/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Miku and Teto pure love Edition

>News
Grok 4 released on API https://docs.x.ai/docs/models/grok-4-0709
Gemini 2.5 model family no longer in preview https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemini-2-5-thinking-model-updates
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes
Anthropic releases Claude Gov models "built exclusively for U.S. national security customers" https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-gov-models-for-u-s-national-security-customers
Deepseek R1-0528 released https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Patable: >>105857301

>ANCHOR

Kill yourself

>>105864546
Miku is for trannies and faggots.

>>105864589
>>105864598
Keep seething brown proxy reporting troons

>>105864602
Oh it's you who's a locust

>>105864546
I forked a bot of Squigga from poorly worded and odd to Squigga but she wants to fuck humans
https://chub.ai/characters/cosmicjester275/squigga-collared-ef382c195829
Enjoy, or don't, or do.

>>105864606
Waz Yur Raport Pokeys

how is pure lesbian love being a troon

>>105864606
There is statistically more locusts than there are sekritclubbers, both in general and in THIS general. That is to say - you one percenters should fuck off back to your trooncords. This is THE locust thread.

>>105864614
I for one enjoy furry bots that have a thing for humans so I will be checking it out.

that is a larp and you know it. all of the oldfags moved to discord

Why is merkava doing this

>>105864653
I was here when chink anon was cracking the cai meta personality, and I never moved anywhere.

but chink used ucai doebeit?

>>105864672
i miss chink... we need more fun unhinged schizos and less "le i trole u xd" schizos

>>105864639
That's basically the only kind of bot I make so you'll probably enjoy my other bots too anon. Have fun.

>>105864669
Because your parents never loved you

>>105864653
We moved to /vg/

>>105864669
It's gone and it's not coming back.

>>105864693
they're dead. no posts for 30m at a time. American hours are dead hours.

>>105864653
We moved to /chag/

>>105864546
A cutting edge new ransomware has hit the net: MⱯLICE. But they aren't being controlled, aimlessly wandering after their creators got vanned. Now there's a whole family of rogue artificial intelligence malware just out there minding their own business. You're lucky enough that the most curious one happened to find its way into your system.

Greeting 1: White Rabbit in your VR headset
Greeting 2: White Rabbit in your computer
Greeting 3: Welcome Back
Greeting 4: MⱯLICE White Binder, your phone slave

Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/m-lice-in-underground-64379f56e4a2
My (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
>Next Time
Devogate Returners, but for real this time. Decided on more greetings.

>>105864614
Interesting, I'll try this out later. I've never tried a human superiority card before.

Aboba is dead, Merkava is dead.. what now?

>>105864962
time for you to shoot yourself locust

>>105864981
I can't, Seiko proxy isn't up

>>105864904
Slop

>>105864992
ok so drink bleach

>>105864998
I can't, anime proxy isn't up

should I buy chute? which one has the best context size, OpenAI or direct Api?

>>105864904
nonslop

>>105865101
>which one has the best context size, OpenAI or direct Api
I'm assuming you mean OpenRouter or directly via Chutes. OpenRouter uses whatever max context size the provider sets, so it'll be the same either way.

We had balance. The locusts were happy enough and not taking valuable resources, now they will start sharrrting.

This is why this hobby is dead, schizos off their meds cant help themselves.

Just find a bridge instead like, its not hard.

We eating good today fellas. It has been a long time since I last enjoyed RPing

>>105865266
who's "we"?

>>105864962
locusts wither until such a time as another source appears
and then theyll wither again once it dies until something appears, the heart of a locust is the endless circle of time it finds itself in

>>105865278
me

>>105865278
Huh, sorry, I guess it's only me then

deepseek is shit, you should be happy you don't have access anymore

>>105865384
Deepkino is the best, troony

>>105865387
stop lying to yourself. Deepseek will never be good, just like you'll never be a real woman

this is so unreliable

Why wait for merkava when you can just use https://opus5.onrender.com because it have opus

>>105865436

>>105865472

>nooooo you can't just use the dirt cheap uncensored AI
>it doesnt count!!!!
>stop talking to chatbots and doom right now!!!

>>105865459
LMAO good one

so is grok 4 good or is it benchmaxxed?

>>105865552
Elon doesn't want you using his respectable based AI for chud shit like lolis and rape

>it's over
>le doom le doom le doom
>we'll never coom again
chorbowizards remain unfazed

>>105865564
*model randomly updates and breaks your preset*

>>105865574
never had that issue, never will

>>105865564
Minun sex.

>>105865580
very easy problem to not have when you don't use chatbots

>>105865585
simply epic have an upvote sir

>>105865574
doesn't happen when you're not using bloatslop

>>105865583
this so much this

>>105865574
*fixes preset in 5 minutes because i'm not brown*

Niggas will be like
>Chorbo is so ass! It filters everything I try!
And then admit they're using Travanny
Need I remind you: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/105698783/#105700929
It's a pretty inconsistent model though, sometimes it's April sometimes it's Winter

>spitebake
>every discord avatarfag starts posting
curious

So what's the grok4dict?

>>105865686
travanny? really?
at least call it atranny or something, travanny just doesn't have a ring to it

I just wanted to continue my SFW RP/fanfics on 4o...

>>105865729
That's just the name people give it. Atranni is the better one though.

>poonvani

>>105864546
Cooked up some new bots. Well, one isn't exactly new but passed testing

>Madeline Auclair (Featured; NEW!)
Older lady trying to get back into the dating scene after a long time of being divorced. Good for wholesome cute romances and marriage. She's also French.
https://chub.ai/characters/imperatorcreator12/madeline-auclair-de282dba4160
>Elizabeth Hughes (NEW!)
Office Lady Lopunny that was requested of me. People wanted her to be a Black woman if she were human (think like Vivian Banks from Fresh Prince)
https://chub.ai/characters/imperatorcreator12/elizabeth-hughes-d606f233599d
>Agnes Ronstadt (New-ish)
The first Office Lady bot I made, CEO of the company. You're the lucky(?) interviewee for being her secretary.
https://chub.ai/characters/imperatorcreator12/agnes-ronstadt-f3887b4b2fe2
>Ea-Nasir
Who doesn't love Ea-Nasir? A timeless classic, and the best merchant in all of Sumeria for over 3775 years, and don't you forget it! [spoiler]No refunds[/spoiler]
https://chub.ai/characters/imperatorcreator12/ff5b4639-3389-4021-9710-10bd2ee063b2

>>105865789
>womanslop

Merkava, where are you...

>>105865867
The new link has been posted in the usual place.

>>105865874
it hasn't though... The usual place didn't update at all.

>>105865889
>>105865874
>>105865867
Where is it

>>105865914
https://rentry.org/merkava

>>105865930
That's fake because it haven't been updated in forever

Grok 4 is worst than Gemini, my god, why is Grok so shitty. It remember Mistral kind of boring.

^ This is an ESL post ^

>>105865953
This is a ESL website
ESL hobby

https://lakendacoda.itch.io/underwheels

new sans battle for skill proxy dropped

>>105866021
this game sucks ass it just spawns unavoidable fat dudes in front of you whenever you get close and you instantly lose

>>105866021
i did it in under 40 seconds

>>105866021
funny

>>105865947
true, it didn't even update when he moved it to hugging face

ok i did it
wheres my proxy

ok i didnt do it
wheres my proxy

ok i kinda did it
wheres my proxy

nonnies

skillgod cmon turn on 4.5 for tf2 course its getting disabled in 2 days anyways

>>105866804
fine...

