271U M3, KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
4K: Gigabyte M27UA/M27UP, Samsung Neo G8 (miniLED), ASUS PG32UCDM (QD-OLED), PG32UCDP (WOLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>> >>105822033

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid-range: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 G2, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>105852927

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super rumors: 5070 Ti Super 24GB, 5080 Super 24GB, 5070 Super 18GB

KTC M27T6 (1440p miniLED) promotional pricing until August ($300 US)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F7Q22V3W
Review link (use translator): https://chimolog.co/ktc-m27t6/

>Omissions
RTX 5070 Ti: buy if you need CUDA, if you value DLSS/Reflex that highly, and if the 5060 Ti 16GB or 5070 isn't performant enough.
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: current 9070 prices in the US are too close to the 9070XT's.

>Product Notice
AOC Q27G40XMN: nice budget 1440p miniLED monitor but inconsistent QC.
Bad one causes DisplayHDR setting to look overbrightened and desaturated when applying the best local dimming option.

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

Avoid updating Gigabyte motherboard's RGB controller firmware, it can disable board features such as Q-Flash Plus.

>Additional PSU Reviews
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies

For PSU tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?usp=sharing

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD&manufacturer=&pp=25&order=date
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Others
Leave constructive feedback to help improve the OP (including news worth sharing).
Share PC building-adjacent interesting/silly images for the next OPs.

Starting the thread off right : The 9070xt is slower than a base 5070 ($550) in the only game that actually matters when you build a new pc, Cyberpunk with RT Overdrive enabled.

8GB ram is all you need

>>105863452
Cyberjunk

>>105863398
>inconsistent QC
every monitor these days it's a shitshow

>>105863464
Well you definitely dare

>>105863452
>CyberShitstain 2077 with faRTy OverDrive

>>105863452
>the only game that actually matters when you build a new pc
Right, but I'm more interested in games that actually matter when I start actually using it instead of jerking it to benchmarks.

>>105863452
5 years later Nvidia will still be using Cyberpunk in their GPU marketing

>>105863395 (OP)
Cat OP is back?

>>105863547
Edgerunners 2 is coming soon so expect another 5 years of it

>>105863547
>>105863554
She's making me run on that edge too(2) if you get what I mean...

>>105863482
>>105863502
>>105863528
Cope and seethe, AMD at their best still can't deliver on what a budget Nvidia card can, visuals that are straight from the year 2077.
>>105863547
5 years from now we'll be on the witcher 4 with ultimate path tracing with ai driven neural textures, while Radeon bros are still jerking off to their "real" native frames.

>>105863578
>5 years from now
I'll just wait™ for the newer and stronger cards.
Imagine building a PC for Witcher 4 in 2025, kek.

>>105863673
>Waitfagging when he could be experiencing the future of pc gaming now for as little as $550 (like 2 weeks worth of groceries in the post Biden era)
Foolish.

>>105863673
>waitfagging
yeah because all those 4090 owners really missed out when 3 years later their 4090s were worth more than what they bought them for

Is there a better or just as good monitor as the upcoming gigabyte mo27q28g that I could get from the sale on Amazon within the same price range maybe? I only have a 4080 GTX super so I don't even know if I can do 4k.

>>105863769
do you ever use upscaling of any kind

>>105863727
Completed it on Intel Arc.
Also completed too.

>>105863724
My current video card is already good enough to play all the new games.
There's 0 point in building a new pc right now to prepare for Witcher 4.

>>105863850
In games? I don't think so.

>>105863727
>360 watts
>quake 2
>>105863870
Prepare to Stutters edition? Also it will be much worse than 3, my guess its something like Plague Tale in open world.
Also i waiting for Witcher 1 remake. Thats based game.

>>105863907
then 4K Ultra is out of the question

>>105863959
I mean I could use upscaling, just probably not for some games. I can't really say what the 4080 Super is capable of.

I bought a Fractal North but now I'm worried this thing is going to collect a lot of dust with no top dust filter. I'm using three 120mm intakes in front and one rear exhaust. Would adding a top exhaust fan help? I probably should have went with an AIO with a radiator for the top.

>>105863987
return it for the torrent, I don't like cases with mesh top panels for the same reason.

>>105858210
>wanting to get the 2k experience or should i stay with 1080p?
>Okay but 2k == 1080p. So not quite sure what you want to say here
Stop being an obtuse faggot you know he means 1440p.

>>105863428
My friend keeps trying to talk me into doing it, he bought is and is always complaining about it doing weird things. I built my first one and want to build my second one. I don't like the thought of some sweaty jeet rubbing his poo dna all over every inch of my pc and it being there forever.

>>105863452
>starting the thread off right
>with brand wars
Should be a bannable offense.

>HDD shipped & sold by newegg
>arrives in weird packaging
>looks wrong (but label is correct info and looks to be factory applied)
>drive itself does not look right, wrong # of screw holes
>plug it in, correct name but capacity is wrong (2TB instead of 12TB)
>not recognized by manufacturers utility
>not recognized by windows
I thought you were immune to this shit as long as you don't go 3rd party seller?

>>105864063
That's why you always record opening tech stuff you order online. So you have video proof of the scam.

>>105864063
>arrives in weird packaging
already over
was it open box?
either way
return and refund
use shipped and sold by Amazon only or go to a brick and mortar
even ebay is more reliable than pooegg

>>105864092
>That's why you always record opening tech stuff you order online. So you have video proof of the scam.
This shouldn't be necessary. If a retailer refuses to take back the item in the situation that the other posted narrated you should never buy anything from them ever again, and also sue them if you live in a country with proper consumer laws i.e. not burgerland

>>105864062
Not a brand war, what I've said is 100% correct objectively speaking and useful to someone building a pc
I've positively contributed to the zeitgeist with my post

>>105864122
>was it open box?
new. it was a replacement for one of 2 drives I purchased just a week prior. Both of those were genuine but one of them was actually fucked, like the platters were shattered or something, so I had to return it. Those arrived in proper consumer packaging with a manual, screws, etc. This replacement version arrived in a cardboard box with no manual, no screws, in a "water tight" bag rather than an anti-static one, etc

yeah I already refunded and boxed it up with my shipping label. First time this has happened with newegg, I've ordered thousands of dollars worth of shit there

Is there a specific type of usb I should use to install windows on a new pc? I don't have any usb drives and I'll need to buy one.

>panic purchased 9070 since lowest priced was in limited supply (700)
>literally as I go to the mailbox
>9070xt in stock at 720
>9070s drop to 40 dollars cheaper.
>delivery comes after prime day and prices will probably jump back up
I paid a very costly price. I will never doubt you wait gods.

