Thread 105863617

I think it's time to make the switch. Any tips on switching to Windows as a Linux user? What should I expect?

shit to just werk

>>105863617 (OP)
Start with Mint, expect an infuriating experience when people tell you you don’t need the command line, you try and use the gui, it doesn’t work, then when you ask for help people say “You should just be using the command line”

You will spend days tinkertrooning around just to, at best, get equivalent functionality for an overall worse user experience.

Just download IoT LTSC and run a debloat script like Titus Util

>>105863651
gms you can't read

>>105863651
HAHAHAHAHA YOU MISREAD THE POST
RETARD ALERT

Use Windows 10 ltsc if it's supported on your hardware. It's solid and just works.
As for Windows 11, ltsc is the only way but windows 11 is absolute garbage. You are already very much used to jank so just keep your current mindset and you'll be able to survive.

>>105863617 (OP)
Extremely slow, poopy pants jeet OS. But things actually work first try.

>>105863749
define slow

>>105863617 (OP)
You will immediately hate it and remember all the reasons you left, but this is part of the experience
>>105863693
I really wonder why everyone suggests mint. Mint is not easier or harder than the other distros in class, it's just the DE people like because muh taskbar and start menu, missing all the flexibility and improvement that makes the switch worthwhile.

>>105863786
Ubuntu used to be the default suggestion, then it migrated to Mint, which is based on Ubuntu. I've never tried Mint but I will gladly accept anything other than Ubuntu as the default beginner suggestion.

>>105863786
It's the echo chamber suggestion. Mint recommendations are how you know someone parrots everything they read on reddit.

>>105863617 (OP)
Linux is fully independent and not run by big tech. I’m sure the key donors famous for their stellar pro consumer track record and deep commitment to open standards will ensure privacy remains an utmost priority now and in the future.

>>105863753
You hit the windows key and it takes 30 seconds for the start menu to come up. You have a folder with more than 50 files in it and it's unresponsive for a few seconds if you change anything or refresh.

>>105864000
You're retarded, just because tech companies use linux as an NGO tax writeoff while justifying their theft of FOSS doesn't mean it's controlled by it, the only true corporate linux os is Fedora

Win 10 LTSC -> Linux. Win 11 was never an option

>>105863693
OP switching from Linux to Windows, I know who the retard is and forgive that anon for the misunderstanding. who the fuck would switch from Linux to Windoze? Only a retard

It's pretty good.

>>105864189
you are absolutely right and there's definitely no conflict of interest at all. Politicans get bashed to hell and back for the same reasons when receiving dubious campaign funds but when it's Linux, "it is k, lulz".

>>105863617 (OP)
>I think it's time to make the switch.

May I ask why? I'm not judging, just curious. I have switched between Windows and Linux quite a lot of times. I've been daily driving Fedora for the last 6 months, but every once in a while I feel the urge to use an OS that's actually compatible with most software. Unfortunately, I've gotten way too used to the linux workflow

>Any tips on switching to Windows as a Linux user?

If you have gotten used to downloading stuff through the terminal, you should get a windows package manager. Winget is included by default on Windows 11 (not on LTSC tho, and that's like the only edition of Windows 11 that's kinda worth it) but I personally prefer Scoop.

>>105863695
>>105864217
What's wrong with Windows 11 (ltsc) compared to Windows 10? The only issue I had with it back when I was using it was the ugly taskbar, but you can get the Windows 10 taskbar back in less than 10 minutes using something like explorerpatcher.

>>105863617 (OP)
Run your debloat script of choice during/after install. Yes it sucks you have to do this but it works so good after.

>>105864165
Don't use W11 without an nvme ssd and you won't have this issue

>>105863617 (OP)
Once you replace
>LibreOffice Calc -> Excel
>GIMP -> Affinity Photo
you'll never go back. It's amazing to use all 16 cores updating a worksheet or being able to shrink an image and then expand it again without it being a pixelated blob.

>>105864599
>It's amazing being able to shrink an image and then expand it again without it being a pixelated blob
Gimp 3 has non-destructive editing though

>>105863617 (OP)
>What should I expect?

Well, let me tell you:
>MICROSOFT ACCOUNT!
>MICROSOFT ACCOUNT!
>MICROSOFT ACCOUNT!