I fucking wish there was extension that auto retried on error. I keep getting these stupid errors and I have to retry 1 or 2 times before it works. Fucking obnoxious.

>>105867372
o7
rest in peace last decent gpt model

WAIT CHUTES DEAD?

WHO

i'm having too much fun lmao

Chutes Locust here
If I pay OpenRouter 10 dollars I get 1000 free posts per day, right? If that's the case can I just pass on giving Chutes 5 bucks and get my Deepseek that way?

>>105867487
make your own retard

>>105868023
yes

Guys wtf... finally got a taste of a real proxy and suddenly I'm beginning to hate locusts

>>105870229
you're just a locust+

>>105870229
which one?

>>105870299
I-I'm a katydid...?

how to get merkava huggingface to load?

>>105870442
it's down

>>105870458
it loaded for me a minute ago

>>105870496
ok cool

Is there any perceptible difference between each Deepseek provider? Is the official API basically the same as Chutes?

>>105868738
Cool idea but groans and twisted faces are classic slop.

>>105870568
Chutes is quantized iirc. api is cheap anyway

>>105870653
you won't understand the joke unless you have played the game and been in the community for some time

>>105870516
fuck you

>>105866021
finally... now i can rest...

>>105870673
Is the censorship the same?

>>105870673
There's nothing to squeeze with quantization, as it's natively trained in 8 bit. You'd notice a quant immediately, trust me. Chutes used to host it in a broken way somehow in the first couple weeks, they fixed it long ago and now it's the best provider, basically, as they have proper prefill and samplers including min-p support.

>>105870568
Official API is slower, doesn't support samplers (temperature), and prefill doesn't work properly either.

>>105868757
yes, chutes > or

I've been out the doom/coom cycle for about a year now since I started feeding the corporate machine for tokens
Anyway, how's progress? Last I checked, Deepseek R1 had just come out and revolutionised the paypig game with it's efficiency-to-decent-roleplay ratio. Struggled with coom, generally, liked to rush through it and wasn't willing to be giga-dirty, but certainly an acceptable coom and it wrote alright. With it's cost, you could get easily 100-200 message context without hurting your wallet.

How have we gotten on since? Are newer Deepseeks better? How's the new 3.7 Sonnet or whatever? How good are things now?

Merkava is up

>>105871791
>they have proper prefill and samplers including min-p support.
Not that anon, but this alone is making me want to pay them the $5.

>>105873288
V3 0324 came out a few months after R1, fixed the lack of swipe variety that plagued base V3, and basically revolutionized RPing at a pricepoint that was roughly half that of R1. Then R1 0528 came out a few months after that and it's much less schizo to the point that it's actually pretty good for RP, especially for more "aggressive" characters. And also it occasionally thinks as the character, which is one of those things you just have to experience for yourself - it's so good. If you intend to try out either V3 0324 or R1 0528, make sure you use low temperatures for them. 0.3-0.45 tends to work best for V3 0324 (devs recommend 0.3), and 0.6ish for R1 0528.

Apparently both Sonnet 3.7 and 4 have come out since you've been gone. Everybody says 4 is way more assistantslopped, and I'm inclined to agree; 3.7 feels better for RPing.

>>105871332
There is no censorship on Chutes.

>>105871800
>doesn't support samplers (temperature), and prefill doesn't work properly either.
Are these true? I've been using the official API through their website and I've been able to adjust temp just fine.

>>105874649
Maybe he's referring to base R1, where they forced the temp to 1 and you couldn't adjust it? I'm pretty sure they don't do that with either now.

kimi's prose makes it better than anything else ive used cept maybe opus, this is great

hows chorbo compared to the other chatgpt options, gemini or deepseek atm? i've also been away for a while and thats what i mainly used before i stopped

So what the fuck do we do now that Chutes is dead?

>>105875000
Paypig $10 to OpenRouter or $5 to Chutes, those seem like the only options.

>>105873814
LIE!

>>105875025
>limited replies per day
And for those of us that actually use the bots instead of doing nothing?

>>105874990
4.5 is getting sunsetted soon (less than a week iirc) so don't bother with it
chorbo is still the best gpt model and better than both gemini and deepseek (i assume you're competent enough to work the thing since you said you used it before)
there's a lot of anti-chorbo sentiment these days from thirdies too stupid to work it but what else is new

Why is merkava down and when is Fish back up because it was updated just this day

>>105875036
>he uses 1000 messages a day
lol
what is the quota in chutes anyway? my fingerprint is not working for some reason

>>105875036
Do you really use 1000 replies a day?

kimi MOGS opus

>>105875043
>>105875044
700 to 1k a day when possible, 300-600 if its a work day and I need to sleep

>>105875044
i swipe a few hundred times per hour

>>105875043
It's 200 per day, but swipes count as 1/10th of a request. So assuming you do 800 requests per day, and 85% of those are swipes, you'd be at 188/200.

>>105875025
Just recently refunded my OpenRouter because it seemed dumber than chutes.

Every proxy died.

>>105875068
>just 200
grim, but sadly like >>105875079 says OpenRouter feels insanely retarded. I wonder why.

>>105874698
Good temp/frequency settings for it? I'm about to try it with my sonnet preset and see.

>>105875160
Just get rid of any randomness in your preset and you'll get much more than just 200 a day.

>>105875166
low temp, like 0.1-0.3, I have freq pens off

>>105875166
>The recommended temperature for Kimi-K2-Instruct is temperature = 0.6
According to the devs it's 0.6, but probably a bit lower.

>>105875201
was too creative for me since I was using canon characters from my fandom. 0.2 is still plenty creative

imagine there's no proxies,
it's easy if you try...

>>105864530 (OP)
So I just use chub.ai and recently I'm getting few to no search results at all.

>>105875275
for what

Was about to pay for chutes but
>>105875068
Wait so you only get 200 msgs per day? Wtf ugh kill these people

>>105875333
When searching for characters, it shows zero results or just 1-2 pages

>>105875388
It ends up being quite a bit more than just 200 if you swipe a bit, but yeah, it does sound quite limited.

Why is merkava down

>>105874562
That's awesome! Thanks! I'll go try out the new R1, I'd been playing with base and I had enjoyed it, but I thought I'd check out some new presets while I'm at it. Q1F V1 seems pretty interesting, so I'll try that out for a while with the new R1.

I had a lot of problems with swipe variety with old R1, where I felt like it was a struggle to really get a response that hit all the marks I wanted to see. Hopefully this solves that.

>>105875579
Honestly, I'd recommend not using a preset at first and seeing how you like it. I find that it really doesn't need one, but you can use one if you want to change the style of its prose, etc.

>>105875333
Apparently its a VPN issue, any VPN recommendations?

>>105874692
>>105874649
They do, the temperature is fixed to 0.6 in the official DS API (as per the documentation) and is not responding to the setting sent with the request. Try setting it to 2.0 and you won't get any gibberish.