>>105863464
>9950x3d
>liquid freezer 3
my nigga
i got strix b850-f because it's pcie setup seemed less complicated, i do kinda wish it had post code display tho

>>105864332
always wait for prime day and black friday and sometimes during december too
it's the only time these PC retailers drop their prices the rest of the time they meme about "short supply" and "MSRP is fake"

posted about not being able to get into bios on my new build yesterday, ty to the anons who gave advice

minor progress, after disconnecting the gpu I was able to get into bios and update + set pcie slot to gen4. reseated gpu, tested with both 12 cables that came with the PSU, then tested with the 4:1 adapter that came with the 5090 and it managed to get into bios ONCE. then moved it from the table to my desk and connected kb + boot drive and it's now stuck on POST again

the power to the 5090 seems fine, all of the fans/lights/lcd screen light up and it's playing the stock animations. I'm not sure if theres any easy way to confirm that the PSU is giving it consistent power. I think my next step is to open my current desktop and move my 3060 over and see if it will boot with that. any other suggestions are appreciated

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE ATX AM5 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: Gigabyte AORUS MASTER GeForce RTX 5090 32 GB Video Card
Case: Lian Li O11 VISION COMPACT ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Lian Li EDGE 1300 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

>>105864385
I've heard black friday actually starts on nov 1st nowadays and if you wait until actual black friday all the good deals will be gone. Is that true?

>>105864395
take out ram load 1 stick and boot

my asus b850 mobo won't give any power or detect my gpu. tried multiple gpus, swapped power cables, nothing. any ideas? everything else is running fine

>>105864417
They all follow Amazon. When Amazon announces black friday week is when the proper deals start.

My 3070 started clicking and has had an annoying coil whine for a bit now. Is sidegrading to a 5060ti($600) or 9060xt($500) worth or am I being jewed?
Looking for 2 slot 2 fan card with a flow through. I can afford a 5070 but I don't want to cram my case with a shitty adapter and don't feel like spending another 300 for a new psu

>>105863452
Radeon fans believe that RT is and remains irrelevant. This is a religious issue. You either believe it or you don't.

>>105864449
Raytracing isn't real it's literally the same pixels lighting up on your monitor. Don't fall for the snake oil scam.

Are these GPU stands a real thing or are they the hottest heist going around. I get gpus are huge but is there metric to determine if you card needs a walking cane

>>105863987
> with no top dust filter
During use the fans blow air through the top and prevent any dust from entering the case. When not using the PC just put some cardboard/cover on top of it.

>>105863428
It's more fun for me to build them and then keep modifying them constantly like a ship of theseus

>>105863715
Just buy the microcenter replacement guarantee and break your card and use the store credit toward the newer card. This keeps scum from buying used and it gets you all your money back instead of just partial.

>>105864442
Get a deshroud mod or make one yourself (search for 3070 deshroud on Etsy).
>Is sidegrading to a 5060ti($600) or 9060xt($500) worth or am I being jewed?
This is so not worth it.

>>105864464
You'll know it's real when the weight of the cooler cracks the PCB.

>>105863987
Bro your top fans blow out not in

>>105864449
My 9070xt raytraces just fine

>>105864442
>5070
>I don't want to cram my case with a shitty adapter
Wat? It uses normal pcie 16 pins. I literally pulled my 3060 out and put in a 5070ti 2 days ago. All I had to do was take off my ziptie for the second 8 pin plug.

>>105864567
It's already deshrouded running with 2 A12x15 to fit inside a Ghost S1

>>105864571
I know, I don't currently have any top fans but I guess I should add one.

>>105864600
Which one is that? All the ones I'm seeing have the 16pin socket

>>105864652
I was lying

>>105864585
FSR 3 vs DLSS Transformer btw, You would shave off even more for FSR4

>>105864601
OC + Undervolt might reduce the coilwhine, gl.

>>105864692
>MUH FIFTY FIVE FPS WITH shaRTX!

Just got a 12500t for free, anyone got any leaks about the new lga 1700 intel are supposedly making? I don't see the point of switching to 12700/900 and I don't want any melty overvolting 13/14th gen chips

t.used a 4770k since 2013

>>105864464
i bought a used 4070 ti super, and the pcie conector was bent in the direction of the gpu's length. make of that what you will

>>105864716
nova lake sounds promising it's honestly why I'm waiting to build
may be stupid
is definitely stupid
But 16 p-cores is making me hodl

>>105864783
That's a different socket isn't it?

I heard there is a 12P core coming I could switch to. Hopefully it doesn't suck ass.

>>105864783
it will have like 2 ccx's which sounds meh

>>105864716
The original leak for bartlett lake 12P is that its coming 2025 Q3. Not much other details other than linux commits confirming its existence.

>>105864883
I saw some specs but I don't see how this can be a significant gaming chip without some adjustment to how their cache is set up. You can already disable E cores on the older chips and the performance gain you get is negligible so how are they going to "get the gamers back" which effectively means competing with x3d chips with just small clock boosts on old alder lake tech?!

>>105864928
It's not a gaming chip. It was made for their edge computing customers and may never make it to retail.

>>105864976
There's a leak for an i5 of that architecture

https://media.overclock3d.net/2025/06/Intel-Core-5-120F.jpg

Heavy on the gamer advertising but to be honest that could just be advertising bullshit and not really alluding to the entire series.

What happened to PC cases? I have an Antec 300 and I used to low key think the HAF 932 was a cool full tower. I'm doing a new build and thought maybe it was time to treat myself to a more expensive (and wanky) case to show off a bit and MY GOD they're all fucking hideous fucking glass light shit and WOODEN VENEER? FUCKING WOODEN VENEER? WHAT THE FUCK

>>105859530
>avoid Seagate drives.
what, like completely?
i was going to buy a drive from a rated seller on ebay that was Seagate
Is there at least any way to test it once I get it to know if I've been fruaded?

>>105865047
Avoid their IronWolf & EXOS HDDs.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/seagates-fraudulent-hdd-scandal-expands-ironwolf-pro-hard-drives-also-affected

Anyone using the Montech AIR 903 MAX with the fans than came with the case? How did you set the chassis fan curve?
I build my PC yesterday, the idle CPU temp is around 46C but little CPU spikes jump the temp up to 66C before the air cooler ramps up to steady the temp.
My problem is that the chassis fans ramp up as well and they're pretty loud for like 2 seconds before slowing down again. I'm a bit worried if I'd steady the fan curve they won't push enough air into the case when it's under load.

