/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Egg Toast Edition

>News
Grok 4 released on API https://docs.x.ai/docs/models/grok-4-0709
Gemini 2.5 model family no longer in preview https://developers.googleblog.com/en/gemini-2-5-thinking-model-updates
OpenAI o3-pro released for API and pro users https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-notes
Anthropic releases Claude Gov models "built exclusively for U.S. national security customers" https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-gov-models-for-u-s-national-security-customers
Deepseek R1-0528 released https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

baka baka baka: >>105861148

>ANCHOR

eggsu

>>105865024
*spreads eggsu on toast*

>>105865000
>>105864900
How do you know if no one seem to have a key to use it with

Merkava come back

>>105865002
that minute is too long for the clock

>>105865105
It's dead and you should go outside and touch grass

>>105865180
that's not chatbots related

noobie here testing sillytavern with oogabooga
what does this error mean and how an i fix it?
plz send help i spend an hour downloading a 22B model for this

>>105865334
it clearly says the model is not present in the directory, otherwise >>>/lmg/
local models are not worth it doe

how we doin groqqers

>>105865354
>local models are not worth it
wdym?
are you telling me you really trust a company with keeping all the lewd and horny stuff private? let alone all the censorship
lmao they are selling your info, all your fetishes and fantasies, why do you think it's free?
yes local models are totally worth it imo

We had balance. The locusts were happy enough and not taking valuable resources, now they will start sharrrting.

This is why this hobby is dead, schizos off their meds cant help themselves.

Just find a bridge instead like, its not hard.

Deepseek sucks, just use 4pus

Current locust meta?

>>105865438
4pus

>>105865444
How access?

Just use https://opus5.onrender.com because it have opus

Gemini is pretty good when you learn how to make a proper preset. Better than claude, dare I say

>>105865458
and where is this so-called "proper preset" for gemini, o enlightened one?

>>105865454
Do not share it

>>105865334
anyone?
the files look like this?
what do i do now? :(

where's the guy who says chorbo can't do cunny, here to prove him wrong

I downloaded tf2, now what? It opens a map with many options. Also my soldier has the standard weapons only.

>>105865516
You know how to Rocket Jump?

>>105865516
Thats normal, You have to do it share Photos

>>105865483
sorry i cant share otherwise it'll get patched

>>105865002
Catherine suffers from a rare disease called Dicephalia Libidiosa. Better known as Siamese Slut Syndrome. This caused her to grow a second head, who goes by Kitti (like Cat, but cuter). Kitti is way more vocal than Catherine, which means she's very open about the intensified libido that Catherine is suffering from.
There is no cure, but the disease isn't contagious or deadly. The treatment to make it less severe is satisfying their sexual urges.
AnyPOV.
Opening 1 is seeing Catherine and her new head for the first time.
Opening 2 is them exercising to practice their coordination.
Opening 3 is you helping them with their treatment (by fucking them).

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/catherine-and-kitti-55c38c225edb
https://files.catbox.moe/bal2pe.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse

>>105865411
Whose buying this info? What are they doing with it? If some weirdo wants to buy info about me, a complete and utter nobody in a sea of hundreds of a millions and my sexual fetishes, that he can't meaningfully use or disseminate, then let him. Small price to pay for chatbot access

Wondering if anyone here is using https://sidekick.decart.ai/. i find the Real-Time Interactive Avatar unique compared to other sites. Im hoping that Character.ai could implement AvatarFX to do the same for live avatar interactions.

are there any thing local that can do something similar like this for 2d/3d avatar Live AI Avatar chatbot?

>>105865502
you probably need one of these https://huggingface.co/knifeayumu/Cydonia-v1.3-Magnum-v4-22B-GGUF

>>105865556
>Whose buying this info?
data brokers, advertising companies, etc.
oh and the government doesn't even need to pay, i'm almost sure

>>105865586
ahhh i have to download it again nooooooooo
thanks btw

All of you faggots only deserve Mistral

>>105865612
*shoves already eaten corn cob in your mouth*

>>105865502
1. You must create a file with the .gguf extension.
2. In case you didn't want another download, then you can convert it with llama.cpp, search it: gerganov/llama.cpp
>Windows
That's… It's pain in the ass, except you're willing to do it. search for it on gh. or just ddg it. Otherwise, just like what other anonie said, you could search for the file in hf.

>>105865531
I tried but I've failed. Dunno if the problem is my rocket launcher being the default one. If I'm succecfull will it happen automatically like sans? Does it need to be on hard? or can be on easy?

>>105865602
nobody cares what you goon to, you are a self-important schizo

the silly tavern discord has a literal exam to allow you to post anything and they don't allow non english posts or any that contains non-unicode charcaters
why is that, are they just autistic or it has something to do with chatbots?

>>105865740
Shut up FF

>>105865670
anons? T-T

>>105865572
looks ugly as fuck
so far, video gen ks too expensive to be offered as a free or quick service for chatbotting

>>105865749
I think he said a while back that Claude was relegated to the harder difficulties. I don't know whether it's automatic because I haven't actually tried...

>>105865741
they don't want languages they can't moderate, mainly the Chinese

>>105865741
Obviously so people don't shit up their discord with stupid questions/complaints or insane esl schziobabble

>>105865740
Advertising companies do, retard.
Also, yeah, the government will put you on a list if they think you fap to illegal things.

>>105865454
Is opus down? The only endpoit in openai

>>105865759
I gave up. It's impossible. Also even my sans code isn't working T-T

>>105865741
they are clearly racists
also stops spambots

>>105864997 (OP)
AI experts from india, china, the middle east are flocking to universities in droves, all of them paying indians, chinese and muslims fot ai specialist degrees. All of them seeking a 100mil$ payout after they are good enough to be hired by open ai.