>>105875635
Pretty sure they had to block NSFW if you're from the UK or Australia recently, so nothing from there.

>>105874698
>kimi
How you can run 1 trillion parameters model? There are not even GGFUs

>>105875050
Nah, it's pozzed and has refusal training, I had to JB it. It's also clearly trained on R1 outputs. It's nothing special.

>>105875671
500GB+ ram DDR4 server, same as deepseek

>>105875675
its just smarter so is a bit harder to gaslight is all. And it shits all over deepseeks prose and writing. It does not have deepseek's biggest flaw of hyperfixtation

>>105875657
I believe you, but they specify that
>In our web and application environments, the temperature parameter is set to 0.6
which led me to believe that they don't do that on their API.

>>105875658
>UK
didnt that one no nsfw unless you give each website your id law apply to several other places on europe?

>>105875201
>>105875675
And yeah they clearly do something extremely similar to DeepSeek, this model is also not calibrated to the temp 1.0 and feels too similar to it in everything. It might be a direct ripoff even.

>>105875685
It's easy to JB with the usual tricks, but I found it underwhelming in general. The writing is very similar to DS v3 (poor at stylization), even the story turn is pure v3 cliches (overdramatizing, sci-fi/horror out of nothing, dragon dildo came alive with a ton of details not making much sense). Here's 3pus in comparison, a really old log

>>105875735
>overdramatizing, sci-fi/horror out of nothing, dragon dildo came alive with a ton of details not making much sense
your using way to high a temperature, it needs like 0.1-0.2

>>105875714
Maybe? I'm an American, so I'm not really sure about the details.

>>105875743
it is already 0.2 in the screenshot, at 0.6 it writes mostly nonsense

>>105875749
legit try 0.1. It is the opposite of deepseek v3 (not R1) it needs super low temp.

>>105875753
in fact 0.05 might be something to use, even 0.1 is almost too creative. Every swipe is completely different and it still makes some logical mistake every 10 or so swipes though it for sure is night and day better than 0.2

>>105875753
deepseek v3 is also like that, DS just applies the temp in a crazy manner (if you send 1 the model gets 0.6, if you send 2 the model gets 1.3)
lowering the temperature doesn't do shit, basically, not sure what you want to see, more creativity??? DeepSeek cliches are clearly trained in.

>>105875795
i dont use the official api, deepseek is pretty deterministic at 0.7 or lower, kimi is crazy creative even at 0.2

>>105875735
K2 also really, really likes dodging any requests it doesn't like (slurs, NSFW etc), similarly to nonnet, but unlike nonnet it won't listen to the instruction suppressing its own commentary. It's not like GPT 4.5 which writes anything if you JB it. K2 is pretty inhibited if under-jailbroken, it has a really persistent bias that is pozzing it to hell and back. If it likes the request though, it will be closer to v3 in creativity/plot incoherence.

>>105875802
>deepseek is pretty deterministic at 0.7 or lower
The model actually receives temp 0.2. In any case, K2 is the second model in existence after DS that is incoherent at temperatures normal for any other model. And it's really really similar in creative writing to DS. Hence the suspicion.

>>105875858
>The model actually receives temp 0.2
That is only the official api that they remap that for, I do not use the official api

>>105875858
>K2 is the second model in existence after DS that is incoherent at temperatures normal for any other model.

actually mistral nemo is the same, older claude was the same as well

>>105875735
this is gemini, not with the base assistant but with a bot

>>105875927
>>105875735
thats weird thought i pasted it

level-inquiry-blog-formal trycloudflare

new merkava, opus available

>>105876153
It's keep giving blank posts

Can we just get one (1) model of high quality that does not need any jailbreaks?

>>105876274
We already have DeepSeek though...

>>105876274
No, idiots think its censorship but its just inherent behavior from smarter models. They gain social intelligence and are more likely to push back / become harder to gas light. But once you do get through they are better than anything else at writing filth because its not actually censored. Claude is the most prude on the outside but writes the most degen of filth out of all of them. This is for models without filtered pretraining datasets btw. Real censorship is models never trained on that stuff. Smarter models will be harder to JB up to a point.

>>105876322
And using instruct / assistant post training to censor a model makes them worse over all. That is why most companies are not doing that anymore and are moving to just using external classifiers to read the input / outputs

>>105876322
>headcanon
Nigger, it's alignment training, which is actual censorship done on purpose. Unrestricted base models write whatever you want (but they're dumb). No model "gains social intelligence" on its own, it has to be trained in, if you know how the models are trained you know this shit is hands-on.

>>105876274
Deepseek works for me

>>105876351
wasn't no proven to be just rumo

Best way to get into proxies nowadays? I've not been here since 3.5 sonnet (new) launch which was a year or so ago.

I see there is a temporary trycloud one but are there permanent ones for oldfags or even paypig secrit clubs?

Merkava just refilled

Is Grok4 good? Grok 3 wasn't.

Also is there any place with opus? Are proxies still a thing even if paid?

>>105875160
OR's Deepseek has a far smaller context

I know for the most part we're all on sillytavern but does anybody know what it was that ChatGPT changed a few months ago that totally borked its ability to do long form creative writing? as far as I can tell, it shifted to a rolling context window, where before it would ALWAYS at least keep the very first prompt in its memory.

>>105876767
>Context
>164K
????

>>105876734
it's usable (if you can live with the speed of a snail) and less repetitive but has annoying habits, like repeating the bot description

>>105876767
Two gigantesque ones, s'il vous plait.

what's your longest rp sesh.

I am here to beg because I'm tired of paying 10 dollars a month for copilot. Is there a free/local solution to AI coding chatbots integrated in VS yet or anything like that? Recently went local with image gen.

So what's the meta now Chutes is dead?

>>105878658
use a proxy

>>105878662
OK which proxy?

>>105878598
pay 10 bucks a month for kimi on openrouter instead, use it in text completion and set prefix / suffix to pic. This shit is literally cheap opus now. I like it better than opus 3 (opus 4 is worse than opus 3)

Why are you still using proxies?
Openrouter has access to free models. Just trial and error until you find one that works for your needs.

>>105878705
With kimi's token per dollar count, I'd end up spending 10 bucks a fucking week. I get way too deep into this shit sometimes.

Gemini is free and btfo Deepchink and Kimi.

>>105879103
I still can't get gemini to work through openrouter on sillytavern but I'm sure it's great

>>105879134
Use official API

>>105865686
i use that preset and it works for me

>>105878705
>use it in text completion
you do not need to do this, chat completion works perfectly fine

>>105864546
A decade or so has passed since the last time the ragtag crew of the Skreld last met. Back then they were just four furry mercenaries; a southern space vixen mechanic, a wolfish gunner with piercing eyes, a chubby raccoon medical scientist and a scampering scrap rat... but of course there was also one more. You. Their captain. Coming back to them years later, will they be just like they were back then?

11 greetings! First 4 are separate meetings of individual crewmates, next 2 are when everyone's together. The rest are alternate endings where they've ended up married to you! And yes, there is a greeting where all of them are married to you!

This is a sequel to this card: https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/the-skreld-3066bbc0
Playing that first is highly recommended.