>>105862123
>>105862159
Thank you very much for the help. Tbh the Asus is really the max of my budget. The mini Led one is even more expensive but I feel like I'm entering a never ending cycle where I'm always looking at the next model up
I started out wanting a cheapo 1080p 24inch monoitor and now I'm at 27", 2K, HDR and whatever else.
I think I've been convinced to get the Asus, despite beign previously sold on the AOC.
I wanted Speakers but thinking about it they're likely going to be so shit it'll feel silly using them anyway. I do have some Creative Pebbles speakers I bought off Marketplace but like I said, they'd have to be placed like 2m away from the monitor.

>>105864692
How are they getting such low framerates? I just keep raytracing on high not ultra and I get 77-90fps in 4k

>>105865103
path tracing

>>105865071
>the exact drive I was going to buy

Well... Shit.
If I buy from a local seller that;s got good reviews, will I be OK? I can just test it myself, right?

>>105865116
Damn I would keep that turned off since it wouldn't be playable in 4k

>>105864332
USD? Pulses were popping up for $600 like two weeks ago.

>>105865071
how old is this scandal?
i got 2 x 16 tb exos in my home server from ~2021

>>105865348
9060xd powercolor hellhounds with a good shroud are $660 at walmart right now.

>all G502 disassembly instructions include "don't lose the tiny springs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
>removing them just makes the wheel easier to press and doesn't break anything
epic

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2YdcL9
You guys gave me this build a couple months ago. I bought it and everything was going well but now my PC keeps crashing. It crashes 10+ times a day and especially happens when I'm playing video games. Someone told me it's because of NVIDIA and it's shitty drivers. What do I do to fix this issue? Thank you for the help.

I should mention that I tried doing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPqUeU09cf8&t=15s

And the issue is still present.

>>105865416
My gpx superlight spring flew off into the ether while I was trying to put the wheel back after replacing the pcb. Wheel doesn't feel any different to me either.

>>105865424
did you remove the sticker from the cooler

>>105865424
It's probably the memor speed on that b650. Lower it to 6000 or 5600 and see if that helps

>>105865443
shouldn't bios reset xmp on crashes

>>105865071
> Seagate
Never not even once.

>>105865017
KEK, I was in your situation, had a 5800X3D + 4090. I got me a 5070 Ti for the 5800X3D and made it my secondary gaming rig with a 27" display and for the 4090 + 4k display I got me picrel. Now I'm waiting for Zen 6 and the PTX 6090, can't wait to get rid of even more money.

>samsung SSDs still not in the op
...

>>105864585
Good for you if you are satisfied, I was disappoint. Mostly by the absurd price of the card here despite being 21% behind in RT on average. Drivers and price change may have improved this but come too late for me. I had to buy in March and picrel was the situation. I paid less for a 5070 Ti than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRfbQJ6FdF0

>his videos are in HDR now
awesome

im starting to think 9800x3d + 9070xt is a meme

>>105865635
it is

https://youtube.com/shorts/7m4LoFxU6Pk
NVIDIA IS FINISHED CONFIRMED BY THE EXPERTS

>>105865017
9800x3d is completely worth the cost for how much faster it is

>>105865424
>DDR5-6400
On AMD? lol lmao even

>>105865017
bro is still on AM4? With a 4090?
you're hustling backwards

>>105865511
How come?
>Have a seagate I use for storing my torrents

>>105865607
OP recommends the 990 Pro in the high-end section.
Their Gen 5 drives aren't as good as the WD and there's no point paying a Samsung premium for entry level drives.

>>105865424
Go to the BIOS and change the memory speed to 6000 and make sure MEMCLK: UCLK is at 1:1 mode.
Try completely disabling EXPO if you want to isolate the issue.

>>105865554
>2nd gaming rig
>monitor
The fuck? Put it in the living room connected to the TV and use it for controller games

>>105865615
Mine was just over $600 and the 4070ti was $850

>>105865017
I would just wait for am6

Recommendations for a monitor? Mine has a dead pixel in the center of the screen and they apparently don't make it anymore (Dell D3218HN) so I'm looking for a new one in the same 32 inch size range. Not curved preferably, I'm not too big on those ones

>>105865952
Get a 42" OLED LG 4k tv 120hz. Should be like $800-900

Asked about the rtx 5080 and a psu last thread and bought them today. Both installed and working perfectly.

>>105865983
>pny
oh no no no no no

>>105865998
assembled in USA has some value

>>105865983
Weird move after they leaked that the 5080 and 5070ti will both have 24gb versions with 3gb vram modules by January-March. The current 5070ti and 5080 got cucked by samsung not being able to produce the 3gb modules at scale in time.

>>105865901
>>105865443
Thank you guys. No more crashing.

I'm thinking about buying a third M.2 SSD, and my motherboard (ASSrock B650E Taichi) has another slot for one, but I think it's one of those situations where if you fill up all the M.2 slots, the PCIe 5.0 x16 gets downgraded to x8 or something, but I don't know if my 4090 even needs that much bandwidth in the first place so I'm about to start reading through documentation, but this reminds me of this sperglord sequence from American Psycho lmao

>>105863452
I genuinely don't find the graphics in Cyberpunk 2077 very impressive, and when I posted that on /vg/ they went full schizo claiming I'm bullshitting my hardware specs. It was the last time I posted in that general about the game itself rather than the lore and shit.

>>105866025
>Cyberpunk 2077
It looks okay but it's not some huge massive jump over other games. Like I remember when metro 2033 first came out in 2010 and I was was like holy shit

>>105866025
>I genuinely don't find the graphics in Cyberpunk 2077 very impressive, and when I posted that on /vg/ they went full schizo claiming I'm bullshitting my hardware specs.
Because you're right. All the non-RT visual elements in that game were budgeted to run on a PS4.
The same reason why Diablo 4 isn't very graphically impressive in both gameplay scale and fidelity, it had to run on the PS4.

>>105866025
Get a pcie adapter instead. I have a b450 that does the same thing to my second full size pcie slot if I use my m.2 nvme slot. I doubt it would share lanes with your main pcie slot though, it's probably your second one it disables assuming you got a full size atx or atxe board.

>>105864395
>>105864418
didn't help unfortunately

swapped in my 3060 and it booted fine, installed windows, 5090 is still consistently failing post - I guess my card is just bad. rip

>>105866025
>but I don't know if my 4090 even needs that much bandwidth in the first place
You'll be losing less than 3~4% of performance.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-pci-express-performance-scaling-with-core-i9-13900k/

>>105866069
Hope you are within return window

>>105866069
Better to find out now when you can get a refund on that dud. GJ isolating the issue.