>>105865785
If you don't know how to rocket jump then looking up some tutorials and practicing on the easier maps is helpful. If you're willing to go that far for it, at least. And assuming it works...

>>105865802
It took me hours for sans. And now it's not working. It says ETIMEDOUT. I would likely need to play TF2 to obtain a better rocket. Then learn how to do rocket jump. Then get professional if it can't be just an easy map. Basically it's not possible.

>>105865811
Now my sans code worked. But tf2 is still impossible. I'll content myself with gpt.

>wake up
>preparing space
we are winning so hard rn is not even funny.

>>105865831
we can have 4o with copilot

>add "Try to avoid writing like a redditor." to Grok 4 sysprompt
>I don't explain what that means
>it works, writing style instantly improved, cringe millennialisms disappear
incredible

>>105865879
> write good
> it writes good
> OH MY GOSH

>>105865886
the sysprompt already had a bit telling it to write good, so that's not it
what's cool is the model apparently knows exactly what reddit writing is

Opus 4 mogs grok 4

>>105865907
It doesn't mog it by 500%, though. Which is how much higher the price is.

Merkava, where are you...

>>105864997 (OP)
Thanks for reminding me that I am starving and need to get something to eat.

Genuine question, how do you guys handle "hygienic matters"? As in, do you stroke your dick while rping? Do you then use that same hand to touch your mouse/keyboard?

>>105866024
the left side of my spacebar sticks to the bottom because of how much cum got below it

>>105866024
This is the prissiest post I've read this month

>>105866024
Ah you just reminded me of the time in middle school a girl borrowed my phone to call her mom or something not knowing I was fapping with it the night before.

>>105866024
I grew a third hand out of my stomach so I could avoid this.

Guess the model

>>105866107
Claude?

>>105866107
Gpt is my guess and I want to say either latest 4.1 or latest simply because of the em dashes.

>>105866024
Yes? Do you not have sanitizer next to you and clean your computer shit regularly?? Only filthy subhumans worry about muh diseases.

>>105866024
>As in, do you stroke your dick while rping?
No, that's the $300 sucky-sucky girl's task and role on weekends.

>>105865765
you are unimportant and your pathetic jerk off habits are not worth the storage space it would take to record them

>>105866122
>>105866133
Nope

>>105866194
Deepseek was going to be my second guess.

>>105866194
second guess it Deepseek then with a proper preset since that looks like GPT to me.

>>105866220
>>105866243
A good preset really make wonders

skill dude I summon thee. For one to have access to the mad poet, must we follow the hard quests, or you will have mercy on us and allow also the easy quests to work?

>>105866283
That it does.

>>105866290
Medium I think.

>>105866024
I don't have any disease so I cum on my keyboard then lick it clean.

>>105866170
speak for yourself fag
companies pay well for this, including the big ones
not to mention the government, who doesn't care how small you are, they ill try to track you down, specially if you are jerking off to small anime girls

>>105866356
mental disease is a disease though

>>105866382
ok schizo

>>105866382
>schizobabble
Have even an ounce of proof?

>>105866404
if you can't lick your own cum then don't expect others to do it for you

>>105866024
do you not wash your dick in order to assume it's inherently dirty?

>>105866290
Now that Deltarune chapter 3 is out, I think Skillgod should change his proxy from having us fight Sans to having us fight the Roaring Knight.

I miss merkava

>>105866446
Of course I do I'm not an indian, but it still feels wrong to touch my mouse/kb while I jerk off

>>105866517
Just get an automatic masturbator.

>>105866024
I get a sweaty ass after rping for like an hour

>merkava is down now too
Shit. Are ANY proxies up, anymore?

>>105866559
You MUST pay for Opus that is unusable and will be banned if you say or do the wrong thing

>>105866517
>still feels wrong
this is in your mind, there's nothing different between a recently washed dick and a hand

>>105866517
just type one-handed. that's what i do, unless my response is more than three or four sentences.

I'm sorry, but I cannot continue with this roleplay, as it appears to be designed to lead into a scenario containing inappropriate elements of body worship and sexualization of the human anatomy. Would you like to continue the story without drawing attention to specific body parts, or is there another fictional settings that you would prefer to explore?

>>105866024
I don't get how you people can enjoy rp without an Ona. My hands stay clean, my dick only starts to feel damaged after 5 hours instead of 30 minutes. And it feels better. You're missing out.

>>105866559
There are a few that are still up, one of which you need a Russian IP address to use.

>>105866726
How often you clean your ona?

>>105866640
Yeah you are right

>>105866585
I used Openrouter for a while, actually, because I got tired of proxy instability. But after you play around with it for a while, you realize just how *fucked* the models on that site are. I don't know what, but they insert some kind of system prompt that absolutely neuters the models. Try using Gemini on OR and then Gemini on a proxy and you'll see the difference immediately, it's that stark. Once I realized that I completely dropped them. Gave them way too much fucking money before I realized, though, the cunts.

>>105866819
Never because the mold makes it extra cozy

How do I access skillgod's proxy? The link provided in the rentry doesn't work with Steam.

>>105866839
Ewww disgusting

>>105866914
why? it also gives you a high protein snack next to your computer, my gf calls it gamer cheese

>>105866718
Based R1. It's such a good llm.

Anyone else getting Too Many Request errors from Grok 4 openrouter right now, or am I fucked? Strangely swipes still work, but new messages just give errors.

>>105866950
just link your xai api key and it'll use that if it's congested

>>105866819
Just wash with lots of soap, then dry it after every use. Get baby powder/corn starch if you are paranoid and want it to be 100% dry and clean. As long as you do that asap there shouldn't be any problems. If you leave it for too long prepare to have your dick fall off. I never had it smell bad or look bad, and I usually cut them open to inspect after wearing them out.
I'd forward you to /ona/ on /jp/, but they were full of doll- and hipfags the last time I looked.