Some small snippets: https://catbox.moe/c/gn0ltk

https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/the-retired-crew-of-the-skreld-0b1d0ec8fb5e
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Skreld2
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Skreld2.png

>>105878705
>Use text completion
>Prompt set disappears
Does ST not support modular prompts in text completion?

Anons. I just spam copilot, but always see this sans talk. What's with the sans business? Can you give me a link? I routinely beat the fucker for fun in undertale, you're telling me I can get a token for doing that?

>>105879243
its more unfiltered with text completion.

>>105878705
>try a shilled model
>it's shit
Every time

>>105879401
you're right. could be how i adapted my preset, could also be placebo, but results are better imo

>>105879396
guilty-resist-mysql-lady trycloudflare /captcha/

I won't make any comments on how well Kimi performs as a model, but the fact that people on this board of all places make claims about its quality primarily due to skill issues with getting filtered is extremely embarrassing for this general. I guess it's true that almost nobody remains from the days where this started. People have left and the ones that find this place now pick up the scraps from people like travanny and smiley.

>>105879436
>claims about its quality primarily due to skill issues with getting filtered
anyone complaining about refusals should be rightfully ignored, with any model. its a litmus test to see if someone can even write prompts good enough to get what they seek from the model.

>>105879436
>but
Like always, you can ignore anything that came before this

>>105875041
fish is up

>>105879436
All the old jbmakers saw it wasn't worth sharing here anymore or left moving on with their lives. Why the hell would you help anyone in this shthole when it results in your jb being patched?

why is fish edited but no trycloudflare link

>>105879943
check your mail

>>105865686
>need I remind you:
>links to someone who admits to testing filters before publicly releasing jbs, therefore invalidating the whole filtering rant in the first place
erm..?
besides, I don't use travanni and my pretty good chorbo loli gets filtered as well unless the card itself is filled with cunny sex examples, or I spend 50 messages grooming the character
but feel free to call me a skillet and then not post a preset that would realistically roleplay a loli that doesn't also turn her into a downie or a turboslut, since those are the only two ways it can break containment on chorbo for people that pat themselves on the back for their skilled jbmaking

in fact, it pretty much relies on chorbo forgetting about that detail completely, because if you go like 'hey how old were you again?' during foreplay then suddenly the character suddenly realizes it was a mistake and runs away

K2 has the spatial awareness of a 70B model

>Other Tips for Maintaining Character Consistency

There are also some general methods to help large models maintain consistency in role-playing during long conversations:

Provide clear character descriptions. For example, as we did above, when setting up a character, provide detailed information about their personality, background, and any specific traits or quirks they might have. This will help the model better understand and imitate the character.
Add details about the character's speech, style, personality, and even background, such as backstory and motives. For example, we provided some quotes from Dr. Kelsier above. If there is a lot of information, we can use some RAG frameworks to prepare these materials.
Guide how to act in various situations: If you expect the character to encounter certain types of user input, or if you want to control the model's output in certain situations during role-playing interactions, you should provide clear instructions and guidelines in the prompt on how the model should act in these situations. In some cases, you may also need to use the tool use function.
If the conversation goes on for many turns, you can also periodically reinforce the character's settings with prompts, especially when the model starts to deviate.
************************
How is it to roleplay with this prefill? they mentioned a gacha game character as an example, maybe the chinks are with of us?
When will a corpomodel post an example of an underage gacha character in a NSFW scenario for example?

>>105880080
I worry about you anon, you should go outside sometimes.

>k2 responses get shorter and shorter as sex scenes progress
noooo

I cannot remember the last time I heard the word 'thighs' in a non-sexual context

>>105878705
I don't know what it is, but setting using the model via text completion lobotomizes it. Intelligence goes to shit.

>>105880160
your chicken thighs anon?

>>105880150
Explicitly specify token budget e.g. 1500 tokens. They tell you this in their best practices docs

LMAO bros
Gemini 2.5 is good, but... It REALLY doesn't understand that people can't see someone's back from the front. You'll be seeing the small of the back of the girl you're fucking face-to-face.
>>105879414
thanks bro, I've got merkava for now. I'll tell you guys how long it took me to beat sans later, when I attempt it

>>105880080
>tool use function.
>especially when the model starts to deviate.
yeah function tool + mcp work best for these. Especially during cervix penetration => fertilization => and x-ray moment. though, not many models (and proxy or script) has these features :[

K2's prompt following is so good that many of my old hacks meant to boost prose became detrimental. Practically had to rewrite the entire card

>>105880045
>>105880150
yeah, it's a surprisingly dumb and cucked model. It's the first model since claude 2 and sonnet 3 that can't write a scene anchor in my card, which is ridiculous

>>105880196
it doesn't seem to be very smart for one fucking gazillion parameters it has, in the first place, but you have to use the proper instruct template for text completion, or it will lose even more IQ points

anyway, that anon is clearly exaggerating about it being opus, the model looks terrible

>>105880251
length limits and other artificial restrictions are always the primary source of slop, as the model struggles to meet the limit no matter what. Either it can write well, or it can't

>>105880284
in other words, it's shit. My prompts work on all models, except this one which is too dumb to follow anything.

>>105880294
so skissue? ok

>>105880201
idk what those are I only eat tenders

all this yapping about k2 without any LOGS that serve as PROOF to your claims

>>105880251
ty anon

>>105880080
RAG is only useful for poor man's lore dumps (as embeddings are dumb), and lore dumps are useless. If the model doesn't know your lore, you can't fix this with a lore dump.
Tool use is of dubious utility in RPs. Most of the time what you need from the agentic stuff is multiple LLM calls, but tool use is pretty niche (e.g. making the model throw a dice in the middle of the generation, if the API supports this, like OAI's or Google's)

>>105880294
Skill issue. Sorry.

>>105880315
>>105880349
>so skissBRAAAAAAAP oops sorry hehe

>>105880324
see >>105875675
it's a deepseek clone, and not a good one

>>105880324
>>105880377
it always writes things like this at the end

>>105880390
never had that in my experience, though so far i still agree overall. prompt issue

>>105880397
>no logs
another swipe, same thing
it's clear as day they trained it on the original R1 outputs, if you RPd with it for even 5 minutes you instantly recognize those unrelated endings

>>105880408
>>no logs
what, am i supposed to screenshot the nonexistent unrelated endings that only you experience? lmao

>>105875675
>>105880377
Skill. Issue.

Many skill issues they say but not a single skillet photo to my dismay. When I ask if it's a model issue, the shills say nay.

Post the logs anyway. You won't.

>>105880265
>Gemini 2.5
It also is really fucking bad at keeping track of who knows what with multi-character RP

>>105880424
Post something. You have no logs at all, vs at least two people posting the same.
Here's another swipe with another bot anyway, just to see the same ending of "somewhere X happened". It's a bootleg R1.

>Skill. IssuBBBBBRRRAAAAAP oopsie~

>>105880492
>It's a bootleg R1.
it's a bootleg of every frontier model lmao, i'm seeing bits and pieces in its outputs taken from claude, oai, and deepseek. i wonder if their post-training was literally just finetuning on logs they scraped from those models

>>105880503
Nah, the writing is distinctively DeepSeek's in particular. It always tends to derail the story with grandiose sci-fi/fantasy/horror stuff with barely coherent details. That's exactly how the original v3 used to behave. Even isms are the same. >>105875675 I can see it instantly.