>>105866025
>but I think it's one of those situations where if you fill up all the M.2 slots, the PCIe 5.0 x16 gets downgraded to x8 or something
READ NIGGA READ
your second pcie slot gets disabled. I can't think of a single board supporting 5.0 that disables or lane splits on it, it's always the 4.0 slot

>>105865952
32" gaming IPS monitor prices aren't that good atm, I believe there's going to be a few releasing in July or August that will be priced closer to $500.
There's an MSI 32" QD-OLED monitor priced @ $750, they have the strictest panel protection system btw.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4HkH99/msi-mag-321up-qd-oled-315-3840-x-2160-165-hz-monitor-mag-321up-qd-oled

>>105865983
Epic-X is PNY's better model.
It looks like the 5070 Ti Epic-X inherited the 5080's cooler.

Did Nvidia somehow change something with overclocking just with driver updates? I used to be able to get +400 stable but now +150 will bluescreen and +100 makes games crash.
Why happen?

Updated Zen 6 rumors,
>More Cores & Threads (Possibly Up To 24/48)
>Higher Clock Speeds on an Improved Process Node
>Higher Cache (Possibly Up To 48 MB Per CCD)
>Up To 2x CCDs & 1x IOD
>Higher DDR5 Memory Speed Support
>Dual IMC Design (But Retains Dual-Channel Config)
>Similar TDPs
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-zen-6-cpu-samples-distributed-architecture-evolution-more-cores-per-ccd-new-dual-imc-design/

>>105866067
>it's probably your second one it disables
You are correct
>pcie adapter
I guess I don't need one, but I'll look these up out of curiosity because I don't know what it is.

>>105866078
ty

>>105866112
YES I SEE, THANK YOU

>>105866379
Careful of the difference between m.2 nvme and m.2 sata ssd if you choose to get one. It will allow you to have further m.2 expansion at the expense of some of the speed. Worth it depending on pricing because you can stick up to four 512mbs or four 1gbs and run them in raid.

Is 64GB RAM overkill for a laptop?

RTX 3070, probably use it for 3-5 more years, I do always seem to max out the 16GB because muh google Chrome. Sometimes edit video in Premiere Pro, might try and learn Blender at some point

https://us.ktcplay.com/products/27-inch-4k-hdr1400-miniled-gaming-monitor?srsltid=AfmBOorfgZkElZHe7FkfNYlJwtP5Yq7Q6gCVNYWJ5Y48QvrdYFY54_ls

399 for the latest 4k160/2k360 1152 zone mini led monitor. I had to consoom. I will let you guys know if it sucks.

>>105866267
>Dual IMC
Will this finally uncuck AMD's historically lower memory speed limits?

>>105866569
Absolute insanity

>>105866576
>>105866569
Btw, this is using the same AUO panel in the msi monitor that coats 500 bucks.

I'm installing a 4080 super, on a Corsair x3500 and the screws for it won't go in properly, for the pcie slot.
Does anyone know how to fit the the screws in?

Anon who was looking at monitors here
Was deciding between the AOC and ASUS.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AOC-Gaming-Q27G4XD-FreeSync-DisplyPort/dp/B0CZ78S8GJ
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B086ZSLPN1?th=1

Was set to go for the Asus, just got 2 new final challengers at the opposite ends of the spectrum.
This one which seems much cheaper but has a lot of the same specs
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/297390261494
And this one which is mini-LED for £20 more
https://www.amazon.co.uk/KOORUI-Vertical-mini-LED-Adaptive-DisplayPort/dp/B0CFQRFX88

Any advice? I swear this is my last time asking and it's decision time now. I just found these in tabs I left open

>>105866685
Usage is PC, PS5, and Switch 2
Former not always for games.

I don't know if the jump to miniLED is worth it over iPS or what I'll lose. Thank you.

bros, does anyone have an official source about how much DRAM the SN850X 8TB SSD has? I've seen 2GB stated enough that I believe that, but I can't find any documents from WD/(Sandisk?) that confirms it.
Also thoughts on this SSD in general?

>>105866500
for a laptop? probably, but i enjoy the shit out of 64gigs on my new PC.

>>105866569
>27inch 4k monitor
what a retard. Consult the chart faggot.

>>105866628
grab some washers or something i dunno. One of the big flaws of almost all cases is that the rear-panel metal itself, and the screws you use to lock everything in, are too flimsy for the weight and forces required to hold up gpus.

>>105866857
WD blacks are generally great, whether physical or SSD/m.2. I wouldnt worry myself, although i am too paranoid these days about drive-failure to buy anything but high-end samsung stuff. But i do respect WD's Black range.

>>105866857
I bought one of those late last year
Performs like a fast gen4 drive despite its capacity so it's great

>>105866857
Likely varies with the capacity. 1GB/TB is a standard amount so 2GB would be reasonable. Understand that the DRAM on SSDs isn't there for data caching like your system RAM. It stores the flash translation layer, a map of "location on filesystem" to "location on disk", so you don't get more performance from having an excess.

>7800X3D only gets to 81c max with cinebench all cores
>play darktide
>time to quit
>alt f4
>cpu spikes to 85-86 degrees immediately while it dumps memory or some shit
nice fucking game
nice fucking cpu

im gonna have to fucking go into bios and cap this piece of shit to 80 arent i

makes no sense that cinebench would only go that high but darktide quitting sends it to fucking 86

>>105867019
Why? Those temps are all well within spec.

>>105867024
yes im sure continuous rapid heat expansion and contraction won't cause any problems down the line

How much multitasking and productivity benefits do you actually get from buying a better CPU?

Like, for the 7600x3d vs the 7800x3d vs the 7900x3d or 950, or a Zen 5 CPU, or something like a 14900 or better, is going for the 900/950, the 14900k/x etc really gonna make it so I could have both an internet browser with hundreds of tabs open, an image editor with many multilayer large images open, AND run a game, or is that going to be a struggle no matter what CPU I throw at it?

I'm actually wondering this even moreso for laptop CPUs, say the 8845HS vs a 8945HS, or a hx processor, again a 13900 or 14900 mobile one, etc

>>105867033
This is how CPUs have boosted since 2019 and they're not dying from it. Hell, GPUs have been doing it for over a decade. Plus, capping it at 80 won't appreciably moderate the cycling. You'd want to add hysteresis to your fan curves and maybe limit the EDC (though the PB parameters on your CPU are already conservative).

Which one?
Msi B850 Tomahawk $219
Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite $219

>>105867071
If you're not actively using the other programs while you game, eg. running a transform script on your image editor, they'll just get shunted to the background and consume minimal resources. Might make a dual core choke but you'd see little difference between 6 and 16. You'll definitely want more RAM though.

>70 series cards went from being $300 to $600 in the course of 3 generations.
The whole crypto shit proved people would pay retarded prices, and now those prices ain't never coming down again.

>>105867162
Nevermind. I just realized the price I was seeing wasn't real. They're now $900. $300 to $900 in 3 generations. For a graphics card. What the fuck?