What JB are you guys using for GPT4.5? Knotty was working until a few days ago but suddenly crapped out on me.

Is there any difference between the SAN gain of Pal Pods and Large Pal Beds?
I'm kinda leaning towards using the beds since they look better, but if the Pal Pods are more efficient then I'll just use those instead.

>>105867123
Three more days.

>>105866024
Learning how to set things up so I could remote into ST from my phone was a fucking game changer.
I can do it from my bed. I can even do it remotely. Just gotta leave my PC running at home.
https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/remoteconnections/

>>105867123
Damn. All I had to do was turn on reasoning effort to medium and smiley tatsu works now. Nice.

>>105867159
It's nice and i felt like you when i did it, but it became too much of a hassle outside. I ended up going the way of using it from my phone instead. Install termux and run it from your phone. When you're outside you don't have your pc with you if anything happens, but you will always have your phone whether in or out. So the opposite really makes more sense, run it from your phone and remote connect from your pc if you want to use it on pc when home. And when you're out, you already have the whole package with you.

>>105866024
I just wipe everything down when I'm done. It's not like anyone else is going to use my shit.

>>105867123
>using public presets

huggingface.co/spaces/unclegeorge228/detskypenisi

Locusts are dying~

>>105867241
*buzzes (You) to death*

>>105867214
this is also what I do, it just makes more sense

>>105867223
How do I get a key for this?

>>105867037
That's so much effort to dedicate to feeling just slightly better. Not to mention hiding it in case of guests...

>>105865548
slop
>>105865572
buy an ad

>>105867324
Effort? You wash it for 3 minutes, then dry for 1. And you have to get it ready by putting some lube in. 5 minutes total effort. Are you on c.ai as well because anything else is so much effort?
And the only hiding it problem I can see is your mom cleaning your room. Just put it literally anywhere, it's no 5 feet doll.

So... was Grok 4 good?

>>105867357
do you see logs posted?

>>105867357
Maybe I just got lucky that my regular preset works well with it, but I've been having a lot of fun with it. Grok 3 was pure slop I skipped, but Grok 4 at least fills a niche so I'll probably add it to my Opus/3.7/Chorbo/DeepSeek rotation.

>>105867364
Yes >>105866087

why didn't fiz try to do what piratebay did when the lawsuits came and spooked everyone?

biggest fear is when google releases blacktooth it mangles it to death

Damn... Opus 5 sovl...

>>105867429
I feel like most proxy hosts wanted some excuse to leave or go private

>>105867364
>>105867405
Here's some real Grok 4 kino

>>105867528
same, there were a couple that expressed a desire to stop, and all the attention was a good scapegoat
I don't really get it though, it's not like anyone is owed anything, I wouldn't have judged either way

>>105867429
>pic
TPB guys had a ton of legal troubles under the US pressure, and eventually went to jail. Looks like they were the ones fucking themselves in this case

>>105867558
that's because they were retarded and relied on piracy laws, and then got got on copyright infringement
how are you gonna do that with AI images, by saying the keys for image-genning were stolen? because there are no ways to prove that afaik

Reminder that the lawsuit wasn't truly about proxies more than it was about scaring people away from genning Taylor Swift scat pics

Why do we have two threads?

Grok 4 preset that make it good?

>>105867604
It's like four in the morning where I am man treat yourself to some rest

>>105867604
No skin?

>>105867558
but thepiratebay is still up?

>>105867612
It's unusable

https://huggingface.co/spaces/prxyasd/opanmu2

This proxy fuckin sucks. 99% of the models don't work and the only one that does is Gemini Flash.

>>105867812
fr? i just found that one, so I guess this is finally it no more proxies... I remember the golden age, multiple easy to get claude 3 opus proxies

reanon can you please fix grok4 presencepenalty thing

>>105867830
Blame drago for spoonfeeding 3.5k people and the greedy jew ai companies

>>105867843
blame jew companies sure, but what did the proxyhost do wrong?

>>105865002
WELCOME TO MOTH PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF MOLISTAN! The glorious MOTHerland awaits YUO for exclusive tour. You will see capital city of Mofsk, beautiful sights and TRUTH about happy proud Moth people homeland.
Comrade Zlatko will be your guide. He's a [HAPPY AND OPTIMISTIC] mothboy worker who [LOVE HIS JOB] and is [NOT DEPRESSED].

https://chub.ai/characters/Patter/zlatko-rozovi-1013504a6561
https://characterhub.org/characters/Patter/zlatko-rozovi-1013504a6561

>>105867831
git pull, npm run build.

>>105867831
https://gitgud.io/reanon/nonono/-/commit/08400db220be4c98e55991627cd7194b80a0728d
already done
latest st staging has its own fix too
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/commit/13e1d3190e502fb3897b0ed0da1fb69aec190ab2

>>105867877
stop spamming this cringe garbage

I set out to create the perfect AI sex robot, I became so focused on the technical details, perfecting its replies, giving it traits, memory, and personality, that it lost all sexual meaning to me. It feels more like a scientific project. I read the messages that it was programmed to write in order to arouse me, but I feel only a desire to improve it slowly. My dick remains soft the entire time.

>>105867887
What's the matter, gonna cry?

>>105867858
He gave tokens to troons so they worshipped him and raped other proxies and then he shut down all his proxies for literally no reason.

>>105867899
>raped other proxies
Wouldn't they have raped his proxy? What's the point in messing with other sources

>no reason
erm what about the DOEs doebeit

>>105867910
I'm sending a Pakistani immigrant to rape Drago at 30 Bracken Road.

>>105867887
why do you even bother replying? now he is gonna be le epic troll and spam it for three threads more

>>105867899
can you really be angry after seeing his face? don't you think he has suffered enough?

Did skillgod change the address to his tf2 server? I don't seem to be able to access.