You'll be hassled about during setup, and even if you don't put it in then Edge, OneDrive, the store, Teams, Copilot, and everything else will hassle you for it every time you look at them. It's yet another example of how Microsoft takes all the wrong lessons from Apple's playbook. If you're switching from Linux, you're probably not retarded, so you might try Windows 8.1 and workarounds/not being a retard with security for the last good Windows experience. Personally I didn't like it as much as 7, and 8.1 does have some Microsoft account integration, but 8.1 had official support for three extra years so you're more likely to find 3rd party support.

>>105864545
I do have an nvme SSD

>>105864636
In current 3.0 GIMP if you shink something then enlarge it again, it'll still look bad. I believe in Photoshop it's called "Smart Objects". On the roadmap for 3.2 but I'm not waiting another 1 year+

>>105864645
I've only had Win 11 bug me once for a Microsoft account. Edge on the other hand, holy shit. There's a new pop-up for something or other literally every day.

>>105864599
>GIMP
This I never understood. Why are there no good alternatives for lightroom, DXO, and those other photo programs? Even davinci I think works on lunis, but GIMP is fucking disgrace, terrible piece of shit garbage. I wouldn't touch GIMP in year of the lord 2000 (if it existed then), so why would I use it today? Why would people defend something so bad that isn't good even if it went back in time to year 2000?

>>105863617 (OP)
Ah github, the never learn software. You can use it 20 times and still not know how it works. But its important so mucrosoft can surveil your builds. Once you do learn it, some indian will change how it works. Then finally when you get something working, your account will be locked out.

>>105865060
So what you're saying is, it's working as intended?

>>105865044
GIMP is fantastic, eat shit

>>105865124
Gimp is shit, the paid software are much, much better. Who wants to use shitty software just because it's free? Sounds like some kind of third worlder problem

>>105865140
I used GIMP for years before I tried photoshop, and found photoshop clunky and nonintuitive, only useful for its AI features
in GIMP I can do anything I want in less than 5 minutes, it just works.

>>105863617 (OP)
Google how to avoid the forced online account creation during installation. Afterwards download OOSU10 first and foremost and disable all the spyware crap.
If that is done, it's smooth sailing. The OS keeps out of your way and shit just works out of the box.

>>105864645
See: >>105865287

>>105864645
not an issue last time i installed ltsc

>>105865044
you know, you ask why there are no alternatives on /g/.
if there are no alternatives its basically a easy project for you that will see use, no?

>>105863786
>it's just the DE people like because muh taskbar and start menu
Which is weird when KDE offers the same thing.

>>105863617 (OP)
>What should I expect?
finally becoming a functional adult

>>105863617 (OP)
What is with LGBT and macOS and Windows. I know Microsoft and Apple has official LGBT support while Linux is first world white hetero Finnish thing but still. Maybe it has something to do third world poor Americans and third world US?

>>105867098
just use your computer

>>105864165
I knew you were a lying Pajeet loonix shill.
kys

>>105864165
>>105864165
>saar i see on reddit when u 100% disk the start menu not be the of work, it must b tru!
rope

>>105863617 (OP)
>Any tips on switching to Windows as a Linux user?
Install cygwin after windows is installed.
Buy ssd or nvme if you had hdd, windows will be too slow with it. Double your ram.
During install make your rootfs 512gb-1tb size. The chances you won't be able to "extend" it later are huge, unlike linux. Also use a huge hard drive just in case, I would recommend 4tb. Moving rootfs to other drive is complicated on windows, if possible at all.
Install it on machine you plan to use, forget about ejecting hard drive and inserting it in other machine. Once you install, hard drive is "glued" to motherboard. I tried it and it didn't let me login because of some TPM shit.
When you create user you have to actually register microsoft email in the internet. Don't create burner account like user test1234, password 1234test. Windows will randomly require you to enter code they sent to email. I did it, forgot the password and had to reinstall.
If you play vr games, keep you Linux as backup, on win11 steamvr didn't work for me.

>>105863617 (OP)
>Any tips on switching to Windows as a Linux user?
You mean to Linux as a Windows user, right?