Racking my brain trying to figure out how Asus does daisy-chaining monitors. They don’t appear to have a Displayport Out port. There is a Displayport port but it doesn’t say whether it’s in or out.

If I got two of these, i’d do a USB-C to Displayport from computer to Monitor 1, then a USB-C to USB-C from Monitor 1 to 2 right?

Yes I know they’re expensive

are western digital ssds good?

>>105867227
Never had an issue other that cheapo build quality. Buy a Sandisk extreme for your important life’s work

>>105867227
>>105867250
Funny, Western digital ssds are just sandisk ssds. But now that's being undone.

>>105866858
>, but i enjoy the shit out of 64gigs on my new PC.
unironially what do you mean by this?

like do you just run shit for the sake of it? what are you doing that breaches 32gb? vm's?

>>105867103
I'd pick tomahawk since it support four m2 and I like their bios more

>>105866685
plz bros


>>105866857
i have a 1tb installed in my laptop, any way I can find out for you?

>>105867434
Solidigm drives are also SK Hynix drives but more expensive.

>>105867019
>>105867033
Those are normal temps and everything rapid heats and rapid cools regardless unless you have bad mounting.

>>105867019
7800X3D runs hotter than 9800X3D because the cache sits on top of the cores rather than the bottom.

>>105866984
I did not know that. Neat.
>mfw

>>105867719
>any way I can find out for you?
I don't think so. I also have one but I can't find the size in HWiNFO or anything. Much appreciated though.
As for those monitors, I don't know. I'd probably go with the Mini-LED one just because I see Micro-LED get shilled here all the time.

>>105867019
Cinebench gets your CPU hot because it makes it draw its full power limit (unless it hits the thermal limit first).
Games get your CPU hot/spike because they're doing something heavy on a single thread. This is just a hotspot scenario.

>>105867716
Thats what I thought. Ive always liked MSI more then Gigabyte. Thanks! I Pulled the trigger on it.

>WD being shilled
>samsung sweeped under the rug because "uh, its better ok?"
why does nobody question this

>>105866183
> 31.5"
What is so difficult with making it 32"?

>>105866078
> 3~4% of performance
Considerable! People go out of their way for much smaller improvements by optimizing RAM timings.

>>105866025
> I genuinely don't find the graphics in Cyberpunk 2077 very impressive,
You will find 20+ GB of high-res texture and Reshade mods on NexusMods. Vanilla admittedly has a rudimentary plastic look.

>>105868557
samsung is overpriced desu

>4k monitors
Disregarding GPU computing power, is there any reason to go from 1440 to 4k:
- gamingwise
- workwise (internet browser, IDE, terminals)
- movies
My take is that the monitor size (32") is to small too justify 4K, at least TV size such as 55" has more sense.

>>105868788
By 1440 and 4k I mean native resolution size of monitor.

>>105866020
For 1440p the current 16GB cards are good enough. If you don't into AI you don't need more. The 24GB versions will be considerably more expensive. You won't get the VRAM upgrade gratis.

>>105865926
I needed a second gaming rig for my vacation home. A truly First World problem.

>>105868783
kys shill

>>105868654
Fill your 5.25 bays

>>105868798
Dunno honestly, for me 1440p on a 27" display is crystal clear, but I'm saying this as I'm coming from a 34" ultrawide 1080p monitor. Going back to that is a disaster and I can't believe I used that for years. 4k is nice (my 48" TV is 4k), but everything becomes so small you have to use min. 175% upscaling anyway. I don't think in games you'll see too much difference, as 1440p is already sharp and no need for a top-tier GPU to produce playable framerates.

>>105868848
My North doesn't have 5.25 bays.

>>105867071
more cores more better + more ram it makes a noticeable difference

>>105868860
>insufficient case
Found your upgrade

>>105868876
Yeah, I want the North XL, but I have to get rid of my current one first.

for me a case with good storage departments is more important than a case with """"airflow"""

>>105868850
I wouldn't say it is crystal clear
for me you can easily see the softness of the image and lack of detail inside of game assets and far off details
I would rather have 4k at 27inch and enable dlss if I have to in modern AAA games that are hard to run

>>105868903
having rattling hdds in your pc is cringe
just get a separate nas or home server

>>105868788
>>- gamingwise
yes so long as you have the gpu to run it, even with upscaling
>- workwise (internet browser, IDE, terminals)
1000x better
>- movies
yes but a TV is gonna be better. 32" is minimum and there's a world of difference between 32" 4K and 27" 1440p.

>>105868903
just build a home server is storage is that important or you have that many terabytes

>>105867019
just sell it and get a 9800X3D

>>105868903
>fill shitty airflow case with hardrives
>they over heat and all your data is gone

>>105868986
>duh cringe duh bringe
Most people don't need a fucking nas.

>>105869017
9800x3d runs even hotter
>>105868822
Most sane Samsung SSD buyer

>>105869048
Get a good cooler and complaining about CPU heat .
All CPUs are power hungy AF unless all you need is a 4 core

>>105869048
maybe you should just stop shilling WD only because the (((linux foundation))) somehow can only use WD appropriatly. the same company that sponsors them

>>105869009
>just build a home server
too much bloat

>>105868998
>there's a world of difference between 32" 4K and 27" 1440p.
5" inches of diagonal size makes that a difference?

But what about upscaling as mentioned by >>105868850 ?
Does it defeat the purpose of 4K for work related aspects or do I still squeeze more space as if I would with native 1440?

>>105866685
Get the AOC if you want to stay within budget.
The one on eBay isn't worth gambling.
Koorui G10 miniLED isn't that great; they don't even disclose the local dimming zone count.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/1dv3ils/comment/lchdcqm/

are ultrawide monitors worth the inconvenience that come along with them?

>>105869141
no

>>105869141
yes

>>105868557
>samsung sweeped under the rug
The 990 Pro is recommended in the high-end section, you insecure retard.
TechPowerUp hasn't reviewed the SN8100 yet.

>>105868654
Buy Noctua G2 case fans, 140mm preferably.

>>105869141
Visit a display showroom or buy one from a store with a good return policy to test it.

>>105869223
>Buy Noctua G2 case fans, 140mm preferably.
I have like 7 140mm be quiet Silent Wings 4 + 120mm rear

>>105869194
>he trusts jewpowerup
why are wd shills like this??

I've been thinking about getting a second SSD but the positioning of the second slot got me thinking if it could mess with the air flow towards the GPU, or even mess with the temperature of the SSD itself.