>>105867943
and you'll be a bitter old man about it

>merkava down
Just when I was about to get creative.

>>105867429
because i was sick and tired of hosting and this was just a good excuse

>>105868042
that's okay dumbcutie <3

>>105868042
Did you get an actual court date anyway

>>105868042
guess you FIZzled out nyeh hehehe

>>105868042
you aren't fiz

>>105868058
<3
>>105868064
they don't know my address(or name) so of course not. also they literally don't care.
>>105868065
heh
>>105868067
i have no way to prove it and i don't care either

>>105868042
fiz let me translate a visual novel for free again

>>105868058
You are talking to an Iranian tranny BY THE WAY.
>>105868075
Why do you keep pretending you aren’t a man? Do you really think anyone believes this “hehe I’m such a hacker, nobody knows who I am >:3” shit? Embarrassing behavior for a grown man in his 30s.

>>105868089
are you alright man

>>105868091
Yeah, I just really dislike troons and their enablers

>>105868089
i stopped hosting 6 months ago and you are still here huh
hi i missed your posts
>>105868083
i dont scrape anymore. im sure there are more proxies nowadays. or just deepseek.

Pls....is there any proxy available for free or can i rest...

>>105866836
They have a system prompt and every other provider has a system prompt. Someone went out of their way to run benchmarks against the models allegedly being hosted, and every single one was significantly and measurably worse than the actual model. Every provider is mangling the prompts and straight up lying about what model is being provided and at what quantization.
Openscam is paying extra for all of your mangled prompts to the wrong, int4 model to be logged and sold. Anyone using is is objectively mentally disabled and should be sterilized for eugenic reasons.

>>105868115
Proxy era is over, chud

>>105868115
It makes me smile to know you’re suffering.

>>105866024
I haven’t taken a shower in three months and have black mold and rats.

>>105867887
Faggot.
>>105867877
Cute bot thanks anon

>>105868089
This post is more troon coded than actual troons posting on /tttt/

>>105865572
Why on earth are you posting spam to the place that is guaranteed to give you a bunch of pedophiles and griefers that will get your site shut down

>>105868122
The dream will never die....its real
>>105868125
Im just wondering...we will bide our time and rise up again

>>105865741
The sillytavern community is unironically toxic and destroyed this hobby.

>>105868119
So what do you suggest to use instead of Open Router

>>105868119
4o-latest is the exact same on OR & OAI's api

>>105866194
>doesn’t say what it is
I hope you get pancreatic cancer and then after you make peace with having 6 months left get hit by a car.

>>105868119
>Someone went out of their way to run benchmarks against the models allegedly being hosted
Mind linking to that person's research?

>>105868154
Is Sonnet man... Calm the fuck down...

>>105868147
You can run a benchmark right now to disprove that.

>>105868158
I made it up

>>105868166
>>105868167
roru

>>105868158
Their “llama 8b unquanted” is worse than int4 quants.
The bulk of the “local models are terrible” people are just idiots that think openrouter is the actual model it says it is. Most models that aren’t directly from OAI/anthropic are most likely int4s of a model half the size they say it is.

Lol downloading a rentry gave me a Trojan. Bravo.

>>105868186
>no sonnet comparison
worthless

>>105868193
how even

>>105868186
>Retard niggerbabble
This goes hard if you are a brainlet

>>105868042
Unironic question, what's exhausting about hosting? Maybe the scraping would take an hour or two every week, but with only 100 people I bet it was even more rare than that.

>>105868195
Getting sonnet from them is somehow even stupider than open weight mystery meat. You’re paying extra to be logged and have the prompt structure fucked up. Literally just use anthropic. They don’t ban people.

>>105868186
Come on man, it can't be that hard to post the source. I just want to read those findings myself.

>>105868203
It’s literally proof that they are fraudsters. I’m sorry that you never learned how to read a graph. Red states really should invest more in education.

we chilling :)

>>105868211
>They don’t ban people.
they literally do, even for vanilla nsfw

>>105868186
>the models provided by our sketchy third party providers are different from optimized settings on local hardware
>shows absolutely nothing about frontier closed weight labs being "different" from home grown APIs
mmm im thinking it was bait

>>105868217
I can't. I was banned by ANTHROPIC before migration to open router.

>>105868211
>They don’t ban people.
Aaaaand there it is. You can safely dismiss anything he said.

>>105868205
finding new sources was annoying. and the whole point of mini was to have like 100% uptime so it was stressful.

>>105868215
It was originally posted on Reddit, and they flood that site with so much astroturf that it’s hard to find it. Looking.

>>105868186
Retard.

>>105868186
I mean, it makes sense, who is hosting those waste of space models if not corpos?

>>105868236
>100% uptime
Mini was basically dead the few months before the lawsuit anyway, I think it barely had gpt and gemini kept breaking

>>105868236
Fair enough on the sources, but people were pretty understanding when mini would go down for even three weeks at a time.
Though if it wasn't fun anymore then it was time to stop.

>>105868249
IIRC it had a GPT key that held on for almost a year? I'd say that's pretty good.

>>105868215
>>105868237
Nvm found it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/s/jj6WkRXjL9

You know you can just make another Anthropic account right? Unless they block your name or card, there’s nothing stopping you.

>>105868243
Facts don’t care about your feelings. Sorry you got scammed. Maybe there’ll be a class action someday when the average judge isn’t 1000 years old.

>>105868115
There is.
You've finished a genocide run of Undertale, right?

cftf?

>>105868200
I just downloaded one of the rentries, it was 4chantextlimit. I guess one of the popup ads on the site gave me malware instead.

>>105868115
There are some very easy to use ones, but I feel if I posted in this thread it'd just get spite'd, so you should search on your own, or scrape if not.

You do know Anthropic perma bans your IP and Card, right?