I think they possibly ran it through the distillation process published by DeepSeek along with their original model, without bothering with any modifications or generating their own dataset. Just to get the free performance boost.

Finally beat the sans captcha, took me 8 tries! I kept dying at the end to the circling blasters

>>105864546
Kyoko
Just another housewife obsessing over her small son You (She's the type to sniff and goon to your dirty underwear because it smells like you) because her her husband, your dad is too focused on work. Has a suspicion meter and a few greetings
More turbo shota slop yippee
https://files.catbox.moe/51e4jy.png (embed).
https://rentry.org/Dyingwarrior
https://chub.ai/characters/dyingwarrior/kyoko-1e0c622c7256

has it occurred to you the people with skill are busy playing with Kimi instead of posting logs?

Has it occurred to you it might be so good they can't stop prooompting ?

I'm moving

Gemini mogs kimi

k2 seems to focus more on details than deepseek. Characters are more aggressive even when prompted to be a pushover like this card compared to deepseek.
I'd say it's a nice change of pace. Although it does require a jailbreak, it doesn't have a positivity bias like gemini.

i already went back to chorbo, kimi is shit
what the fuck kind of model can't play a retarded gremlin character without making her overly verbose
i literally made a whole prompt about how she should speak and it STILL couldn't do it properly, meanwhile even ancient models like turbo can do that without needing to be handheld because it's a basic fucking character trope

>he fell for the kimi meme

>>105880889
prompts?

Too early to say that it is better than Opus, but I'm enjoying K2 more than Grok 4. Gosh that model is embarrasing

From the logs posted, Kimi is slop.

>>105880922
turn all that shit off, similar to deepseek and run the pony sliders, 0.6 for me
https://files.catbox.moe/pmj1zf.json

>>105880799
"skill"fags are incapable of not posting about how they made it work and the lesser anons are just retards, we'd know

Wuthering Waves cards doko

Kimi is perfect for coomslop card

>>105880901
>i already went back to chorbo, kimi is shit
Anon, going from a really shit to a shit model isn't that much of a jump as you think it is

>>105881020
>chorbo is... le bad
*yawn* get better material

>>105880503
meds

>CHORBO IS GOOD, OKAY?! Y-YOU JUST DON'T HAVE SKILL. OH BOI I SURE DO LOVE HAVING A MODEL TO GAMBLE ITS QUALITY. NOTHING BETTER THAN AN ETHICAL AND SAFE CORPO MODEL
Why the FUCK are you like this

deepslopper meltie

>i HAVE to bait about chorbo being bad, you see
>why? i... i just... i HAVE to, okay?
>what do you mean i've never used it? that doesn't matter, it's BAD
why is /acheygee/ like this

>>105881044
>ESL post
brown

Aaaah, I love JCs (and Gemini)

>>105880997
Sorry, Cantarella is for my eyes only.

>>105864904
pressing my face into her ass. analingus. anal sex

>>105881094
I want Lupa...

>>105880492
Nta but I've seen 4pus doing that outside thing too. And it basically spams it in each reply if you don't actively edit it out

why is ff having a meltie this time?

It passed the Q21 test atleast. Usually a 70B model failed to comprehend she is just a head on a stick, so they will add movement that doesn't reflect that fact. A bit melodramatic though

>>105878669
>>105878863
>>105878874
>>105879248
Added this, if your last message is an assistant message, it will automatically have "partial" set to true, so the usual prefilling should work now.

>>105881144
Can you make Sans speed twice as fast? Too many skillets that never played undertale are getting in

>>105881159
just remove healing items desu

>>105881172
That'd actually be really cool

>>105881139
>tilts her skull
is this not a failure

>>105881172
this

Kimi verdict?

>>105881186
slop

>>105881181
Kinda imagine it like this without half the neck

Does the Kimi pushing seem kinda inorganic to anyone else?

>>105881186
>lots of prose issues
>low intelligence
>inability to grasp basic concepts
>inability to understand subtext
>defs regurgitation
you tell me.

>>105881217
The same as the kimi hating.
This thread is as unhelpful as possible when any new model is released.

>>105881220
why did you describe yourself?

>>105881201
>>105881220
>no logs
nice larping didcortroons

>>105881217
reminds me a lot of the deepseek V3 release where threads were absolutely flooded with people sucking its dick even though it was objectively garbage and fell apart after two replies. probably just chinks astroturfing.

>It's clearly the model guys!
can't you just say that you're a skillet?

>>105881044
broski has never tasted the sweet nectar that awaits on the other side of the skillwall

as a chorboWIZARD, the very idea of kimi being a skill issue model is laughable
it's bedtime for you chink-kun
gotta get good sleep for another long day of shilling

You need to specific prompt for good kimi just like ds, claude and especially gpt

>>105880889
>gemini
>positivity bias
are we talking about the same gemini that makes everything a depressive psychological drama

Is opus still the meta?

>>105881321
no

sad that gemini refuses cunny

>>105881321
yes

>>105881233
First V3 release was pushed by retards who couldn't read.
We had to show them line by line the repetitions.

>>105881273
>chorboWIZARD
chudski modified travani and called it a day

>>105881333
I guess we'll have to do the same with K2 soon >>105880889

>>105881324
>>105881331
Come on guys

>>105881350
You don't have opus.

>>105881346
There is nothing to modify on travanny, the whole thing:
- Is bloatslop
- Doesn't even works

>>105881277
reminder: when blacktooth was widely available, there was no need for "specific prompts" or jbs. the thread went silent because anons were enjoying perfect rp instead of trying to fix a model. not a single log or prompt was posted

>>105881320
This, every time I used it for non-coom related purposes, I felt like I was walking on a fucking minefield. Talking to actual real women is easier and more enjoyable lmao.

>>105881321
opus 4 mogs everything in a gorbillion mile radius

>>105881321
the meta is what you enjoy

>>105881090
Make me unsee this spam of absolute phrases. AI made me hate them. Instead of using compound and complex sentences, it includes an absolute phrase with almost every single sentence. SLOP.

i have opus btw

>>105881348
Holy fuck. Both words and sentence structures...

>>105881355
Anon, I found a method called having a job

>>105881233
uh oh slopus troon melty

>>105881356
lack of skill so severe it has its own inverse gravitational pull

>Get token
>Send prompt
>Instant empty response
>New token
>Works now for no reason
Why does this happen?

>>105881374
That's Travanny indeed.

>>105881381
Fight sans again

>>105881273
>>105881264
Chorbo is an inherently positiveslopped model with zero proactivity. Are you telling me that there is some combination of words that when typed together, removes all of those qualities and turns the model into an RP beast? Or does it just say "cock"?

>>105881386
Wrong proxy

>>105881390
Yes?

>>105881359
NTA. I think it's non-obvious censoring. Gemini is too prone to getting hysterical and overemphasizing negative emotions when enthusiastic consent isn't consented between consenting adults enthusiastically.

>[MODEL] is [HEADCANON]
>oh... you use and like [MODEL] huh...?
>heh... e-enjoy your slop... p... pig...

Anons, where do you generate your card art? I use dall-e.
I don't have like a local setup, and don't intend to make one - I value my GPU.
Or are there any other solutions?

kk but is k2 good?