>>105869347
depends on the gpu

>>105869438
RTX4060, nothing too grand

>>105869468
literal doesnt matter then

>>105869347
It's not going to be that detrimental, buy a decent Gen 4 drive with a cheap heatsink.
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-TR-M-2-2280-Conductivity-Performance/dp/B0C4FJFFPH

>>105869468
4060 won't make a difference unless you put some gen5 hotbox that wants a 6 inch heatsink just to turn on in there

Has anyone actually bought the KTC M27T6? How is it if so?

9070 GRE benchmark is out (left is 1440p raster, right is 1440p RT).
This thing is DOA if it's priced higher than $450.
$400 would be decent, but it would disrupt the 9060XT 16GB.

>>105869101
>Get the AOC if you want to stay within budget.
Thank you. I'd been convinced to go for the Asus, for the speakers and VRR. It's a bump but I told myself that hopefully the monitor will come in handy for some years and even after my current setup is defunct, which could be soon, then I can at least still use it for something else

For the G10 miniled, how would the screen compare with it being a miniled panel vs THE Asus IPS? I keep reading the contrast will be better but I don't know what that means in real terms

>>105869703
That Koorui G10 monitor has hardware issues.
It claims to be a 240Hz monitor, but the monitor can't handle refresh rates above 165Hz with HDR on or 120Hz with adaptive sync (VRR) enabled.

>I keep reading the contrast will be better but I don't know what that means in real terms
You get deeper blacks with a VA panel.
VA panels have gotten better wrt smearing since this video was uploaded 3 yrs ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfd1eCUUD_0

anyone own a superlight or similar? just got this today and wtf it feels like im moving a sheet of paper around.

rtx 3060 12gb
rtx 3060ti 8 gb
or rtx 3080 10 gb BUT with 650 watt mercury (low grade) psu?
I would choose 3080 only if I had proper psu, but i am scared a little. which one should I go for?

>>105869944
3080 undervolted to 0.831v, power limited to 260W

>>105869936
i had one and it was good until the mouse wheel started going all wonky for example sometimes one mouse scroll would register as two and not only that it also started doing the infamous double click issue

>>105869767
To be honest I'm not massively fussed about 240hz. The Asus is only 180hz or so anyway, and I don't see myself pushing 120hz much because I'm not an esports gamer
If you discount that then is it worth it? I've just been doing a lot of searching and there's all the talk about how amazing minileds look, but I genuinely have not seen them in person and Prime offers expire soon.

Which will offer a great picture to where a brainlet like me doesn't have to tinker and can just say "wow so impressive"?

>>105869347
airflow towards the gpu? A modern gpu's intake is below that point. Then you have the pci slot, cmos pattery, extension slots, and southbridge that are all the same height ready to block any flow even if you left that empty. Do you mean side exhaust from the gpu? Well one side blows into the motherboard and it is what it is.

>>105870306
The problem with miniLED monitors is most content, including Windows and web content, is mastered in SDR.
You will get backlight blooming when you leave it on for SDR content.

Good miniLED monitors aren’t easy to find, especially at your price point.
You keep changing the parameters of your desired monitor so I am not wasting my time anymore.

>>105867033
wait until you find out cpus heat unevenly causing nano stress fractures

its fine. suspecting something doesn't make it real

>>105869944
3080
a dead psu to replace is better than a shitty gpu you have forever

>>105870437
>Good miniLED monitors aren’t easy to find
because they don't exist

>>105870503
is there any change my psu would fry my other components?

>>105870597
yeah but it's rare these days components are much more resilient than before
if you are worried undervolt it itll be miles better than a 3060

>>105863395 (OP)
should i get a Frame 4000D for the 200 mm fans, or a Lian Li A3 with only 120 mm fans?

mATX cases are way cleaner imo, but at the same time, i like quiet fans, and idk _how_ noisy 120 mm fans tend to be compared to 200 mm ones

>>105870908
Frame 4000D doesn't support 200mm fans, 140mm max.

>>105870941
where's intel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlAXGl7iQFI

>>105870940
it does as far as i can tell

>Front: 3x 120mm, 2x 140mm, 2x 200mm
>Rear 1x 120mm, 1x 140mm
>https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/cases/frame-4000d-series-vs-4000d-series-whats-the-difference/

that's only in the front though, yeah

>>105870978
May end up buying an Intel card if they ever stay in stock long enough.

Is it really that bad to get 4 sticks of RAM for AMD? If I already have 2x16 and I need more RAM can't I just get another 2x16? I

>>105870437
>>105870512
Fair enough. thanks for the help
I might just order both and then pick
Will update how it goes.

>>105871076
You might be able to get 6000MT/s after some manual tuning.

>>105871076
>AM4
Fine for recent boards/CPUs at standard clocks (≤3600).

>AM5
Good chance it doesn't hit 6000 with basic EXPO. Would need manual tuning like the other anon said. Probably better to buy 2*32 and sell the old kit since RAM holds value decently.

can get this board for $220 usd.
thoughts?

It's new so no reviews.
it has USB 40g, WiFi 7

9070 XT at $720 or 5070 Ti at $790 if I plan on undervolting for power/heat savings?

>>105869936
I have a pulsar x2 crazylight, it's 38grams. Don't think I'll ever be able to go back to heavy mice again, it was a gamechanger.

>>105871495
yea fuck this is amazing

>>105867116
>If you're not actively using the other programs while you game, eg. running a transform script on your image editor, they'll just get shunted to the background and consume minimal resources.

This has not been at all my experience with web browsers, they tend to still hog resources even if I have a different window open

>You'll definitely want more RAM though.

Even with 64gb of RAM, I find that having Vivaldi open with a few hundred to maybe 1500 tabs tends to almost max out my memory. I know that computers often use more RAM then they really need, so maybe it's not *actually* using that much, but I don't have a way to tell if so

>>105871546
>1500 tabs tends to almost max out my memory
mentally ill, get help.

>>105871434
It's a recolored ASUS Prime with 1 fewer CPU power phase (2x7+2+1 vs 2x6+2+1) and fewer M.2 heatsink, not the end of the world.
Using USB4 will disable one M.2 slot.

>>105871468
Depends on how much you value the native support for NVIDIA features + CUDA.

Is it bad to put gpu in second slot instead of first?

>>105871546
I have like 4000 tabs in my Firefox session and it's only using 4.6GB or so. Does Vivaldi not unload inactive tabs?