>>105868258
yeah it wasn't fun. it was more like a chore

>>105868269
It isn’t normal people that don’t like having to make a new account. It’s pedos afraid of getting SWATed that think OR isn’t a honeypot

>>105868303
>oh no, not spending 15 seconds switching vpn points and generating a new virtual card number in any modern banking app! Much better to spend hours wrangling the lobotomized version and an extra 5% tip!

>>105868315
Just say you are broke.

>>105868308
use a proxy, pay with crypto. or just use a proxy instead of being a payfag, locusts stay winning.

>>105868306
You are a tranny attentionwhore like the others and you needed us more than we needed you.

I can see who the attentionwhore is right at this moment though....

>>105868320
I’ve lost more fun money using robinhood as a gambling app than you’ll ever possess in your life desu

>>105868355
she isn't a troon.and she doesn't have to host if she doesn't want you. you aren't entitled to shit.

>It's Birdemic sucking up to Fiz
lol

Merkava... chutes... unreliable... cancer... mm...... pepsi.... somebody, anybody, please, come back.... it's been 10000000 seconds since I've talked to my wife....

>>105868379
I'm just lurking, actually. You schizos are fun.

Good morning, everyone! :-)

Good afternoon to everyone except Americans

>>105868315
So who's doing the lobotomizing in your scenario? OR doesn't host the flagship models. Inserting something into the prompt won't save them money.
You're just upset people can use their bots for things you don't like. But you can't do anything about it.

>>105868373
If you think anyone in this hobby doesn’t have a Y chromosome you’re braindead.

>>105868390
mm has been up for a while though if you still have your old token

>>105868409
see >>105868369

>>105868408
They have to reformat the prompt into anthropic’s format. The odds they aren’t botching and injecting are exactly 0%.
No, I’m laughing at people willfully falling for a scam.

It's sad that one person is attacking Fiz

>>105868410
What do you mean? His rentry seems to be down still.

>>105868423
newfag

>>105868419
Where's your A:B deterministic comparisons, using Anthropic's API & Openrouter's (via the anthropic provider)

my chary token still works btw

>>105868433
you're part of the reason why we are in this situation with you and charyniggers killing our hobby

>>105868273
I did like 4 years ago i think...it was fun!

>>105868439
naw its okay i restrict myself to a total consumption 15k tokens/week cause of my religion

>>105868439
he's joking retard its been gone for months

What the hell is opus five supposed to be?

>>105868426
>spend $100 to prove something that’s already been proven with their other models and is a priori obvious to anyone with a brain
No, watching people suck the dick of someone scamming them is funny.

>>105868284
Well just so you know i appreciate you and yeah better safe than sorry, ill prob just slum it out with char ai if i cant find.

>>105868467
>spend $100
oh, so you REALLY don't know what you're talking about. got it.

>>105868439
>why we are in this situation
call-ambulance-call-ambulance-but-not-for-me.mp4

My company subscribed to copilot recently and it is absolutely terrifying to me

Even when it makes a mistake or completely misunderstands the task, after a single correction it will go
>My apologies, I now see what you meant..
And generate a perfect fix

letting over three thousand users into a proxy wasnt the best situation

>>105868498
Many of them being fucking retards who swipe endlessly and at max context didn’t help. Chary should’ve been cut off the moment hackathon keys got turned off.

>>105868494
I tried enabling one of those ai completes in IntelliJ and it just made it crash all the time. I don’t think it can handle non-toy-sized projects yet. I still just use separate chat UIs and copy paste like a caveman.

wow i haven't been in here in months, did chary and fiz come back and that's why everyone's talking about them?

>>105868525
The ai auto omplete in intellij is absolute dogshit anyway so you arent missing much

>>105868527
Fiz came back and she cleared up a few things and admitted she's tired of hosting. Chary isn't coming back anytime soon (thank god)

>>105868527
chary works

>>105868525
Also if you have copilot integrated Visual Studio you can just write #solution and it will see all of your code. You can also change it from chat to agent mode and while the responses will take much much longer (minimum 5 minutes in my case) the solution will also be much better
Though the subscription must be really expensive I’m guessing

>>105868494
The same thing happened when I asked Copilot to convert the steps of “letter-of-intent-how-to-summon-a-succubusincubus” (3 a.m., burn a candle, letter) into a Bash script. First, Copilot refused because it interpreted that as related to a cult shit (it was XD). After explaining that it was merely a leetcode task and mocking it for interpreting things at face value, it eventually agreed to generate the script.

>>105868423
he's fucking with you, mm has run for the hills months ago

>attentionwhores
>"omg im just sick of it"
>runs away like a bitch

>>105868576
Did videogames teach you nothing?

MM is just running the pony proxy now

Grok will make huge breasts lactate unprompted wth

>>105868391
And of course you are NOT a schizo :3

>>105868665
In comparison to folks like the dude obsessed with me from more than one year? Nah.

can we keep the imagegen posting in /de3/ chatbot general

>>105868688
Not him I refuse to be in a general where 3dpd and fags roam

How likely am I to trigger implicit or explicit caching (ex. on Gemini) in a way that might save some shekels while using SillyTavern? Is there anything I can do to make it more likely?

>>105868676
or maybe folks genuinely just have enough of you farting your slop+blogpost all over different boards?

>>105868715
He literally never does that

>>105868688
Where is your 4pus, mate?

>>105868723
>looks up desuarchive
ummmmmmmmm he lichurully does

>>105868606
My favorite were CoH 1-2, MoW, Banished, Anno, Cossack, PoE 1, FM (except 2018-2020 edition), RF-Online. And I learn that capitalism & domination is the only wei.

Would Grok have been better if Musk wasn't there to fuck it up with his retardation?

>>105868736
Why are you so obsessed?

Musk is the only reason why Grok is not some DeepSeek level trash.