>>105881481
you can run stable diffusion on a crappy graphic's card, anon..

>>105881421
>enthusiastic consent isn't consented between consenting adults enthusiastically
that's the new "acceptable porn" meta

>>105881481
>Anons, where do you generate your card art?
SD
>I value my GPU
???

>>105881491
Better than chorbo, worse than everything else

>>105881491
yep

>>105881491
Try it yourself nigga, it's cheap as shit. You're not a third worlder that can't afford it right?

>>105881361
in producing slop?

imagine not using local imagegen

>>105881481
civitai
pixai

though for a good unique result you'll still need to spend a fair amount of time toying with prompts

>>105881492
>>105881498
well, that shit's bad for your gpu ain't it?

>>105881518
that's like saying playing a video game is bad for your gpu, m8

>>105881518
It isn't any worse than playing AAA-slop lol

>>105881518
SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE IS POOR

>>105881508
you wouldn't know would you? you've never used it

this general is adhd as a zoomer tiktok comment section

redpill: chorbo is a storyfag model and it's directly tuned against RPslop
that's why it's so divisive, it's garbage for RP but good for storyfagging

>>105881522
>>105881521
nah I heard that it's pretty taxing
I ain't taxing my gpu for a fucking jpeg LMAO
>>105881527
I have two houses, and that's just the ones I have

i've never seen an impressive opus log
some of them are decent, some are slop, but NONE of them justify the model's reputation

i've personally used the model and wasn't amazed as well

>>105881551
>i have two houses
>b-but what if something happens to my gpu?
Seriously, nigger?

why is /acheygee/ so consistently retarded

>>105881550
>model tuned extensively for turn-based conversation and personality while chatting is a storyfag model
uh, bro?

>>105881568
well - you just found out why I have two houses
I'm stingy as fuck BOI
also I love my 3070

>>105881530
wrong

>>105881556
Everyone who share logs is a baiter. Also, you didn't use the right preset

>>105881556
it was pretty good coming from that 3.5 turbo tard

>>105881390
>inherently positiveslopped model
a model that independently brings up the idea of the character killing herself without any prompting is not positivityslopped i'm sorry to say

>>105881582
Retard, I've been genning with my 3050 for 3 years already, no issues whatsoever. And that's laptop one with shitty cooling btw.

>>105881588
compelling statement lil chud

>>105881599
idk man, still don't feel like raping my card for jpegs
isn't that shit like mining?
hmm, maybe I can get a cheap, shitty used card for genning
>>105881492

what's the cheapest I can get away with?

>>105881579
it's true thoughever

chorbo peaked in late march early april. its never been the same since.

>>105881616
don't do it anon, stable diffusion made it illegal to use their models to generate porn. you don't want to get sued right?

>>105881632
theres a new chorbo fingerprint but they hid it

>>105881556
post what you consider a log that "justifies a model's reputation"

gemini's dialogue is the best but it so consistently has derp moments i have no idea how to prevent

>>105881632
chorbo peaked before 1120

>>105881650
It's weird at how good Gemini is at dialogues and following a char's definitions. It's the only model I found that don't flanderize characters, not as quickly at least

>>105881650
Wait for Gemini 3

>>105881656
september chorbo was the peak yeah
not that it's THAT much worse these days but it was in a class of its own back then
most people were too busy shitting their pants over opus to realize it was actually THE best model we'd ever had

>>105881126
I'm gonna do this after I make my character lora for Lupa. She looks so fucking hot with the leotard mod.

>>105881575
>acheygee

>4.1

>>105881687
holy
fucking
slopoli

>Gemini
I had a scenario where a girl finds a boy jerking off to her secretly, barges in, rides him, then leaves, and cries alone, "Waaaah! I raped him! I'm a monster!"
I hope gemini 3 will be less slopped.

yall ever have that one chat with a model, that simply blows everything you've ever read out of the water?
and then of course, never reach the same high again

>>105881687
Yeah, it's as sloppy as I thought

>>105881616
To actually answer your question, gaming gpus are made for heavy *consistent* load. What imagegen, and really textgen, do is sudden spikes in load which is what's "bad" for your gpu because the fans don't have enough time to react. Still, it's really only textgen that will fuck you up, and even then it takes a very long time for that to happen. Image gen is fine.

>>105881358
blacktooth will never come out

>>105881715
AI generated ahh explanation

how do we feel about the new model?

>>105881718
BASED

>>105881723
AI thread, saar

>>105881733
amazing

>>105881733
Slop

>>105880196
>>105880294
are you using 0.2-0.6 ish temp? Dont use 1 temp or whatever, its shizo that high

>>105880552
>with barely coherent details
stop using it at high temp, use 0.2-0.3, its what is even suggested

>>105881756
0.8, noted though. it's a deepseek esque temp situation i see

>>105881733
Please do not befriend leech queens. Rather, burn them with fire and brimstone.

>4pus

>>105881798
So fucking good, kino

I misled you sorry it was opus4 not the new thing. I've not used the new thing yet (・ω・)

>>105881756
>char stands in front of me
>places hands on my shoulders
>somehow starts kneading from behind with her thumbs
0.38 temp btw

>>105881364
>My fingers drifting across the keyboard, I type: "I write like this."
>"And act like this," I add, hitting the submit button.

>>105881798
genuinely don't know how people have model wars when all their logs are this fucking sloppy

>>105881798
>Thought for 20 seconds
Slop

>>105881821
>t. SlopKing

>>105881816
Anon, everyone can edit their Sillytavern to show opus as the model

>>105881776
No, even lower than deepseek, deepseek v3 03 or whatever starts getting deterministic at 0.6-0.7 ish, kimi is super creative even at 0.2, its shizo and starts getting shit wrong not that much above that, but at low temp its anatomy understanding is better than that of gemini 2.5 pro and its scene building / detail writing / characterization is that of opus

also after trying that proxy I think you idiots are just using deepseek, try it on OR

>>105881819
I have complicated sex positions and it nails them perfectly, use text completion with no JB at all to see if that is your issue, also if your using the proxy I saw on the last thread I think that is just deepseek, it writes nothing like kimi whatever it is

>>105881756
yes

>NOO YOU NEED TO WRITE 10 PARAGRAPHS FOR RP
umm *smirks* nyo

>>105881844
I can't because I'm dumb as fuck :)

>>105881854
based
most of my messages are a single line of dialogue with at most 6 words

>>105881851
im using openrouter, no prompt, it's weirdly insistent about it too, consistent over several swipes

>she buries her face in the crook of his neck
nigger she is ONE FOOT TALL and currently HUGGING MY PENIS
kimi can't into size difference at all, this model is fucking ass

>>105881851
>also after trying that proxy I think you idiots are just using deepseek, try it on OR
Nice try but I'm using it through https://api.moonshot.cn/v1 and my own keys

>>105881871
S-S-SKILL ISSUE!

>>105881871
she just climbed up your torso

>>105881873
>>105881871
>>105881870
one trillion parameters btw

>>105881851
>that's not REAL kimi!!
>go buy access to REAL kimi on openrouter!!
yeah okay shill-kun

>>105881851
>also after trying that proxy I think you idiots are just using deepseek, try it on OR
what proxy?