>>105871546
It depends for how long you keep your browser open too, memory leaks are also a thing. On Firefox I noticed that jewtube tab or jewtube embed can eat few GBs of RAM, sometimes extensions (I have ublock and noscript) get broken and instead of using about 300 MBs they use 2 GB or more, also there is Firefox GPU subprocess which also can use a lot of RAM and constantly use CPU even though nothing is being played anymore. Restarting processes/extensions or closing/refreshing tabs helps,

>>105871674
It depends on your board's PCIe configuration; sometimes it can be very bad.
You want to install the video card in the first x16 PCIe slot because it directly communicates with the CPU.
The lower slot usually passes through the chipset, and these might not even support Gen 4 x16 bandwidth.

i tried to stress test my computer by opening mutiple copies of desth strandong and one of them crashed so i ram memtest and it shows 2 errors

my ram is corsair 64gb in 2 sticks 6000mhz XMP but i have an amd cpu and im running them with corsair's overclock setting

>>105871786
Run it with JEDEC timings/speed. If memtest shows the same addresses every time, the memory is definitrly faulty.

>>105871927
welcome to capitalism without competition, also called a monopoly

>>105871860
It says the second slot supports PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16, so it's not bad.
I've seen some Z690 boards restricting the 2nd x16 slot to Gen 3x 4.

>>105871927
An inherent problem of capitalism (I'm not saying communism is better we just haven't found a better system yet) is that line must always go up. If a company makes a perfect product once they have sold one to every person on earth what do they do after that? They would cease to exist because there is no reason to exist anymore. Companies have an incentive to make products good but never great otherwise you won't need them anymore.

>>105871668
Can I run local models on rocm well enough?

>>105871947
So should I bother changing to first slot?

>>105871961
I've read it's getting better, you should DYOR.

>>105871832
i cant even reboot my computer and get back into the bios

amd sucks, it either turns off my keyboard at the same time the bios screen flashes where it wants you to hit F2, or it stalls on a black screen for 5-15 minutes trying to optimize the memory

i have restarted and flicked the power switch like 20 times now

i never had this trouble with my 10600k

>>105871993
The first slot is technically better if there's no physical limitation.
Performance gain might be imperceptible, though.

>>105871674
most likely
usually only the first pcie slot goes directly to the cpu while other goes through the chipset

>>105871947
doesn't the table at the bottom mean that if you use the second slot it will be only x8

>>105869944
The 3000 series vram lineup was fucking weird

>>105872006
asking here is part of that research

>>105872017
ok thanks ill try it

>>105871961
https://www.phoronix.com/news/ZLUDA-5-preview.43
nvidia fears the zluda farmer

ok bros, its over after 7-12 business days

>>105872151
nice

>>105864395
>>105866069

posting AGAIN wanted to make absolutely sure my 5090 was the problem.. and now I'm unsure

> not able to POST while 5090 connected regardless of other components (1-2 ram sticks, etc.)
> randomly messing with connections, double checking bios while displayport is connected to the motherboard
> reseat the 5090 for one last check before I box it up to return
> boots no issue
> realize the displayport is still on mobo, switch it to GPU, display is working fine
> system sees the 5090, able to update driver, monitor temps, etc.
> if I reboot WITH displayport connected to the 5090 it will not POST
> if I reboot with displayport connected to mobo, and then connect it to the 5090 after it boots everything seems to work fine
> super consistent, rebooted half a dozen times each with display connected to mobo vs gpu. it always boots if the displayport is connected to the mobo, and seems to work fine after switching back to the 5090. it always fails POST if displayport is connected to the 5090 or disconnected entirely

anyone have any idea what the fuck is happening here? is it skipping the check against the gpu if the displayport is directly connected to the mobo? could this be an issue with the mobo itself? or is my displayport cable so fucked that its somehow causing the 5090 to fail POST? I really don't want to have to return this and wait for a new one if I don't have to

>>105872151
Didn't you watch the battle? She was no match for the power of the Hellstone...

>>105872184
NTA but ye the hellstone is OP

>>105871832
on later passes the error wasnt found and i reset it to default speed and it found no errors then i loaded the standard oc profile and it found no errors

what do you think it meabs?

it said both errors wre on stick b2

>>105872180
Could be issue with Displayport 2.1. Maybe try setting the monitor to DP 1.4 if you can, or maybe your cable is not the 2.1 one and that somehow causes issues. You could also try different drivers as there were plenty of issues with DP 2.1 early on

>>105870908
your case fans shouldn't go much above idle speeds, where (good) 120mm are plenty silent
and that's the benefit of bigger cases, you can just have more and bigger fans which obviously means more air moving through it
the loudest fans in your system is usually from the gpu, then the cpu/aio, then case fans

most matx cases are perfectly fine for airflow, you just have to stick fans in all the fan spots

>>105863464
In other news. Customs decided to randomly inspect the pc case that should’ve arrived today. So this beast won’t be able to stretch its legs until Monday

Whats a good cpu to pair with a 3050? Did i mess up getting a am5 board? Going for fanless build
>ASRock B650 PG LIGHTNING
>Noctua NH-P1
>Palit KalmX GeForce RTX 3050 6GB
>SeaSonic PRIME Fanless 700 W

>>105872028
>doesn't the table at the bottom mean that if you use the second slot it will be only x8
The table says the 2nd slot is "N/A" in single VGA card config.

>>105872180
Try different DP ports in the video card, use a different display cable (ex. HDMI).
Check if there are any firmware updates for that 5090 in the manufacturer's product support page..

>>105872361
It means the Corsair OC profile you used was unstable for your CPU & board.
If you got a different 6000MT/s CL30 setting working stably, it's all good.

I would consider updating the board BIOS to the latest stable version if you haven't done it already.
I'd revert BIOS to stock settings before updating BIOS just to be extra safe.
Some boards automatically revert the BIOS settings to default when you choose to update it.

>>105872184
i bought it for the meme factor

>>105872407
I think you messed up getting the 3050.
7500F or 7600/X is overkill for that system.
Set a stricter power limit if you get the 7600X.

>>105865424
Did you try turning it off and on again?

>>105872407
well you only like two options? 9600x or 9700x, both being 65w zen5

>>105872498
7600x is 105w and more expensive than 9600x

>>105872507
It's not that hard to set a power limit on the -X CPUs if they're cheaper than the non-X.

how big of a jump is going from 3900x to 9950x3d?
i feel like i was getting cpu bottlenecked in some games with my 3080ti

>>105872432
yeah maybe it doesn't work like this
still, that anon should check gpu-z, it will show him if the gpu uses only x8

>>105872594
Not a crazy difference @ 4K, it can be a big difference at 1440p and lower. But your 3080Ti will be the main bottleneck @ 1440p & 4K.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/
TechPowerUp changed their CPU testing after the 9800X3D review; there's no direct comparison available for the 3900X vs 9950X3D.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d/

>PC monitor has USB ports
Anyone ever used that? How purely optional are those one? I only can count following use case:
- usb hub for mouse, keyboard, webcam
- usb charger for phone or external speakers (that if PC monitor can direct some voltage, while not being connected to PC)

Also, while I understand that USB type B often acts like input/upstream port, I am confused about USB-C in general.
Because USB-C can act upstream port AND / OR handle video signal? I am confused about this. Can it do both or are they have to be split / dedicated for each role?