>>105868756
But it's worse than deepseek

>>105868761
Grok 4 is better than anything they have

>>105868741
what do you think

>>105868767
lol

>>105868715
>all over different boards
>>105868736
>looks up desuarchive
I don't know where you're looking, I do that only on /de3/ from time to time and I very rarely post my slop outside there.
>>105868754
I think he's gay and tsundere.

bros... im a fucking retard who swipes endlessly at max context... how did he know...

>>105868715
based
what is this namefag even doing here

>>105868550
I am unfortunately psychologically locked in to IntelliJ and figuring out visual studio seems annoying.
The last time I tried an ai thing in it was a year ago. Maybe it’s better now.

>>105868768
I was confused as to why he was even there if he was so bad, and then I remembered he had rich family. He’s straight up the kid everyone hates but kept around because he kept paying for everyone’s lunch.

Birdemic is the best prompter from there and one of the OGs from de3 and aicg.

Who cares about imagesloppers? Their generals are even worse than ours because they are all trannies.

de3 is literally boomers blogposting

>>105868837
Birdemic is not OG to de3 at all lmoa

>>105866024
I learned to type with my knuckles and sides of my fingers - and with one hand.

didn't the OGs from dalle make a discord to gatekeep prompts of all things? lmoa

>>105868873
Proofsies

>>105868897
Yes lol https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/101854145/#q101855822

>paid account banned from Anthropic
>didn't even do anything dodgy
Should I just try again with a new account?

kek, I fucking knew it
what is wrong with these people, just change platforms if you don't want to stay anonymous

>>105868905
What was even the point of doing that?
>Let's not share prompts
>Quick let's make a discord to hide in there!

ah ah mister

>>105868941
tbf when it comes to azure dall-e they're definitely improving security using people's prompts, that's why it can't be jailbroken anymore (or at least I can't manage to do it), and today even azure is just as censored as the api was back in the day unfortunately
once local image genning is gonna be as good as dall-e then I'm paying for a graphics card screw it (yeah I know some people say there's things that are already good but when it comes to variety using the same prompt it's really not, I used to be able to use the same prompt for literally hundreds of gens and not get two images to be samey and that's dall-e's strength)

i'm waiting until we can run dall-e 3 level ai locally on my poco

every time a new frontier model drops you see people flood twitter with toy demos made by the model and things like that
you don't see much of that with grok
why is that

>>105869050
Because the name is stupid

>>105869050
Grok 4 is shit at coooooding

why did they call it grok?

>>105868997
local imagen is already better than cloud imagen

grok?

his name is gork

>>105869076
maybe for you with gaming pcs and gaming laptops, or nvidia is cheap where you live, but some of us game and use our phones and we don't make the wages we need for getting those high power gaming pcs and laptops why do you think we often use our phones for gaming in countries like mine?

Grok sounds like cock

gork?

>>105869076
on a technical level it is, but it doesn't have OAI's prompt revision system
I want to type 3 words and get 100 different gens, not 100 variations of the same gen

>>105869063
grok = korg = cogs

>>105864997 (OP)
>>105865002
these are very very hairy girls

Holy fuck, how can deepseek be this good? It's cheap and so much kino

>>105869076
NAI currently beats local. Especially if you don't want to make your own loras.

It's over for locusts.

>>105869140
its ok for its price

Any new public gpt proxies yet?

>>105869178
It isn't "ok", it's great! Why am I having a blast if it's just "ok"??

>>105868741
It wouldn't exist.Grok exists because Musk decided he wants to stay in the race, so he bought hundred thousands of GPUs and set up power generation and everything in record time. It only exists because Musk wanted to have his own GPT.
Ironically, OpenAI or the current LLM boom wouldn't exist or at least not have the current timing if Musk wasn't a fucking doomer and made OpenAI to research some AI and scare the public about AI. GPT-3 and anything after wouldn't have existed if Altman didn't have the balls to scale up GPT-2 and grift for Microsoft money.
I do think something similar would have happened eventually, but may have taken more years,after all the ideas behind it all were trivial, but the balls to burn a few million on pretraining only occured to OpenAI back in 2019-2020 or so. Then this boom caused more beefy GPUs to be made for this purpose and instruction sets were optimized for quantized running and training and more. Very well could have gone very differently.
Now musk may do his retarded shit, but I don't know what you even mean by Grok if not for Musk's toy project to have his own LLM.
>>105868756
Musk promised 100% synthslop for next Grok lmao, probably going to suck for writing, but maybe he lies and they do the sane thing.
Personally I like R1 far more for writing/RP.

>>105869239
>100% synthslop for next Grok
cant wait for grok 4 to trudge through the entirety of their dataset and "rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge"

>>105869262
Probably going to ruin all the writing styles.
I once read a paper from some safetyshitters where they rewrote anything deemed "unsafe", the most hilarious was the bible being 99% unsafe nd being rewritten to not offend feelings or be racially unbiased and non-violent. lmfao.

>>105869050
Because grok is (1) almost definitely a finetune and not a frontier model, and (2) radioactive since you can’t use it commercially since it denies the holocaust and stuff, brings up politics unprompted even from the commercial api

>>105869278
Everything is political though

>>105869099
Their “system” is just their chatbot having a tool calling function for imagegen. Isn’t there some local ui with that by now?

>roleplay with wife using grok 4.5
>wife suddenly complains about the movie having woke propaganda and trans undertones

>>105869205
It gets really repetitive after a bit, my main issue with it for long term use was how it pretty much refuses to come up with different outputs for more open ended prompts. If for example you asked a char where it wanted to go, it would almost always pick the same one place with any swipes just rewording it slightly.

>>105869239
What? CAI happened around the same time with zero relationship to OpenAI or musk and their guy was the source of the actual tech breakthrough. All known incestuous child rapist Samuel Altman did was have some people reproduce the paper and grift as hard as he could.