>>105863617 (OP)
I did it after 5 years, it literally just works.
Use WSL for dev, it can even do GUIs.
For the rest I found the Microsoft store pretty good actually, equivalent of discover/gnome software, I think that apps installed this way also sync with windows so they auto reinstall on new ones.

Powershell is fucking disgusting though, I don't know if I'll ever get used to it, who though objects were a good idea in a shell?

>>105867936
I've never seen so many wrong things in one tweet.
SteamVR on W11 literally shits on ALVR/WiVrn and the only reason I actually caved in to retry windows after all these years and stuck with it.

>>105863617 (OP)
Stick with Windows 10, unless you're really sure that you need Windows 11.
Windows 10 has 3-7 years of updates left, depending on the version.

>>105864645
>Edge, OneDrive, the store, Teams, Copilot, and everything else will hassle you for it every time you look at them.

Just uninstall those apps man, what the fuck are you doing.

>>105867966
Well, didn't work for me, maybe it depends on hardware. Or because I tried win11 quite some time ago and they fixed it. While on Linux I enjoyed native build of hl alyx that worked (almost) well.

>>105863617 (OP)
Nagging to sign up for this and that
Forced reboots to make sure your computer doesn’t get owned

>>105863617 (OP)
Wanted to ask the same question. Is Linux viable for gaming with a modern nVidia GPU?

>>105867994
Yeah sorry for the caustic reply, that triggered me after literally 2 years of tinker trooning VR, which was just plug & play on Windows.
Alyx works flawlessly with my Q3 and Quest Link, 100+Mbps bitrate, 120Hz (or 90 idk), 0 flicker, 0 dark screen, fast loading times (all that wirelessly on a 160Mhz WiFi 6 band)
The only issue I had is that sometimes out of sleep Air Link doesn't detect my PC, which is solved the classic Windows way, a reboot. Probably I could just restart the service or whatever, I didn't bother tinker trooning.

>>105867957
Powershell is fucking based. The syntax maybe is quite weird at first but having all variables strongly typed and actually descriptive commands instead of everything being a string and commands looking like "drhvp" in bash is a godsend if you write scripts longer than 10 lines that you are going to maintain.

>>105868007
You're talking about scripting, which is probably true, at which point I don't know why you wouldn't use Python or whatever.
What about the interactive shell usage?

>>105867966
>ve never seen so many wrong things in one tweet.
Nigger I use both Linux and windows for my jobs for many years and I actually tried win11. Would you be so kind to explain what exactly is wrong? Well the ram part probably, I need 64gb for what I do on Linux and windows doesn't require 128gb, works fine with 64 too. I wrote it just in case.

>>105863617 (OP)
Using the OS at gunpoint:
>make a usb installation stick with rufus to disable online account, bitlocker and tpm requirement (if needed)
>gpe.msc -> disable automatic updates to avoid getting shat on your configuration at random
>fuck around more on gpe and regedit to disable telemetry, ai and ads shit
>install open-shell because the default start menu (and explorer conf) is awfully shit and bogs the cpu launching recall EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU OPEN IT
>configure powershell because even windows now needs a fucking cli to do useful shit done like installing system updates in a per case way, installing useful software to keep centralized updates without the spyware-store, etc...
>setting up restore points at each major operation
>setting up sandboxed environments to minimize the core system exposure and unattended/accidental changes

>>105863617 (OP)
>Advertisements in the login screen.
>Advertisements in the start menu
>Settings app not werking
>Mandatory reboot every 3 days
>Settings not available until that reboot
Some can be remedied.

>>105868007
PowerShell is pretty dope. That's a plus.

>>105868015
Nothing I explained above that I got triggered by the VR part.
I also use both, and used troonix exclusively for years.

There are a lot of insane things on Windows especially atomic updates which I miss way too much.
I think it's wrestling with too much legacy stuff, they should make a "pioneer" version of it or whatever.

The core of Windows expertise is knowing that the OS is your enemy and trying to avoid any suggested defaults.

>>105863617 (OP)
Start cutting your left wrist with a sharp knife every day. Once you get used to it, start also cutting your right wrist too. This should prepare you for the premium Windows™ computing experience
>Microsoft corporation. All rights reserved

>>105868043
owowowo