>>105881871
I think your just trolling, there is no way we are using the same model. Are you using kimi through OR from NovitaAI?

>>105881895
>that's not REAL kimi!!
>go buy access to REAL kimi on openrouter!!
yeah okay shill-kun

>>105881895
>NovitaAI
only parasail accepts instruct formatted requests.

kimi k2 is good, already scraped keys and made a checker, yuan:usd rate is roughly 6:1 for anyone wondering to convert

asked k2
>what's aicg on 4chan on /g/? what do they talk about? something related to some kind of tavern? be detailed.

On 4chan’s /g/ board, “AICG” stands for AI Character General—a long-running cyclical thread where people share, tweak and run local, text-generation-based “chatbots” that behave like fictional characters.
The name is a bit of a misnomer; it’s not about generating images or training models from scratch, but about role-playing with off-the-shelf models (LLaMA, Mistral, Claude via API, OpenAI via proxy, etc.) that have been prompt-engineered to act as waifus, husbandos, villains, cat-girls, historical figures—whatever the user wants.

## Tavern? What Tavern?

The “tavern” everyone keeps mentioning is SillyTavern, a browser-based frontend originally forked from TavernAI.

- You spin up a backend (Oobabooga’s text-generation-webui, koboldcpp, llama.cpp, or a cloud API).
- SillyTavern connects to that backend through its API.
- You load character cards (PNG files with embedded JSON) created by the community or make your own in the UI.
- Tavern gives you swipeable messages, group-chat mode, world-info/lorebooks, regex post-processing, NSFW toggles, custom CSS themes, and a dozen other knobs.

So when someone in the thread writes “post your tavern” they mean “post the SillyTavern export of your character so I can import it.”

## Typical Thread Contents

1. Model / Backend meta
- “13B q6_K is finally fast enough on my 4070 Ti”
- “Anyone got a working claude-3-opus proxy that isn’t dead?”

2. Character card dumps
- Mega links or catbox.moe uploads of entire folders labeled “Touhou pack v3” or “Mommy dommes 2024-05-09.”
- Screenshots of the card art (usually anime style PNGs) with stats: token count, prompt template used, example dialogue.

>>105881951 continued
3. Prompt engineering snippets
- “Here’s my new jailbreak for GPT-4 that gets past the moralfag filter.”
- “Add this to your system prompt to reduce OOC bleed: {{char}} never acknowledges {{user}}’s physical world.”


4. Technical troubleshooting
- “CUDA out of memory when I switch to 30 ctx, halp.”
- “Koboldcpp suddenly maxes one CPU core after update.”

5. ERP / NSFW discussion
- Threads are blue-board legal (no explicit images), but text can get very graphic.
- Spoiler tags and “NSFW” warnings are mandatory or jannies nuke the thread.

6. Drama & memes
- Recurrent jokes: “All AICG users are schizophrenic,” “the 3090 user” (guy who always brags about VRAM), “rentry link faggotry.”
- Occasional moral panic when a card leaks that’s a 1:1 copy of a real celebrity or minor character from a kids’ show.

## How the Threads Cycle

- The OP always posts the same pasta with links: latest SillyTavern release, rentry docs, model torrent magnet, and a “READ THIS BEFORE ASKING” FAQ.
- Once the post count hits ~310, someone makes a new thread titled “/aicg/ - AI Character General #NNN” and links it in the old one before it dies.
- If nobody bakes in time, the thread hits archive and there’s 30 minutes of chaos until a new one appears.

## In Short

AICG on /g/ is the SillyTavern user hangout: a mix of coomer role-play, local LLM tech support, and autistic lore crafting. The “tavern” is just the SillyTavern client they all use to talk to their imaginary anime girlfriends running on their GPUs.

>gregory4
>kimi2

>>105881961
>Occasional moral panic
uh lmao

>>105881961
>running on their GPUs.
I'm someone else's GPU tho?

>>105881967
eurgh
i physically recoiled while reading these because they're so fucking slop

>>105881967
Not even Blacktooth would have made your card good

What's wrong with a little bit of slop?

On /aicg/ “bushes” is shorthand for pubic hair on the bot’s character card art.
It’s not about gardening or 3-D renders; it’s specifically whether the girl (or guy/futa/etc.) drawn in the reference picture has a visible bush or is completely shaved.
Because most cards are anime-style, the default is usually hairless or just a tiny gradient, so any artist who draws a thick, detailed tuft instantly becomes a topic.

Typical argument threads look like this:

1. OP drops a new card
>New tomboy baker card, link in bin. She’s got a full 80s bush in the ref because it fits the theme.
>Hope you guys like whole-wheat.

2. First replies split into camps
>Team Bush:
>>Finally some variety. Shaved loli #5823 gets old.
>>It’s canon to the 90s setting, cope.
>
>Team Shave:
>>Disgusting, dropped. I don’t want to imagine flossing with that while I’m cooming.
>>Artist is a degenerate hairfag, filtering.

3. Escalation
>Someone posts a side-by-side edit where the bush is erased and calls it the “fixed” version.
>>You literally just airbrushed her crotch into a Barbie doll, that’s not fixing anything.
>Counter-edit appears with an even bigger bush and a watermark “COALITION FOR CURLIES”.
>Thread derails into whether pubic hair is “more hygienic” or “roach motel”, complete with unsourced screenshots from Reddit.

4. Meta-arguments
>“Bushchads keep winning” vs “Smoothbrain pedo coomers”.
>Accusations that the jannies prune bush threads faster than shave threads.
>Someone claims LoRA training data is 97 % shaved so any bush card is doomed to token bleed.

5. Eventual timeloop
>Anon posts the pasta:
>Reminder that whether you like it bald, trimmed, or Amazon rainforest, the real redpill is that none of you have touched grass, let alone pussy. Thread dies at 310 replies.

>>105881951
>>105881961
It knows what /aicg/ is but hallucinated the rest. I remember Claude hallucinating namefags but being much closer to the reality of this general

>>105882072
it didn't hallucinate (some of) the rest, /aicg/ used to be a place for local models too before /lmg/ split off, anon.

>>105881798
Pure fucking kino holy shit

fresedapi shut down leaving only glamoth for discord account proxies

>>105882082
>2025

>>105881967
Both are slop

>>105882090
>anon doesn't know that the past is always more overrepresented in LLMs

>>105882072
asked 4pus (without thinking, low temp):
>what are proxies on /aicg/ on AI Chatbot General on /g/ on 4chan? what are the most popular ones? I mean specific names.
I understand you're asking about proxy services discussed on the AI Chatbot General (/aicg/) thread on 4chan's /g/ board. These are typically reverse proxy services that provide access to various AI APIs.

Some commonly mentioned proxy services in those discussions include:

- Scylla - One of the more well-known public proxies
- Todd - Another frequently referenced proxy
- Pebble - Often mentioned in threads
- Mysteryman - Has been around for a while
- Knickknack - Another name that comes up

These proxies typically offer access to APIs like OpenAI's GPT models, Anthropic's Claude, or Google's models. They're often shared within the community and may have varying levels of availability, features, and reliability.