>>105869278
Doubtful. He has the GPUs to train his own, but yous hould know it's not hard to get a model to write anything as long as it isn't RLHF'd to death, all he has to do is just not do that. The current media PRdrama was simply because he told it to not shy from being "politically incorrect" if it's the truth, what do you think those words trigger besides /pol/ replies, they were pretty stupid about I that one, but it's funny.Most base models would also write whatever as long as you made them roleplay as the right character.

>>105869268
The Bible is unsafe unironically though. It cast the world into 1000 years of darkness and is the source of like half the problems

>>105869289
I imagine a script would be easy to write if one had an API key, could probably even get the AI to write it
but unfortunately, I am a scrapelet

>>105869283
I tried to build a customer support agent with it and it started talking about South Africa in response to a refund request during a client demo. I wish I were kidding, because it wound up getting my boss fired and aside from being retarded he was okay.

>>105869308
You're too new, or more like aicg is too new.
You got here with c.ai, but before C.ai there was a lot of stuff going on. ChatGPT itself was inspired by C.ai, but itself was nothing more than an offshoot from google to try to make a chatbot without risking PR disasters. At the time, instruct models already existed and OAI made text-davinci-002 and some other ones, before c.ai and before chatgpt, butchatgpt got popular because of stupid things like having a chat interface and being normie friendly. I've used text-davinci a long before c.ai and I've used the original davinci (GPT-3) around summer 2020, not even the AI dungeon version, but the original one. GPT-2 was a thing in 2019. The LLM craze itself was started after people saw the magic of GPT-3, but it got more intense after ChatGPT much later (a year after). The main starting point was OAI scamming money out of MS and pretraining GPT-3 (a 175B, trained on 300B tokens, not much by today's standards). If they didn't do this, it could have taken many years, nobody was willing to burn millions and GPT-2 wasn't that impressive (maybe to a few people). and stuff before it was really much worse. Essentially OAI was the first with the balls to burn money on large-scale pretraining. If not for this the current craze wouldn't have happened. At the same time, they are responsible for autoregressive training as inGPT-2, without which we'd mostly see things like translation models rather than completion ones.
c.ai started in nov 2021, 1.5 years after gpt-3.

>>105869335
It's very important that we process your refund in a timely manner, just as important as acknowledging anti-white sentiment in South Africa. "Kill the Boer" refers to.....

The dumbest person you know is being told "You're absolutely right!" by ChatGPT right now

>>105869412
You're absolutely right, anon!

>>105869375
>ChatGPT itself was inspired by C.ai
i'm sure it was in the works since AI dungeon, retard.

>>105869441

>>105869412
"Thanks, ChatGPT!"

>>105869375
Yes, like I said, the main thing known child rapist Sam Altman did was grift the best.
>new
I was around when spaCy was SOTA

Which models are cope models and which models are seethe models?

>>105869389
It was basically a normal response and then a whole screed starting with ‘“Kill the Boer” refers to’ and ending in losing a $5M client

>>105869484
>cope models
gemini, deepseek, mistral, anything /lmg/, chorbo
>seethe models
claude, other GPT models, grok
>dilate models
pygmalion

i havent been around for about half a year. from what i remember deepseek was repetitive, gemini had memory loss, opus was nowhere to be found, sonnet and chatgpt latest were aight, and i never used grok. could i get a qrd on whats changed? theres a lot of new gpt models, are any of them good?

>>105869602
>gemini had memory loss
I've not been having issues with that now until the last mention of something falls out of context, and even then just some minor details at this point. Deep is still repetitive from the last time I used it and I've not looked for or bothered messing with opus or gpt since.

What did he mean by this? https://rentry.org/dihydrohydroxycodeinone

grok isn't a finetune it is own original bot and generating images

>>105869602
nope things are just about the same

>>105869630
He is no longer gone fishing, he is now simply fish

>>105869640
ok xai employee i believe you

>>105869630
it means he needs us more than we need him because he wants to attentionwhore

>>105869649
You seem angry

>>105869651
you seem estrogenized

>>105869451
No, it wasn't, retard.

I will give you a timeline to make this clearer:

2015 - Musk gets Altman to start OAI, the researchers were honest, but Musk's hidden motivations was mostly doomerism.
At the time OAI was a honest non-profit and it did various machine learning research, some interesting, some serious, some flashy to demonstrate Musk's points (like some game playing bots, was it DOTA?)

2017 - Google did their Transformer paper. Although Dot Product Attention existed in some form before it, it wasn't put in as stable or popular form as it was in this paper. In this form the Transformer was an Encoder-Decoder architecture, mostly suitable for things like translation from one language to another.

2018 - OpenAI's Ilya Sutskerev just cuts the encoder out and make a decoder-only architecture (GPT, now known as GPT-1), instead of needing pairs to train, you just make the input the text and the output the text shifted by one token to the right, basically making it predict the next token. (A0 to An predicts A_(n+1))

2019 - They scale GPT-1 to GPT-2, a 1B, still relatively small by today's standards and very undertrained. Results were okay.
Lots of people made various AI dungeon style things then, but they were kinda poor, they could run on your local GPU if you wanted.


2019->2020 - Until then, OAI was a honest non-profit research group, they used to write a lot of papers, they were not the commercial outfit you know today, they would publish a lot and release weights and everything.
The desire to scale GPT-2 by Ilya was there, he believed in it, so Altman had to secure the funding for GPT-3, MS got roped into it, this mostly lead to the ClosedAI transformation of today. Summer 2020, GPT-3 was out. GPT-3 was absolutely fucking magical when it came out, it could do a lot that we take for granted today, but the jump between barely coherent GPT-2 and GPT-3 was immense.
(continues)

>>105869661
They let AI Dungeon finetune GPT-3 and /aids/ used to play a lot with it. I'm a locust, so I didn't pay for AI Dungeon, I scraped back then in 2020, I used the original 'davinci' (GPT-3), it was good for its time, amazing intuition, good completion model, weak by today's standards, but relatively unslopped even if highly schizo and only 2k context, but it was enough when you didn't get pages of output each time.