Besides, I never saw GPU with USB-C. I understand that 1x HDMI + 3x DP is most popular config as far I saw. Is this still novelty or USB-C is behind capabilities of HDMI and DP?

>>105872826
i use ports on monitor for charging mkb and bt speaker

>>105872826
I used to connect my controller via my monitors USB slots but my new PC has native bluetooth so I dont need it anymore. I remember that the USB ports would disconnect if I switched from DP to HDMI so I couldn't use them for microphone or other things when I wanted to play on console with the PC being active for VoIP or other things.
>I never saw GPU with USB-C.
I think it's more a notebook thing.

>>105871557
thanks, I saw press releases stating that it was above prime lol but yes I just noticed the phases.

>>105865046
>ECO FRIENDLY WOOD VENEER
>GALVANIZED STEEL FRAME
>AUNTY SCREWS
gaming time

>50-series is a disaster in almost every way imaginable
>the only other options are used 30-series cards or Inhell's B580
How did it get this bad?

>>105871553
I'm aware

>>105871692
>Does Vivaldi not unload inactive tabs?

It didn't used to, and even now it only does if the memory maxes out unless you turn a specific extra memory saver feature on. Which i'd use, but there's no apparent way to whitelist certain websites from not being hibernated

>>105871702
In my expierence Vivaldi is the least bad with this vs firefox or other chromium browsers, but it may still be a factor

>>105863452
Yeah but how is it on games that are actually good?

Today is 7-11 btw, go get your free Slurpee (buy something if you're an adult).

>>105873131
Sorry I'm a QuikTrip chad we don't have 7-11 around here.

>>105873131
you can make your own slurpees at home with a blender.

>>105873131
sorry, 7-11 is in 4 months for me

>>105873028
>>the only other options
Yeah if you are mentally ill.

Reminder to avoid Realtek NIC's

>>105873657
nothing wrong with them as long as you download the driver from last month. mobo websites and windows update drivers are super outdated.

>>105873680
mine shit the bed and I didn't do anything out of the ordinary besides software KVM, RDP and downloading porn

>>105873755
work on my machine

>>105873657
>Realtek
how is that company still real
their website and drivers are a complete mess

>>105863395 (OP)
> holes everywhere
> only one side with dust filter, and it's only for the PSU
shouldn't this collect more dust than a vacuum cleaner?

https://www.amazon.com/INNOCN-Ultrawide-Computer-Delivery-Speakers/dp/B0CDPK3YY2

Do I do it? I would love hdr but I hate spending money and would like to keep 3440x1440.

>>105873875
their website works now. back then it didnt even work. as in straight up 404 or dns error.

fug even input-leap works better on my PCI-e x1 Intel NIC compared to Realtek's. Or maybe mine's just ultra shitty

>>105873875
The website works now? Progress

Anyone here who owns or has tried this monitor: MSI Mag 256F https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZWCG65X

Its surprisingly difficult to pick a 1080p IPS 100+hz monitor because some of the negative reviews always keep me hesitating from buying. I would gladly pay like 50-100 bucks more if there was like a well known premium model with guaranteed high quality and longevity but I havent found one like this so far...

>>105873937
At least it's easy to carry outside when you need to clean the dust out.

>>105873942
>HDR 400
>IPS Panel
Don't do it.

>>105873942
It's a VA panel. Might have some smearing, but it's fine if you know what you're getting into.
I think it's a good deal, Innocn is an OEM. They make Acer monitors.
Not many reviews for that specific model.

>>105873970
There's an ASUS ROG XG259CS, but I don't think this justifies the extra $60 premium.

>>105873983
These monitor's Amazon listing is such a shitshow.
>Product name says model is "34G1R".
>Product Information says it's "34E3R".
>Product description says it's the "34G1R" model.

>>105874082
So what panel is it now? I had once a miniLED VA here for a few days with HDR 1000 I think and it was a bright mess. The HDR 600 IPS Panel I have now is nearly the same.

>>105873937
It doesn't have a dust filter in the front?

>>105874043
The asus monitor looks interesting and its also available on amazon where I live. I have put it on my list for now. I figured even tho prime day ends in like an hour I shouldnt rush and just order something just because its a sale.

>>105874110
If we go by the model in the product name (34G1R), it's a VA panel.
https://innocn.com/products/innocn-27-4k-mini-led-monitor-34g1r

>>105873970
>premium
>1080p
don't think they exist
one of them ips's are like 3 visits to mcdonalds to me, it's not that serious, you should not have fomo over it
just buy the cheapest 180hz ips one and call it a day

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>>105874146
the wood version of the front panel has a filter behind it

>>105874189
While you are correct that they arent that expensive my main issue is I just ideally wanna get one that works well and wont break in a year or so plus I dont wanna deal with endless ordering one, testing it out only to realize it has dead pixels, ghosting or terrible more than average backlight bleeding and then packing it up and send it back again to try another one. I wanna get one that I can count on keeping you know.

>>105874296
>and wont break in a year or so
up to rng hope for the best though on some reliable brand

>testing it out only to realize it has dead pixels
dead pixels are approved in the ISO standard unless you buy professional grade monitors so you are stuck swapping regardless if bad rng

>ghosting
all ips have ghost compared to oled or even tn

>terrible more than average backlight bleeding
standard ips + ips glow, or buy oled

>I wanna get one that I can count on keeping
too big demands for 199$ monitors unless you get a 1440p oled for 400-500 or something

>>105874366
Yeah theres lots of rng involved I guess. Ive been using a very old TN monitor and never had an IPS one before so im a bit concerened about the glow. Ive tried both and I prefer a 24 monitor over larger sizes and 1440p just doesnt make sense even if my GPU could handle it and OLED is just way over the top for my needs. Idk if youre the anon who suggested the asus strix XG259CS but I might actually get that one.

>>105874423
>Ive tried both and I prefer a 24 monitor over larger sizes
a 27" monitor place 3" further back is the same percieved size
so you will never have a good monitor from now on then? they are refusing to make decent 24" ones
>and 1440p just doesnt make sense even if my GPU could handle it
you just get better panels even going to a budget 1440p from a budget 1080p
>TN monitor and never had an IPS one before so im a bit concerened about the glow
some hate glow and even prefer tn
but there is a difference between glow and blb
idk how bad it is on ips monitors these days and i dont wanna find out

How do i get enough money to buy computer parts PCBG?

>>105874709
Get a job. Flip some burgers.

>>105874709
If you bought xrp at 50 cents a few months ago you will have a lot of money today.

>>105873937
Add more fans blowing out