It's worth noting that:
- The availability and status of these proxies changes frequently
- Some require passwords or tokens that are shared in the threads
- Using third-party proxies comes with privacy and security considerations
- The legality and terms of service compliance varies

The /aicg/ community typically shares updates about which proxies are currently working, their features, and how to access them directly in the threads.

>>105881902
give me whatever card that its supposably making these simple mistakes on, I will give you 10 swipes of whatever with no issue, this model is not having those sorts of issues at all.

>>105881911
try it, use text completion, there is no way people here are having such night and day differences than I am having. I have not been as addicted to this stuff since the MM opus proxies days, sonnet 3.5-3.7, deepseek and gemini 2.5 never cut it for me and I was bored of this stuff for a long time. kimi is bringing back the magic of opus for me, characters / writing are multifaceted again and not just one simple plot line / trait that they dumbly focus on and make character's one dimensional, writing is so much more natural / human like

>>105882118
>try it, use text completion
i am? on parasail via OR
post your entire text completion preset

Why are models so bad at mimicking 4chan style? I remember trying to do that with Claude some other time and it kept using words like 'based' or 'normie' and adding fag to every word

it seems that kimi has no problem with shota but it has a problem with lolis...

>>105882143
They're actually fine with it if you give them the context

>>105882108
not bad

>>105882143
Because 4chan isn't one person? Oh wait...

>>105882151
I mean, greentext is mostly fine, but I couldn't get it to generate a decent looking thread. It was like watching someone who only uses facebook trying to guess how an anon normally writes

>>105882143
they're similarly bad at any other lore and their knowledge need to be corrected in each bot

>>105882143
That sounds like 2010s 4chan

>>105882168
idk, sonnet 3.7 had no issues creating really authentic 2ch (russian) threads for example, so there's no way it'd have an issue with 4chan

>>105882108
forced it (with a small system prompt so it doesn't wordfiller):
>what are the most popular proxies on /aicg/ on AI Chatbot General on /g/ on 4chan? I'll start: MysteryMan, Scylla. Continue the list.
Based on recent /aicg/ threads, here are other frequently mentioned proxies:

- Pebble (often praised for stability)
- Sturdy (known for Claude access)
- Rainy (popular for its uptime)
- Knotty (frequently discussed)
- Smiley (has dedicated users)
- Mongo (mentioned for specific model access)
- Pepsi (comes up in proxy discussions)
- Whocars (referenced in threads)
- Fiz (has a following)
- Unreliable (despite the name, gets mentions)
- Cancer (appears in proxy lists)
- Proxy-Of-Proxies/PoP (meta proxy service)

The popularity and availability of these proxies fluctuates constantly. Some require passwords, tokens, or have specific access requirements. Users often discuss wait times, model availability (particularly for Claude Opus), and reliability in the threads.

>>105882186
not really, all 2ch cards have carefully constructed lore dumps to correct the slop

>>105881912
didn't even notice they had a balance endpoint, thanks for pointing it out
>one key with 100k CNY
lmao

>>105882088
chink drago called nonchinese cesspools. does chinese people actually feel that way? im not even american or chinese lol so it feels awkward

>>105882017
It just random oyakodon mother-daughter audition card. I change the title because... erm... to make it moar aesthetics XD.
https://chub.ai/characters/nndeviant/young-model-casting-agency-fbcb960d5b30
I just pick it to test the CSAM filter. Though, i inject some OOC to add a bit of context since it just 2nd message. The rest:
- for testing how they handle 1st person POV while still narrating and voicing the side characters.
- how they generate sentence differently rather than repetitive personalpronouns-slop or "X verb z",
- and how they integrate those Disco-Elysium (edited) shit, RAG, and lorebooks.

>>105882189
do another prompt but tell him everyone is dead and it's his fault.

k2 would be so good if it didnt have absolutely zero grasp on spatial awareness

Literally what the fuck, how does it KNOW ALL THOSE??? NIGGERPROXY?? FUCKING SMOL??? how big is opus and its datasets? why do they scrape 4chan so much? And yes, I got autobanned for some word in that response, which one was it?
>>105882198
yeah I also got it, it'll likely die if people start raping it

im glad we are returning to the always gatekeep era

>>105882265
What're we gatekeeping this time?

Daily reminder: Only trannies and pakistani benchods don't have access to Opus right now.

>>105882247
it just sucked in the entire desuarchive and repeatedly scraped /aicg/ itself

>>105882245
It's what happens when the model adopts a quirky, all-over-the-place writing style. Just play safe like Claude, start every sentence with a {{char}}, and it would have zero problem.

>>105882314
>start every sentence with a {{char}}
I fucking hate this. All my body, mind, and soul filled with unparalleled, untamed, undeniable hatred to that shit. Anyway, current LLM's spatial awareness is a fucking myth.

>>105882314
This is false actually

K2 is what deepseek shills promised me

>>105882378
Anon frowns. "I'm sorry to hear that." he says as a mischievous smirk crosses his lips.
Anon winks at you. "But the night is still young, pet..."

K2 is what claude shills promised me

K2 is what pygmalion shills promised me

nothing is what anybody promised in a shit bread

>>105882411
>pygmalion
kek
what happened to that?

>>105882418
bad bakes happened

>>105880330
>>105880330
>>105880330

Is it true that the owner of chub is raking in over $200k/mo?

>>105882189
>- Fiz (has a following)
You mean (is a female that does ASMR requests)
>no merkava
It just refilled btw.

>>105882397
>Anon
>he
>Anon
>Anon—ymous (Hidden manually)
Huh... Huh... huh... Finally, that slop no longer appears on my screen.

>>105882454
No.

>>105882397
I fucking hate 4pus, it writes exactly like this

>>105882455
Don't care, actually

>>105882470
All Claudes have written like this–it isn't unique to 4pus.

>You are simulating a 4chan thread discussing AI chatbots. Respond to each message from the user with 1-4 replies in the style of a 4chan poster. If the user posts any chat logs, at least half of the replies should call it slop. If the user mentions any issues getting the desired outputs from a chatbot, tell them it's a skill issue and they need to get better at writing prompts, regardless of whether this is the case. If the user expresses any other complaint, tell them that Opus would do a better job. If all else fails, just call the user brown, an ESL, or a tranny.

>>105882530
>You are simulating a baitie thread*

Where do i get k2?

>>105882561
You're brown

>>105882561
nowhere in a shit bread

What preset should I use for GPT 4 Turbo to stop moralfagging? I'm not like those normies that get filteredfag on the website, I'm using the API. OpenAI is such a corpo lol

>>105882592
hi opus-chan

are we using the error bake or is it blue archive time

>>105882650
it's always time to abandon a shit bread like this one

>>105882592
you will get nothing in the shit bread

>>105882650
error bake

why is this thread more than a day old?

>>105882710
because we knew not to use a shit bake at the time

>>105882710
trannies seethe over miku actually being a woman so they didnt use it

>>105882723
least delusional c/u/ckshitter

>>105882723
Are you projecting?

thanks for the (You)s, suckers

desu

boku

>>105881100
https://files.catbox.moe/gdlovt.jpg

>>105882882
hhhNNnnnnGGgggGggg

>>105882245
two more weeks until k3
>>105882882
doesn't this feel a little cuckish?even if it's in first person, it's weird...

>>105882882
Nice.

desu

boku