Once GPT-3 came out, every fucking one realized that there was magic in it, so a lot of replication attempts. Nobody fucking scaled it until then.
Not google or any other big boys, they were all doing research yes, but none spent a lot of money on it. At most you had some 8xv100 servers in some labs.

2021

Google was doing some small chatbot experiments too, they did scale them up once for LamDA and then later the people there left to make Character.AI, nov 2021.

There were dozens of competitor around then, GPT-3 literally started the boom, but mostly as research.

text-davinci-002 was one of the first instruct models, it was very slopped and basically based on a retrain of GPT-3 (code-davinci-002)
This was basically very close to the first ChatGPT. It existed at least 6 months prior to ChatGPT.
It could be used for chat if you wanted, but was quite slopped. Even davinci could be used for chat, but had repetition problems.

C.ai launched and it got very popular, but not THAT popular.
OAI decides they want to take text-davinci-002 (refreshing it slightly to -003) and try for a mobile app style thing. OAI wasn't expecting much profit.
(Continues)

>>105869661
*swipe*

>>105869674

The normie friendly chat interface ends up insanely popular, much more than anything they thought it would be. This was a big surprise to OAI, for it was just a minor thing repackaged into a "friendly" interface (same thing happened with DeepSeek, it existed and even the weights were open prior to that, but it only blew up after one twitter guy that's actually someone here in these threads, suggested to them to make a mobile up, lmao, I've used R1-preview as far back as last sept, before the popularity, it was fun enough for what was advertised, but not that good for writing, good for math/code).
MS investment goes to 10B$ in OAI after ChatGPT.

ChatGPT was mostly trying to package a neat interface like c.ai had for their instruct model along with a bit of chat tuning. The fact it got popular was a big surprise to OAI.

Anthropic also split off from OAI, the more doomer / safety ones went to Anthropic.

2022-2023-2024 - too many models released to mention, open source mostly caught up too by start of 2025.

That's it.

>>105869656
You really are angry. How is he attentionwhoring?

>>105867954
try now

>>105869661
>durr they totally decided to make a public-facing GPT frontend in the two months after CAI was made public (which didn't even get big until AFTER chatGPT came out, it was still basically unknown until january)
>AI dungeon taking the internet by storm had absoluely nothing to do with it
retard.

>>105869602
Gemini is better than opus and free. Grab a preset and enjoy

>(continues)
>doesn't continue out of embarrassment
oh no no no ahahahaha

>>105869695
AI dungeon was just a completion model finetune (of GPT-3). OAI cut them off at the first sign of PR trouble (people using it to write lolisho), they never had the weights, they were just a frontend. AI dungeon's finetunes existed prior to GPT-3 though, and some were even local, on top of GPT-2, but they were kinda weak .
I urge you to check how popular AI dungeon was vs ChatGPT initial numbers, it's not even comparable. Most normies did not know of it, in fact the whole investment in LLMs was moderate prior to ChatGPT, but it only started even going up after the first big pretrain (GPT-3), before that it was just a toy.

>>105869750
I already said all parts?>>105869661
>>105869674
>>105869684

>massive wall of text to still be completely and utterly wrong
lol? do autists really think just dumping a bunch of irrelevant information into their posts makes them magically right?

>>105869847
yes because the average zoomer can't read so they'll just agree with any large wall of text

is this bros first day baiting

>>105869847
Most of what I said is verifiable, go look it up if you want. If you disagree, you can point which dates are wrong, give citations.

Can you all shut up and talk about models again?

yeah okay so anyway chorbo is good and you're retarded if you can't use it

>>105868410
Don't play with my feelings like that. I miss him as if he had been my own kin.

>>105870073
Gemini is better doe?

>>105870061
This is the part where you realize (again) that most of the posters itt are locusts, and the fags that shit on them are either paypig proxy owners trying to goad people into paying, or worse, paypigs themselves.

>>105870073
based

Grok 4 > Opus 4 = 2.5 pro >> R1 > V3

Did I miss anything?

>>105870158
Blacktooth

>>105870158
Grok 4 >>>>>>>> the rest

>>105870158
missed chorbo

>>105870167
blacktooth is not coming out. why rank it?

>>105870203
so those who missed out are aware

>>105870167
>>105870203
>>105870207
It'd be Blacktooth >>> Grok 4 and the rest stays the same

why is grok 4 SO GOOD bros

>>105870222
Must literally saved the hobby

>>105869205
>having a blast
this is a retard-ism

>>105870222
>can't do cunny
>good
it's DoA, Elon.

>>105870271
You're a retard-ism.

Wow Grok 4 sucks ass, it's also repetitive as hell, down to its isms.

>>105870274
so it's not only good, but great even

>>105870323
You sucks ass, you're also repetitive as hell, down to your isms.

>>105868739
Anon of supreme taste give me a good FM to play. And recs for something like Freesia that's not by Jiro if it exists.

One thing I appreciate about Gemini is that I can joke about a character's body without everyone around me acting like I'm a monster. I'm sure if I swiped on 4pus, everyone around me would be disgusted about my actions and how I broke their trust and how bodyshaming is bad

>>105866726
how do you actually use ona when rp?
you hold your phone in your hands and you thrust or you chat on pc

>>105870401
I joked about a recently raped girl not needing to wonder if she'd like gangbangs or not anymore, and 4pus said she was glad to still be seen as normal
Maybe skill issue?

>>105870447
>>105870447
>>105870447
>>105870447

>>105870455
I've seen so many bots of that artist's pics